Where is that branch ???

2006-11-18 Thread Ne'Bahn

Hi list, I was reading the handbook for the -STABLE branch, but no answer,
the actual realeases are -CURRENT and -PRODUCTION; I don't see any -STABLE
on site, I should assume that -PRODUCTION is the stable branch ??? Am I 
wrong ???


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Re: Opera and FreeBSD

2006-11-18 Thread Bachilo Dmitry
В сообщении от Суббота 18 ноября 2006 10:38 Parv написал(a):
 in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 wrote Bachilo Dmitry thusly...

  FreeBSD is not Linux, FreeBSD is UNIX.

 Close but not quite.  FreeBSD is Unix not UNIX; difference is in the
 money to be paid to be certified as all capitals.


 ... Unless you were going for the emphasis. :)


   - Parv

I was :-)))

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Re: Propose for a PCMCIA wireless card for laptops

2006-11-18 Thread Preston Hagar

I have a Edimax EW-7108PCg that works great under Linux: (
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=253490prodlist=nextag)
The reason it works great is because Edimax is great at giving documentation
to developers to write drivers for it.  I found this for OpenBSD:
http://m0n0.ch/wall/list/showmsg.php?id=147/83  Messages back from 2005 that
the OpenBSD team had received drives for it.  I didn't find anything right
away for FreeBSD, but you might could find some confirmation with a little
searching.  Anyway, it is a great card, I got it at newegg for $25, but they
don't seem to have it anymore.  Zipzoomfly does though (link above) for $30
with a $5 MIR.  Anyway, I know this isn't the absolute confirmation you
probably hoped for, but at least it might give you a card with good
potential to research a little more or try.

HTH,

Preston

On 11/16/06, Frozen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey,

anyone who can propose for a (quite cheap) PCMCIA wireless card for
laptops,
easily supported by FreeBSD ?
cause i recently found a pcmcia D-Link 610 wireless card, managed to
enable
her but doesn't function properly as it should..

Thanks in advance,
Frozen
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Re: Need help with Gnome and Video card

2006-11-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 11/15/06, Ne'Bahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

my conf looks like:

HorizSync31.5, 35.15, 35.5
VertRefresh50-70
Section Device
IdentifierStandard VGA
VendorNameUnknown
BoardName  Unknown

Drivervga
Section Screen
...
DefaultDepth24
Subsection Display
Depth16
Modes800x600 1024x768 1280x1024
ViewPort0 0
...

So I have the same trouble, very low resolution (BIG characters), and about
4 colors depth (black, white, pink, cyan or some kind similar), like the old
ones EGA...


Your HorizSync  VertRefresh lines are _extremely_
conservative, add another Monitor section, populated
as you wish with funny names:

Section Monitor
   Identifier   LlamaLlanoLlautu
   VendorName   Nancy Pelosi
   ModelNameTim Curry
   HorizSync 31-92  # Note:  Do Not Use These
   VertRefresh 55-160 # Numbers, Look It Up For
   # Your Monitor.  You can do
   # real damage with bad numbers.
   # (It is actually an NEC E750)
EndSection
. . .
Section Screen
   Identifier Screen0
   Device Card0
   MonitorLlamaLlanoLlautu
. . .

I would think that the limit on the number of possible
Monitor definitions would be quite large, you might
want to leave the default vga stuff in there, just in case
you happen to need it at some point, just change the
Screen section to reflect what you are using.

http://www.monitorworld.com/monitors_home.html

has been quite useful to me in the past looking up refresh
rates on equipment for which I did not have the documentation.

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Re: Opera and FreeBSD

2006-11-18 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Bachilo Dmitry thusly...

 FreeBSD is not Linux, FreeBSD is UNIX.

Close but not quite.  FreeBSD is Unix not UNIX; difference is in the
money to be paid to be certified as all capitals.


... Unless you were going for the emphasis. :)


  - Parv

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Re: Where is that branch ???

2006-11-18 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin

On 11/17/06, Ne'Bahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi list, I was reading the handbook for the -STABLE
branch, but no answer, the actual realeases are
-CURRENT and -PRODUCTION; I don't see any -STABLE
on site, I should assume that -PRODUCTION is the
stable branch ??? Am I wrong ???


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html
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Unsubscribe me please

2006-11-18 Thread Clyde's Human Unit

Dear FreeBSD,

I have no idea how this has happened, but somehow I have been put on 
your mailing lists.


I do not use your products or service and it has no application for me.

I would appreciate it if you would remove me from your mailing list.

Sincerely,

--
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Re: State of gvinum RAID-5

2006-11-18 Thread Jorn Argelo

Michael L. Squires wrote:



On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Felix 'buebo' Kakrow wrote:


Hello List,
I tried gvinum RAID-5 with a 5-Stable around the time when 5.1 or 5.2
was released (afair) and back then it basically sucked big time. Raid
worked as long as nothing failed, but reconstructing a drive was
somewhere between very painful and not possible.

Now I will have to upgrade hardware soon, which means I could switch
from NetBSD (and Raidframe) to FreeBSD (with gvinum) again. I would
like to because NetBSD seems to have some kind of memory leak in
connection with Samba and large or many files, but I'd rather have a
somewhat unstable Samba than an unstable Raid, so what's the state of
affairs?

Cheers
Felix


I'm about to try; I have my home server stuck at 4.11 because I could 
never get gvinum to work reliably with 5.x, and the drives I had wouldn't

work with two different hardware RAID controllers (ex EMC ST446xxx's,
a DPT/Adaptec controller and a LSI controller - apparently only certain
EMC BIOS versions will work, and I don't have them).

I did find a posting by someone who installed gvinum/RAID5 recently 
(under

6.X) but there was nothing about stability.

Mike Squires
UNIX(tm) at home
since 1986

I'm running gvinum on a PowerEdge 2450 with an external Adaptec SCSI 
card connected to a PowerVault 712 (I think, at least an old one), also 
running RAID 5. This runs on FreeBSD 6.1. It was not that hard to set it 
up, as the handbook has well written documentation about it. However, 
there is one thing you should know: Never, ever, edit the gvinum config 
file directly when you want to remove drives from your array. Use the 
gvinum shell for that. Immediately removing them from the config file 
will cause kernel panics. In fact, only use the config file to define 
your array: Make changes via the shell. Maybe it sounds logic to you, 
but I had about 10 kernel panics before I figured that out.


Overall if you follow exactly what's being said in the documentation it 
is quite okay, but my gvinum installation is still missing features. The 
Google Summer of Code project has invested quite a lot of time in fixing 
the missing features in gvinum, so overall I think it should be a fairly 
complete suite now. I'm not sure if those changes are already commited 
to the source tree, but I guess they are.


My gvinum installation certainly is stable, however. And the server is 
fairly important, so I can't risk upgrading gvinum and maybe ruin the array.


Jorn

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PowerEdgeTM 1950

2006-11-18 Thread ovidiu ene

Hello guys,

I want to know if Dell PowerEdge 1950 works fine on FreeBSD 6.1 i386.
(I am interested if network cards are detected and work properly, also 
if SATA/SAS drive is detected properly.


best regards
ovidiu


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Re: Unsubscribe me please

2006-11-18 Thread gb

Clyde's Human Unit wrote:

Dear FreeBSD,

I have no idea how this has happened, but somehow I have been put on 
your mailing lists.


I do not use your products or service and it has no application for me.

I would appreciate it if you would remove me from your mailing list.

Sincerely,


Uh duh

and I thought that I had a drinking problem :)

no comment :) must be a Windows Media Edition user (or whatever it is 
called).


:)


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Re: Unsubscribe me please

2006-11-18 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 09:42:26 +0100, Clyde's Human Unit  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Dear FreeBSD,

I have no idea how this has happened, but somehow I have been put on  
your mailing lists.


I do not use your products or service and it has no application for me.

I would appreciate it if you would remove me from your mailing list.

Sincerely,



Read the last line on _any_ email on this list.
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maybe OT - sendmail+outlook problems

2006-11-18 Thread Wojciech Puchar
while i use sendmail for many years and many of my users have outlook 
express (it's their problem not mine, there are lot of normal mail clients 
available for windows) and all works.


recently i installed sendmail as one of server programs when configuring 
machine for someone (standard delinuxation procedure). his users started 
complaining about problems with sending mails. no problems happened when 
receiving mail.


while lot of his users use outlook, only part of them complains, but i've 
seen it live.


when outlook starts to send large mail, it sends first few MB then chokes. 
sometimes it unchoke and send more data, chokes again etc.

sometimes it says that server didn't respond for too long time and aborts.

on server i started trafshow and it showed everything normal, but when 
choking it showed transfer speed of about 2-3kB/s.


there is no problem with cables, switches etc. as ftp sessions goes full 
speed always both to and from server.


all windows firewall was turned on or off when testing and it doesn't 
change anything.


position where it chokes is random.

tested using pine on other machine (pine was set to send directly through 
this sendmail) - no problems with 50MB mails, tested many 
times.


while i have network for over 300 users, maybe 20% of them using outlook 
(those who refused to use thunderbird we install when connecting), but 
none complained.



could You please give me any quirk about what to check more and find the 
reasons why it happens?


his network has separate machine (still running linux now) designed for 
traffic control. but traffic control rules are not port-based, and for 
sendmail server there are no control just routing.
can linux make such problems? i don't think so as FTP goes fine, but just 
asking.

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Re: maybe OT - sendmail+outlook problems

2006-11-18 Thread Wojciech Puchar
PS. sending mail through sqwebmail works fine too whatever WWW browser is 
used.


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Re: Where is that branch ???

2006-11-18 Thread Bill Moran
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:46:39 -0500
Ne'Bahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi list, I was reading the handbook for the -STABLE branch, but no answer,
 the actual realeases are -CURRENT and -PRODUCTION; I don't see any -STABLE
 on site, I should assume that -PRODUCTION is the stable branch ??? Am I 
 wrong ???

You're getting confused.  When the handbook talks about branches, it
specifically means CVS branches.  At the bottom of this page is a
dropbox that lists all the available branches:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/

Because of FreeBSD's development model, there are several branches that
could be considered production quality at any time.
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Re: Unsubscribe me please

2006-11-18 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Saturday November 18, 2006 at 07:02:32 (AM) gb wrote:

 Clyde's Human Unit wrote:
  Dear FreeBSD,
 
  I have no idea how this has happened, but somehow I have been put on 
  your mailing lists.
 
  I do not use your products or service and it has no application for me.
 
  I would appreciate it if you would remove me from your mailing list.
 
  Sincerely,
 
 Uh duh
 
 and I thought that I had a drinking problem :)
 
 no comment :) must be a Windows Media Edition user (or whatever it is 
 called).

Nothing to do with Windows. This is a former AOL user. Googler's are
rapidly replacing them however. They never, ever read the fine print
regarding how to subscribe/unsubscribe. Hopefully, by the time he/she
receives this they will have ventured to read the entire message
including footers.


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Re: maybe OT - sendmail+outlook problems

2006-11-18 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Saturday November 18, 2006 at 07:26:38 (AM) Wojciech Puchar wrote:


 while i use sendmail for many years and many of my users have outlook 
 express (it's their problem not mine, there are lot of normal mail clients 
 available for windows) and all works.
 
 recently i installed sendmail as one of server programs when configuring 
 machine for someone (standard delinuxation procedure). his users started 
 complaining about problems with sending mails. no problems happened when 
 receiving mail.
 
 while lot of his users use outlook, only part of them complains, but i've 
 seen it live.
 
 when outlook starts to send large mail, it sends first few MB then chokes. 
 sometimes it unchoke and send more data, chokes again etc.
 sometimes it says that server didn't respond for too long time and aborts.
 
 on server i started trafshow and it showed everything normal, but when 
 choking it showed transfer speed of about 2-3kB/s.
 
 there is no problem with cables, switches etc. as ftp sessions goes full 
 speed always both to and from server.
 
 all windows firewall was turned on or off when testing and it doesn't 
 change anything.
 
 position where it chokes is random.
 
 tested using pine on other machine (pine was set to send directly through 
 this sendmail) - no problems with 50MB mails, tested many 
 times.
 
 while i have network for over 300 users, maybe 20% of them using outlook 
 (those who refused to use thunderbird we install when connecting), but 
 none complained.
 
 
 could You please give me any quirk about what to check more and find the 
 reasons why it happens?
 
 his network has separate machine (still running linux now) designed for 
 traffic control. but traffic control rules are not port-based, and for 
 sendmail server there are no control just routing.
 can linux make such problems? i don't think so as FTP goes fine, but just 
 asking.

Where are your log files detailing this supposed problem?


-- 
Gerard

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upgrade packages

2006-11-18 Thread gahn
hi all:

trying to install package freeradius and it is using
package openldap-client-2.3.29. but i have problems
to get openldap-client-2.3.29 installed:

===  openldap-client-2.3.29 conflicts with installed
package(s): 
  openldap-client-2.2.30

  They install files into the same place.
  Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/openldap23-client.

foo# pkg_delete openldap-client-2.2.30
pkg_delete: package 'openldap-client-2.2.30' is
required by these other packages
and may not be deinstalled:
evolution-2.4.2.1_1
evolution-data-server-1.4.2.1_3
evolution-exchange-2.4.2_1
evolution-webcal-2.4.1_1
gnome2-2.12.3
gnomeapplets2-2.12.3
gnomecontrolcenter2-2.12.3_1
gnomenetstatus-2.12.0_2
gnomepanel-2.12.3_1
gnomeutils2-2.12.2,1
kde-3.5.1
kdeartwork-3.5.1_1
kdebase-3.5.1_2
kdesdk-3.5.1_1
kdeutils-3.5.1_1
kdevelop-3.3.1_1
libgail-gnome-1.1.3_1
vino-2.12.0_2

how can i get the openldap-client upgraded?

thanks



 

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cvsup problems....

2006-11-18 Thread Eric Schuele

Hello,

I usually use cvsup5.us.freebsd.org.  but it has not given me any new 
bits for several days now.  And if I use ANY other server what usually 
takes five minutes, takes 30-minutes to an hour (or they just hang). 
Which is terribly annoying.


I've tried picking other servers by hand, and I've tried the 
fastest_cvsup script.  Doesn't seem to matter which I pick.  They all 
seem to be slow except cvsup5... and cvsup5 does not give me anything 
anymore.  No source, no ports, no docs.


I have not changed anything on my end.  Is there something going on that 
I am not aware of that is affecting the servers, or my ability to 
interact with them?  Is it related to the release, the move, anything?


I'm using RELENG_6.

I use:
cvsup -g -L 1 ${SUPFILE_DIR}/supfile

And:
*default host=cvsup3.us.freebsd.org
*default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr

*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6
*default delete use-rel-suffix

*default compress

src-all
ports-all tag=.
doc-all tag=.


Thanks.
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Regards,
Eric
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Problems with openldap version conflict (was Re: upgrade packages)

2006-11-18 Thread Bill Moran
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 06:21:27 -0800 (PST)
gahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi all:
 
 trying to install package freeradius and it is using
 package openldap-client-2.3.29. but i have problems
 to get openldap-client-2.3.29 installed:
 
 ===  openldap-client-2.3.29 conflicts with installed
 package(s): 
   openldap-client-2.2.30
 
   They install files into the same place.
   Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/net/openldap23-client.
 
 foo# pkg_delete openldap-client-2.2.30
 pkg_delete: package 'openldap-client-2.2.30' is
 required by these other packages
 and may not be deinstalled:
 evolution-2.4.2.1_1
 evolution-data-server-1.4.2.1_3
 evolution-exchange-2.4.2_1
 evolution-webcal-2.4.1_1
 gnome2-2.12.3
 gnomeapplets2-2.12.3
 gnomecontrolcenter2-2.12.3_1
 gnomenetstatus-2.12.0_2
 gnomepanel-2.12.3_1
 gnomeutils2-2.12.2,1
 kde-3.5.1
 kdeartwork-3.5.1_1
 kdebase-3.5.1_2
 kdesdk-3.5.1_1
 kdeutils-3.5.1_1
 kdevelop-3.3.1_1
 libgail-gnome-1.1.3_1
 vino-2.12.0_2
 
 how can i get the openldap-client upgraded?

I see this all the time.  It's one of the curses of software dependencies.

The technique I use and recommend is portupgrade with the -o option.
Something like:
portupgrade -fo net/openldap23-client openldap-client-2.2.30

will replace the 2.2 version with the 2.3 version.  I've done this on a
few systems without problems.  You can then install packages that require
the 2.3 verison without hassel.

-- 
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freebsd 6.1

2006-11-18 Thread justin
Hello,

I `ve got a question about freebsd 6.1.
I try to install 6.1 on a celeron 1300 but it will not install.
When i try to install freebsd 5.5 on the same machine i don`1t have any
trouble.
What could be the reason?

Thanks in advance,
Justin.


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devfs creates unwanted devices in jail after ruleset applied

2006-11-18 Thread Steve Brown

I am running a DNS server in a jail and have setup a devfs mount in the
jail to have null and random devices.

The setup works fine, but once I log out then log back in the pty and
tty devices of my login get created in the jail. Which, of course, I
don't want to happen. To clarify, I'm not talking about logging into
the jail, this occurs when logging on to the system. The jail is
stripped down, not anywhere close to a virtual server.

I do the following to create the jail'd devfs at startup:

 mount_devfs devfs JAILDIR/dev

 devfs -m JAILDER/dev rule -s 35 add hide
 devfs -m JAILDIR/dev rule -s 35 add path null unhide
 devfs -m JAILDIR/dev rule -s 35 add path random unhide

 devfs -m JAILDIR/dev rule -s 35 applyset

This works great - I get a dev directory setup with just null and
random. But the second anyone logs into the system, whammo all the
sudden pty and tty devices appear inside the jail's /dev directory.

If anyone would care to unclueless me I would appreciate it.

Steve
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Re: freebsd 6.1

2006-11-18 Thread Steve Brown
 I `ve got a question about freebsd 6.1.
 I try to install 6.1 on a celeron 1300 but it will not install.
 When i try to install freebsd 5.5 on the same machine i don`1t have any 
 trouble.
 What could be the reason?

Any additional information such as how are you trying to install (CD?
FTP?), where does it fail, what happens when it fails, error messages,
etc.

Steve
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Re: Unsubscribe me please

2006-11-18 Thread wc_fbsd

At 07:13 AM 11/18/2006, Andreas Rudisch wrote:

I would appreciate it if you would remove me from your mailing list.



Read the last line on _any_ email on this list.


Aww c'mon guys!  He asked very nicely, and he's obviously a 
non-techie.  I sent an un-sub for him;   hopefully he can handle the 
confirmation part, if there is one.


  -W
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Re: PowerEdgeTM 1950

2006-11-18 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On November 18, 2006 11:57:34 AM +0200 ovidiu ene [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Hello guys,

I want to know if Dell PowerEdge 1950 works fine on FreeBSD 6.1 i386.
(I am interested if network cards are detected and work properly, also
if SATA/SAS drive is detected properly.

There are two problems that you must overcome and they require that you 
rebuild world and kernel.  The network card driver has a problem, and the 
usb driver has a problem.  The former causes the network card to become 
unusable and only a reboot will fix it.  The latter prevents you from 
using the DRAC card (if you ordered one with the 1950.)


Both problems can be overcome with newer source code files, but you then 
have to rebuild world and kernel.  And you must save those source code 
files, because you'll need them every time you have to update world or 
kernel due to security patches.


The two files in question are if_bce.c and ehci.c.

if_bce.c

http://www.ifdnrg.com/freebsd_broadcom_dell_1950.htm

ehci.c v 1.42:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/usb/ehci.c?rev=1.42content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup

Put this version in place in /usr/src/sys/dev/usb, comment out line 766
and rebuild your kernel and the DRAC5 keyboard will start to work.

The commit note says MFC after 2 weeks, but this seems to have been missed.
I'm going to ping the maintainers and see if I can get it MFCed before 6.2
comes out.

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/


Re: PowerEdgeTM 1950

2006-11-18 Thread Bill Moran
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:08:03 -0600
Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --On November 18, 2006 11:57:34 AM +0200 ovidiu ene [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  Hello guys,
 
  I want to know if Dell PowerEdge 1950 works fine on FreeBSD 6.1 i386.
  (I am interested if network cards are detected and work properly, also
  if SATA/SAS drive is detected properly.
 
 There are two problems that you must overcome and they require that you 
 rebuild world and kernel.  The network card driver has a problem, and the 
 usb driver has a problem.  The former causes the network card to become 
 unusable and only a reboot will fix it.  The latter prevents you from 
 using the DRAC card (if you ordered one with the 1950.)
 
 Both problems can be overcome with newer source code files, but you then 
 have to rebuild world and kernel.  And you must save those source code 
 files, because you'll need them every time you have to update world or 
 kernel due to security patches.

Another option is to wait a month or two for 6.2, which already incorporates
these fixes.  You can try out the 6.2-RC sets, and it will be trivial to
upgrade form RC to RELEASE.

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Re: cvsup problems....

2006-11-18 Thread ajm
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 08:25:57AM -0600, Eric Schuele wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I usually use cvsup5.us.freebsd.org.  but it has not given me any new 
 bits for several days now.  And if I use ANY other server what usually 
 takes five minutes, takes 30-minutes to an hour (or they just hang). 
 Which is terribly annoying.
 
 I've tried picking other servers by hand, and I've tried the 
 fastest_cvsup script.  Doesn't seem to matter which I pick.  They all 
 seem to be slow except cvsup5... and cvsup5 does not give me anything 
 anymore.  No source, no ports, no docs.
 
 I have not changed anything on my end.  Is there something going on that 
 I am not aware of that is affecting the servers, or my ability to 
 interact with them?  Is it related to the release, the move, anything?
 
 I'm using RELENG_6.
 
 I use:
 cvsup -g -L 1 ${SUPFILE_DIR}/supfile
 
 And:
 *default host=cvsup3.us.freebsd.org
 *default base=/var/db
 *default prefix=/usr
 
 *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6
 *default delete use-rel-suffix
 
 *default compress
 
 src-all
 ports-all tag=.
 doc-all tag=.
 
 
 Thanks.
 -- 
 Regards,
 Eric

I did hear FreeBSD was moving their clusters...could be the delays and 
hang-ups you have been experiencing?

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an alternative to phpsysinfo?

2006-11-18 Thread Jonathan Horne
phpsysinfo 2.5.2-rc2 is broken with php-5.2.0 (and rc3 has error messages even 
tho its basically functionsal).  i have no programming stills to even try to 
offer a fix, and am now searching for some sort of other means to get the 
information that phpsysinfo offers.  can anyone recommend an alternative that 
might offer the same type of information via a web browser?

thanks,
jonathan
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Re: cvsup problems....

2006-11-18 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I usually use cvsup5.us.freebsd.org.  but it has not given me any new
 bits for several days now.  And if I use ANY other server what usually
 takes five minutes, takes 30-minutes to an hour (or they just
 hang). Which is terribly annoying.

 I've tried picking other servers by hand, and I've tried the
 fastest_cvsup script.  Doesn't seem to matter which I pick.  They all
 seem to be slow except cvsup5... and cvsup5 does not give me anything
 anymore.  No source, no ports, no docs.

cvsup5.us.freebsd.org does seem to have stopped updating.  I've
cc'd the hubs mailing list in case this was not known.

 I have not changed anything on my end.  Is there something going on
 that I am not aware of that is affecting the servers, or my ability to
 interact with them?  Is it related to the release, the move, anything?

I tried cvsup3.us.freebsd.org (the example you showed in your
supfile), and it seemed fine; not just fast, but fully in synch
with my usual cvsup host (although it was busy enough that I had
to try for a while before I got in).  So whatever is going on does
seem to be local to you.

Try increasing the verbosity of cvsup; it may be able to tell you
what its problem is.
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Re: Unsubscribe me please

2006-11-18 Thread B H

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Fresh System: Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

2006-11-18 Thread VeeJay

Hello

On a freshly installed FreeBSD System, what step should be taken first?

Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

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Re: maybe OT - sendmail+outlook problems

2006-11-18 Thread Wojciech Puchar


his network has separate machine (still running linux now) designed for
traffic control. but traffic control rules are not port-based, and for
sendmail server there are no control just routing.
can linux make such problems? i don't think so as FTP goes fine, but just
asking.


Where are your log files detailing this supposed problem?


they doesn't say anything useful just that connection got broken.

Nov 18 14:17:19  sm-mta[24248]: kAIDHJOM024248: SYSERR(root): 
collect: I/O error on connection from , from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]


that's all in logs
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Re: Fresh System: Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

2006-11-18 Thread Armin Pirkovitsch
VeeJay wrote:
 Hello
 
 On a freshly installed FreeBSD System, what step should be taken first?
 
 Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?
 
If you want to update your system (base, not ports), you first have to
run cvsup and then make buildworld, kernel etc
If you just want to modify your kernel there is no need for a cvsup at
all (except you want to update of the ports tree)

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Re: Fresh System: Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

2006-11-18 Thread Paul Schmehl

--On November 18, 2006 6:46:56 PM +0100 VeeJay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello

On a freshly installed FreeBSD System, what step should be taken first?

Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?


It won't do you any good to rebuild the kernel unless you first cvsup the 
new sources.  You'd just be building the same kernel that you already have.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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The University of Texas at Dallas
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Re: cvsup problems....

2006-11-18 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith

Lowell Gilbert wrote:

Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



I usually use cvsup5.us.freebsd.org.  but it has not given me any new
bits for several days now.  And if I use ANY other server what usually
takes five minutes, takes 30-minutes to an hour (or they just
hang). Which is terribly annoying.

I've tried picking other servers by hand, and I've tried the
fastest_cvsup script.  Doesn't seem to matter which I pick.  They all
seem to be slow except cvsup5... and cvsup5 does not give me anything
anymore.  No source, no ports, no docs.



cvsup5.us.freebsd.org does seem to have stopped updating.  I've
cc'd the hubs mailing list in case this was not known.



cvsup-master.freebsd.org was down a few days ago, and also on Friday. 
On Friday it changed its IP address.  All of these were scheduled, I 
believe, but it might have thrown a wrench into the works at 
cvsup5.us.freebsd.org.  (It certainly did on my computer which generates 
the CTM deltas, and it did require manual intervention on my part.)


Stephen
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Re: Fresh System: Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

2006-11-18 Thread Russell E. Meek

Quoting VeeJay [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hello

On a freshly installed FreeBSD System, what step should be taken first?

Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

--
Thanks!

BR / vj
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cvsup should be run first.



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Re: Fresh System: Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

2006-11-18 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin

On 11/18/06, VeeJay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello

On a freshly installed FreeBSD System, what step should be taken first?

Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?


None if you don't want to update it. OTOH, if you want
to do that, you should update the sources before
building anything because whatever you build, it is
built from sources.
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Re: Fresh System: Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

2006-11-18 Thread Armin Arh
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 06:46:56PM +0100, VeeJay wrote:
 Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?
Most people do not need a custom Kernel, just some modules added at runtime.

On What part of source do you intend to run cvsup?
New Kernel should be run in order to provide binaries
with system calls not available in old Kernel.
Compiling something with new Kernel headers in place,
this may be necessary in general.

Most applications run nicely without upgrading Kernel, you
can even switch back to an older one.

Most of the time i upgrade by running a new kernel (for weeks :) at first,
replacing system libs etc. afterwards.

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Re: Fresh System: Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

2006-11-18 Thread Derek Ragona

cvsup to get the latest security updates, then do your rebuilds.

At 11:46 AM 11/18/2006, VeeJay wrote:

Hello

On a freshly installed FreeBSD System, what step should be taken first?

Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

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GELI + sync issue

2006-11-18 Thread Peter Thoenen
Hallo,

Recently updated to 6.2RC1 and upon reboot GELI is now asking me for a
password when it attempts to mount /dev/ad0.  This is left over from an
old atempt at removable fulldisk encryption that is no longer used.  I
can type the password wrong 3 time and then it mounts /dev/ad0 as
normal.

Trying to figure out how correct this.  'geli dump /dev/ad0' lists the
metadata (namely the -b problem) but a 'geli kill /dev/ad0' states
Userland and kernel parts are out of sync (I also get his prob when I
attempt to mount a geli swap partition)

I don't think I am actually out of sync though as uname -a gives proper
output and I have gone through the src/UPDATING and FBSD Handbook
building world process 3 times now.  All appears to be working except
this.  Anybody have any pointers on how to fix and do so w/o losing my
current data.

Some fun outputs:

#bsdlabel /dev/ad0
bsdlabel: /dev/ad0: no valid label found

#geli kill -v /dev/ad0
Userland and kernel parts are out of sync.

#fdisk
*** Working on device /dev/ad0 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 63, size 156296322 (76316 Meg), flag 80 (active)
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 2 is:
UNUSED
The data for partition 3 is:
UNUSED
The data for partition 4 is:
UNUSED

# # geli dump /dev/ad0   
Metadata on /dev/ad0:
 magic: GEOM::ELI
   version: 0
 flags: 0x2
  algo: AES
keylen: 256
  provsize: 80026361856
sectorsize: 4096
  keys: 0x01
iterations: 66523
  Salt: blah
Master Key: blah
  MD5 hash: blah

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Re: cvsup problems....

2006-11-18 Thread Eric Schuele

On 11/18/06 11:37, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I usually use cvsup5.us.freebsd.org.  but it has not given me any new
bits for several days now.  And if I use ANY other server what usually
takes five minutes, takes 30-minutes to an hour (or they just
hang). Which is terribly annoying.

I've tried picking other servers by hand, and I've tried the
fastest_cvsup script.  Doesn't seem to matter which I pick.  They all
seem to be slow except cvsup5... and cvsup5 does not give me anything
anymore.  No source, no ports, no docs.


cvsup5.us.freebsd.org does seem to have stopped updating.  I've
cc'd the hubs mailing list in case this was not known.


I have not changed anything on my end.  Is there something going on
that I am not aware of that is affecting the servers, or my ability to
interact with them?  Is it related to the release, the move, anything?


I tried cvsup3.us.freebsd.org (the example you showed in your
supfile), and it seemed fine; not just fast, but fully in synch
with my usual cvsup host (although it was busy enough that I had
to try for a while before I got in).  So whatever is going on does
seem to be local to you.



I don't know what it could be.

---
Finding fastest server...
---
 -=(oo)=(cvsup18.us.freebsd.org)=- 



cvsup13.us.freebsd.org

---
Grabbing source, docs, and ports... (all RELENG_6 cvsup13.us.freebsd.org)
---
Parsing supfile /root/maint/update/supfiles/supfile
Connecting to cvsup13.us.freebsd.org
Connected to cvsup13.us.freebsd.org
Server software version: SNAP_16_1h
Negotiating file attribute support
Exchanging collection information
Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection
Running
Updating collection src-all/cvs

I've been stuck here for 45 minutes or so.  If I leave it long enough it 
will sometimes break loose and do something.


Any ideas?  Anything I can look into?

Thanks.


Try increasing the verbosity of cvsup; it may be able to tell you
what its problem is.
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Re: cvsup problems....

2006-11-18 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Saturday 18 November 2006 13:07, Eric Schuele wrote:
 On 11/18/06 11:37, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
  Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I usually use cvsup5.us.freebsd.org.  but it has not given me any new
  bits for several days now.  And if I use ANY other server what usually
  takes five minutes, takes 30-minutes to an hour (or they just
  hang). Which is terribly annoying.
 
  I've tried picking other servers by hand, and I've tried the
  fastest_cvsup script.  Doesn't seem to matter which I pick.  They all
  seem to be slow except cvsup5... and cvsup5 does not give me anything
  anymore.  No source, no ports, no docs.
 
  cvsup5.us.freebsd.org does seem to have stopped updating.  I've
  cc'd the hubs mailing list in case this was not known.
 
  I have not changed anything on my end.  Is there something going on
  that I am not aware of that is affecting the servers, or my ability to
  interact with them?  Is it related to the release, the move, anything?
 
  I tried cvsup3.us.freebsd.org (the example you showed in your
  supfile), and it seemed fine; not just fast, but fully in synch
  with my usual cvsup host (although it was busy enough that I had
  to try for a while before I got in).  So whatever is going on does
  seem to be local to you.

 I don't know what it could be.

 ---
 Finding fastest server...
 ---
   -=(oo)=(cvsup18.us.freebsd.org)=-


 cvsup13.us.freebsd.org

 ---
 Grabbing source, docs, and ports... (all RELENG_6 cvsup13.us.freebsd.org)
 ---
 Parsing supfile /root/maint/update/supfiles/supfile
 Connecting to cvsup13.us.freebsd.org
 Connected to cvsup13.us.freebsd.org
 Server software version: SNAP_16_1h
 Negotiating file attribute support
 Exchanging collection information
 Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection
 Running
 Updating collection src-all/cvs

 I've been stuck here for 45 minutes or so.  If I leave it long enough it
 will sometimes break loose and do something.

 Any ideas?  Anything I can look into?

 Thanks.

  Try increasing the verbosity of cvsup; it may be able to tell you
  what its problem is.
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my solution for problems with 13, were resolved using my /etc/hosts file.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /etc/hosts|grep cvsup
192.168.0.1 cvsup13.us.freebsd.org

... just make it time out.  i wonder if there is a mechanism in the 
fastest_cvsup to make it deliberatly exclude specific cvsup repositories.

on a side note... what was the file again to check in your sources, to tell 
you the version you have just downloaded?

cheers,
jonathan
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Re: Atheros Wireless Chipsets?

2006-11-18 Thread Nate Peck

That's good. Thanks for the help!

But I forgot to ask: Is WPA managed through some other layer(like
wpa_supplicant), or is it integrated into iwconfig?

From,
Nate Peck

On 11/16/06, Christian Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

it's not about the ath-chipset in this case. The chip works fine, but
you should take care of the card you buy. Even if the chipset is
supported the card might not work at all. So read the manpage and
choose a card that is listed there -- including the revision number!
I'm using a DWL G650 which is equipped with the Atheros chipset, too.
The signal quality is great and it works flawlessly.

HTH
Christian


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Problems with 5.5-REL FTP install

2006-11-18 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
Hi,

I'm running into a problem trying to install
5.5-RELEASE from FTP. I've tried a few sites, and none of
them seem to have the crypto package. Is there something 
I can do to supplement/replace this need?

Thanks, Tuc
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Re: Fresh System: Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST or cvsup should be Run FIRST?

2006-11-18 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Saturday 18 November 2006 12:46, VeeJay wrote:

 On a freshly installed FreeBSD System, what step should be taken first?

 Kernel should be Rebuilded FIRST     or     cvsup should be Run FIRST?


Check out this URL for more definitive information:

Chapter 21 The Cutting Edge
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html

Then continue onto:

Chapter 8 Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html

Then move onto:

8.2 Why Build a Custom Kernel?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-custom-kernel.html

Then check out:

8.3 Building and Installing a Custom Kernel

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html

and:

8.4 The Configuration File

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html

Then continue onto:

21.4 Rebuilding “world”

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

That should give you enough information to get started.


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Re: Problems with 5.5-REL FTP install

2006-11-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 02:31:36PM -0500, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
 Hi,
 
   I'm running into a problem trying to install
 5.5-RELEASE from FTP. I've tried a few sites, and none of
 them seem to have the crypto package. Is there something 
 I can do to supplement/replace this need?

Why do you think you need it?  crypto has been an integral part of the
base for some time now.

Kris


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Re: Problems with 5.5-REL FTP install

2006-11-18 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
 On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 02:31:36PM -0500, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
  Hi,
 =20
  I'm running into a problem trying to install
  5.5-RELEASE from FTP. I've tried a few sites, and none of
  them seem to have the crypto package. Is there something=20
  I can do to supplement/replace this need?
 
 Why do you think you need it?  crypto has been an integral part of the
 base for some time now.
 
Don't look at me! I select the Minimal install and sysinstall
seems to be going after it. :)

Tuc
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TCP parameters and interpreting tcpdump output

2006-11-18 Thread Dieter
In the tcpdump output below, the src machine is sending data to the
bsd machine.  At one point during this test, the bsd machine is slowly
falling behind, as shown in the smaller and smaller window size.

It looks like at one point, the bsd machine takes 5.5 seconds to
ack a packet.  :-(  Am I interpreting the -ttt delta time correctly?

Getsockopt() says bsd machine's send buffer = 33580, rec buffer = 197100
Is there a way for the bsd machine to find out what the src machine's
send buffer size is?  I doubt that it is large enough for 5.5 seconds'
worth of data, but it would be nice to know what the goal is.

Towards the end of the log, it looks to me like both sides are a
bit quick to resend data and acks?

16 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1201508 win 65535
000641 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1201508:1202824(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000780 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1202824:1204140(1316) ack 1 win 4096
13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1204140 win 65535
000953 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1204140:1205456(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000938 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1205456:1206772(1316) ack 1 win 4096
13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1206772 win 65535
000640 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1206772:1208088(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000781 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1208088:1209404(1316) ack 1 win 4096
12 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1209404 win 62903
001110 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1209404:1210720(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000780 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1210720:1212036(1316) ack 1 win 4096
11 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1212036 win 60271
000641 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1212036:1213352(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000782 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1213352:1214668(1316) ack 1 win 4096
13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1214668 win 57639
000953 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1214668:1215984(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000941 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1215984:1217300(1316) ack 1 win 4096
13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1217300 win 55007
000952 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1217300:1218616(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000781 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1218616:1219932(1316) ack 1 win 4096
11 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1219932 win 52375
000798 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1219932:1221248(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000794 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1221248:1222564(1316) ack 1 win 4096
13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1222564 win 49743
000646 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1222564:1223880(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000933 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1223880:1225196(1316) ack 1 win 4096
13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1225196 win 47111
000954 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1225196:1226512(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000625 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1226512:1227828(1316) ack 1 win 4096
11 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1227828 win 44479
000798 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1227828:1229144(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000936 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1229144:1230460(1316) ack 1 win 4096
12 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1230460 win 41847
000953 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1230460:1231776(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000624 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1231776:1233092(1316) ack 1 win 4096
12 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1233092 win 39215
000797 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1233092:1234408(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000780 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1234408:1235724(1316) ack 1 win 4096
11 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1235724 win 36583
000953 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1235724:1237040(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000937 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1237040:1238356(1316) ack 1 win 4096
12 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1238356 win 33951
000641 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1238356:1239672(1316) ack 1 win 4096
001092 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1239672:1240988(1316) ack 1 win 4096
13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1240988 win 31319
000796 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1240988:1242304(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000626 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1242304:1243620(1316) ack 1 win 4096
13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1243620 win 28687
000952 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1243620:1244936(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000783 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1244936:1246252(1316) ack 1 win 4096
15 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1246252 win 26055
000797 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1246252:1247568(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000937 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1247568:1248884(1316) ack 1 win 4096
11 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1248884 win 23423
000797 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1248884:1250200(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000938 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1250200:1251516(1316) ack 1 win 4096
13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1251516 win 20791
000642 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1251516:1252832(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000782 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1252832:1254148(1316) ack 1 win 4096
13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1254148 win 18159
000797 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1254148:1255464(1316) ack 1 win 4096
001251 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1255464:1256780(1316) ack 1 win 4096
14 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1256780 win 15527
000640 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1256780:1258096(1316) ack 1 win 4096
000937 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1258096:1259412(1316) ack 1 win 4096
12 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1259412 win 12895

Re: Problems with 5.5-REL FTP install

2006-11-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 03:15:40PM -0500, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
  On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 02:31:36PM -0500, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
   Hi,
  =20
 I'm running into a problem trying to install
   5.5-RELEASE from FTP. I've tried a few sites, and none of
   them seem to have the crypto package. Is there something=20
   I can do to supplement/replace this need?
  
  Why do you think you need it?  crypto has been an integral part of the
  base for some time now.
  
   Don't look at me! I select the Minimal install and sysinstall
 seems to be going after it. :)

sysinstall from what version?  I suspect not 5.5 :-)

Kris


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Re: Unsubscribe me please

2006-11-18 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Read the last line on _any_ email on this list.


Aww c'mon guys!  He asked very nicely, and he's obviously a non-techie.  I 
sent an un-sub for him;   hopefully he can handle the confirmation part, if 
there is one.


if he can't read - i don't think so.



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Re: Unsubscribe me please

2006-11-18 Thread Jeff Mohler

If he uses linux, there's probly a broken RPM for that.



On 11/18/06, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Read the last line on _any_ email on this list.

 Aww c'mon guys!  He asked very nicely, and he's obviously a non-techie.  I
 sent an un-sub for him;   hopefully he can handle the confirmation part, if
 there is one.

if he can't read - i don't think so.


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Re: Problems with 5.5-REL FTP install

2006-11-18 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
 On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 03:15:40PM -0500, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
   On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 02:31:36PM -0500, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
Hi,
   =3D20
I'm running into a problem trying to install
5.5-RELEASE from FTP. I've tried a few sites, and none of
them seem to have the crypto package. Is there something=3D20
I can do to supplement/replace this need?
  =20
   Why do you think you need it?  crypto has been an integral part of the
   base for some time now.
  =20
  Don't look at me! I select the Minimal install and sysinstall
  seems to be going after it. :)
 
 sysinstall from what version?  I suspect not 5.5 :-)
 
Oh. Ok. :-/ Yea, its 5.3. I'm trying to install to a CF card
and my 5.5 system locks when I do. I run FreeSBIE (5.3) it works fine.

I guess I'll install 5.3 and then upgrade to 5.5 . :-/ I
hate to do all these CF writes.

Thanks, Tuc
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Re: Problems with 5.5-REL FTP install

2006-11-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 03:43:00PM -0500, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
  On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 03:15:40PM -0500, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 02:31:36PM -0500, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
 Hi,
=3D20
   I'm running into a problem trying to install
 5.5-RELEASE from FTP. I've tried a few sites, and none of
 them seem to have the crypto package. Is there something=3D20
 I can do to supplement/replace this need?
   =20
Why do you think you need it?  crypto has been an integral part of the
base for some time now.
   =20
 Don't look at me! I select the Minimal install and sysinstall
   seems to be going after it. :)
  
  sysinstall from what version?  I suspect not 5.5 :-)
  
   Oh. Ok. :-/ Yea, its 5.3. I'm trying to install to a CF card
 and my 5.5 system locks when I do. I run FreeSBIE (5.3) it works fine.
 
   I guess I'll install 5.3 and then upgrade to 5.5 . :-/ I
 hate to do all these CF writes.

Dunno if you'll have any more luck at the end of the day, if writes
from the installer are hanging...why are you using 5.x anyway?

Kris


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Qmail Vpopmail From Ports

2006-11-18 Thread Rachel Florentine
Hi;
I've installed both qmail and vpopmail from ports. Qmail is up and running 
because of the great instructions provided. But I haven't figured out how to 
get vpopmail up (and, of course, working with qmail). Please help.
Rachel




 

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system updates, as affected by securelevel

2006-11-18 Thread Darrel

With OpenBSD securelevel=2 I can install a kernel, make build, and
install programs which are compiled using Systrace.

What is the highest securelevel that I can configure on RELENG_6_2
which will not affect compiling and installing; e.g., perhaps not
much local difference but having to reboot for a firewall change?
This installation is new and the AUDIT option will be in the kernel.

Thanks,
Darrel
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Re: upgrade packages

2006-11-18 Thread Garrett Cooper

gahn wrote:

hi all:

trying to install package freeradius and it is using
package openldap-client-2.3.29. but i have problems
to get openldap-client-2.3.29 installed:

===  openldap-client-2.3.29 conflicts with installed
package(s): 
  openldap-client-2.2.30


  They install files into the same place.
  Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/openldap23-client.

foo# pkg_delete openldap-client-2.2.30
pkg_delete: package 'openldap-client-2.2.30' is
required by these other packages
and may not be deinstalled:
evolution-2.4.2.1_1
evolution-data-server-1.4.2.1_3
evolution-exchange-2.4.2_1
evolution-webcal-2.4.1_1
gnome2-2.12.3
gnomeapplets2-2.12.3
gnomecontrolcenter2-2.12.3_1
gnomenetstatus-2.12.0_2
gnomepanel-2.12.3_1
gnomeutils2-2.12.2,1
kde-3.5.1
kdeartwork-3.5.1_1
kdebase-3.5.1_2
kdesdk-3.5.1_1
kdeutils-3.5.1_1
kdevelop-3.3.1_1
libgail-gnome-1.1.3_1
vino-2.12.0_2

how can i get the openldap-client upgraded?

thanks


Simple: pkg_delete openldap-client-2.3.29  portupgrade -Rra (assuming 
you have portupgrade installed).

-Garrett
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Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports

2006-11-18 Thread Rachel Florentine
797984- Original Message 
From: Peter Thoenen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 http://dev.qmailrocks.org/qmail/freebsd/109 is your friend.



Well, going to that page led me to this as the authority for vpopmail:

http://dev.qmailrocks.org/qmail/freebsd/vpopmail_std.htm

(I already have qmail working.) That page seems to only offer these two 
commands as advice (since I've installed vpopmail and qmail from ports):

chown vpopmail:vchkpw ~vpopmail/bin/vchkpw
chmod 6711 ~vpopmail/bin/vchkpw

And, according to the instructions...

If you don't get any errors, then Vpopmail is good to go!

Well, I didn't get any errors, but when I reboot and ps there's no vpopmail :( 
What do?
TIA,
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Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports

2006-11-18 Thread John Levine
Don't install qmail from the port, which includes a whole bunch of
ill-advised patches.  Instead, download and install netqmail 1.05 from
www.qmail.org, which has a small set of patches that really work.

I've been meaning to make a port of netqmail, but haven't had time yet.

You'll also want daemontools and ucspi-tcp.  For both of those, the
ports are OK.

Haven't tried the port of vpopmail, but the port has a disconcertingly
large number of patches that it silently applies.

R's,
John

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Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports

2006-11-18 Thread Rachel Florentine
- Original Message 
From: John L [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Why would I want to rip out a perfectly good installation?

 Because it's not perfectly good.  Many of the patches only sort of work.

 I just want to get vpopmail working with qmail.

 If you don't care whether it crashes mysteriously and loses mail, you 
 might as well use the port.  If you actually want it to work, delete the 
 port and use netqmail.

John, there's a rationalle for using ports, you know. A very, very strong 
argument in favor of them. 
Would you mind telling me how to get vpopmail working?
TIA,
Rachel







 

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Qmail Vpopmail From Ports

2006-11-18 Thread Rachel Florentine
But...I already have qmail working from port!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:local/vpopmail/bin (106) ps|grep qmail
  368 con- S  0:00.93 supervise qmail-send
  370 con- S  0:00.91 supervise qmail-smtpd
  813 con- I  0:00.02 qmail-lspawn ./Mailbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:local/vpopmail/bin (107)

Why would I want to rip out a perfectly good installation? I just want to get 
vpopmail working with qmail.
TIA,
Rachel

- Original Message 
From: John Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc:
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Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 6:02:55 PM
Subject: Re: Qmail  Vpopmail From Ports

Don't install qmail from the port, which includes a whole bunch of
ill-advised patches.  Instead, download and install netqmail 1.05 from
www.qmail.org, which has a small set of patches that really work.

I've been meaning to make a port of netqmail, but haven't had time yet.

You'll also want daemontools and ucspi-tcp.  For both of those, the
ports are OK.

Haven't tried the port of vpopmail, but the port has a disconcertingly
large number of patches that it silently applies.

R's,
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port redirection with natd and ipfw

2006-11-18 Thread Nilton Volpato

Hi,

I'm using a computer with FreeBSD as a gateway and NAT for a private
LAN. Let's say the gateway has external.com as external address, and
192.168.0.1 as internal address, so that the LAN is 192.168.0.0/24.

I'm doing a number of port redirects in the gateway, for svn, http,
https, ssh, etc using natd. However, these port redirects do not work
from inside the LAN.

For instance, if I point my browser to http://external.com and I'm in
the LAN, then it will not work. I can't use the internal address of
the web server because none of the links will work on the web page.

In summary, I want that my port redirections work also when I try to
connect to the gateway's external address from inside the LAN.

I'm using a minimal ipfw configuration to try to solve this. This is
the default configuration.

00050 divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via vr0
00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0
00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
00300 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any
65000 allow ip from any to any
65535 deny ip from any to any

I tried to add:

00060 divert 8668 ip4 from 192.168.0.0/24 to external.com

expecting that it would send the packets from LAN to natd, which would
apply the port redirections. But it did not work.

How can I solve this?

Thanks,
-- Nilton
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Modifying gcc34 makefile to compile with java

2006-11-18 Thread David Pratt
Hi. I have recently tried to compile gcc34 port with java by modifying 
Makefile by adding the argument


--enable-languages=c,c++,java

This failed giving me a list of languages that excluded java. This 
version of gcc is capable of compiling with java. Can someone provide 
some advice on getting this port to compile with java properly. Anyone 
done this? Many thanks.


Regards,
David
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Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports

2006-11-18 Thread Tom Ierna

On Nov 18, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Rachel Florentine wrote:

Well, going to that page led me to this as the authority for vpopmail:

http://dev.qmailrocks.org/qmail/freebsd/vpopmail_std.htm


I've installed qmail/vpopmail many ways - from source, using the  
instructions from qmailrocks and most recently using the instructions  
found here:


http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/install.shtml

The toaster method seems to me to be the most comprehensive, and  
you can use (or not use) ports as you see fit.


Installing over your current installation using the toaster  
instructions should work OK - the install scripts seem to try to do  
the right thing.


Best of luck,
-Tom

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link_elf_lookup_symbol: missing symbol hash table

2006-11-18 Thread David Kelly

Am getting a lot of these:

Nov 18 12:54:19 Grumpy kernel: link_elf_lookup_symbol: missing symbol  
hash table


in /var/log/messages and dmesg with 6.2-PRERELEASE. Reading /usr/src/ 
UPDATING has been of no use, nor searching the mailing list archives.


The message appears on the text console very early in the booting  
process. Am using an edited GENERIC based on 1.429.2.4 2005/10/28  
19:21:27 but failed to notice significant additions in the latest  
GENERIC.


grep -il /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/* didn't hit anything.

The most unusual thing about my system configuration would be /boot/ 
loader.conf:


geom_vinum_load=YES

# either load these here or statically compile into the kernel:
# 3/17/2006 dmk
#wlan_wep_load=YES# used by WEP
#wlan_tkip_load=YES   # used by WPA
wlan_ccmp_load=YES# used by WPA2
wlan_xauth_load=YES
#wlan_acl_load=YES

snd_ich_load=YES
hw.ata.atapi_dma=1
kern.maxdsiz=2G
kern.dfldsiz=2G
#hw.physmem=2G  # saying this broke things wonderfully, altho true
kern.maxssiz=128M
nvidia_load=YES
linux_load=YES

Sources from cvsup yesterday. This problem predates that, was trying  
to fix it with new sources yesterday. What have I done wrong?


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Re: cvsup problems....

2006-11-18 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 11/18/06 11:37, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I usually use cvsup5.us.freebsd.org.  but it has not given me any new
 bits for several days now.  And if I use ANY other server what usually
 takes five minutes, takes 30-minutes to an hour (or they just
 hang). Which is terribly annoying.

 I've tried picking other servers by hand, and I've tried the
 fastest_cvsup script.  Doesn't seem to matter which I pick.  They all
 seem to be slow except cvsup5... and cvsup5 does not give me anything
 anymore.  No source, no ports, no docs.

 cvsup5.us.freebsd.org does seem to have stopped updating.  I've
 cc'd the hubs mailing list in case this was not known.

 I have not changed anything on my end.  Is there something going on
 that I am not aware of that is affecting the servers, or my ability to
 interact with them?  Is it related to the release, the move, anything?

 I tried cvsup3.us.freebsd.org (the example you showed in your
 supfile), and it seemed fine; not just fast, but fully in synch
 with my usual cvsup host (although it was busy enough that I had
 to try for a while before I got in).  So whatever is going on does
 seem to be local to you.


 I don't know what it could be.


Try increasing the verbosity of cvsup; it may be able to tell you
what its problem is.

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Re: Modifying gcc34 makefile to compile with java

2006-11-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 07:19:16PM -0400, David Pratt wrote:
 Hi. I have recently tried to compile gcc34 port with java by modifying 
 Makefile by adding the argument
 
 --enable-languages=c,c++,java
 
 This failed giving me a list of languages that excluded java. This 
 version of gcc is capable of compiling with java. Can someone provide 
 some advice on getting this port to compile with java properly. Anyone 
 done this? Many thanks.

AFAIK you really don't want to use gcc 3.4's java support, it was not
usable before the 4.x branch.  Accordingly, the gcc 4.x ports allow
java to be specified.

Kris


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Re: Modifying gcc34 makefile to compile with java

2006-11-18 Thread David Pratt
Hi Kris. I realize the java support prior to 4 requires a ton of RAM to 
compile but I also know the compiler is reasonably good afterwards (from 
other platforms) but have not been successful with FreeBSD at this 
point.  I attempted a few tries at 4.1 an 4.2 today and getting this 
sort of an error using gcj:


/usr/local/lib/gcc-4.2.0/libgcj.so.8: Undefined symbol _Unwind_GetIPInfo

so am looking to try something earlier that is known to work on Linux.

Regards,
David

Kris Kennaway wrote:

On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 07:19:16PM -0400, David Pratt wrote:
Hi. I have recently tried to compile gcc34 port with java by modifying 
Makefile by adding the argument


--enable-languages=c,c++,java

This failed giving me a list of languages that excluded java. This 
version of gcc is capable of compiling with java. Can someone provide 
some advice on getting this port to compile with java properly. Anyone 
done this? Many thanks.


AFAIK you really don't want to use gcc 3.4's java support, it was not
usable before the 4.x branch.  Accordingly, the gcc 4.x ports allow
java to be specified.

Kris

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Re: Modifying gcc34 makefile to compile with java

2006-11-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 08:58:01PM -0400, David Pratt wrote:
 Hi Kris. I realize the java support prior to 4 requires a ton of RAM to 
 compile but I also know the compiler is reasonably good afterwards (from 
 other platforms) but have not been successful with FreeBSD at this 
 point.

 I attempted a few tries at 4.1 an 4.2 today and getting this 
 sort of an error using gcj:
 
 /usr/local/lib/gcc-4.2.0/libgcj.so.8: Undefined symbol _Unwind_GetIPInfo
 
 so am looking to try something earlier that is known to work on Linux.

If I were you I'd focus on solving that error instead.  Without more
context I can't help though.

Kris


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Re: cvsup problems....

2006-11-18 Thread Eric Schuele

On 11/18/06 18:32, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


On 11/18/06 11:37, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I usually use cvsup5.us.freebsd.org.  but it has not given me any new
bits for several days now.  And if I use ANY other server what usually
takes five minutes, takes 30-minutes to an hour (or they just
hang). Which is terribly annoying.

I've tried picking other servers by hand, and I've tried the
fastest_cvsup script.  Doesn't seem to matter which I pick.  They all
seem to be slow except cvsup5... and cvsup5 does not give me anything
anymore.  No source, no ports, no docs.

cvsup5.us.freebsd.org does seem to have stopped updating.  I've
cc'd the hubs mailing list in case this was not known.


I have not changed anything on my end.  Is there something going on
that I am not aware of that is affecting the servers, or my ability to
interact with them?  Is it related to the release, the move, anything?

I tried cvsup3.us.freebsd.org (the example you showed in your
supfile), and it seemed fine; not just fast, but fully in synch
with my usual cvsup host (although it was busy enough that I had
to try for a while before I got in).  So whatever is going on does
seem to be local to you.


I don't know what it could be.



Try increasing the verbosity of cvsup; it may be able to tell you
what its problem is.



Man page says

cvsup -g -L 2 ${SUPFILE_DIR}/supfile

Is as verbose as it gets.  Which is what I used in my last post.  Is 
there something more I can tweak?


Thanks.



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Re: TCP parameters and interpreting tcpdump output

2006-11-18 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Nov 18), Dieter said:
 In the tcpdump output below, the src machine is sending data to the
 bsd machine.  At one point during this test, the bsd machine is
 slowly falling behind, as shown in the smaller and smaller window
 size.
 
 It looks like at one point, the bsd machine takes 5.5 seconds to ack
 a packet.  :-( Am I interpreting the -ttt delta time correctly?

A shrinking window and no packet loss is an indication that the program
the socket is connected to isn't reading data fast enough.  If you're
locally gzipping the output of a remote backup, for example, you'll see
this.  The receive window on the BSD box shrunk to 1051 free bytes, the
sender decided not to send a partial packet, 5.5 seconds later the
process on the BSD box finally read some data, and the kernel sent a
couple of window update acks to the sending box letting it know to send
more data.
 
 Getsockopt() says bsd machine's send buffer = 33580, rec buffer = 197100
 Is there a way for the bsd machine to find out what the src machine's
 send buffer size is?  I doubt that it is large enough for 5.5 seconds'
 worth of data, but it would be nice to know what the goal is.
 
 Towards the end of the log, it looks to me like both sides are a
 bit quick to resend data and acks?

Those acks are being resent because from the BSD machine's point of
view, the sender has skipped some data starting at 1281784, so it'll
keep asking for that byte until the sender sends it (which it
eventually does).  The receiver usually sends an ack for every other
full-size incoming data packet, but I'm pretty sure when there's loss
every one gets an ack (whether the incoming packet increments the
receivers sequence number or not).

The completely duplicated data packets from the sender, even before any
perceived packet loss, are troubling.  Either the sender decided to
resend that data on its own, or the packet was duplicated by a router
or switch in transit.  Dumps of the same stream from both sender and
receiver would help, as would enabling rfc 1323 extensions on both
systems (which will put a timestamp value on each packet and enable
SACK.  It's enabled by default on FreeBSD).
 
 16 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1201508 win 65535
 000641 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1201508:1202824(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000780 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1202824:1204140(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1204140 win 65535
 000953 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1204140:1205456(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000938 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1205456:1206772(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1206772 win 65535
 000640 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1206772:1208088(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000781 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1208088:1209404(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 12 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1209404 win 62903
 001110 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1209404:1210720(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000780 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1210720:1212036(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 11 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1212036 win 60271
 000641 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1212036:1213352(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000782 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1213352:1214668(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1214668 win 57639
 000953 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1214668:1215984(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000941 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1215984:1217300(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1217300 win 55007
 000952 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1217300:1218616(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000781 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1218616:1219932(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 11 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1219932 win 52375
 000798 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1219932:1221248(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000794 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1221248:1222564(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1222564 win 49743
 000646 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1222564:1223880(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000933 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1223880:1225196(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1225196 win 47111
 000954 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1225196:1226512(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000625 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1226512:1227828(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 11 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1227828 win 44479
 000798 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1227828:1229144(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000936 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1229144:1230460(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 12 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1230460 win 41847
 000953 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1230460:1231776(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000624 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1231776:1233092(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 12 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1233092 win 39215
 000797 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1233092:1234408(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000780 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1234408:1235724(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 11 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1235724 win 36583
 000953 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1235724:1237040(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000937 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1237040:1238356(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 12 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1238356 win 33951
 000641 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 

Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports

2006-11-18 Thread John L
John, there's a rationalle for using ports, you know. A very, very 
strong argument in favor of them.


In general I agree.  The qmail port, unlike most of the other ports, is 
junk.



Would you mind telling me how to get vpopmail working?


If you really want to know, please read chapter 13 of my qmail book.

R's,
John
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Re: TCP parameters and interpreting tcpdump output

2006-11-18 Thread Bill Moran

My comments are based both on the packet dump here and the source code
you posted earlier ...

On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:20:33 +
Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In the tcpdump output below, the src machine is sending data to the
 bsd machine.  At one point during this test, the bsd machine is slowly
 falling behind, as shown in the smaller and smaller window size.
 
 It looks like at one point, the bsd machine takes 5.5 seconds to
 ack a packet.  :-(  Am I interpreting the -ttt delta time correctly?

I think so.  My guess would be that your process blocked on stdout.
You don't mention what you're doing with stdout from the program, are
you just letting it scroll on the terminal, or redirecting it to a file?

In any case, if stdout blocks (because the disk is slow, for example)
your recv buffer will fill up until your program can get the data
written.  As an experiment, try running the process and redirecting
stdout to /dev/null -- if it doesn't exhibit the problem, then you
need to look at where you're actually storing the data and speed that
part up.

Is the data coming in at a fairly constant rate?  If not, and you're only
having trouble when it bursts, you can work around this by keeping a
ring buffer and doing non-blocking writes.  It'll make your code more
complex, but it will allow your program to absorb some of the bursting
data and keep the window from closing -- especially if you've got plenty
of RAM.  If this is a constant rate of data, however, you're going to
need a faster way to store or process or whatever you do with it as it
comes in.

 Getsockopt() says bsd machine's send buffer = 33580, rec buffer = 197100
 Is there a way for the bsd machine to find out what the src machine's
 send buffer size is?

I don't know of any way but to ask them.  Again, it will only help if
it's a bursting problem.  If your receiving process is unable to keep
up with the required throughput, eventually you'll block and the other
end will run out of buffer space.

 I doubt that it is large enough for 5.5 seconds'
 worth of data, but it would be nice to know what the goal is.
 
 Towards the end of the log, it looks to me like both sides are a
 bit quick to resend data and acks?
 
 16 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1201508 win 65535
 000641 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1201508:1202824(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000780 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1202824:1204140(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1204140 win 65535
 000953 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1204140:1205456(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000938 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1205456:1206772(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1206772 win 65535
 000640 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1206772:1208088(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000781 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1208088:1209404(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 12 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1209404 win 62903
 001110 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1209404:1210720(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000780 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1210720:1212036(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 11 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1212036 win 60271
 000641 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1212036:1213352(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000782 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1213352:1214668(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1214668 win 57639
 000953 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1214668:1215984(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000941 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1215984:1217300(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1217300 win 55007
 000952 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1217300:1218616(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000781 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1218616:1219932(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 11 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1219932 win 52375
 000798 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1219932:1221248(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000794 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1221248:1222564(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1222564 win 49743
 000646 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1222564:1223880(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000933 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1223880:1225196(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 13 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1225196 win 47111
 000954 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1225196:1226512(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000625 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1226512:1227828(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 11 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1227828 win 44479
 000798 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1227828:1229144(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000936 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1229144:1230460(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 12 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1230460 win 41847
 000953 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1230460:1231776(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000624 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1231776:1233092(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 12 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1233092 win 39215
 000797 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1233092:1234408(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000780 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1234408:1235724(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 11 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1235724 win 36583
 000953 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1235724:1237040(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 000937 IP src.rfe  bsd.12340: P 1237040:1238356(1316) ack 1 win 4096
 12 IP bsd.12340  src.rfe: . ack 1238356 win 33951

using NetGear wireless usb adapter

2006-11-18 Thread nathan_p_maier
Hi,
 I have a NetGear WG111 usb wireless network adapter.  Is there any way to 
use this?  I get the ugen0: with the name of the adapter.  How much further can 
I get?  What's the next step?
Thankyou,
Nathan
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Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports

2006-11-18 Thread Rachel Florentine
7883- Original Message 
From: Tom Ierna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I've installed qmail/vpopmail many ways - from source, using the instructions
 from qmailrocks and most recently using the instructions found here:


 http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/install.shtml108


 The toaster method seems to me to be the most comprehensive, and you can 
 use (or not use) ports as you see fit.


make test resulted in this:

Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
---
t/Toaster.t1   256411   2.44%  22
t/toaster-watcher.t1   256231   4.35%  21
7 tests and 5 subtests skipped.
Failed 2/24 test scripts, 91.67% okay. 2/364 subtests failed, 99.45% okay.
*** Error code 255

Stop in /usr/local/Mail-Toaster-5.03.

I'm toast.
Rachel





 

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Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports

2006-11-18 Thread Rachel Florentine
- Original Message 
From: John L [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 In general I agree.  The qmail port, unlike most of the other ports, is 
 junk.



I didn't realize you're the author of O'Reilly's book on Qmail :)
I'll take your opinion a little more seriously.
I noticed that although I have all my processes up:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log/qmail (105) ps|grep qmail
  368 con- S  0:00.15 supervise qmail-send
  370 con- S  0:00.16 supervise qmail-smtpd
  804 con- S  0:00.00 qmail-lspawn ./Mailbox
 2068  p0  D+ 0:00.00 grep qmail

nothing new seems to have been added into any of the current logs! Is there a 
way to build qmail with ports, configuring it around the problems? If not, the 
reason I'm doing this is to get ezmlm-idx up. How do you recommend I build?
TIA,
Rachel




 

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RE: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports

2006-11-18 Thread Andras Kende


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rachel Florentine
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:19 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Qmail  Vpopmail From Ports

Hi;
I've installed both qmail and vpopmail from ports. Qmail is up and running
because of the great instructions provided. But I haven't figured out how to
get vpopmail up (and, of course, working with qmail). Please help.
Rachel


Hi Rachel,

Here is a simpler toaster howto, which worked perfectly for me :

http://www.bsdguides.org/guides/freebsd/mailserver/qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin
.php


Andras Kende
http://www.kende.com



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Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports

2006-11-18 Thread Tom Ierna


On Nov 18, 2006, at 9:54 PM, Rachel Florentine wrote:

make test resulted in this:

Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
-- 
-

t/Toaster.t1   256411   2.44%  22
t/toaster-watcher.t1   256231   4.35%  21
7 tests and 5 subtests skipped.
Failed 2/24 test scripts, 91.67% okay. 2/364 subtests failed,  
99.45% okay.

*** Error code 255

Stop in /usr/local/Mail-Toaster-5.03.

I'm toast.
Rachel



IIRC, when installing for the first time, there were make test  
errors, but they all worked themselves out once all installation and  
configuration was complete.



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The FreeBSD Diary: 2006-10-29 - 2006-11-18

2006-11-18 Thread Dan Langille
The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical 
examples and how-to guides.  This message is posted weekly
to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people
know what's available on the website.  Before you post a question
here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list 
archives http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists 
and/or The FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/. 


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Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports

2006-11-18 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
On Saturday 18 November 2006 20:54, Rachel Florentine wrote:
 7883- Original Message 
 From: Tom Ierna [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I've installed qmail/vpopmail many ways - from source, using the
  instructions from qmailrocks and most recently using the instructions
  found here:
 
 
  http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/install.shtml108
 
 
  The toaster method seems to me to be the most comprehensive, and you
  can use (or not use) ports as you see fit.

 make test resulted in this:

 Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
 ---
 t/Toaster.t1   256411   2.44%  22
 t/toaster-watcher.t1   256231   4.35%  21
 7 tests and 5 subtests skipped.
 Failed 2/24 test scripts, 91.67% okay. 2/364 subtests failed, 99.45% okay.
 *** Error code 255

 Stop in /usr/local/Mail-Toaster-5.03.

 I'm toast.
 Rachel


To run that script and install the toaster, you are going to find that you 
need to install one heck of a lot of perl programs. You did see the part at 
the very beginning about installing perl, correct? It's not just install 
perl, that's the easy part, it's all the other perl helper programs that need 
to be installed.

A very much easier method to install is located here:
http://freebsdrocks.net/

Don
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Re: system updates, as affected by securelevel

2006-11-18 Thread Chuck Swiger

Darrel wrote:

With OpenBSD securelevel=2 I can install a kernel, make build, and
install programs which are compiled using Systrace.

What is the highest securelevel that I can configure on RELENG_6_2
which will not affect compiling and installing; e.g., perhaps not
much local difference but having to reboot for a firewall change?
This installation is new and the AUDIT option will be in the kernel.


securelevel = 0.

Because the kernel is installed using the schg flag: if you have securelevel 
set to 1 or higher, you will not be able to over-write the kernel without 
rebooting into single-user mode.  See man init for details.


[ Of course, reinstalling the kernel and/or world is something which you are 
encouraged to do under single-user mode... ]


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Re: TCP parameters and interpreting tcpdump output

2006-11-18 Thread Dieter
Dan writes:

Dan A shrinking window and no packet loss is an indication that the program
Dan the socket is connected to isn't reading data fast enough.  If you're
Dan locally gzipping the output of a remote backup, for example, you'll see
Dan this.

Just a tight loop reading the socket and writing to stdout, which is
directed into a file on disk.

Dan The completely duplicated data packets from the sender, even before any
Dan perceived packet loss, are troubling.  Either the sender decided to
Dan resend that data on its own, or the packet was duplicated by a router
Dan or switch in transit.  Dumps of the same stream from both sender and
Dan receiver would help, as would enabling rfc 1323 extensions on both
Dan systems (which will put a timestamp value on each packet and enable
Dan SACK.  It's enabled by default on FreeBSD).

No router or switch, just a piece of wire.

net.inet.tcp.rfc1323: 1

Bill writes:

Bill My guess would be that your process blocked on stdout.
Bill You don't mention what you're doing with stdout from the program, are
Bill you just letting it scroll on the terminal, or redirecting it to a file?

Just redirected to a file.  FFS, soft updates, 7200 rpm SATA drive
with the disk's write cache turned off.  Input data rate is less
than 20 M bits/sec.  I can write to the disk at approx 6 M Bytes/sec
sustained.  (or 10x that with disk write cache turned on, but
I don't like trashed filesystems after the machine goes down hard)
The machine and the disk are plenty fast enough, AMD64, 2 GB main memory.
CPU is 90-something percent idle.

Sometimes it works fine for extended periods, 30-40 minutes.  Other times
the src box reports thousands of network errors.  So far I haven't figured
out what the difference is between the working tests and the failing tests.
The crontab directory is empty, so it shouldn't be cron jobs.

 As an experiment, try running the process and redirecting
 stdout to /dev/null -- if it doesn't exhibit the problem, then you
 need to look at where you're actually storing the data and speed that
 part up.

I've thought of trying /dev/null but haven't yet.  It might provide
a clue.

I would expect that the filesystem should be buffering the write
from short term disk latency.  Surely FreeBSD 6.0 provides the
classic Unix write-behind?

The disk activity LED flashes constantly, so it doesn't appear to be
saving up disk writes and then doing a bunch at once,

 Is the data coming in at a fairly constant rate?

Yes.

 you've got plenty of RAM

The machine has 2 GB.  I wonder if the process is getting its fair share?
I have been observing other problems where disk activity to one disk
will make an unrelated process reading data from a different disk *very*
unresponsive.
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