Re: 5.1-R and 5.1-C floppies will not boot on SuperMicro 6023P-8R

2003-11-04 Thread Stephane Raimbault
, mem:0xa 0x2
fb0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24
fb0: window:0xc00b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0 size:32k
VGA parameters upon power-up
50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81
bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 50 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96
b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c
3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff
VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24
50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81
bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96
b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c
3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff
EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24
50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81
bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96
b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c
3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff
vt0: not probed (disabled)
isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices
adv1: Invalid baseport of 0x80 specified. Nearest valid baseport is 0x100.  
Failing probe.




From: Jun Kuriyama [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Stephane Raimbault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 5.1-R and 5.1-C floppies will not boot on SuperMicro 6023P-8R
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 07:53:18 +0900
At Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:47:59 + (UTC),
Stephane Raimbault wrote:
 autoboot 10
 Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
 Booting [/kernel]...
I meant to use -v at above.  Hit any key at this 10 seconds waiting,
and type boot -v and enter at prompt.
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floppies

2003-11-03 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
anyone else having trouble with floppies?  I tried a bunch of
different disks in two different machines (5.1-CURRENT with brand new
drive, 4.9-PRERELEASE with an older but presumed-good drive) and all I
get are I/O errors; fdformat sometimes works and sometimes doesn't,
and any attempt to actually read or write data fails.

# uname -a
FreeBSD ada.des.no 4.9-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-PRERELEASE #5: Fri Sep  5 22:56:22 CEST 
2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/ada  i386
# fdformat fd0
Format 1440K floppy `/dev/fd0'? (y/n): y
Processing fdformat: ioctl(FD_FORM): Input/output error
# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/fd0c
dd: /dev/fd0c: Input/output error
1+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes transferred in 2.634334 secs (0 bytes/sec)

and the console shows:

fd0: recal failed ST0 70abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck cyl 0
last message repeated 2 times
fd0: recal failed ST0 78abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck,drive_notrdy cyl 0
fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 0 (No status)

on -CURRENT:

# fdformat fd0
Format 1440K floppy `/dev/fd0'? (y/n): y
Processing VEVV done.
Errors encountered:
Cyl Head Sect   Error
 661   12   wrong cylinder (format mismatch)

(although a previous run succeeded)

I'm having a hard time believing this is a hardware problem, although
there might conceivably be an environmental factor which affects both
systems since they are in the same room.

DES
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Re: floppies

2003-11-03 Thread Peter Schultz
No problem with formatting or writing floppies here under heavy system 
load and even though this message--fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 
3--has been output twice at boot for probably over a year.  The floppies 
I used even came from a dusty pile of old driver disks.  :-)

Pete...

Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
anyone else having trouble with floppies?  I tried a bunch of
different disks in two different machines (5.1-CURRENT with brand new
drive, 4.9-PRERELEASE with an older but presumed-good drive) and all I
get are I/O errors; fdformat sometimes works and sometimes doesn't,
and any attempt to actually read or write data fails.
# uname -a
FreeBSD ada.des.no 4.9-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-PRERELEASE #5: Fri Sep  5 22:56:22 CEST 
2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/ada  i386
# fdformat fd0
Format 1440K floppy `/dev/fd0'? (y/n): y
Processing fdformat: ioctl(FD_FORM): Input/output error
# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/fd0c
dd: /dev/fd0c: Input/output error
1+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes transferred in 2.634334 secs (0 bytes/sec)
and the console shows:

fd0: recal failed ST0 70abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck cyl 0
last message repeated 2 times
fd0: recal failed ST0 78abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck,drive_notrdy cyl 0
fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 0 (No status)
on -CURRENT:

# fdformat fd0
Format 1440K floppy `/dev/fd0'? (y/n): y
Processing VEVV done.
Errors encountered:
Cyl Head Sect   Error
 661   12   wrong cylinder (format mismatch)
(although a previous run succeeded)

I'm having a hard time believing this is a hardware problem, although
there might conceivably be an environmental factor which affects both
systems since they are in the same room.
DES


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Re: floppies

2003-11-03 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
On Monday 03 November 2003 09:50, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
 anyone else having trouble with floppies?  I tried a bunch of
 different disks in two different machines (5.1-CURRENT with brand new
 drive, 4.9-PRERELEASE with an older but presumed-good drive) and all I
 get are I/O errors; fdformat sometimes works and sometimes doesn't,
 and any attempt to actually read or write data fails.

I can confirm that. See this attached posting from 13. October 2003

-Harry



 # uname -a
 FreeBSD ada.des.no 4.9-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-PRERELEASE #5: Fri Sep  5
 22:56:22 CEST 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/ada  i386 #
 fdformat fd0
 Format 1440K floppy `/dev/fd0'? (y/n): y
 Processing fdformat: ioctl(FD_FORM): Input/output error
 # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/fd0c
 dd: /dev/fd0c: Input/output error
 1+0 records in
 0+0 records out
 0 bytes transferred in 2.634334 secs (0 bytes/sec)

 and the console shows:

 fd0: recal failed ST0 70abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck cyl 0
 last message repeated 2 times
 fd0: recal failed ST0 78abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck,drive_notrdy cyl 0
 fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 0 (No status)

 on -CURRENT:

 # fdformat fd0
 Format 1440K floppy `/dev/fd0'? (y/n): y
 Processing VEVV done.
 Errors encountered:
 Cyl Head Sect   Error
  661   12   wrong cylinder (format mismatch)

 (although a previous run succeeded)

 I'm having a hard time believing this is a hardware problem, although
 there might conceivably be an environmental factor which affects both
 systems since they are in the same room.

 DES
---BeginMessage---
Hi all,

dmesg doesn't show anything unusual but trying to mount disks known to be good 
results in mount: /dev/fd0: Input/output error.
Also fdformat does not work. It shows me every sector bad.
Btw: How can I format a floppydisk in a USB-drive? fdformat /dev/da0 doesn't 
work.
The USB-drive is fine, also is the standard floppy drive.

I'm running FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT #20: Sun Oct 12 23:31:45 CEST 2003

Thanks,

-Harry


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---End Message---


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Re: 5.1-R and 5.1-C floppies will not boot on SuperMicro 6023P-8R

2003-11-03 Thread Stephane Raimbault
 at device 2.0 (no driver attached)
pci3: network, ethernet at device 2.1 (no driver attached)
pcib4: PCIBIOS PCI-PCI bridge at device 3.0 on pci0
pci4: PCI bus on pcib4
pci4: base peripheral, interrupt controller at device 28.0 (no driver 
attached)
pcib5: PCIBIOS PCI-PCI bridge at device 29.0 on pci4
pci5: PCI bus on pcib5
pci4: base peripheral, interrupt controller at device 30.0 (no driver 
attached)
pcib6: PCIBIOS PCI-PCI bridge at device 31.0 on pci4
pci6: PCI bus on pcib6
pci_cfgintr: 6:1 INTA BIOS irq 12
asr0: Adaptec Caching SCSI RAID mem 
0xfc00-0xfdff,0xfb00-0xfbff,0xf840-0xf84f irq 12 at 
device 1.0 on pci6
asr0: major=154
asr0: ADAPTEC 2010S FW Rev. 3B05, 2 channel, 256 CCBs, Protocol I2O
uhci0: Intel 82801CA/CAM (ICH3) USB controller USB-A port 0x2000-0x201f 
irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0
usb0: Intel 82801CA/CAM (ICH3) USB controller USB-A on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1: Intel 82801CA/CAM (ICH3) USB controller USB-B port 0x2020-0x203f 
irq 10 at device 29.1 on pci0
usb1: Intel 82801CA/CAM (ICH3) USB controller USB-B on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2: Intel 82801CA/CAM (ICH3) USB controller USB-C port 0x2040-0x205f 
irq 5 at device 29.2 on pci0
usb2: Intel 82801CA/CAM (ICH3) USB controller USB-C on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pcib7: PCIBIOS PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0
pci7: PCI bus on pcib7
pci_cfgintr: 7:1 INTA BIOS irq 11
pci7: display, VGA at device 1.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: Intel ICH3 UDMA100 controller port 
0x2060-0x206f,0x374-0x377,0x170-0x177,0x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 
on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata0: [MPSAFE]
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
ata1: [MPSAFE]
pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
orm0: Option ROMs at iomem 
0xe-0xe3fff,0xdc000-0xd,0xc9000-0xcefff,0xc8000-0xc8fff,0xc-0xc7fff 
on isa0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0
fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller (i82077, NE72065 or clone) at port 
0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
ppc0: Parallel port at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold
ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0
sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x100
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A, console
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0



Thanks,
Stephane.

From: Jun Kuriyama [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Stephane Raimbault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 5.1-R and 5.1-C floppies will not boot on SuperMicro 6023P-8R
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 15:41:36 +0900
At Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:56:43 + (UTC),
Stephane Raimbault wrote:
 Does anyone have any thoughts regarding this?  I would like to get 5.1 
on
 this server.

How about trying with -v at boot?

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Re: 5.1-R and 5.1-C floppies will not boot on SuperMicro 6023P-8R

2003-11-03 Thread Jun Kuriyama
At Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:47:59 + (UTC),
Stephane Raimbault wrote:
 autoboot 10
 Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
 Booting [/kernel]...

I meant to use -v at above.  Hit any key at this 10 seconds waiting,
and type boot -v and enter at prompt.


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Re: 5.1-R and 5.1-C floppies will not boot on SuperMicro 6023P-8R

2003-10-31 Thread Stephane Raimbault
Does anyone have any thoughts regarding this?  I would like to get 5.1 on
this server.

Thank you,
Stephane Raimbault.


- Original Message - 
From: Stephane Raimbault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: mailing.freebsd.current
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: 5.1-R and 5.1-C floppies will not boot on SuperMicro 6023P-8R


 Hi,

 I'm trying to install 5.1-R or 5.1-C from floppies redirected output to =
 serial port and it won't boot to the install screen.  4.9-R floppies =
 with output redirected to serial port works and installs properly.  This =
 is what I get on my serial console when I try to boot on 5.1-C (similar =
 to 5.1-R)  seems to hang after the vga0 shows up during boot.

 Is there anything I can do or provide to resolve my install problem?

 Uncompressing ... done
   Console: serial port
 BIOS drive A: is disk0
 BIOS drive C: is disk1
 BIOS 633kB/4061120kB available memory

 FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED], Wed Oct 29 04:14:01 GMT 2003)
  include /boot/device.hints
  set hint.fdc.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.fdc.0.port=3D0x3F0
  set hint.fdc.0.irq=3D6
  set hint.fdc.0.drq=3D2
  set hint.fd.0.at=3Dfdc0
  set hint.fd.0.drive=3D0
  set hint.fd.1.at=3Dfdc0
  set hint.fd.1.drive=3D1
  set hint.ata.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.ata.0.port=3D0x1F0
  set hint.ata.0.irq=3D14
  set hint.ata.1.at=3Disa
  set hint.ata.1.port=3D0x170
  set hint.ata.1.irq=3D15
  set hint.adv.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.adv.0.disabled=3D1
  set hint.bt.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.bt.0.disabled=3D1
  set hint.aha.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.aha.0.disabled=3D1
  set hint.aic.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.aic.0.disabled=3D1
  set hint.atkbdc.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.atkbdc.0.port=3D0x060
  set hint.atkbd.0.at=3Datkbdc
  set hint.atkbd.0.irq=3D1
  set hint.atkbd.0.flags=3D0x1
  set hint.psm.0.at=3Datkbdc
  set hint.psm.0.irq=3D12
  set hint.vga.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.sc.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.sc.0.flags=3D0x100
  set hint.vt.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.vt.0.disabled=3D1
  set hint.apm.0.disabled=3D1
  set hint.apm.0.flags=3D0x20
  set hint.pcic.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.pcic.0.port=3D0x3e0
  set hint.pcic.0.maddr=3D0xd
  set hint.pcic.1.at=3Disa
  set hint.pcic.1.irq=3D11
  set hint.pcic.1.port=3D0x3e2
  set hint.pcic.1.maddr=3D0xd4000
  set hint.pcic.1.disabled=3D1
  set hint.sio.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.sio.0.port=3D0x3F8
  set hint.sio.0.flags=3D0x10
  set hint.sio.0.irq=3D4
  set hint.sio.1.at=3Disa
  set hint.sio.1.port=3D0x2F8
  set hint.sio.1.irq=3D3
  set hint.sio.2.at=3Disa
  set hint.sio.2.disabled=3D1
  set hint.sio.2.port=3D0x3E8
  set hint.sio.2.irq=3D5
  set hint.sio.3.at=3Disa
  set hint.sio.3.disabled=3D1
  set hint.sio.3.port=3D0x2E8
  set hint.sio.3.irq=3D9
  set hint.ppc.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.ppc.0.irq=3D7
  set hint.ed.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.ed.0.disabled=3D1
  set hint.ed.0.port=3D0x280
  set hint.ed.0.irq=3D10
  set hint.ed.0.maddr=3D0xd8000
  set hint.cs.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.cs.0.disabled=3D1
  set hint.cs.0.port=3D0x300
  set hint.sn.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.sn.0.disabled=3D1
  set hint.sn.0.port=3D0x300
  set hint.sn.0.irq=3D10
  set hint.ie.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.ie.0.disabled=3D1
  set hint.ie.0.port=3D0x300
  set hint.ie.0.irq=3D10
  set hint.ie.0.maddr=3D0xd
  set hint.fe.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.fe.0.disabled=3D1
  set hint.fe.0.port=3D0x300
  set hint.le.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.le.0.disabled=3D1
  set hint.le.0.port=3D0x300
  set hint.le.0.irq=3D5
  set hint.le.0.maddr=3D0xd
  set hint.lnc.0.at=3Disa
  set hint.lnc.0.disabled=3D1
  set hint.lnc.0.port=3D0x280
  set hint.lnc.0.irq=3D10
  set hint.lnc.0.drq=3D0
  load /kernel
 /kernel text=3D0x23b500 data=3D0x2f024+0x4bedc /
  echo \007\007

  echo Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter:
 Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter:
  read

  load -t mfs_root /mfsroot
  set hint.acpi.0.disabled=3D1
  set driver_floppy=3DYES
  set module_path=3D/modules;/dist
  echo \007\007

  autoboot 10
 Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
 Booting [/kernel]...
 131072K of memory above 4GB ignored
 Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
 The Regents of the University of California. All rights =
 reserved.
 FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT-20031029-JPSNAP #0: Wed Oct 29 04:30:49 GMT 2003
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BOOTMFS
 Preloaded elf kernel /kernel at 0xc0af1000.
 Preloaded mfs_root /mfsroot at 0xc0af12c0.
 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2399.33-MHz 686-class CPU)
   Origin =3D GenuineIntel  Id =3D 0xf25  Stepping =3D 5
   =
 Features=3D0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PG=
 E,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
   Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
 real memory  =3D 4160225280 (3967 MB)
 avail memory =3D 4043710464 (3856 MB)
 Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
 md0: Preloaded image /mfsroot 4423680 bytes

Re: 5.1-R and 5.1-C floppies will not boot on SuperMicro 6023P-8R

2003-10-31 Thread Jun Kuriyama
At Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:56:43 + (UTC),
Stephane Raimbault wrote:
 Does anyone have any thoughts regarding this?  I would like to get 5.1 on
 this server.

How about trying with -v at boot?


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5.1-R and 5.1-C floppies will not boot on SuperMicro 6023P-8R

2003-10-29 Thread Stephane Raimbault
Hi,

I'm trying to install 5.1-R or 5.1-C from floppies redirected output to serial port 
and it won't boot to the install screen.  4.9-R floppies with output redirected to 
serial port works and installs properly.  This is what I get on my serial console when 
I try to boot on 5.1-C (similar to 5.1-R)  seems to hang after the vga0 shows up 
during boot.

Is there anything I can do or provide to resolve my install problem?

Uncompressing ... done
  Console: serial port
BIOS drive A: is disk0
BIOS drive C: is disk1
BIOS 633kB/4061120kB available memory

FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1
([EMAIL PROTECTED], Wed Oct 29 04:14:01 GMT 2003)
 include /boot/device.hints
 set hint.fdc.0.at=isa
 set hint.fdc.0.port=0x3F0
 set hint.fdc.0.irq=6
 set hint.fdc.0.drq=2
 set hint.fd.0.at=fdc0
 set hint.fd.0.drive=0
 set hint.fd.1.at=fdc0
 set hint.fd.1.drive=1
 set hint.ata.0.at=isa
 set hint.ata.0.port=0x1F0
 set hint.ata.0.irq=14
 set hint.ata.1.at=isa
 set hint.ata.1.port=0x170
 set hint.ata.1.irq=15
 set hint.adv.0.at=isa
 set hint.adv.0.disabled=1
 set hint.bt.0.at=isa
 set hint.bt.0.disabled=1
 set hint.aha.0.at=isa
 set hint.aha.0.disabled=1
 set hint.aic.0.at=isa
 set hint.aic.0.disabled=1
 set hint.atkbdc.0.at=isa
 set hint.atkbdc.0.port=0x060
 set hint.atkbd.0.at=atkbdc
 set hint.atkbd.0.irq=1
 set hint.atkbd.0.flags=0x1
 set hint.psm.0.at=atkbdc
 set hint.psm.0.irq=12
 set hint.vga.0.at=isa
 set hint.sc.0.at=isa
 set hint.sc.0.flags=0x100
 set hint.vt.0.at=isa
 set hint.vt.0.disabled=1
 set hint.apm.0.disabled=1
 set hint.apm.0.flags=0x20
 set hint.pcic.0.at=isa
 set hint.pcic.0.port=0x3e0
 set hint.pcic.0.maddr=0xd
 set hint.pcic.1.at=isa
 set hint.pcic.1.irq=11
 set hint.pcic.1.port=0x3e2
 set hint.pcic.1.maddr=0xd4000
 set hint.pcic.1.disabled=1
 set hint.sio.0.at=isa
 set hint.sio.0.port=0x3F8
 set hint.sio.0.flags=0x10
 set hint.sio.0.irq=4
 set hint.sio.1.at=isa
 set hint.sio.1.port=0x2F8
 set hint.sio.1.irq=3
 set hint.sio.2.at=isa
 set hint.sio.2.disabled=1
 set hint.sio.2.port=0x3E8
 set hint.sio.2.irq=5
 set hint.sio.3.at=isa
 set hint.sio.3.disabled=1
 set hint.sio.3.port=0x2E8
 set hint.sio.3.irq=9
 set hint.ppc.0.at=isa
 set hint.ppc.0.irq=7
 set hint.ed.0.at=isa
 set hint.ed.0.disabled=1
 set hint.ed.0.port=0x280
 set hint.ed.0.irq=10
 set hint.ed.0.maddr=0xd8000
 set hint.cs.0.at=isa
 set hint.cs.0.disabled=1
 set hint.cs.0.port=0x300
 set hint.sn.0.at=isa
 set hint.sn.0.disabled=1
 set hint.sn.0.port=0x300
 set hint.sn.0.irq=10
 set hint.ie.0.at=isa
 set hint.ie.0.disabled=1
 set hint.ie.0.port=0x300
 set hint.ie.0.irq=10
 set hint.ie.0.maddr=0xd
 set hint.fe.0.at=isa
 set hint.fe.0.disabled=1
 set hint.fe.0.port=0x300
 set hint.le.0.at=isa
 set hint.le.0.disabled=1
 set hint.le.0.port=0x300
 set hint.le.0.irq=5
 set hint.le.0.maddr=0xd
 set hint.lnc.0.at=isa
 set hint.lnc.0.disabled=1
 set hint.lnc.0.port=0x280
 set hint.lnc.0.irq=10
 set hint.lnc.0.drq=0
 load /kernel
/kernel text=0x23b500 data=0x2f024+0x4bedc /
 echo \007\007

 echo Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter:
Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter:
 read

 load -t mfs_root /mfsroot
 set hint.acpi.0.disabled=1
 set driver_floppy=YES
 set module_path=/modules;/dist
 echo \007\007

 autoboot 10
Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
Booting [/kernel]...
131072K of memory above 4GB ignored
Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT-20031029-JPSNAP #0: Wed Oct 29 04:30:49 GMT 2003
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Preloaded elf kernel /kernel at 0xc0af1000.
Preloaded mfs_root /mfsroot at 0xc0af12c0.
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2399.33-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf25  Stepping = 5
  
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
real memory  = 4160225280 (3967 MB)
avail memory = 4043710464 (3856 MB)
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Preloaded image /mfsroot 4423680 bytes at 0xc06b7400
npx0: [FAST]
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcibios: BIOS version 2.10
Using $PIR table, 29 entries at 0xc00fddf0
pcib0: Host to PCI bridge at pcibus 0 on motherboard
pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
pci_cfgintr: 0:29 INTA BIOS irq 11
pci_cfgintr: 0:29 INTB BIOS irq 10
pci_cfgintr: 0:29 INTC BIOS irq 5
pci0: unknown at device 0.1 (no driver attached)
pcib1: PCIBIOS PCI-PCI bridge at device 2.0 on pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
pci1: base peripheral, interrupt controller at device 28.0 (no driver attached)
pcib2: PCIBIOS PCI-PCI bridge at device 29.0 on pci1
pci2: PCI bus on pcib2
pci1: base peripheral, interrupt controller at device 30.0 (no driver attached)
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Re: 5.1-R and 5.1-C floppies will not boot on SuperMicro 6023P-8R

2003-10-29 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:07:27PM -0700, Stephane Raimbault wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to install 5.1-R or 5.1-C from floppies redirected output to serial port 
 and it won't boot to the install screen.  4.9-R floppies with output redirected to 
 serial port works and installs properly.  This is what I get on my serial console 
 when I try to boot on 5.1-C (similar to 5.1-R)  seems to hang after the vga0 shows 
 up during boot.
 
 Is there anything I can do or provide to resolve my install problem?

Don't you have to tell the kernel to use an alternate system console?

Kris


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Re: 5.1-R and 5.1-C floppies will not boot on SuperMicro 6023P-8R

2003-10-29 Thread Stephane Raimbault
I followed the instructions found in the handbook.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-advanced.html

I've used this method for all my SuperMicro 6013P-8 servers some running
5.1-R and others 4.8-R

Thanks,
Stephane.

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Re: 5.1-R and 5.1-C floppies will not boot on SuperMicro 6023P-8R

2003-10-29 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:15:00PM -0700, Stephane Raimbault wrote:
 I followed the instructions found in the handbook.
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-advanced.html
 
 I've used this method for all my SuperMicro 6013P-8 servers some running
 5.1-R and others 4.8-R

I didn't see you do 'boot -h' in the log you posted.

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Re: Please test: USB floppies

2003-09-04 Thread Nate Lawson
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote:
 On Thursday 28 August 2003 21:35, Nate Lawson wrote:
  On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote:
   On Monday 25 August 2003 23:19, Nate Lawson wrote:
If anyone has a USB floppy drive that is giving them problems, please
let me know.
  
   Hello,
  
   this one needs NO_SYNC I think.
  
   Played a bit some time ago but had no luck (I'm no programmer)
  
   port 1 addr 2: full speed, power 500 mA, config 1, NEC USB
   UF000x(0x0040), NEC(0x0409), rev 1.23

 *SNIP*

 
  Have you tried it again since early August?  Also, what is the exact
  behavior when you try to mount or read it?

 Mounting, reading writing and umounting is working without errors, just these
 warnings.

 Here are the one from today's world:
 umass0: NEC NEC USB UF000x, rev 1.10/1.23, addr 4
 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0
 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred
 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data)
 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0: NEC USB UF000x 1.23 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device
 da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
 da0: 1MB (2880 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1C)
 umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status
 == 0x0
 umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status
 == 0x0
 umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status
 == 0x0
 umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status
 == 0x0

While annoying, if your device doesn't hang or fail to operate, it does
not need a quirk.

So far, I have had no reports of USB devices with old quirks actually
failing when their quirks were disabled.  Once again, anything under
DA_OLD_QUIRKS will be removed after the release.

-Nate
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Re: Please test: USB floppies

2003-08-28 Thread Nate Lawson
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote:
 On Monday 25 August 2003 23:19, Nate Lawson wrote:
  If anyone has a USB floppy drive that is giving them problems, please let
  me know.
 Hello,

 this one needs NO_SYNC I think.

 Played a bit some time ago but had no luck (I'm no programmer)

 port 1 addr 2: full speed, power 500 mA, config 1, NEC USB UF000x(0x0040),
 NEC(0x0409), rev 1.23
 ___
 Here's some log:

 umass0: NEC NEC USB UF000x, rev 1.10/1.23, addr 2
 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0
 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred
 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data)
 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0: NEC USB UF000x 1.23 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device
 da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
 da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error
 Opened disk da0 - 6
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error
 Opened disk da0 - 6

Have you tried it again since early August?  Also, what is the exact
behavior when you try to mount or read it?

-Nate
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Re: Please test: USB floppies

2003-08-28 Thread Nate Lawson
On Wed, 28 Aug 2003, Larry Baird wrote:
 Nate,

  When umount-ing I get the following:
 
  umass: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
  (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status == 
  0x0
 
  And this is repeated twice.
 
  This message is harmless in the absence of other problems.
 
  But no problems like the drive hanging after multiple mount/umounts or
  writing problems or anything?

 Here is a report on another USB floppy drive.
 On my Sony VAIO using SOny's Y-E DATA USB-FDU 1.28 floppy I am also
 seeing the same message as above.  But I see it everytime I access the
 floppy.  Repeated mounts/ unmounts and I/O to the floppy appear to
 work fine.  No hangs, nothing odd other than the above message.

 I think I have some other USB floppy drives at work.  I'll try and give
 them a test drive as well in the next few days.

I re-enabled some floppy quirks that I'm unsure are needed but I had to do
it for the upcoming 4.9R just in case.  So your results don't help at this
point.

Could you put an #if 0 and #endif around the section marked:
/* USB floppy devices supported by umass(4) */

Alternatively, cvsup sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c to rev 1.42.2.42 and test the
floppy again.

Thanks,
Nate
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Re: Please test: USB floppies

2003-08-28 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
On Thursday 28 August 2003 21:35, Nate Lawson wrote:
 On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote:
  On Monday 25 August 2003 23:19, Nate Lawson wrote:
   If anyone has a USB floppy drive that is giving them problems, please
   let me know.
 
  Hello,
 
  this one needs NO_SYNC I think.
 
  Played a bit some time ago but had no luck (I'm no programmer)
 
  port 1 addr 2: full speed, power 500 mA, config 1, NEC USB
  UF000x(0x0040), NEC(0x0409), rev 1.23

*SNIP*


 Have you tried it again since early August?  Also, what is the exact
 behavior when you try to mount or read it?

Mounting, reading writing and umounting is working without errors, just these 
warnings.

Here are the one from today's world:
umass0: NEC NEC USB UF000x, rev 1.10/1.23, addr 4
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data)
da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: NEC USB UF000x 1.23 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device 
da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
da0: 1MB (2880 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1C)
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Not ready to ready change, medium may have changed
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data)
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
cale:/mnt# 

Thanks,

-Harry


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Re: Please test: USB floppies

2003-08-27 Thread Nate Lawson
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 02:19:03PM -0700, Nate Lawson wrote:
  If anyone has a USB floppy drive that is giving them problems, please let
  me know.

 I have a Compaq Evo N800c running 5.1-CURRENT (date 8 Aug)

 The usb floppy is working, I tried with a M$-dos floppy and I can mount
 and read it. I get a lot of error messages though,

 When running `mount_msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt` I get the following:

 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Not ready to ready change, medium may have changed
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data)

This is fine.  I assume you only get one message like this.  It means that
the media (floppy) in the drive has changed, the old capacity info is
invalidated, and that CAM should attempt to retry the command to get the
new data.

 That's exactly what it says even the strange English in line 4
 The floppy is readable i,e I can run `ls -l` on it.

That is good.

 When umount-ing I get the following:

 umass: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status == 0x0

 And this is repeated twice.

This message is harmless in the absence of other problems.

But no problems like the drive hanging after multiple mount/umounts or
writing problems or anything?

-Nate
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Re: Please test: USB floppies

2003-08-26 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
On Monday 25 August 2003 23:19, Nate Lawson wrote:
 If anyone has a USB floppy drive that is giving them problems, please let
 me know.
Hello,

this one needs NO_SYNC I think.

Played a bit some time ago but had no luck (I'm no programmer)

port 1 addr 2: full speed, power 500 mA, config 1, NEC USB UF000x(0x0040), 
NEC(0x0409), rev 1.23

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Here's some log:

umass0: NEC NEC USB UF000x, rev 1.10/1.23, addr 2
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred
(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data)
da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: NEC USB UF000x 1.23 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device 
da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error
Opened disk da0 - 6
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error
Opened disk da0 - 6

and more log:

(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Not ready to ready change, medium may have changed
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data)
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Not ready to ready change, medium may have changed
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data)
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0
umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status 
== 0x0


 Thanks,

Thank you,

-Harry

 Nate
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Please test: USB floppies

2003-08-25 Thread Nate Lawson
If anyone has a USB floppy drive that is giving them problems, please let
me know.

Thanks,
Nate
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release and floppies

2003-04-03 Thread Anton Yudin

How to fix problem with floppies  1457664 bytes?

P.S. please, CC me
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Re: release and floppies

2003-04-03 Thread Harald Hanche-Olsen
+ Anton Yudin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

|   How to fix problem with floppies  1457664 bytes?

By not downloading a new release before it's announced.  Just wait, a
corrected version of 4.8-RELEASE without this problem will appear.
Wait a little longer, for the official announcement.  Then get it.

OK?

- Harald
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Re: release and floppies

2003-04-03 Thread Anton Yudin
 + Anton Yudin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 | How to fix problem with floppies  1457664 bytes?

 By not downloading a new release before it's announced.  Just wait, a
 corrected version of 4.8-RELEASE without this problem will appear.
 Wait a little longer, for the official announcement.  Then get it.

 OK?
but i'm building 5.0-CURRENT, not STABLE


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5.0-RELEASE panics during the floppies boot

2003-01-28 Thread Rostislav Krasny
Hello

FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE panics during the floppies boot with following
messages:

panic: inthand_add: Can't initialize ICU
syncing disks, buffers remaining... panic: bdwrite: buffer is not busy

The box have two ISA PnP cards - a NIC based on UMC UM9008/F chip and
Creative SB16 based on ViBRA16 chip. There are no PCI cards although
there are 4 PCI slots. The video card is ATI XPERT 98 AGP based on ATI
RAGE XL chip. There is also one non-PnP ISA card - a hardware 33600bps
modem based on Rockwell chip.

The BIOS have PnP OS option that can be set to No or Yes. If it
set to No the BIOS initialize all PnP devices, including ISA PnP
devices. Before the MBR loading (boot0) BIOS prints on the screen a
diagnostic information about all initialized PnP devices, including
choosen to them resurces (IRQs, DMA channels). In my case it choose IRQ
10 for my ISA PnP NIC and IRQ 5 with DMA channel 0 and 1 for my ISA PnP
Creative SB16. Currently installed OS-es are FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE and
Win98SE.

Win98SE get to know that BIOS already initialized all ISA PnP devices.
Win98SE use the same resurces that BIOS choose. The resurces are IRQ 10
and I/O port range 0x0240-0x025F for the NIC and IRQ 5 with DMA
channels 0 and 1 for the SB16. Port ranges of SB16 are not so
interesting for us, so I don't tell they.

FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE don't know that or don't use PnP BIOS features.
Instead 4.7 re-initialize all of my ISA PnP devices with different
resurces' parameters. For example, it use IRQ 5 and I/O port range
0x0200-0x021F for the NIC.

FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE (when I do floppies boot) try to use IRQ 2 and same
I/O port range for the NIC. It prints following line just before the
panic:

ed1: ISA PLUG  PLAY  Ethernet Card at port 0x200-0x21f irq 2 on isa0

If I set in my BIOS the PnP OS option to Yes I don't get this line
but FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE still panics during the boot. The panic
messages are exactly the same.

So, we have two problems:
1. FreeBSD (all versions) do not know about BIOS's PnP devices
   configuration support (at least for ISA PnP devices).
2. When FreeBSD 5.0 try to configure PnP devices (at least ISA PnP
   devices) it do it wrong way. FreeBSD 4.7 do it better but
   not perfect.

I think that future FreeBSD releases must be able to work better with
PnP BIOS features. Plug and Play configuration capability must be
improved too, especially in 5.X.

P.S. The same panic was already discussed about a year and half before.
This is the link to archived copy of one that discussion member:

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=471741+0+archive/2001/freebsd-current/20010930.freebsd-current

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make release fails building floppies ...

2003-01-23 Thread Marc G. Fournier

I'm slowly getting closer, but am not quite there yet :(

I'm at the stage where its building teh floppies, but its telling me that
the md devices are out of disk space:

if [ -d /R/stage/driversfd ]; then  sh -e /usr/local/5.0/src/release/scripts/doFS.sh  
/R/stage/floppies/drivers.flp /R/stage /mnt 1440  /R/stage/driversfd 4 fd1440;  cd 
/R/stage/driversfd  awk -f  /usr/local/5.0/src/release/scripts/driver-desc.awk  
*.dsc  /R/stage/floppies/DRIVERS.TXT;  fi
/dev/md3c: 1.4MB (2880 sectors) block size 4096, fragment size 512
using 2 cylinder groups of 1.22MB, 312 blks, 32 inodes.
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
 32, 2528
1871 blocks
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused  Mounted on
/dev/md3c   1391  987   40471%  3329   53%   /mnt
*** Filesystem is 1440 K, 404 left
*** 4 bytes/inode, 29 left
sh -e /usr/local/5.0/src/release/scripts/doFS.sh -s mfsroot /R/stage /mnt  4320 
/R/stage/mfsfd 8000 minimum3
/dev/md3c: 4.2MB (8640 sectors) block size 4096, fragment size 512
using 4 cylinder groups of 1.06MB, 271 blks, 160 inodes.
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
 32, 2200, 4368, 6536
6496 blocks
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused  Mounted on
/dev/md3c   4175 3309   86679%  96   542   15%   /mnt
*** Filesystem is 4320 K, 866 left
*** 8000 bytes/inode, 542 left
mfsroot: 67.4%
/dev/md3c: 1.4MB (2880 sectors) block size 4096, fragment size 512
using 1 cylinder groups of 1.41MB, 360 blks, 32 inodes.
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
 32

/mnt: write failed, filesystem is full
cp: /mnt/mfsroot.gz: No space left on device
*** Error code 1

I ran 'make release' as:

make relesae \
CHROOTDIR=/usr/local/release \
BUILDNAME=vaio \
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RELEASETAG=RELENG_5_0 \
NODOC=YES \
KERNEL_FLAGS=-j 5 \
NOPORTS=YES \
WORLD_FLAGS=-j 5



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Re: make release fails building floppies ...

2003-01-23 Thread Juli Mallett
* De: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Data: 2003-01-23 ]
[ Subjecte: make release fails building floppies ... ]
 
 I'm slowly getting closer, but am not quite there yet :(
 
 I'm at the stage where its building teh floppies, but its telling me that
 the md devices are out of disk space:

This is probably my fault, since tunefs(8) needs libufs now.  Converting
other things that could use it that are on the floppies to use libufs
would be a start.  My newfs changes might be enough.
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Re: make release fails building floppies ...

2003-01-23 Thread Marc G. Fournier

got it ... figured out how the mfsfd/modules is generated, and just trim'd
down the driver.conf file to the bare essentials ...



On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Juli Mallett wrote:

 * De: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Data: 2003-01-23 ]
   [ Subjecte: make release fails building floppies ... ]
 
  I'm slowly getting closer, but am not quite there yet :(
 
  I'm at the stage where its building teh floppies, but its telling me that
  the md devices are out of disk space:

 This is probably my fault, since tunefs(8) needs libufs now.  Converting
 other things that could use it that are on the floppies to use libufs
 would be a start.  My newfs changes might be enough.
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Re: DP2 (I think!) crash booting from floppies

2002-11-22 Thread local.freebsd.current
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:11:42 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert
Watson) wrote:

This is not actually DP2, it's about a week earlier.  That said, I'm not
sure that bug was fixed in the missing week.  If you can, try booting off
of the 5.0-DP2 ISOs found at:

  ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/5.0-DP2

Or using the floppies:

  ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/5.0-DP2/floppies

OK thanks for the correction. Using these floppies I can get much
further. I get this during the boot:

unknown: PNP0c02 can't assign resources (port)
unknown: PNP0303 can't assign resources (port)
unknown: PNP0f13 can't assign resources (irq)
unknown: PNP0501 can't assign resources (port)
unknown: PNP0700 can't assign resources (port)
unknown: PNP0400 can't assign resources (port)

Then I get into sysinstall OK, partition the disk, set up the network
via DHCP and choose to install via passive FTP from ftp.freebsd.org.
All goes well until I get Extracting base into / directory then
Write failure on transfer. Wrote -1 bytes of 240640 and at the
bottom of the screen /mnt: write failed, filesystem is full.

Alt-F2 shows:
pid 85 (cpio) uid 0, inumber 5278 on /mnt: filesystem full
/stand/cpio: write error: No space left on device
/stand/gunzip: failed fwrite

I think I saw something about that in a recent posting so I 
guess the fix hasn't made it into the floppies yet.

jim


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Re: DP2 (I think!) crash booting from floppies

2002-11-22 Thread local.freebsd.current
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:31:04 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(local.freebsd.current) wrote:

Alt-F2 shows:
pid 85 (cpio) uid 0, inumber 5278 on /mnt: filesystem full
/stand/cpio: write error: No space left on device
/stand/gunzip: failed fwrite

I think I saw something about that in a recent posting so I 
guess the fix hasn't made it into the floppies yet.

But of course the fact that I had only given / 50Mb might
have had something to do with it :-)

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Re: DP2 (I think!) crash booting from floppies

2002-11-22 Thread Udo Erdelhoff
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:30:34PM -, local.freebsd.current wrote:
 All goes well until I get Extracting base into / directory then
 Write failure on transfer. Wrote -1 bytes of 240640 and at the
 bottom of the screen /mnt: write failed, filesystem is full.

I had exactly the same problems with 4.x recently; and it turned out
that the problem was caused by a bad floppy.  dd hat written all the
data without reporting errors, but when I tried to boot from the
floppy... b00m.

Try to read the floppy back on the system where you created it, i.e.
dd if=/dev/fd0 of=verify.dat and then compare the md5 checksums of
the original .flp file and this file.  If they do not match or if
dd aborts with an error message, you know where your problems are
coming from.

/s/Udo 
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RE: Problems with DP2 install floppies ... ?

2002-11-20 Thread Jacques Garrigue
Since I finally succeded in installing DP2 booting from floppy, I
thought I might answer.

On 19-Nov-2002 Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 
 'K, that is what I did ...
 
 One final issue on this first attempt ... when I go into 'partition' an
 existing drive, how do I get it to 'mount' my existing swap device?
 rightnow, I just deleted and created it, but that just doesn't sound ...
 safe ...

I did the same. A bit strange (why would we need a swap during
installation anyway), but not dangerous, since you're not formatting
anything.


 On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, John Baldwin wrote:

 On 19-Nov-2002 Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 
  Just got everything up, made sure that it knew how to mount my file
  systems, watched it fsck those same file systems ... but as soon as it
  started to install, it reported out of space errors ...
 
  On ALT-F2, it looks like its trying to write to:
 
  ./usr/share/dict/..
 
  instead of, what I believe its supposed to be:
 
  /mnt/usr/share/dict/..
 
  which would explain why its running out of disk space, as its trying to
  write to the floppy ... ?
 
  Going to ALT-F4 and doing a df shows that everything appears to be mounted
  as expected (/mnt, /mnt/dev, /mnt/usr, etc) ...
 
  known problem, or did I screw up a step here?
 
  thanks ...

 Did you try to restart your install via Ctrl-C?  If so,
 don't, the restart stuff doesn't really work right.

This may be related to Ctrl-C, but considering the time it takes to
reboot, I'm willing to take the risk...

Finally I could locate the problem: go to the options screen and set
the installation root to /mnt. For some reason it is /, which seems
wrong. After that I could install... but failed after the install
finished for some other reason I don't remember.
I couldn't do the post-install configuration, but since it was enough
to boot, I just did it after reboot.
And now, after compiling the packages that are not available, I have a
nice running system.

Is the floppy network install really working if you don't hit Ctrl-C?
I seem to remember it was failing anyway, but I might be wrong.

Aside question: I realized that the compiler sets -mcpu=pentiumpro by
default. Is it the correct option for a Crusoe CPU?

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-mcpu and CPUTYPE (Re: Problems with DP2 install floppies ... ?)

2002-11-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 07:32:43PM +0900, Jacques Garrigue wrote:

 Aside question: I realized that the compiler sets -mcpu=pentiumpro by
 default. Is it the correct option for a Crusoe CPU?

-mcpu doesn't change instruction set generated by the compiler, it
affects instruction layout (i.e. the code still runs on a 386).

Your question is really about what value of CPUTYPE to set in
/etc/make.conf.  I don't know the exact answer to that question for
your CPU, but a vague answer is whatever instruction set architecture
that chip emulates (i.e. pentium3, pentium/mmx, etc).

Kris



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DP2 (I think!) crash booting from floppies

2002-11-20 Thread local.freebsd.current
I got a pair of floppies from:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/5.0-20021103-SNAP/floppies/

and booted them on a Dell Dimension XPS D300 which is currently
running 4.7. It's a PII/300 with an Adaptec 2940 SCSI and an 
STB Riva graphics card.

When booting the kernel off the second floppy I get:

Booting [/kernel]...
/

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in vm86 mode
fault virtual address  = 0x9f800
fault code = user read, page not present
instruction pointer= 0xf000:0x8c3e
stack pointer  = 0x0:0xfcc
frame pointer  = 0x0:0xfd4
code segment   = base 0x0, limit 0x0, type 0x0
   = DPL 0, pres 0, def32 0, gran 0
processor eflags   = interrupt enabled, resume, vm86, IOPL = 0
current process= 0 ()
trap number= 12
panic: page fault
Uptime: 1s

The same floppies work fine on another machine, up to the point
of launching sysinstall.


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Re: DP2 (I think!) crash booting from floppies

2002-11-20 Thread local.freebsd.current
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:32:29 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(local.freebsd.current) wrote:

I got a pair of floppies from:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/5.0-20021103-SNAP/floppies
/

and booted them on a Dell Dimension XPS D300 which is currently
running 4.7. It's a PII/300 with an Adaptec 2940 SCSI and an 
STB Riva graphics card.

I've now tried a third machine, one whose disk I can overwrite.
This is a PII/400 (MSI 6119 board) with two IDE drives, an IDE
CD, a Kingston (Realtek) NIC and ATI graphics.

I can get as far as FDISK but when I hit A to use the entire
disk, nothing happens. It doesn't respond to the keyboard at
all. Numlock still toggles the light so *something* is there,
but not a lot.

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Re: DP2 (I think!) crash booting from floppies

2002-11-20 Thread Terry Lambert
local.freebsd.current wrote:
 I got a pair of floppies from:
 
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/5.0-20021103-SNAP/floppies/
 
 and booted them on a Dell Dimension XPS D300 which is currently
 running 4.7. It's a PII/300 with an Adaptec 2940 SCSI and an
 STB Riva graphics card.
 
 When booting the kernel off the second floppy I get:
 
 Booting [/kernel]...
 /
 
 Fatal trap 12: page fault while in vm86 mode
 fault virtual address  = 0x9f800
 instruction pointer= 0xf000:0x8c3e

Patch which was never integrated.  Build a new kernel.

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=341812+0+archive/2002/freebsd-current/20021027.freebsd-current

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Re: DP2 (I think!) crash booting from floppies

2002-11-20 Thread Robert Watson
This is not actually DP2, it's about a week earlier.  That said, I'm not
sure that bug was fixed in the missing week.  If you can, try booting off
of the 5.0-DP2 ISOs found at:

  ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/5.0-DP2

Or using the floppies:

  ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/5.0-DP2/floppies

Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Network Associates Laboratories

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, local.freebsd.current wrote:

 I got a pair of floppies from:
 
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/5.0-20021103-SNAP/floppies/
 
 and booted them on a Dell Dimension XPS D300 which is currently
 running 4.7. It's a PII/300 with an Adaptec 2940 SCSI and an 
 STB Riva graphics card.
 
 When booting the kernel off the second floppy I get:
 
 Booting [/kernel]...
 /
 
 Fatal trap 12: page fault while in vm86 mode
 fault virtual address  = 0x9f800
 fault code = user read, page not present
 instruction pointer= 0xf000:0x8c3e
 stack pointer  = 0x0:0xfcc
 frame pointer  = 0x0:0xfd4
 code segment   = base 0x0, limit 0x0, type 0x0
= DPL 0, pres 0, def32 0, gran 0
 processor eflags   = interrupt enabled, resume, vm86, IOPL = 0
 current process= 0 ()
 trap number= 12
 panic: page fault
 Uptime: 1s
 
 The same floppies work fine on another machine, up to the point
 of launching sysinstall.
 
 
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Re: DP2 (I think!) crash booting from floppies

2002-11-20 Thread John Baldwin

On 20-Nov-2002 local.freebsd.current wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:32:29 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (local.freebsd.current) wrote:
 
I got a pair of floppies from:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/5.0-20021103-SNAP/floppies
 /

and booted them on a Dell Dimension XPS D300 which is currently
running 4.7. It's a PII/300 with an Adaptec 2940 SCSI and an 
STB Riva graphics card.
 
 I've now tried a third machine, one whose disk I can overwrite.
 This is a PII/400 (MSI 6119 board) with two IDE drives, an IDE
 CD, a Kingston (Realtek) NIC and ATI graphics.
 
 I can get as far as FDISK but when I hit A to use the entire
 disk, nothing happens. It doesn't respond to the keyboard at
 all. Numlock still toggles the light so *something* is there,
 but not a lot.

Can you use Alt-F2 to switch to the debug terminal and see if there
is any output?  You probably want to switch before you do the fdisk,
then switch again afterwards to see if there is any new output.  You
can get back to the main screen from the debug terminal by using
Alt-F1.

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Re: DP2 (I think!) crash booting from floppies

2002-11-20 Thread Nate Lawson
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
 local.freebsd.current wrote:
  I got a pair of floppies from:
  
  ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/5.0-20021103-SNAP/floppies/
  
  and booted them on a Dell Dimension XPS D300 which is currently
  running 4.7. It's a PII/300 with an Adaptec 2940 SCSI and an
  STB Riva graphics card.
  
  When booting the kernel off the second floppy I get:
  
  Booting [/kernel]...
  /
  
  Fatal trap 12: page fault while in vm86 mode
  fault virtual address  = 0x9f800
  instruction pointer= 0xf000:0x8c3e
 
 Patch which was never integrated.  Build a new kernel.
 
 
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=341812+0+archive/2002/freebsd-current/20021027.freebsd-current

Can someone get the memory detection (int 12) back to stable?  The
conservative approach seems to only have the limitation of losing 640k
whereas the experimental approach causes panics.

Can we take such critical experiments out of the base system and let them
mature as a patch?  I heard something about a release coming up or
something like that.

-Nate


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Re: DP2 (I think!) crash booting from floppies

2002-11-20 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
Hi,

 On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
  local.freebsd.current wrote:
   I got a pair of floppies from:
   
   ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/5.0-20021103-SNAP/floppies/
   
   and booted them on a Dell Dimension XPS D300 which is currently
   running 4.7. It's a PII/300 with an Adaptec 2940 SCSI and an
   STB Riva graphics card.
   
   When booting the kernel off the second floppy I get:
   
   Booting [/kernel]...
   /
   
   Fatal trap 12: page fault while in vm86 mode
   fault virtual address  = 0x9f800
   instruction pointer= 0xf000:0x8c3e
  
  Patch which was never integrated.  Build a new kernel.
  
  
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=341812+0+archive/2002/freebsd-current/20021027.freebsd-current
 
 Can someone get the memory detection (int 12) back to stable?  The
 conservative approach seems to only have the limitation of losing 640k
 whereas the experimental approach causes panics.
 
 Can we take such critical experiments out of the base system and let them
 mature as a patch?  I heard something about a release coming up or
 something like that.

I already got the memory detection (int 12) back to STABLE and CURRENT.
After all, nothing had changed there except for having new loader tunable.

If you find 'Fatal trap 12: page fault while in vm86 mode' message at
early kernel boot stage, your BIOS probably has broken INT 12H (in my
case, it was not implemented by BIOS writer).
The loader tunable 'hw.hasbrokenint12' is workaround for it.
Try this at loader prompt:
 ok set hw.hasbrokenint12=1

Thanks


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Re: DP2 (I think!) crash booting from floppies

2002-11-20 Thread Nate Lawson
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote:
 Nate Lawson wrote:
  Can someone get the memory detection (int 12) back to stable?  The
  conservative approach seems to only have the limitation of losing 640k
  whereas the experimental approach causes panics.
  
  Can we take such critical experiments out of the base system and let them
  mature as a patch?  I heard something about a release coming up or
  something like that.
 
 I already got the memory detection (int 12) back to STABLE and CURRENT.
 After all, nothing had changed there except for having new loader tunable.
 
 If you find 'Fatal trap 12: page fault while in vm86 mode' message at
 early kernel boot stage, your BIOS probably has broken INT 12H (in my
 case, it was not implemented by BIOS writer).
 The loader tunable 'hw.hasbrokenint12' is workaround for it.
 Try this at loader prompt:
  ok set hw.hasbrokenint12=1

Ah, thank you very much.  I didn't know this had been reverted.  The
tunable should be documented in the errata section as I'm sure other users
would appreciate that.

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Booting from floppies

2002-11-19 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
My guess is that nobody use 1.44 floppies any more to boot.
But when I wanted to fire up an old box which only has a floppy
it did not grock the msfroot floppy:

'/mfsroot not found'

Which is IMHO correct since the mfsroot-floppy contains 'mfsroot.gz'

probably an easy fix if you know where to look.

It happened first with de 5.0-DP1, but also with the most recent ones build on 16-11.

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Re: Booting from floppies

2002-11-19 Thread Miguel Mendez
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 12:42:18 +0100
Willem Jan Withagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 My guess is that nobody use 1.44 floppies any more to boot.
 But when I wanted to fire up an old box which only has a floppy
 it did not grock the msfroot floppy:
 
 '/mfsroot not found'

I just had that problem last week booting a -STABLE jpsnap. Having had
bad experiences with floppy disks reliability I just dd'ed it again,
just in case. The second time it worked. Could be a faulty disk.

FWIW I think a lot of people use boot floppies to do net installs.

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Problems with DP2 install floppies ... ?

2002-11-19 Thread Marc G. Fournier

Just got everything up, made sure that it knew how to mount my file
systems, watched it fsck those same file systems ... but as soon as it
started to install, it reported out of space errors ...

On ALT-F2, it looks like its trying to write to:

./usr/share/dict/..

instead of, what I believe its supposed to be:

/mnt/usr/share/dict/..

which would explain why its running out of disk space, as its trying to
write to the floppy ... ?

Going to ALT-F4 and doing a df shows that everything appears to be mounted
as expected (/mnt, /mnt/dev, /mnt/usr, etc) ...

known problem, or did I screw up a step here?

thanks ...



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RE: Problems with DP2 install floppies ... ?

2002-11-19 Thread John Baldwin

On 19-Nov-2002 Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 
 Just got everything up, made sure that it knew how to mount my file
 systems, watched it fsck those same file systems ... but as soon as it
 started to install, it reported out of space errors ...
 
 On ALT-F2, it looks like its trying to write to:
 
 ./usr/share/dict/..
 
 instead of, what I believe its supposed to be:
 
 /mnt/usr/share/dict/..
 
 which would explain why its running out of disk space, as its trying to
 write to the floppy ... ?
 
 Going to ALT-F4 and doing a df shows that everything appears to be mounted
 as expected (/mnt, /mnt/dev, /mnt/usr, etc) ...
 
 known problem, or did I screw up a step here?
 
 thanks ...

Did you try to restart your install via Ctrl-C?  If so,
don't, the restart stuff doesn't really work right.

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Re: Problems with DP2 install floppies ... ?

2002-11-19 Thread Tilman Linneweh
In freebsd.current, you wrote:
 
 Just got everything up, made sure that it knew how to mount my file
 systems, watched it fsck those same file systems ... but as soon as it
 started to install, it reported out of space errors ...
 
 On ALT-F2, it looks like its trying to write to:
 
 ./usr/share/dict/..
 
 instead of, what I believe its supposed to be:
 
 /mnt/usr/share/dict/..
 
 which would explain why its running out of disk space, as its trying to
 write to the floppy ... ?
 
 Going to ALT-F4 and doing a df shows that everything appears to be mounted
 as expected (/mnt, /mnt/dev, /mnt/usr, etc) ...
 
 known problem, or did I screw up a step here?

I have seen this out of space errors with the floppy install and a fresh formatted 8G 
Harddisk and default partition sizes.

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RE: Problems with DP2 install floppies ... ?

2002-11-19 Thread Marc G. Fournier

'K, that is what I did ...

One final issue on this first attempt ... when I go into 'partition' an
existing drive, how do I get it to 'mount' my existing swap device?
rightnow, I just deleted and created it, but that just doesn't sound ...
safe ...

On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, John Baldwin wrote:


 On 19-Nov-2002 Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 
  Just got everything up, made sure that it knew how to mount my file
  systems, watched it fsck those same file systems ... but as soon as it
  started to install, it reported out of space errors ...
 
  On ALT-F2, it looks like its trying to write to:
 
  ./usr/share/dict/..
 
  instead of, what I believe its supposed to be:
 
  /mnt/usr/share/dict/..
 
  which would explain why its running out of disk space, as its trying to
  write to the floppy ... ?
 
  Going to ALT-F4 and doing a df shows that everything appears to be mounted
  as expected (/mnt, /mnt/dev, /mnt/usr, etc) ...
 
  known problem, or did I screw up a step here?
 
  thanks ...

 Did you try to restart your install via Ctrl-C?  If so,
 don't, the restart stuff doesn't really work right.

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RE: Problems with DP2 install floppies ... ?

2002-11-19 Thread John Baldwin

On 19-Nov-2002 Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 
 'K, that is what I did ...
 
 One final issue on this first attempt ... when I go into 'partition' an
 existing drive, how do I get it to 'mount' my existing swap device?
 rightnow, I just deleted and created it, but that just doesn't sound ...
 safe ...

Hmm, not sure.  I don't think we currently support that.

 On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, John Baldwin wrote:
 

 On 19-Nov-2002 Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 
  Just got everything up, made sure that it knew how to mount my file
  systems, watched it fsck those same file systems ... but as soon as it
  started to install, it reported out of space errors ...
 
  On ALT-F2, it looks like its trying to write to:
 
  ./usr/share/dict/..
 
  instead of, what I believe its supposed to be:
 
  /mnt/usr/share/dict/..
 
  which would explain why its running out of disk space, as its trying to
  write to the floppy ... ?
 
  Going to ALT-F4 and doing a df shows that everything appears to be mounted
  as expected (/mnt, /mnt/dev, /mnt/usr, etc) ...
 
  known problem, or did I screw up a step here?
 
  thanks ...

 Did you try to restart your install via Ctrl-C?  If so,
 don't, the restart stuff doesn't really work right.

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Cannot install FreeBSD-current 9/10 and 9/17 from floppies

2002-09-17 Thread Craig Rodrigues

Hi,

I bought a second machine to install FreeBSD-current, so that
I can learn how to do kernel debugging via a serial cable.
I cannot install FreeBSD-current on this machine.
The machine is an IBM PIII-450

Here is what I did:

(1) Obtained kern.flp and mfsroot.flp floppy images from the 
9/17 and 9/10 snapshots of FreeBSD-current.
I obtained these from ftp://current.freebsd.org/

(2) After booting from the first floppy (kern.flp), I insert 
mfsroot.flp.

The install hangs at:

===
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c
md0c: raw partition size != slice size
md0c: start 0, end 5087, size 5088
md0c: truncating raw partition
md0c: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice
md0c: start 0, end 5087, size 5088
md0ca: start 0, end 8639, size 8640
spec_getpages: (md0c) I/O read failure:
   (error=22) bp 0x2031dc vp 0xc0e39000 size: 4096 resid: 4096,
   a_count: 4096
   valid: 0x0 nread: 0, reqpage: 0, pindex: 575, pcount: 1
===

Any ideas what the cause of this is?  I tried disabling things like
PNP in the BIOS, but that didn't fix anything.  I had the same problems
with the 9/17 and 9/10 floppy images.   
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Re: Cannot install FreeBSD-current 9/10 and 9/17 from floppies

2002-09-17 Thread Craig Rodrigues

Hi,

Just to follow up, I tried a few other floppy images, and
succeeded with the floppy images that are part of the 8/31 -CURRENT 
snapshot.  I can't figure out what the problem was with the newer
floppy images.

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On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:53:39PM -0400, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I bought a second machine to install FreeBSD-current, so that
 I can learn how to do kernel debugging via a serial cable.
 I cannot install FreeBSD-current on this machine.
 The machine is an IBM PIII-450
 
 Here is what I did:
 
 (1) Obtained kern.flp and mfsroot.flp floppy images from the 
 9/17 and 9/10 snapshots of FreeBSD-current.
 I obtained these from ftp://current.freebsd.org/
 
 (2) After booting from the first floppy (kern.flp), I insert 
 mfsroot.flp.
 
 The install hangs at:
 
 ===
 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c
 md0c: raw partition size != slice size
 md0c: start 0, end 5087, size 5088
 md0c: truncating raw partition
 md0c: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice
 md0c: start 0, end 5087, size 5088
 md0ca: start 0, end 8639, size 8640
 spec_getpages: (md0c) I/O read failure:
(error=22) bp 0x2031dc vp 0xc0e39000 size: 4096 resid: 4096,
a_count: 4096
valid: 0x0 nread: 0, reqpage: 0, pindex: 575, pcount: 1
 ===
 
 Any ideas what the cause of this is?  I tried disabling things like
 PNP in the BIOS, but that didn't fix anything.  I had the same problems
 with the 9/17 and 9/10 floppy images.   
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Re: high-density floppies

2001-10-30 Thread Joerg Wunsch

Joel Wilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 fd0: hard error reading fsbn 0 (ST0 40abnrml ST1 1no_am
  ST2 0 cyl 0 hd 0 sec 1)

   So, I thought I'd try using a raw device configured for
 higher density disks.

That wouldn't help you.  It's already failing at the very first
sector, by not finding any address mark at all.  Thus using one of the
»over-formatted« (like fd0.1720) devices wouldn't help.

 The reason I think they might NOT be damaged is that they
 are all of the same type (different type from the floppies
 I could read), and they are all double density floppies.

Well, if you really mean double density, it wouldn't require a
higher density device but a /lower/ density one.  The default device
is using high density (200 bytes raw medium capacity), while DD
media were 100 bytes raw.

So you could try using /dev/fd0.720.

 My question is, how can I do the equivalent of opening, for
 example, /dev/fd0.1720 (in -stable) under -current?

You just open it, and it will magically appear in /dev. :-)

[I've got a huge patchset here that will autodetect DD vs. HD
floppies, but before i'm going to commit it, i have to upgrade
my box first to -current.  This will also change the policy
regarding additional /dev/fd* devices, and i'll eventually
upgrade the man page as well.]
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high-density floppies

2001-10-07 Thread Joel Wilsson

Hi,

  I'm copying in some tar-files, which are written directly
to floppy disks.
It worked fine for normal floppies, but now I have 7
floppies that fail (when I use dd if=/dev/fd0 of=diskN.tar)
with:
fd0: hard error reading fsbn 0 (ST0 40abnrml ST1 1no_am
 ST2 0 cyl 0 hd 0 sec 1)

  For the first floppies that got this error, I assumed they
had been damaged.
The reason I think they might NOT be damaged is that they
are all of the same type (different type from the floppies
I could read), and they are all double density floppies.

  So, I thought I'd try using a raw device configured for
higher density disks. However, I can't find any such device;
I only have /dev/fd0, but without devfs (in -stable) I had
/dev/fd*.number which is described in fdc(4)

  The fdc man page seem to be out of date.
My question is, how can I do the equivalent of opening, for
example, /dev/fd0.1720 (in -stable) under -current?


Thanks,
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Re: Does floppies work with 384MByte RAM ?

2000-11-16 Thread Frank Nobis

On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 10:38:29PM -0500, Louis A. Mamakos wrote:
 
 I've got a Dell dual-Pentium-III XEON system at work that I was running
 -current on.  Some time ago (didn't notice when exactly, sigh) when
 building new kernels, I started getting 
 
 isa_dmainit(foo, bar) failed
 
For me it is a ASUS P2B-DS with 512M RAM.

I see the same isa_dmainit failed with full ram utilized. With MAXMEM
set to MAXMEM="(464*1024)" it is working under current. With 480M it
is failing.

I looked through the sources and found that contigousmalloc can't find
a page of physical ram under the 16M margin. But I am not vm wizzard
enough, to understand what the difference is with MAXMEM set to some
lower value than the real amount of memory.

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Does floppies work with 384MByte RAM ?

2000-11-15 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp


I have two reports about machines with 384MB RAM panicing when
the floppies are accessed.  I don't have the message right now
except for a report that "it said something about bouncebuffers"

Can somebody with 384MB ram check if the floppy works under
current ?

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Re: Does floppies work with 384MByte RAM ?

2000-11-15 Thread Donny Lee

Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
 I have two reports about machines with 384MB RAM panicing when
 the floppies are accessed.  I don't have the message right now
 except for a report that "it said something about bouncebuffers"
 
 Can somebody with 384MB ram check if the floppy works under
 current ?

  works fine on my current, i tried a mount, cp files in, rm files,
  and then a umount, all work normally.

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Re: Does floppies work with 384MByte RAM ?

2000-11-15 Thread Louis A. Mamakos

 
 I have two reports about machines with 384MB RAM panicing when
 the floppies are accessed.  I don't have the message right now
 except for a report that "it said something about bouncebuffers"

I apologize for the vagueness of this response, but perhaps it might
help shed some light.

I've got a Dell dual-Pentium-III XEON system at work that I was running
-current on.  Some time ago (didn't notice when exactly, sigh) when
building new kernels, I started getting 

isa_dmainit(foo, bar) failed

messages during the booting process for both the fdc device as well as
my CS423x sound device.  A cursory examination revealed that this was
while trying to allocate bounce buffers for both the floppy and sound
device DMA channels.

On a lark, I rebuilt a kernel with MAXMEM=(256*1024) (the system has 512M
of memory installed), and the isa_dmainit() failures stopped happening.

Recently, I installed 4.1.1-STABLE on this machine because, well, I needed
a stable system and didn't need to track the -current bleeding edge.  It's
probably hard for me currently to reproduce this problem myself right
now.

I'd suggest the MAXMEM hack to see if this mirrors my experience.  Certainly
this system was working just fine until sometime around the SMPNG milestone;
but I can't really attribute the failure to any particular change.

Again, sorry for the lack of detail; hope this might provide a hint.

louie


 Can somebody with 384MB ram check if the floppy works under
 current ?


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No kezboard with any -current snap floppies...

2000-09-28 Thread Anonymous Coward

Howdy.

I tried booting from a pair of kern/mfsroot floppies downloaded from
current.freebsd.org, and no go.  the kbd attach fails with 6.  This
also happens with grabbing the most current pair of floppies from
today, as well as the beginning of Aug floppies, so this seems to be
b0rken for quite some time, spanning the range of available snaps.

This is on an HP NetSwerver LPr, and I had no problems with a pair of
NetBSD floppies on the same hardware.

Anyone else sees this, or do I need to copy down some info before
the boot dmesg disappears?  Be happy to do this if nobody sees the
same thing.  Otherwise, I'll probably try some different hardware
just to get something happening...

thanks
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Re: No kezboard with any -current snap floppies...

2000-09-28 Thread Anonymous Coward

On 2585 Sep 1993 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I tried booting from a pair of kern/mfsroot floppies downloaded from
 current.freebsd.org, and no go.  the kbd attach fails with 6.  This

What is more, now that I've had success on some other hardware, is
that what I thought was a New Feature is probably related, if not
the reason.

On the NetSwerver, it totally skips the kernel config screen that
I expected to see and that turns out to be there after all, well
before the attempt to attach the kezboard.

If needed, I'll provide more info...
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Re: RC3 install floppies: panic: resource_list_alloc: resource entry is busy

2000-03-10 Thread Soren Schmidt

It seems Hans Ottevanger wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 I just tried to boot the RC3 install floppies on my Pentium 66 testbox.
 It gets through the config stage without trouble, but then panics
 immediately with:
 
 ...
 pcib0: Host to PCI bridge on motherboard
 pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
 atapci0: RZ 100? ATA controller !WARNING! buggy chip data loss
 possible port 0
 x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 1.0 on pci0
 atapci0: Busmastering DMA not supported
 panic: resource_list_alloc: resource entry is busy
 
 I am also having this problem with 4.0-CURRENT kernels since February
 18, both with my own custom kernel config and GENERIC.
 I have to revert to the ata driver of February 17 or earlier to get the
 system booting again, and then it runs perfectly.

Hmm, seems to be a resource conflict problem, question is what is
causing this. Could you do a verbose boot both with the old
working kernel, and the new failing one ?

 This machine has an Intel motherboard with a Mercury chipset, 64 Mbyte
 RAM, Matrox Millenium II, two Western Digital disks, and it ran all
 previous FreeBSD releases perfectly for almost five years.

Yeah I notice the RZ 1000 chips in there, BE CAREFULL, I wouldn't
use this for anything I cared about...

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Re: RC3 install floppies: panic: resource_list_alloc: resource entry is busy

2000-03-10 Thread Hans Ottevanger

Soren Schmidt wrote:
 
[...] 
 Hmm, seems to be a resource conflict problem, question is what is
 causing this. Could you do a verbose boot both with the old
 working kernel, and the new failing one ?
 

Attached are two files. Both kernels used are built from the same config
file, which is mostly GENERIC with devices removed that I do not have.

The file "new" results from booting a kernel built completely from
sources cvsupped yesterday. For "old" I replaced the contents of
/sys/dev/ata by the files of February 17, i.e. before the major changes.

I must remark that this is one of the machines that reports its IDE IRQ
as 0 when asked for it. About two months ago there were problems when
the ata driver took the timer interrupt. This was fixed by a special
clause in ata-all.c, at least up to February 17. Maybe the current
problem is related.

  This machine has an Intel motherboard with a Mercury chipset, 64 Mbyte
  RAM, Matrox Millenium II, two Western Digital disks, and it ran all
  previous FreeBSD releases perfectly for almost five years.
 
 Yeah I notice the RZ 1000 chips in there, BE CAREFULL, I wouldn't
 use this for anything I cared about...

For serious work I now have two BP6 based machines, this became just a
testmachine. I know about the possible data corruption problems with
RZ1000 chips, but I have never seen them with FreeBSD, despite the fact
that I did a "make world" every other week for more than two years.
However, if you run Linux or Solaris on this machine, and forget to
switch off the EIDE prefetch buffers, the results can be quite
dramatic...

Kind regards,

Hans

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Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 66643091 Hz, i8254 clock: 1300543 Hz
1300543 Hz differs from default of 1193182 Hz by more than 1%
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
TSC clock: 48650664 Hz (Method B)
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 48650664 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P5 (48.65-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x517  Stepping = 7
  Features=0x1bfFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8
real memory  = 67108864 (65536K bytes)
Physical memory chunk(s):
0x1000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages)
0x002d1000 - 0x03ff7fff, 64122880 bytes (15655 pages)
avail memory = 62267392 (60808K bytes)
bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00f0120
bios32: Entry = 0xf145c (c00f145c)  Rev = 0  Len = 1
pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0x1440
pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00f0130
pnpbios: Entry = f:1245  Rev = 1.0
Other BIOS signatures found:
ACPI: 
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02b8000.
Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug
pci_open(1):mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x
pci_open(1a):   mode1res=0x (0x8000)
pci_open(1b):   mode1res=0x (0xff01)
pci_open(2):mode 2 enable port (0x0cf8) is 0x00
pci_open(2a):   mode2res=0x0e (0x0e)
pci_open(2a):   now trying mechanism 2
pci_cfgcheck:   device 0 [class=06] [hdr=00] is there (id=04a38086)
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
i586_bzero() bandwidth = 54761513 bytes/sec
bzero() bandwidth = 27416038 bytes/sec
pci_open(1):mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x
pci_open(1a):   mode1res=0x (0x8000)
pci_open(1b):   mode1res=0x (0xff01)
pci_open(2):mode 2 enable port (0x0cf8) is 0x00
pci_open(2a):   mode2res=0x0e (0x0e)
pci_open(2a):   now trying mechanism 2
pci_cfgcheck:   device 0 [class=06] [hdr=00] is there (id=04a38086)
pcib0: Host to PCI bridge on motherboard
found- vendor=0x8086, dev=0x04a3, revid=0x03
class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
found- vendor=0x1042, dev=0x1000, revid=0x01
class=01-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 01f0, size  3
map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 03f4, size  2
found- vendor=0x8086, dev=0x0484, revid=0x03
class=00-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
found- vendor=0x102b, dev=0x051b, revid=0x00
class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
intpin=a, irq=11
map[10]: type 1, range 32, base a000, size 24
map[14]: type 1, range 32, base a100, size 14
map[18]: type 1, range 32, base a180, size 23
found- vendor=0x10b7, dev=0x9200, revid=0x74
class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
intpin=a, irq=10
map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 

Re: ata, DMA and the install floppies

2000-03-09 Thread Soren Schmidt

It seems John Hay wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have been trying to install yesterday's 4.0 snap on a no-name brand
 motherboard with the VIA chipset, but I'm running in some problems. I
 suspect there is a problem with the DMA. The error I'm getting when the
 disk is newfs'ed is a repeating:
 
 ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
 ata0: resetting devices .. done
 ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
 ata0: resetting devices .. done
 ...
 
 It seems that it is just going on and on. Shouldn't it back down to non
 DMA mode after a while? Is there a way to disable the DMA on the install
 floppies?

It should back down after 3 retries... But is is 3 retries pr request,
so say it gets through on the 2 retry each time this will continue..
I dont know if there is access to the sysctl knobs from the emergency
shell, but that would be a solution...

 Part of the probe looks like this: (written down by hand)
 
 atapci0: VIA 82C586 ATA33 controller port 0xe000 - 0xe00f at device 7.1 on pci0
 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
 ...
 ad0: 6204MB ST36531A [13446/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33

Hmm, wierd, did this hardware run FreeBSD before ??

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Re: ata, DMA and the install floppies

2000-03-09 Thread Samuel Tardieu

| ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
| ata0: resetting devices .. done
| ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
| ata0: resetting devices .. done
| ...
| 
| It seems that it is just going on and on. Shouldn't it back down to non
| DMA mode after a while? Is there a way to disable the DMA on the install
| floppies?

How many times did it retry? It looks like everything is in place to default
to PIO mode in this case, but you have allow it to try 3 times before it
fallbacks to PIO.

From ata-disk.c log:

revision 1.59
date: 2000/03/05 16:52:23;  author: sos;  state: Exp;  lines: +24 -24
[...]
Update the timeout code to try fallback to PIO if problems
arise in DMA mode.




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Re: ata, DMA and the install floppies

2000-03-09 Thread Kelly Yancey

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Samuel Tardieu wrote:

 This looks exactly like the problem I was having with my Compaq laptop, which
 could run 3.4 boot disks just fine but not 4.0 kernels. I was probably too
 lazy to wait until it reaches the 3 attempts, so I will try again :)
 

  What model laptop may I ask? I'm running 4.0-current since 1/11/2000
(last world rebuild 3/8/2000) on a Compaq Armada 7400 without incident.

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Re: ata, DMA and the install floppies

2000-03-09 Thread John Hay

  
  I have been trying to install yesterday's 4.0 snap on a no-name brand
  motherboard with the VIA chipset, but I'm running in some problems. I
  suspect there is a problem with the DMA. The error I'm getting when the
  disk is newfs'ed is a repeating:
  
  ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
  ata0: resetting devices .. done
  ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
  ata0: resetting devices .. done
  ...
  
  It seems that it is just going on and on. Shouldn't it back down to non
  DMA mode after a while? Is there a way to disable the DMA on the install
  floppies?
 
 It should back down after 3 retries... But is is 3 retries pr request,
 so say it gets through on the 2 retry each time this will continue..
 I dont know if there is access to the sysctl knobs from the emergency
 shell, but that would be a solution...

Well it is been doing fsck for more than an hour now. :-) This is
before the emergency shell is opened, but if I remember correctly,
sysctl is not part of tools available.

 
  Part of the probe looks like this: (written down by hand)
  
  atapci0: VIA 82C586 ATA33 controller port 0xe000 - 0xe00f at device 7.1 on pci0
  ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
  ...
  ad0: 6204MB ST36531A [13446/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
 
 Hmm, wierd, did this hardware run FreeBSD before ??

A similar system did run FreeBSD-3.4, but I never enabled DMA on it. I'll
try to install 3.4 on this one and see.

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Re: ata, DMA and the install floppies

2000-03-09 Thread Samuel Tardieu

|   What model laptop may I ask? I'm running 4.0-current since 1/11/2000
| (last world rebuild 3/8/2000) on a Compaq Armada 7400 without incident.

Armada V300. I sent the full details here a few days ago.



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FBSD4.0-20000307 install floppies and VAIO PCG-Z505HS

2000-03-09 Thread Larry Baird

Ran into an odd problem tring to install the 3/7 release of 4.0
onto my VAIO PCG-Z505HS.  The install hung while probing for plug
and play devices.  I had the BIOS set to non plug and play OS.
So just for grins I turned plug and play OS on in the bios and
tried again.  Installed without a hitch.  Of course I had to
then go back into the BIOS and turn off plug and play OS to get 
by USB devices working after the install. (-:  

Any thoughts?

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RC3 install floppies: panic: resource_list_alloc: resource entry is busy

2000-03-09 Thread Hans Ottevanger

Hi folks,

I just tried to boot the RC3 install floppies on my Pentium 66 testbox.
It gets through the config stage without trouble, but then panics
immediately with:

...
pcib0: Host to PCI bridge on motherboard
pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
atapci0: RZ 100? ATA controller !WARNING! buggy chip data loss
possible port 0
x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 1.0 on pci0
atapci0: Busmastering DMA not supported
panic: resource_list_alloc: resource entry is busy

I am also having this problem with 4.0-CURRENT kernels since February
18, both with my own custom kernel config and GENERIC.
I have to revert to the ata driver of February 17 or earlier to get the
system booting again, and then it runs perfectly.

This machine has an Intel motherboard with a Mercury chipset, 64 Mbyte
RAM, Matrox Millenium II, two Western Digital disks, and it ran all
previous FreeBSD releases perfectly for almost five years.

Anybody else having this problem ?
And before I start digging, any idea where to look for a solution, if it
makes sense at all ?

Kind regards,

Hans


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Re: FBSD4.0-20000307 install floppies and VAIO PCG-Z505HS

2000-03-09 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Larry Baird writes:
: then go back into the BIOS and turn off plug and play OS to get 
: by USB devices working after the install. (-:  
: 
: Any thoughts?

You should have turned off PNP OS in the BIOS to start with.  That's
the only setting that is supported.

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Re: FBSD4.0-20000307 install floppies and VAIO PCG-Z505HS

2000-03-09 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote:

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Larry Baird writes:
 : then go back into the BIOS and turn off plug and play OS to get 
 : by USB devices working after the install. (-:  
 : 
 : Any thoughts?
 
 You should have turned off PNP OS in the BIOS to start with.  That's
 the only setting that is supported.

Yes, but he said this caused the system to panic at boot. Thats why he
turned it off :)

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Re: ata, DMA and the install floppies

2000-03-09 Thread Shaun (UNIX)

Hello,
I was getting the same error, I have two HD's on a Addladin TXpro Chipset
and two CD-ROM drives.

I get ad1: READ command timeout -resetting
  ata0: resetting devices .. done
  ata0-slave: WARNING: WAIT_READY active=ATA_ACTIVE_ATA

BUT I have no ATA hard drives.

Another thing I noticed with the install, is when it is probing for
devices, it was trying to find PC_card0: 
but I had disable PC Card support in the kernel config (the install
conflict screen for the install floppies)

Anyways, other then that, things are going ok with my 4.0 RC3 install.


Cheers
Shaun

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, John Hay wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have been trying to install yesterday's 4.0 snap on a no-name brand
 motherboard with the VIA chipset, but I'm running in some problems. I
 suspect there is a problem with the DMA. The error I'm getting when the
 disk is newfs'ed is a repeating:
 
 ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
 ata0: resetting devices .. done
 ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
 ata0: resetting devices .. done
 ...
 
 It seems that it is just going on and on. Shouldn't it back down to non
 DMA mode after a while? Is there a way to disable the DMA on the install
 floppies?
 
 Part of the probe looks like this: (written down by hand)
 
 atapci0: VIA 82C586 ATA33 controller port 0xe000 - 0xe00f at device 7.1 on pci0
 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
 ...
 ad0: 6204MB ST36531A [13446/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
 
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Re: FINAL: Installation floppies and USB

2000-03-07 Thread Doug Barton

On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, John Daniels wrote:

 Oops:  That's kudos for John *Baldwin,* NOT "Barton."  A thousand pardons...

Hey... calling him Barton is a _compliment_!

:)

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RE: FINAL: installation floppies and USB

2000-03-06 Thread John Baldwin


On 07-Mar-00 John Daniels wrote:
 Hi:
 My installation problem has been solved.  For those of you who have not been 
 following "Installation floppies and USB," I have written a short synopsis 
 after my description of the resolution and conclusion.

Good, glad you got your system working.

 4- Although I was disappointed that FreeBSD did not support USB 
 “out-of-the-box,” I did not expect a lot of support (like I had as a paying 
 customer of RedHat’s).  NetBSD’s installation floppy did work and that was 
 my backup but I was encouraged to continue looking into my USB problem 
 because I found that FreeBSD developers were willing to be helpful.  This is 
 especially true of John Barton, who first volunteered to help, but also of 
 John Reynolds who elevated my problem to -current and Nick Hibma who 
 responded quickly and cogently.

This does need to be rectified.  I still want to build a USB-enabled release
and try to get it tested, or at least some custom boot floppies.  If I get
these built, I might ask to have you test them for me if you could.  The thing
is, while you may have been fortunate to find some PS/2 ports, a lot of new
motherboads are USB only.  I know because I have been looking at getting an
Athlon, and most of the Athlon motherboards are USB only.  Part of the problem
is that apparently USB cannot be compiled directly into the kernel.  Instead,
doing so results in an unstable kernel.  Instead, USB needs to be loaded via
kld's, which complicates the boot disks somewhat.

 5- Perhaps I am naïve, but stating that an OS “supports” a device is 
 confusing when that “support” has to be compiled in.  There should be a 
 sharper distinction between support out-of-the-box (in GENERIC) and 
 otherwise.  Part of the confusion stems from the fact that USB seems so 
 basic.  For example, almost any PC will “support” a hard disk and a printer 
 but most people would expect a hard disk to come with the machine.
 In fact, hardware.txt states:
 “The FreeBSD kernel on the install floppy contains drivers for every
 piece of hardware that could conceivably be used to install the rest
 of the system with.

As mentioned above, this is a definite concern that needs to be addressed.

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Re: FINAL: Installation floppies and USB

2000-03-06 Thread John Daniels

Oops:  That's kudos for John *Baldwin,* NOT "Barton."  A thousand pardons...
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FINAL: installation floppies and USB

2000-03-06 Thread John Daniels

Hi:
My installation problem has been solved.  For those of you who have not been 
following "Installation floppies and USB," I have written a short synopsis 
after my description of the resolution and conclusion.

SOLUTION:
I discovered that my Acer Aspire (model 6140) has two PS/2 ports (for 
keyboard and floppy).  I purchased a PS/2 mouse and keyboard and I no longer 
get the "keyboard:no" message (instead it says: keyboard:yes)!  (in fact, 
under W98, my USB keyboard and mouse, and my PS/2 keyboard and mouse all 
work simultaneously.)

DISCUSSION:
I have not seen any messages about this problem, since it turned into a BIOS 
discussion with the recommendation that I change the BIOS parameter "PnP OS" 
from YES to NO.  FYI: Changing this parameter made no difference to the 
installation before or after I hooked up the PS/2 keyboard and mouse.  It 
may make a difference at some later point.

The PS/2 ports are hidden by a two different coverings: 1- a plastic molding 
that is screwed on and, 2- a plastic sheet that is glued on.  No 
consumer-oriented documentation mentions the PS/2 ports.  I only found out 
about them from: 1- a somewhat confusing email in which it was unclear if 
the writer had the same model and what the exact location of the ports were, 
2- the motherboard specs which happened to be on the Acer Aspire website, 
which prompted a more through searching of my system.

I had previously looked at the Acer website and knew it to have very little 
information.  The Acer site doesn’t even have a search function.  I only 
went back hoping to find if there were any BIOS updates (there were none).  
Two previous calls to Acer support describing my problems installing a new 
operation system ended with the response: "we don't support Linux or 
FreeBSD" -- with no mention of the possibility of using the PS/2 ports.

As far as BIOS updates: I finally found that Acer Germany provided them 
(www.acer.de/support/techinfo/bios.htm) -- and one of these BIOS updates was 
specifically for “Linux support!” (this might also be needed for FreeBSD but 
I have not downloaded this because I don’t want to fool with my BIOS unless 
absolutely necessary.)  I called Acer USA again but they had no idea that 
this site existed or why there was a BIOS update for Linux (even though the 
technician told me that he ran Linux (at home?))

I came to FreeBSD because I had learned that it “supported” USB but like 
Linux, USB support must be compiled in after installing the GENERIC 
kernel/system.  I had purchased RedHat (before I found FreeBSD), but when I 
called RedHat support and described my system (with USB keyboard and mouse), 
I was told only that “Linux doesn’t support USB.”

CONCLUSIONS:
1- “-Dh” at the boot loader’s “boot:” allowed the boot loader to load 
FreeBSD but when the FreeBSD GENERIC kernel was booted, the system may have 
been looking for input from the PS/2 port. (which I had no knowledge of!).  
Somehow NetBSD’s GENERIC kernel recognized my USB keyboard, because: 1- it 
could use the same mechanism as the boot loader (whatever that may be), 2- 
it has a better ability for finding devices dynamically (at least for 
keyboards), or 3- it supports USB.

2-Acer needs to provide better documentation.

3-Major Linux vendors, like RedHat, which have aspirations for Linux as a 
consumer "desktop" OS should have already come across this problem with Acer 
machines (along with quirkiness of other machines/manufacturers).  I would 
have also liked to see a willingness on their part to find a solution, 
instead of just spouting policy.  There was no willingness from RH or SuSE 
to provide a boot disk with a recompiled kernel (SuSE sponsored the backport 
that enables USB support in Linux’s STABLE kernel)

4- Although I was disappointed that FreeBSD did not support USB 
“out-of-the-box,” I did not expect a lot of support (like I had as a paying 
customer of RedHat’s).  NetBSD’s installation floppy did work and that was 
my backup but I was encouraged to continue looking into my USB problem 
because I found that FreeBSD developers were willing to be helpful.  This is 
especially true of John Barton, who first volunteered to help, but also of 
John Reynolds who elevated my problem to -current and Nick Hibma who 
responded quickly and cogently.

5- Perhaps I am naïve, but stating that an OS “supports” a device is 
confusing when that “support” has to be compiled in.  There should be a 
sharper distinction between support out-of-the-box (in GENERIC) and 
otherwise.  Part of the confusion stems from the fact that USB seems so 
basic.  For example, almost any PC will “support” a hard disk and a printer 
but most people would expect a hard disk to come with the machine.
In fact, hardware.txt states:
“The FreeBSD kernel on the install floppy contains drivers for every
piece of hardware that could conceivably be used to install the rest
of the system with.”

SYNOPSIS OF PRO

BIOS settings (was Instrallation floppies and USB)

2000-03-03 Thread Navan Carson

 Plug and Play OS   [Yes]

 Should be No.


How does this setting effect traditional ISA, PNP ISA, PCI cards.


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Re: BIOS settings (was Instrallation floppies and USB)

2000-03-03 Thread Nikolai Saoukh

On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 08:50:07PM +0900, Takanori Watanabe wrote:

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Navan Carson wrote:
  Plug and Play OS   [Yes]
 
  Should be No.
 
 
 How does this setting effect traditional ISA, PNP ISA, PCI cards.
 
 
 This setting tells BIOS not to set any PnP setting,
 because OS itself want to  set it arbitary.
 And any version FreeBSD ever have been released expects BIOS to
 set PnP setting.

Well,
what then pnp stuff (/usr/src/sys/isa/pnp*) do in -current?


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Re: BIOS settings (was Instrallation floppies and USB)

2000-03-03 Thread takawata

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nikolai Saoukh wrote:
 And any version FreeBSD ever have been released expects BIOS to
 set PnP setting.

Well,
what then pnp stuff (/usr/src/sys/isa/pnp*) do in -current?

They can 
1. reads PnP setting from ISA PnP system.
2. write PnP setting as User specified.

And there is no *automatic* PnP setting capability yet ,as far as I know.

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Re: BIOS settings (was Instrallation floppies and USB)

2000-03-03 Thread Nick Hibma


  Plug and Play OS   [Yes]
 
  Should be No.
 
 
 How does this setting effect traditional ISA, PNP ISA, PCI cards.

Some might not be initiased. The basic point is that FreeBSD does not do
the device enumeration and therefore any device that has not been
configured by the BIOS or the previous OS (like Windows) is not
accessable.

Sometimes the BIOS wipes the configuration upon reboot and in that case
the settings Windows has left behind are no longer available.

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Re: BIOS settings (was Instrallation floppies and USB)

2000-03-03 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nikolai Saoukh writes:
: what then pnp stuff (/usr/src/sys/isa/pnp*) do in -current?

That just deals with the isa pnp expansion cards.  the PnP BIOS
setting to "no" means that the BIOS will enable all the PnP (not just
ISA add on cards) devices before passing control to the os.  With it
set to yes, the OS has to do this activation, and FreeBSD doesn't do
that yet.

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Re: Instrallation floppies and USB

2000-03-02 Thread Nick Hibma


[Just a quick response, some things to try will follow this evening.]
Configuration Table[Disabled]
PCI IRQ setting[Auto]
PCI IRQ sharing[No]

should be Yes.

Plug and Play OS   [Yes]

Should be No.

 I thought that PCI IRQ sharing might allow for dynamic assignment of IRQs, 
 but changing this to 'Yes' had no effect.

It should be on anyway. FreeBSD supports. In the future you might add
more hardware which makes you run out of IRQs

 I thought that Reset Resource Assignments might enable the OS to set 
 resouces (IRQ, etc) but everytime I looked at this after I had chosen 'Yes,' 
 it had been set back to 'No.'  Acer support tells me that all this does is 
 reset the resources back to their original values.

You'll see a message saying 'Updating ESCD...' etc.

 1. When I try to boot the kern.flp disk, I get the message:
/boot.config: -P
Keyboard: no
 Booting continues but the keyboard is unusable unless I immmediately hit the 
 space bar then type '-Dh' at the 'boot:' prompt as described in the 
 TROUBLE.TXT document in the -CURRENT snapshot directory.  NOTE: That 
 document says that the '-Dh' workaround is meant for older systems with an 
 84-key keyboard, but it is working for my 1999 Acer Asprire with a 102-key 
 USB keyboard!

That means the BIOS emulates a XT/AT style keyboard.

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Re: Installation floppies and USB

2000-03-02 Thread John Daniels

Hi:
One more *possible* "clue."

Just before the kernel configuration screen appears (this screen fills up 
the screen, replacing diagnostic/bootup messages), I get a one-line message 
that includes the terms "timer" and "frequency" along with some numbers 
(that may be in hexadecmial).

This maybe normal boot-up behavior but I searched the mailing list archives 
and noticed that the timer was rewritten for 3.0 and that there were some 
messages/problems concerning the timer in the archives.

See:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/3.0R/notes.html
Which states:
" The timeout(9) system in the kernel has been overhauled.  This gives
  O(1) insertion and removal of callouts and an O(hash chain length)
  amount of work to be performed in softclock.  The original paper is at:
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~amc/research/timer/
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Re: Installation floppies and USB

2000-03-02 Thread John Daniels

Hi:
I apologize for another post.  This note should have been included in my 
last post.

I wanted to point out that the description of the timer (at the URL 
provided) lists a couple of known problems, with an explanation as to why 
the developer could not fix them.  I don't know if they have been fixed 
since that description, or how relevent these problems may be to my 
situation.

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Re: Installation floppies and USB

2000-03-01 Thread John Daniels

Phoenix wrote:
If it is the same kind of acer as I have you may be in luck,
hidden away on the back panel hidden behind a sticker and a
metal knockout there are 2 ps/2 style connectors. Pull the
top off of your box and see if you have them (near the parrellel
port) I have been running -current on this box for a month
with no problems other than having to use a normal keyboard for
the install.

I have an Acer Aspire model 6140 (a PIII 450 system).  The system has 
plastic molding in the back that covers 2 serial ports (only one of which is 
supposed to work), and a game port.  I pulled off the metal case for the 
system as a whole but did not see any ps/2 ports or other ports.

I have looked for an ISA or PCI card that might have a ps/2 or AT-style port 
for a keyboard but I have not been able to find one.  I have also tried to 
find a keyboard that would use a COM port but that is also non-existant.

Anyway, thanks for your input.

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Re: Installation floppies and USB

2000-03-01 Thread John Daniels

Phoenix wrote:
If it is the same kind of acer as I have you may be in luck, hidden 
away on the back panel hidden behind a sticker and a metal knockout there 
are 2 ps/2 style connectors. Pull the top off of your box and see if you 
have them (near the parrellel port) I have been running -current on this 
box for a month with no problems other than having to use a normal keyboard 
for the install.

I have an Acer Aspire model 6140 (a PIII 450 system).  The system has
plastic molding in the back that covers 2 serial ports (only one of which is 
supposed to work), and a game port.  I pulled off the metal case for the 
system as a whole but did not see any ps/2 ports or other ports.

I have looked for an ISA or PCI card that might have a ps/2 or AT-style port 
for a keyboard but I have not been able to find one.  I have also tried to 
find a keyboard that would use a COM port but that is also non-existant.

Anyway, thanks for your input.

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Re: Instrallation floppies and USB

2000-03-01 Thread John Daniels

Hi:
I looked in BIOS setup to see if there were any settings that I could try 
changing to make the boot floopies work.  The only ones that I found that 
seemed to apply were (defaults in brackets):
   Configuration Table[Disabled]
   PCI IRQ setting[Auto]
   PCI IRQ sharing[No]
   Plug and Play OS   [Yes]
   Reset Resource Assignments [No]

I thought that the Configuration Table might provide the ability to change 
settings (IRQ, etc.) but it only summarized system specs.  (Among these, it 
showed USB 'enabled')

I didn't change PCI IRQ setting.

I thought that PCI IRQ sharing might allow for dynamic assignment of IRQs, 
but changing this to 'Yes' had no effect.

Disabling Plug and Play had no effect

I thought that Reset Resource Assignments might enable the OS to set 
resouces (IRQ, etc) but everytime I looked at this after I had chosen 'Yes,' 
it had been set back to 'No.'  Acer support tells me that all this does is 
reset the resources back to their original values.

In sum, I was not able to change anything with the changes that I made.  I 
also went to the Acer support site to see if there were any BIOS or device 
updates for my system.  I didn't find any.

I am registered with Acer support and I would be happy to provide the 
information needed (Toll free phone number, system serial number, my 
customer id #, etc.) for Nick Hibma or another developer to contact them if 
that would be helpful.  FYI, I also have a 160Kbps DSL connection so if 
anyone wants me to test reconstructed boot disks/kernels, I can do that.  (I 
believe that John Baldwin has been looking into this.)

To summarize the problem and the clues that we now have:

1. When I try to boot the kern.flp disk, I get the message:
   /boot.config: -P
   Keyboard: no
Booting continues but the keyboard is unusable unless I immmediately hit the 
space bar then type '-Dh' at the 'boot:' prompt as described in the 
TROUBLE.TXT document in the -CURRENT snapshot directory.  NOTE: That 
document says that the '-Dh' workaround is meant for older systems with an 
84-key keyboard, but it is working for my 1999 Acer Asprire with a 102-key 
USB keyboard!

2. The installation boots the kernel but immediately after the kernel config 
screen appears (with 3 options: no config, full screen, CLI), the system 
becomes unusable.

3. The floppy drive light remains on, as though the floopy is awaiting 
instructions or has been interrupted in data transfer.

4. I have provided my complete system specs and resource usage in an earlier 
post.  It appears that there may be some resource conflicts.  My system uses 
IRQ 11 for the Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller, while 
FreeBSD uses IRQ 11 for an adaptec SCSI Controller. My keyboard and 
FreeBSD's use of IRQ12 and IOMem 0060h may also be a problem. (This is not 
an exhaustive list of possible conflicts)

5. I can boot the NetBSD installation disk and use my keyboard to select 
options (e.g. configure my NIC) so this may provide some additional info or 
a possible roadmap to a solution.  For example, does it dynamically find 
resources for more devices than FreeBSD (especially the Adaptec SCSI 
controller and keyboards/mice)?  Does NetBSD provide support for USB 
keyboards in their installation kernel?
Etc.

John

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Re: Installation floppies and USB

2000-02-28 Thread Phoenix


If it is the same kind of acer as I have you may be in luck,
hidden away on the back panel hidden behind a sticker and a
metal knockout there are 2 ps/2 style connectors. Pull the
top off of your box and see if you have them (near the parrellel
port) I have been running -current on this box for a month
with no problems other than having to use a normal keyboard for
the install.

also Nick Himba

Seeing that your USB controller fails to work properly when the FreeBSD
kernel takes over, I bet somewhere there is a problem with shared
interrupts.

Because a USB keyboard here works either with USB support or without USB
support compiled in.

I had the same problem on my box, Ie. the usb controler wont do
emulation at boot under freebsd, strangly the same box ran linux
for 6 months witout the usb stack loaded and the keyboard worked
fine, it just broke when I loaded the stack. works fine now as
long as my freebsd kernel has usb enabled.

Bob



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[forwarded from -questions to the above groups because this seems to be a
legit "problem" and I wanted the "right eyes" in -current to see it. ]

--- start of forwarded message ---
From: "John Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Installation floppies and USB
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:19:50 EST

I have a system with only a *USB* keyboard port (no PS/2 or AT-style ports). 
  When I boot the installation floppies I get the message:
  keyboard:no
After reading errata,release notes, etc., I learned that I should hit
'enter' and type '-Dh' at the prompt, which I did.  Now the installation 
proceeds until the kernel is booted and the kernel configuration menu is 
displayed (with 3 options: skip config, full-screen, CLI-mode).  At that 
point my keyboard becomes unusable.  I believe that this may be because the 
kernel ('GENERIC'?) doesn't include USB support.  USB support is supposed to 
be compiled in *after* an install.

For my system, this is unacceptable.  I now have a catch-22: I can't get USB 
support until the kernel is recompiled, and I can't recompile the kernel 
unless I can use the keyboard to install FreeBSD.

My system was created by a major PC Manufacturer (Acer) and I'm sure that 
they have sold thousands like it.  I'm sure that they are not/will not be 
the only manufacturer to create USB-only systems.  My system uses Human 
Interface Devices (HID) USB.  It is *CRUCIAL* that USB keyboards be 
recognized "out-of-the-box" for current and future systems that only support
USB keyboards.

QUESTION: Are there work currently andy arounds/solutions in FreeBSD?  When 
can USB be available "out-of-the-box?" (I was hoping it would be in 4.0) 
Lastly, the NetBSD install floppy recognizes my keyboard and lets me use it 
during the install.  Is there any possible workaround that includes booting 
the NetBSD install disk, or installing FreeBSD over/after NetBSD?

NOTE: There has already been at least one other FreeBSD newbie who has 
encountered this problem (also with an Acer box), and there seems to be a 
fair amount of USB questions/discussion online.

Any info/help is greatly appreciated

John
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Installation floppies and USB

2000-02-28 Thread John Reynolds~


[forwarded from -questions to the above groups because this seems to be a
legit "problem" and I wanted the "right eyes" in -current to see it. ]

--- start of forwarded message ---
From: "John Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Installation floppies and USB
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:19:50 EST

I have a system with only a *USB* keyboard port (no PS/2 or AT-style ports). 
  When I boot the installation floppies I get the message:
  keyboard:no
After reading errata,release notes, etc., I learned that I should hit
'enter' and type '-Dh' at the prompt, which I did.  Now the installation 
proceeds until the kernel is booted and the kernel configuration menu is 
displayed (with 3 options: skip config, full-screen, CLI-mode).  At that 
point my keyboard becomes unusable.  I believe that this may be because the 
kernel ('GENERIC'?) doesn't include USB support.  USB support is supposed to 
be compiled in *after* an install.

For my system, this is unacceptable.  I now have a catch-22: I can't get USB 
support until the kernel is recompiled, and I can't recompile the kernel 
unless I can use the keyboard to install FreeBSD.

My system was created by a major PC Manufacturer (Acer) and I'm sure that 
they have sold thousands like it.  I'm sure that they are not/will not be 
the only manufacturer to create USB-only systems.  My system uses Human 
Interface Devices (HID) USB.  It is *CRUCIAL* that USB keyboards be 
recognized "out-of-the-box" for current and future systems that only support
USB keyboards.

QUESTION: Are there work currently andy arounds/solutions in FreeBSD?  When 
can USB be available "out-of-the-box?" (I was hoping it would be in 4.0) 
Lastly, the NetBSD install floppy recognizes my keyboard and lets me use it 
during the install.  Is there any possible workaround that includes booting 
the NetBSD install disk, or installing FreeBSD over/after NetBSD?

NOTE: There has already been at least one other FreeBSD newbie who has 
encountered this problem (also with an Acer box), and there seems to be a 
fair amount of USB questions/discussion online.

Any info/help is greatly appreciated

John
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Re: Installation floppies and USB

2000-02-28 Thread MAEKAWA Masahide

John Reynolds~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[forwarded from -questions to the above groups because this seems to be a
legit "problem" and I wanted the "right eyes" in -current to see it. ]

I have a system with only a *USB* keyboard port (no PS/2 or AT-style ports). 
  When I boot the installation floppies I get the message:

My machine has "USB keyboard support" in BIOS menu.
If your BIOS is AWARD's one, check your bios.
Maybe it's in Chipset Features Setup section.
BIOS uses USB keyboards as legacy.

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Re: Installation floppies and USB

2000-02-28 Thread Nick Hibma


Seeing that your USB controller fails to work properly when the FreeBSD
kernel takes over, I bet somewhere there is a problem with shared
interrupts.

Because a USB keyboard here works either with USB support or without USB
support compiled in.

The only solution for you would be to compile a new kernel on a
different system that includes USB support, or use a module that you
load before the kernel is booted.

And yes, USB only machines will be supported at some stage. But at the
moment the USB kernel is too flakey to be in GENERIC.

Nick

On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, John Reynolds~ wrote:

 
 [forwarded from -questions to the above groups because this seems to be a
 legit "problem" and I wanted the "right eyes" in -current to see it. ]
 
 --- start of forwarded message ---
 From: "John Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Installation floppies and USB
 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:19:50 EST
 
 I have a system with only a *USB* keyboard port (no PS/2 or AT-style ports). 
   When I boot the installation floppies I get the message:
   keyboard:no
 After reading errata,release notes, etc., I learned that I should hit
 'enter' and type '-Dh' at the prompt, which I did.  Now the installation 
 proceeds until the kernel is booted and the kernel configuration menu is 
 displayed (with 3 options: skip config, full-screen, CLI-mode).  At that 
 point my keyboard becomes unusable.  I believe that this may be because the 
 kernel ('GENERIC'?) doesn't include USB support.  USB support is supposed to 
 be compiled in *after* an install.
 
 For my system, this is unacceptable.  I now have a catch-22: I can't get USB 
 support until the kernel is recompiled, and I can't recompile the kernel 
 unless I can use the keyboard to install FreeBSD.
 
 My system was created by a major PC Manufacturer (Acer) and I'm sure that 
 they have sold thousands like it.  I'm sure that they are not/will not be 
 the only manufacturer to create USB-only systems.  My system uses Human 
 Interface Devices (HID) USB.  It is *CRUCIAL* that USB keyboards be 
 recognized "out-of-the-box" for current and future systems that only support
 USB keyboards.
 
 QUESTION: Are there work currently andy arounds/solutions in FreeBSD?  When 
 can USB be available "out-of-the-box?" (I was hoping it would be in 4.0) 
 Lastly, the NetBSD install floppy recognizes my keyboard and lets me use it 
 during the install.  Is there any possible workaround that includes booting 
 the NetBSD install disk, or installing FreeBSD over/after NetBSD?
 
 NOTE: There has already been at least one other FreeBSD newbie who has 
 encountered this problem (also with an Acer box), and there seems to be a 
 fair amount of USB questions/discussion online.
 
 Any info/help is greatly appreciated
 
 John
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Re: Floppies and laptops

1999-04-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message 4.1.19990426221303.00924...@216.67.14.69 Forrest Aldrich writes:
: mfsroot that would be more apt to find your PCMCIA card?   Would be a really
: handy tool/option to have.

More generally, it would be nice to have support for pccards on the
boot disk.  There is work in progress to make this happen.

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Re: Floppies and laptops

1999-04-27 Thread John Polstra
In article 199904271419.iaa17...@harmony.village.org,
Warner Losh  i...@harmony.village.org wrote:
 
 More generally, it would be nice to have support for pccards on the
 boot disk.  There is work in progress to make this happen.

Yes!  We need this.

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Re: Floppies and laptops

1999-04-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message 199904271921.maa05...@vashon.polstra.com John Polstra writes:
: Yes!  We need this.

I have the sysinstall patches from the PAO people.  Plus I've started
working on an all kernel design for what pccardd is now doing.  This
should obviate the need for pccardd on the floppies.  There may be
more hacking to sysinstall needed to get it to rescan devices, since
it would be nice to be able to plug in devices at anytime, just just
right after you booted the floppy.  However, this is long term stuff.
The short term plans I have are getting the pcic stuff working in the
newbus framework, as well as including the initial patches from PAO to
pccardd and sysinstall to at least give the snaps something that is
easier to install on laptops.  I had to jump through too many to get
my machine up and running.

Once I get the pccard stuff working, I may go after cardbus.

Geeze, all of this so I can get the pccard support working in Soren's
new driver so I can read/write compact flash cards on my FreeBSD
machine so I can put them into a WinCE palmtop I have

Warner


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Floppies and laptops

1999-04-26 Thread Forrest Aldrich
I realize there are only so many drivers you can crunch on a floppy... with
that in mind, and with the advent of many laptops comnig about that people
would like to net-install, would it not be more practical to provide an
alternate
mfsroot that would be more apt to find your PCMCIA card?   Would be a really
handy tool/option to have.

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Re: make release produces unbootable boot floppies, no boot loader, no /kernel

1999-01-21 Thread David Wolfskill
From: John W. DeBoskey j...@unx.sas.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:54:36 -0500 (EST)

   If you really want to make things easier for the beginner, why
not provide a DOS boot program. Then you wouldn't even have to
worry about boot floppies. Tell new folks to copy the boot program
to the DOS partition and run it from DOS. Case closed. No boot
floppy required. I can imagine half a dozen ways to make this work.

Although I'll cheerfully admit that I'm probably in the minority in this
respect, such an approach would do me not one whit of good, since, given
a desired objective, I have no idea how to make MS-DOS accomplish it.
(I'm coming at FreeBSD with no background in PCs at all, about 12+ years
working with UNIX, about 12 years as an IBM mainframe (MVS) systems
programmer, and some years before that of various other types of systems.
In my (somewhat limited) experience, when I've tried to use MS-DOS for
anything, more than half the time either the application or the machine
would hang or crash; thus, I'd be hard-pressed to advocate reliance upon
that mechanism for anything of perceived importance.)

Cheers,
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Re: make release produces unbootable boot floppies, no boot loader, no /kernel

1999-01-20 Thread John W. DeBoskey

   Well, FWIW, I've been modifying my local 'make release' to produce
a 2.88M boot floppy, which I then use as the boot image when I burn a
CD of the SNAP. Works like a champ.

   Thus, the isofs creation is a straight run of the code in 
examples/worm and cdrecord:

sh /usr/share/examples/worm/makecdfs.sh \
   -b ${SNAP} /cdwork/disc1 /cdwork/cd1.image \
  ${SNAP} (c) FreeBSD  \
cd /cdwork  cdrecord dev=5,0 speed=4 -v cd1.image



   If I hop on my soapbox, I'd really like to see a single floppy
network install which supports nfs(which I also re-enable on the
normal boot.flp since it fits on the 2.88M image).


oh well,
John


 Mike Smith wrote:
 
   This sounds like booting/installing from CD-ROM is currently
   impossible as well ???
 
  That's correct.  We're looking at having to move to a harddisk
  emulation mode to get this back on track.
 
 Would a 2.88M virtual floppy for the CD-ROM boot image be a quick fix, or is
 it too much work?
 
 
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Re: make release produces unbootable boot floppies, no boot loader, no /kernel

1999-01-20 Thread Mike Smith
If I hop on my soapbox, I'd really like to see a single floppy
 network install which supports nfs(which I also re-enable on the
 normal boot.flp since it fits on the 2.88M image).

The problem is that there are too many people standing on too many 
different soapboxes.  Each and every one of you wants a different 
combination of stuff on the One True Boot Floppy.

I'm sure you can see what's wrong with this picture.

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Re: make release produces unbootable boot floppies, no boot loader, no /kernel

1999-01-20 Thread John W. DeBoskey
hi,

   Hang on a second... I think you might be putting words in my
mouth... I'm not saying that the nfs boot floppy is the One True
Boot Floppy.  I see no reason why we can't have a netboot.flp and
a dskboot.flp created.

   If you really want to make things easier for the beginner, why
not provide a DOS boot program. Then you wouldn't even have to
worry about boot floppies. Tell new folks to copy the boot program
to the DOS partition and run it from DOS. Case closed. No boot
floppy required. I can imagine half a dozen ways to make this work.

   However, I don't really want the above. I'd simply like to see
a netboot.flp become a standard part of the distribution. There are
others on the list besides myself who have said they would like to
see this. It's simple to do, just a few extra commands in the
release.8 target.

   Unfortunately, I'm not a committer, and it really isn't a
technical question... It's a political issue... FreeBSD seems to
want 'The One True Floppy'...

Oh well,
Thanks for listening!
John

   I said:

 If I hop on my soapbox, I'd really like to see a single floppy
  network install which supports nfs(which I also re-enable on the
  normal boot.flp since it fits on the 2.88M image).
 
  and Mike replied:

 The problem is that there are too many people standing on too many 
 different soapboxes.  Each and every one of you wants a different 
 combination of stuff on the One True Boot Floppy.
 
 I'm sure you can see what's wrong with this picture.
 
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Re: make release produces unbootable boot floppies, no boot loader, no /kernel

1999-01-20 Thread Mike Smith
Hang on a second... I think you might be putting words in my
 mouth... I'm not saying that the nfs boot floppy is the One True
 Boot Floppy.  I see no reason why we can't have a netboot.flp and
 a dskboot.flp created.

The slicing that's being contemplated at the moment is actually
install from CDROM and install from anywhere else.  The CDROM 
support actually covers a reasonable amount of code (although there are 
some angsty issues about ATAPI ZIP/LS120 disks still).

If you really want to make things easier for the beginner, why
 not provide a DOS boot program. Then you wouldn't even have to
 worry about boot floppies. Tell new folks to copy the boot program
 to the DOS partition and run it from DOS. Case closed. No boot
 floppy required. I can imagine half a dozen ways to make this work.

Please read everything that Robert Nordier has written about how it's
not possible to boot once DOS has started.  Or take it from me - we have
canned support for that mode of operation and we're not going back.

Unfortunately, I'm not a committer, and it really isn't a
 technical question... It's a political issue... FreeBSD seems to
 want 'The One True Floppy'...

Not really; and if you have diffs that let us split into a couple of
cleanly separated floppies with no missing cases then we would 
enthusiastically leap onboard.  But net/no-net isn't enough of a 
dividing line.  We're pretty much resigned to the death of one true 
floppy.  8(


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Re: make release produces unbootable boot floppies, no boot loader, no /kernel

1999-01-19 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
I've been taking the last few days off, but I intend to get to
this this week and fix whatever's broken.  Don't panic. :)

 On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 09:52:26PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote:
   Hi ! Bad news, make release still produces non bootable floppies.
   I cvsupped yesterday evening at 8pm and did a make world and
   make release 
   
   Now I tried the boot.flp image from the ftp subdir in /R/
   
   First error message
 No /boot/loader
   Then the typical boot banner
   2nd error message
 No /kernel
   When typing ?
 . .. kernel.gz
   When typing kernel.gz to load this kernel
 invalid format
  
  Of course, it's gzipped.
  
   Well, there is _still_ something wron, believe me.
  
  The single-floppy install is broken.  Use the two-floppy install as 
  I've been encouraging people to do now since the 12th.
 
 This sounds like booting/installing from CD-ROM is currently
 impossible as well ???
 
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Re: make release produces unbootable boot floppies, no boot loader, no /kernel

1999-01-19 Thread Drew Derbyshire
Mike Smith wrote:

  This sounds like booting/installing from CD-ROM is currently
  impossible as well ???

 That's correct.  We're looking at having to move to a harddisk
 emulation mode to get this back on track.

Would a 2.88M virtual floppy for the CD-ROM boot image be a quick fix, or is
it too much work?


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Re: make release produces unbootable boot floppies, no boot loader, no /kernel

1999-01-19 Thread Brian J. McGovern
Wouldn't it be possible to use a 2.88MB boot image? Most of the documentation
I've read states that this should be supportable on machines that understand
2.88MB floppies Or, have we outgrown that already?
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Re: make release produces unbootable boot floppies, no boot loader, no /kernel

1999-01-19 Thread Mike Smith
 Wouldn't it be possible to use a 2.88MB boot image? Most of the documentation
 I've read states that this should be supportable on machines that understand
 2.88MB floppies Or, have we outgrown that already?

How many systems have you seen with 2.88MB floppy drives?

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