High quality images

[Steve Rickaby]

At 14:45 -0800 29/1/07, Matt Sullivan wrote:

>In my experience with large full-color CMYK images, the ZIP compression
>saved roughly 15% of the file size. For that smaller size, the RIP time
>would often increase by a factor of 4x or 5x. Scaling the image within the
>application (with the exception of InDesign) would also slow the RIP. In
>each case, the application passes the processing (decompression, scaling,
>and rotating) off to the RIP.

As it happens, I hit this yesterday, with an EPS of a b&w screenshot with a lot 
of white space (actually a shot of FrameMaker's structure view).

Saved from Illustrator CS2 as TIFF with LZW on, 1MB, with LZW off, 19 MB.

RIPs aside, my client's aren't going to thank me for a 19 MB file of a rather 
plain and boring screenshot.

(I didn't use PDF because clients specify TIFF for this application.)

-- 
Steve

High quality images

[Dov Isaacs]

Psst. A dirty little not-so-secret.

FrameMaker does NOT support "native .AI files."
What it does support are Adobe Illustrator files
saved with the PDF-compatibility option. When you
import such files, FrameMaker's import filter ignores
the private Illustrator data in such files and treats
them as PDF files and internally converts the PDF to
EPS.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Kenneth C. Benson
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 6:37 PM
> To: 'Framers List'
> Subject: Re: High quality images
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Matt Sullivan" 
> 
> > Along those lines, another client refuses to import native 
> .ai files 
> > and instead uses EPS because of the .5 second delay in preview. The 
> > little things count when multipled out hundreds of times!
> 
> 
> Funny, I began saving all graphics (even bitmaps) as EPS 
> years ago for just that reason. EPS moves faster because the 
> preview is really bad (or nonexistent). Of course, ten years 
> ago, it was considerably more than a half a second to pull up 
> a letter-size 600 ppi scan.
> 
> Kenneth Benson

Plugin for enhanced find/change operations?

[Michael Zaichenko]

I had this idea some time ago. Even started to write a script. Never 
finished it. As far as I know there is no such plug-in. One day I'll sit 
down and finish my script. You will be the first one to receive it. Unless 
of course you find something better. Let me know then.
Michael


>From: "Alison Carrico" 
>To: 
>Subject: Plugin for enhanced find/change operations?
>Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:45:18 -0600
>
>Does anyone know of a plugin, script or workaround that will allow me to
>find/change text & character tags in one operation?
>
>
>
>I would like to apply a character tag to a particular character that is
>used in paragraphs of several different styles without changing the rest
>of the attributes. As far as I can tell, Frame only lets me change
>character attributes, not tags.
>
>
>
>Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>
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Disk vs memory

[michael.l...@thomson.com]

All,

My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker
yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers
yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone
tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume
is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc?

I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between
computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are
stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the
disk that files are saved to.  A search of C for the .fm files didn't
turn up the targets.

Tips are welcome--the sooner the better.

Thanks,
Mike


Mike Long
Team Leader, User Documentation
Thomson Medstat

Disk vs memory

[Gordon McLean]

Depends how you have things set up.

If you have been working from the network, and selected for FrameMaker to
create a backup file, I'm afraid the default is to place the backup file in
the working directory (right next to each other, it's daft!).

I don't think FrameMaker keeps a local cache on the client machine I'm
afraid..

Sorry. I hope someone else has a more encouraging answer for you.

*heads off to commit changes to SVN!*

Gordon 

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Subject: Disk vs memory

All,

My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker
yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers yesterday
and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone tell if and
where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume is the "disk"
referred to in Frame doc?

I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between
computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are stored
on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the disk that
files are saved to.  A search of C for the .fm files didn't turn up the
targets.

Tips are welcome--the sooner the better.

Thanks,
Mike


Mike Long
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Disk vs memory

[Art Campbell]

I think they're probably lost, but you could try searching for *.fm*
files because some time-saved files have a system-generated suffix.
Assuming Windows, make sure your search includes hidden and system
folders.

You might also tell your network guys that REAL sysadmins work under
cover of night...
When the users are in bed.

Art

On 1/30/07, Michael.Long at thomson.com  wrote:
> All,
>
> My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker
> yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers
> yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone
> tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume
> is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc?
>
> I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between
> computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are
> stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the
> disk that files are saved to.  A search of C for the .fm files didn't
> turn up the targets.
>
> Tips are welcome--the sooner the better.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
>
> Mike Long
> Team Leader, User Documentation
> Thomson Medstat
>
>
>
>
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Disk vs memory

[michael.l...@thomson.com]

> Can't you ask your network admin to restore your files.  They 
> have to back up the network regularly. If they can't give you 
> the latest, at least they should be able to restore to a 
> recent save.  So it won't be a total loss.

Good point Clara. But for the update process they copy all dirs and
files to a replica server, and then back to the production server when
done. They can't find the updated files on the replica. It turns out
that our rework should not take more than a half day, so more the
nuisance than anything. 

> You might also tell your network guys that REAL sysadmins 
> work under cover of night...
> When the users are in bed.

I like your attitude Art. I've tried that in the past, and also asking
for notification before they begin. I may have to go higher. On the
other hand, they might reply that REAL tech writers work in a secured
source environment, which I will be looking into more aggressively. 

Thanks,
Mike Long

Text inset strange behaviour, any solution?? [revisited]

[Steve Rickaby]

Some time ago: At 02:13 -0800 13/3/06, vikram chugh wrote:

>When i import a text inset with the options listed below I get an extra line 
>after importing the text inset. I am sure that my text inset does not have any 
>extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting this extra line. I have 
>tried using the Ctrl+Space option but to no avail.
>
>? Flow to import: Body Page Flow
>? Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current
>document?s formats
>? Updating of imported flow: Automatic

and at 08:29 -0700 13/3/06, Grant Hogarth wrote:

>Known issue with FM.  Not sure if it is a bug (not working as designed)
>or not.
>Workaround:
>1) Define the smallest paragraph you can (2pt font, 0pt line spacing,
>0pt above/below...).
>2) Insert this as a blank para at the top of the referenced flow.

Grant subsequently kindly sent me a demo file, and this fix does indeed work...

...for unstructured FrameMaker. But when applied in structured FrameMaker, it 
appears not to. We cannot work out why this should be, but in my test file I 
was careful to prevent the EDD applying a para format to override the para tag 
described in step 1 above.

Does anyone have any idea why this should be, and/or a possible workaround?

-- 
Steve

Disk vs memory

[Steve Cavanaugh]

You've probably lost your files for good.  Unless you specifically set
up an alternate location for backup files, there isn't an automatic
feature to make backups.  

This is a good time to point out that there are some great utilities out
there that help in this regard.  I use a free one called Karen's
Replicator (http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp) It
makes backups from whatever folder structure I want, to whatever folder
structure I want, on the schedule I set.  All of my work has three
copies, one on my machine, one on the file server, and one on a backup
server, and all of this happens behind the scenes without any manual
intervention by me.  This has really saved my butt a few times!


Steve Cavanaugh
Sr. Technical Writer
NAT Seattle Inc.

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On Behalf Of Michael.Long at thomson.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:56 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Disk vs memory

All,

My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker
yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers
yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone
tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume
is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc?

I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between
computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are
stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the
disk that files are saved to.  A search of C for the .fm files didn't
turn up the targets.

Tips are welcome--the sooner the better.

Thanks,
Mike


Mike Long
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Disk vs memory

[Clara Hall]

Can't you ask your network admin to restore your files.  They have to
back up the network regularly. If they can't give you the latest, at
least they should be able to restore to a recent save.  So it won't be a
total loss.
:)

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Subject: Disk vs memory

All,

My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker
yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers
yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone
tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume
is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc?

I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between
computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are
stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the
disk that files are saved to.  A search of C for the .fm files didn't
turn up the targets.

Tips are welcome--the sooner the better.

Thanks,
Mike


Mike Long
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Disk vs memory

[Art Campbell]

Microsoft has released a great similar tool, SyncToy.
I love it. ;- )  Got backups everywhere

Art

On 1/30/07, Steve Cavanaugh  wrote:
> You've probably lost your files for good.  Unless you specifically set
> up an alternate location for backup files, there isn't an automatic
> feature to make backups.
>
> This is a good time to point out that there are some great utilities out
> there that help in this regard.  I use a free one called Karen's
> Replicator (http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp) It
> makes backups from whatever folder structure I want, to whatever folder
> structure I want, on the schedule I set.  All of my work has three
> copies, one on my machine, one on the file server, and one on a backup
> server, and all of this happens behind the scenes without any manual
> intervention by me.  This has really saved my butt a few times!
>
>
> Steve Cavanaugh
> Sr. Technical Writer
> NAT Seattle Inc.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+scavanaugh=nat-seattle.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+scavanaugh=nat-seattle.com at lists.frameusers.com]
> On Behalf Of Michael.Long at thomson.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:56 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Disk vs memory
>
> All,
>
> My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker
> yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers
> yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone
> tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume
> is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc?
>
> I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between
> computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are
> stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the
> disk that files are saved to.  A search of C for the .fm files didn't
> turn up the targets.
>
> Tips are welcome--the sooner the better.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
>
> Mike Long
> Team Leader, User Documentation
> Thomson Medstat
>
>
>
>
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Menus created via FDK/API in Simplified Chinese?

[Scott Prentice]

I've never tried it but I assume that it's possible to do since much of 
the shipping UI is built using the FDK. There is a sample dialog box 
template provided with the FDK that uses Kanji .. 
samples/dre/jtemplat.dre .. you might try posting your question to the 
Frame Developers group on Yahoo .. 
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/frame_dev/

...scott

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Leximation, Inc.
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John Smart wrote:
> Further to Maxwell Hoffman's post on Kanji (Japanese )menus. Can 
> anyone from
> Adobe Asia advise on customer FDK localization in Simplified Chinese. 
> We are
> also looking for a quick solution with the FDK.
>
> The task is easy in single-byte with one line of code as shown below. 
> The question
> Maxwell may be asking is support for double-byte at the system level.
>
> F_ApiDefineAndAddCommand(TRANS_DOC, menuId6, "tr2", "Translate 
> Document",NULL);
>
> Like to hear from FM users in China, especially in financial 
> publications.
>

FM 7.1 Compatibility

[William Gaffga]

Hi all.

Now that it is out, I am looking at moving (at least some of) our Doc  
Group to Vista. I don't particularly want to but we always do the  
screenshots on the latest OS. So, that will of course require some  
software upgrades.

One person on the Adobe Forums has with mostly success ... he had  
some OLE issues but that is not surprising. Has anyone here tried FM  
7.1 running on Vista? I'd be interested in the results. If I can  
avoid an upgrade to 7.2 to save a few bucks that'd be nice.

TIA.

Will.

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In Charge of All Things Documentation
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Plugin for enhanced find/change operations?

[Art Campbell]

Might want to look at superfind... don't know if it does what you
want, but it is out there...

http://www.bedagi.com/product/11716?type=2&genre=&category=181&subcategory=0

Art

On 1/29/07, Alison Carrico  wrote:
> Does anyone know of a plugin, script or workaround that will allow me to
> find/change text & character tags in one operation?
>
>
>
> I would like to apply a character tag to a particular character that is
> used in paragraphs of several different styles without changing the rest
> of the attributes. As far as I can tell, Frame only lets me change
> character attributes, not tags.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>
> ___
>


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Plugin for enhanced find/change operations?

[Michael D. Conner]

Can't you just do this with a find and replace by pasting? Set up one
instance of the character with the proper character format, select it and
copy, then find the character and replace by pasting, which puts in the
character with the character format.

Mike Conner



on 1/30/07 2:28 PM, Art Campbell at art.campbell at gmail.com wrote:

> Might want to look at superfind... don't know if it does what you
> want, but it is out there...
> 
> http://www.bedagi.com/product/11716?type=2&genre=&category=181&subcategory=0
> 
> Art
> 
> On 1/29/07, Alison Carrico  wrote:
>> Does anyone know of a plugin, script or workaround that will allow me to
>> find/change text & character tags in one operation?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would like to apply a character tag to a particular character that is
>> used in paragraphs of several different styles without changing the rest
>> of the attributes. As far as I can tell, Frame only lets me change
>> character attributes, not tags.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>> 
>> ___
>> 
> 

Text inset strange behaviour, any solution?? [revisited]

[Michael Zaichenko]

Set the last paragraph of the source document to Run-In. It will solve the 
problem.
Michael


>From: Steve Rickaby 
>To: framers at FrameUsers.com
>Subject: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution?? [revisited]
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:49:37 +
>
>Some time ago: At 02:13 -0800 13/3/06, vikram chugh wrote:
>
> >When i import a text inset with the options listed below I get an extra 
>line after importing the text inset. I am sure that my text inset does not 
>have any extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting this extra 
>line. I have tried using the Ctrl+Space option but to no avail.
> >
> >? Flow to import: Body Page Flow
> >? Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current
> >document?s formats
> >? Updating of imported flow: Automatic
>
>and at 08:29 -0700 13/3/06, Grant Hogarth wrote:
>
> >Known issue with FM.  Not sure if it is a bug (not working as designed)
> >or not.
> >Workaround:
> >1) Define the smallest paragraph you can (2pt font, 0pt line spacing,
> >0pt above/below...).
> >2) Insert this as a blank para at the top of the referenced flow.
>
>Grant subsequently kindly sent me a demo file, and this fix does indeed 
>work...
>
>...for unstructured FrameMaker. But when applied in structured FrameMaker, 
>it appears not to. We cannot work out why this should be, but in my test 
>file I was careful to prevent the EDD applying a para format to override 
>the para tag described in step 1 above.
>
>Does anyone have any idea why this should be, and/or a possible workaround?
>
>--
>Steve
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Upgrade to Framemaker 7.2 issues

[EXI-Bajaj, Gaurav]

Hi,

We use Framemaker 7.1 and FDK 7.1 to create an API client (DLL) that
converts the .fm files to .xml. This DLL is built and compiled using
VC++ 6.0 (FM 7.1/FDK 7.1) and is then placed under the
framemaker7.1\fminit\plugins directory.

The system requirements section of FDK 7.2 and 7.1 suggest that they are
targeted for VS.NET 2003 and VC++ 6.0 resp.

Now, we are upgrading to Framemaker 7.2 (patch 7.2p158). During the
testing I have run into some issues when recreating this DLL with FM 7.2
and FDK 7.1/2. 

Following is what i have tried so far...

1. FM 7.2/FDK 7.2/.NET 2003 env.
Open the existing workspace (VC++ 6.0) in .NET 2003 and build the DLL
using FDK 7.2 libraries and header files. After placing this DLL under
the plugins directory, when i open a .fm file and try to save it as
.xml... i get a "internal error 7204 . Framemaker has
detected a serious problem and must quit". After clicking on OK, i get
memory cannot be read error and the framemaker closes.

2. FM 7.2/FDK 7.1/.NET 2003 env.
Open the existing workspace (VC++ 6.0) in .NET 2003 and build the DLL
using the FDK 7.1 libraries and header files. The DLL is placed in the
plugins directory. But as soon as I start the framemaker, i get an error
"Cannot initialize API client c:\program
files\adobe\framemaker7.2\plugins\XYZ.DLL"

3. FM 7.2/FDK 7.2/ VC++ 6.0 env
I can compile the .c file but can't build the XYZ.dll. I get the error
"Unresolved external symbol _ftol2" in struct.lib (for different obj
files). I tried fixing this by including the following in my code, but
even then i get the same error:
long _ftol (double)
long _ftol2 (double dblSource) { return _ftol(dblSource); }

4. FM 7.2/FDK 7.1/ VC++ 6.0 env
I can compile and build the DLL. But after placing it in the plugins
directory and starting the framemaker, i get the error "Cannot
initialize API client c:\program
files\adobe\framemaker7.2\plugins\XYZ.DLL"

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Gaurav 

High quality images

[T.W. Smith]

Hi,

CAVEAT: Dov does not like this content, and I respect his judgement.
Nonetheless, I believe there's good information here on the whole. two
points:

1) Take a look at Screen Captures 102 here:
http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/magazine/technical/screencapgraphicshomepage.html
. 

2) Drawing software tells me you're using vectors and want to use EPS
instead of rasters like PNG, GIF, TIFF, etc.

Cheers,

Sean


On 1/29/07, Jon Harvey  wrote:
>
> Dov,
>
> I tried this. FrameMake imports the tif as an empty graphic frame with
> the image file name in it. The image can be activated but only in a
> graphics program. And, what you see in FM is the same as you get in the
> PDF. Unless there is something I can't get FM 7.2 on Windows to display
> the TIF with LZW compression.
>
> BTW, high quality imaging is an important subject to me since my company
> creates drawing software. Our images HAVE to look good. What am I
> missing here?
>
> Jon Harvey
> Manager, Desktop Documentation
>
> CambridgeSoft Corporation
> 100 CambridgePark Drive
> Cambridge, MA 02140
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft.com at lists.frameusers.com]
> On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:01 AM
> To: Stuart Rogers; Clara Hall
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: High quality images
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Stuart Rogers
> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:28 AM
> > To: Clara Hall
> > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Re: High quality images
>
> > Clara Hall wrote:
> > > Hello everyone,
>
> > > We have recently adopted a procedure to yield the highest quality
> > > images which includes the following steps:
>
> > > 1.  Alt-PrintScrn the image into Photoshop
> > > 2.  Save the image as a "Photoshop EPS".  Make sure "Image
> > > Interpolation" is set.
>
> > > This sets a image dictionary key that Adobe PostScript Level 2,
> Adobe
> > > PostScript 3, Acrobat, and Acrobat Reader use to do very high
>
> > > quality image interpolation and/or downsampling appropriate to the
> > > device's actual resolution and technology at the time the image is
> > > viewed or printed. (Distiller passes this key along from PostScript
> or
> > > EPS in a PostScript stream into the equivalent PDF image key!)
>
> > > 3.  Import the resultant EPS file into FM.
>
>
>
> > > This procedure is a bit time consuming and I was wondering if anyone
>
> > > has another way, or knows of a script which might be able to do a
> > > comparable task.
>
> > The procedure you describe is advocated by Dov Isaacs of
> > Adobe, and his instructions also include selecting Binary
> > encoding and TIFF 8-bit preview. I don't know if the current
> > version of Snag-It, suggested by Art, includes those options.
> >  In my somewhat geriatric version of Snag-It, the only
> > setting for EPS is colour-depth.
>
> > But I'm not sure there's a great deal of benefit if you're
> > starting out with screenshots, which are low-res to begin
> > with. Photos and other types of graphics may benefit more
> > from the treatment you describe.
>
> > (If you're monitoring this thread, Dov, can you comment?)
>
> > As far as scripting your current process goes, you can
> > automate at least part of it by using the built-in
> > macro-recording feature in Photoshop (Window > Actions) to
> > open a new RGB window, paste, flatten, save as in folder... etc.
>
> > HTH,
>
> > --
> > Stuart Rogers
>
>
> FWIW,
>
> Yes, in the past I did recommend the EPS route with the image
> interpolation flag from Photoshop.
>
> In the meantime, Acrobat and Reader, beginning with versions 6
> or 7, do a much better job of displaying and enhancing low
> resolution images (such as those from screen shots) on screen,
> making that "interpolation flag" (available in the workflow
> available now only when saving EPS from Photoshop) somewhat
> unnecessary. I do not use this anymore. For printing, virtually
> every PostScript or PDF RIP / printer that I know of will
> adequately handle the images without the interpolation bit on.
>
> As such, my current recommendation for screen shots in FrameMaker
> or for that matter, almost any other page layout program, is to
> capture the image and save without any resampling as a TIFF file
> using the LZW compression option.
>
> - Dov
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FM 7.1 Compatibility

[T.W. Smith]

No.

I wouldn't move a production machine to Vista for at least another 9 months.
I'd run SnagIt on the test box and document on XP.

However, FM has always had issues with OLE, I recommend avoiding it on any
and all OSes.


On 1/30/07, William Gaffga  wrote:
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> Hi all.
>
> Now that it is out, I am looking at moving (at least some of) our Doc
> Group to Vista. I don't particularly want to but we always do the
> screenshots on the latest OS. So, that will of course require some
> software upgrades.
>
> One person on the Adobe Forums has with mostly success ... he had
> some OLE issues but that is not surprising. Has anyone here tried FM
> 7.1 running on Vista? I'd be interested in the results. If I can
> avoid an upgrade to 7.2 to save a few bucks that'd be nice.
>
> TIA.
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FM 7.1 Compatibility

[Dov Isaacs]

To be fair, I would not say that "FM has always had
issues with OLE" but rather that OLE has always required
"two to tango" and to tango to the same music at that!
Adobe's use of OLE in FrameMaker is actually fairly
stable. On the other hand, some Microsoft applications,
notably Visio as a particular example, have been known
to have somewhat less than robust OLE implementations.
FWIW, I had some "live" FrameMaker documents with OLE
links into Excel spreadsheets that worked like a charm
all the way from FrameMaker 5.5.6 through 7.1. The only
reason I don't use that OLE scenario anymore is that I
don't use that document anymore!

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Behalf Of T.W. Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:37 PM
> To: William Gaffga
> Cc: Framers List
> Subject: Re: FM 7.1 Compatibility
> 
> No.
> 
> I wouldn't move a production machine to Vista for at least 
> another 9 months.
> I'd run SnagIt on the test box and document on XP.
> 
> However, FM has always had issues with OLE, I recommend 
> avoiding it on any and all OSes.
> 

FM 7.1 Compatibility

[Dov Isaacs]

PS: I would strongly concur about any migrations from
Windows 2000 or especially Windows XP to Vista. Unless
you have a brand new system with tons of memory, dual
cores, high speed graphics card, and plenty of extra
disk space, use of Vista to support typical FrameMaker
and associated support programs (including Photoshop,
Illustrator, and Acrobat) buys you precious little other
than a sluggish system. Best idea is to wait until you
need to replace your current computers.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: T.W. Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:37 PM
> To: William Gaffga
> Cc: Framers List
> Subject: Re: FM 7.1 Compatibility
> 
> No.
> 
> I wouldn't move a production machine to Vista for at least 
> another 9 months.
> I'd run SnagIt on the test box and document on XP.
> 
> However, FM has always had issues with OLE, I recommend 
> avoiding it on any and all OSes.

FM 7.1 Compatibility

[T.W. Smith]

Agreed. I did not mean to blame FM. Rather, I meant to recommend against
OLE.

Import graphics by reference. From Visio, this means PDF or EPS created from
PDF. Works for me like a charm. (Actually, I usually go furhter and import
that into illustrator, edit from there, and use the AI--PDF as Dov
rightfully notes--in FM.)

On 1/30/07, Dov Isaacs  wrote:
>
> PS: I would strongly concur about any migrations from
> Windows 2000 or especially Windows XP to Vista. Unless
> you have a brand new system with tons of memory, dual
> cores, high speed graphics card, and plenty of extra
> disk space, use of Vista to support typical FrameMaker
> and associated support programs (including Photoshop,
> Illustrator, and Acrobat) buys you precious little other
> than a sluggish system. Best idea is to wait until you
> need to replace your current computers.
>
> - Dov
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: T.W. Smith
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:37 PM
> > To: William Gaffga
> > Cc: Framers List
> > Subject: Re: FM 7.1 Compatibility
> >
> > No.
> >
> > I wouldn't move a production machine to Vista for at least
> > another 9 months.
> > I'd run SnagIt on the test box and document on XP.
> >
> > However, FM has always had issues with OLE, I recommend
> > avoiding it on any and all OSes.
>



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RE: High quality images

[Steve Rickaby]

At 14:45 -0800 29/1/07, Matt Sullivan wrote:

>In my experience with large full-color CMYK images, the ZIP compression
>saved roughly 15% of the file size. For that smaller size, the RIP time
>would often increase by a factor of 4x or 5x. Scaling the image within the
>application (with the exception of InDesign) would also slow the RIP. In
>each case, the application passes the processing (decompression, scaling,
>and rotating) off to the RIP.

As it happens, I hit this yesterday, with an EPS of a b&w screenshot with a lot 
of white space (actually a shot of FrameMaker's structure view).

Saved from Illustrator CS2 as TIFF with LZW on, 1MB, with LZW off, 19 MB.

RIPs aside, my client's aren't going to thank me for a 19 MB file of a rather 
plain and boring screenshot.

(I didn't use PDF because clients specify TIFF for this application.)

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Re: High quality images

[Kenneth C. Benson]

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> Along those lines, another client refuses to import native .ai files and
> instead uses EPS because of the .5 second delay in preview. The little
> things count when multipled out hundreds of times!


Funny, I began saving all graphics (even bitmaps) as EPS years ago for just
that reason. EPS moves faster because the preview is really bad (or
nonexistent). Of course, ten years ago, it was considerably more than a half
a second to pull up a letter-size 600 ppi scan.

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RE: High quality images

[Dov Isaacs]

Psst. A dirty little not-so-secret.

FrameMaker does NOT support "native .AI files."
What it does support are Adobe Illustrator files
saved with the PDF-compatibility option. When you
import such files, FrameMaker's import filter ignores
the private Illustrator data in such files and treats
them as PDF files and internally converts the PDF to
EPS.

- Dov
 

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 6:37 PM
> To: 'Framers List'
> Subject: Re: High quality images
> 
> - Original Message -
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> 
> > Along those lines, another client refuses to import native 
> .ai files 
> > and instead uses EPS because of the .5 second delay in preview. The 
> > little things count when multipled out hundreds of times!
> 
> 
> Funny, I began saving all graphics (even bitmaps) as EPS 
> years ago for just that reason. EPS moves faster because the 
> preview is really bad (or nonexistent). Of course, ten years 
> ago, it was considerably more than a half a second to pull up 
> a letter-size 600 ppi scan.
> 
> Kenneth Benson
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RE: Plugin for enhanced find/change operations?

[Michael Zaichenko]

I had this idea some time ago. Even started to write a script. Never 
finished it. As far as I know there is no such plug-in. One day I'll sit 
down and finish my script. You will be the first one to receive it. Unless 
of course you find something better. Let me know then.

Michael



From: "Alison Carrico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: Plugin for enhanced find/change operations?
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:45:18 -0600

Does anyone know of a plugin, script or workaround that will allow me to
find/change text & character tags in one operation?



I would like to apply a character tag to a particular character that is
used in paragraphs of several different styles without changing the rest
of the attributes. As far as I can tell, Frame only lets me change
character attributes, not tags.



Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

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Disk vs memory

[Michael.Long]

All,
 
My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker
yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers
yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone
tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume
is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc?
 
I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between
computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are
stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the
disk that files are saved to.  A search of C for the .fm files didn't
turn up the targets.
 
Tips are welcome--the sooner the better.
 
Thanks,
Mike


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RE: Disk vs memory

[Gordon McLean]

Depends how you have things set up.

If you have been working from the network, and selected for FrameMaker to
create a backup file, I'm afraid the default is to place the backup file in
the working directory (right next to each other, it's daft!).

I don't think FrameMaker keeps a local cache on the client machine I'm
afraid..

Sorry. I hope someone else has a more encouraging answer for you.

*heads off to commit changes to SVN!*

Gordon 

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All,
 
My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker
yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers yesterday
and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone tell if and
where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume is the "disk"
referred to in Frame doc?
 
I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between
computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are stored
on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the disk that
files are saved to.  A search of C for the .fm files didn't turn up the
targets.
 
Tips are welcome--the sooner the better.
 
Thanks,
Mike


Mike Long
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Re: Disk vs memory

[Art Campbell]

I think they're probably lost, but you could try searching for *.fm*
files because some time-saved files have a system-generated suffix.
Assuming Windows, make sure your search includes hidden and system
folders.

You might also tell your network guys that REAL sysadmins work under
cover of night...
When the users are in bed.

Art

On 1/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

All,

My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker
yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers
yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone
tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume
is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc?

I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between
computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are
stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the
disk that files are saved to.  A search of C for the .fm files didn't
turn up the targets.

Tips are welcome--the sooner the better.

Thanks,
Mike


Mike Long
Team Leader, User Documentation
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RE: Disk vs memory

[Michael.Long]

> Can't you ask your network admin to restore your files.  They 
> have to back up the network regularly. If they can't give you 
> the latest, at least they should be able to restore to a 
> recent save.  So it won't be a total loss.

Good point Clara. But for the update process they copy all dirs and
files to a replica server, and then back to the production server when
done. They can't find the updated files on the replica. It turns out
that our rework should not take more than a half day, so more the
nuisance than anything. 

> You might also tell your network guys that REAL sysadmins 
> work under cover of night...
> When the users are in bed.

I like your attitude Art. I've tried that in the past, and also asking
for notification before they begin. I may have to go higher. On the
other hand, they might reply that REAL tech writers work in a secured
source environment, which I will be looking into more aggressively. 

Thanks,
Mike Long
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Text inset strange behaviour, any solution?? [revisited]

[Steve Rickaby]

Some time ago: At 02:13 -0800 13/3/06, vikram chugh wrote:

>When i import a text inset with the options listed below I get an extra line 
>after importing the text inset. I am sure that my text inset does not have any 
>extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting this extra line. I have 
>tried using the Ctrl+Space option but to no avail.
>
>• Flow to import: Body Page Flow
>• Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current
>document’s formats
>• Updating of imported flow: Automatic

and at 08:29 -0700 13/3/06, Grant Hogarth wrote:

>Known issue with FM.  Not sure if it is a bug (not working as designed)
>or not.
>Workaround:
>1) Define the smallest paragraph you can (2pt font, 0pt line spacing,
>0pt above/below...).
>2) Insert this as a blank para at the top of the referenced flow.

Grant subsequently kindly sent me a demo file, and this fix does indeed work...

...for unstructured FrameMaker. But when applied in structured FrameMaker, it 
appears not to. We cannot work out why this should be, but in my test file I 
was careful to prevent the EDD applying a para format to override the para tag 
described in step 1 above.

Does anyone have any idea why this should be, and/or a possible workaround?

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RE: Disk vs memory

[Steve Cavanaugh]

You've probably lost your files for good.  Unless you specifically set
up an alternate location for backup files, there isn't an automatic
feature to make backups.  

This is a good time to point out that there are some great utilities out
there that help in this regard.  I use a free one called Karen's
Replicator (http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp) It
makes backups from whatever folder structure I want, to whatever folder
structure I want, on the schedule I set.  All of my work has three
copies, one on my machine, one on the file server, and one on a backup
server, and all of this happens behind the scenes without any manual
intervention by me.  This has really saved my butt a few times!


Steve Cavanaugh
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NAT Seattle Inc.

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Subject: Disk vs memory

All,
 
My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker
yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers
yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone
tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume
is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc?
 
I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between
computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are
stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the
disk that files are saved to.  A search of C for the .fm files didn't
turn up the targets.
 
Tips are welcome--the sooner the better.
 
Thanks,
Mike


Mike Long
Team Leader, User Documentation
Thomson Medstat




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RE: Disk vs memory

[Clara Hall]

Can't you ask your network admin to restore your files.  They have to
back up the network regularly. If they can't give you the latest, at
least they should be able to restore to a recent save.  So it won't be a
total loss.
:)

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All,
 
My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker
yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers
yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone
tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume
is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc?
 
I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between
computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are
stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the
disk that files are saved to.  A search of C for the .fm files didn't
turn up the targets.
 
Tips are welcome--the sooner the better.
 
Thanks,
Mike


Mike Long
Team Leader, User Documentation
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Re: Disk vs memory

[Art Campbell]

Microsoft has released a great similar tool, SyncToy.
I love it. ;- )  Got backups everywhere

Art

On 1/30/07, Steve Cavanaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You've probably lost your files for good.  Unless you specifically set
up an alternate location for backup files, there isn't an automatic
feature to make backups.

This is a good time to point out that there are some great utilities out
there that help in this regard.  I use a free one called Karen's
Replicator (http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp) It
makes backups from whatever folder structure I want, to whatever folder
structure I want, on the schedule I set.  All of my work has three
copies, one on my machine, one on the file server, and one on a backup
server, and all of this happens behind the scenes without any manual
intervention by me.  This has really saved my butt a few times!


Steve Cavanaugh
Sr. Technical Writer
NAT Seattle Inc.

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All,

My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker
yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers
yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone
tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume
is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc?

I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between
computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are
stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the
disk that files are saved to.  A search of C for the .fm files didn't
turn up the targets.

Tips are welcome--the sooner the better.

Thanks,
Mike


Mike Long
Team Leader, User Documentation
Thomson Medstat




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Re: Menus created via FDK/API in Simplified Chinese?

[Scott Prentice]

I've never tried it but I assume that it's possible to do since much of 
the shipping UI is built using the FDK. There is a sample dialog box 
template provided with the FDK that uses Kanji .. 
samples/dre/jtemplat.dre .. you might try posting your question to the 
Frame Developers group on Yahoo .. 
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/frame_dev/


...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



John Smart wrote:
Further to Maxwell Hoffman's post on Kanji (Japanese )menus. Can 
anyone from
Adobe Asia advise on customer FDK localization in Simplified Chinese. 
We are

also looking for a quick solution with the FDK.

The task is easy in single-byte with one line of code as shown below. 
The question

Maxwell may be asking is support for double-byte at the system level.

F_ApiDefineAndAddCommand(TRANS_DOC, menuId6, "tr2", "Translate 
Document",NULL);


Like to hear from FM users in China, especially in financial 
publications.




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FM 7.1 Compatibility

[William Gaffga]

Hi all.

Now that it is out, I am looking at moving (at least some of) our Doc  
Group to Vista. I don't particularly want to but we always do the  
screenshots on the latest OS. So, that will of course require some  
software upgrades.


One person on the Adobe Forums has with mostly success ... he had  
some OLE issues but that is not surprising. Has anyone here tried FM  
7.1 running on Vista? I'd be interested in the results. If I can  
avoid an upgrade to 7.2 to save a few bucks that'd be nice.


TIA.

Will.

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Re: Plugin for enhanced find/change operations?

[Art Campbell]

Might want to look at superfind... don't know if it does what you
want, but it is out there...

http://www.bedagi.com/product/11716?type=2&genre=&category=181&subcategory=0

Art

On 1/29/07, Alison Carrico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Does anyone know of a plugin, script or workaround that will allow me to
find/change text & character tags in one operation?



I would like to apply a character tag to a particular character that is
used in paragraphs of several different styles without changing the rest
of the attributes. As far as I can tell, Frame only lets me change
character attributes, not tags.



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Re: Plugin for enhanced find/change operations?

[Michael D. Conner]

Can't you just do this with a find and replace by pasting? Set up one
instance of the character with the proper character format, select it and
copy, then find the character and replace by pasting, which puts in the
character with the character format.

Mike Conner



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> Might want to look at superfind... don't know if it does what you
> want, but it is out there...
> 
> http://www.bedagi.com/product/11716?type=2&genre=&category=181&subcategory=0
> 
> Art
> 
> On 1/29/07, Alison Carrico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does anyone know of a plugin, script or workaround that will allow me to
>> find/change text & character tags in one operation?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would like to apply a character tag to a particular character that is
>> used in paragraphs of several different styles without changing the rest
>> of the attributes. As far as I can tell, Frame only lets me change
>> character attributes, not tags.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>> 
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RE: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution?? [revisited]

[Michael Zaichenko]

Set the last paragraph of the source document to Run-In. It will solve the 
problem.

Michael



From: Steve Rickaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution?? [revisited]
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:49:37 +

Some time ago: At 02:13 -0800 13/3/06, vikram chugh wrote:

>When i import a text inset with the options listed below I get an extra 
line after importing the text inset. I am sure that my text inset does not 
have any extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting this extra 
line. I have tried using the Ctrl+Space option but to no avail.

>
>• Flow to import: Body Page Flow
>• Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current
>document’s formats
>• Updating of imported flow: Automatic

and at 08:29 -0700 13/3/06, Grant Hogarth wrote:

>Known issue with FM.  Not sure if it is a bug (not working as designed)
>or not.
>Workaround:
>1) Define the smallest paragraph you can (2pt font, 0pt line spacing,
>0pt above/below...).
>2) Insert this as a blank para at the top of the referenced flow.

Grant subsequently kindly sent me a demo file, and this fix does indeed 
work...


...for unstructured FrameMaker. But when applied in structured FrameMaker, 
it appears not to. We cannot work out why this should be, but in my test 
file I was careful to prevent the EDD applying a para format to override 
the para tag described in step 1 above.


Does anyone have any idea why this should be, and/or a possible workaround?

--
Steve
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Upgrade to Framemaker 7.2 issues

[EXI-Bajaj, Gaurav]

Hi,

We use Framemaker 7.1 and FDK 7.1 to create an API client (DLL) that
converts the .fm files to .xml. This DLL is built and compiled using
VC++ 6.0 (FM 7.1/FDK 7.1) and is then placed under the
framemaker7.1\fminit\plugins directory.

The system requirements section of FDK 7.2 and 7.1 suggest that they are
targeted for VS.NET 2003 and VC++ 6.0 resp.

Now, we are upgrading to Framemaker 7.2 (patch 7.2p158). During the
testing I have run into some issues when recreating this DLL with FM 7.2
and FDK 7.1/2. 

Following is what i have tried so far...

1. FM 7.2/FDK 7.2/.NET 2003 env.
Open the existing workspace (VC++ 6.0) in .NET 2003 and build the DLL
using FDK 7.2 libraries and header files. After placing this DLL under
the plugins directory, when i open a .fm file and try to save it as
.xml... i get a "internal error 7204 . Framemaker has
detected a serious problem and must quit". After clicking on OK, i get
memory cannot be read error and the framemaker closes.

2. FM 7.2/FDK 7.1/.NET 2003 env.
Open the existing workspace (VC++ 6.0) in .NET 2003 and build the DLL
using the FDK 7.1 libraries and header files. The DLL is placed in the
plugins directory. But as soon as I start the framemaker, i get an error
"Cannot initialize API client c:\program
files\adobe\framemaker7.2\plugins\XYZ.DLL"

3. FM 7.2/FDK 7.2/ VC++ 6.0 env
I can compile the .c file but can't build the XYZ.dll. I get the error
"Unresolved external symbol _ftol2" in struct.lib (for different obj
files). I tried fixing this by including the following in my code, but
even then i get the same error:
long _ftol (double)
long _ftol2 (double dblSource) { return _ftol(dblSource); }

4. FM 7.2/FDK 7.1/ VC++ 6.0 env
I can compile and build the DLL. But after placing it in the plugins
directory and starting the framemaker, i get the error "Cannot
initialize API client c:\program
files\adobe\framemaker7.2\plugins\XYZ.DLL"

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Gaurav 

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Re: High quality images

[T.W. Smith]

Hi,

CAVEAT: Dov does not like this content, and I respect his judgement.
Nonetheless, I believe there's good information here on the whole. two
points:

1) Take a look at Screen Captures 102 here:
http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/magazine/technical/screencapgraphicshomepage.html
.

2) Drawing software tells me you're using vectors and want to use EPS
instead of rasters like PNG, GIF, TIFF, etc.

Cheers,

Sean


On 1/29/07, Jon Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Dov,

I tried this. FrameMake imports the tif as an empty graphic frame with
the image file name in it. The image can be activated but only in a
graphics program. And, what you see in FM is the same as you get in the
PDF. Unless there is something I can't get FM 7.2 on Windows to display
the TIF with LZW compression.

BTW, high quality imaging is an important subject to me since my company
creates drawing software. Our images HAVE to look good. What am I
missing here?

Jon Harvey
Manager, Desktop Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation
100 CambridgePark Drive
Cambridge, MA 02140

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Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:01 AM
To: Stuart Rogers; Clara Hall
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: High quality images



> -Original Message-
> From: Stuart Rogers
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:28 AM
> To: Clara Hall
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: High quality images

> Clara Hall wrote:
> > Hello everyone,

> > We have recently adopted a procedure to yield the highest quality
> > images which includes the following steps:

> > 1.  Alt-PrintScrn the image into Photoshop
> > 2.  Save the image as a "Photoshop EPS".  Make sure "Image
> > Interpolation" is set.

> > This sets a image dictionary key that Adobe PostScript Level 2,
Adobe
> > PostScript 3, Acrobat, and Acrobat Reader use to do very high

> > quality image interpolation and/or downsampling appropriate to the
> > device's actual resolution and technology at the time the image is
> > viewed or printed. (Distiller passes this key along from PostScript
or
> > EPS in a PostScript stream into the equivalent PDF image key!)

> > 3.  Import the resultant EPS file into FM.



> > This procedure is a bit time consuming and I was wondering if anyone

> > has another way, or knows of a script which might be able to do a
> > comparable task.

> The procedure you describe is advocated by Dov Isaacs of
> Adobe, and his instructions also include selecting Binary
> encoding and TIFF 8-bit preview. I don't know if the current
> version of Snag-It, suggested by Art, includes those options.
>  In my somewhat geriatric version of Snag-It, the only
> setting for EPS is colour-depth.

> But I'm not sure there's a great deal of benefit if you're
> starting out with screenshots, which are low-res to begin
> with. Photos and other types of graphics may benefit more
> from the treatment you describe.

> (If you're monitoring this thread, Dov, can you comment?)

> As far as scripting your current process goes, you can
> automate at least part of it by using the built-in
> macro-recording feature in Photoshop (Window > Actions) to
> open a new RGB window, paste, flatten, save as in folder... etc.

> HTH,

> --
> Stuart Rogers


FWIW,

Yes, in the past I did recommend the EPS route with the image
interpolation flag from Photoshop.

In the meantime, Acrobat and Reader, beginning with versions 6
or 7, do a much better job of displaying and enhancing low
resolution images (such as those from screen shots) on screen,
making that "interpolation flag" (available in the workflow
available now only when saving EPS from Photoshop) somewhat
unnecessary. I do not use this anymore. For printing, virtually
every PostScript or PDF RIP / printer that I know of will
adequately handle the images without the interpolation bit on.

As such, my current recommendation for screen shots in FrameMaker
or for that matter, almost any other page layout program, is to
capture the image and save without any resampling as a TIFF file
using the LZW compression option.

- Dov
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Re: FM 7.1 Compatibility

[T.W. Smith]

No.

I wouldn't move a production machine to Vista for at least another 9 months.
I'd run SnagIt on the test box and document on XP.

However, FM has always had issues with OLE, I recommend avoiding it on any
and all OSes.


On 1/30/07, William Gaffga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi all.

Now that it is out, I am looking at moving (at least some of) our Doc
Group to Vista. I don't particularly want to but we always do the
screenshots on the latest OS. So, that will of course require some
software upgrades.

One person on the Adobe Forums has with mostly success ... he had
some OLE issues but that is not surprising. Has anyone here tried FM
7.1 running on Vista? I'd be interested in the results. If I can
avoid an upgrade to 7.2 to save a few bucks that'd be nice.

TIA.

Will.

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In Charge of All Things Documentation
Gibbs and Associates
Not Far Enough From L.A.

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FrameMaker 5.5.6 > Word > InDesign help needed

[hedley . finger]

All:

A former client of mine has a thesis with many graphics imported by 
reference into FrameMaker 5.5.6 running in Classic Mac 9.1 on 
PowerMacintosh.  She wants to convert them to InDesign v. 2.0.  I 
suggested that she save to Mac Word 4, 5, or 6, or to RTF using the 
Japanese converter, in the Save As dialogue.  I can't do this myself as I 
don't have FrameMaker installed on my home Windows computer.

So, will this process work: FrameMaker 5.5.6 > Word/RTF > InDesign?  (I 
don't have InDesign or any InDesign experience.)

If this does work, can an Australian FrameMaker user who can assist in 
this conversion please contact Mary Ann directly at 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or by calling mobile 0425 794 949 (+61 425 
794 949).

Thanks,
Hedley

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MYOB Australia Pty Ltd 
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia

Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421,   Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558

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Re: FM 7.1 Compatibility

[hedley . finger]

Will:

> he had
> some OLE issues but that is not surprising.

You don't need OLE.  Import graphics by reference.  If you double-click on 
them, they will open in the associated graphics program.

Regards,
Hedley

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RE: FM 7.1 Compatibility

[Dov Isaacs]

To be fair, I would not say that "FM has always had
issues with OLE" but rather that OLE has always required
"two to tango" and to tango to the same music at that!
Adobe's use of OLE in FrameMaker is actually fairly
stable. On the other hand, some Microsoft applications,
notably Visio as a particular example, have been known
to have somewhat less than robust OLE implementations.
FWIW, I had some "live" FrameMaker documents with OLE
links into Excel spreadsheets that worked like a charm
all the way from FrameMaker 5.5.6 through 7.1. The only
reason I don't use that OLE scenario anymore is that I
don't use that document anymore!

- Dov
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Behalf Of T.W. Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:37 PM
> To: William Gaffga
> Cc: Framers List
> Subject: Re: FM 7.1 Compatibility
> 
> No.
> 
> I wouldn't move a production machine to Vista for at least 
> another 9 months.
> I'd run SnagIt on the test box and document on XP.
> 
> However, FM has always had issues with OLE, I recommend 
> avoiding it on any and all OSes.
> 
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RE: FM 7.1 Compatibility

[Dov Isaacs]

PS: I would strongly concur about any migrations from
Windows 2000 or especially Windows XP to Vista. Unless
you have a brand new system with tons of memory, dual
cores, high speed graphics card, and plenty of extra
disk space, use of Vista to support typical FrameMaker
and associated support programs (including Photoshop,
Illustrator, and Acrobat) buys you precious little other
than a sluggish system. Best idea is to wait until you
need to replace your current computers.

- Dov
 

> -Original Message-
> From: T.W. Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:37 PM
> To: William Gaffga
> Cc: Framers List
> Subject: Re: FM 7.1 Compatibility
> 
> No.
> 
> I wouldn't move a production machine to Vista for at least 
> another 9 months.
> I'd run SnagIt on the test box and document on XP.
> 
> However, FM has always had issues with OLE, I recommend 
> avoiding it on any and all OSes.
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Re: FM 7.1 Compatibility

[T.W. Smith]

Agreed. I did not mean to blame FM. Rather, I meant to recommend against
OLE.

Import graphics by reference. From Visio, this means PDF or EPS created from
PDF. Works for me like a charm. (Actually, I usually go furhter and import
that into illustrator, edit from there, and use the AI--PDF as Dov
rightfully notes--in FM.)

On 1/30/07, Dov Isaacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


PS: I would strongly concur about any migrations from
Windows 2000 or especially Windows XP to Vista. Unless
you have a brand new system with tons of memory, dual
cores, high speed graphics card, and plenty of extra
disk space, use of Vista to support typical FrameMaker
and associated support programs (including Photoshop,
Illustrator, and Acrobat) buys you precious little other
than a sluggish system. Best idea is to wait until you
need to replace your current computers.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: T.W. Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:37 PM
> To: William Gaffga
> Cc: Framers List
> Subject: Re: FM 7.1 Compatibility
>
> No.
>
> I wouldn't move a production machine to Vista for at least
> another 9 months.
> I'd run SnagIt on the test box and document on XP.
>
> However, FM has always had issues with OLE, I recommend
> avoiding it on any and all OSes.





--
T.


STC-Connecticut Chapter
http://www.stc-ct.org

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character tags in cross reference text

[rebecca officer]

Hi everyone

I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a
cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged text, and
preserve the character tag in the cross-reference?

We document commands, and some of them have italics in part of the
command syntax. In the associated step-by-step instructions, the most
reliable way to include the command syntax is to use cross-references.
But the italics get lost. :-(

Thanks!
Rebecca

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RE: Disk vs memory

[Paul Grigg]

Shot in the dark, but if that FrameMaker file or a previous version of it
was ever run through Webworks to create some form of online help, then under
the \temp folder you'll find a mif version of it.

Paul 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:56 PM
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Subject: Disk vs memory

All,
 
My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker
yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers yesterday
and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone tell if and
where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume is the "disk"
referred to in Frame doc?
 
I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between
computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are stored
on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the disk that
files are saved to.  A search of C for the .fm files didn't turn up the
targets.
 
Tips are welcome--the sooner the better.
 
Thanks,
Mike


Mike Long
Team Leader, User Documentation
Thomson Medstat




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