USB Flash Drive Permissions
I would like to setup my USB flash drive to have special permissions when I plug it into my desktop. Specifically, I would like it to be owned by my user so I can user mount the msdos fs on it. I added an entry to /etc/devfs.conf for the device it was creating, but the permissions did not get applied when I plugged my drive in. After some research, it appears that devfs.conf only gets applied on boot by /etc/rc.d/devfs so I took a look at devd. I catted the pipe of devd and saw my device attach as umass0 with a serial number that would be ideal to match on (I'd prefer that it only match on my personal flash drive,) however, I did not see any information on the device file it created, da0s1, when I need to modify the permissions on. How can I determine automatically where umass0 created it's disk device file? -- Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.north-winds.org/ Public Key: ftp://ftp.north-winds.org/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: 10A0 7AE2 DAF5 4780 888A 3FA4 DCEE BB39 7654 DE5B pgpI1U6vWqSM8.pgp Description: PGP signature
FreeBSD NFS server responds with wrong address
I was attempting to do an NFS mount from a FreeBSD server to a FreeBSD client over IPv6 and received the error NFSPROC_NULL: RPC: Timed out. After doing a packet trace, I noticed that the FreeBSD server was indeed responding to both a Portmap GATADDR call and a NFS NULL call, but in both cases it was coming from the IPv6 address closest to the client making the call and not the address the call was issued to. Why is this happening and how do I make the server respond with the correct address? The server is FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p7. -- Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.north-winds.org/ Public Key: ftp://ftp.north-winds.org/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpdlEKmaqGLJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Moving /var/mail
On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 03:22:48PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 02:20:42PM -0500, Lisa Casey wrote: Hi, I want to move /var/mail to /usr/var/mail, then symlink /var/mail to /usr/var/mail to free up space on my (too small on this machine) /var. Of course, I wish to maintain file permissions, ownerships, etc. I decided to try a dry run using a user home directory first to make sure this would work right. Good thing I did... I created /usr/kellyw and attempted to copy the contents of /home/kellyw/ to it. First of all, I tried tar cvpf /usr/kellyw/kellyw.tar /home/kellyw/ When I unpack the tar file, I wind up with /usr/kellyw/home/kellyw/* Not what I wanted. I wanted all of the files in /home/kellyw/ to wind up in /usr/kellyw/ So I then tried to just copy the files using cp -p but I can't get the syntax right on that: # cd /home/kellyw # ls -l total 16 -rw-r--r-- 1 kellyw kellyw 767 Aug 18 14:52 .cshrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kellyw kellyw 248 Aug 18 14:52 .login -rw-r--r-- 1 kellyw kellyw 158 Aug 18 14:52 .login_conf -rw--- 1 kellyw kellyw 373 Aug 18 14:52 .mail_aliases -rw-r--r-- 1 kellyw kellyw 331 Aug 18 14:52 .mailrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kellyw kellyw 797 Aug 18 14:52 .profile -rw--- 1 kellyw kellyw 276 Aug 18 14:52 .rhosts -rw-r--r-- 1 kellyw kellyw 975 Aug 18 14:52 .shrc # cp -p /home/kellyw/* /usr/kellyw/* cp: No match. # cp -p /home/kellyw/ /usr/kellyw/ cp: /home/kellyw/ is a directory (not copied). # cp -p /home/kellyw/*.* /usr/kellyw/*.* cp: No match. You don't want to use the '*' on the receiving directory. If there are no other subdirectories in /home/kellyw then just do this:cp -p /home/kellyw/* /usr/kellyw/. This will miss hidden files which a home directory will surely have. Just drop the * to copy everything. If it has subdirectories and you want it to recurse, then do this: cp -R -p /home/kellyw/ /usr/kellyw Unfortunately, if there are hard links in that directory, it will also make new copies of those files rather than just making new hard links. The whole point of this is because the original partition was getting too full so unless all links to the file are copied, it will have to make new copies of the files. If there are multiple hard links to the same file that need to be removed, then tar, pax, or cpio should be used. /var/mail probably won't have any nor /home/kellyw unless kellyw specifically set them up with ln. You might want to consider using tar instead of cp if your file structure to be moved are at all complex. cd /home/kellyw tar cvpf /usr/kellyw/kelly.tar * * should be . to copy everything cd /usr/kellyw tar xvpf kelly.tar rm kelly.tar cd /home/kellyw pwd(just to be extra careful since rm -rf * is irrevocable) rm -rf * To remove everything you would have to be up one and remove the folder instead. jerry Can someone help me out with my syntax? The tar method would probably be better (I guess) though I don't really care which method I use as long as it works (and preserves permissions, etc.). There are only about 60 mailboxes on this system. Thanks, Lisa Casey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alzatex.com/ Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpKoiZsGT0Xr.pgp Description: PGP signature
dc0 card drops connection on FreeBSD 6.1
I am having issues with an ethernet card running under FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE. It is dc0 and pciconf reports it as Conexant Systems. Network connections hang most of the time and usually timeout. FTP and HTTP downloads with move along for a short time and hang every 3% or so for several minutes before continuing or timing out. I installed FreeBSD 6.1 a month ago on a fresh hard drive, but about 5 months ago my old hard drive crashed which was running FreeBSD 5.4, though I never had any issues with the network card for 5.4 or, previously, 4.9. This system was running for several years with no issues until the Hard drive crashed 5 months ago. dc0: Conexant LANfinity MiniPCI 10/100BaseTX port 0x1400-0x14ff mem 0xf400-0xf4003fff irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0 miibus0: MII bus on dc0 ukphy0: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto dc0: Ethernet address: 00:50:8b:ab:99:d5 pci0: simple comms at device 9.1 (no driver attached) pci0: multimedia, audio at device 10.0 (no driver attached) -- Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alzatex.com/ Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpxhKPmXsvuh.pgp Description: PGP signature
FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE fails to reboot system
I just built a new server based on a Celeron 2.53Ghz with EM64T extensions on an ASUS P5S800 motherboard and 256 DDR ram and install FreeBSD-6.1 using the amd64 version. Everything is running fine, but when I tell the system to reboot, it just hangs with the line Rebooting... Both halt and power off commands work as expected. Disabling ACPI did not change anything. This system is also running with a serial console, but the reboot problems happened even at the end of the installer. I had to hit reboot after the installer exited, but the filesystems came back clean everytime so they had been synced properly. -- Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alzatex.com/ Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Content filtering
Shawn Guillemette wrote: Hello, I have recently been thinking about adding content filtering to my FreeBSD fire wall at home as the kids are starting to use the internet more and they are getting older too ;-) I'm running FreeBSD 4.11 RELEASE using IPFW as my firewall. The system its running on is an old alpha machine. I was wondering if anyone knew of a port that I could use to filter some web content from my children. I do have the X86 option as well Just have to reload the OS and start from scratch on another system. Thanks Shawn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd look at squid+squidguard. Both are opensource and available in ports. -- Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alzatex.com/ Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: USB-Serial ??
fbsd wrote: Sorry dud but what you have is a winmodem. No, it's a USB modem, winmodems are a type of PCI modem. XP has special driver for that external modem to work. It is not supported in FreeBSD as far as I have seen. There is no such thing as USB-serial modem. There is, I've used one. While I can't gaurntee it will work, check out the umodem driver. Just load the driver with 'kldload umodem' and see if it detects anything. dmesg is a handy command for such things. There are also some other possibilities, check out http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/hardware-i386.html under USB. The device probably will be something like /dev/ucom0, but check the output of dmesg. External modem is connected to motherboard by serial cable or USB cable. Serial external modem works right out of the box and USB external modem are all winmodems. Any serial modem should work fine for FreeBSD using either the hardware serial ports on your motherboard with the sio driver or possibly some USB serial adapters that are supported. USB modems are not winmodems, but they still sometimes require a special driver that FreeBSD does not have. There is a port ltmdm which works for a limited number of PCI winmodems but nothing for USB-winmodems. You are SOL. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Warren Block Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:29 AM To: Steve Bertrand Cc: 'John Andrewartha'; 'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG' Subject: RE: USB-Serial ?? On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Steve Bertrand wrote: The saga of the 3G modem. Labeled in AU as the Maxon MM 5500c. This device is a modem on the usb bus, it looks like and understands the at commands. Under XP. I am using fbsd 6.1. How do I get ppp to talk to it? The man pages keep pointing to /dev/cuaU? A device that does not exist yet. Don't know about the rest, but in FBSD 6+, the serial devices are /dev/cuad0 for COM1 and /dev/cuad1 for COM2. Try a: # cu -l /dev/cuad0 to see if you can connect to the device. He said it was USB, which should be /dev/ucom0. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alzatex.com/ Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Multicast/IGMP Join in FreeBSD 6.1
Mayo, Richard A RDECOM CERDEC STCD SRI wrote: Can anybody tell me how to configure the multicast groups my computer will attempt to join? I when my computers boot, I can see a IGMP join request for 224.0.0.9, but I would like to add more. When a program opens a socket for listening, it requests which groups it will listen on using an option in setsockopt(), and bind(). When the program closes the socket or exits, the group is left. The IGMP Join/Leave messages are only needed if you have multicast capable routers and are running a multicast routing protocol like PIM and want messages from other subnets. Any group can be joined that is broadcasted locally without those messages. If you put your network card in promiscuous mode, as is done by most packet sniffers, you should be receiving all locally transmitted packets, including multicast. Any suggestions? Rich Mayo SRI International x76435 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alzatex.com/ Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Creating Vinum Volume during install
I am trying to create a vinum file system during the install so I can also use it for the root filesystem as described in the handbook, but it appears that the geom_vinum modules are not available from the FreeBSD 6.1-RC2 disc 1 LiveCD shell. Are the modules not available or do I need to load something for it to work? If they're not available, what other choices to I have? Freesbie? -- Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alzatex.com/ Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpTz5apekhX5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 09:55:37AM -0800, Danial Thom wrote: --- Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 11:28:17PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: If both DSL lines go to the same ISP it is easy, run PPP on them and setup multilink PPP. The ISP has to do so also. If they are going to different ISP's then you cannot do it with any operating system or device save BGP - the idea is completely -stupid- to put it simply. If you think different, then explain why and I'll shoot every networking scenario you present so full of holes you will think it's swiss cheese. And if you think your going to run BGP I'll shoot that full of holes also. I strongly disagree. There are many reasons for this. Two of which are increased throughoutput and redundancy. The primary problem is that you need to make sure outgoing data for a connection is using the same line as the incoming connection. If the majority to all connections are outgoing and both lines use NAT and have unique IP addresses, it's simpler to setup. If you have incoming connections as well, either only one of the two lines will be used or you'll need BGP or some kind of static route setup by the two ISPs. For an internet cafe, most connections will probably be outgoing so it won't be a problem. Thats not right at all, although in *some* cases it may be desirable. All upstream ISPs are connected to everyone on the internet, so it doesn't matter which you send your packets to (the entire point of a connectionless network. They both can forward your traffic to wherever its going. For efficiencies sake, you may argue that sending to the ISP that sent you the traffic will be a better path, but if one of your pipes is saturated and the other running at 20% then its likely more efficient to keep your pipes filled and send to either isp. You can achieve this with per-packet load-balancing with ciscos, or bit-balancing with a product like ETs for FreeBSD. Unless your 2 isps are connected substantially differently (say if one is in Europe and one in the US), you'll do better keeping your pipes balanced, as YOU are the bottleneck, not the upstream, assuming you have quality upstream providers. You are correct in the case of a normal router, but this is not a normal router, this is an NAT router with two different incoming pipes with two unique ip addresses. As far as each ISP is concerned, they are providing bandwidth to a single computer that is not the same as the other ISP. There is no information that connects the two together. With NAT, the network behind is hidden and normal routing can't take place. Only outgoing connections can take place, and the from address is modified to be the same as the IP address on the pipeline it is leaving from. Internet routers won't know that the other ip address is the same computer and even if they did know, the NAT software on the router might discard the packets because the data is arriving on the wrong interface. Incoming connections work only if the router is setup to do port forwarding. The problem here with sharing the bandwidth is that each pipeline has it's own address and there is no way to specifiy an address of a computer behind the router because each ISP has only allocated one address to their customer and there are no entries in the routing tables for computers behind them. Bandwidth sharing is possible with an NAT router, but not connection sharing. Danial __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgp0pSj6aYzKE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 03:46:50PM -0800, Danial Thom wrote: Ted the incompetent, wrong on all counts once again: --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 9:56 AM To: Loren M. Lang; Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Yance Kowara; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections All upstream ISPs are connected to everyone on the internet, so it doesn't matter which you send your packets to (the entire point of a connectionless network. They both can forward your traffic to wherever its going. They aren't going to forward your traffic unless it's sourced by an IP number they assign. To do otherwise means they would permit you to spoof IP numbers. And while it's possible some very small ISP's run by idiots that don't know any better might still permit this, their feeds certainly will not. Yes they will. Routers route based on dest address only. Are you somehow suggesting that an ISP can't be dual homed and use only one link if one goes down, since some of the addresses sent up the remaining pipe wouldn't have source addresses assigned by that upstream provider? You are beyond clueless, Ted. Why do you keep opening your mouth? You understand the issues little yourself. I'd recommend getting a good book on NAT and IP routing. With a normal router and either static routes or a good routing protocol setup, this would work fine, but with NAT in the mix, it's much more difficult. The problem is that neither ISP knows about the network behind the NAT router, that's the basic reason for NAT in the first place. There are no official addresses allocated for the computers behind so there can be no routes to the computer behind. NAT causes the entire network behind the router to look like it came from the router itself. And since the router has a different address for each ISP, it looks like two independent computers on the internet. For efficiencies sake, you may argue that sending to the ISP that sent you the traffic will be a better path, but if one of your pipes is saturated and the other running at 20% letsseenow, these are full duplex 'pipes', can we have some direction this saturation is taking place in? I mean, since you are at least trying to make a senseless explanation sound right, you might as well try a bit harder. Its not senseless, you just don't understand how the internet works, apparently. I do this for a living, and you just yap. You could use a good book too. If you were able to send back the data on the pipe it arrived on then you would have uneven use of the pipes. So one could be saturation the the other highly unused. Balancing the outgoing data would reduce the latency that occurs when a pipe is saturated. Its hard to explain calculus to some who can't add or subtract ted, so you should figure out how routing works before you try something this complicated. then its likely more efficient to keep your pipes filled and send to either isp. You can achieve this with per-packet load-balancing with ciscos, per packet load balancing is for parallel links between 2 endpoints. Not three, as in you, your first ISP, and your second ISP. Wrong again, Ted. Usually thats how it is used to gain extra throughput, but thats not the only thing that it can be used for. Since the internet is connectionless (back to school for you Ted), per packet balancing can utilize 2 outgoing pipes to different ISPs as well. Obviously since failover on dual-homed network works, you can send your packets to any ISP you want. Routers route based on destination address, as anyone who knows how routers work knows. You can even use per packet load balancing on 2 lines to the same ISP when the other end doesn't support it; using 2 pipes in one direction and only one in the other. You can be innovative when you actually understand how things work, Ted. Surprising you would drag up a Ciscoism as your such a big fan of BSD-based routers. or bit-balancing with a product like ETs for FreeBSD. Unless your 2 isps are connected substantially differently (say if one is in Europe and one in the US), you'll do better keeping your pipes balanced, as YOU are the bottleneck, not the upstream, assuming you have quality upstream providers. Sometimes you run into someone who is so ignorant of the subject of which he is trying to speak, - routing in this case - that you can't even argue with the person. Kind of like trying to explain the concept of the fossil record to a creationist. This is one of these times. Yes Ted. People run into you, the ultimate ignoramous. I have 3000 ISP customers. This is not just theory; its being done. You are wrong about every single thing you
Re: 6.0 STABLE install locks up within a few minutes
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 08:49:14AM -0500, Brown, Steve wrote: By the way, the issue was gone when I installed to one of the IDE drives. FreeBSD 6 must not like my SATA controller. At least it tries though. Red Hat 9 and Solaris 10 would not recongnize it at all during installation. What SATA controller is it? I know in particular the SiL3112 Silcon Image chipset is buggy hardware. If it's only an add-in card, you could try another one. I have a cheap Highpoint RocketRAID 1520. It works fine as a SATA controller, but the raid on it is fake-raid. There is little to no hardware support on it and it would be better to use FreeBSD's built-in software raid if you need it. By the way, the SiL3112 had problems on both linux and bsd, but it worked most of the time. I think the windows drivers they provide have a work-around in them for the buggy hardware, but would you really want buggy hardware? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brown, Steve Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:25 PM To: FreeBSD Questions (E-mail) Subject: 6.0 STABLE install locks up within a few minutes Hello everyone, I'm trying to get v6.0-STABLE installed on a PC that is running Windows (XP Pro) now. The hardware is very stable with Windows, it's just bogged down with all the updates and third-party apps you need to keep it that way. I'm running FreeBSD in other systems but haven't tried this newer version yet. However, the system locks up at a different place everytime I attempt the install. It seems completely random. Sometimes I get to where it's mostly configured and I'm adding ported apps and sometimes it doesn't run long enough to get to that point. Once it locks up, it will not respond to any input. More often than not, the lock up happens when I'm adding ported apps so I tried the obvious - not loading any. After getting it booted up that way (which I'm able to do argueably because of the short amount of uptime) it will still lock up after 5-10 miutes of messing around with it. I have also tried skipping over configuring and bringing up the Ethernet interface but it will still lock up. It seems like no matter what it doing, when it locks up is determined by the amount of uptime which varies from 5 to 10 minutes or so. I have tried booting the without ACPI option and it won't even boot up that way due to some IRQ 19 error. Normally I see no real problems on the screen during bootup. I'm running the Gigabyte 7N400-L motherboard with NForce2 chipset + Corsair XMS DDR + AMD XP+ 3200 cpu + ATi RADEON 9600 Pro 256MB + SATA PCI add-on card w/ (2) SATA HDDs + (2) ATA HDDs Shouldn't this system be fully supported? I'm going to try this again tonight without the SATA drives to see if that's the issue. Any other ideas would be appreciated. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpoX04MtDHkZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Detect hardware changes
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 08:27:06AM -0600, Keith Bottner wrote: -Original Message- From: Loren M. Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 9:06 AM To: Peter Giessel Cc: Keith Bottner; 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: Re: Detect hardware changes On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 12:02:25PM -0900, Peter Giessel wrote: On 12/8/2005 11:51, Keith Bottner seems to have typed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:9:0: class=0x02 card=0x00241737 chip=0x10321737 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Linksys' device = 'EG1032 Gigabit Ethernet' class= network subclass = ethernet Looks like this should be supported using the nge driver. No, actually the sk driver, look at the first line of pciconfig output. ifconfig -a should list a network card called skc0 which you just need to configure. If all you need is dhcp then just run dhclient skc0. Add the device to rc.conf for it to work on boot. Use man rc.conf for help or copy the line for the xl0 network card you already have. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ipconfig -a doesn't show the skc0 device which I believe is my ultimate problem. Can I infer from your earlier message that this means the sk module is not being loaded or is not available? How can I check to see if the loadable module is installed? Thanks, Keith Hello Keith skc0 is the controller. You should see sk0 in ifconfig -a. Can you please show us the output of ifconfig -a and rc.conf. Thank you Robert Ifconfig does not show skc0 but here is the output for completeness: Did you try ifconfig -a? Also, any lines on sk0 or skc0 from the output of dmesg would be helpful. xl0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 options=9RXCSUM,VLAN_MTU inet 192.168.1.217 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet6 fe80::2b0:d0ff:fe16:3d30%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:b0:d0:16:3d:30 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 And rc.conf is: defaultrouter=192.168.1.1 hostname=gsdev.bltmobile.com ifconfig_xl0=inet 192.168.1.217 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_skc0=inet 10.0.130.204 netmask 255.255.255.0 linux_enable=YES moused_enable=YES sshd_enable=YES usbd_enable=YES postgresql_enable=YES Anything else that I can send that will help? Keith ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpzM1f2Mgfx0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 07:38:12AM -0800, Danial Thom wrote: Because those of us with real jobs are required to do so. Kris doesn't just not see my point. If you can't see that then you can't be reasoned with either. --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, a TOP poster as well. Danial Thom wrote: Kris is just a PR front man for a team of developers that is lost. Their theory on how to build a better mousetrap for MP is completely wrong, and now they're going to try something else, using the entire FreeBSD community as guinea pigs. First 5.4 was the answer. Then 6.0. Now it looks like 6.0 sucks too. Its a damn shame. DT IF you are such a man that can actually call himself an engineer - why hide behind Yahoo mail? Next, IF you are as you claim to be - WHY are you not on the team or at least contributing code? To insult one person for not seeing your point of view is a show of closed mindedness - to insult a whole list of users ... Well, I do think that speaks volumes about you - as a whole. If you feel the need to insult Kris - keep it off-list. If you feel the need to insult the rest of us, you may be better off seeking help in the real world and moving on. Why would you continually expose yourself to us if we make you that unhappy? Or - is it a craving you need to satisfy by either bitching and moaning or insulting us to make yourself feel superior? If that's the case - then professional help is for you. Seek it, feel better about yourself - and move on. -- Best regards, Chris A Smith and Wesson beats four aces. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgptiUODEq4oF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 02:14:34AM +0100, cpghost wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 05:09:38PM +, David Gerard wrote: Danial Thom wrote: I vote for Look what they've done to my song, Ma - a commentary on the destruction of the (formally) world's best operating system. So far I'm finding 6.x a heck of a lot better than 5.x. The mousewheel just works, a lot more of the ports just work, sound works ... you still have to fiddle with /boot/loader.conf to get the sound to go, which is completely braindead, but I'm sure it'll be up to the standard of Linux distros 2001. Ahemm, speaking of sound... how about a, *cough*, working MIDI sequencer? Any way to attach a MIDI device to 5.x or 6.x _and_ being able to record from it? Anything workable yet? No? Am I missing something crucial here? How about Timidity? What would be nice, though, is for timidity to show up as a hardware device. I would suggest a song about Pokemon sex toys. :) - d. Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgp7GPrpolhOd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 11:28:17PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: If both DSL lines go to the same ISP it is easy, run PPP on them and setup multilink PPP. The ISP has to do so also. If they are going to different ISP's then you cannot do it with any operating system or device save BGP - the idea is completely -stupid- to put it simply. If you think different, then explain why and I'll shoot every networking scenario you present so full of holes you will think it's swiss cheese. And if you think your going to run BGP I'll shoot that full of holes also. I strongly disagree. There are many reasons for this. Two of which are increased throughoutput and redundancy. The primary problem is that you need to make sure outgoing data for a connection is using the same line as the incoming connection. If the majority to all connections are outgoing and both lines use NAT and have unique IP addresses, it's simpler to setup. If you have incoming connections as well, either only one of the two lines will be used or you'll need BGP or some kind of static route setup by the two ISPs. For an internet cafe, most connections will probably be outgoing so it won't be a problem. I have done this with a Linux router and using Comcast Cable and SpiritOne DSL. We had all incoming connections use DSL and outgoing connections use either line. We balanced them by internal IP addresses, but there might be more sophisticated methods. I do not know what support FreeBSD has for this kind of routing though. At the very minimum, you could get redundancy for outgoing connections by switching the route to use the other line when the first one fails. Note that Steven's scenario below is for 2 circuits that both start at a single entity, and both end at a single entity. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Yance Kowara Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 7:03 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD router two DSL connections Hi all, I am trying to figure out if *BSD can achieve this: I have two DSL connections to play with, and I would like to configure a *BSD router that can combine the two DSLs together. There is a howto at http://stevenfettig.com/mythoughts/archives/000173.php But it concerns OpenBSD and it was for a T1 connection using a dual T1 card. I would like to configure one on 2 DSLs connected to two individual NICs. Is this feasible at all, or should I just invest in a dual Wan hardware? Kind regards, Yance __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpZaVBIsVg6e.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: IDE recomendations.
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 09:24:48AM -0500, Sean wrote: I want to try and find some time to start to start beating on some code again, it has been many years since, and wanted to ask for some recommendations on an IDE package. In the past I just used a text editor, but want something more. Right now I been looking over XEmacs, but wanted some other input. What are others using here and why? Vim is my IDE. It support syntax highlighting, word completion, tags (useful for quickly jumping to a function), software version control, support for integrating with build system and jumping to the line of code that generated the error, and integration with various debuggers. Some of this functionality is improved/added by the vim plugins I use. Thanks Sean ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpT8YMcvCKof.pgp Description: PGP signature
Failed to alloc memory
I am having trouble to get any network cards to work in my laptop's PCMCIA card slot. I get errors about not being able to map or allocate enough memory. This has been happening for a RealTek 8139 100Base-T network card and now an Atheros based WiFi card. Both cards work, and the PCMCIA slot worked in this laptop for both Windows ME and Red Hat Linux. Is there any way to get FreeBSD to pre-allocate memory for the PCMCIA card or any other approach that will get my WiFi card to work? The exact error message I'm getting for the atheros card is: ath_hal: 0.9.14.9 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413) ath0: Atheros 5212 mem 0x8800-0x8800 irq 9 at device 0.0 on cardbus0 ath0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ath0: unable to alloc memory for 1000 tx descriptors, error 12 ath0: failed to allocate descriptors: 12 device_attach: ath0 attach returned 12 I've have this same problem for 6.0, 5.4, 5.3, 5.2.1, and maybe even 4.9, but I can't remember that far back. It's been ages. This isn't related to the 16 meg limit for DMA is it? I wouldn't think PCI/Cardbus devices would have the same problems as ISA device. -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpNk0ADAOgCl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Detect hardware changes
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 12:02:25PM -0900, Peter Giessel wrote: On 12/8/2005 11:51, Keith Bottner seems to have typed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:9:0: class=0x02 card=0x00241737 chip=0x10321737 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Linksys' device = 'EG1032 Gigabit Ethernet' class= network subclass = ethernet Looks like this should be supported using the nge driver. No, actually the sk driver, look at the first line of pciconfig output. ifconfig -a should list a network card called skc0 which you just need to configure. If all you need is dhcp then just run dhclient skc0. Add the device to rc.conf for it to work on boot. Use man rc.conf for help or copy the line for the xl0 network card you already have. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpCCHLX2QZ8x.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Video Conferencing Server Software ... Recommendations ... ?
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 08:58:35PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Basically, I'm looking for something to run on a remote server, that other parties to connect to, create conferences, invite other users into, etc ... including full video / audio and, if possible, whiteboard ... Does anyone have any recommendations that work under FreeBSD? For IPv4 multicast and partial IPv6 support there are the old mbone tools like sdr/vic/vat/rat/wbd/wb/nte. That includes tools for setting up and advertising conferences, and using audio, video, whiteboard, and text chat. Though they might be a little old. There is also programs like gnomemeeting, kphone, and other h232 or sip apps for doing conferencing, but, at least gnomemeeting, isn't as well suited for large groups. I haven't used kphone or any other h232 or sip apps. Thanks ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpLLIX2697Ok.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: pkgdb format
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 08:55:10PM +, eoghan wrote: Hello Ive recently upgraded to 6.0 and I decided to upgrade my ports... So I ran a: portupgrade -af Its running fine, but each time its upgrade a port I get: [Updating the pkgdb format:bdb1_btree in /var/db/pkg ... Failed `Inappropriate file type or format'; rebuild needed] [Rebuilding the pkgdb format:bdb1_btree in /var/db/pkg ... - 439 packages found (-0 +439) Just remove /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db and it should rebuild the database using the new format. Just wondering if its to do with my upgrade to 6.0 (from 5.4) Thanks Eoghan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpFBozfFsQlH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sligtly OT: setting static routes on clients
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 04:01:02PM +0100, Andrea Venturoli wrote: Hello. I've got a network of clients on which I'd like to set static routes; these are mainly (but not only) Windows machines, administered through a couple of FreeBSD servers. Is there any way to do this with DHCP? Or via Samba (netlogon.cmd)? Have you considered a dynamic routing protocol like rip or ospf using the routed or zebra daemons for freebsd? I know some versions of windows come with, or have a windows component you can add for the rip protocol. bye Thanks av. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpJXxOjQSwww.pgp Description: PGP signature
GPIB support
Recently, I discovered that FreeBSD supports at least one GPIB PCMCIA card in it's kernel sources. There also seems to be a userspace library for accessing it. I had done some work with GPIB in the past, but I never realized FreeBSD had any support for it, so we stuck with windows. How come this isn't listed in the hardware compatibility list for freebsd? -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpaVvEg4BUSi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: moving everything except a directory
On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 05:40:00PM -0500, Brian John wrote:
Say I am at ~ and I have 10 directories inside named 1, 2, 3, 4 ,5, 6,
7, 8, 9 and 10. What command can I use to move everything but directory
2? What if I wanted to move everything but directories 2 and 7?
find ~ -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 ! -name 2 -exec mv {} /path/to/new/place
find ~ -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 ! -name 2 ! -name 7 -exec mv {}
/path/to/new/place
I'm not sure how to use the mv command to do this in 1 comand.
Thanks
/Brian
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Re: atacontrol
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 08:54:10PM +0200, G?ran Nilsson wrote: Hi. I have recently installed Freebsd 5.4 . I have also installed a cheap raidcontroller . On the controller i put on a 200+120gb disk. In the raidcontroller i create a JBOD raid, showing me that i now have 301gb of disk. That's a loss of 19gb, i can live with that. After login I do a atacontrol create JBOD ad5 ad6. It now creates ar0 device with 223gb of space. That's nearly a 100gb of disk loss! If and how can i prevent the huge 100gb of storage loss? I'd look at geom_ccd over atacontrol for this. man ccd /Regards dukka ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpGmJmOGA5ii.pgp Description: PGP signature
/var superblock mismatches first alternate
Twice while ripping a particular music cd with grip, my system paniced when it hit track 9. On the second reboot, my system failed fsck on the /var partition complaining the superblock differed from the first alternate block and dropped me to a shell. I tried running fsck /var and got the same message, then I tried fsck -b 32 /var and fsck -b 89808 /var and in both cases it said it was not a superblock. Any ideas on how to resolve this? I am running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p1 using UFSv2. -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgphGWlWe9YEk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Jack and Icecast
I'm curious what clients people use to send data to icecast. I tried the native client, ices, but it kept bus erroring. I've found oddcastv3-jack and I'm working on porting it to freebsd. Also, how well does jack work on FreeBSD. I can't seem to get it to work. Any tips on using it? Every program I've tried, mplayer, alsaplayer, hydrogen, can't connect to the jack server. -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpNTHkWaUcOU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Connecting to X Server on a FreeBSD Box
On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 02:40:15PM +0100, Chris Hodgins wrote: On 4/17/05, Soheil Hassas Yeganeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I start an X server on my FreeBSD box. I want to run some remote X applications from my fedora core 2. So, I have ssh to the fedora box and typed gedit. But it says : (gedit:12438): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: After I had export DISPLAY=freebsdboxip:0.0 it says again: (gedit:12438): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: But I can run freebsd application from my fedora core 2. What is the problem? If you are using ssh anyway, you can tell ssh to do X11 forwarding. Read the man page first as there is some slight security risks involved depending on the way your machine is used. Try this: --- $ ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] With versions of openssh newer than 3.8, you probably want -Y instead of -X. Password: enter password hostname$ xterm --- Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpWXZ9suaRZj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gnome2 over an ssh2 connection
On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 09:46:10PM -0700, Joshua Lewis wrote: I connect to my FreeBSD system from a PowerBook and was wondering (mostly for fun) if I can run Gnome2 or KDE or something within a Terminal connection on my PowerBook. Yes, but you need an X server for your power book. Apple has a copy of XFree86 available on their website, I'd recomend installing it. I can manage my FreeBSD system fine from a CLI but thought it would be fun to run Gnome or KDE. Yea, you could run a whole Gnome or KDE desktop over ssh, but it might be a little slow. I'd recommend using VNC or running a local KDE or Gnome desktop on the powerbook and only remote the apps you need to. Is what I am mentioning even feasible? Right now after following the handbook for installing gnome2 (5.7.1.2 Installing GNOME) I startx and get an error Fatal server error: xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O. You can't run startx over ssh. startx is used to start the X server and the initial clients, but you need the X server to run on the power book where the mouse and keyboard is, not the freebsd box. That's why you need to install X on the power book. All the clients like the KDE desktop and xsolitaire can be run off of the freebsd box, but the X server is the program that access the display, mouse, and keyboard and so it has to run on the machine your in front of. If I am just loony let me know otherwise if what I am trying to do is feasible I will ask the gnome mailing list. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpI04Gy0BIvr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: vmware alternative for freebsd?
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 02:43:38PM +0100, Grant wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Didier Wiroth Sent: 19 April 2005 14:35 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: vmware alternative for freebsd? the ports tree. I was wondering if there are any alternatives to vmware, commercial or freeware. I'm talking about a host version (I'm not talking about guest OSes). Hey, There is a few out there for fbsd.. but the only one I have used with success is qemu. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/emulators/qemu/pkg-descr Its quite quick, but I feel it isn't as quick as vmware is/was. But it is something to look at, if its just simple things you need from it it will be fine, but anything CPU heavy I find its not great on. Another one that you might want to look at is bochs http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/emulators/bochs/pkg-descr There is also wine, depending on what exactly you need. Dosbox is nice if all you need to do runs in dos. I cant really say much about this one, I've tried it before but never got anywhere, so it might be good for what you need. Or it might be rubbish :) Anyways gotta do some work :) Bye. Grant. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpOYx67f2UlN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ELF type 3 not known
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:28:27PM -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote: I got this error on one of two 4.11 boxes. is linux.ko loaded? That's the module responsible for reconizing elf type 3 if I'm not mistaken. The other box seems to have upgraded without incident. I use gnome_upgrade.sh --- Installing the new version via the port with make flags: BATCH=yes GNOME_UPGRADE_SH_VER=2.10-3 DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=1 === Installing for linux-gtk2-2.2.1_3 === linux-gtk2-2.2.1_3 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 - found === linux-gtk2-2.2.1_3 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 - found === linux-gtk2-2.2.1_3 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0 - found === linux-gtk2-2.2.1_3 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 - found === linux-gtk2-2.2.1_3 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/lib/libpng12.so.0.1.2.7 - found === linux-gtk2-2.2.1_3 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/lib/libtiff.so.3.6.1 - found === linux-gtk2-2.2.1_3 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0.200.1 - found === linux-gtk2-2.2.1_3 depends on executable: rpm - found === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2 already installed gtk2-2.2.1-4.i386.rpm ELF binary type 3 not known. Abort trap *** Error code 134 Steven Friedrich 5112 Mount Holyoke Drive Louisville, KY 40216 502-447-7730 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpSmgCLwYDB2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Howto monitor system security
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:30:02AM +0100, h p wrote: [...] FreeBSD security email is rather anoying, because it keeps sending messages even if nothing has changed. I need an email sent to me only if there is something abnormal. What happens when someone breaks in and disables it from sending email? Think of it as a kind of heartbeat. Well, different minds work differently, but for me it adds vastly to the noise level. If everything is normal, I get a mail. If there is something wrong, I get a mail. A different one, for sure, but I have to actually read it to know. If I only get a mail in a special case, I am much more inclined to read it than if I get a mail every day for 300 days and on the 301st there is a mail with a warning. I've stopped paying attention long before that. Just my thoughts But what if that email never comes... Helge ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpS93totEUcR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Loading .bash_profile under X-Windows
On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 10:40:01AM +0200, Kiffin Gish wrote: How can I get terminal under X-Windows to load my .bash_profile (and any other stuff) that is usually loaded when at the initial prompt? A more general question might be: what files (.profile, .login, whatever) and in what order are loaded every I login via a shell and how are these settings propagated up through Gnome desktop? .bash_profile, .profile, .login are read on login shells only. When a shell is invoked by the exec() syscall, it's name is prepended with a - to mean it's a login shell and most shells work differently like reading .profile. For example running ps ax|grep bash on my system yields: ... 81288 q1 Is 0:00.02 bash 88710 q3 Is 0:00.03 -bash (bash) ... The first shell was just started normally and the second was started as a login shell. Connecting to a machine through ssh or logging in on a text console starts a login shell, but running an xterm in X-Windows or running bash from whatever shell your already in isn't since your already logged in. If you start X-Windows with the startx command, your login is considered when you first logged in on the text console and that same environment is propagated to the gui environment, gnome in your case. When you log in from a graphical log in utility, it's a little more complicated. The gui login program, whether it be xdm, gdm, or kdm starts a shell script which eventually starts your gui environment. The problem is that it's not usually the same as your login shell, but whatever shell was used to write the script. In some cases you can write your own shell script called .xsession or .Xclients in your home directory and it can load in .bash_profile and then start gnome. Thanks a lot in advance. -- Kiffin Rex Gish Gouda, The Netherlands ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpcvFFOATIxw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: egetty
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 06:50:38AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 10, 2005 4:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert I see you are using pwd command to display where in directory tree you currently pointing There is a way to configure FBSD to display the directory path as a prefix in front of the command line so you know where you are at in the directory tree at all times, thus eliminating the need to use the pwd command. Issue following command from command line set prompt = # %/ # that's #space%/space /root/.cshrc gets executed when you log on as root. Find and change the set prompt command in .cshrc to the one above and you will never have to use the pwd command again. No its to long then :) In bash, there is the ability to have it show just the current directories name instead of the whole path, I use this for my shell to cut down on space. Does (t)csh have this as well? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpMUVVmOf8Wx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X on a server Re: Freebsd vs. linux
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 09:53:12AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes: You can install the X libraries and client apps on your server -- this works fine at secure level 3 and does not require kernel configurations changes or special daemons or anything. What it allows you to do is then link software against the X libraries and then redirect the display to your workstations X server. This meets your criteria and can be handy for certain things. Your apps still run in userland only and there is no HW touching stuff. You are not running the X Server on your FBSD Server machine. I'll consider it, although it still sounds complicated. What do I gain from X that I don't already have with remote terminal sessions like those created with SecureCRT? I know it looks pretty, but what server-related things can I do with X that I cannot do with ordinary terminals? I'm not aware of anything right now; it seems that everything can be done from a command line (thank goodness--working with Windows is a nightmare precisely _because_ so many things cannot be done from a command line). Ethereal vs. tcpdump. This is the biggest reason why I have X libraries on my firewall. I don't actually run an X server on it or even have a screen on it, but I forward X11 over ssh to the client I'm working on. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgprC4BusCk5Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Portsnap necessary? CVSup insecure?
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 06:49:05PM -0500, Danny wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:35:56 +, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 06:06:07PM -0500, Danny wrote: With regards to: http://www.daemonology.net/portsnap/ Should I be concerned about my servers that use CVSup? Do the FreeBSD guru's refuse to use CVSup, or is this overkill? Depends on your threat model, i.e. what are you afraid of? I will respond to your question with a question to hopefully answer both of our questions. :) When is the last time a FreeBSD CVSup server was compromised - if ever? If it's something that cvsup doesn't protect against, and portsnap does, then use the latter. Assuming Portsnap protects and/or overcomes against all of CVSup's limitations: # CVSup is insecure. The protocol uses no encryption or signing, and any attacker who can intercept the connection can insert arbitrary data into the tree you are updating. # CVSup isn't end-to-end. Related to the previous point, this means that anyone who can compromise a CVSup mirror can feed arbitrary data to the people who are using that mirror. # CVSup isn't designed for frequent small updates. While CVSup is very good at distributing CVS trees, and is very efficient for updating a tree which has been significantly changed (eg, by a month or more of commits), it has transmits a list of all the files in the tree, which makes it quite inefficient if only a few files have changed. # CVSup uses a custom protocol. This can cause problems for people behind firewalls -- outgoing connections on port 5999 need to be permitted -- and it needs a heavyweight server (cvsupd). I don't know, it's just that if the FreeBSD org and handbook recommend using CVSup, it's can't be that bad? I don't much about portsnap, but if your looking for a secure way to do updates, plain old cvs through an ssh connection is very secure assuming you verified the fingerprint before hand. This will protect against everything mentioned above minus the cvs service itself being compromised, but then again, no protocol is safe against that. Thanks Kris, ...D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgprgbU3YbsNz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why not?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:55:00AM -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote: On Mar 14, 2005, at 7:39 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2005-03-13 16:53, Bart Silverstrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the contrary, there are numerous cases when local patches, specific to the distribution of Linux that is used, are used: https://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2002-November/msg00050.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2004-February/ msg00018.html Backported fixes are not evil, but they are bad when they are available only if you are running FooLinux version X. Just for drivers? I wasn't sure what DM was...are any of these patches that were released available as source for other Linux kernels, or are these things being released without ever giving out the source to integrate with the primary Linux kernel tree? Device mapper which is to linux as geom is to freebsd. The code was already part of the official linux 2.6 sources, redhat just wanted to use a 2.4 kernel, but still have the device mapper system up to date with 2.6. But still, there is one source kernel, and unless the vendors did something proprietary (which I don't believe they're supposed to be allowed to do), you can compile your own kernel with your own set of enabled and disabled features from the Linux kernel source tree whether you're running Red Hat or Debian; it may break if that particular distro is depending on certain features as you have it configured and you fubar the new kernel's config, but it is still a matter of tweaking that configuration to get it working again. Hardly. Configuration changes will never fix a driver that is only available as a patch to the kernel source tree, when the patch fails to apply, build or install correctly -- a common case with some drivers (i.e. Cisco VPN or SysKonnect). You're right, if you have an application that requires modification to the kernel then config changes won't fix it. But that isn't the common case, and you should be able to take that application and apply it to the kernel tree source to create the working version, no? Or are they distro specific? In the few times I ran into it the melding wasn't distro-specific. The biggest problem with all the various linux kernel is that, since linus chose to make linux be intolerant of binary drivers, you need the exact kernel that a driver was compiled for. Some vendors like nvidia provide a wrapper around their binary driver to avoid this, but many vendors shipping binary-only driver do not as was the case with my wifi card. I have to have one specific kernel of one specific linux distro, neither of which I was using at the time. Let us put aside for a while the blatant error of considering three distinct systems as one, when they are just that: three distinct systems that just happen to share a lot of code and like cooperating on work that is a benefit for all three. Then it would best be summed up as a difference in opinion over operations management and organization management. I can't download the sources for NetBSD's kernel, compile it on my FreeBSD box, and have it work no matter how much tweaking I do to the configuration...if I'm wrong, please someone correct me. Actually, you can. The NetBSD folks state that only a system relatively compliant with POSIX is required for cross-building NetBSD on a local, non-NetBSD system: http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/BUILDING?rev=1.53content- type=text/x-cvsweb-markup (See the REQUIREMENTS section.) No, I didn't mean compile it and deploy it. I mean replace my system's kernel with that kernel and have it work. The source trees are different, the resulting kernel would expect to work on a NetBSD *system*, not a FreeBSD system with a NetBSD kernel. Redundancy is good from a survival perspective. Diversity is also good, from an evolutionary perspective. For every bad thing Linus can say about having separate teams working on the systems they enjoy working with, we can probably come up with htwo reasons why this is good. Again, it's a difference in organization and management opinion. Hardly. Otherwise, it would be easy to point a browser to a single, central place and browse the history of the Linux kernel from 0.9.x to 1.x and then to 2.x. The fact that some bits are available in a proprietary repository somewhere is not good enough. I was under the impression that kernel.org was the authoritative source for the Linux kernel. What people are doing on the side was their own project. *shrug* I could be wrong :-) kernel.org is the official source of straight vanilla linux, but no distros use vanilla linux, they all have tons of patchs applied to it, some more than others. Even source code device drivers sometimes have trouble compiling with these heavily patch kernels. Each distro has too worry about what security patches their
Re: DPMS not turning off LCD screen
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 10:25:45PM -0500, Stephen J. Roznowski wrote: I have a Sony SDM-HX93 LCD monitor running off an Nvidia GeForce FX 5500. I have the DPMS option set in my xorg configuration file, but while the screen turns off, the monitor never enters power off mode (it remains 'backlit'). Any suggestions where to look for the error? What does xset say about dpms? You may have to tell xscreensaver or kdesktop specifically to use dpms in addition to the xorg.conf file. Thanks, -- Stephen J. Roznowski([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpypV35bDaH4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ipfw or pf
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:41:23PM +0100, Albert Shih wrote: Le 03/03/2005 ? 13:07:53-0800, Loren M. Lang a ?crit Well it's not de syntaxes, I always use packet filter system (sometime on hardware like Foundry/Cisco) where the rule is : First match first use. And the pf use entire rules is very strange for me (I known I can use ?quick? butwell it's not the philosophy I think). I like first match better too, but I think pf is sufficiently better that I just use it with quick over ipfw. Better on what ? More security features like srubbing packets. This can look for errors like bad tcp flag combinations that some port scanners might use. Also, it is just more flexible by using tables for matches that can even be updated dynamically. ipf and ipfw would require a completely new rule to change the firewall. Tables can be used to, say, keep track of a blacklist of ip address like the ones that keep trying to log into ssh accounts on my server that don't exists. pf also has built-in passive os fingerprinting if you think that might be useful. Read through the pf faq on openbsd.org. I really like to known. And my question is not a troll or something like that. Regards -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. Heure local/Local time: Fri Mar 4 13:40:29 CET 2005 -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpFJzYOvayaR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify?
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 09:47:31AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: Is there an easy way to combine a backup and verify when doing backups with dump? On Windows NT it's just a matter of checking a box. I seem to recall the last time I looked into this on UNIX there was no easy way to accomplish a verify operation for a backup, but perhaps things have changed with FreeBSD 5.3 (?). I've never had a problem with backup (I backup to DAT tape), but I'd feel better if every backup was followed by a verify to make sure the tape is readable. Actually, if used frequently for backups - such as every day, DAT is notoriously prone to failure.So, it is a good idea to check dumps made to DAT. Unfortunately, there is not a reasonable way to automatically do it. There is a verify, but it cannot work on a running system, because it compares files (inodes) on the tape back to the ones on disk. Any changes mean an error, even if it was a real change in the file between the time it was written and the time it was read back. The only real thing you can do is to read back the tape and look for a couple of files with fairly high inode numbers for each file system dumped.If you can read them, you can assume the tape is readable. I'm not very familiar with tapes, but I think that the dump is written straight out to something like /dev/st0 right? So then wouldn't a second dump of the same snapshot diffed to the tape device be a good for a verify? Position tape at beginning of dump dump / | diff - /dev/st0 Though I don't have much experience with either dump or tapes to verify. jerry -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgphHnj25wEf4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to merge an unused partition.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 09:09:47PM -0600, Chris wrote: Heya folks - here's my issue; I removed a OS from my drive and that freed up 10 gig. I wish to merge the free 10 gig into my FreeBSD file system. Here's what she looks like via fdisk: Disk name: ad1FDISK Partition Editor DISK Geometry: 9729 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 156296385 sectors (76316MB) Offset Size(MB)End Name PType Desc Subtype 0 10236 20964824- 12 unused0 20964825 66079 156296384ad1s1 8freebsd 165 156296385 2 156301487- 12 unused0 So - what do I need to do to take the 1st line and merge it into the existing system? The big problem with merging it in is that everything is designed to grow at the end, not at the beginning. growfs can be used to extend a filesystem afterwards, but not before. One idea that might work is to use some kind of volume management system like vinum. If your current system already used that, this would be a simple matter. What you could do though it to setup vinum on the unused partition and start moving data over. Eventually you could extend vinum with the second partition once all the data is moved over. If you aren't using more than about 9 gigs total on freebsd right now, then you just have to move data over once. Sorry for the formatting ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgp7JX8FtIu5h.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: chmod equivalent to find commands
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 06:53:59AM -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
hello.
i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that
can be summed up in one chmod command:
find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
The EXACT equivalent would be:
find . -type d -exec chmod u=rwx,go=rx {} \;
find . -type f -exec chmod u=rw,go=r {} \;
But I take it that that isn't exactly what your looking for. Your
probably looking for something like chmod -R u=rwX,go=rX .
it fixes my permissions ...
i haven't tested this yet but i think it's wrong: chmod -R u+rwX,a+rX
This may work it depends on exactly what you need to do and how bad your
permissions are messed up. Instead of a+rX, it might be better to do
go+rX since you already have u covered, but I don't think it will make a
big difference. Also, this adds to the existing permissions, it won't
take away any permissions like my example earlier does. Lastly, the big
difference between this and the find version is that the find version,
both mine and yours, will set the execute bit on all directories and not
on any normal files where the recursive chmod with the X permission with
set the x permission on any file/directory that already has at least one
type of execute permission already set and not on any other files or
directories. So if your permissions are messed so badly that you have
directories without any execute permission, this won't fix that. The
find version on the other hand will ignore everything that is not a
normal file or directory (i.e. fifos, sockets, device files), but this
probably won't be a big deal either. The single recursive chmod I gave
you will most likely be what you need.
what would be the best solution here?
thanks,
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Re: chmod equivalent to find commands
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 09:53:02PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
On 2005-03-12 10:30, Eric McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
hello.
i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that
can be summed up in one chmod command:
find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
Uhm, why? Even if that were possible, isn't clarity more important that
stuffing as many actions as possible in one line?
What you list above is similar to the way I use for changing the
permissions of files/dirs and it works all the time.
There's no reason to try to write one, long, complicated command just
for the sake of making it one command instead of two. Otherwise, you
may as well do more complex stuff like:
Summing it up into one command does not neccessarily mean it's longer or
more complicated. I use the following command all the time to fix
permissions similar to what he seems to be doing. Though it's not
technically equivalent, it's probably all he needs.
chmod -R u=rwX,go=rX .
My umask of 022 simplifies the command to the following:
chmod -R =rwX .
find . | while read line; do
mode=''
[ -d ${line} ] mode=0755
[ -f ${line} ] mode=0644
[ -n ${mode} ] echo chmod ${mode} \${line}\
done | sh
But this is getting quickly very difficult to remember easily and repeat
consistently every time you want to do something similar :)
what would be the best solution here?
I would do it the same way you do, but with xargs instead:
find . -type X -print0 | xargs -0 chmod XXX
This is an excellent way to do this, IMHO.
If you were feeling crazy and use sh:
find . | while read path; do \
if [ -d $path ]; then chmod 755;
else chmod 644; fi; \
done
I guess you meant to write:
find . | while read path; do \
if [ -d $path ]; then chmod 755 ${path};
else chmod 644 ${path}; fi; \
done
Otherwise, many chmod failures are the only result.
But this has a minor buglet. It will change everything that is not a
directory to mode 0644. This mode is ok for files, but it may not be ok
(or it may even fail) for other stuff (symbolic links, for instance).
- Giorgos
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Re: chmod equivalent to find commands
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 02:09:12AM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote:
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 06:53:59AM -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
hello.
i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that
can be summed up in one chmod command:
find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
The EXACT equivalent would be:
find . -type d -exec chmod u=rwx,go=rx {} \;
find . -type f -exec chmod u=rw,go=r {} \;
But I take it that that isn't exactly what your looking for. Your
probably looking for something like chmod -R u=rwX,go=rX .
And one last thing, I'm assuming your umask is probably 022. When chmod
doesn't have the u, g, o, or a qualifies, then it uses the umask to mask
the permission bits as appropriate so the command can be simplified to
the following:
chmod -R =rwX .
it fixes my permissions ...
i haven't tested this yet but i think it's wrong: chmod -R u+rwX,a+rX
This may work it depends on exactly what you need to do and how bad your
permissions are messed up. Instead of a+rX, it might be better to do
go+rX since you already have u covered, but I don't think it will make a
big difference. Also, this adds to the existing permissions, it won't
take away any permissions like my example earlier does. Lastly, the big
difference between this and the find version is that the find version,
both mine and yours, will set the execute bit on all directories and not
on any normal files where the recursive chmod with the X permission with
set the x permission on any file/directory that already has at least one
type of execute permission already set and not on any other files or
directories. So if your permissions are messed so badly that you have
directories without any execute permission, this won't fix that. The
find version on the other hand will ignore everything that is not a
normal file or directory (i.e. fifos, sockets, device files), but this
probably won't be a big deal either. The single recursive chmod I gave
you will most likely be what you need.
what would be the best solution here?
thanks,
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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 05:06:40AM -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: hello i find that loader prompt very frustrating: 1. it is *VERY* unprofessional I don't see much difference between seeing a giant daemon, a giant window, and a giant apple on startup. 2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world It's not a demon, but a daemon. 3. it's bad for my image too, when other people see it, they laugh and go: is THAT your supersystem? blah All my friends think it's so much cooler than that penguin they used to see. All that aside, I think putting beastie_disable=YES in /boot/loader.conf will do the trick. somebody please tell me, how do i remove it? i don't want anything to do with it. thanks, -- fafa -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgp7dMP90u3ee.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: chmod equivalent to find commands
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 05:33:12AM -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
I think it's really best that I stick to my find commands.
chmod -R u=rwX,go=rX . worked really fast but it also made all
my files executable.
That should only of happened if they already had at least one execute
bit set. Now if you mistyped it as a lower-case x, then it's garenteed
to set the execute bit.
Bad idea, asking for such a command.
By the way, umask 022? What is meant by that?
umask is used to mask off certain permission bits from being set when a
file is created. Most files are created with permissions 666, but a
umask of 022 will mask it to 644. For directories it would mask 777 to
755. Other common umask are 002, 027, and 077.
Umask: 022 002 027 077 022 002 027 077
Start: 666 666 666 666 777 777 777 777
Finish: 644 664 640 600 755 775 750 700
The techninal operation is mode ~umask
Now when you use the string =rwX instead of something like u=rwX, no
qualifier in front of the =, +, or - sign, then it sets all bits minus
what is masked off so a umask of 022 will prevent it from setting the
write bit on group or other permissions.
- Original Message -
From: Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: chmod equivalent to find commands
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:15:00 -0800
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 09:53:02PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
On 2005-03-12 10:30, Eric McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
hello.
i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that
can be summed up in one chmod command:
find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
Uhm, why? Even if that were possible, isn't clarity more important that
stuffing as many actions as possible in one line?
What you list above is similar to the way I use for changing the
permissions of files/dirs and it works all the time.
There's no reason to try to write one, long, complicated command just
for the sake of making it one command instead of two. Otherwise, you
may as well do more complex stuff like:
Summing it up into one command does not neccessarily mean it's longer or
more complicated. I use the following command all the time to fix
permissions similar to what he seems to be doing. Though it's not
technically equivalent, it's probably all he needs.
chmod -R u=rwX,go=rX .
My umask of 022 simplifies the command to the following:
chmod -R =rwX .
find . | while read line; do
mode=''
[ -d ${line} ] mode=0755
[ -f ${line} ] mode=0644
[ -n ${mode} ] echo chmod ${mode} \${line}\
done | sh
But this is getting quickly very difficult to remember easily and repeat
consistently every time you want to do something similar :)
what would be the best solution here?
I would do it the same way you do, but with xargs instead:
find . -type X -print0 | xargs -0 chmod XXX
This is an excellent way to do this, IMHO.
If you were feeling crazy and use sh:
find . | while read path; do \
if [ -d $path ]; then chmod 755;
else chmod 644; fi; \
done
I guess you meant to write:
find . | while read path; do \
if [ -d $path ]; then chmod 755 ${path};
else chmod 644 ${path}; fi; \
done
Otherwise, many chmod failures are the only result.
But this has a minor buglet. It will change everything that is not a
directory to mode 0644. This mode is ok for files, but it may not be ok
(or it may even fail) for other stuff (symbolic links, for instance).
- Giorgos
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Re: Incorrect geometry
On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 10:32:19PM -0600, Mike Loiterman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Kinsey mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Loiterman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 When I do a new install of FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE I get an error saying the drive geometry is incorrect. In the next screen, I put in the correct geometry, as reported by the BIOS, but after I hit q, I get the same error. The drive is a brand new 160 SATA Segate. The geometry FreeBSD suggests yield 152 Gigs, slices correctly and functions perfectly. I'm plannning on reformating anyway as this is only a test run, but do I need to be conserned about the error? Isn't the rest of the error message using a more likely geometry? IANAE, but I believe FBSD is simply stating that it doesn't find the BIOS's numbers to be what it wants, so it's going to use its own. This would explain the effect you see in the second sentence above. As yield, slice, and function seems OK, I think go for it! is perfectly good advice in this instance. I've seen the error several times, too, and so far so good. I am willing to be corrected by my betters, though, of course. Kevin Kinsey It does say, using a more likely geometry. The numbers are vastly different then what the BIOS says, but as I said, the capacity seems correct and it functions normally. I just don't want to have any trouble down the road... It shouldn't be a problem. Geometries nowdays aren't as useful as they used to be and aren't really used much, LBA alleviates most of that. The geometries that FreeBSD uses aren't the same that the drive internally uses. In fact, using geometries has been the cause of an old 8 gig limit on hard drives, a newer 137 gig limit, and an old boot loader problem booting anything over cylinder 1023. As for the missing 8 gigs, that's probably because your hard drive manufacture used SI units (10^3=1000) instead of the standard units (2^10=1024) just to make the number look bigger. My 250 gig drive is only 238 gig in reality. - -- Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBQjJw02jZbUnRudGOEQIFgACghb4rW7h8yi7Gy51D427MDeIlfMQAn1b5 v4YVKUhIT9gwS6SZBMDDwYK0 =KtaI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpFxXlYrciuB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: To Jail behind NAT or not.
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 03:15:57AM -0800, BSD Mail wrote: Greetings all, I have the following topology: Internet - Gateway - DMZ | LAN I'm using PF to redirect traffic to the DMZ machine which carries the following: bind9;postfix;dovecot(imaps,pop3s),openwebmail;apache13;isc dhcp;sfs,ftps I have ssl certs for services such as mail/web/ftp. The gateway machine has 3 NICs and doesn't have any service enabled on its external interface nor internal. Remote access is denied to the gateway only console access allowed. It only forwards traffic to the inside DMZ. Also my LAN is on a different subnet from the DMZ. If all my services are behind that NAT box is it premature or too much paranoid to have multiple jails one for postfix another for apache and so on..on the DMZ machine that is hosting all these services ? Or can I say that I'm protected to a good extent that jail won't give me any additional protection because services are behind NAT ? An NAT router doesn't protect against buffer overflows in apache or postfix, or any other number of bugs that they may have. All nat really does is prevents someone from trying to connect to arbitrary ports of arbitrary machines behind the router that aren't being forwarded inside, but it doesn't protect the ports that are forwarded like http to your dmz machine. I use SSH keys to access anymachin on my network, and I have OTP configured if I needed access from outside my network for college. Thanks for the insight. -- Regards, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpfJgq6FVT3R.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Location of disklabel
On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 04:32:30PM -0500, Carl J wrote: Hi all! To all your FS guru's outthere, I desperately need to know where the disklabel is stored (since my disk is in trouble!) Situation: My /dev/ad0s1 has 2 partitions: a (FS) followed by b (swap). By using disklabel -r, I see my a and b indeed take up the entire slice. My desperate question: Where, then, is the disklabel stored? The second sector of the slice that the disklabel is partitioning. For example, a disklabel on your first slice would be stored in the second sector of /dev/ad0s1. The command dd if=/dev/ad0s1 skip=1 | hexdump will give you a hexdump of the disklabel. Since the 'a' partition of the disklabel normally starts at the beginning of the slice that the disklabel is in, it is identical to reading from the slice directly, just a little shorter. Also, the 'c' partition always covers the entire slice so it is identical assuming the disklabel isn't messed up. Somewhere in the partition table? The Master Boot Record? The reserved cylinder #0? No, msdos partition table that creates what are called slices in the bsd world reside in the last few byte of the Master boot record, but this has nothing to do with the disklabel that is stored in the slice. And normally the only thing you will find in cylinder 0 is the master boot record which is the very first sector of the hard disk. Or is it stored somewhere inside /dev/ad0s1a ?? (if that's the case, does that mean the UFS1 intentionally left some space unused, for this purpose? And if so, is it always at a fixed location within a UFS1 slice?) Actually, since the 'a' partition is the same as the beginning of the slice it's in, the ufs filesystem always skips the first 16 sectors of whatever partition it's in. What if in my slice, I have SWAP first, and then UFS1, then does that mean the SWAP Format also reserves some unused space for the disklabel to go??? Sorry if the question is stupid. I just somehow couldn't logically see where it would be stored, and yet be compatible with having other OS on the same drive... etc. Thanks! - Carl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpSnGRsgOe1o.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why not?
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:24:42PM -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote: On Mar 12, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Chris wrote: Aperez wrote: Hello everybdody I read an interview of Linus Torvald made by Linux Magazine. In that interview Linus mentioned the following: On the other hand, no, Linux does not have that stupid notion of having totally separate kernel development for different issues. If you want a secure BSD, you get OpenBSD; if you want a usable BSD, you get FreeBSD; and if you want BSD on other architectures, you get NetBSD. That___s just idiotic, to have different teams worry about different things. Here's irony posed as a question: ... and how many distros of Linux are there? I think the difference is that Linus is working on the Linux kernel. The distros, numerous as they are, all run the same kernel. Those separate distros package the other applications and userland apps and default configs. The kernel itself isn't under separate forks, whereas from what I understand the kernels for FBSD/NetBSD/OBSD are very similar, share a lot of crossed-over code, but are not identical and have separate management teams behind them. While each distros kernel is probably less different than a NetBSD vs. FreeBSD kernel, there still each different and a lot more of them. I had to download and install a very specific kernel from redhat to use on my debian system so I could use my wireless card. Also, some features can very wildly like IPSEC, some distros patch in FreeSWAN's stack, others the KAME stack. The Linux distros keep getting their kernel workings from one group (even if they tweak them). The BSDs do not. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpxXSubHNRO4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 04:47:17PM +0100, Luyt wrote: On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:06, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: 2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world What is the daemon doing to that funny penguin? http://gbraad.spotsnel.nl/images/takeittux.png I don't think that things like this really reflect the good side of the BSD community. Though I think there's at least as much, if not more coming from the Linux community, we don't need to do it. -- The ability of the OSS process to collect and harness the collective IQ of thousands of individuals across the Internet is simply amazing. - Vinod Vallopillil http://www.opensource.org/halloween/halloween4.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpCAPLg8fTQ7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Synaptics Touchpad driver
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 10:48:46AM -0800, Mikko Ty?l?j?rvi wrote: Hi, On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, Loren M. Lang wrote: It seems that FreeBSD 5.3 now has support in the kernel for the synaptics touchpad that my laptop has. Right now it's just running as a normal mouse, it looks like the support is disabled by default. In isa/psm.c, I can see the synaptics support in there, but it's disabled unless hw.psm.synaptics_support is set to 1. My question is how do I set it to one? It's setup as a TUNABLE_INT, but there is no sysctl for it. Does it only appear on boot? It is not a sysctl, it is a kernel tunable. You control it from the boot loader, for example by putting hw.psm.synaptics_support=1 into /boot/loader.conf. See loader.conf(5) and /boot/defaults/loader.conf for more information. That's what I was wondering and I tried to set it in the loader, but I haven't noticed a difference. No added sysctls to tune the touchpad, no kernel messages showing anything obvious, the touchpad still acts the same, etc. Also, I looked through the kernel sources for other TUNABLE_INT's: ... /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_all.c: TUNABLE_INT_FETCH(kern.cam.scsi_delay, delay); /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_cd.c:TUNABLE_INT(kern.cam.cd.changer.min_busy_seconds, changer_min_busy_seconds); /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_cd.c:TUNABLE_INT(kern.cam.cd.changer.max_busy_seconds, changer_max_busy_seconds); /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_cd.c:TUNABLE_INT_FETCH(tmpstr, softc-minimum_command_size); /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c:TUNABLE_INT(kern.cam.da.retry_count, da_retry_count); /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c:TUNABLE_INT(kern.cam.da.default_timeout, da_default_timeout); /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c:TUNABLE_INT_FETCH(tmpstr, softc-minimum_cmd_size); ... sysctls -a|grep cam: kern.cam.scsi_delay: 15000 kern.cam.cd.changer.min_busy_seconds: 5 kern.cam.cd.changer.max_busy_seconds: 15 kern.cam.da.retry_count: 4 kern.cam.da.default_timeout: 60 It looks like all these tunables are also sysctls. $.02, /Mikko -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgp1pYM6vabIY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kerberos problems
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 05:30:09PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 03:38:46PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I followed the handbook guide to setting it up, and it all seems to be working ok. I have now setup telnetd as described to test how it is working. If I have done a kinit previously, it will log in no problem, but if I do not do a kinit (or do a kdestroy before hand) I get - kerberos V5: mk_req (No Such File or direcotry). Any ideas? That sounds like it's working normally. Without a valid ticket (as shown by `klist`), which is cached in a file, services like telent which use Kerberos won't authenticate you. If I'm misunderstanding the problem you're describing, please add some more detail as to what you expected to have happen and how reality differed :-) Yeah, it could well be the way it is supposed to work. Basically I want to end up with a centralised login system for my network (i.e. no need to create usernames on each client). I am planning to use ldap for this, and as I understand it ldap can use kerberos for the authentication aspect. So I am atm trying to make sure I have a good understanding of the kerberos system and have it up and running before I tackle the next part. what I was assuming would happen when I try to telnet in without a ticket (i.e. with running kinit) was that I would get asked for a username/password, and then I would get issued a ticket, rather than manually having to kinit first. I believe the difference is that kinit is used to get kerberos credentials after you have logged on by some other means. If you use pam_krb5, then it will be using the kerberos for authentication instead of the local passwd file and also save the credentials. The way your currently doing it the local system still will need the user and passwd to log them in before they can run kinit, with pam_krb5 this can be avoided. How would this affect using pam to authenticate i.e. if I want to use pam_krb to login to the console, I would not be able to run kinit before hand? [Apologies for sending this to you twice tillman , need to be more careful with the reply to button :)] Cheers, Martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgp8zRJpipQqH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: upgrade a couple of nearly identical machines
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 07:57:57PM +0100, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: I run three machines with FreeBSD-4.11 and lots of the same ports installed. Upgrading these three must be more easy then running portupgrade on every machine again and again, upgrading the same ports multiple times. This is waste of cpu power ;-) Does anybody has suggestions on how to handle this situation in a more practicle way? You could use portupgrade to upgrade one machine with the -W option so it won't clean up after itself, then nfs mount the ports directory on another machine and use portupgrade -wWar to upgrade them if I'm not mistaken. If that doesn't work, you could create a binary package of everything installed and copy them over and install them with pkg_add. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpzhGy5whZXp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why not?
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 04:53:36PM -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote: On Mar 13, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Loren M. Lang wrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:24:42PM -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote: On Mar 12, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Chris wrote: Aperez wrote: Hello everybdody I read an interview of Linus Torvald made by Linux Magazine. In that interview Linus mentioned the following: On the other hand, no, Linux does not have that stupid notion of having totally separate kernel development for different issues. If you want a secure BSD, you get OpenBSD; if you want a usable BSD, you get FreeBSD; and if you want BSD on other architectures, you get NetBSD. That___s just idiotic, to have different teams worry about different things. Here's irony posed as a question: ... and how many distros of Linux are there? I think the difference is that Linus is working on the Linux kernel. The distros, numerous as they are, all run the same kernel. Those separate distros package the other applications and userland apps and default configs. The kernel itself isn't under separate forks, whereas from what I understand the kernels for FBSD/NetBSD/OBSD are very similar, share a lot of crossed-over code, but are not identical and have separate management teams behind them. While each distros kernel is probably less different than a NetBSD vs. FreeBSD kernel, there still each different and a lot more of them. I had to download and install a very specific kernel from redhat to use on my debian system so I could use my wireless card. Also, some features can very wildly like IPSEC, some distros patch in FreeSWAN's stack, others the KAME stack. Some vendors may be directly patching certain features, for the most part you shouldn't have to download a specific kernel for a feature to work in Linux unless you wanted it pre-packaged. You should be able to update it by downloading the latest features, running the config to enable/disable what features you want compiled into the kernel (or as modules), then compile it. Well, the vendor for my wireless card provided a binary-only driver with a small open-source wrapper. The wrapper was just a piece of garbage though and compiling it for a different kernel didn't work. The driver was designed for redhat's 2.4.18-3 kernel. That kernel had a couple of issues and redhat issued an update, 2.4.18-10. The wireless card driver wouldn't even work on the -10 kernel, it would crash my system everytime, I had to use the -3 kernel to use it at all. This is one of the problems/features of the linux kernel, it doesn't work with binary device drivers like the *BSD kernel do. When everything else breaks because the kernel version changed and something specific is linked to something that depends on something from the previous kernel's config, then you get to delve into some real fun. But still, there is one source kernel, and unless the vendors did something proprietary (which I don't believe they're supposed to be allowed to do), you can compile your own kernel with your own set of enabled and disabled features from the Linux kernel source tree whether you're running Red Hat or Debian; it may break if that particular distro is depending on certain features as you have it configured and you fubar the new kernel's config, but it is still a matter of tweaking that configuration to get it working again. I can't download the sources for NetBSD's kernel, compile it on my FreeBSD box, and have it work no matter how much tweaking I do to the configuration...if I'm wrong, please someone correct me. I *think* (and I'm not following the story closely) what Linus was saying is that it's stupid to have so many people working in parallel on such similar cousins...NetBSD, OpenBSD, and FreeBSD. They share code, they share info, but optimize for certain goals and have a lot of redundancy. Linux's kernel is Linux's kernel, modified by individuals but still one big bulky source tree to work from. Is one way less intelligent than others? I don't know. I never studied it :-) All I know is that in general, for most end users, it doesn't matter...if they stick with a particular distro and their sources and packages, then things tend to work. Linux has fragmented so much that it's difficult to get a package aimed at distro A and have it work on distro B despite them both being Linux. For the BSD's, it's pretty much always worked as if it's in the port tree, you have the package in question work. Otherwise, work from sources. And instructions to get a package working on *BSD pretty much always work whereas for Linux you may run Debian but find instructions for what you're trying to do written for an audience running Red Hat, so you need to translate things as you go along. -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT
Re: Howto monitor system security
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 09:58:41PM +, Sergei Gnezdov wrote: Sorry, it is a rather generic message, but the problem is a generic as well. I am running my FreeBSD machine on DMZ. I use ipfw and I expose http and smtp ports. I also expose sshd port, but only to a trusted network (work). I'd like to know what is the best way to monitor my machine security. FreeBSD security email is rather anoying, because it keeps sending messages even if nothing has changed. I need an email sent to me only if there is something abnormal. What happens when someone breaks in and disables it from sending email? Think of it as a kind of heartbeat. snip ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpTe74KjYi1t.pgp Description: PGP signature
Synaptics Touchpad driver
It seems that FreeBSD 5.3 now has support in the kernel for the synaptics touchpad that my laptop has. Right now it's just running as a normal mouse, it looks like the support is disabled by default. In isa/psm.c, I can see the synaptics support in there, but it's disabled unless hw.psm.synaptics_support is set to 1. My question is how do I set it to one? It's setup as a TUNABLE_INT, but there is no sysctl for it. Does it only appear on boot? -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpsJDzwGU3KT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: /boot like linux!
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 06:08:24PM -0500, Jesse Guardiani wrote: Hello, I'm a FreeBSD 5.3 user as well as a Gentoo Linux user. In Gentoo linux, you only have to create 3 partitions: /boot swap / In FreeBSD, you seem to have to create many more: / swap /usr /var /tmp This is standard for all unices including linux to create all these partitions. On all my servers whether they be Linux, Solaris, or BSD I create just as many partitions. You can just create / and swap on BSD or Linux just as easily, but it's good practice for servers to break it up. What happens when some program like dhcpd goes crazy and fills up the log files with many megabytes of log entries. Well, on my system, it just filled up /var, but users kept chugging along with their work on /home. Or what about that rouge user that fills /home with several gigabytes of junk. My system daemons are still running fine working in /var. The most important think though is to not fill up / as that should contain only the most important tools neccessary to boot and fix a system, everything else is better if kept on a seperate partition, particuarly anything that is constantly reading and writing like programs use /var, /tmp, and /home for. But this is only recomendation, not a requirement for any unice. As for /boot, that's only a neccesity for certain older boot loaders running on older hardware, but with large harddrives, greater than 512 megs, I believe. On modern systems it's unneccessary. I don't bother creating /boot partitions on any of my systems anymore, it's not needed regardless of what other people may tell you. FreeBSD would have the same problem if it was created on a partition starting after cylinder 1023 on the same older hardware, but I've never had to run into that hardware with FreeBSD so I'm not sure how they combat it. In particular, it seems that /boot MUST be on the same partition as /. This stinks, as now you have to create separate partitions for /usr and /var, which wastes space. I tried to make /boot it's own partition, and I succeeded, to a certain extent. I actually made /boot/boot, because the FreeBSD 5.3 boot manager wants to look under the /boot directory for loader. If /boot is it's own partition, then you need a /boot/boot/loader. Anyway, that worked. The kernel boots now, but it prompts me at the beginning of the rc process for the root device. I give it: ufs:ad1s1d Which is my / partition, and it boots successfully. Is it possible to automate this process so that the loader knows to use ad1s1d as my root device? Thanks! -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgp7ApK6vka3K.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: /boot like linux!
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 07:45:19PM -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: Jesse Guardiani wrote: On Thursday 03 March 2005 5:41 pm, [someone] wrote: snip It's *best* to make more partitions (esp for /var) so that if something goes out of control logging, or you just neglect your logs, it doesn't go and fill up your only (ie / ) partition. Like most *nix OS's, it can be as simple or as complicated as you want it to be. I want / + /boot. It's that simple. A /boot for FreeBSD should really be unneccessary, that is more of a necessity in the past and more of a linux thing anyways, but I don't use one even on my linux systems anymore. What are you really trying to accomplish? You want to run softupdates on / ? I believe it is perfectly acceptable to use softupdates on the root partition these days. The Handbook recommends turning on softupdates for all filesystems. See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-disk.html I'm pretty sure my test system at home has only / and swap (because it has a small hard drive), and uses softupdates on /. I'll check when I get home. If you have some other reason for separating /boot from /, explain your actual goal, and perhaps we can help. - Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgp3lTb4AN70Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Does 802.11b use a lot of resources?
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 08:32:55AM -0800, Christopher Kelley wrote: Loren M. Lang wrote: On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 01:26:45AM -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: On Friday 25 February 2005 12:06 am, Christopher Kelley wrote: Have I tried too hard to squeeze usability out of an old computer? I have a Pentium-166 that has been a faithful router firewall (FreeBSD 5.3 and pf) for a couple years now. It has no trouble with the 3 to 4 Mbps I get from my broadband connection, at least not with ethernet. I wanted wireless, so I could use my laptop around the house. I dutifully read the section in the manual about setting up FreeBSD as an access point. I'm using a Netgear MA311 802.11b card (Prism 2.5 chipset). And it does work, except it's very slow. Now I know that I can only expect about 50% of the rated speed with wireless, but I figured even if I got only 4Mbps, I'd be fine. But I get less than 1Mbps. I've updated the firmware, added a signal booster and hi-gain antenna, and I have excellent signal strength throughout my house. So my question is, is there more overhead with wireless than with ethernet? TOP doesn't seem to show that I'm taxing it too hard, idle never goes below about 70% with polling enabled (Hz=1000), and never below about 80% with polling disabled. Am I expecting too much out of an old Pentium-166? My experience is that: 1) 50% throughput is probably the best you should expect. I generally plan on 3-4 Mbps for an 11 Mbps 802.11b card. 2) Using 128-bit encryption (WEP) will significantly slow down some (many?) cards. The WEP processing is done on the card (I think), and they simply don't have hefty processors. If you use 128-bit WEP, try 64-bit WEP and see if that speeds things up. 64 bit WEP is adequate to keep out casual snoopers, and 128 bit is not adequate to keep out a serious attacker, so the difference in security may not be as important as some believe. 64-bit WEP is also known as 40-bit, and similarly for 128-bit WEP. Actually, what I recommend for home you, if you have the time, is IPSEC. Much more secure than WEP and it's all done on the main cpu so it should slow the wifi down as much. There's a good article on freebsddiary.org I believe. I found the article on freebsddiary, and I admit I only skimmed it, but I have a mix of FreeBSD and Windows (XP) on my wireless network, and for now I'd like to keep it as simple as possible. I just wanted to mention that I have IPSEC running with several Win2k computers and it works great. The configuration is relatively simple, the main problem was a couple of tweaks I needed to give to racoon, but the windows side was even easier. It's still more complicated than WEP, but it's more secure and may provide faster data transfer. Christopher ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation instructions for Firefox somewhere?
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 03:27:09AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: snip Also one other thing that is important - if you don't get an answer within a week or so, ask again, politely. How do I ask after the second post with no reply? On bended knee? Just keep asking periodically. Or, you could e-mail the developer of the SCSI device driver directly, it's not hard to read the source and see who it is, and their e-mail addresses are on the FreeBSD website. Actually, I've found lately that a good irc chatroom can help with some problems that ppl may just ignore on a mailing list. I've been hanging out in #freebsd and #netbsd on irc.freenode.net. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Received mail timestamp is off by 7 hours
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 03:11:19AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren M. Lang Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 2:29 AM To: Ian Smith Cc: Loren M. Lang; Pat Maddox; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Received mail timestamp is off by 7 hours little bit less reliable using local to UTC unless you are not affected by any daylight savings changes like Arizona in the US or, I'm sure, many other places around the world. There's no excuse for a mailserver to not be synced to a NTP source. I agree, I run ntp on every single computer I own, but I was talking in general. But for a server, I'd expect them to use UTC anyways. The only advantage I see to local time is support for other oses or reading the time in the bios, neither of which will probably be a big deal on a server. And for desktop users, they may not bother running ntp or even be on a network. Ted -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Received mail timestamp is off by 7 hours
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 01:00:15PM -0800, Luke wrote: There's no excuse for a mailserver to not be synced to a NTP source. I'd extend that to apply to any server. Practically all the things a server does are dependent in some way on the correct time. I have three excuses: 1) NTP is difficult to configure. I've done it, but it wasn't trivial. ntpdate once at boot. 2) Finding an NTP server willing to accept traffic from the public isn't easy either. For me it involved a scavenger hunt through out-of-date websites and a lot of failed attempts. http://www.nist.gov/ 3) If your clock tends to run noticably fast or slow, constant NTP corrections tend to do more harm than good, at least in my experience. It got to where I couldn't even run a buildworld because NTP kept tinkering with the clock in the middle of the process. Same as 1) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgp3yOu0GrZHj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: tab completion
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 06:50:55AM +0200, abu khaled wrote: I'm not sure if this helps but you can at least try. login as non-root (user) run this command: chsh -s /bin/tcsh you well be prompted for you non-root password logout and login again as non-root and see if it works you can su to root and use use the same command to change the root shell.(sh is recommended for root) For root, they recommend only /sbin/sh as something may break, but there is an account called toor. It is basically another name for root and you can change toor's shell to anything. Also, some ppl recommend using su -m I believe when suing to root and you keep the same shell I think. And then their's sudo in which you will almost never even need to send time as root. I hope it works!!! On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 20:24:13 -0800, Ben Munat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used vipw to set my regular user's shell to tcsh. /etc/passwd shows it correct now but I still appear to be getting sh as my shell. If I run tcsh, I then get the tab completion. But how do I get the terminal to put me in tcsh automatically? Ben Jonathan Chen wrote: On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 09:28:02AM -0800, Ben Munat wrote: None of those commands worked... However, I've also found that echo $SHELL in my regular user's terminal says /bin/sh, while as root it says /bin/csh. If you're using /bin/sh, then of course none of the given commands will work as they are for tcsh. Both root and the non-root user's shells are listed in /etc/passwd as /bin/tcsh, so where else would the shell get set? Can I just set all terminals and all users (i.e. me) to have the same shell with the same capabilities? I suspect that /etc/passwd has gotten out of sync with master.passwd. Don't edit /etc/passwd. Use vipw(1) and make your changes within there. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpbuwSaBkGE2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ipfw or pf
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 12:57:06PM +0100, Albert Shih wrote: Le 02/03/2005 ? 09:03:23+0100, Stevan Tiefert a ?crit On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Albert Shih wrote: The both packef filters are maintained! pf is ported from OpenBSD and ipfw is from FreeBSD. GreatI can continu to use ipfw;-)) Whenever two programs two syntaxes... Well it's not de syntaxes, I always use packet filter system (sometime on hardware like Foundry/Cisco) where the rule is : First match first use. And the pf use entire rules is very strange for me (I known I can use ?quick? butwell it's not the philosophy I think). I like first match better too, but I think pf is sufficiently better that I just use it with quick over ipfw. Lots of thanks for your answer. Regards. -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. 7 i?me ?tage, plateau D, bureau 10 Heure local/Local time: Wed Mar 2 12:54:22 CET 2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpiBXaBTrSo9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Documentation Error?
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 11:19:07AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/confi gtuning-v irtual-hosts.html states that adding a virtual address is done in rc.conf like this: ifconfig_fxp0=inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_fxp0_alias0=inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 Shouldn't it be this instead? ifconfig_fxp0=inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_fxp0_alias0=alias 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 No. The actual command to make one is: ifconfig fxp0 inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias So you do need to pass the inet to ifconfig. The _alias0 makes the script pass the trailing alias H, So what is happening when no 'inet' is in the string? It seems to work fine.Is something still not right and just waiting to explode?We have lots of servers configured that way. Looking at ifconfig(8), I believe it's purely optional, ifconfig can reconize what address type your giving it. It's more useful when using ifconfig to display information. I've done it both ways and if your servers work now, I doubt they'll blow up later. It is probably something that was required in the past. jerry Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpYQNExwthl0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Does 802.11b use a lot of resources?
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 01:26:45AM -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: On Friday 25 February 2005 12:06 am, Christopher Kelley wrote: Have I tried too hard to squeeze usability out of an old computer? I have a Pentium-166 that has been a faithful router firewall (FreeBSD 5.3 and pf) for a couple years now. It has no trouble with the 3 to 4 Mbps I get from my broadband connection, at least not with ethernet. I wanted wireless, so I could use my laptop around the house. I dutifully read the section in the manual about setting up FreeBSD as an access point. I'm using a Netgear MA311 802.11b card (Prism 2.5 chipset). And it does work, except it's very slow. Now I know that I can only expect about 50% of the rated speed with wireless, but I figured even if I got only 4Mbps, I'd be fine. But I get less than 1Mbps. I've updated the firmware, added a signal booster and hi-gain antenna, and I have excellent signal strength throughout my house. So my question is, is there more overhead with wireless than with ethernet? TOP doesn't seem to show that I'm taxing it too hard, idle never goes below about 70% with polling enabled (Hz=1000), and never below about 80% with polling disabled. Am I expecting too much out of an old Pentium-166? My experience is that: 1) 50% throughput is probably the best you should expect. I generally plan on 3-4 Mbps for an 11 Mbps 802.11b card. 2) Using 128-bit encryption (WEP) will significantly slow down some (many?) cards. The WEP processing is done on the card (I think), and they simply don't have hefty processors. If you use 128-bit WEP, try 64-bit WEP and see if that speeds things up. 64 bit WEP is adequate to keep out casual snoopers, and 128 bit is not adequate to keep out a serious attacker, so the difference in security may not be as important as some believe. 64-bit WEP is also known as 40-bit, and similarly for 128-bit WEP. Actually, what I recommend for home you, if you have the time, is IPSEC. Much more secure than WEP and it's all done on the main cpu so it should slow the wifi down as much. There's a good article on freebsddiary.org I believe. 3) Turning on power management seriously slows things down for me, to well below 1 Mbps. Do a wicontrol and make sure Power Mgmt is 0. - Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Received mail timestamp is off by 7 hours
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 02:22:40AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 03:36:41 -0800 Loren M. Lang wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 12:58:17AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 03:10:12 -0700 Pat Maddox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright, I got it all working now. Not sure how to change the time zone with config files, so I just used sysinstall to change it to MST (time zone is arbitrary, but since this is the zone I live in, it's convenient for me). Then I used ntpdate to sync it, and it's working well now. Thanks for pointing that out to me. I just thought that CET was central time :) Yes sysinstall's as good a way as any, it'll set your timezone and also let you choose between running with a UTC or local time CMOS clock. Or you can manually tun tzsetup(8) and create (or not) /etc/wall_cmos_clock .. see adjkerntz(8) Take little notice of people opining that you must or even should run CMOS UTC time; that's entirely up to you. I've always preferred local time CMOS clocks personally; sysinstall creates /etc/wall_cmos_clock and cron runs 'adjkerntz -a' halfhourly at times when daylight savings time might come or go in your zone, and that's always worked fine here. The reason using UTC for the cmos clock is that it never changes like US daylight savings does. Now if your timezone doesn't ever need to be pushed forward or backwards then it won't be a problem, but otherwise evertime the system boots up, it has to determine if the cmos time is correct or needs to be adjusted. A UTC time will always be correct and can be turned exactly into the correct time at the moment. I think that if FreeBSD crashed just after it booted up and adjusted the hour forward, then on the next reboot, it would adjust it another hour forward. In general, it is just harder to manage. Even worse would be my Quad boot system with Gentoo Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD. If I used local time for my cmos clock then every daylight savings change, each os would adjust the clock independently and I'd be 3 hours off. I don't believe that's correct Loren, at least, not for FreeBSD anyway. Well, I haven't looked into all the details of how FreeBSD does this, but I gaurentee that there is a point where FreeBSD can crash and the clock could be knocked off an hour which wouldn't happen if it's running UTC. Though this window could just be a matter of seconds, I'm not sure. Also multi-booting multiple OS's with it set to local time will always be a problem unless you set only one os to update the clock, and even then, while running the other oses, the update will never happen until you boot into the os which does it. But, in general, it is just a little bit less reliable using local to UTC unless you are not affected by any daylight savings changes like Arizona in the US or, I'm sure, many other places around the world. snip -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PR 67260
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 05:50:21PM -0800, Vadym Chepkov wrote: All, The problem i386/67260 still does exist in FreeBSD 5.3. Did anybody find a workaround or possibly a fix? As most people don't seem to have this bug, it would be helpful if you provided us with some more information like type of system, hardware used, amount of ram, etc. Maybe you should even try adding that to the online bug report. Thank you. Vadym Chepkov ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpsMd02UhmzQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Does 802.11b use a lot of resources?
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 09:06:51PM -0800, Christopher Kelley wrote: Have I tried too hard to squeeze usability out of an old computer? I have a Pentium-166 that has been a faithful router firewall (FreeBSD 5.3 and pf) for a couple years now. It has no trouble with the 3 to 4 Mbps I get from my broadband connection, at least not with ethernet. I wanted wireless, so I could use my laptop around the house. I dutifully read the section in the manual about setting up FreeBSD as an access point. I'm using a Netgear MA311 802.11b card (Prism 2.5 chipset). And it does work, except it's very slow. Now I know that I can only expect about 50% of the rated speed with wireless, but I I thought it was more like only 10% of the rated bandwidth. figured even if I got only 4Mbps, I'd be fine. But I get less than 1Mbps. I've updated the firmware, added a signal booster and hi-gain antenna, and I have excellent signal strength throughout my house. So my question is, is there more overhead with wireless than with ethernet? TOP doesn't seem to show that I'm taxing it too hard, idle never goes below about 70% with polling enabled (Hz=1000), and never below about 80% with polling disabled. Am I expecting too much out of an old Pentium-166? Thanks for your help. Christopher ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 12:13:08PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:58:02AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Yes - there's some random testing suites on the Internet, find a few and compile them. (ENT for example) Run them repeatedly and see what happens. Part of the problem is that BY DEFAULT the random device DOES NOT look at interrupts. See the man page for rndcontrol. Presumably the system admin of the system knows this and looks at his dmesg output to see which irq's are assigned to network cards and hard disks (which are fairly good sources of randomness) and sets the random device to use these. In practice this isn't something mentioned in the install docs so it is very unlikely many people know. Another strange thing is that /dev/random should block when it runs out of entropy - it doesen't seem to do so, however. And the device doesen't seem to gain entropy that quickly. No, it should not block because it's not defined to block and that would be a bad interface anyway. It does return as many bytes as it can, and if the application wants more entropy than given then it can either poll, or fall back to alternative mechanisms as it sees fit (blocking would prevent this). I would expect it to behave like other descriptors where by default it should block unless the O_NONBLOCK flag it set in which it would return immediately with an error message EAGAIN. Then an app designer can choose which he wants. But /dev/random should not just always return some data even if there's not enough entropy in the pool. That's /dev/urandom's job. Anyway, all your concerns are moot for 5.x. Kris -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:58:02AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Loren M. Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:40 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Kris Kennaway; Rob; FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg? On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:11:24AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 2:58 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Rob; FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg? On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:32:26AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Instead, they are part of the kernel itself. All the /dev files are, /dev/random, /dev/ad0 and so on, are simple files that take up only a few bytes of space. They are convenient hook points to use to get to these devices. That is, when a program accesses /dev/random, it isn't actually opening that file. Instead, the kernel intercepts that call and supplies the program opening that device with the output of the actual device. This is why these device files are created with the mknod utility, rather than just copying a file to /dev/random - since doing that is accessing the device, not creating the device file. So, deleting these /dev devices saves you practically no space at all, and does not in fact delete the devices - it only deletes the access point to them. The devices are still there in the kernel. No, in 5.x the device nodes are created automatically by devfs and only appear in /dev by default if support is enabled in the kernel. Ah, yes I wasn't paying attention, he did say 5. I stopped paying attention after reading that he was wanting to remove /dev/random. As the original poster discussed, /dev/io, /dev/mem and /dev/random are optional components of the 5.x kernel, although as I replied, the situations in which one would not want to include them are limited. Actually, recompiling openssl to use a prng daemon instead of the random device will probably improve your ssh security - unless they have greatly improved the entropy generation in the random device in 5.X Is the /dev/random on FreeBSD really this bad? Yes - there's some random testing suites on the Internet, find a few and compile them. (ENT for example) Run them repeatedly and see what happens. Part of the problem is that BY DEFAULT the random device DOES NOT look at interrupts. See the man page for rndcontrol. Presumably the system admin of the system knows this and looks at his dmesg output to see which irq's are assigned to network cards and hard disks (which are fairly good sources of randomness) and sets the random device to use these. In practice this isn't something mentioned in the install docs so it is very unlikely many people know. I don't seem to have rndcontrol on 5.3, is that an old command? Another strange thing is that /dev/random should block when it runs out of entropy - it doesen't seem to do so, however. And the device doesen't seem to gain entropy that quickly. Then how is /dev/random differ from /dev/urandom? I thought it should be better since it can gather entropy from all over the kernel like interrupts. I'm pretty sure I read that linuxes /dev/random was far supieror to prng and I'd expect FreeBSD to be the same unless someone was lazy in implementing it or there is some major security hole in it. The FreeBSD random device is a port of the same Linux code. I'm pretty sure that the linux code is GPLed, and I'd expect that FreeBSD uses a BSD version. Are they actually from the same code? Interestingly enough, Sun's Solaris x86 random driver sucks too in the same way, runs out of entropy quickly and doesen't recharge that rapidly. There's a couple people who have written prngs which they claim are far superior to the random devices. Do a search and you will run across them. Every doc I've heard of using prng on linux always suggests that the native entropy source is better? Is this because the linux version has better hooks in the kernel and always uses interrupts as a source? An excellent random device would be a portable fm radio tuned to in between stations and feeding the mic input of a soundcard. That's what you use when you don't want NSA's supercomputers breaking your keys. ;-) But of course if you pulled entropy out of that too fast, you would run into the speed limitations of the D/A converter in the soundcard input. Ted -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA
Re: Can /etc/rc.conf be replaced with a symlink?
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 07:55:18AM -0500, Clay wrote: I realized what the problem mostly likely was after submitting the question. I do believe that the mount point where I am wanting to have rc.conf located is not yet available when the file is read. Is there a way to have this FS mounted prior to rc.conf being read? Could I maybe place this mount point above the root in fstab? I will give it try when I have time later today. No. The process FreeBSD uses to boot is as follows: 1. Load kernel from disk or other media 2. Kernel initializes various hardware and subsystems. 3. Kernel mounts root file system. 4. Kernel invoked init 5. Init runs /etc/rc and waits for it to complete 6. /etc/rc reads /etc/rc.conf 7. /etc/rc runs various scripts in /etc/rc.d in a specified order 8. Various scripts run including /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal 9. Init loads gettys specified in /etc/ttys and goes into it's main loop The order in fstab doesn't matter, the kernel only knows enough to mount the root fs, and the scripts in /etc/rc.d mount all the other filesystems, but by then, rc.conf has already been read or attempted to be read. You could hack /etc/rc to mount another fs, but I would strongly recommend against it. Thanks, -Clay ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: support for multiple gre tunnel pass-through
On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 11:38:15AM -0300, emilio wrote: Hi at all the list I got the latest (5.3) free-bsd edition and need to know if there's support for gre protocol into multiple connections We got many clients for vpn into the office acessing a remote server and passing through the firewall who has two interfaces(one public and one internal) in a round-trip way meaning that the packet has to do natd in the go and in the back way to access the 10.x.x.x internal network I'm a little worried because we used debian with the kernel 2.4.26 and iptables 1.2.11 and needed to do many adjusts and recompiles until it came to work finally.with the patch-o-matic added. So the question is if in free-bsd and the related ipfw is the same headache Are you simply asking if you can have multiple gre tunnel from a freebsd box? Then yes, freebsd works great for that. I've had no trouble. And IPSEC on top of that isn't much more difficult. Of course i'm a newbie hehehe May you have a look at this problem i'd be grateful... thanks very very much Emilio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How would you install all Gnome ports?
On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 05:32:34PM -0600, Chris wrote: Chris Hodgins wrote: Chris wrote: Chris Hodgins wrote: Chris wrote: Is there an all inclusive command to install all Gnome ports from within the ports tree? Not everything but enough to get you started: /usr/ports/x11/gnome2$ cat pkg-descr GNU Network Object Model Environment This metaport installs the entire GNOME 2 desktop, including the the most common user applications. Other popular GNOME applications can be installed from the other GNOME 2 metaports: * x11/gnome2-fifth-toe * x11/gnome2-power-tools * editors/gnome2-office * devel/gnome2-hacker-tools WWW: http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ Perfect - this is exactly what I wanted. I'm a KDE munkie myself, but I wanted to dabble w/Gnome. Thank you Chris H. I would also highly recommend Xfce4.2. :) Chris I would - but I'm not into intense modification to my wm. A few teaks here and there ore fine, but if I need to learn to setup a decent wm, then it sorta defeats the purpose. I don't think it neccessarily defeats the purpose, the default settings usually work just fine in my experience. But I've found that some other windows manager like fvwm2 offer much more flexibility in setting them up than anything kde or gnome's metacity offer. And best of all, once you have it tweaked perfectly, then all I you have to do is copy a text file around. For fvwm2, thats .fvwm2rc. Every system I use KDE on I have to spend quite a while customizing it to fit me. And even then I always miss certain shortcuts that I use a lot. Now if I had to start from scratch writing my .fvwm2rc, then I probably never would have, but luckily a good default one is provided. I love BSD under a wm, but I don't have the luxury of spending hours to days makeing a kick-ass looking environment. That's just me tho - I have seen what other can do - I lack the creative-eye to do that fancy stuff. -- Best regards, Chris Go where the money is. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.3 + nvidia GeForce 6600 GT + amd64
On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 07:58:59PM -0800, Ward Willats wrote: Hello Everyone. I just bought me a spiffy new amd64 box with an nvidia GeForce 6600 card. I am running Freebsd 5.3/amd64 and xorg. Though I love the games, my most important need for this machine is to do software development -- so I don't need the 3D stuff at all right now. I tried the OSS nvidia driver -- it didn't detect the screen. The nvidia-driver port does not work on amd64 (I think I remember it complaining...) The nvidia site has 64 bit binaries for Linux, but if there is a magic way to wrap them for use in FreeBSD I don't know what it is. Anyway, the Vesa driver would be good enough for my needs, and indeed, it easily drives the card to various resolutions, but all the built-in modes are with a 60hz refresh rate and the flicker drives me nuts. You could try using xrandr to change the refresh rate. The other option might be to modify the monitor section in ur xorg.conf file with VertRefresh, I believe, to set a refresh range starting just above 60hz. Guess I can concoct a custom modeline to raise the refresh rate with the vesa driver, but that seems like a pretty primitive way to go here in THE FUTURE. So thought I'd ask if you folks had any suggestions. Thanks, -- Ward ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Received mail timestamp is off by 7 hours
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 12:58:17AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 03:10:12 -0700 Pat Maddox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright, I got it all working now. Not sure how to change the time zone with config files, so I just used sysinstall to change it to MST (time zone is arbitrary, but since this is the zone I live in, it's convenient for me). Then I used ntpdate to sync it, and it's working well now. Thanks for pointing that out to me. I just thought that CET was central time :) Yes sysinstall's as good a way as any, it'll set your timezone and also let you choose between running with a UTC or local time CMOS clock. Or you can manually tun tzsetup(8) and create (or not) /etc/wall_cmos_clock .. see adjkerntz(8) Take little notice of people opining that you must or even should run CMOS UTC time; that's entirely up to you. I've always preferred local time CMOS clocks personally; sysinstall creates /etc/wall_cmos_clock and cron runs 'adjkerntz -a' halfhourly at times when daylight savings time might come or go in your zone, and that's always worked fine here. The reason using UTC for the cmos clock is that it never changes like US daylight savings does. Now if your timezone doesn't ever need to be pushed forward or backwards then it won't be a problem, but otherwise evertime the system boots up, it has to determine if the cmos time is correct or needs to be adjusted. A UTC time will always be correct and can be turned exactly into the correct time at the moment. I think that if FreeBSD crashed just after it booted up and adjusted the hour forward, then on the next reboot, it would adjust it another hour forward. In general, it is just harder to manage. Even worse would be my Quad boot system with Gentoo Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD. If I used local time for my cmos clock then every daylight savings change, each os would adjust the clock independently and I'd be 3 hours off. The only thing to watch running wall_cmos_clock is that if you boot to single user mode, before /etc/rc has run 'adjkerntz -i' the system will assume CMOS is UTC, so any files then modified show timestamps in UTC (discovered the hard way in Jan 2000 on a box with a broken y2k BIOS :) Cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:11:24AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 2:58 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Rob; FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg? On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:32:26AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Instead, they are part of the kernel itself. All the /dev files are, /dev/random, /dev/ad0 and so on, are simple files that take up only a few bytes of space. They are convenient hook points to use to get to these devices. That is, when a program accesses /dev/random, it isn't actually opening that file. Instead, the kernel intercepts that call and supplies the program opening that device with the output of the actual device. This is why these device files are created with the mknod utility, rather than just copying a file to /dev/random - since doing that is accessing the device, not creating the device file. So, deleting these /dev devices saves you practically no space at all, and does not in fact delete the devices - it only deletes the access point to them. The devices are still there in the kernel. No, in 5.x the device nodes are created automatically by devfs and only appear in /dev by default if support is enabled in the kernel. Ah, yes I wasn't paying attention, he did say 5. I stopped paying attention after reading that he was wanting to remove /dev/random. As the original poster discussed, /dev/io, /dev/mem and /dev/random are optional components of the 5.x kernel, although as I replied, the situations in which one would not want to include them are limited. Actually, recompiling openssl to use a prng daemon instead of the random device will probably improve your ssh security - unless they have greatly improved the entropy generation in the random device in 5.X Is the /dev/random on FreeBSD really this bad? I thought it should be better since it can gather entropy from all over the kernel like interrupts. I'm pretty sure I read that linuxes /dev/random was far supieror to prng and I'd expect FreeBSD to be the same unless someone was lazy in implementing it or there is some major security hole in it. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I killed my system with grep
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:42:48PM -0500, Parv wrote:
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Loren M. Lang thusly...
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 12:14:04PM +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote:
I am running a FreeBSD 5.3 system with 64MB RAM and 150 MB swap.
Yesterday I entered the command:
# grep -R something /
You probably hit a file under /dev/ and caused grep to hang. It's
possible that as root, certain device files might hang the system,
but nothing comes to mind at the moment unless /dev/io could do
it. Also, think about what happens when grep hit's /dev/zero. It
will never finish.
Would using -I option (not search text-like files) help to avoid
above described hang ups in /dev?
No, it still searches all files, it just doesn't print the usual line
that it matched, only whether there was success or not. You really just
need to make sure grep never goes into /dev. Since your running 5.x,
/dev is it's own filesystem of a unique type, so the following command
will run grep on only filesystems of type ufs, which won't include
network filesystems, or /dev:
find / -fstype ufs -exec grep -H something {} \;
- Parv
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Re: Installation instructions for Firefox somewhere?
On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 03:48:21PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Chris writes: If you don't have the ports tree (/usr/ports) on the box, put it there. I don't have 300 MB to spare, particularly for something that I will use so rarely. Is there no machine you can nfs mount a ports tree from? I do it all the time and set the following environment variables in bash: export DISTDIR=$HOME/ports/distfiles export PACKAGES=$HOME/ports/packages export WRKDIRPREFIX=$HOME/ports/work export PORTS_DBDIR=$HOME/ports Then I have a shared and up-to-date ports tree for all my machines. If I just want to install packages then I use: portupgrade -R -PP www/firefox You should also be able to browse the ftp site by hand or check out freshports.org and get the package that way too, but it doesn't handle dependencies as nicely. Also, if your trying to install the linux version, then make sure linux-XFree86-libs is installed as well as some version of linux_base. What's wrong with getting the index from the FTP site when I run sysinstall? Seems to me that it would guarantee that the ports are always up to date. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 05:11:37PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Loren M. Lang writes: Do you mean install a 1440k floppy image onto a disk or just copy a file smaller than 1440k onto the msdos fs of an already formatted floppy. Specifically, I was trying to generate an installation boot floppy for FreeBSD, in order to install it on my other machine (which is too old to boot from CD). If you were using one of the pre-fabbed floppy images provided by freebsd like kern.flp then you would want to write it raw to disk, not mount it, and this is forbidden at securelevel 3. The latter should be ok even at securelevel 3, but the former can't because that would mean open /dev/fd0 for writing other than a mount. I got the error just trying to mount the diskette. I tried all different formats of the mount and mount_msdosfs commands and they all either generated a syntax error or told me that the operation was not permitted. I don't know why this is, it should still be possible, especially since you can mount cdroms. /dev/fd0 is read/write by root right? And the disk already had a formatted filesystem on it before you tried mounting it? -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Directory not empty
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:29:17AM +0800, T.F. Cheng wrote: man, you are right, I now recall there was a crash during the last portupgrade. And there is /dev/ad0s1f: UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. in my /var/log. Guess the mystery is solved. Then why do I have to reboot first then run bgfsck? Can I run this myself without rebooting? kill -TERM 1 will send your system into single user mode without rebooting. Assuming you haven't done system like increase the securelevel, you should be able to fsck the drive from here. I believe just typing exit will go back for multi-user mode. thanks! --- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?g?D?G In the last episode (Feb 25), T.F. Cheng said: yeah, it's weird. I found that I can rename it (to tmp) then I tried to del it: rm -fr tmp rm: tmp/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/doc: Directory not empty rm: tmp/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/src: Directory not empty Do you use softupdates, and did your system happen to crash after a portupgrade? I bet if you cd into tmp/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/doc and run ls -la, you'll see something like: $ ls -la total 2 drwx-- 4 dan dan 512 Feb 22 11:00 ./ drwxr-xr-x 3 dan dan 512 Feb 22 11:00 ../ The . entry should have 2 links in an empty directory (one here, and one in the parent directory). That's caused be a failed background fsck, which is supposed to reset bad link counts after a crash. If you check /var/log/messages, you might see something like this: PARTIALLY TRUNCATED INODE I=316179 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. Try rebooting and letting the bgfsck run again, or boot into single-user mode and run fsck -p on the filesystem. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Best Regards, Tsu-Fan Cheng _ Do You Yahoo!? ?n?O?K?O?? @yahoo.com ?q?l?l?? @ http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I killed my system with grep
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 12:14:04PM +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote: Hello FreeBSD friends: I am running a FreeBSD 5.3 system with 64MB RAM and 150 MB swap. Yesterday I entered the command: # grep -R something / Running a grep on an entire system as root is a bad idea. At least limit to certain filesystems. You probably hit a file under /dev/ and caused grep to hang. It's possible that as root, certain device files might hang the system, but nothing comes to mind at the moment unless /dev/io could do it. Also, think about what happens when grep hit's /dev/zero. It will never finish. and after a while, my system did not respond. I do not remember the exact messages as I am on a winbugs at the University. The error was about swapping. I could switch among terminals but the system was dead. I needed to reboot. I rebooted and tried again watching top output and I could see as swap usage was incresing very quickly until it ran out of swap space and the swap pager failed. Was my sytem dead? or, is it possible to recover from that state without rebooting? How is it possible that a simple command like this could auto-kill the machine? What is the recomended fix for this?: a- Asigning more swap. b- Not executing that command anymore. Thank you very much for your advices and help. Ramiro ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: extract iso image
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 09:14:25AM +0800, T.F. Cheng wrote: hi, I am not sure if I am doing the right thing. I want to extract an downloaded isoimage by first mounting it. I tried: mount -t iso9660 -o loop image.iso /mnt but turns out I don't have mount_iso9660 under /sbin, only mount_cd9660. Is there any other way to do this? I am running freebsd5.3/i386. Thanks! Linux calls it iso9660, FreeBSD calls is cd9660, same thing. The freebsd command that does the same thing is as follows: mount -t cd9660 /dev/`mdconfig -a -t image.iso` /mnt = Best Regards, Tsu-Fan Cheng _ Do You Yahoo!? ?n?O?K?O?? @yahoo.com ?q?l?l?? @ http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: samba as wins-server
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 09:24:28AM +0100, Florian Hengstberger wrote: Hi! I'm working in an office with several win hosts of all flavours (98,2000,eXPerience). Unfortunatly the resolution of computers takes sometimes up to half an hour (approx.) until they are accessible after booting up. In near future I'll have the chance to switch to FreeBSD with my box (at least, I hope so). I'll install samba for win access to my machine. Reading some documentation I've found out that samba can also act as a wins-server. Will this enhance the latency of netbios resolution or will it corrupt it? Do you mean that the resolution of a name to ip address takes a half an hour or just that machines don't appear on the network for half an hour. There are two parts to it. One machine acts as a browse master and keeps a list of names of all machines in it's workgroup. There is an election process that happens to determine who the master is. When a machine boots up it needs to alert the master that it exists, but that can take a while sometimes with windows. The second part is name to ip resolution, this has nothing to do with the browse master. Two type of name resolution are broadcast and wins. Wins is like a dns server where all boxes register their name and ip address with. Broadcast is more like arp resolution only name to ip instead of ip to hw address. Both both broadcast and wins usually work immediately. The only downfall to broadcast is it only works when every computer is on the same subnet. Most problems with computers showing up is which the browse master/clients registering, not name resolution. And even before the browse master knows about the client, you can still access it by typing in the name by hand, just not by going to network neighbor hood and looking for it. Is there a way to speed up this process with samba, am I writing complete nonsense? Tell me if this is true. Yours, Florian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Compat - LIBSTDC++.SO.5 - Call Of Duty
On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 09:24:19AM -0700, Nick Pavlica wrote: All, I'm trying to get the Call of Duty Dedicated server running on FreeBSD 5.3. To do get an error when I run the daemon which is caused by issue below. Are there compatibility libs in the ports collection? If not should I use the libs from this link? If so where to I put them? You need a newer version of linux_base. I recommend linux_base-rh9. After upgrading that, you'll probably need to install linux-XFree86-libs as they are no longer a part of linux_base. Thanks! --Nick - IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH LIBSTDC++.SO.5 ... If you are reading this, it's probably because you tried to start your Linux server and saw this message: ./coduo_lnxded: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory COD:UO is a C++ program built with gcc 3.2.3, which means it needs a system library specific to gcc 3.2. Older Linux systems won't have this installed, and we're starting to see newer Linux distributions that don't have this either, since they are supplying an incompatible gcc 3.4 version. The good news is that you can drop the needed library into your system without breaking anything else. Here is the library you need, if your Linux distribution doesn't supply it: http://icculus.org/updates/cod/gcc3-libs.tar.bz2 You want to unpack that somewhere that the dynamic linker will see it (if you are sure it won't overwrite any files, you can even use /lib). --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB drive - crypto filesystem options?
On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 08:40:37PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote: Hey folks. I have just become the proud owner of a fancy new 1GB USB 2.0 drive; one of those cool new gadgets no bigger than my pinky that holds 1 Billion bytes of data. Naturally, I can't wait to play with it :) Well, I know that USB 2.0 support is kinda sketchy, and I've already decided it's not stable on the ICH5 USB controller that comes with the Dell Dimension 8300. Regardless, I have confirmed that I can get the little gadget mounted (comes pre-formatted with an MSDos filesystem) without the slightest hangup. Yay me. So, now what I want to do is see what kind of filesystem options I have with this little gem. Ideally, I would like to get an encrypted filesystem that requires a password to mount it. Of course, I've checked the ports, but I don't know much about this area, and I don't know if I'm even using the right search keys. A little googling revealed a great article at The FreeBSD Diary (http://www.freebsddiary.org/encrypted-fs.php) that discusses cfs. Sounds cool, move to the top of the list - ok, it's the only thing on the list right now. That's where you folks come in. Has anyone had any experience actually using a crypto filesystem on a USB drive? What utilities are available for this? And more importantly, what have your experiences been? I, personally, have found that just using gpg to encrypt important files on my memory stick as gpg runs on multiple oses: bsd, win, linux, max. I may also place my encrypted private key on it along with executables on it for windows since linux/bsd propably already have it installed. Then I can read the files on any system with just a passphrase. TIA Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint = C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 Ninety-Ninety Rule of Project Schedules: The first ninety percent of the task takes ninety percent of the time, and the last ten percent takes the other ninety percent. -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 08:39:24PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes: Why would you want to mount an MSDOS floppy on a server? In order to copy a raw file image to the floppy. Do you mean install a 1440k floppy image onto a disk or just copy a file smaller than 1440k onto the msdos fs of an already formatted floppy. The latter should be ok even at securelevel 3, but the former can't because that would mean open /dev/fd0 for writing other than a mount. That reduces the security and stability of your server Not really. See above. The intent is not to leave the floppy permanently mounted; I only needed to copy a raw diskette image to the floppy (a boot floppy for FreeBSD, as it happens). As it happens, I found a way to do it under Windows, so the problem is solved. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Racoon without compression
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 06:03:17PM -0500, Christopher Rued wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to set up a VPN connection to a NetScreen VPN using racoon. I configured all of the settings (I think) to match those specified on the NetScreen, except for compression_algorithm. The only option for compression_algorithm given to me by racoon is deflate. The NetScreen VPN is configured with Compression: None. Am I out of luck here? No, compression is not needed for IPSec. The only compression algorithm racoon supports is defate, but that doesn't mean it won't run without compression. The settings in /etc/ipsec.conf are what tell FreeBSD's IPSec to use or not use compression. ESP is an encryption layer that you can enable in ipsec.conf and IPComp is a compression layer, if you only setup ESP then no compression takes place. Please be sure to inclue me on any replies, as I am not subscibed to the list. TIA --Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: c++
On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 04:38:32PM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 16:15:43 +0100, Daniel S. Haischt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens, I would suggest to post such questions to gtk-list@gnome.org, because IIRC you are trying to code a GTK app ... Additionally I would suggest to learn C/C++ first to get a better understanding of the whole language structure. Or at least please join the c# IRC channel at irc.freenode.net to ask such questions, it's quite annoying to see them on a list which is dedicated to an UNIX OS. I did that but they give me the get book and ask somebody els answer. That seems to be a good response based off of what your current level of programmings skills seem to be. There are lots of good books on c/c++ that will be much more help to you than this list will be. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unexpected resolver behavior
On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 10:04:22PM -0600, Jamie Ostrowski wrote: I'm running 4.10-p5 on my workstation at home, and I can't understand why I cannot get www.foo.com to resolve to an IP I am specifying in /etc/hosts (I want to over-ride the IP returned by the nameserver I query by default). in /etc/hosts: 199.xx.xx.24 www.foo.com. Remove the . at the end of com. Finishing domain names with a period like that is only used in bind's zone files, nowhere else. in /etc/host.conf: # $FreeBSD: src/etc/host.conf,v 1.6 1999/08/27 23:23:41 peter Exp $ # First try the /etc/hosts file /etc/hosts # Now try the nameserver next. bind # If you have YP/NIS configured, uncom (I have no nsswitch.conf file in /etc) But when I try to resolve www.foo.com from the command line, I am getting the IP address from the nameserver from the outside world rather than the IP from /etc/hosts. I am not running a local named on this machine, either. Any ideas? - Jamie The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (71% of Full) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring PF
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 09:32:25PM -0700, Pat Maddox wrote: I want to install a firewall on my system. First of all, is PF the one I should be using? It seems to get the most recommendations. I don't actually seem to have any problems configuring it - I just have some problems testing the configuration. I can ssh to the box, and I can access port 80...but I'd like to be able to just scan it to quickly see what's up. When PF is disabled, I can nmap it in about 9 seconds. When I turn it on, it takes over 3 minutes to do. These machines are on the same network, so the connection is obviously fast. This is a good thing, IMHO. Think about all those script kiddies sitting out there looking for a nice, juicy server to compromise. If it takes them 3 minutes to port scan your machine, they'll probably cancel it before it's finished and move on. I believe what's happening is that all ports that aren't open are configured to drop packets instead of reject them like is default. Reject means send back an error message saying port is closed where dropping just ignores it. The port scanner sends out a request and waits for a response, either Hello, or Sorry, I'm closed. It will wait quite a while before it decides that nothings there. Are there any good, pretty simple guides on setting up PF? I'm having a tough time understanding what the rulesets all mean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: probably a simple problem with permissions
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 11:53:57PM -0500, David Wassman wrote: I am probably understanding this problem incorrectly meaning there is a simple explanation that is escaping me. My /dev/cd0 is owned by root so I have tried to change both the owner and the group so I can use it as a user. I have tried: chmod 777 /dev/cd0 chmod -R 777 /dev/cd0 chgrp 777 /dev/cd0 It should at best be 666, and probably only 644 since cds are read-only. I don't know if a cd burner needs to be 666 for ordinary users to burn though. device files, AFAIK, have no use for execute permissions. And I don't think 777 is a valid group name unless you decided to add it for some reason. If your cdrom device is cd0 then add perm cd0 0644 to /etc/devfs.conf The problem is that when I reboot the system the old permissions return and I have to su and change the permissions back. How do I make these changes permanent? There is probably a security reason for this but it is very inconvenient on a desktop station. Any help would be appreciated. I am running 5.3. David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SSH-agent setting
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 06:23:27PM +0100, kilim wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:51:41AM -0500, Clayton Scott Kern wrote: Why not use keychain and put it in the appropriate rc file (.bashrc, cshrc, etc.), then you'll be connected to the agent automatically. My bad. Please disregard my previous email. I apologise ! Your suggestion is great. What I didn't realise is that keychain is a great tool which resides in /usr/ports/security/keychain and it does this: allowing you to easily have one long-running ssh-agent process per system, rather than per login session. Actually, it's simpler than that. Just add the following lines to your .profile: export SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/user.agent ssh-add -L /dev/null 21 if [ $? -ge 2 ]; then ssh-agent -a $SSH_AUTH_SOCK /dev/null 21 fi Then you'll just need to run ssh-add once after every reboot to re-add the key, but the ssh-agent will be accessible from every terminal, X11 session, ssh login, etc. with your username. as its web site states: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain/index.xml Thank you Clayton ! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't reboot after messing up my rc.conf file
On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 12:44:55AM -0800, Sandy Rutherford wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:02:02 -0600, Jamie Novak [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I may have missed something from the thread before I joined the list, but is there any reason you can't just mount the filesystems and use vi as you're used to? If you're getting far enough in the boot process to get an opportunity to interact with a shell, you should just be able to mount -a and vi whatever. (Or, if you want to play it safe (or if the system wasn't cleanly shutdown before), fsck and then mount -a) This should work fine. Although, depending on where he is in the boot process, / may be mounted read-only. Do `mount -uw /' to make it read-write. The lesson here is that when editing any file that is even remotely connected to the boot process, _make_a_backup_copy_. You can then simply mv the backup copy back into place should you mess up. Actually, Absolute BSD has a handy suggestion about using rcs for all important files in /etc/. Maybe you should try looking into that. Sandy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the status of gvinum in FreeBSD 5.3?
On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 04:57:33PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: I was wondering about the status of gvinum in 5.3. I seem to remember that there were a lot of problems with gvinum in 5.3, but searching around, I can't seem to find anything that says for sure one way or the other. I'm just trying to seperate the FUD from the reality. Is there anywhere that has the status? Anyone using gvinum that can say how reliable it is or isn't? I understand that there are GEOM classes available that have some of the functionality of vinum that I could use instead, but there are two reasons that these aren't an option for me. 1) I'm wanting to migrate 4.X machines with existing vinum volumes to 5, and I'd rather not dump/restore. FreeBSD 5.x also has the original vinum implementation plus gvinum so it should be possible to use that instead of needing to dump/restore. Though I think that there are a couple of limitations like no swap on the original vinum do to the addition of GEOM. 2) There is at least one feature that vinum has that I don't see in any GEOM class, that I'm using. That is the ability to add subdisks and use growfs to enlarge filesystems without having to dump/restore. I think that either geom_ccd or geom_concat will allow you to concat more drives in and then use growfs to expand the fs. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh key authentication
On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 11:27:03AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote: i've followed the howto exactly and it still doesn't work. i don't know wtf i'm doing wrong. here is the output i get in verbose mode snip Password: the files i have in the local host ls -l /home/timothy/.ssh/ total 6 -rw--- 1 timothy wheel 672 Feb 19 11:06 id_dsa -rw-r--r-- 1 timothy wheel 621 Feb 19 11:06 id_dsa.pub -rw-r--r-- 1 timothy wheel 614 Feb 19 11:21 known_hosts the files i have in the remote host ls -l total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 timothy wheel 241 Feb 18 22:44 authorised_keys -rw-r--r-- 1 timothy wheel 621 Feb 19 11:12 authorised_keys2 It looks like you copied id_dsa.pub to authorized_keys2. On recent versions of ssh, all public authorized keys are stored in authorized_keys. Do: cat authorized_keys2 authorized_keys rm authorized_keys2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ping question
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 08:56:49AM -0800, ann kok wrote: Hi Loren Thank you for your mail again For the monitor sofeware iptraf , I can't get it in the port. Why freebsd doesn't support it! I tried to install in freebsd from the tarball and got an error messages! Well, the program seems to be heavily based on the low-level network interface that linux uses and will require a little bit of effort to port to freebsd. I use it on one of my linux routers. I don't think I have the time at the moment to port it, but maybe this program might be interesting enough to someone else on this list for them to take the time. I can update you if I am able to get anything working if you want. I need sth to prove the traffic to those routers from outside. Do you have experience the max traffic freebsd can support? It seems to support max 230M only! If you have a computer on both sides of the router then you can run a timed test to see how fast the traffic is. My ISP runs redhat and gave me a shell account to use. The following can be a useful test: time ssh remote-system dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=10 /dev/null That will tell you the time to send 10 megs of data from a remote computer to the one your running it on. Make sure you read the real time, not user or system. This doesn't take into account other traffic at the same time, but if it's just occasional webpage access, it may not be a big deal. Now this may not be too accurate, I don't know how much bigger the data gets by doing encryption, so a ftp transfer would probably be better. Thank you --- Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 11:21:03AM -0800, ann kok wrote: Hi all Thank you very much for your help The freebsd router is behind the cisco router. Do you have any experience to determine the traffic is in freebsd and cisco from outside? Can traceroute give figure to prove it? I'm not quite sure if I understand what you're asking, but if you want to see what traffic is going into/out of/through them, tcpdump is a good command-line based packet sniffer and ethereal is it's gui cousin. You can even use tcpdump to capture data and later view it on a different computer with ethereal. iptraf will show you general usage of the traffic crossing your router. If your asking to see what path the traffic is taking from point A to point B, then traceroute is your best friend. Please help Thank you again --- Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 08:50:32AM -0800, ann kok wrote: Hi all I ping from redhat to cisco router and freebsd router but I don't understand ttl (time to live) Cisco router has ttl=251 and freebsd router has 58 Does it set by the router itself? Can I change it in freebsd? FreeBSD's default ttl, I believe, is 64, Cisco's is probably 255. As long as the number of hops neccessary to get to a certain computer is never more than 64, there's nothing wrong with it. The highest I've seen is about 30 and the Internet is going to have to grow a bit, I think, before it's an issue. Thank you 64 bytes from 212.223.x.193: icmp_seq=1151 ttl=251 time=100 ms 64 bytes from 212.223.x.193: icmp_seq=1152 ttl=251 time=103 ms 64 bytes from 212.223.x.193: icmp_seq=1153 ttl=251 time=104 ms 64 bytes from 212.223.x.193: icmp_seq=1154 ttl=251 time=106 ms 64 bytes from 212.x.254.4: icmp_seq=1182 ttl=58 time=105 ms 64 bytes from 212.x.254.4: icmp_seq=1183 ttl=58 time=105 ms 64 bytes from 212.x.254.4: icmp_seq=1184 ttl=58 time=104 ms 64 bytes from 212.x.254.4: icmp_seq=1185 ttl=58 time=108 ms __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam
Re: Ports
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 12:54:05PM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote:
--On Monday, February 14, 2005 11:53:04 AM -0500 Christopher McGee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could you please give some detail about setting options for individual
ports in make.conf? Maybe I missed something in 'man make.conf' or 'man
ports' but everything seems to refer to global options. The only example
I've found is in man portmanager, but I'm still a little unsure about the
how to do it properly.
Since Mike posted an example, I won't repeat it. I should point out that
you can also use /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. Here's an example of that:
MAKE_ARGS = {
'security/snort-*' = 'WITH_MYSQL=1 WITH_FLEXRESP=1'
}
One thing that should be mentioned here is that this only works when one
is using portupgrade for installing and upgrading ports. People using
portmanager or just the straight makefiles in /usr/ports won't be
benifiting from this.
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The University of Texas at Dallas
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Re: Resuming compilation sesssion
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 12:12:12PM +0100, Erik Norgaard wrote: Vittorio wrote: With a FBSD 5.3 box I use to compile my favourite programs from scratch with: cd /usr/ports/prog_I_want make make install clean But sometimes I have to interrupt the compilation because the PC is shared with other people. How can I resume the compilation session from where I stopped it? If you crtl-c, then compilation breaks. As long as the 'make clean' has not been done, next time you 'make' it will continue where it stopped. If it is only a short period, you can crtl-z (suspend), then you can see the job with 'jobs', make it nice 'renice -20 %jobnumber', start it again in background with 'bg %1' or in foreground with 'fg %1'. This also applies to using portupgrade, but if you stop portupgrade with ctrl-c then you need to remember to resume portupgrade with the -w switch. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
