Today's exercise in misunderstanding English

[Whites]

I'm completely in agreeance.
"Updation" strikes me as a perfectly cromulent word.

Will White
Monrovia CA

On Apr 24, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote:

> Sigh...  Selected the wrong list email when I sent this!!!  Sorry,
> everyone.
>
> (FWIW, this was all about someone finding the word "updation" in some
> outsourced programming files. And the fact that the word has been  
> around
> and in use for the past decade or so... )
>
> TGIF is all I can say.
>
> -Carla
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek,
> Carla
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:31 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Today's exercise in misunderstanding English
>
> Forsooth, and if thy language dost ne'er evolv'd, henceforth thee
> wouldst speaketh as the ancient Bard. Verily, the words of man must
> changeth and groweth as the seasons change -- looketh upon all the
> wordings which the Bard hast introduc'd into our speech. Woulds't thou
> changeth all that?
>
> -Carla
> (with apologies, but since yesterday was "Talk Like Shakespeare  
> Day" in
> Chicago...)
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: techwr-l-bounces+cmartinek=zebra.com at lists.techwr-l.com
> [mailto:techwr-l-bounces+cmartinek=zebra.com at lists.techwr-l.com] On
> Behalf Of Handy, David
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 7:02 AM
> To: Gene Kim-Eng; techwr-l at lists.techwr-l.com
> Subject: RE: Today's exercise in misunderstanding English
>
> Buck it, Gene - buck it!
>
> This isn't just a matter of a new word gatecrashing the dictionary.  
> This
> is key grammar.
>
> The number of people who think that legalized bad grammar is a portent
> of a crumbling civilization is kinda small, but it includes me; and if
> we writers don't jump up and down about this, nobody will. Grammar =
> expressivity. Replace sensible grammar rules with "ok, whatever"  
> and you
> limit people's ability to say *exactly* what they mean.
>
> By the way, I'm not jumping on Gene here, or whoever wrote the  
> original
> sentence - gramnmar is tough, time is short, and jargon happens. But
> remember Gandhi - be the lexical change you want to see in the world!
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First Soviet Citizen: Comrade, what kind of a day is it for you?
Second Soviet Citizen: Average. Worse than yesterday, better than  
tomorrow.
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some really hard things to digest

[Whites]

More mouse-driven Easter eggs.  This is progress??

Will White


On Mar 27, 2009, at 7:03 AM, Mike Wickham wrote:

> Klaus, when a file is open, if you hover your cursor over its  
> filename tab,
> the full path will pop up. This doesn't work for book files, but  
> the book
> file path is listed at the top of the tree within the book file. It  
> would be
> a nice feature to add such a popup when hovering over filenames  
> within the
> book file.
>
> Mike Wickham
>

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First Soviet Citizen: Comrade, what kind of a day is it for you?
Second Soviet Citizen: Average. Worse than yesterday, better than  
tomorrow.
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Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9

[Whites]

Am I correct in concluding that there are not yet patches to fix the  
keyboard shortcut bugs (F8 and F9 to assign character and paratags)?  
These are astounding bugs in what used to be a couple of the most  
useful tools in FM.  Do any of the Adobe developers ever even bother  
to use their own software?  Where was QC on this??

Right now I find myself in the sad position of using Word for  
documents I would normally do in FM.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if the development of FM-9  
was offshored?

Will White
Monrovia CA




On May 7, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Jenny Greenleaf wrote:

> I've seen that one too.
>
> I've also had repeated crashes when trying to delete variables from a
> Frame 7 template. It's done it several times. Prior to that, I can
> click on a variable name, but the confirmation dialog references a
> different one.
>
> I save a lot.
>
> Jenny
>
> On May 7, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Madeleine r Dimond wrote:
>
>> I've noticed that the Paragraph Designer does stick, though where  
>> I've
>> noticed it is when I try to call the Commands list. I click, and
>> nothing
>> happens. At some point the keyboard shortcuts quit working too, and
>> eventually I shut down and restart, unless it crashes first.
>>
>> I'm running stand-alone FM 9 with the first patch on Windows XP SP2.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Madeleine
>>
>>
>> Susan Corcoran wrote on 05/07/2009 02:00:01 AM:
>>
>>> --
>>> Hello fellow Framers,
>>>
>>> I've upgraded to FM9 recently and I've found an odd quirk.  I
>>> wonder if
>>> anyone else has seen the paragraph designer get stuck on a single
>>> panel?
>>> I can be working along just fine, and suddenly the paragraph  
>>> designer
>>> refuses to switch views between Basic, Default Font, Pagination,
>>> etc.  I
>>> can get the dropdown list of tags, but cannot change the tag  
>>> name.  I
>>> can get rid of the panel or pod, but each time I bring up paragraph
>>> designer, it's still stuck.  Occasionally I can fix this by closing
>>> and
>>> reopening the doc, but more often I have to restart FrameMaker.  I
>>> work
>>> with it in both structured and unstructured and it has happened with
>>> both.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else seen this or know what could cause it?
>>> I'm running FM9 through Tech Comm Suite on Windows XP.
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First Soviet Citizen: Comrade, what kind of a day is it for you?
Second Soviet Citizen: Average. Worse than yesterday, better than  
tomorrow.
++

FM9 Crashes

[Whites]

IIRC it's a personal/local dictionary problem. There was a thread on this 
recently.
I think if you delete your personal dictionary it will solve the problem.
Same thing happened to me several month back.
I don't recall what caused the corruption.
Another bit of buggery in FM9.

Will White

On Aug 3, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Bob Smith wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> A problem has just started on FM9. It does not start. The logo screen starts, 
> the progess bar gets to localization and then stops with an internal error 
> message.
> 
> I have uninstalled FM9 and reinstalled it. Same error.
> 
> I have plenty of space on the C: drive, and have run check disk. All my other 
> applications seem to be running correctly.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bob 
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"The end result is that a critical mass of influential people 
  in world affairs who once held high hopes for the president 
  have begun to wonder whether they misjudged the man."
   -  Mort Zuckerman on Barack Obama - 6/18/2010
+

Fwd: FM Nasty Crash during Localization

[Whites]

All -
This is a message I sent a few months ago to other FM users in the company 
(after wasting several hours of my and IT's time on reinstallation).


> 
> 
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 1:15 PM
> To: :ITHelpDesk
> 
>  
> After reinstallation FM crashed again.  I tracked down this posting about the 
> error number:

>> Problem
>> The following internal error occurs during the Localization process of the 
>> program initialization (that is, the FrameMaker 9 start-up), and then you 
>> can no longer access the program.
>> 
>> "Internal Error 9004, 6919244, 9675646,0. Framemaker has detected a serious 
>> problem and must quit."
>> 
>> Solution
>> The Dictionary is corrupted. Rename the "C:\Documents and 
>> Settings\<$username>\Application Data\Adobe\Linguistics" directory and 
>> relaunch FrameMaker. (For example, rename the Linguistics directory in this 
>> folder to Linguistics1.)

>  
> 
>  
> Thot this might be of interest to y?all in the future.
>  
> I found this at forums.adobe.com and searched on the error number.
>  
> After doing this FM launched OK.
> Big mystery is how the dictionary became corrupt by itself.  The last thing I 
> recall doing that might be related was checking the spelling on ?occurrence?.
>  
> Anyway, searching the adobe site for info on error messages might spare you 
> the unnecessary effort of a reinstall.
>  
Will White

+++
Frink: Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, don't 
   touch it, but I predict that within 100 years, computers 
   will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so 
   expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will 
   own them.
Apu:   Could it be used for dating?
+++

Plug for Imposition

[Whites]

Howdy Framers -

Anyone know of a plugin that does imposition on Frame files??

TIA

Will White



"Shoplifting is a victimless crime.
  Like punching someone in the dark."
 - Nelson Muntz

Frame on the Mac

[Whites]

On Jul 24, 2010, at 6:50 AM, Dr Rick Smith wrote:

> In any case, let me ask how others are running PC versions of Frame on the 
> Mac. For a while I wondered why so many people still use Frame 7, but I 
> assume it's because lots of people still run it on a Mac. 

Not the case. I use Frame 7 on a PC and a Mac for personal stuff.

I prefer Frame 7 because I find the Frame 9 interface cloying, annoying, a 
strain on the eyes and harder to use.   

I presume the new FM9 look and the pods were designed by fashionable people in 
Adobe marketing and corporate graphics with little or no user feedback before 
it was dumped on the market.

I realize that SW companies need a revenue stream.  I would be much happier 
paying an annual fee for using solid SW (even after purchasing it) rather than 
endure new releases with added features of marginal value and tarted up 
interfaces. 

This remark holds for MS as well as Adobe.

Will White - obviously disaffected FM9 user

+++
Frink: Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, don't 
   touch it, but I predict that within 100 years, computers 
   will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so 
   expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will 
   own them.
Apu:   Could it be used for dating?
+++

Splash Screen

[Whites]

Howdy All

I'm unhappily using FM9 on XP.
Any theories why my Updates option is grayed out?  Several days ago I  
had the corrupted dictionary file event.
Reinstalled FM, renamed the dictionaly file. FM launches, but Adobe  
PDF virtual printer is gone (and won't reinstall) and the Updates  
option is disabled.

Seems also that last time I checked the Adobe downloads site for FM  
was unavailable.

Any suggestions welcome.

Will White
Monrovia CA

>

+++
Frink: Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, don't
touch it, but I predict that within 100 years, computers
will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so
expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will
own them.
Apu:   Could it be used for dating?
+++

Change color of interface

[Whites]

Be that as it may, Adobe's desire for conformity should not deprive  
users of the ability to set their own color schemes. Just a little  
matter of user control that the Adobe mandarins of design seem  
unwilling to surrender.

That said, it would be a welcome addition to the entire Windows  
interface to allow users to assign different color schemes to  
different apps.  I would like to be able to distinguish my FM windows  
from my Visio or Excel or what have you by color instead of all apps  
being presented in a tuberculous ward gray.

So yes, IMHO the CS splash screens are now uniformly pathetically ugly.

Will White
Monrovia CA

>
> Lou Martindale wrote:
>
>
>
>> Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on  
>> all
>> suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try  
>> adjusting
>> the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier  
>> to read.
>> I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was  
>> Adobe
>> thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate  
>> look.
>
>
> I'm sure it relates to the fact that Adobe flagship products (which  
> generate some 75% of their revenue if I remember the numbers from an  
> Adobe annual report) are applications for generating and  
> manipulating graphics and images, where you don't want the color of  
> GUI elements to affect the perception of the colors of the graphics  
> being worked on. GUI neutrality is necessary for those kinds of  
> tools; and since it doesn't really matter for text-oriented apps,  
> consistency won out.
>
> -Fred Ridder
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Frink: Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, don't
touch it, but I predict that within 100 years, computers
will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so
expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will
own them.
Apu:   Could it be used for dating?
+++

ePublisher question

[Whites]

Hi Framers -
After a hiatus of a couple of years I have gotten back into doing  
projects in FM/Quadralay.
First - can you suggest a good WebWorks user group?
Second - how does one create a brand new skin/theme in ePublisher?
I've tried to follow the rather convoluted description in the  
ePublisher Help about alternative Targets and Formats directories,  
but my customizations do not seem to be taking effect.
All suggestions welcomed.
Will White


>

++
There is something fascinating about science.
One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain
++

missing Marker dialog

[Whites]

Am I the only one who fights this "On the Screen" battle two dozen  
times a day??
I seems that XP squirrels dialogs and windows off screen at an  
alarming rate.
Maybe some clever person can come up with a script that pulls  
EVERYTHING to the center of the screen. It would make me a happy camper.

will white

On Jul 26, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Dennis Davideit wrote:

> Thank you Ian. The Alt-space, m, arrow-key maneuver
> worked, pulling the errant dialog back onto the
> visible screen. I have never been so glad to see a
> Marker dialog box.

++
There is something fascinating about science.
One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain
++

Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared

[Whites]

Hi Dennis -
I've followed this with interest because I am plagued with the same  
issue (and so are others I work with). It's not a problem with FM,  
it's a bug/flaw in the Windows desktop - at least in XP.
Let's assume you work with the Windows toolbar (or tray, or whatever  
you call it) at the bottom of the screen and you have it set to  
"Always in front".
If you grab a window/dialog/whatever by the strip above the title bar  
and drag it to the very bottom of the screen, you still have control  
of it even when the top of the window is behind the toolbar. When you  
drop it, the window/dialog/whatever is hidden behind the toolbar and  
is irretrievable except by the alt + space, m trick. This is a bug in  
the Windows desktop design.  Rather than fix it by not allowing you  
to drag the top of a window completely behind the toolbar, MS offers  
a couple of options - (1) Autohide tool bar - (extremely annoying,  
IMHO), (2) keep toolbar in back (better, but then you hide the  
toolbar with your document rather than the other way around), (3)  
move the toolbar to one of the sides (not so good since I usually  
want to preserve as much screen width as possible, or (4) put toolbar  
at top (I've just recently started doing this). In the last case, you  
can still move the very top of your document/window/dialog/whatever  
behind the toolbar, but it's obviously not hidden when you drop it -  
just not grabbable. Time for alt + space, m.

If you have every used a Mac with OS-X, you'll note that the toolbar  
has a transparency setting, so you can tell if anything is lurking  
behind the toolbar. Moveover, MacOS will _not_ allow you to drag and  
drop the top of your document behind the toolbar. As soon as you drop  
it, the OS-X repositions the top of the doc just above the toolbar.  
Problem solved.  Now if we could just get Adobe to support FM on OS-X.

Don't know how this problem is dealt with on Vista - I'll check it  
out in about 5 years.

Will White
(writing from home on a Mac)

++
There is something fascinating about science.
One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain
++

Translation question

[Whites]

I count about 2 1/2 people for each language -not counting the training.

The 1/2 is the type who has experience with translation projects and  
knows the technology who dejargonizes the English original to ease  
the translation process..

Then there is the translator in the home country (Korea) who has been  
educated in Korean in the technology. (Thus, no literature grads  
translating electronics docs.)

Finally, the American-based counterpart who reads Korean and who can  
verify that everything is in place.

My experience is that local "resources" who know the technology but  
haven't been educated in the home country generally suffer from  
severe linguistic corruption (Chinglish, Spanglish, or whatever the  
equivalent would be for Korean and Japanese).  And the people who  
know the technology but who are not professional translators just let  
too much slip through the cracks.

Sorry for your VP - but if it's going to be done right, it'll cost  
some serious bucks - especially for the first few docs.

will white

On Mar 16, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:

> Guys,
>
> A VP at my company wants to hire a person whose main job functions are
> the following:
>
> Translate technical writing docs to Korean
> Train the Korean FSE's on the procedures in the docs.
>
> He also wants the same position for Japanese.
>
> Any idea the type of salary this person would command? Know anyone who
> qualifies?
>
> He thinks this would be cheaper than using a translation house  
> since we
> have thousands of procedures that need translation and more efficient
> since the person would also be a trainer.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> 
>
> Gillian Flato
>
> Technical Writer (Software)
>
> nanometrics
>
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>
> Milpitas, CA. 95035
>
> (408.435.9600 x 316
>
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>
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> 
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++
There is something fascinating about science.
One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain
++

OT: Tech Writers & Wikis

[Whites]

For starters, to the guy at SFSU trying to learn how to write, take  
another run at that sentence: "I am writing a white paper for my  
class, and I'm searching for writers
who use wikis."

I've been asked before what I thought about wikis in a software  
documentation environment. I suspect that the only reason  
Anarchipedia works at all is because there exists a large population  
of educated types who are willing to contribute and who are able to  
do so because they are writing their entries on someone else's  
nickel. Probably university souls who would otherwise be preparing  
lectures or grading some of the few papers that students still claim  
to write. Or maybe they are just avoiding their tedious chores.

I'm dubious that folks in most development environments have the  
leisure to dawdle around in a wiki when they have their own workloads  
to get through. Or am I misunderstanding the charm of a wiki? It  
sounds like a mechanism to convince other people to do my work.

will white

On Mar 18, 2007, at 5:51 PM, Diane Gaskill wrote:

> I am writing a white paper for my class, and I'm searching for writers
> that use wikis.

++
There is something fascinating about science.
One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain
++

NagGram

[Whites]

 From the tenor of a lot of the recent postings here, I can only  
conclude that a lot of folks out there are not reading the FM Manual.  
At all.
My suggestion is to keep a copy of the FM manual handy for bedroom --  
or bathroom -- reading.
And don't forget the Quick Reference Card.
It is, you know, permissible to browse the Manual by itself, just for  
reference and elucidation.
It's amazing what you can learn.

will white
One Lambda, Inc.

On Mar 29, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Kelley West wrote:

>

++
There is something fascinating about science.
One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain
++

Bug: FrameMaker 8 changes dash \= in paragraph numbering of FM 7 MIF

[Whites]

I believe that using a numeric space in an autonumber will also cause  
ePP to crash.

Will White

On Nov 16, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
>
> Yes. I noticed this em space problem also with
> the running HF variables. (Already posted.)
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Sarah O'Keefe [mailto:okeefe at scriptorium.com]
>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 2:38 PM
>> To: Reng, Dr. Winfried; framers at frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: Bug: FrameMaker 8 changes dash \= in paragraph
>> numbering of
>> FM 7 MIF
>>
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> We are noticing a similar problem related to autonumbering
>> even without
>> the MIF conversion you describe.
>>
>> For instance:
>>
>> 1. Define a paragraph autonumber that includes an em space (\sm) and
>> some text. (Note:\sm)
>> 2. Reopen the paragraph designer and change only the autonumber text
>> (change "Note" to "Tip").
>> Notice that the \sm turns into something weird and renders as a ?? in
>> your document.
>>
>> There appears to be a problem with special characters that
>> are inserted
>> with a backslash (\).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sarah O'Keefe
>>
>> Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Our translation agency uses Trados, which cannot
>>> handle FM 8 files yet. Therefore I converted everything
>>> to FM 7 MIF files (new option in Save As). When I got
>>> the files back, I noticed that the dashes which I defined
>>> in the paragraph numbering to mark the list items are
>>> exchanged by: '??
>>> In FM 7 in the paragraph designer I had: \t\=\t
>>>   (it's a second level list).
>>> In the FM 8 binary file this was changed to: \t-\t
>>>   In the file the dash is displayed correctly.
>>> When I open a MIF 7.0 file this was changed to: \t'??\t
>>>   (paragraph designer)
>>> In the FM file of this MIF 7.0 file the numbering is
>>>   displayed as: square??tab
>>>   (the square is here a character which FM cannot display)
>>>
>>> We use Univers (non-Unicode). And that's probably the
>>> reason. But still FM should not convert the dash.
>>>
>>> This is no problem with MIF 8.0 files. FM 8 opened
>>> also FM 7 binary files with this list numbering correctly.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Winfried
>> -- 
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>> ##
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There's the right way and the wrong way.
Then there's my way - which is like the wrong way, but faster.
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Spelling dictionary

[Whites]

Hello All -

How does one embed a non-breaking blank space in the site dictionary?
I'd like to add "Red Hat" with space and also prevent it breaking at  
the end of the line. My brief poking around in the manual did not  
make my any wiser. Any solution appreciated.

Will White


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One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain
++

radical revamping of techpubs

[Whites]

Amen.


On Oct 31, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Peter Gold wrote:

> I've been deleting messages on this thread for some time because  
> it's not
> relevant to me.

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One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain
++

Site Dictionary

[Whites]

Howdy All -
I'd like to make an entry in my site dictionary to define the name  
"Red Hat" with embedded space so that both parts would always stay  
together and wrap if need be.  Using the old stand-by "\ " (backslash  
+ space) between "Red" and "Hat" in the site dictionary definitions  
doesn't seem to do the trick.  I know I can do a find and replace  
with a hard space and take care of the problem manually, but I would  
be interested in a more elegant solution.
Would ASCII code for the hard space do the trick?
I'm spamming the group rather than just experimenting since I feel  
that others might like to know the answer.
TIA
Will White
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One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain
++

Microsoft XP support

[Whites]

Yes -
Guilty until proven innocent.

Will White

On Apr 29, 2008, at 9:05 AM, Dan Gallagher wrote:

> What irks me the most about vista is the overhead required to run  
> it. Why
> should I be forced to have a dual processor mega-RAM pc? I don't  
> need that
> with XP. I use an old pc for replicating/archiving my digital  
> pictures.
> It's running XP and is only a 500mhz PIII with 768mb of RAM and it  
> works
> very well. Forget using that pc with vista! I imagine it would crawl.
>
> It's my understanding that the vista overhead is required due to the
> encryption in between system components. To me that's nonsense. I'm  
> not
> going to steal copyrighted material and shouldn't be penalized because
> some do.
>
> Cheers,
> Dan--Ft. Lauderdale
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Frame 8 trial woes

[Whites]

Recently (in Frame 7.2) I had a large book with 50+ chapters, minimal  
graphics and a total page count of only about 300. I could not  
generate a PDF of the whole thing in one shot. I ended up making PDFs  
in thirds, then assembling the parts in Acrobat. A hassle, to be  
sure. FM was able to generate a complete TOC and index of the beast,  
but not a unitary PDF.


will white
monrovia ca


On Dec 22, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Emily Berk wrote:

> I have gone through and saved every chapter individually to
> PDF.  Every single one generated ok.
>
> But then when I try to gen the PDF, it only creates a text file that
> says that it fails on page 49.
>
> Sigh.
>
> This is a HUGE doc.
>
> -- Emily
>
> At 02:21 PM 12/22/2008, Emily Berk wrote:
>> Yeah, there might be some psychotic graphics somewhere.
>>
>> I'm not really familiar with the doc, since I only have seen it for
>> a few hours.
>>
>> I will try to create each chapter into its own PDF as a
>> start.  Thanks for the suggestions.
>>
>> It's only time, and -- I read this on a Celestial Seasonings teabag
>> tag:  "When God created time, he created enough of it."  Not that I
>> don't have a bunch of other ways I might want to spend the unlimited
>> time I have.
>>
>> -- Emily
>>
>> At 01:59 PM 12/22/2008, Alan Litchfield wrote:
>>> Timing :(
>>>
>>> First thing I would look for is a corrupt/badly formed graphic file.
>>> If you have any graphics in any specific chapter files, that is.
>>>
>>> So what I'd do:
>>> 1, Try to print each chapter to ps (not direct to pdf) then manually
>>> distill them using Acrobat and see which one(s) fail.
>>> 2, When it/they fail in Acrobat you will see which pages  
>>> successfully
>>> completed. The offending graphic(s) will be on the next page
>>> somewhere. You will also get an error log generated, although
>>> sometimes the messages can be somewhat cryptic unless you know what
>>> you are reading.
>>> 3, Remove the suspect(s) and repeat steps 1 and 2 until the file(s)
>>> complete successfully.
>>> 4, Replace or repair the graphics files accordingly.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, if the FM 8 files are operating without  
>>> incident on
>>> the source machine and the problem only surfaces on your machine, or
>>> files that have been exported for use on your machine, then are they
>>> using any plug ins that you do not have?
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On 23/12/2008, at 10:43 AM, Emily Berk wrote:
>>>
 One of my colleagues is working for a company that is using  
 Frame 8.

 He was having some problems generating a PDF, and, guess what --  
 his
 doc is due today.

 First thing he tried was to export his book and all its chapters to
 Frame 7.  I was not able to read a single one.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS
>>> AlphaByte
>>> PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140
>>> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Emily Berk
>> http://www.armadillosoft.com
>
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> http://www.armadillosoft.com
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Automatic way of changing the case of words

[Whites]

Hello All -

What I would like to see is a quickie way to generate intercaps (or  
CamelCase, or whatever one wants to call it):  a fourth option that  
would first capitalize the selected string (like ctrt+alt, c), then  
strip out the spaces between the words. That would be lovely.

will white
Monrovia CA


On Dec 30, 2008, at 12:56 AM, Avraham Makeler wrote:

> Thanks, all. Great!
>
> avi
>
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Avraham Makeler  
>  wrote:
>
>>  Hi all,
>>
>> Is there an automatic way of changing the case of words, e.g., by  
>> using a
>> shortcut key to 'toggle' a word through upper case, mixed case,  
>> and lower
>> case?
>>
>> Tia,
>>
>>
>> avraham
>>
>>
>>
>

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Index question

[Whites]

Hi Framers
Using FM7.2 and WinXP
I thought this would be easy, but . . .
I'm making an index of names. Rather than have the index list the  
chapter and page with the usual <$chapnum>-<$pagenum> variables in  
the reference page index setup, I want the index to show which  
heading they appear under (i.e. which section of the chapter) since I  
don't really care about the exact page. When I use <$paranumonly 
[Heading1]> variable in the reference page I get no number at all in  
the index, just a hyperlink.  Is there some reason why this shouldn't  
work?


TIA for any suggestions

Will White
ViaLogy LLC
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There's the right way and the wrong way.
Then there's my way - which is like the wrong way, but faster.
+++

More to: Printing Booklet from Adobe Acrobat

[Whites]

On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:37 PM, William White wrote:

> Hi All ?
> Using Adobe Acrobat Standard 8.0, FM7.2, Win XP and outputting to  
> an HP1320 duplex printer.
> I want to print a little booklet that will be 12 or 16 pages long.
> I?ve set up the FM document to be 5.5 x 7.5 so I can use regular  
> letter paper.
> Everything converts nicely into  PDF using the Adobe PDF printer  
> then Distiller.
> I?m able to rearrange the pdf pages in Acrobat Standard so the  
> pages back up in the proper order for the booklet ? a trivial  
> imposition in something this small.
> Problem is, when I print the booklet two up in landscape and  
> duplex, each page is only about 3 5/16 inches wide and 5 inches  
> deep instead of 5.5 x 7.5? in other words, the page takes up only  
> about 2/3s of the area that it should.
> When I print simplex the size is correct.
> There are about a zillion settings in the Acrobat print dialogs.
> Anyone have any theories why Acrobat is shrinking my pages?
>
> All suggestions welcomed.
> Will White
> ViaLogy LLC

Should have been clearer - when I print simplex, one up portrait, the  
size is correct.
The problem might be moot because I _can_ print the booklet using the  
handy  Foxit pdf reader.
So what's with Acrobat??

Will White again

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Is there a way to paste text as default?

[Whites]

Here's the mystery -
Running 7.2 on XP, sp2. I only have the one maker.ini (the one in the  
Program Files folder). I did a search through the entire C drive for  
the second one.  Nothing shows up. Of course, when I move the TEXT  
option to the head of the list in the Program Files file, it doesn't  
change how the paste function works.  Any hints where my other  
maker.ini might be lurking??

will white

On Mar 5, 2008, at 4:14 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:

> Hi Marta,
>
> In the maker.ini file change the order of formats
> for ClipboardFormatsPriorities, so that TEXT comes
> first. Newer FM versions have 2 maker.ini files,
> one in the Program Files folder and one in your
> personal folder.
>
> This change in the maker.ini file works only for text
> which you copied in another application. If you want
> to paste FM text, you should use additional utilities
> which strip the formatting info.
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
>> Berman, Marta
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:57 AM
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Is there a way to paste text as default?
>>
>>  Is there a way to set the default paste option in FrameMaker
>>  to Text  (so that I don't have to use Paste Special > Text) ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Marta Berman
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Dialog box annoyance

[Whites]

Hello All

Using FM 7.1/7,2 on Win XP sp2.

I'm able to resize any dialog box in FM to any arbitrary size - even  
much larger or smaller than the active region within the dialog. (I'm  
not being very descriptive here.) Say the active region (entry  
fields, lists, etc) is 2 x 3. I can extend the dialog to some absurd  
size, say 7 x 9, leaving large ugly blank areas to the right and  
bottom of the active area.
My recollection was that this did not happen back on FM5.5 on the  
Mac, but seems to be current standard misbehavior on the PC. This  
happens on  two different PCs, one running 7.1 the other 7.2/
Just an aesthetic thing, but annoying.
Can this be fixed in some configuration file?

Will White
ViaLogy LLC

+++
There's the right way and the wrong way.
Then there's my way - which is like the wrong way, but faster.
+++

Dialog box annoyance

[Whites]

Hi Stuart

Any specifics on the changes that should be made, or would they be  
obvious to one of my P++ conversant buddies?

Will

On Mar 7, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote:

> Whites wrote:
>> Hello All
>> Using FM 7.1/7,2 on Win XP sp2.
>> I'm able to resize any dialog box in FM to any arbitrary size -  
>> even  much larger or smaller than the active region within the  
>> dialog. (I'm  not being very descriptive here.) Say the active  
>> region (entry  fields, lists, etc) is 2 x 3. I can extend the  
>> dialog to some absurd  size, say 7 x 9, leaving large ugly blank  
>> areas to the right and  bottom of the active area.
>> My recollection was that this did not happen back on FM5.5 on the   
>> Mac, but seems to be current standard misbehavior on the PC. This   
>> happens on  two different PCs, one running 7.1 the other 7.2/
>> Just an aesthetic thing, but annoying.
>> Can this be fixed in some configuration file?
>
> Hi Will,
>
> I can't speak for the situation on the Mac past or present, but  
> what you need to do on a PC is download ResourceHacker and make  
> permanent changes to FM's dialog boxes by modifying fmdlg.dll in  
> the fminit folder.
>
> http://www.angusj.com/resourcehacker/
>
> (You will, of course, remember to back up fmdlg.dll first, won't  
> you...)
>
>
> -- 
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> Toronto, ON, Canada
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
>
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>
> I'll stop saying Microsoft is arrogant when
> Windows stops saying "Welcome" and instead asks "May I?"
>

+++
There's the right way and the wrong way.
Then there's my way - which is like the wrong way, but faster.
+++

site down

[Whites]

On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Bill Swallow wrote:

> It's been down for months. But never fear, it'll be back up
> "Monday"... We just don't know which Monday yet. ;-)
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:49 AM, bryan johnson
>  wrote:
>>

Re: which Monday -

Back in the Good Old Days in the early 70s I spent a year in People's  
Poland.
They used the Soviet method of telling time then:

When someone said "right away", it meant "tomorrow";
when he said "tomorrow", it meant "Monday";
And when he said "Monday", it meant "never".

will white
vialogy llc
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Large FM File

[Whites]

Asa -
Is sounds like you are accommodating your vendor rather than the  
other way around.
If your localization vendor is so inflexible, time to start shopping  
for another vendor.

At least, that's how I see it.

will white
vialogy llc

On May 2, 2008, at 7:06 AM, ?sa Johansson wrote:

> I can only think of one thing and that is that our localisation  
> cost would drop if we only had one big file instead of several.  
> This is because the tool our localisation company uses for  
> analysing 100% matches cannot handle book files, only individual  
> files. That means that if the file name changes or text is moved  
> from one file to another (which happens quite a lot with our files  
> unfortunately), the tool can no longer identify the text as  
> previously translated and therefore the translator has to review  
> the text again and charge for it. The cost for reviewing the 100%  
> matches can be very high.
>
> But I guess it is a better idea to stop changing file names and  
> moving around text than merging all FM files into one. ;-)
>
> /?sa
>
>
>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:32:50 -0400
>> From: "Neil Tubb" 
>> Subject: Large FM File
>> To: 
>> Message-ID:
>>  
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Just a quick question- can anyone tell me why putting your entire  
>> 300+
>> page manual into one FM file would make sense? I was always taught  
>> that
>> splitting it out one file per chapter was the safest and best way  
>> to go,
>> but I've just seen an example of the one large file approach. Does
>> anyone else do this? Just curious.
>>
>>
>>
>> Neil
>>
>
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Converting to Word

[Whites]

Besides all of the good advice that you will have gotten about how to  
deal with the documents, have you considered looking at the job  
listings at Monster and similar sites? There must be other places to  
work besides the Kite Factory.
w white

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>
>  I have a small set of documents that I wish to convert to Microsoft
> Word format. They are work instructions with graphics attached - no
> external links. I have tried the Save as technique and it just  
> locks up
> Framemaker.
>
> Short of retyping the documents does anybody know of a way to convert
> them to MS Word. We are not allowed to purchase outside software or
> plugins to make the process easier.
>
> \God forbid we do something that makes us more efficient. That's
> sarcasm.
>
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Of Templates and Legacy Docs

[Whites]

Jim -
So my understanding is that the company you work for will not spring  
for $200 for SW that will end up saving you dozens of hours of grunt  
work and the company possibly thousands of dollars in your salary.
"For discussion's sake," let's say buy Template Mapper with your own  
funds, use it for this project, and uninstall it when you leave to go  
to a wiser and less penurious employer.
Unless your children are truly going to do without milk and shoes,  
I'd say spend the $200.

Feeling rather grumpy this Friday afternoon,

Will White
ViaLogy LLC

On May 23, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Pinkham, Jim wrote:

> Hello, all --
>
> I've just spent a couple of days getting our standard manual template
> tweaked and polished and localized from its timeworn Germanic origins
> (we inherited from our corporate parent across the pond). Now the task
> is to begin applying the template to new docs that are often based  
> upon
> old manuals that used the old template. Looks like Template Mapper  
> would
> be perfect for the task, but let's assume that no matter how wise and
> cost-effective and practical it might be, that $200 is not an  
> option in
> the near future. So let's not go there. We'll just postulate that's a
> good idea, and leave it at that. For discussion's sake, this is a $0
> project.
>
> The question is this: Just using the normal set of tools that comes  
> with
> Frame (7.1 on Windows XP SP-2), and possibly freeware, what is the
> fastest, most effective way to migrate a new template into old  
> docs. Am
> I doomed to paragraph-by-paragraph, table-by-table, and cell-by-cell
> transformations? Or are there better alternatives?
>
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Barcode font

[Whites]

Hi Framers -
Anyone out in FrameLandia know of a barcode font? There doesn't  
appear to be one in the usual Windoze offering (or I am not looking  
in the right places).
Any advice appreciated.

Will White
ViaLogy LLC



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Barcode font revisited - it's really just zip codes that I'm after

[Whites]

Hi Stuart et al.
Thanks for the responses.
What I'm really looking for is just a way to generate zip-codes - not  
the entire UPC barcode paraphernalia.
(It would have helped if I had done a little research before making  
my first posting. Doh!)
Back in the System 7 days I used to have an old Seiko label printer  
that would automatically generate the Postnet zip-code on its own  
line when I entered the zipcode numerals. but I've never been able to  
locate ssoftware to run it on OSX  or XP.
Some little FrameMaker plug-in like that would be nifty if it exists.

TIA
Will White
ViaLogy





On May 26, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote:

> Whites wrote:
>> Hi Framers -
>> Anyone out in FrameLandia know of a barcode font? There doesn't   
>> appear to be one in the usual Windoze offering (or I am not  
>> looking  in the right places).
>> Any advice appreciated.
>
> Uh, try googling "barcode font"?  You'll get about two million hits...
>
> HTH,



>
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>
> srogers phoenix-geophysics com
>
> "A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?"
>
> --another Rogers Original

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Searching in text insets

[Whites]

Today, from within the main document, I searched on a string in a  
text inset and was surprised to find that the FM search function did  
not find it.
Am I being obtuse (happens a lot) or is this the way things are  
supposed to be?
Any help will be appreciated.

will white
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Do they give a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?
Do they?  - Sideshow Bob
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The Page Left Intentionally Blank

[Whites]

Isn't there also a matter of aethetics? An empty chapter end page  
consisting only on a header and a footer is, in my estimation, an  
eyesore and an embarrassment.

will white
++
There is something fascinating about science.
One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain
++

Nasty X-Refs

[Whites]

I just spend best part of an afternoon searching for a broken X-ref  
that, IMHO, should never have existed. I'm updating a document that  
has been through many hands (of various degrees of incompetence). As  
always when I inherit a doc, I start a new Book file from scratch and  
add chapters to it bit but bit. This time, however, there existed a  
statement in the Book file .mif  that referenced an earlier  
incarnation of one of the files, using the old filename (one I had  
never linked to, etc) and a paragraph tag that I never used (but that  
the earlier users apparently had).
Anyone know of a utility that can diagnosis a Book to see if it  
contains X-refs to files not in the book and paragraph tags not in  
any of the files??

Any light shed will be appreciated.

will white
+
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Do they give a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?
Do they?  - Sideshow Bob
+

Quick Access Bar and Security

[Whites]

Running FM 1.2 on XP.
I have several user account set up. When I run FM from the Admin  
account, the Quick Access Bar is enabled. When I run from an ordinary  
user account, it is disabled. I
suspect this is a security issue. What do I need to do as an Admin to  
set things up so the QAB works for ordinary users?

Any help greatly appreciated.

will white
one lambda, inc
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One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
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++

Quick Access Bar and Security

[Whites]

oops - just woke up from nap.
FM Version number should be 7.1.  However, same problem noted on  
install for ordinary user on 7.2.

will white

On Apr 6, 2007, at 3:52 PM, Whites wrote:

> Running FM 1.2 on XP.
> I have several user account set up. When I run FM from the Admin  
> account, the Quick Access Bar is enabled. When I run from an  
> ordinary user account, it is disabled. I
> suspect this is a security issue. What do I need to do as an Admin  
> to set things up so the QAB works for ordinary users?
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.
>
> will white
> one lambda, inc
> ++
> There is something fascinating about science.
> One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
> out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain
> ++
>
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Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared

[Whites]

On Jul 31, 2007, at 11:55 PM, Fred Ridder wrote:

> Alternative #5 is to leave the taskbar (its official name, BTW)
[Thanks for the correction. I had the feeling that I was not using  
the proper term.]

> unlocked
> at at its normal bottom of the window position, but to grab its top
> edge and "window-shade" it down to its minimum height (just a few
> pixels--only big enough to allow you to grab the edge again when you
> want to restore the taskbar) if you have dropped any FrameMaker
> window with its title bar concealed behind the taskbar. Then when
> you need the taskbar again, just grab its top edge and window-shade
> it back to the desired height (1-row, 2-row, whatever). Takes almost
> no time and minimal effort.

I might give this a try if I get tired of the taskbar being at the  
top of the window. However, it involves more use of the mouse - which  
I try to minimize.
I would still welcome some clever person coming up with a "force to  
center" option in FM. On the other hand, once one knows of the  
workarounds, the cruddy implementation of taskbar behavior in XP is  
no big deal.



will white

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Running Structured Frame 7.2/8 on Macbook Pro under OS 10/Parallels

[Whites]

That might not be just a Parallels thingy.   For the longest time I  
have had to click twice in FM 7.x on XP in dropdown lists in  
dialogs.  Once to populate the dropdown, the second time to generate  
a scroll bar.  Am I alone?  A minor aggro - but still.

will white

On Aug 7, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Pat Christenson wrote:

> I've been running Frame 7.2 under Parallels on a MacBook Pro for  
> about 6 months. I've only encountered a few gotchas. You have to  
> get used to using "Mac" keys for "Windows" shortcuts (and you can  
> avoid a lot of that if you use the Esc shortcuts which work just  
> about anywhere). There's a kind of funky thing with dropdown menus.  
> I have to click the menu twice - once to "select" it and once to  
> display the choices.

++
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One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain
++

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

[Whites]

Hello All -

How does such a monstrous bug like a nonfunctionng F0-9 sequences get  
past QA?  Don't any of the developers USE the software?
Stupid question. I've worked in a number of software houses and the  
answer is, sadly, "They don't".
In the meantime, I won't even think of 'upgrading' to FM8.

Will White


On Dec 2, 2007, at 8:20 AM, Alan Houser wrote:

> The FrameMaker 8 keyboard shortcut issue is particularly frustrating.
> It's not just F9; it's all of the ctrl/F[0-9] shortcuts (element
> operations, conditional text, variables, character and paragraph
> formats). Using these shortcuts can dramatically improve a writer's
> productivity using FrameMaker, and minimize reliance on the mouse.
>
> In FM8, the shortcuts "time out", at an apparently random interval.
> Often the shortcut time-out is almost immediate. These keyboard
> shortcuts are nearly unusable in FM8.
>
> I would also be interested in hearing whether anybody does _not_
> experience this problem with FrameMaker 8, or if there is a work- 
> around.
>
> -Alan
>
> Diane Gaskill wrote:
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> Yes, it was free. :-)  But they did not fix everything.  I still have
>> problems with my F9 key when trying to use keyboard shortcuts.   
>> the tag list
>> does not stay in the field as it should.   This is real problem  
>> because I
>> rely on the shortcuts for all kinds of things.  Not being able to  
>> use th F9
>> key is a real productivity slowdown.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a workaround that will make the F9 key behave?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Diane
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Bug: FrameMaker 8 changes dash \= in paragraph numbering of FM 7 MIF

[Whites]

Hello All -
This is not just in FM 8.0
The bug exists to some extent in 7.2 as well,  and it is a pickle  
other ways. Recently I inadvertently included a numeric space in an  
autonumber and ePP 9.2 totally choked on it.
As to FM 7.2 and non-breaking hyphens in autonumbers, I've resorted  
to replacing them with periods - after I discovered that FM was  
changing the non-breaking hyphens into n-dashes - so now I have, for  
example, Fig. 9.2 rather than Fig. 9?2. (Before the bug FM used to  
give me Fig. 9-2).  It's amazing how little the readers care (or  
notice) the change.
Still, it would be nice to get what one asks for.

Will White
ViaLogy LLC


On Dec 13, 2007, at 12:46 AM, Shlomo Perets wrote:

> Sarah O'Keefe wrote:
>
>> We are noticing a similar problem related to autonumbering even  
>> without
>> the MIF conversion you describe.
>>
>> For instance:
>>
>> 1. Define a paragraph autonumber that includes an em space (\sm) and
>> some text. (Note:\sm)
>> 2. Reopen the paragraph designer and change only the autonumber text
>> (change "Note" to "Tip").
>> Notice that the \sm turns into something weird and renders as a ?? in
>> your document.
>>
>> There appears to be a problem with special characters that are  
>> inserted
>> with a backslash (\).
>
>
> The problem seems to be present in all text fields in dialog boxes
> (variables, cross-references, pgf numbering, markers), with the
> backslash sequences  for a non-breaking hyphen (\+) and special
> spaces (\sm, \sn, \st, \s#) .
>
> When the dialog box definition is updated, a question mark appear in
> the document instead of the special character.
>
> To fix the problem, you need to edit the text in the dialog box
> (delete the box character and insert the backslash sequence again).
>
>
> Shlomo Perets
>
> MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
> Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
>
>

+++
There's the right way and the wrong way.
Then there's my way - which is like the wrong way, but faster.
+++

Hidden frame

[Whites]

It might be humorous - and informative at the same time - if some  
Framer were to make a compilation of such horror stories. Being made  
aware of bad practices can be helpful - even to those of us who are  
(we hope) less incompetent.

My favorites were a pair of manuals I inherited from a colleague who  
complained incessantly about the "bugs" in FrameMaker. She was  
maintaining two completely separate 100-page manuals, identical in  
every respect except for the fact that the file paths in one  
contained backslashes for Windows users and the other contained  
forward slashes for Unix. And just to make the two manuals more  
laborious to maintain, EVERY index entry sported a pair of directly  
adjacent markers - one for <$startrange> and the other for < 
$endrange>.  When this particular writer left the company after a  
downsizing, I inherited the books in her office. Not surprisingly,  
her FrameMaker manual had never been opened.

I think it is very common for software users to rise just to the  
level of competence where they can do their tasks and never progress  
beyond that level.

Will White
One Lambda Inc


On Feb 6, 2007, at 1:24 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:

>
> Its author has seriously not 'got' the idea behind master pages. It  
> left me wondering how much of the 'FrameMaker is antiquated'  
> arguments stem from this sort of level of misunderstanding about  
> how an application works.
>
> -- 
> Steve

Plug for Imposition

[Whites]

Howdy Framers -

Anyone know of a plugin that does imposition on Frame files??

TIA

Will White



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Re: Frame on the Mac

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On Jul 24, 2010, at 6:50 AM, Dr Rick Smith wrote:

> In any case, let me ask how others are running PC versions of Frame on the 
> Mac. For a while I wondered why so many people still use Frame 7, but I 
> assume it's because lots of people still run it on a Mac. 

Not the case. I use Frame 7 on a PC and a Mac for personal stuff.

I prefer Frame 7 because I find the Frame 9 interface cloying, annoying, a 
strain on the eyes and harder to use.   

I presume the new FM9 look and the pods were designed by fashionable people in 
Adobe marketing and corporate graphics with little or no user feedback before 
it was dumped on the market.

I realize that SW companies need a revenue stream.  I would be much happier 
paying an annual fee for using solid SW (even after purchasing it) rather than 
endure new releases with added features of marginal value and tarted up 
interfaces. 

This remark holds for MS as well as Adobe.

Will White - obviously disaffected FM9 user

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   will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so 
   expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will 
   own them.
Apu:   Could it be used for dating?
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Re: FM9 Crashes

[Whites]

IIRC it's a personal/local dictionary problem. There was a thread on this 
recently.
I think if you delete your personal dictionary it will solve the problem.
Same thing happened to me several month back.
I don't recall what caused the corruption.
Another bit of buggery in FM9.

Will White

On Aug 3, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Bob Smith wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> A problem has just started on FM9. It does not start. The logo screen starts, 
> the progess bar gets to localization and then stops with an internal error 
> message.
> 
> I have uninstalled FM9 and reinstalled it. Same error.
> 
> I have plenty of space on the C: drive, and have run check disk. All my other 
> applications seem to be running correctly.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Fwd: FM Nasty Crash during Localization

[Whites]

All -
This is a message I sent a few months ago to other FM users in the company 
(after wasting several hours of my and IT's time on reinstallation).


> 
> 
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 1:15 PM
> To: :ITHelpDesk
> 
>  
> After reinstallation FM crashed again.  I tracked down this posting about the 
> error number:

>> Problem
>> The following internal error occurs during the Localization process of the 
>> program initialization (that is, the FrameMaker 9 start-up), and then you 
>> can no longer access the program.
>> 
>> "Internal Error 9004, 6919244, 9675646,0. Framemaker has detected a serious 
>> problem and must quit."
>> 
>> Solution
>> The Dictionary is corrupted. Rename the "C:\Documents and 
>> Settings\<$username>\Application Data\Adobe\Linguistics" directory and 
>> relaunch FrameMaker. (For example, rename the Linguistics directory in this 
>> folder to Linguistics1.)

>  
> 
>  
> Thot this might be of interest to y’all in the future.
>  
> I found this at forums.adobe.com and searched on the error number.
>  
> After doing this FM launched OK.
> Big mystery is how the dictionary became corrupt by itself.  The last thing I 
> recall doing that might be related was checking the spelling on “occurrence”.
>  
> Anyway, searching the adobe site for info on error messages might spare you 
> the unnecessary effort of a reinstall.
>  
Will White

+++
Frink: Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, don't 
   touch it, but I predict that within 100 years, computers 
   will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so 
   expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will 
   own them.
Apu:   Could it be used for dating?
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ePublisher question

[Whites]

Hi Framers -
After a hiatus of a couple of years I have gotten back into doing  
projects in FM/Quadralay.

First - can you suggest a good WebWorks user group?
Second - how does one create a brand new skin/theme in ePublisher?
I've tried to follow the rather convoluted description in the  
ePublisher Help about alternative Targets and Formats directories,  
but my customizations do not seem to be taking effect.

All suggestions welcomed.
Will White






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Re: missing Marker dialog

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Am I the only one who fights this "On the Screen" battle two dozen  
times a day??
I seems that XP squirrels dialogs and windows off screen at an  
alarming rate.
Maybe some clever person can come up with a script that pulls  
EVERYTHING to the center of the screen. It would make me a happy camper.


will white

On Jul 26, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Dennis Davideit wrote:


Thank you Ian. The Alt-space, m, arrow-key maneuver
worked, pulling the errant dialog back onto the
visible screen. I have never been so glad to see a
Marker dialog box.


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RE: Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared

[Whites]

Hi Dennis -
I've followed this with interest because I am plagued with the same  
issue (and so are others I work with). It's not a problem with FM,  
it's a bug/flaw in the Windows desktop - at least in XP.
Let's assume you work with the Windows toolbar (or tray, or whatever  
you call it) at the bottom of the screen and you have it set to  
"Always in front".
If you grab a window/dialog/whatever by the strip above the title bar  
and drag it to the very bottom of the screen, you still have control  
of it even when the top of the window is behind the toolbar. When you  
drop it, the window/dialog/whatever is hidden behind the toolbar and  
is irretrievable except by the alt + space, m trick. This is a bug in  
the Windows desktop design.  Rather than fix it by not allowing you  
to drag the top of a window completely behind the toolbar, MS offers  
a couple of options - (1) Autohide tool bar - (extremely annoying,  
IMHO), (2) keep toolbar in back (better, but then you hide the  
toolbar with your document rather than the other way around), (3)  
move the toolbar to one of the sides (not so good since I usually  
want to preserve as much screen width as possible, or (4) put toolbar  
at top (I've just recently started doing this). In the last case, you  
can still move the very top of your document/window/dialog/whatever  
behind the toolbar, but it's obviously not hidden when you drop it -  
just not grabbable. Time for alt + space, m.


If you have every used a Mac with OS-X, you'll note that the toolbar  
has a transparency setting, so you can tell if anything is lurking  
behind the toolbar. Moveover, MacOS will _not_ allow you to drag and  
drop the top of your document behind the toolbar. As soon as you drop  
it, the OS-X repositions the top of the doc just above the toolbar.  
Problem solved.  Now if we could just get Adobe to support FM on OS-X.


Don't know how this problem is dealt with on Vista - I'll check it  
out in about 5 years.


Will White
(writing from home on a Mac)

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Re: Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared

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On Jul 31, 2007, at 11:55 PM, Fred Ridder wrote:


Alternative #5 is to leave the taskbar (its official name, BTW)
[Thanks for the correction. I had the feeling that I was not using  
the proper term.]



unlocked
at at its normal bottom of the window position, but to grab its top
edge and "window-shade" it down to its minimum height (just a few
pixels--only big enough to allow you to grab the edge again when you
want to restore the taskbar) if you have dropped any FrameMaker
window with its title bar concealed behind the taskbar. Then when
you need the taskbar again, just grab its top edge and window-shade
it back to the desired height (1-row, 2-row, whatever). Takes almost
no time and minimal effort.


I might give this a try if I get tired of the taskbar being at the  
top of the window. However, it involves more use of the mouse - which  
I try to minimize.
I would still welcome some clever person coming up with a "force to  
center" option in FM. On the other hand, once one knows of the  
workarounds, the cruddy implementation of taskbar behavior in XP is  
no big deal.




will white

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Re: Running Structured Frame 7.2/8 on Macbook Pro under OS 10/Parallels

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That might not be just a Parallels thingy.   For the longest time I  
have had to click twice in FM 7.x on XP in dropdown lists in  
dialogs.  Once to populate the dropdown, the second time to generate  
a scroll bar.  Am I alone?  A minor aggro - but still.


will white

On Aug 7, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Pat Christenson wrote:

I've been running Frame 7.2 under Parallels on a MacBook Pro for  
about 6 months. I've only encountered a few gotchas. You have to  
get used to using "Mac" keys for "Windows" shortcuts (and you can  
avoid a lot of that if you use the Esc shortcuts which work just  
about anywhere). There's a kind of funky thing with dropdown menus.  
I have to click the menu twice - once to "select" it and once to  
display the choices.


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Site Dictionary

[Whites]

Howdy All -
I'd like to make an entry in my site dictionary to define the name  
"Red Hat" with embedded space so that both parts would always stay  
together and wrap if need be.  Using the old stand-by "\ " (backslash  
+ space) between "Red" and "Hat" in the site dictionary definitions  
doesn't seem to do the trick.  I know I can do a find and replace  
with a hard space and take care of the problem manually, but I would  
be interested in a more elegant solution.

Would ASCII code for the hard space do the trick?
I'm spamming the group rather than just experimenting since I feel  
that others might like to know the answer.

TIA
Will White
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Spelling dictionary

[Whites]

Hello All -

How does one embed a non-breaking blank space in the site dictionary?
I'd like to add "Red Hat" with space and also prevent it breaking at  
the end of the line. My brief poking around in the manual did not  
make my any wiser. Any solution appreciated.


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Re: radical revamping of techpubs

[Whites]

Amen.


On Oct 31, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Peter Gold wrote:

I've been deleting messages on this thread for some time because  
it's not

relevant to me.


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Re: Bug: FrameMaker 8 changes dash \= in paragraph numbering of FM 7 MIF

[Whites]

I believe that using a numeric space in an autonumber will also cause  
ePP to crash.

Will White

On Nov 16, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
>
> Yes. I noticed this em space problem also with
> the running HF variables. (Already posted.)
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Sarah O'Keefe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 2:38 PM
>> To: Reng, Dr. Winfried; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Bug: FrameMaker 8 changes dash \= in paragraph
>> numbering of
>> FM 7 MIF
>>
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> We are noticing a similar problem related to autonumbering
>> even without
>> the MIF conversion you describe.
>>
>> For instance:
>>
>> 1. Define a paragraph autonumber that includes an em space (\sm) and
>> some text. (Note:\sm)
>> 2. Reopen the paragraph designer and change only the autonumber text
>> (change "Note" to "Tip").
>> Notice that the \sm turns into something weird and renders as a ?? in
>> your document.
>>
>> There appears to be a problem with special characters that
>> are inserted
>> with a backslash (\).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sarah O'Keefe
>>
>> Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Our translation agency uses Trados, which cannot
>>> handle FM 8 files yet. Therefore I converted everything
>>> to FM 7 MIF files (new option in Save As). When I got
>>> the files back, I noticed that the dashes which I defined
>>> in the paragraph numbering to mark the list items are
>>> exchanged by: 'Äì
>>> In FM 7 in the paragraph designer I had: \t\=\t
>>>   (it's a second level list).
>>> In the FM 8 binary file this was changed to: \t-\t
>>>   In the file the dash is displayed correctly.
>>> When I open a MIF 7.0 file this was changed to: \t'Äì\t
>>>   (paragraph designer)
>>> In the FM file of this MIF 7.0 file the numbering is
>>>   displayed as: squareÄìtab
>>>   (the square is here a character which FM cannot display)
>>>
>>> We use Univers (non-Unicode). And that's probably the
>>> reason. But still FM should not convert the dash.
>>>
>>> This is no problem with MIF 8.0 files. FM 8 opened
>>> also FM 7 binary files with this list numbering correctly.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Winfried
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

[Whites]

Hello All -

How does such a monstrous bug like a nonfunctionng F0-9 sequences get  
past QA?  Don't any of the developers USE the software?
Stupid question. I've worked in a number of software houses and the  
answer is, sadly, "They don't".
In the meantime, I won't even think of 'upgrading' to FM8.

Will White


On Dec 2, 2007, at 8:20 AM, Alan Houser wrote:

> The FrameMaker 8 keyboard shortcut issue is particularly frustrating.
> It's not just F9; it's all of the ctrl/F[0-9] shortcuts (element
> operations, conditional text, variables, character and paragraph
> formats). Using these shortcuts can dramatically improve a writer's
> productivity using FrameMaker, and minimize reliance on the mouse.
>
> In FM8, the shortcuts "time out", at an apparently random interval.
> Often the shortcut time-out is almost immediate. These keyboard
> shortcuts are nearly unusable in FM8.
>
> I would also be interested in hearing whether anybody does _not_
> experience this problem with FrameMaker 8, or if there is a work- 
> around.
>
> -Alan
>
> Diane Gaskill wrote:
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> Yes, it was free. :-)  But they did not fix everything.  I still have
>> problems with my F9 key when trying to use keyboard shortcuts.   
>> the tag list
>> does not stay in the field as it should.   This is real problem  
>> because I
>> rely on the shortcuts for all kinds of things.  Not being able to  
>> use th F9
>> key is a real productivity slowdown.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a workaround that will make the F9 key behave?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Diane
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Re: Bug: FrameMaker 8 changes dash \= in paragraph numbering of FM 7 MIF

[Whites]

Hello All -
This is not just in FM 8.0
The bug exists to some extent in 7.2 as well,  and it is a pickle  
other ways. Recently I inadvertently included a numeric space in an  
autonumber and ePP 9.2 totally choked on it.
As to FM 7.2 and non-breaking hyphens in autonumbers, I've resorted  
to replacing them with periods - after I discovered that FM was  
changing the non-breaking hyphens into n-dashes - so now I have, for  
example, Fig. 9.2 rather than Fig. 9–2. (Before the bug FM used to  
give me Fig. 9-2).  It's amazing how little the readers care (or  
notice) the change.
Still, it would be nice to get what one asks for.

Will White
ViaLogy LLC


On Dec 13, 2007, at 12:46 AM, Shlomo Perets wrote:

> Sarah O'Keefe wrote:
>
>> We are noticing a similar problem related to autonumbering even  
>> without
>> the MIF conversion you describe.
>>
>> For instance:
>>
>> 1. Define a paragraph autonumber that includes an em space (\sm) and
>> some text. (Note:\sm)
>> 2. Reopen the paragraph designer and change only the autonumber text
>> (change "Note" to "Tip").
>> Notice that the \sm turns into something weird and renders as a ?? in
>> your document.
>>
>> There appears to be a problem with special characters that are  
>> inserted
>> with a backslash (\).
>
>
> The problem seems to be present in all text fields in dialog boxes
> (variables, cross-references, pgf numbering, markers), with the
> backslash sequences  for a non-breaking hyphen (\+) and special
> spaces (\sm, \sn, \st, \s#) .
>
> When the dialog box definition is updated, a question mark appear in
> the document instead of the special character.
>
> To fix the problem, you need to edit the text in the dialog box
> (delete the box character and insert the backslash sequence again).
>
>
> Shlomo Perets
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Index question

[Whites]

Hi Framers
Using FM7.2 and WinXP
I thought this would be easy, but . . .
I'm making an index of names. Rather than have the index list the  
chapter and page with the usual <$chapnum>-<$pagenum> variables in  
the reference page index setup, I want the index to show which  
heading they appear under (i.e. which section of the chapter) since I  
don't really care about the exact page. When I use <$paranumonly 
[Heading1]> variable in the reference page I get no number at all in  
the index, just a hyperlink.  Is there some reason why this shouldn't  
work?


TIA for any suggestions

Will White
ViaLogy LLC
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Re: Is there a way to paste text as default?

[Whites]

Here's the mystery -
Running 7.2 on XP, sp2. I only have the one maker.ini (the one in the  
Program Files folder). I did a search through the entire C drive for  
the second one.  Nothing shows up. Of course, when I move the TEXT  
option to the head of the list in the Program Files file, it doesn't  
change how the paste function works.  Any hints where my other  
maker.ini might be lurking??

will white

On Mar 5, 2008, at 4:14 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:

> Hi Marta,
>
> In the maker.ini file change the order of formats
> for ClipboardFormatsPriorities, so that TEXT comes
> first. Newer FM versions have 2 maker.ini files,
> one in the Program Files folder and one in your
> personal folder.
>
> This change in the maker.ini file works only for text
> which you copied in another application. If you want
> to paste FM text, you should use additional utilities
> which strip the formatting info.
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
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>> Subject: Is there a way to paste text as default?
>>
>>  Is there a way to set the default paste option in FrameMaker
>>  to Text  (so that I don't have to use Paste Special > Text) ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Marta Berman
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Dialog box annoyance

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Hello All

Using FM 7.1/7,2 on Win XP sp2.

I'm able to resize any dialog box in FM to any arbitrary size - even  
much larger or smaller than the active region within the dialog. (I'm  
not being very descriptive here.) Say the active region (entry  
fields, lists, etc) is 2 x 3. I can extend the dialog to some absurd  
size, say 7 x 9, leaving large ugly blank areas to the right and  
bottom of the active area.
My recollection was that this did not happen back on FM5.5 on the  
Mac, but seems to be current standard misbehavior on the PC. This  
happens on  two different PCs, one running 7.1 the other 7.2/
Just an aesthetic thing, but annoying.
Can this be fixed in some configuration file?

Will White
ViaLogy LLC

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Re: Dialog box annoyance

[Whites]

Hi Stuart

Any specifics on the changes that should be made, or would they be  
obvious to one of my P++ conversant buddies?

Will

On Mar 7, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote:

> Whites wrote:
>> Hello All
>> Using FM 7.1/7,2 on Win XP sp2.
>> I'm able to resize any dialog box in FM to any arbitrary size -  
>> even  much larger or smaller than the active region within the  
>> dialog. (I'm  not being very descriptive here.) Say the active  
>> region (entry  fields, lists, etc) is 2 x 3. I can extend the  
>> dialog to some absurd  size, say 7 x 9, leaving large ugly blank  
>> areas to the right and  bottom of the active area.
>> My recollection was that this did not happen back on FM5.5 on the   
>> Mac, but seems to be current standard misbehavior on the PC. This   
>> happens on  two different PCs, one running 7.1 the other 7.2/
>> Just an aesthetic thing, but annoying.
>> Can this be fixed in some configuration file?
>
> Hi Will,
>
> I can't speak for the situation on the Mac past or present, but  
> what you need to do on a PC is download ResourceHacker and make  
> permanent changes to FM's dialog boxes by modifying fmdlg.dll in  
> the fminit folder.
>
> http://www.angusj.com/resourcehacker/
>
> (You will, of course, remember to back up fmdlg.dll first, won't  
> you...)
>
>
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Re: Microsoft XP support

[Whites]

Yes -
Guilty until proven innocent.

Will White

On Apr 29, 2008, at 9:05 AM, Dan Gallagher wrote:

> What irks me the most about vista is the overhead required to run  
> it. Why
> should I be forced to have a dual processor mega-RAM pc? I don't  
> need that
> with XP. I use an old pc for replicating/archiving my digital  
> pictures.
> It's running XP and is only a 500mhz PIII with 768mb of RAM and it  
> works
> very well. Forget using that pc with vista! I imagine it would crawl.
>
> It's my understanding that the vista overhead is required due to the
> encryption in between system components. To me that's nonsense. I'm  
> not
> going to steal copyrighted material and shouldn't be penalized because
> some do.
>
> Cheers,
> Dan--Ft. Lauderdale
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Re: site down

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On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Bill Swallow wrote:

> It's been down for months. But never fear, it'll be back up
> "Monday"... We just don't know which Monday yet. ;-)
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:49 AM, bryan johnson
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>>

Re: which Monday -

Back in the Good Old Days in the early 70s I spent a year in People's  
Poland.
They used the Soviet method of telling time then:

When someone said "right away", it meant "tomorrow";
when he said "tomorrow", it meant "Monday";
And when he said "Monday", it meant "never".

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Re: Large FM File

[Whites]

Asa -
Is sounds like you are accommodating your vendor rather than the  
other way around.
If your localization vendor is so inflexible, time to start shopping  
for another vendor.

At least, that's how I see it.

will white
vialogy llc

On May 2, 2008, at 7:06 AM, Åsa Johansson wrote:

> I can only think of one thing and that is that our localisation  
> cost would drop if we only had one big file instead of several.  
> This is because the tool our localisation company uses for  
> analysing 100% matches cannot handle book files, only individual  
> files. That means that if the file name changes or text is moved  
> from one file to another (which happens quite a lot with our files  
> unfortunately), the tool can no longer identify the text as  
> previously translated and therefore the translator has to review  
> the text again and charge for it. The cost for reviewing the 100%  
> matches can be very high.
>
> But I guess it is a better idea to stop changing file names and  
> moving around text than merging all FM files into one. ;-)
>
> /Åsa
>
>
>
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>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:32:50 -0400
>> From: "Neil Tubb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Large FM File
>> To: 
>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Just a quick question- can anyone tell me why putting your entire  
>> 300+
>> page manual into one FM file would make sense? I was always taught  
>> that
>> splitting it out one file per chapter was the safest and best way  
>> to go,
>> but I've just seen an example of the one large file approach. Does
>> anyone else do this? Just curious.
>>
>>
>>
>> Neil
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Re: Converting to Word

[Whites]

Besides all of the good advice that you will have gotten about how to  
deal with the documents, have you considered looking at the job  
listings at Monster and similar sites? There must be other places to  
work besides the Kite Factory.
w white

On May 22, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Dodd, Frank J wrote:

>
>  I have a small set of documents that I wish to convert to Microsoft
> Word format. They are work instructions with graphics attached - no
> external links. I have tried the Save as technique and it just  
> locks up
> Framemaker.
>
> Short of retyping the documents does anybody know of a way to convert
> them to MS Word. We are not allowed to purchase outside software or
> plugins to make the process easier.
>
> \God forbid we do something that makes us more efficient. That's
> sarcasm.
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Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs

[Whites]

Jim -
So my understanding is that the company you work for will not spring  
for $200 for SW that will end up saving you dozens of hours of grunt  
work and the company possibly thousands of dollars in your salary.
"For discussion's sake," let's say buy Template Mapper with your own  
funds, use it for this project, and uninstall it when you leave to go  
to a wiser and less penurious employer.
Unless your children are truly going to do without milk and shoes,  
I'd say spend the $200.

Feeling rather grumpy this Friday afternoon,

Will White
ViaLogy LLC

On May 23, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Pinkham, Jim wrote:

> Hello, all --
>
> I've just spent a couple of days getting our standard manual template
> tweaked and polished and localized from its timeworn Germanic origins
> (we inherited from our corporate parent across the pond). Now the task
> is to begin applying the template to new docs that are often based  
> upon
> old manuals that used the old template. Looks like Template Mapper  
> would
> be perfect for the task, but let's assume that no matter how wise and
> cost-effective and practical it might be, that $200 is not an  
> option in
> the near future. So let's not go there. We'll just postulate that's a
> good idea, and leave it at that. For discussion's sake, this is a $0
> project.
>
> The question is this: Just using the normal set of tools that comes  
> with
> Frame (7.1 on Windows XP SP-2), and possibly freeware, what is the
> fastest, most effective way to migrate a new template into old  
> docs. Am
> I doomed to paragraph-by-paragraph, table-by-table, and cell-by-cell
> transformations? Or are there better alternatives?
>
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Barcode font

[Whites]

Hi Framers -
Anyone out in FrameLandia know of a barcode font? There doesn't  
appear to be one in the usual Windoze offering (or I am not looking  
in the right places).
Any advice appreciated.

Will White
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Re: Barcode font revisited - it's really just zip codes that I'm after

[Whites]

Hi Stuart et al.
Thanks for the responses.
What I'm really looking for is just a way to generate zip-codes - not  
the entire UPC barcode paraphernalia.
(It would have helped if I had done a little research before making  
my first posting. Doh!)
Back in the System 7 days I used to have an old Seiko label printer  
that would automatically generate the Postnet zip-code on its own  
line when I entered the zipcode numerals. but I've never been able to  
locate ssoftware to run it on OSX  or XP.
Some little FrameMaker plug-in like that would be nifty if it exists.

TIA
Will White
ViaLogy





On May 26, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote:

> Whites wrote:
>> Hi Framers -
>> Anyone out in FrameLandia know of a barcode font? There doesn't   
>> appear to be one in the usual Windoze offering (or I am not  
>> looking  in the right places).
>> Any advice appreciated.
>
> Uh, try googling "barcode font"?  You'll get about two million hits...
>
> HTH,



>
> -- 
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> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> Toronto, ON, Canada
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
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>
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>
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More to: Printing Booklet from Adobe Acrobat

[Whites]

On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:37 PM, William White wrote:

> Hi All –
> Using Adobe Acrobat Standard 8.0, FM7.2, Win XP and outputting to  
> an HP1320 duplex printer.
> I want to print a little booklet that will be 12 or 16 pages long.
> I’ve set up the FM document to be 5.5 x 7.5 so I can use regular  
> letter paper.
> Everything converts nicely into  PDF using the Adobe PDF printer  
> then Distiller.
> I’m able to rearrange the pdf pages in Acrobat Standard so the  
> pages back up in the proper order for the booklet – a trivial  
> imposition in something this small.
> Problem is, when I print the booklet two up in landscape and  
> duplex, each page is only about 3 5/16 inches wide and 5 inches  
> deep instead of 5.5 x 7.5– in other words, the page takes up only  
> about 2/3s of the area that it should.
> When I print simplex the size is correct.
> There are about a zillion settings in the Acrobat print dialogs.
> Anyone have any theories why Acrobat is shrinking my pages?
>
> All suggestions welcomed.
> Will White
> ViaLogy LLC

Should have been clearer - when I print simplex, one up portrait, the  
size is correct.
The problem might be moot because I _can_ print the booklet using the  
handy  Foxit pdf reader.
So what's with Acrobat??

Will White again

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Re: Frame 8 trial woes

[Whites]

Recently (in Frame 7.2) I had a large book with 50+ chapters, minimal  
graphics and a total page count of only about 300. I could not  
generate a PDF of the whole thing in one shot. I ended up making PDFs  
in thirds, then assembling the parts in Acrobat. A hassle, to be  
sure. FM was able to generate a complete TOC and index of the beast,  
but not a unitary PDF.


will white
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On Dec 22, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Emily Berk wrote:

> I have gone through and saved every chapter individually to
> PDF.  Every single one generated ok.
>
> But then when I try to gen the PDF, it only creates a text file that
> says that it fails on page 49.
>
> Sigh.
>
> This is a HUGE doc.
>
> -- Emily
>
> At 02:21 PM 12/22/2008, Emily Berk wrote:
>> Yeah, there might be some psychotic graphics somewhere.
>>
>> I'm not really familiar with the doc, since I only have seen it for
>> a few hours.
>>
>> I will try to create each chapter into its own PDF as a
>> start.  Thanks for the suggestions.
>>
>> It's only time, and -- I read this on a Celestial Seasonings teabag
>> tag:  "When God created time, he created enough of it."  Not that I
>> don't have a bunch of other ways I might want to spend the unlimited
>> time I have.
>>
>> -- Emily
>>
>> At 01:59 PM 12/22/2008, Alan Litchfield wrote:
>>> Timing :(
>>>
>>> First thing I would look for is a corrupt/badly formed graphic file.
>>> If you have any graphics in any specific chapter files, that is.
>>>
>>> So what I'd do:
>>> 1, Try to print each chapter to ps (not direct to pdf) then manually
>>> distill them using Acrobat and see which one(s) fail.
>>> 2, When it/they fail in Acrobat you will see which pages  
>>> successfully
>>> completed. The offending graphic(s) will be on the next page
>>> somewhere. You will also get an error log generated, although
>>> sometimes the messages can be somewhat cryptic unless you know what
>>> you are reading.
>>> 3, Remove the suspect(s) and repeat steps 1 and 2 until the file(s)
>>> complete successfully.
>>> 4, Replace or repair the graphics files accordingly.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, if the FM 8 files are operating without  
>>> incident on
>>> the source machine and the problem only surfaces on your machine, or
>>> files that have been exported for use on your machine, then are they
>>> using any plug ins that you do not have?
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On 23/12/2008, at 10:43 AM, Emily Berk wrote:
>>>
 One of my colleagues is working for a company that is using  
 Frame 8.

 He was having some problems generating a PDF, and, guess what --  
 his
 doc is due today.

 First thing he tried was to export his book and all its chapters to
 Frame 7.  I was not able to read a single one.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS
>>> AlphaByte
>>> PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140
>>> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Emily Berk
>> http://www.armadillosoft.com
>
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> http://www.armadillosoft.com
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Re: Automatic way of changing the case of words

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Hello All -

What I would like to see is a quickie way to generate intercaps (or  
CamelCase, or whatever one wants to call it):  a fourth option that  
would first capitalize the selected string (like ctrt+alt, c), then  
strip out the spaces between the words. That would be lovely.

will white
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On Dec 30, 2008, at 12:56 AM, Avraham Makeler wrote:

> Thanks, all. Great!
>
> avi
>
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Avraham Makeler  
>  wrote:
>
>>  Hi all,
>>
>> Is there an automatic way of changing the case of words, e.g., by  
>> using a
>> shortcut key to 'toggle' a word through upper case, mixed case,  
>> and lower
>> case?
>>
>> Tia,
>>
>>
>> avraham
>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: some really hard things to digest

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More mouse-driven Easter eggs.  This is progress??

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On Mar 27, 2009, at 7:03 AM, Mike Wickham wrote:

> Klaus, when a file is open, if you hover your cursor over its  
> filename tab,
> the full path will pop up. This doesn't work for book files, but  
> the book
> file path is listed at the top of the tree within the book file. It  
> would be
> a nice feature to add such a popup when hovering over filenames  
> within the
> book file.
>
> Mike Wickham
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Re: Today's exercise in misunderstanding English

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I'm completely in agreeance.
"Updation" strikes me as a perfectly cromulent word.

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On Apr 24, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote:

> Sigh...  Selected the wrong list email when I sent this!!!  Sorry,
> everyone.
>
> (FWIW, this was all about someone finding the word "updation" in some
> outsourced programming files. And the fact that the word has been  
> around
> and in use for the past decade or so... )
>
> TGIF is all I can say.
>
> -Carla
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek,
> Carla
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:31 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Today's exercise in misunderstanding English
>
> Forsooth, and if thy language dost ne'er evolv'd, henceforth thee
> wouldst speaketh as the ancient Bard. Verily, the words of man must
> changeth and groweth as the seasons change -- looketh upon all the
> wordings which the Bard hast introduc'd into our speech. Woulds't thou
> changeth all that?
>
> -Carla
> (with apologies, but since yesterday was "Talk Like Shakespeare  
> Day" in
> Chicago...)
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: techwr-l-bounces+cmartinek=zebra@lists.techwr-l.com
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> Behalf Of Handy, David
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 7:02 AM
> To: Gene Kim-Eng; techw...@lists.techwr-l.com
> Subject: RE: Today's exercise in misunderstanding English
>
> Buck it, Gene - buck it!
>
> This isn't just a matter of a new word gatecrashing the dictionary.  
> This
> is key grammar.
>
> The number of people who think that legalized bad grammar is a portent
> of a crumbling civilization is kinda small, but it includes me; and if
> we writers don't jump up and down about this, nobody will. Grammar =
> expressivity. Replace sensible grammar rules with "ok, whatever"  
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> limit people's ability to say *exactly* what they mean.
>
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> original
> sentence - gramnmar is tough, time is short, and jargon happens. But
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Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9

[Whites]

Am I correct in concluding that there are not yet patches to fix the  
keyboard shortcut bugs (F8 and F9 to assign character and paratags)?  
These are astounding bugs in what used to be a couple of the most  
useful tools in FM.  Do any of the Adobe developers ever even bother  
to use their own software?  Where was QC on this??

Right now I find myself in the sad position of using Word for  
documents I would normally do in FM.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if the development of FM-9  
was offshored?

Will White
Monrovia CA




On May 7, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Jenny Greenleaf wrote:

> I've seen that one too.
>
> I've also had repeated crashes when trying to delete variables from a
> Frame 7 template. It's done it several times. Prior to that, I can
> click on a variable name, but the confirmation dialog references a
> different one.
>
> I save a lot.
>
> Jenny
>
> On May 7, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Madeleine r Dimond wrote:
>
>> I've noticed that the Paragraph Designer does stick, though where  
>> I've
>> noticed it is when I try to call the Commands list. I click, and
>> nothing
>> happens. At some point the keyboard shortcuts quit working too, and
>> eventually I shut down and restart, unless it crashes first.
>>
>> I'm running stand-alone FM 9 with the first patch on Windows XP SP2.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Madeleine
>>
>>
>> Susan Corcoran wrote on 05/07/2009 02:00:01 AM:
>>
>>> --
>>> Hello fellow Framers,
>>>
>>> I've upgraded to FM9 recently and I've found an odd quirk.  I
>>> wonder if
>>> anyone else has seen the paragraph designer get stuck on a single
>>> panel?
>>> I can be working along just fine, and suddenly the paragraph  
>>> designer
>>> refuses to switch views between Basic, Default Font, Pagination,
>>> etc.  I
>>> can get the dropdown list of tags, but cannot change the tag  
>>> name.  I
>>> can get rid of the panel or pod, but each time I bring up paragraph
>>> designer, it's still stuck.  Occasionally I can fix this by closing
>>> and
>>> reopening the doc, but more often I have to restart FrameMaker.  I
>>> work
>>> with it in both structured and unstructured and it has happened with
>>> both.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else seen this or know what could cause it?
>>> I'm running FM9 through Tech Comm Suite on Windows XP.
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Re: Splash Screen

[Whites]

Howdy All

I'm unhappily using FM9 on XP.
Any theories why my Updates option is grayed out?  Several days ago I  
had the corrupted dictionary file event.
Reinstalled FM, renamed the dictionaly file. FM launches, but Adobe  
PDF virtual printer is gone (and won't reinstall) and the Updates  
option is disabled.


Seems also that last time I checked the Adobe downloads site for FM  
was unavailable.


Any suggestions welcome.

Will White
Monrovia CA





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Re: Change color of interface

[Whites]

Be that as it may, Adobe's desire for conformity should not deprive  
users of the ability to set their own color schemes. Just a little  
matter of user control that the Adobe mandarins of design seem  
unwilling to surrender.


That said, it would be a welcome addition to the entire Windows  
interface to allow users to assign different color schemes to  
different apps.  I would like to be able to distinguish my FM windows  
from my Visio or Excel or what have you by color instead of all apps  
being presented in a tuberculous ward gray.


So yes, IMHO the CS splash screens are now uniformly pathetically ugly.

Will White
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Lou Martindale wrote:



Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on  
all
suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try  
adjusting
the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier  
to read.
I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was  
Adobe
thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate  
look.



I'm sure it relates to the fact that Adobe flagship products (which  
generate some 75% of their revenue if I remember the numbers from an  
Adobe annual report) are applications for generating and  
manipulating graphics and images, where you don't want the color of  
GUI elements to affect the perception of the colors of the graphics  
being worked on. GUI neutrality is necessary for those kinds of  
tools; and since it doesn't really matter for text-oriented apps,  
consistency won out.


-Fred Ridder

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Nasty X-Refs

[Whites]

I just spend best part of an afternoon searching for a broken X-ref  
that, IMHO, should never have existed. I'm updating a document that  
has been through many hands (of various degrees of incompetence). As  
always when I inherit a doc, I start a new Book file from scratch and  
add chapters to it bit but bit. This time, however, there existed a  
statement in the Book file .mif  that referenced an earlier  
incarnation of one of the files, using the old filename (one I had  
never linked to, etc) and a paragraph tag that I never used (but that  
the earlier users apparently had).
Anyone know of a utility that can diagnosis a Book to see if it  
contains X-refs to files not in the book and paragraph tags not in  
any of the files??


Any light shed will be appreciated.

will white
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The Page Left Intentionally Blank

[Whites]

Isn't there also a matter of aethetics? An empty chapter end page  
consisting only on a header and a footer is, in my estimation, an  
eyesore and an embarrassment.


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Searching in text insets

[Whites]

Today, from within the main document, I searched on a string in a  
text inset and was surprised to find that the FM search function did  
not find it.
Am I being obtuse (happens a lot) or is this the way things are  
supposed to be?

Any help will be appreciated.

will white
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Re: Hidden frame

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It might be humorous - and informative at the same time - if some  
Framer were to make a compilation of such horror stories. Being made  
aware of bad practices can be helpful - even to those of us who are  
(we hope) less incompetent.


My favorites were a pair of manuals I inherited from a colleague who  
complained incessantly about the "bugs" in FrameMaker. She was  
maintaining two completely separate 100-page manuals, identical in  
every respect except for the fact that the file paths in one  
contained backslashes for Windows users and the other contained  
forward slashes for Unix. And just to make the two manuals more  
laborious to maintain, EVERY index entry sported a pair of directly  
adjacent markers - one for <$startrange> and the other for < 
$endrange>.  When this particular writer left the company after a  
downsizing, I inherited the books in her office. Not surprisingly,  
her FrameMaker manual had never been opened.


I think it is very common for software users to rise just to the  
level of competence where they can do their tasks and never progress  
beyond that level.


Will White
One Lambda Inc


On Feb 6, 2007, at 1:24 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:



Its author has seriously not 'got' the idea behind master pages. It  
left me wondering how much of the 'FrameMaker is antiquated'  
arguments stem from this sort of level of misunderstanding about  
how an application works.


--
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Re: Translation question

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I count about 2 1/2 people for each language -not counting the training.

The 1/2 is the type who has experience with translation projects and  
knows the technology who dejargonizes the English original to ease  
the translation process..


Then there is the translator in the home country (Korea) who has been  
educated in Korean in the technology. (Thus, no literature grads  
translating electronics docs.)


Finally, the American-based counterpart who reads Korean and who can  
verify that everything is in place.


My experience is that local "resources" who know the technology but  
haven't been educated in the home country generally suffer from  
severe linguistic corruption (Chinglish, Spanglish, or whatever the  
equivalent would be for Korean and Japanese).  And the people who  
know the technology but who are not professional translators just let  
too much slip through the cracks.


Sorry for your VP - but if it's going to be done right, it'll cost  
some serious bucks - especially for the first few docs.


will white

On Mar 16, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:


Guys,

A VP at my company wants to hire a person whose main job functions are
the following:

Translate technical writing docs to Korean
Train the Korean FSE's on the procedures in the docs.

He also wants the same position for Japanese.

Any idea the type of salary this person would command? Know anyone who
qualifies?

He thinks this would be cheaper than using a translation house  
since we

have thousands of procedures that need translation and more efficient
since the person would also be a trainer.


Thank you,





Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

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Re: OT: Tech Writers & Wikis

[Whites]

For starters, to the guy at SFSU trying to learn how to write, take  
another run at that sentence: "I am writing a white paper for my  
class, and I'm searching for writers

who use wikis."

I've been asked before what I thought about wikis in a software  
documentation environment. I suspect that the only reason  
Anarchipedia works at all is because there exists a large population  
of educated types who are willing to contribute and who are able to  
do so because they are writing their entries on someone else's  
nickel. Probably university souls who would otherwise be preparing  
lectures or grading some of the few papers that students still claim  
to write. Or maybe they are just avoiding their tedious chores.


I'm dubious that folks in most development environments have the  
leisure to dawdle around in a wiki when they have their own workloads  
to get through. Or am I misunderstanding the charm of a wiki? It  
sounds like a mechanism to convince other people to do my work.


will white

On Mar 18, 2007, at 5:51 PM, Diane Gaskill wrote:


I am writing a white paper for my class, and I'm searching for writers
that use wikis.


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[Whites]

From the tenor of a lot of the recent postings here, I can only  
conclude that a lot of folks out there are not reading the FM Manual.  
At all.
My suggestion is to keep a copy of the FM manual handy for bedroom --  
or bathroom -- reading.

And don't forget the Quick Reference Card.
It is, you know, permissible to browse the Manual by itself, just for  
reference and elucidation.

It's amazing what you can learn.

will white
One Lambda, Inc.

On Mar 29, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Kelley West wrote:





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Quick Access Bar and Security

[Whites]

Running FM 1.2 on XP.
I have several user account set up. When I run FM from the Admin  
account, the Quick Access Bar is enabled. When I run from an ordinary  
user account, it is disabled. I
suspect this is a security issue. What do I need to do as an Admin to  
set things up so the QAB works for ordinary users?


Any help greatly appreciated.

will white
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Re: Quick Access Bar and Security

[Whites]

oops - just woke up from nap.
FM Version number should be 7.1.  However, same problem noted on  
install for ordinary user on 7.2.


will white

On Apr 6, 2007, at 3:52 PM, Whites wrote:


Running FM 1.2 on XP.
I have several user account set up. When I run FM from the Admin  
account, the Quick Access Bar is enabled. When I run from an  
ordinary user account, it is disabled. I
suspect this is a security issue. What do I need to do as an Admin  
to set things up so the QAB works for ordinary users?


Any help greatly appreciated.

will white
one lambda, inc
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