Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Jürgen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 3. April 2012 22:22 schrieb Samuel Klein sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu: I would like to add another option: Who not merge all projects into Wikipedia proper? The lack in participation in the sister projects is largely due to the fact that hardly anyone knows about them. Wikipedia is the only Wikimedia brand people know of. That is because there has been no serious attempt to promote/visibilize the other brands. I think all the sister projects should be displayed at the top of the site like the Google products in their new black bar. Also, the Wikimedia brand / logo should not be hidden at the bottom of the footer in every page! I made some suggestions about this some time ago: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-December/063014.html If the sister projects were living in their own namespaces within Wikipedia this would be different. Maybe... or maybe they will be namespaces that hardly anyone knows about because no one linked them in visible places. And the In the news section of the Main Page of Wikipedia should be a Wikinews one. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikisource-l] Fwd: ACTA analysis?
So.. There is a wiki page about this? [[Wikipedia:ACTA_initiative]] ?? What about the TPP? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trans-Pacific_Strategic_Economic_Partnership_Agreement https://www.eff.org/pages/trans-pacific-partnership-agreement -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia domains at GoDaddy
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Also, Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA (the title of their press release) implies they did before, doesn't it? Firmly: We contacted GoDaddy for comment. A spokesman declined to comment on the boycott specifically, but reiterated the firm's support for the legislation. Update (6:18 PM): GoDaddy seems unimpressed by the boycott so far. They made the following statement to Ars Technica: Go Daddy has received some emails that appear to stem from the boycott prompt, but we have not seen any impact to our business. We understand there are many differing opinions on the SOPA regulations. Update (December 23): Barely 24 hours after the boycott started, GoDaddy now says it has dropped its support for SOPA. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/12/godaddy-faces-december-29-boycott-over-sopa-support.ars -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter
All this discussion is useless. The image filter is a violation of the mission of the Wikimedia Foundation. The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empower and engage people around the world to collect and develop educational content under a free license or in the public domain, and to disseminate it effectively and globally. If the editors of a project put an image in an article is because the image is relevant/educational/illustrative and therefore is content that the Foundation must disseminate effectively and globally. freely share in the sum of all knowledge remember? -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Possible solution for image filter
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: Thoughts? I am against anything that validates the image filter. I still believe that the filter is against the mission of the foundation. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter - Gender?
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: I'm always interested in demographics and culture specifics when it comes to surveys, etc. We should have a WikiSurveys project. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] IRC office hours with Sue Gardner, Thursday, September 22, 2011 at 17:00 UTC
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: Greetings all, I just wanted to announce that there will be an office hours with Sue Gardner in #wikimedia-office Thursday, September 22, 2011 at 17:00 UTC. The office hours always confuses me. You should put a countdown on the office hours page. Maybe this? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Countdown -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Forkability, its problems and our problems
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: 2011/8/17 David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com: Notability is not an absolute criteria. There are thousands of subjects/articles which could be notable with different criterias. What is happening is not one big fork, but many specialized forks based on just such changes in emphasis. This is what I wanted to address with my proposal in StrategyWiki... 2 years ago: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Recognize_that_Wikipedia_is_more_than_an_encyclopedia_and_fork_it -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] On curiosity, cats and scapegoats
Can anyone explain me how this Image Filter is not against the mission of the Wikimedia Foundation? Letting some users to block Wikipedia content is NOT a good way to disseminate it effectively and globally as stated in the mission statement. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Mission_statement -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Hypothetical project rebranding Wikimedia
You can't rebrand what never was properly branded. Let me say it again: Wikimedia is a Great Brand, the problem is that it was never promoted properly. In fact, the brand / logo is hidden at the bottom of the footer in every page! I'm still waiting for your feedback in my ideas for the Wikimedia brand: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-December/063014.html -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Hypothetical project rebranding Wikimedia
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello, you can make Wikimedia as famous as Wikipedia, but it will cost you many millions of dollars. And why should you? I doubt that the redesign I propose would be so expensive. I'm basically asking to put the logo of Wikimedia somewhere more visible and having Wikimedia accounts. We don't need to hire designers for that. Did you read my proposal? :-/ -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced
I think that having this kind of Image Filter is against the mission of the Wikimedia Foundation and a claudication of the WMF in favor of interests of others. Letting some users to block Wikipedia content is NOT a good way to disseminate it effectively and globally. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Mission_statement Allowing this type of self censorship is imposing a point of view. It's a waste of time and resources to support the POV that certain content should be censored. Is opening the door to censorship and to give ammunition to enemies of knowledge and freedom. The users of Wikimedia projects should see The Sum of Human Knowledge and not just the knowledge that I like. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] The systematic and codified bias against non-Western articles on Wikinews
The In the news section in the main page of Wikipedia should be a Wikinews one. Once I meet a teacher of a journalism school. He was interested in using es.wikinews with their students. I could not recommend them to use Wikinews, because the rules and bureaucracy of Wikinoticias would have been a nightmare for them. On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: non-Western topics: see http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:Chile Chile non-western? Fixed! http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chilediff=prevoldid=448703219 -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Fajro fai...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Hydriz Wikipedia ad...@wikisorg.tk wrote: No, they don't share the same Recent Changes. It is separated now. Found it! Still too complicated. Four clicks and writing the iso code. The link from the test-wiki should direct to the proper recent changes. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey
8. All the test wikis share one single Recent Changes page. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Hydriz Wikipedia ad...@wikisorg.tk wrote: No, they don't share the same Recent Changes. It is separated now. Where? http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Merge wikis
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:52 PM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I find irritating and complex about our structure is the proliferation of small wikis. Now I've no objection to the idea that we have a wiki for every language on Earth, though where languages are mutually intelligible such as the major dialects of English it seems sensible to me that we combine them in one wiki - if necessary with spelling and alphabet being subject to user preference. But I see no reason why ten wiki, Strategy and the various wikimanias each need their own wiki as opposed to being projects within meta. I second that. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Merge wikis
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@googlemail.com wrote: About the sister projects such as Wiktionary and Wikisource: there is ALS.WP doing that already, maybe knowing that it would be hard to create thoses sister projects in ALS (Alemannic). In general I would like to see more bounds between the sisters, including Wikipedia. We had that discussion with regard to a rebranding, going under the name of Wikipedia only and have a Wikipedia Foundation, a Wikipedia dictionary (Wiktionary), a Wikipedia Text Books (Wikibooks) and so on. I don't second that. Also we need to consolidate the brand Wikimedia. I wrote in this list about that and made some mockups but had no feedback.[0] :( [0] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-December/063014.html ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for referendum
This remind me of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbi2i_Y7gSE and http://www.thefilterbubble.com/ I don't like filter bubbles. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for referendum
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:28 PM, onthebrinkandfall...@aol.com wrote: What am I misunderstanding? Surely there is a difference between the filter bubble that decides what content to show me on it's own, and an opt-in filter where I can decide for myself what content I may or may not want to see? yes, but you still would be in a bubble. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] en.wp HACKED?
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Chris Lee theornamental...@gmail.com wrote: Umm, what just happened to wikipedia? Seems normal to me. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: Election committee did what is in their power to increase participation. That's sad. :( -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email
2011/6/11 Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com: why try to increase participation is sad, Fajro? The lousy performance of the committee is sad. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Incubator improvements
Thanks! This was really needed! -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation vs. charity
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:22 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: From a New York Times blog post about the use of the word foundation versus the use of the word charity: Is the WMF only a charitable organization? I think WMF is much more than that. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/foundation http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/charity It's not exactly the same to me. -- Fajro Also, I dislike the concept of charity and agree with the views of this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpAMbpQ8J7g ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Vector, a year after
I'd like a vector-monobook hybrid. I miss the boxes in the sidebar, the size and color of the old logo and the footer of Monobook. I hate the star as watch icon, it should be an eye. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] LiquidThreads redesign?
I never liked the idea of LiquidThreads. IMHO Wikipedia should have had a forum from the start. If not for the wiki-fundamentalism and discussion pages our community could be 10 times larger. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, You do not ask a serious question on a day like today.. We are an international community, not everybody celebrates aprils fools. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Translatewiki illustrates how low internationalisation is in the priorities of the Wikimedia Foundation
The free encyclopedia that anyone can translate? I find Translatewiki.net very user-unfriendly. WMF could use more than one site for the translations. For example, I would prefer to use Transifex : http://www.transifex.net/ -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki[p/m]edia
Nonsense. Wikimedia is a Great Brand, the problem is that it was never promoted properly. In fact, the brand / logo is hidden at the bottom of the footer in every page!! No wonder why people don't know what Wikimedia is! See the login page of Wikipedia: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249248823/ Compare it whith the Flickr login: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249851594/ (Yahoo! is mentioned 5 times!) See these logos: Gmail by Google: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249196367/ Flickr from Yahoo!: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249799800/in/set-72157625445178785/ Mozilla: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249799870/in/set-72157625445178785/ They don't hide their brands! ...or proyects: Google has links to their other sites in the top of every poge: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249799850/in/set-72157625445178785/ Wikipedia sister proyects are also relegated to the bottom of the page. Apple and Adobe have lots of different products but the same header with their logos always visible. Wikia shows their brand in every wiki: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249851574/in/set-72157625445178785/ Different content, same header. CAN I HAS VISIBLE BRAND? I ican has cheezburger?: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249799928/ Failblog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249196555/ Failbook: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249799976/ Memebase: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249800010 We could just put a button linking to the foundation just below the logo: Mockup: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249381685 WP:BB -- Fajro I reeeally like the Wikimedia brand. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] funraising thru celebrity endorsements?
How about NBA players? -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Is Google translation is good for Wikipedias?
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Ragib Hasan ragibha...@gmail.com wrote: (The tool used was Google Translation Toolkit. (not Google Translate). There is a distinction between these two tools. Google Translation Toolkit (GTT) is a translation-memory based semi-manual translation tool. That is, it learns translation skills as you gradually translate articles by hand. Later, this can be used to automate translation.) Another issue: The resulting translation memory is not free. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Is Google translation is good for Wikipedias?
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote: about the toolkit, but I got the impression you're referring to Google Translate, which I agree is always unsuitable to produce usable articles. Machine translation is always unsuitable to produce usable articles, but can help to start new ones in smaller wikipedias. If we want to use machine translation we should try with a free project like Apertium: http://www.apertium.org/ http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Main_Page irc://irc.freenode.net/apertium -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 3:00 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Google is evil. Due to a filter you created, this message was not sent to Spam. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2
Maybe we should discuss if the usability is more important than multilinguism (It's not!) in Wikimedia Projects. On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Elias Gabriel Amaral da Silva If one wants to talk about usability, it's important to keep track the most impaired users, because they have more urgent needs. (Yeah, people with little English skills are actually in a disadvantageous position on wiki-en: there are few multilingual clues at the first spot, and then the see in the language I prefer section is now behind an unnecessary Languages) BTW, I liked that universal signs idea of some poster I lost track here. I just think it doesn't really apply to the language list (that How it doesn't apply? See the examples: http://languageicon.org/examples.php should be fully expanded), but rather to Discussion, Edit, etc There is an uviversal edit button: http://universaleditbutton.org/ Some universal symbols: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recycling_symbol... The language icon was inspired by those icons: Feed icon: http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/feed-icon-guidelines/ Share icon: www.openshareicons.com/ Geotag icon: http://www.geotagicons.com/ OPML icon: http://opmlicons.com/ I think it's a good idea to use an icon for language. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Victor Vasiliev vasi...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, and no wonder that IW links are used less in Vector than in Monobook. Monobook sidebar has clear division between blocks. Vector has some loosy line between them. Also, in Vector sidebar elements are on the grey background, so most people don't notice them. Honestly, the set of blue links on the grey background is one of the worst thing you may introduce to improve the usability of the sidebar. I totally agree. That's why I prefer Monobook. Well.. that and the stupid favorite/rate/bookmark star on the button watch. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: http://languageicon.org/index-icon.php That icon seems about as intuitive as the name Hyperion Frobnosticating Endoswitch for FlaggedRevs. We could make a different icon, the idea is having a single symbol for language. The only relevant mental association that comes to mind is robot tongue. Then it is quite intuitive. :P Anyway, I prefer to have the language list as before. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: In his reply to User experience feedback [2], Howief says: the language links were used relatively infrequently based on tracking data. Hiding interlanguage links by default is simply annoying, especially if you translate articles or you're a curious polyglot. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] the use of foundation-l
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:13 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Is there a way to create a chart showing how many messages each poster has posted to the list? Also Gerard I think if you're going to use an argument about the value of those people who *aren't* posting, we need to know who they are. Perhaps we don't want them to post either. who *aren't* posting? Well... we have a language barrier which makes everyone who does not feel comfortable with their level of English do not participate as much as they wanted. (myself included) There are also people who do not have time to read mails so long as many here like to write. And many are tired of reading childish and sterile discussions and call this list a useless troll's nest. Some change is needed. -- △ ℱajro △ Obstinacy and vehemency in opinion are the surest proofs of stupidity. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] One Wikipedia Per Person (regarding the distribution of and the ability to read Wikipedia)
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: Given currently existing technology, and technology that we can reasonably assume to be available within the next decade, how can the WMF best achieve its goal of giving every person free access to our current best summary of all human knowledge? Consider that Google Translate has the best machine translation corpus, I think it is too early for this. Don't forget that there aren't a Wikipedia, but Wikipedias. Each language version of Wikipedia has slightly different viewpoints/bias. Which will you chose to be the source for the translations then? And why partner with Google? There are Free alternatives in development: http://www.apertium.org/ http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Main_Page -- △ ℱajro △ ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
