Re: RFC: Article on implementing UFS journaling on desktop PCs

2008-04-24 Thread Rolf G Nielsen

Gabor Kovesdan wrote:

Manolis Kiagias escribió:
I have just completed an article (mostly how-to) for implementing UFS 
journaling on a typical desktop PC:


http://store.itsyourftp.com/~sonic2000gr/freebsd/gjournal-desktop/article.html 



It focuses on detailing an easy to follow, repeatable procedure, to 
install FreeBSD on a typical PC and enable journaling on /usr and 
possibly /var.

I am using this same procedure on my systems.

I welcome all feedback, please send me any comments, suggestions and 
corrections.
Nice work like the other one! I won't have time till Monday, but I'd be 
more then happy to review and commit this article if you can send me the 
sources.


Regards,
Gábor Kövesdán
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The man page for gjournal does not say what unit to use when specifying 
the journal size with the -s option. Sectors? GB? Anything else? Or is 
there a default (say sectors) that can be changed by using a suffix, 
like -s 10G?


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Re: RFC: Article on implementing UFS journaling on desktop PCs

2008-04-24 Thread Rolf G Nielsen

Manolis Kiagias wrote:



Rolf G Nielsen wrote:

Gabor Kovesdan wrote:

Manolis Kiagias escribió:
I have just completed an article (mostly how-to) for implementing 
UFS journaling on a typical desktop PC:


http://store.itsyourftp.com/~sonic2000gr/freebsd/gjournal-desktop/article.html 



It focuses on detailing an easy to follow, repeatable procedure, to 
install FreeBSD on a typical PC and enable journaling on /usr and 
possibly /var.

I am using this same procedure on my systems.

I welcome all feedback, please send me any comments, suggestions and 
corrections.
Nice work like the other one! I won't have time till Monday, but I'd 
be more then happy to review and commit this article if you can send 
me the sources.


Regards,
Gábor Kövesdán
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The man page for gjournal does not say what unit to use when 
specifying the journal size with the -s option. Sectors? GB? Anything 
else? Or is there a default (say sectors) that can be changed by using 
a suffix, like -s 10G?

You are right, although it does say the default is 1Gb.
However the jsize option is only available when both data  journal are 
stored on the same provider, and the article does not deal with this, as 
it uses separate providers for data and journal.
I could give this a try on my virtual setup and see what kind of unit is 
used.

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I'm considering using such a setup. And if I decide to give it a go, 
I'll have to backup, boot from a custom CD I made, make the changes to 
the disks and restore the backup. Considering that, trying out what unit 
is used, should only take a fraction of the total time, and it doesn't 
really scare me to try it. :) I realize my question went to the wrong 
person, but I simply replied to the mail. My apologies.


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freeze and crashes

2008-04-25 Thread Alain G. Fabry
Have a issue here. I've been running FreeBSD 6.3 release for about 6 months now 
without problem. Then last week I purchase another external HD and installed 
release 7.0.
Everything went great for about 3 weeks. Then suddenly my 7.0 started to crash 
(kde freezing, sudden reboots, etc). The first time happened when I was 
performing a portsnap on a FreeBSD Qemu session. It came up to the point where 
this 7.0 installation wasn't workable anymore.

Since I need to work to earn money as the rest of us, I fell back to my 6.3 
release external HD -> copied over my data files and now I'm starting to get 
the same symthoms.

Input/output errors, reboot when performing a simple 'man something'. -> could 
this be a virus or something?

I'm not sure how or what I can do to find out what could be the cause of this 
problem?

Is there anywhere I can find out more about debugging such strange behavior. 
(everything works fine and then suddenly it freezes permanently or just reboots 
on its own)


Thanks,

PS: I'm about to reinstall the 7.0 release and hope that that will work normal 
again.

Alain
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Re: freeze and crashes

2008-04-25 Thread Alain G. Fabry
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 10:47:34AM -0400, Alexander Sack wrote:

Thanks everybody for the feedback. I'm not going to bring out the champagne yet 
but I believe I might have found the problem.
Replaced my USB cable and now everything seems to be stable again.

I'll definitely look into the info provided below by everybody, don't want to 
be as frustraded as I was without having a clue what was happening.

In case the issue returns, I want to be prepared

Thanks,

PS Sorry for top posting.

Alain

> Hi Alain:
> 
> Without more details its hard to understand where your hang or freeze
> is coming from.  What I DO suggest is that you build a debug kernel
> and/or minimally enable the kernel debugger (DDB).  Then when the box
> is frozen you can get into the debugger (CTRL-ALT-ESC), type "bt", and
> post it on the list to give everybody a chance to understand what is
> hanging ("show msgbuf" as well actually).
> 
> Here is some good documentation on how to build kernels (and debug
> ones) if you don't already know:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html
> 
> Generally speaking I would enable in my KERNCONF file (GENERIC, etc.
> under src/sys//conf/)
> 
> # Turn off debugging symbols
> makeoptions   DEBUG=-g
> 
> # Debugger support
> options   KDB
> options   DDB
> options   KDB_TRACE
> 
> If you want to go further, for example you believe this is a locking
> issue then you can go whole hog and do:
> 
> # Heavy duty debugger options
> options   DEBUG_LOCKS
> options   INVARIANTS
> options   INVARIANT_SUPPORT
> options   WITNESS
> options   WITNESS_SKIPSPIN
> 
> Be warned that the kernel.debug KO (kernel object) will run a lot
> slower than a stock non-debug kernel (the extra metadata the kernel is
> keeping track off etc.) so there are instances where running a debug
> kernels could make a timing bug disappear or appear more/less
> frequently.  In any event, if the problem is easily reproducible, I
> whole-heartily recommend you minimally enable KDB/DDB support so you
> can dump things on the appropriate list AS WELL AS build a complete
> debug kernel that may catch the issue (you will see console messages
> including lock order reversals and other nastiness).
> 
> Here is some good documentation about kernel debugging:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html
> 
> Let us know how things go,
> 
> -aps
> 
> PS Make sure that new disk is good!
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Alain G. Fabry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Have a issue here. I've been running FreeBSD 6.3 release for about 6 months 
> > now without problem. Then last week I purchase another external HD and 
> > installed release 7.0.
> >  Everything went great for about 3 weeks. Then suddenly my 7.0 started to 
> > crash (kde freezing, sudden reboots, etc). The first time happened when I 
> > was performing a portsnap on a FreeBSD Qemu session. It came up to the 
> > point where this 7.0 installation wasn't workable anymore.
> >
> >  Since I need to work to earn money as the rest of us, I fell back to my 
> > 6.3 release external HD -> copied over my data files and now I'm starting 
> > to get the same symthoms.
> >
> >  Input/output errors, reboot when performing a simple 'man something'. -> 
> > could this be a virus or something?
> >
> >  I'm not sure how or what I can do to find out what could be the cause of 
> > this problem?
> >
> >  Is there anywhere I can find out more about debugging such strange 
> > behavior. (everything works fine and then suddenly it freezes permanently 
> > or just reboots on its own)
> >
> >
> >  Thanks,
> >
> >  PS: I'm about to reinstall the 7.0 release and hope that that will work 
> > normal again.
> >
> >  Alain
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Re: Logitech G9 mouse and FreeBSD 7

2008-05-05 Thread Rolf G Nielsen

Nickolay D. Hodyunya wrote:

Hi everyone.
I'm using Logitech G9 mouse with my freebsd 7.0 box. The problem is that
my mouse don't response after I click on additional buttons. The cursor stop
moving in both system console and xorg session.


I've had the same problem with my G5. When I disabled moused it went away.
Edit /etc/devd.conf and search for ums, then comment out (or delete) the 
entire section. Then edit xorg.conf, go to the mouse section and change 
the Device to /dev/ums0 and Protocol to auto. Moreover, you may need to 
put a line that modifies the button numbers of the mouse (xmodmap -e 
does that) in your .xsession or .xinitrc.


(...)


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Re: 486 Install??

2008-05-16 Thread Rolf G Nielsen

Thomas F Simpson Jr wrote:

I have a 486 DEEP GREEN system I would like to put some version of FreeBSD on 
(I have my reasons).

I have other inquiries out on this, but if I correctly recall (and that is a 
real rusty recall at best), the max memory you could get on one of these beasts 
was 48MB, unless they made some bigger, recognizable, 72-pin modules.

I have 8 MB of hard drive space free for a FreeBSD partition and I am actually 
running an Intel P24T Overdrive for my CPU. All work fine on the DOS 6.2.2 
partition I need to run.

Would any version of FreeBSD work with just 48MB of RAM? Or do I need to figure 
out a way to get more RAM on the board, IF POSSIBLE?

Thanks.

Tom Simpson
Omaha, NE
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402.896.1157



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I'll have to admit to being curious. Why? (And I'm sorry, but I can't 
help you. Hope someone else can.)


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FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-27 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of FreeBSD?

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Re: FreeBSD based router ...

2008-05-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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Ability to route several C-class networks through multiple incoming fiber 
connections using BGP4, including VLAN support ... we're trying to keep the DC 
as 'FreeBSD centric' as we can, which is why the interest in someone like 
Juniper vs going with Cisco ...



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>> Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of
>> FreeBSD?
>
> define what "enterprise level router" is
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BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In

2008-06-05 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, with a
break down as follows:

   PC-BSD   14 715 hosts
   FreeBSD   6 331 hosts
   DesktopBSD2 662 hosts
   NetBSD  108 hosts
   MirBSD   68 hosts
   OpenBSD  59 hosts
   DragonFly27 hosts
   MidnightBSD  22 hosts
   GNU/kFreeBSD  6 hosts

We currently have hosts being reported in from 121 countries, with the top 10 
being:

   United States   5 639
   Russian Federation  1 653
   Germany 1 489
   Australia   1 314
   Brazil  1 242
   Japan   1 004
   France823
   United Kingdom822
   Ukraine   790
   Canada747

Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org

Project Objective:

"The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and
marketing of the *BSD operating systems."


PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled,
while the rest have to be enabled manually.

For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set
things up.

If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the report
script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is
being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is  required,
and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are 100%
optional ...

For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the
word, we need more ...

Thanks to the folks at PC-BSD, we have a new PHP programmer that will be 
working with Antony Mawer towards cleaning up / finishing some of the 
outstanding areas of the web site, so expect to see some improvements in 
statistics reporting over the next few weeks.

If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ...

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Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In

2008-06-05 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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- --On Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:31:30 +0300 Odhiambo Washington 
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> Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up.
> I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable
> the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD
> that there are FreeBSD?
> For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to
> be submitted.

That is why we're working on both improving the site itself (fixing issues with 
the sub-release areas), as well as trying to a more regular monthly notice up 
... I find a jump in stats each time I do so as more ppl find out about it ...

Report I did a few months back shows only 85 Countries reporting in, so 
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Re: g4u

2008-06-20 Thread D G Teed
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Jean-Paul Natola <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> can I use G4U  to clone a 40 gig drive to a 30 gig drive,  if the source
> drive only has 20 gigs of data?
>

G4U does not work with data, it works with partitions or whole disks.
If you get that concept, it will help in planning what you do with it.

A partition normally has a file system which has a file access table.
If you want file lookups to work properly afterwards, you need the
target partition to be at least the same size as the original.

I've tried to keep my answer OS agnostic as this BSD based utility
is capable of doing the job for any OS.

For broader hardware support, I suggest consideration of udpcast, which is
Linux based.  gzipped disk clone image files made from g4u are compatible
with restoring the same to a new target from udpcast, in case you wondered.

--Donald
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Re: clone a drive, no raid involved

2008-06-20 Thread D G Teed
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Brad Mettee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm setting up a pair of machines with almost identical OS config, and
> completely identical hardware. One is a primary DNS server, the other is
> secondary. NS1 will also serve web, NS2 will be a mail server. Both are low
> volume/loads.
>
> It looks like I can use DD to copy an entire drive, but it's a 500G drive
> and that's going to take a really long time (especially since it's brand new
> with no data besides base OS).
>
> My question: Is there a better way to duplicate a drive including boot
> info?


You've got lots of useful answers on duplicating the system other ways,
but I thought I'd mention that dd's performance can be enhanced by
providing a blocksize.  You might want to time some reads and writes
with a set of numbers that divides evenly into the byte count of your disk.
Years ago I found I could write a 40 GB laptop (4200RPM) disk in
21 minutes rather than one hour.

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keymapping -> numlock doesn't work anymore

2008-06-30 Thread Alain G. Fabry
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (qemu host)
X.Org X Server 1.4.2
HP Compaq nc8430 laptop

Hi, recently I performed a portupgrade (-R xorg-server) and now my numlock 
doesn't work anymore under Xorg.
Since I was having problems with my key-mapping in Qemu (key 1 and 4 did not 
work), I used the numlock to boot my FreeBSD guest in single user mode.

In the CTRL+ALT+F1 session (not sure who you call this non-X tty session), the 
num_lock works fine.

I've looked at the xev and from what I see this confirms that my num_lock is 
not working.

REGULAR "j"
+

KeyPress event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x321,
root 0x4c, subw 0x0, time 15118461, (-133,-349), root:(966,270),
state 0x0, keycode 44 (keysym 0x6a, j), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (6a) "j"
XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (6a) "j"
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x321,
root 0x4c, subw 0x0, time 15118511, (-133,-349), root:(966,270),
state 0x0, keycode 44 (keysym 0x6a, j), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (6a) "j"
XFilterEvent returns: False

LEFT SHIFT + CAPITAL "J"


KeyPress event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x321,
root 0x4c, subw 0x0, time 15120328, (-133,-349), root:(966,270),
state 0x0, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyPress event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x321,
root 0x4c, subw 0x0, time 15120628, (-133,-349), root:(966,270),
state 0x1, keycode 44 (keysym 0x4a, J), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (4a) "J"
XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (4a) "J"
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x321,
root 0x4c, subw 0x0, time 15120689, (-133,-349), root:(966,270),
state 0x1, keycode 44 (keysym 0x4a, J), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (4a) "J"
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x321,
root 0x4c, subw 0x0, time 15120980, (-133,-349), root:(966,270),
state 0x1, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

NUM LOCK followed by j
++

KeyPress event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x321,
root 0x4c, subw 0x0, time 15135961, (-133,-349), root:(966,270),
state 0x0, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x321,
root 0x4c, subw 0x0, time 15136005, (-133,-349), root:(966,270),
state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyPress event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x321,
root 0x4c, subw 0x0, time 15138611, (-133,-349), root:(966,270),
state 0x10, keycode 44 (keysym 0x6a, j), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (6a) "j"
XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (6a) "j"
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x321,
root 0x4c, subw 0x0, time 15138662, (-133,-349), root:(966,270),
state 0x10, keycode 44 (keysym 0x6a, j), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (6a) "j"
XFilterEvent returns: False


What can I do to solve this?

Thanks,

Alain
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Possible ath (AR5212) disfunctionality on 7-STABLE

2008-07-07 Thread Martes G Wigglesworth
Greetings List.

I recently upgraded a system to 7-STABLE and found that neither of my
two ath-5212 based wireless pci devices were recognized.  I actually had
to revert to using a similar system that still had 6.3-STABLE installed.

Has anyone else had similar experience, or does anyone have any
information on this at all?

I wanted to upgrade and use 7-STABLE for my wireless/wireline routing
however, as it is right now, I am unable to even use the devices.


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Wireless 3945ABG problems

2008-07-17 Thread Alain G. Fabry

Hi,

I'm having problems getting my wireless Intel 3945ABG to work.
Running FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE.

Following are some results from /var/log/messages after different commands:

After boot
==
wpi0:  mem 0xf400-0xf4000fff irq 11 at 
device 0.0 on pci16
wpi0: Ethernet address: 00:19:d2:58:91:37
wpi0: [ITHREAD]
wpi0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
wpi0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps
wpi0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 
36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
wpi0: Radio Transmitter is switched off

sysctl debug.wpi=2


ifconfig wpi0 down
==
Disabling Firmware execution
NEWSTATE:INIT
wpi0: timeout resetting Tx ring 1
wpi0: timeout resetting Tx ring 3
wpi0: timeout resetting Tx ring 4
Disabling Firmware execution
NEWSTATE:INIT

ifconfig wpi0 up

Resetting the card - clearing any uploaded firmware
Loading microcode  size 0x384
firmware status=0x, val=0x4040, result=0x4040
Status Match! - ntries = 0
microcode alive notification version 10e02 alive 1
microcode alive notification version 10e02 alive 1
wpi0: Radio Transmitter is switched off
state changed to 1
wpi0: Radio transmitter is switched off

Press wireless button on laptop -> OFF
==
ugen0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected
ugen0: detached

Press wireless button on laptop -> ON
=
ugen0:  
on uhub0

ifconfig wpi0 scan list / ifconfig wpi0 scan

HERER


I can't get it to find a network -> and I'm sure that there is one, even many.

What could be the problem. 

Thanks,

Alain
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portupgrade policykit problem

2008-07-23 Thread Alain G. Fabry

Hi,

Hope I didn't do something stupid here

Tried to 'portupgrade -R policykit' but it came back with an error. So I 
deinstalled it and now I'm trying to reinstall it, but it fails with the 
following error.


R=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DPACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" 
-DPACKAGE_BIN_DIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DPACKAGE_LOCALSTATE_DIR=\""/var"\" 
-DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\""/usr/local/share/locale"\" 
-DPACKAGE_LIB_DIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -D_REENTRANT 
-DKIT_COMPILATION -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 
-I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include-I/usr/local/include  -O2 
-fno-strict-aliasing -pipe  -Wall -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations 
-Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Wformat 
-Wformat-security -MT kit-string.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/kit-string.Tpo -c -o 
kit-string.lo kit-string.c
 cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../../src -I../../src 
-DPACKAGE_LIBEXEC_DIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" 
-DPACKAGE_SYSCONF_DIR=\"/usr/local/etc\" 
-DPACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\"/usr/local/share\" -DPACKAGE_BIN_DIR=\"/usr/local/bin\" 
-DPACKAGE_LOCALSTATE_DIR=\"/var\" 
-DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\"/usr/local/share/locale\" 
-DPACKAGE_LIB_DIR=\"/usr/local/lib\" -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -D_REENTRANT 
-DKIT_COMPILATION -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 
-I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing 
-pipe -Wall -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs 
-Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Wformat -Wformat-security -MT 
kit-string.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/kit-string.Tpo -c kit-string.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o 
.libs/kit-string.o
kit-string.c:141: error: redefinition of 'strndup'
kit-string.c:119: error: previous definition of 'strndup' was here
gmake[3]: *** [kit-string.lo] Error 1
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/sysutils/policykit/work/PolicyKit-0.9/src/kit'
gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/sysutils/policykit/work/PolicyKit-0.9/src'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/policykit/work/PolicyKit-0.9'
gmake: *** [all] Error 2
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/policykit.


Also tried 'make distclean' and a new 'make install clean', but it keeps on 
failing.

I hope that in case I need to reboot, it won't crash my system. But I'll 
postpone my reboot as long as possible. Maybe I can reinstall it with your 
advice.

Thanks,

Alain
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Re: portupgrade policykit problem

2008-07-24 Thread Alain G. Fabry

Works like a charm, many thanks.



On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:12:12PM -0300, Bruno Schmitt wrote:
> Update your ports. There is a new patched version 0.9_1 that 
> will
>  solve the problem. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 
> at
>  2:07 AM, Alain G. Fabry <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">alainfabry
> @belgacom.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Hope I didn't do something stupid here
> 
> Tried to 'portupgrade -R policykit' but it came back with an error. 
> So I
>  deinstalled it and now I'm trying to reinstall it, but it fails with the 
> fo
> llowing error.
> 
> 
> R=\""/usr/local/etc"\" 
> -DPACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\""/usr/
> local/share"\" 
> -DPACKAGE_BIN_DIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\&qu
> ot; -DPACKAGE_LOCALSTATE_DIR=\""/var"\" 
> -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR
> =\""/usr/local/share/locale"\" 
> -DPACKAGE_LIB_DIR=\"&quo
> t;/usr/local/lib"\" -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -D_REENTRANT 
> -DKIT_COMP
> ILATION -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include 
>   &
> nbsp;-I/usr/local/include  -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe  -Wall 
> -Wcha
> r-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith 
> -Wcast-alig
> n -Wsign-compare -Wformat -Wformat-security -MT kit-string.lo -MD -MP -MF 
> .deps/
> kit-string.Tpo -c -o kit-string.lo kit-string.c
> 
>  cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../../src -I../../src 
> -DPACKAGE_LIBEXEC_D
> IR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" 
> -DPACKAGE_SYSCONF_DIR=\"/usr/local/etc\
> " -DPACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\"/usr/local/share\" 
> -DPACKAGE_BIN_DIR=\&quo
> t;/usr/local/bin\" -DPACKAGE_LOCALSTATE_DIR=\"/var\" 
> -DPACKAGE_LO
> CALE_DIR=\"/usr/local/share/locale\" 
> -DPACKAGE_LIB_DIR=\"/usr/loc
> al/lib\" -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -D_REENTRANT -DKIT_COMPILATION 
> -I/usr/l
> ocal/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include 
> -O2
>  -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations 
> -Wnes
> ted-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Wformat 
> -Wformat-securi
> ty -MT kit-string.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/kit-string.Tpo -c kit-string.c 
>  -fPI
> C -DPIC -o .libs/kit-string.o
> 
> kit-string.c:141: error: redefinition of 'strndup'
> kit-string.c:119: error: previous definition of 'strndup' was here
> gmake[3]: *** [kit-string.lo] Error 1
> gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
> `/usr/ports/sysutils/policykit/work/PolicyKit-0.9/sr
> c/kit'
> gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
> `/usr/ports/sysutils/policykit/work/PolicyKit-0.9/sr
> c'
> gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
> `/usr/ports/sysutils/policykit/work/PolicyKit-0.9
> 9;
> gmake: *** [all] Error 2
> *** Error code 2
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/policykit.
> 
> 
> Also tried 'make distclean' and a new 'make install clean', 
> but
> it keeps on failing.
> 
> I hope that in case I need to reboot, it won't crash my system. But 
> I'll
>  postpone my reboot as long as possible. Maybe I can reinstall it with your 
> advi
> ce.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alain
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Re: x11/xterm question

2008-08-04 Thread Alain G. Fabry

I guess what you are looking for is xconsole.
 

On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 12:37:41AM +0200, mcassar wrote:
> hi anyone,
> 
> can anyone tell me how to replicate/get this thing running cuz i'm still 
> learning the basics of unix, and really hooked on freebsd - but this is 
> driving me nuts and need to ask.
> 
> hope this explains it proper since i don't know the technical terms of what 
> i'm looking for; which might make this easier-
> 
> basically i have xorg and kde3 running ok, and i'm using kdm now - by 
> editing  /etc/ttys -> tty8.
> 
> but previously, when testing x11 and kde i was first starting x11 
> with 'startx' without any .xinitrc file whatsoever - so i could go to the 
> basic x that starts with a couple of xterms and a clock, if you know the 
> one...
> and then type 'startkde' in one of those.
> 
> kde starts, but what i'm interested in, is that the xterm i started kde from 
> keeps displaying messages - which on a few occasions seemed very clean, on 
> others i noticed warnings - like bad window, etc.
> 
> now i'm basically trying to get one of those running after starting from kdm 
> - 
> if possible. i don't know if 'tail' is what i'm looking for, and if so 
> whether it goes through some log file somewhere in /var, or through running 
> processes somehow.  unless the most i can do is run that one a single app.
> 
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Re: Problem with firefox3

2008-08-20 Thread Rolf G Nielsen

Albert Shih wrote:

Hi all

I've some problem with firefox3, I would like to known if it's me or they
are other user to have same problem.

Sometime when I want to some website (very classic site) I loose every
images, other time I've got something unreadable.

Anyone have this kind of problem ? 


All my ports is up2date.

Regards.



I experienced the same problems. Mainly with sites using frames, but 
occasionally with non-framed sites too. I got tired of it, and 
downgraded to firefox 2. Perhaps there is some tweak that fixes it, but 
I tried changing every setting without luck. So, I'd bet my money on 
firefox 2 for the time being.


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cPanel or Plesk in jail ... ?

2008-09-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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Simple enough, has anyone been able to get either to run successfully in a jail?




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Grid computing under FreeBSD using jails ... ?

2008-09-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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Is it possible to run software on two different jails that would load balance 
processes between two or more VPSs?

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Re: Virtual machines hosted on FreeBSD 7

2008-09-08 Thread Alain G. Fabry
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 10:21:56PM -0500, Derek Ragona wrote:
> I have a FreeBSD 7 release I wanted to use as a host for virtual 
> machines.  What software is anyone else using to host virtual machines 
> under FreeBSD?
> 

I use Qemu and run XP, Solaris, Gentoo, and FreeBSD as guests.
Speed is not super, but workable for me since it is just to play with.


> I'd just like to here what has worked, or what has not worked.  I find it 
> easier to find a solution asking for real world experiences.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> 
> 
> -Derek
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Auto blacklist ssh connections ...

2008-09-17 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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Does anyone know of a utility that I can use with sshd to auto-block by IP if 
there are more then N failed attempts in a row?

ie:

# grep "Invalid user" /var/log/auth.log| awk '{print $10}' | sort | uniq -c | 
sort -nr
5268 140.113.210.174 

4863 72.52.225.116 

3586 116.14.255.141 

2918 193.205.186.67 

2033 219.76.75.6 

1308 216.14.127.67 

1059 61.72.106.71 

 983 93.123.14.9 

 691 202.75.221.197 

 649 59.77.33.139 

 381 201.80.15.207 

 269 190.10.255.73 

 212 81.252.254.189 

 181 123.151.32.12 

 150 211.21.47.50 

 139 196.219.63.3 

 128 200.111.64.171 



This is for one day ... I'd like to be able to throttle so that after X Invalid 
user attempts, the IP gets blocked ...

Possible?

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Re: diablo-jdk vs jdk1.5

2006-05-27 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 24 May 2006, Norberto Meijome wrote:


Hi all,
2 questions re. JDK 1.5 :
- is .15 considered now stable? ( I remember reading that it was still
considered alpha quality, but i cant see that notice anymore).

- re. diablo-jdk : Other than the obvious advange of precompiled package
(already done for me, SUN certified) , is there other advantage to using
diablo-jdk instead of building my own?
And, in the same vein, any caveats I should keep in mind when using diablo-jdk
instead of jdk-1.5?


My understanding is that the precompiled package performs better then the 
one you build from ports, *but* ... I don't know why ...


On my 6-STABLE machine, to get Azureus to work properly, I had to add the 
following to /etc/libmap.conf:


[/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/]
libpthread.so   libc_r.so
libpthread.so.2 libc_r.so.6

else it just didn't work ...

Beyond that, I've been using the precompiled one and been most happy with 
it ...




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Re: system load mrtg ?

2006-06-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Thu, 1 Jun 2006, Norberto Meijome wrote:


On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:07:13 +0200
Frank Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello

I'm searching for some tools that are able to produce
some graphics ( understandables by managers ...) to
show the system load ( CPU . DISK I/O , memory ... etc etc )

The purpose is to show how the machine ( mailhub ) is loaded
to replace it by a stronger box.

TIA


http://www.cacti.net/


I tried cacti, and I don't know if its FreeBSD itself, or cacti, but other 
then traffic stats, it sucked ... i was getting sys+usr+idle CPU %ages 
taht were adding up to 115% (or similar high #s) ...


I really wish that FreeBSD had something a bit better built into the 
kernel itself, to give you averages, similar to loadavg ... some easy way 
to determine % busy of disks, ethernet, cpu, etc ...



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storcon for FreeBSD 6.x ... ?

2006-06-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier


Does anyone know if there is one somewhere for FreeBSD 6.x?  Intel's site 
only has a 4.1 version that I can find ...


If not, what is the best method of connecting to and looking at an IIR 
controller with FreeBSD 6.x?


Thx ...


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spontaneous reboot

2006-06-15 Thread D G Teed

Hi,

A server spontaneously rebooted last night.
I don't see why.  The last item in the messages
file prior to reboot was:

Jun 15 01:40:39 machinename /kernel: NMI ISA 24, EISA ff

There is nothing atypical in the messages log prior to that.

The server is running fine again now.

Does that message point to a hardware issue?
I see no mention of NMI in messages files on a
couple of other BSD boxes.

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Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-06-20 Thread Marc G. Fournier


... and is there anything we can do as a community to prevent it?

I've been a FreeBSD users since '94, and proud of it ... and have 
vehemently defended, all the way, my decision to use it vs 'the dark side' 
...


Although my above subject is a more "general call", my big beef right now 
is with RAID controller vendors, but I don't believe that the problem is 
specific to them, so hopefully others will ring in ...


I've used several different controllers over the years ... Adaptec was my 
first love, but I've used Intel, 3Ware, and, more recently, HPs ... out of 
the lot, I'd have to say the least supported (HP) has turned out to be the 
more pleasurable one to use, since checking the status of the RAID array 
is the easiest:


# camcontrol devlist
 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (da0,pass0)

but, as an example, Intel used to be really nice, in that I could run the
storcon utility (under FreeBSD 4.x) that Intel provided on their web site 
to actually see the whole BIOS and view drives, etc ... it was a dream ... 
but it looks like they stop'd support for FreeBSD at 5.x :(


I just read a recent thread about monitoring RAID controllers on one of 
hte lists (this one?) where someone mentioned that Adaptec's Official 
stand is that they don't support storage management under FreeBSD ... but, 
in ports, we have the older aaccli interface, which I understand doesn't 
work with newer controllers ...


So, my question above, and a public call to -core, or anyone else:

  What can we, as a community, due to improve this situation?

Its not enough anymore to know a piece of hardware *works* with FreeBSD, 
but more that the vendor is willing to acknowledge us as a market ... 
petitions don't do anything, IMHO ... it all falls to 'money talks' for 
most vendors (not all of them, but alot of them) ...


Is there anything we can do?


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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-06-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote:


On 6/21/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


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[deleted]


>
>   What can we, as a community, due to improve this situation?
>

Simple.  If you want to run RAID-5 then purchase the HiPoint card or
the 3ware card, both of them come with manufacturer-written drivers.
3ware is really great, they have a developer with committ rights and
they just stick their driver right into the FreeBSD source repository.



s/HiPoint/HighPoint/ a.k.a HighPoint Technologies, Inc. or simply HPT.

I have two HighPoint controllers and like them both:
FreeBSD 6.1/i386 + HPT2220 + 8x250GB.
FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE/amd64 + HPT1820A + 8x300GB.

Areca also supports FreeBSD:
$ man arcmsr (FreeBSD 5.4+)
http://www.areca.com.tw

My next controller will probably be from Areca because they support
RAID level 6 and have multi-lane connectors... maybe ARC-1130ML +
12x500GB. Does anyone know what SAS (Serial Attached SCSI) RAID
controllers are supported by FreeBSD?, they can use SATA drives
correct?


SAS is what I'm using in our HP servers ... don't know about SATA drives, 
since the SAS drives are closer to a 'laptop size' then full size drive 
... the HP controller is supported by the CISS driver, and is, by far, 
IMHO, the best driver we have, since you don't need any 'external 
utilities' to check the status of the RAID controller ... wish they all 
provided that :(



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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-06-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote:


On 6/21/06, Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote:

> On 6/21/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marc
>> >G. Fournier
>> >Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:24 AM
>> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >Subject: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
>> >
>
> [deleted]
>
>> >
>> >   What can we, as a community, due to improve this situation?
>> >
>>
>> Simple.  If you want to run RAID-5 then purchase the HiPoint card or
>> the 3ware card, both of them come with manufacturer-written drivers.
>> 3ware is really great, they have a developer with committ rights and
>> they just stick their driver right into the FreeBSD source repository.
>>
>
> s/HiPoint/HighPoint/ a.k.a HighPoint Technologies, Inc. or simply HPT.
>
> I have two HighPoint controllers and like them both:
> FreeBSD 6.1/i386 + HPT2220 + 8x250GB.
> FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE/amd64 + HPT1820A + 8x300GB.
>
> Areca also supports FreeBSD:
> $ man arcmsr (FreeBSD 5.4+)
> http://www.areca.com.tw
>
> My next controller will probably be from Areca because they support
> RAID level 6 and have multi-lane connectors... maybe ARC-1130ML +
> 12x500GB. Does anyone know what SAS (Serial Attached SCSI) RAID
> controllers are supported by FreeBSD?, they can use SATA drives
> correct?

SAS is what I'm using in our HP servers ... don't know about SATA drives,
since the SAS drives are closer to a 'laptop size' then full size drive
... the HP controller is supported by the CISS driver, and is, by far,
IMHO, the best driver we have, since you don't need any 'external
utilities' to check the status of the RAID controller ... wish they all
provided that :(



HighPoint and Areca both have native FreeBSD array management
utilities and 12port, and up, Areca controllers have a built-in
Ethernet port with an embedded http/smtp/snmp/telnet server running on
them.

Oh and SAS controllers can support SATA drives, from Adaptec's website:

"The SAS connector is a universal interconnection that is form-factor
compatible with SATA, allowing SAS or SATA drives to plug directly
into a SAS environment whether for mission critical applications with
high availability and high performance requirements or lower
cost-per-gigabyte applications such as near-box storage.

SATA connector signals are a subset of SAS signals, enabling the
compatibility of SATA devices and SAS controllers. SAS drives will not
operate on a SATA controller and are keyed to prevent any chance of
plugging them in incorrectly.

In addition, the similar SAS and SATA physical interfaces enable a new
universal SAS backplane that provides connectivity to both SAS drives
and SATA drives, eliminating the need for separate SCSI and ATA drive
backplanes. This consolidation of designs greatly benefits both
backplane manufacturers and end-users by reducing inventory and design
costs."

--
http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/products/sata/_education/SAS_SATA_unprlcompat.htm


a. HPs SAS drives don't have the same form-factor as the SATA drives, or,
   at least, not the SATA drives I've had experience with, so although the
   interface may work with either, the rack mount servers don't have that
   option ... my love of the SAS drives is 4 drives per 1U rack, which
   means I can do RAID1+0 instead of RAID5 on SCSI/SATA racks ...

b. are ppl actually using/promoting SATA drives in a server environment?
   Or are we just talking about situations where you have a large number
   of spindles to work with?  My one experience with an SATA configuration
   is that the server doesn't *feel* like its performing as well as my
   SCSI servers do ... under load ...


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SSH tunneling to FreeBSD 6.x using entunnel ...

2006-06-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier


I have a client that has been using entunnel for the longest time to do an 
SSH tunnel into their vServer ... we've recently begun upgrading to 
FreeBSD 6.x, and entunnel is no longer working (upgraded from FreeBSD 4.x) 
...


Apparenty, bitvise.com's tunnelier has the same problem ...

The way the client describes how entunnel used to work for them:

"entunnel was great - i never had to think about it. it just worked, all 
the time, automatically - came up at startup as a service and just sat in 
the system tray."


Without having to downgrade their OpenSSH to the same version as was on 
FreeBSD 4.x (bad option!), is there something that I can look at on the 
FreeBSD 6.x OpenSSH to fix the problem?  Maybe some backwards 
compatibility mode?


Thanks ...


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Re: Why have I get kern.ipc.maxpipekva exceeded; see tuning(7) message ?

2006-06-22 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, KHalid Faith wrote:


I use FreeBSD6.0

My server  give me an error as below

kern.ipc.maxpipekva exceeded; see tuning(7)

When I looked at its value as below

sysctl -a |grep kern.ipc.maxpipekva
kern.ipc.maxpipekva: 16777216

How can I do about that ?


Add an entry to /boot/loader.conf, similar to:

# cat /boot/loader.conf
kern.ipc.maxpipekva=67108864

I'm up to 64M, with current usage being closer to 40M:

==
kern.ipc.maxpipekva: 67108864 - kern.ipc.pipekva: 39112704
running processes: 1528


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RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-06-22 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Tamouh H. wrote:

I know there have been a lot of mentioning of 3Ware and SCSI. But I went 
on 3WARE website and there is not a single SCSI Adapter RAID or else!


In that case, the only real players left for SCSI are Adaptec and LSI 
(aside from HP controllers). Adaptec is out of question for FreeBSD due 
to its performance, so really only LSI left!


In our case, where we are dealing with co-located servers, we've finally 
settled on HP Proliant servers ... not only do I like the SAS drives (4 in 
a 1U rack so that I can use RAID1+0), but iLO is 's 
gift to remote administration, and the HP RAID controllers actually 
provide FreeBSD with usual status information without requiring some 
external utility ...


Cost is a bit more, but when your servers are several countries south of 
you, and you hate disturbing the techs down there if you don't have to, 
the ability to see the BIOS (motherboard and RAID controller), as well as 
everything happening on the console ... and being able to reboot ... I'll 
pay the extra ...



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Re: Why have I get kern.ipc.maxpipekva exceeded; see tuning(7) message ?

2006-06-22 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, KHalid Faith wrote:


Ok
How can  I do active the loader.conf ?
is there any command for it ?


You have to reboot, unfortunately ...



Thanks

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Subject: Re: Why have I get kern.ipc.maxpipekva exceeded; see tuning(7)
message ?



On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, KHalid Faith wrote:


I use FreeBSD6.0

My server  give me an error as below

kern.ipc.maxpipekva exceeded; see tuning(7)

When I looked at its value as below

sysctl -a |grep kern.ipc.maxpipekva
kern.ipc.maxpipekva: 16777216

How can I do about that ?


Add an entry to /boot/loader.conf, similar to:

# cat /boot/loader.conf
kern.ipc.maxpipekva=67108864

I'm up to 64M, with current usage being closer to 40M:

==
kern.ipc.maxpipekva: 67108864 - kern.ipc.pipekva: 39112704
running processes: 1528


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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-06-22 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:



On Jun 22, 2006, at 11:55 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

not only do I like the SAS drives (4 in a 1U rack so that I can use 
RAID1+0)


What drives are they?  There is nothing in the SAS spec about drive 
dimensions so it seems you like your particular models of SAS drives


Ack, I thought it was a standard size thing, never even thought about it 
... I ordered the drives from HP, with the server ...


From:

http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/drives-enclosures/index.html?jumpid=ex_hphqglobal_wwentsem/Proliant

I'm guessing what I got were the 2.5" form factor, vs the 3.5" ... and 
based on that same page, looks like I can get 2.5" SATA also ... i thought 
the 'small size' was a SAS feature :(



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Re: SSH tunneling to FreeBSD 6.x using entunnel ...

2006-06-23 Thread Marc G. Fournier


This worked perfectly, thank you ...


On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Lowell Gilbert wrote:


"Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


I have a client that has been using entunnel for the longest time to
do an SSH tunnel into their vServer ... we've recently begun upgrading
to FreeBSD 6.x, and entunnel is no longer working (upgraded from
FreeBSD 4.x) ...

Apparenty, bitvise.com's tunnelier has the same problem ...

The way the client describes how entunnel used to work for them:

"entunnel was great - i never had to think about it. it just worked,
all the time, automatically - came up at startup as a service and just
sat in the system tray."

Without having to downgrade their OpenSSH to the same version as was
on FreeBSD 4.x (bad option!), is there something that I can look at on
the FreeBSD 6.x OpenSSH to fix the problem?  Maybe some backwards
compatibility mode?


I don't know those particular Windows clients, but maybe they want
your sshd_config to enable PasswordAuthentication?
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HP Dealer in Panama, Central America ... anyone?

2006-06-23 Thread Marc G. Fournier


Figured I'd ask here ... HP themselves don't appear to have an office, but 
maybe someone in the area knows whom I could talk to?


Thx

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Opinions Wanted: Dell PowerEdge Servers ... ?

2006-06-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier


I'm currently weighing options ... my last two servers were HP Proliant, 
and I *really* like them, but I might have a line on a supplier in Panama 
that deals in Dell Servers and not HP ...


Looking at Dell's web site, the PowerEdge has an optional "Remote Access 
Controller" that will it *sounds* like will give me similar functionality 
as HPs iLO ...


But, I've heard bad things about their 'desktop offerings', and am not 
sure if that follows through to their "Servers" ...


So, I'm kinda looking for both good, and bad, experiences with the 
PowerEdge stuff ... anyone with opinions?


Thx ...


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Re: Opinions Wanted: Dell PowerEdge Servers ... ?

2006-06-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, David Kelly wrote:


On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 10:03:42PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:


I'm currently weighing options ... my last two servers were HP
Proliant, and I *really* like them, but I might have a line on a
supplier in Panama that deals in Dell Servers and not HP ...

Looking at Dell's web site, the PowerEdge has an optional "Remote
Access Controller" that will it *sounds* like will give me similar
functionality as HPs iLO ...


Am not familiar with either, but are you sure this is hardware and not
Windows specific software?


I'm not 100% certain, after reading the following 'article' about it from 
2002, but my feel is that the only "requirement" is that I run Windows IE 
to access the interface ... I know with iLO, there is nothing OS related 
that I have to install to make use of it, but I'm not certain with DRAC 
...


http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/power/en/ps2q02_bell?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs


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Re: Opinions Wanted: Dell PowerEdge Servers ... ?

2006-06-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, Nick Withers wrote:

I tend to think of Dell as a low-end provider that will cobble together 
systems based on whatever bits happen to be lying around (don't think 
that one PE 2650 is the same as the next!), which in turn are invariably 
the cheapest bits available for a particular job.


'k, this is exactly the thing that I'd heard about the Desktops ... and 
was curious about concerning their server offering ... you mention further 
up in your response that this was 'a little while back' ... how long ago, 
and can anyone here comment on whether or not this is still the case with 
Dell?


Pricing things out through the web sites, Dell is definitely the 'cheaper 
brand', at least in comparison to HP ... so will I end up "getting what I 
paid for" with the cheaper Dell, and regretting it, or ... ? :(






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place to obtain 4.11 install ISOs

2006-06-25 Thread D G Teed

Hi,

I cannot locate 4.11 installer CD ISOs.  The mirror says they
are moved to the archive FTP site, but they are not in that
site, at least not as an ISO.

Anyone have a hint/tip?

I'm already aware of the online store selling them, but
I was looking for something that would be in my hands
yesterday.

--Donald Teed
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Re: place to obtain 4.11 install ISOs

2006-06-26 Thread D G Teed

Thanks for the link.

The answer is standardization.  When you have 16
of them, people don't like 4 different versions in use.

--Donald

On 6/26/06, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 6/25/06, D G Teed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I cannot locate 4.11 installer CD ISOs.  The mirror says they
> are moved to the archive FTP site, but they are not in that
> site, at least not as an ISO.
>
> Anyone have a hint/tip?

Why 4.11? Why not 6.1? Anyways:

http://mirror.tomato.it/ftp/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.11/
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/announce.html


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Re: place to obtain 4.11 install ISOs

2006-06-26 Thread D G Teed

I was looking for something under:

ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/4.11-RELEASE

i didn't see the little ISO-IMAGES listed in the folder above that
after 6.0.  That is what happens when viewing this from seamonkey,
it is easier to notice stuff at the top than at the bottom as with a text
ftp client.

Thanks...

--Donald

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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, D G Teed wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I cannot locate 4.11 installer CD ISOs.  The mirror says they
> are moved to the archive FTP site, but they are not in that
> site, at least not as an ISO.
>
> Anyone have a hint/tip?

Actually, the I believe that the ISOs are stored on the archive FTP site.
Did you try this path?

ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.11

HTH,
-Andy.



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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-06-28 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Francisco Reyes wrote:


Marc G. Fournier writes:


settled on HP Proliant servers .


The problem with HP, as I see it,  is that they "officially" do not support 
freebsd.. I even sent an email to ask.. and the categorically stated that it 
is not supported.


I would not want to standarize on something which is not guaranted will work 
in the future with FreeBSD.


the problem is that none of the Tier 1 hardware manufacturer's support 
FreeBSD, and a growing number of places (ie. Adaptec / Intel) appear to be 
dropping support for it as well ...


Intel as an example, you can get storcon to manage the RAID controllers 
for both FreeBSD 4.x and 5.x, but they've not done similar for 6.x, which 
means I'm now "blind" on my RAIDs ...


With HP, at least, the ciss driver is smart enough to provide me with 
health info on my RAID controller, and I have the ability to manage 
everything remotely through iLO ...



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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-06-28 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Francisco Reyes wrote:


Marc G. Fournier writes:


So, my question above, and a public call to -core, or anyone else:
   What can we, as a community, due to improve this situation?


How about buying from vendors that specifically support FreeBSD.
http://freebsdsystems.com
http://ixsystems.com

and surely others.


In my case, it comes down to two words: remote administration ... HP is 
the only system I've yet found that has it integrated as part of the 
hardware ...


The other selling point for me on HP was the 2.5" SAS drives ... our new 
servers have 4x72G SAS drives in a 1U space, which means I can do RAID1+0 
...


Other point is leasability ... from an accounting perspective, its better 
for me to lease servers, then it is to buy them outright ... being in 
Canada, its very difficult to lease servers from the US ...


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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-06-28 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Francisco Reyes wrote:


Marc G. Fournier writes:

the problem is that none of the Tier 1 hardware manufacturer's support 
FreeBSD, and a growing number of places (ie. Adaptec / Intel) appear to be 
dropping support for it as well ...


But companies like 3Ware and Areca are supporting it and from what I see on 
the lists, people are voting with their money in their favor.


The problem is that 3Ware and Areca, I believe, are SATA vendors ... what 
I'm trying to do is keep to one 'integrated environment / vendor', and 
stick with SCSI ...



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Re: screen blanking and kde

2006-07-03 Thread Alastair G. Hogge
On Monday 03 July 2006 09:34, dick hoogendijk wrote:
> The machine I use fvwm on blanks the screen after a period of time (the
> default from Xorg). However, a machine running KDE does not(!), even
> without the screensaver enabled (in kde). Disabling the saver results
> in a screen never go blank. So, I guess, kde interfeares with xorg
> somewhere (disabling the blanktime feature from xorg).
>
> Does anybody know where this is done (by kde) and if this can be
> changed? Sure, I can use kde's screensaver (orxscreensaver), but I only
> want the screen go blank and xorg can do that just the same)

Just a me too...sorta.

My KDE session might blank out 3 or 4 times but after that it will just stay 
on. I noticed when using GNOME-2 the problem went away.
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unable to mount VCD's

2006-07-06 Thread Arun G Nair

Hi,
  Am unable to mount VCD's on freebsd 6.1. I have a custom kernel.
When trying to mount it says input/output error. Am trying to copy a
VCD as i can't play the last part of any vcd. Mplayer always says
broken frame when it reaches the end. :( I can mount all other data
CD's.

TIA

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Re: unable to mount VCD's

2006-07-10 Thread Arun G Nair

AFAIK, FreeBSD 4.x used to mount VCD's. I remember doing so. But don't
know why am unbale to do it on 6.1 . What are the kernel options that
are needed to do this ?
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boot FreeBSD from USB external drive

2006-07-14 Thread Alain G. Fabry

Is it possible to boot FreeBSD from external USB drive?
Have my XP PC from the office with many IT restrictions. I'm however capable to 
boot from USB.

If so, can you provide me some reference as on how to do the installation?

Thanks in advance,

Alain
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BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier


I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one 
adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the 
summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those deciding to 
report ...


This Phase of the script is optional, and not enabled by default ... I 
can't think of any reason why you wouldn't want to report it, but just in 
case someone feels it poses a problem, its an opt-in report ...


pkg-message updated to reflect the extra line you need to add to 
/etc/periodic.conf:


monthly_statistics_report_devices=yes

I've written it to report driver + chip= information from pciconf -l, 
since even pciconf -lv doesn't seem to use card= ... the summary report 
will be extended next to show both vendor and chip statistics ...


Let me know of any problems ...


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SAMBA as Domain Controller on FreeBSD 6.1

2006-08-07 Thread James G. Corteciano
Hello everyone!

Good Day!

I am using FreeBSD 6.1/6.x version of Operating System. I plan to 
switch my existing PDC Win2k Advanced server to FreeBSD with the 
power of Samba. Anybody may I know of how would you setup SAMBA as 
PDC in FreeBSD 6.x? I know this is not good question for asking HOWTO 
but the good procedures and right samba configurations might lead me 
up during installation process.

I am hoping for your kind consideration and favorable response.

Great many thanks.

Regards,

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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


While I'm definately interested in the statistical reporting,  I do have
one suggestion:

Add a random "sleep" time to the update.

Otherwise,  the reporting server is gonna get HAMMERED once a month,
assuming this project gains any kind of momentum.

A random sleep timer at the beginning of the script over (for example) a 3
hour window could make the load bearable for the checkin server.Just
something to consider.


To be totally honest, 'load n the checkin server' isn't something I'm 
terribly worried about ... right now, we are at ~200 hosts checking in, 
from various time zones (see http://bsdstats.hub.org/bsd_statistics.php 
for countries that have checked in so far) ... so, even at month end, 
taking into consideration time zones, I don't expect a major hit ... now, 
if we get to 10's of thousands of hosts, which I'd *love*, then I may 
worry, but by then, I'll have a Dual-Core Dual CPU server in place that I 
can move the whole thing over onto ...


IMHO, its going to be a slow ramp up over a long period of time, but, as I 
mentioned earlier ... it has to start somewhere, and we've accomplished 
that ... now to get everyone actually checking in, now that will be a feat 
to see :)


I've also contacted folks @ NetBSD, OpenBSD and DragonflyBSD about 
participating ... again, our aim is to show that the *BSD camp is a market 
to look at, not just a group of hobbiests ...


 > >


I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one
adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the
summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those deciding to
report ...

This Phase of the script is optional, and not enabled by default ... I
can't think of any reason why you wouldn't want to report it, but just in
case someone feels it poses a problem, its an opt-in report ...

pkg-message updated to reflect the extra line you need to add to
/etc/periodic.conf:

 monthly_statistics_report_devices=yes

I've written it to report driver + chip= information from pciconf -l,
since even pciconf -lv doesn't seem to use card= ... the summary report
will be extended next to show both vendor and chip statistics ...

Let me know of any problems ...


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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Daniel Gerzo wrote:


Hello Marc,

Monday, August 7, 2006, 5:42:27 AM, you wrote:


I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one
adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the
summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those deciding to
report ...



I've written it to report driver + chip= information from pciconf -l,
since even pciconf -lv doesn't seem to use card= ... the summary report
will be extended next to show both vendor and chip statistics ...


Maybe it would be better if you strip the ending number from the
driver, so the page will list total number of driver usage not fxp0,
fxp1 totals and so on.


Agreed, I have to clean that up, but I can do that one the server side, 
without affecting the client side at all ... the only thing that I'm not 
sending across the wire is the none#@ entries, since, as far as I could 
determine, they represent devices found, but not in use ...


Seems like some people are already trying to be funny, because according 
to the page there are already people running (~40) FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT 
:-) It's sad to see this to be happening.


Yup ... but, two things ... in most cases, finding 'funny ppl' won't be 
*too* difficult the way I have the backend setup (some are bound to always 
slip through, mind you), but the hope is that if enough legit ppl do check 
in, the 'fakers' will represent a small percentage of the total ...


We'll see how well practical and theory match up over time, mind you :)


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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Mark Kane wrote:


On Mon, Aug 07, 2006, at 00:42:27 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:


I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ...
this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously,
and the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those
deciding to report ...


Great project idea, and glad to see it's growing :). Every time I
refresh the page to check a host I add, I see several more since the
last refresh just a few minutes before. The new percentage display added
in the last few minutes is nice too.

I haven't followed the whole thread so I'm not sure if this has been
suggested yet or not, but my idea would be to make another table
of just the major releases. Like an easy view on who's running
6.1-RELEASE regardless of patch numbers, or 5.5-RELEASE, or
4.11-RELEASE, just so people can get a quick idea on who's running
which releases without having to look through every one including
patch levels (kind of a quick summary). Or maybe even numbers and
percentages for "4.x", vs "5.x", vs "6.x", etc, and another table for
"i386", "amd64", "sparc64", etc, so companies providing drivers or
closed source binaries can quickly see the numbers for those.

Just an idea :)


Refresh the page, I've add a new table since, which I believe is what you 
are asking for :)


Also, Antony, in Australia, is going to be doing some work on overall look 
of the pages, improve the presentation, give is a BSD feel to it ... I'm a 
grunt, hate making things look pretty :)



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chris wrote:


Just my .02 worth - that Sparc64 listing  Is mine Wheee!


There are two Sparc64 listings ... both yours?

The 8 in Panama are all mine :)


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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Mark Kane wrote:


On Mon, Aug 07, 2006, at 17:18:04 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

Refresh the page, I've add a new table since, which I believe is what
you are asking for :)


Exactly. Just a couple minutes after I hit send, I saw that there and
thought wow, that was fast! Then again I didn't see my post on the list
yet so I thought maybe you already had that idea :)


I just added one in that is half way between the two ... so it shows 
major.minor releases, not just major, but stripping off everything after 
the - 


I'm going to start playing with the devices report next ...


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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Bill Moran wrote:


In response to "Pat Maddox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


For those of us who can't read minds, what's the port to install, and
the website where we can view the stats? :)


As a side track on this, it'd be nice if the port installation message
said something like "got to http://bsdstats.hub.org to see current stats"


Good point, and done ...


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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote:

I think it would help uptake if when the bsdstats job is first run, it 
issues you with a 'registered system number' -- then all of the folks 
with low numbered systems get bragging rights...


Actually, there is no "registered system number", as there is no 
"registration process" ... that was the key requirement for doing this, 
was that it was as "hands off" as possible, and having to go to a web site 
to register each and every host was just too onerous of a task ...



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Daniel Bye wrote:


On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 05:22:04PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chris wrote:


Just my .02 worth - that Sparc64 listing  Is mine Wheee!


There are two Sparc64 listings ... both yours?


No - the other one is mine!

Nice work, scrappy - every time I check back, there's more information 
on the site.  Any word on the other groups joining in?


I've only heard from Matt @ DragonflyBSD ... if anyone knows other using 
the other BSDs, encourage them to join in ... we're going to put a proper 
"how to run" message up on the site shortly ...



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chris wrote:


Daniel Bye wrote:

On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 05:22:04PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chris wrote:


Just my .02 worth - that Sparc64 listing  Is mine Wheee!

There are two Sparc64 listings ... both yours?


No - the other one is mine!

Nice work, scrappy - every time I check back, there's more information
on the site.  Any word on the other groups joining in?



I do have a question tho -

What happens when one of wishes to upgrade. Say for example on my Sparc
- I want to go from RELEASE to STABLE.

At that point - is the port smart enough to remove old listings and put
forth the newer?


Its smart enough to know you've updated, and updates the record ... but, 
it will only update the record for the *current* month, not past months 
...


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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier


Done, thanks ...

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Boris Samorodov wrote:


On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 00:42:27 -0300 (ADT) Marc G. Fournier wrote:


I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this
one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and
the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those
deciding to report ...


Great, thanks Marc.
I just propose a tiny patch (the problem was discussed somewhere
today, may be at ports@):
-
--- Makefile.orig   Tue Aug  8 01:40:57 2006
+++ MakefileTue Aug  8 01:41:16 2006
@@ -22,6 +22,6 @@
${MKDIR} ${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly
${CP} ${FILESDIR}/300.statistics ${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly
post-install:
-   ${CAT} pkg-message
+   ${CAT} ${PKGMESSAGE}

.include 
-


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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Scott Sipe wrote:


+  UP=`/usr/bin/uptime | /usr/bin/grep -o "up [^,]*,[^,]*,"`


Is there a way of getting this consistently in seconds?  I've checked 
sysctl, and 6.x seems to have some of the information there, but 4.x 
definitely doesn't ...


And, uptime would definitely be another 'opt-in' feature, not required ...



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BSDstats Project: Our ultimate goal ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier


First off, thanks to *everyone* on this list ... those that have provided 
suggestions on both what should be included, as well as some of the coding 
that has been used (my shell scripting isn't as strong as my perl / php 
*sigh*) ... but, without people actually willing to *run* the script and 
report the information in, there would be no project ...


Although the site itself is *very* rough looking (my 4 year old daughter 
is more creative then I), I *just* put in place my personal goal for all 
of this ... what drivers are in use, and what vendors/chipsets ...


Check out:

http://bsdstats.hub.org/drivers.php

The header line is a bit mis-leading, as it says 'Systems' ... its not 
Systems, but # of times that driver has been used across all the systems 
... for instance, from one of my systems:


# select * from devices where id = 1;
 id | driver  | vendor | device |report_month
+-+++
  1 | agp0| 8086   | 2570   | 2006-08-07 03:28:22.607144
  1 | pcib1   | 8086   | 2571   | 2006-08-07 03:28:23.128248
  1 | pcib2   | 8086   | 244e   | 2006-08-07 03:28:23.554153
  1 | isab0   | 8086   | 24d0   | 2006-08-07 03:28:23.966463
  1 | atapci0 | 8086   | 24db   | 2006-08-07 03:28:24.687109
  1 | atapci1 | 8086   | 24d1   | 2006-08-07 03:28:25.096418
  1 | pcm0| 8086   | 24d5   | 2006-08-07 03:28:25.563785
  1 | nvidia0 | 10de   | 0322   | 2006-08-07 03:28:26.21311
  1 | fxp0| 8086   | 1229   | 2006-08-07 03:28:26.722562
(9 rows)

the pcib driver is used twice, as is the atapci driver ... again, wording 
could be improved ... so the count is # of devices using that driver ...


The information used to generate drivers.php is the same as used by 
pciconf -v, namely from:


http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0802/downloads/pcidevs.txt

Does anyone know how often that list get updated, by chance?


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Re: bsd stats list

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Where can I see this link to the stats list?

I have a bunch of FreeBSD boxes to add to it.


the stats script itself is /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats

the results can be found at http://bsdstats.hub.org


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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, andrew clarke wrote:


On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 04:14:50PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:


right now, we are at ~200 hosts checking in, from various time zones (see
http://bsdstats.hub.org/bsd_statistics.php for countries that have checked
in so far) ... so, even at month end, taking into consideration time zones,
I don't expect a major hit ... now, if we get to 10's of thousands of hosts,
which I'd *love*, then I may worry, but by then, I'll have a Dual-Core
Dual CPU server in place that I can move the whole thing over onto ...


This is good, but what is stopping someone with an axe to grind from
writing a rogue script to report fictional results?


Unfortunately, nothing ... and, also unfortunately, after extensive 
discussions on this list with others about possible ways to avoid it, 
there really isn't anything short of a 'required registration procedure' 
that can be done for that ...


that said, someone from Germany tried that this morning, submitting 41 
'hosts' that were quite obviously bogus (FreeBSD 8.x anyone?) and were 
easily removed from the system ...



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:



To enable the port, edit or create /etc/periodic.conf and add this line:
monthly_statistics_enable=yes


Shouldn't it be /etc/periodic.conf.local since its not part
of the base? Thats where I've put other things that install periodics
that aren't part of the base.


I've always put it in /etc/periodic.conf, since the 'system one' is 
/etc/defaults/periodic.conf, or so I thought ... same as 
/etc/defaults/rc.conf vs /etc/rc.conf ...



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Mikhail Goriachev wrote:


Marc G. Fournier wrote:

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chris wrote:


Just my .02 worth - that Sparc64 listing  Is mine Wheee!


There are two Sparc64 listings ... both yours?

The 8 in Panama are all mine :)



Where's Chile? I just added 4 boxes and they're not listed.


You are now :)

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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, David Schulz wrote:


Hello,

i have started to run this script , but for some reason i dont show up in the 
list. or maybe i do, but at least not the country from which i am submitting, 
china, has still zero entries. how can this be? my ip does resolve to a host 
in china when using some geoip lookup service...


I see China - 1 listed ... is that you? :)


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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote:


Marc G. Fournier wrote:

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote:


I think it would help uptake if when the bsdstats job is first run, it
issues you with a 'registered system number' -- then all of the folks
with low numbered systems get bragging rights...


Actually, there is no "registered system number", as there is no
"registration process" ... that was the key requirement for doing this,
was that it was as "hands off" as possible, and having to go to a web
site to register each and every host was just too onerous of a task ...


Yeah.  You've leapt on the word 'register' there, and not addressed the
salient point.  'Register' as in 'become cognisant of', and distinguished
from 'signed up to.'  Even though the process is simplified and automatic,
you're still registering systems.

Having some sort of return from the central stats machine when the periodic
script runs, (rather than nothing at all, as at the moment) would be a good
idea.  Giving each system an index number shouldn't cost too much.


But, there is no such ting as an 'index number' ... when everyone reports 
in next month, for instance, there is no 'number' that will be re-used for 
them that matches something used this month ...



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, David Schulz wrote:

cool yes, now i see it also, but it wasn't there before right after i 
executed my script. is there maybe some sort of delay before the data 
appears?


Yup, but only as the database grows ... I'm using the pear GeoIP module to 
determine country, of course, but am only storying the 2 char value in the 
main table ... that links up with a second 'full name' table that I have a 
script that I run periodically to populate ...




 >

On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:


On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, David Schulz wrote:


Hello,

i have started to run this script , but for some reason i dont show up in 
the list. or maybe i do, but at least not the country from which i am 
submitting, china, has still zero entries. how can this be? my ip does 
resolve to a host in china when using some geoip lookup service...


I see China - 1 listed ... is that you? :)


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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote:


On 07/08/2006 05:42, Marc G. Fournier wrote:


I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this
one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the
summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those deciding to
report ...

This Phase of the script is optional, and not enabled by default ... I
can't think of any reason why you wouldn't want to report it, but just
in case someone feels it poses a problem, its an opt-in report ...

pkg-message updated to reflect the extra line you need to add to
/etc/periodic.conf:

monthly_statistics_report_devices=yes

I've written it to report driver + chip= information from pciconf -l,
since even pciconf -lv doesn't seem to use card= ... the summary report
will be extended next to show both vendor and chip statistics ...

Let me know of any problems ...



Hi Marc,

thank you for your work!

Is it considered 'stable' or still in development/testing? Should we
go and tell others or is it too early yet?


Its was considered stable as soon as the uname output was sent out :)  Any 
additions done are done in such a way that it shouldn't break the previous 
ones, and are add-ons, not core ... so even someone still running an *old* 
(now!) v1.0 script won't have any problems, it just means devices reports 
are sent out for them yet until they upgrade to v2.0 ...


So, yes, defintely ... tell anyone and everyone that is running a *BSD 
system ... I'm having talks with Matt @ DragonflyBSD for one addition he'd 
like to see added to make sure that the script checks for network 
connectivity before trying to send its reports, after which he's planning 
on adding it to Dragonfly's base system install ... but, again, that won't 
affect older versions ...



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Gerhard Schmidt wrote:


On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 12:42:27AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:


I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one
adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the
summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those deciding to
report ...

This Phase of the script is optional, and not enabled by default ... I
can't think of any reason why you wouldn't want to report it, but just in
case someone feels it poses a problem, its an opt-in report ...

pkg-message updated to reflect the extra line you need to add to
/etc/periodic.conf:

monthly_statistics_report_devices=yes

I've written it to report driver + chip= information from pciconf -l,
since even pciconf -lv doesn't seem to use card= ... the summary report
will be extended next to show both vendor and chip statistics ...


Only out of curiosity. What kind of webserver have you. If only a part 
of the FreeBSD Users install your script and it got executed at the same 
time, this will get an awfull lot of load for your server.


I'm running Apache 2 + PHP 5.x ... with a PostgreSQL 8.1.4 database 
backedn to it ... I have a new Dual-CPU HP Proliant server on its way, 
upon which I'll put a second Apache 2 server and setup RR DNS so that 
both servers will answer and accept reports ...


I've got 8 servers in place if things can't keep up, and more being added 
... I'm not too worried about either server(s) or bandwidth ... and even 
less worried seeing that ppl have actually responded well to the whole 
thing ...



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Paul Schmehl wrote:


Marc, I have a couple of questions.

You use hostname and IP as a unique identifier for each host.  For that 
reason, I have not submitted any of our systems.  We use FreeBSD for 
sensitive security-related tasks, and we're loath to reveal that information. 
(When I submit or update ports, I always alter the uname information to 
"hostname.utdallas.edu" for that reason.)


Can you tell me exactly what you do with those two pieces of data?  Is there 
any way that information would be accessible from the internet?


Absolutely nothing else we do with it ... it just gives us a unique key to 
work with ... in fact, assuming each of your servers use a different IP, 
there is no reason you couldn't do the uname trick above to hide the 
hostname ...


Unless someone breaks into the server, or database, somehow, the data 
isn't accessible ...


Finally, it looks like your number one problem is going to be 
maintainence. Right now you're showing a ".x" and a "F.x" release.  Not 
sure if that's tampering or what, but it's obviously not legit.  You 
also have a sudden influx of hosts from Armenia.  Again, don't know if 
they're legit or not, but keeping up with that stuff is going to require 
eyes-on type manual labor.  I hope you've planned for that.


Have planned for it, and, in fact, am going to be making a couple of 
extra changes to the schema to allow for cleaning it up easier ...



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Vahan Yerkanian wrote:


Paul Schmehl wrote:
Finally, it looks like your number one problem is going to be maintainence. 
Right now you're showing a ".x" and a "F.x" release.  Not sure if that's 
tampering or what, but it's obviously not legit.  You also have a sudden 
influx of hosts from Armenia.  Again, don't know if they're legit or not, 
but keeping up with that stuff is going to require eyes-on type manual 
labor.  I hope you've planned for that.


sudden influx of hosts from Armenia - I installed BSDstats on my FreeBSD 6.1 
servers :) Any problem with that?


317 servers, all with the exact same IP?  I see 9 servers that look legit, 
and 317 that I would have classified as 'suspicious' ...



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Vahan Yerkanian wrote:


Paul Schmehl wrote:
Finally, it looks like your number one problem is going to be maintainence. 
Right now you're showing a ".x" and a "F.x" release.  Not sure if that's 
tampering or what, but it's obviously not legit.  You also have a sudden 
influx of hosts from Armenia.  Again, don't know if they're legit or not, 
but keeping up with that stuff is going to require eyes-on type manual 
labor.  I hope you've planned for that.


Ehm, actually something's really wrong :)

Armenia 331 28.24%

shouldn't be that much, I think I installed it on 4 servers :)


Yup, it was someone else from Armenia that it looks like modified the 
script and submitted all of their 'virtual hosts' as well as 'the server 
itself' ... although it does make the stats look good, please keep it to 
one entry per server (or even one per VPS, since that will then have a 
distinct IP) but not per virtual host :)




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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote:


How about some uptime stats as well?



No. We agreed we would not track people.


Again, if we add uptime states, it would be a *seperate* opt-in option ... 
the only quasi-not-opt-in (you still have to tell it to run the script) is 
the uname information ... even the pciconf information is purely opt-in 
...



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote:

Also why not track the ones with no driver attached... you should still 
be able to tell what the device is.


I was looking at it from a 'what drivers / hardware is in use' not 'what 
hardware is available' ...



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote:


On 9/08/2006 9:16 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
Can you tell me exactly what you do with those two pieces of data?  Is 
there any way that information would be accessible from the internet?


Absolutely nothing else we do with it ... it just gives us a unique key to 
work with ... in fact, assuming each of your servers use a different IP, 
there is no reason you couldn't do the uname trick above to hide the 
hostname ...


Unless someone breaks into the server, or database, somehow, the data isn't 
accessible ...


What if we improved upon this - if instead of storing the hostname and IP 
address, we stored a one-way hash of this information? OpenSSH in recent 
versions takes the same approach with its authorized_keys files...


Could create problems long term .. one thing I will be using the 
IPs to do is:


SELECT ip, count(1) FROM systems GROUP BY ip ORDER BY count DESC;

to look for any 'abnormalities' like todays with Armenia ...

hashing it would make stuff like that fairly difficult ...


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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier


On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote:

Anyhow, how about the following little enhancement.  This lists the CPUs 
on the system pretending they are CPU0, CPU1, ... devices.  The URI 
escape stuff should be automatically decoded by PHP without any extra 
coding required.


Perfect, added to script, as well as your clean ups ... thanks ...


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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote:


On 8/8/06, Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote:

> Anyhow, how about the following little enhancement.  This lists the CPUs
> on the system pretending they are CPU0, CPU1, ... devices.  The URI
> escape stuff should be automatically decoded by PHP without any extra
> coding required.

Perfect, added to script, as well as your clean ups ... thanks ...



What about PC-BSD? AFAIK they all have the same hostname. Some company
could have 1000+ PC-BSD desktop systems hiding behind NAT. I just sent
in one for you to look at... Here's it's uname -a:

PCBSD# uname -a
FreeBSD PCBSD.localhost 6.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p2 #0: Fri
Jun 16 09:21:34 PDT 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PCBSDv1.11  i386


Unfortunately, if they are *all* the same hostname, and behind NAT, they 
will just be seen as *one* host ... what is PCBSD?



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote:


On 9/08/2006 1:49 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote:

PCBSD# uname -a
FreeBSD PCBSD.localhost 6.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p2 #0: Fri
Jun 16 09:21:34 PDT 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PCBSDv1.11  i386


Unfortunately, if they are *all* the same hostname, and behind NAT, they 
will just be seen as *one* host ... what is PCBSD?


It's a user-friendly version of FreeBSD designed to provide a workstation 
environment for the more novice-style users.. see here for details:


   http://www.pcbsd.org/?p=learnhome

It's not a different BSD OS per se (as opposed to Free/Dragonfly/Net/OpenBSD) 
but obviously the pre-defined hostname is a problem for determining 
uniqueness... I wonder if this is something better addressed by the PC-BSD 
developers as part of their setup process?


In this case, I think it would have to be ... as much as I hate to refer 
to Windoze, but even they at least do something semi random when you setup 
the machine for a hostname, so that not everyone is 'the same' ...



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Garrett Cooper wrote:

Also, maybe that person from Armenia installed the script in a 
distribution that's included in a virtual image (vmware comes to mind), 
and he's loading it on a bunch of different machines behind a (virtual) 
NAT or something... just a thought to consider.


If that's the case, those numbers should come back again in Sept ... but, 
the hostnames for the "odd ones" were all:


"http://www.domain.am";

with the quotes included, which seemed a really odd value for 'hostname' 
to have produced :)



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Igor Robul wrote:


On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 09:30:42PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

Could create problems long term .. one thing I will be using the
IPs to do is:

SELECT ip, count(1) FROM systems GROUP BY ip ORDER BY count DESC;

to look for any 'abnormalities' like todays with Armenia ...

hashing it would make stuff like that fairly difficult ...

You can make _two_ hashes and then concatenate to form unique key.
Then you still be able to see "a lot of single IPs". Personaly, I dont
care very much about IP/hostname disclosure :-)


Except that you are disclosing that each and every time you send out an 
email, or hit a web site ... :)


Regardless, though ... what do ppl suggest here?  Simple 'md5' hash?


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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, jan gestre wrote:


/usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics

btw is the syntax correct?

monthly_statistics_enable=yes
monthly_statistics_report_devices=yes

or should the yes be "YES" ?


syntax is correct, and you are now on the countries list :)

thx

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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Paul Schmehl wrote:


Marc G. Fournier wrote:

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Igor Robul wrote:


On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 09:30:42PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

Could create problems long term .. one thing I will be using the
IPs to do is:

SELECT ip, count(1) FROM systems GROUP BY ip ORDER BY count DESC;

to look for any 'abnormalities' like todays with Armenia ...

hashing it would make stuff like that fairly difficult ...

You can make _two_ hashes and then concatenate to form unique key.
Then you still be able to see "a lot of single IPs". Personaly, I dont
care very much about IP/hostname disclosure :-)


Except that you are disclosing that each and every time you send out an 
email, or hit a web site ... :)


The systems I'm concerned about are on private IP space, to not send email 
and don't have X installed, much less a web browser and can only access 
certain FreeBSD sites to update ports.  In fact, they're not even accessible 
from *inside* our network except from certain hosts.  In order to 
successfully run the stats script on these hosts, I would have to open a hole 
in the firewall to bsdstats.hub.org on the correct port.


And yes, I *am* paranoid.  But if you really want *all* statistics you can 
get, then you'll have to deal with us paranoid types.  My workstation, which 
is on a public IP, is already registered.


Done ... now I really hope that the US stats rise, maybe?  I have a hard 
time believing that Russia and the Ukraine have more deployments then the 
'good ol'US of A' ... or do they? *raised eyebrow*


Here is what is now stored in the database (using my IP as a basis)

# select * from systems where ip = md5('24.224.179.167');
  id  |ip| hostname | operating_system |  release   | architecture | country |report_date 
--+--+--+--++--+-+---

 1295 | 45c80b9266a5a6683eee9c9798bd6575 | 4a9110019f2ca076407ed838bf190017 | 
FreeBSD  | 6.1-RC1| i386 | CA  | 2006-08-09 
02:34:05.12579
1 | 45c80b9266a5a6683eee9c9798bd6575 | 9a45e58ab9535d89f0a7d2092b816364 | 
FreeBSD  | 6.1-STABLE | i386 | CA  | 2006-08-09 
16:01:03.34788

And yup, I have two hosts sitting behind a router ...


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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Paul Schmehl wrote:


Igor Robul wrote:


The only down side is it still can be faked, just like everything else.

IP from which connection is made cannot be  faked, at least I dont know
how to fake it. So there is at least one "unfakable" part of key. But
there is no real need to keep real IP in database, for privacy reasons
it is better to keep one-way hash in database.

We're using PAT.  That means that, when I use a private host to access 
the internet, I could be on any one of a number of IP addresses. 
However, I was assuming that Marc is using the IP reported by ifconfig, 
which *should* be unique for each host, as opposed to the IP that 
connects to him, which could represent literally thousands of hosts in 
some cases.


ifconfig most definitely wouldn't be unique for each host ... ifconfig on 
my machines here would show 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.1.99 ... I have no 
idea how many, but I imagine there are *alot* of hosts behind a NAT, or 
router, that would show those same numbers ...


The uniqueness is a combination of IP+hostname ... again, as one pointed 
out with PCBSD, this isn't always necessarily the case, but, IMHO, that is 
a flaw of PCBSD having all hosts on the same network using the same 
hostname ...



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Vahan Yerkanian wrote:


Marc G. Fournier wrote:
If that's the case, those numbers should come back again in Sept ... but, 
the hostnames for the "odd ones" were all:


"http://www.domain.am";

with the quotes included, which seemed a really odd value for 'hostname' to 
have produced :)


Looks like a directadmin host. Moreover, resolves to an IP which is not in 
Armenia. Thought you were using some kind of IP to Country db like GeoIP to 
find geographic locations of the hosts. Otherwise, domains under f.e. .com 
gonna be shown as USA?


I'm using GeoIP for this, based on the IP that is IP of the connection ... 
this is one flaw, IMHO, to using md5, its going to be a bit harder to spot 
stuff like this ... but, not impossible either ...



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier


With minor mods, committed ... I moved bsdstats.hub.org to a variable, and 
added an 'echo' for when the stats, or a part of them, is disabled, that 
way if this ever does get into the base system, ppl reading monthly run 
output will know that they exist, and how to turn it on ...


thx ...

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Paul Schmehl wrote:

Someone mentioned having output from the script so you would know it was 
running.  This patch would do that, if you want to add that functionality.


--- 300.statistics.orig Wed Aug  9 09:49:35 2006
+++ 300.statistics  Wed Aug  9 09:54:17 2006
@@ -44,6 +44,7 @@
  SYS=`/usr/bin/uname -r`
  ARCH=`/usr/bin/uname -m`
  do_fetch getid.php?hn=$HN\&sys=$SYS\&arch=$ARCH\&opsys=$OS
+  echo "Posting monthly OS statistics to bsdstats.hub.org\n"
  case "$monthly_statistics_report_devices" in
 [Yy][Ee][Ss])
IFS="
@@ -57,6 +58,7 @@
DEV=`echo $line | awk '{print $4}' | cut -c8-11`
do_fetch 
report_device.php?driver=$DRIVER\&vendor=$VEN\&device=$DEV\&hn=$HN

done
+echo "Posting monthly device statistics to bsdstats.hub.org\n"

line=$( sysctl -n hw.model )
VEN=$( echo $line | cut -d ' ' -f 1 )
@@ -69,6 +71,7 @@
do_fetch 
report_cpu.php?cpu_id=CPU$n\&vendor=$VEN\&cpu_type=$DEV\&hn=$HN

n=$(( $n + 1 ))
done
+echo "Posting monthly CPU statistics to bsdstats.hub.org\n"

 ;;
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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Howard Jones wrote:


Marc G. Fournier wrote:


The uniqueness is a combination of IP+hostname ... again, as one pointed
out with PCBSD, this isn't always necessarily the case, but, IMHO, that
is a flaw of PCBSD having all hosts on the same network using the same
hostname ...


That's the nice thing with the 'ifconfig|sha256' scheme. Because it
would include the MAC address of the interfaces in the hash, the only
'identical' machines would be ones with no ethernet interfaces at all.


Right, and the bad thing is if yu alias another IP on that device, the 
hash totally changes, so we see that one host now as being two different
ones :)  That's why we disqualified using ifconfig right at the beginning 
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Up to v2.2 ... ( Was: Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ... )

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

--On August 9, 2006 9:32:18 AM +1000 Antony Mawer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



On 9/08/2006 9:16 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

Can you tell me exactly what you do with those two pieces of data?  Is
there any way that information would be accessible from the internet?


Absolutely nothing else we do with it ... it just gives us a unique key
to work with ... in fact, assuming each of your servers use a different
IP, there is no reason you couldn't do the uname trick above to hide
the  hostname ...

Unless someone breaks into the server, or database, somehow, the data
isn't accessible ...


What if we improved upon this - if instead of storing the hostname and
IP address, we stored a one-way hash of this information? OpenSSH in
recent versions takes the same approach with its authorized_keys files...

I like that idea.  I'm ready to submit my workstation, but I'm still a bit 
hesitant about some servers I adminA one way hash would alleviate my 
concerns.


'k, v2.2 brings us up to hashed unique keys, for more anonymity, and we've 
just added 'class' and 'subclass' to the devices report, so that we can 
improve the reporting, namely, so that we can group things better (ie. all 
RAID controllers or all ethernet controllers), that sort of thing ...


the devices list is getting a bit big to load right now ... the 'all 
devices' list will still be available, but, for instance, ppl looking to 
see 'most popular ethernet controller', this should help speed things up a 
bit ...



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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...

2006-08-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Howard Jones wrote:


Marc G. Fournier wrote:


Right, and the bad thing is if yu alias another IP on that device, the
hash totally changes, so we see that one host now as being two different
ones :)  That's why we disqualified using ifconfig right at the
beginning ...


But didn't you say that you effectively wipe the database once a month,
(or expire entries over that age)? I can't find the post that mentioned
that now, naturally... :-) if you aren't using the 'key' as a database
key, then what do you care that it changes as long as it uniquely
identifies the system (which it definitely would)?

I don't know how typical I am, but I don't really remember the last time
I added an IP alias on a running server, for our few dozen production
systems. I would imagine that those types of changes might well be lost
of systems coming and going.


I add/remove IPs from our servers several times each week, as we add VPS 
and remove them, or move then between boxes ...



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Re: Adding new IP's without reboot?

2003-11-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier

just run the appropriate 'ifconfig' command as root from the command line
...


On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Ben Dover wrote:

> Is there a way to add new IP’s to a FreeBSD 4.9 or 5.1 box without
> rebooting.  I add them to /etc/rc.conf but they are not effective until a
> reboot.  There are some webhosting assistant programs which allow instant
> use of IP’s with *nix and I was hoping there was a way to do this in FBSD.
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Re: nVidia Quadro NVS 200

2003-12-31 Thread Alastair G. Hogge
On Wednesday, 31 December 2003 15:19, Jay Sern Liew wrote:
> I couldn't find a comprehensive list of supported hardware in the handbook
> or in the release notes, hardware.txt file.
>
> I know nVidia provides FreeBSD drivers, but I can't seem to find anywhere
> on the FreeBSD WWW, mailinglist, freebsdforums.org, that says if the
> nVidia Quadro
> NVS 200 is supported. Anyone has got this dual head AGP card to work in
> FreeBSD?
There's a readme in the NVIDIA provided driver that lists the following 
supported Quadro cards:
  o Quadro   0x0103
  o Quadro2 MXR/EX/Go0x0113
  o Quadro2 Pro  0x0153
  o Quadro4 550 XGL  0x0178
  o Quadro4 NVS  0x017A
  o Quadro4 500 GoGL 0x017C
  o Quadro4 580 XGL  0x0188
  o Quadro4 280 NVS  0x018A
  o Quadro4 380 XGL  0x018B
  o Quadro DCC   0x0203
  o Quadro4 900 XGL  0x0258
  o Quadro4 750 XGL  0x0259
  o Quadro4 700 XGL  0x025B
  o Quadro4 980 XGL  0x0288
  o Quadro4 780 XGL  0x0289
  o Quadro4 700 GoGL 0x028C
  o Quadro FX 2000   0x0308
  o Quadro FX 1000   0x0309
  o Quadro FX 5000x032B

> Thanks.
No problem. Hope it was helpful.

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Re: ports confusion - are they configurable like I want?

2004-01-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Zoran Kikic wrote:

> hi,
>
> I build my apache from source and it runs wonderful on fbsd 5.1.
> Now I tried to do the same with the fbsd apache-port but I
> have no idea how to install the port with the same(exact) configuration
> arguments I used for my source build:
>
> ./configure --enable-layout=xyz --enable-file-cache --enable-cache
> --enable-deflate \
> --enable-proxy --enable-bucketeer --enable-module=so --with-mpm=worker \
> --enable-mods-shared=all --enable-logio --enable-ssl=shared
> --with-ssl-dir=/usr/local/ssl
>
> I realized the knobs an CONFIGURE_ARGS in Makefile but I still don't
> know how
> to proceed... I found many hints about this but nobody shows any
> samples.

One thing that should work is if you put a:

CONFIGURE_ARGS=

right after the last CONFIGURE_ARGS+= in the Makefile ... the ARGS+= adds
arguments, but if you say ARGS=, it will wipe out the previous settings
and force it "your way" ...

The thing is, there are alot of other defines in the Makefile that
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Re: Jails not quite stable..

2004-01-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am working on a project to move various services running directly under
> FreeBSD 4.8-REL to run under jails on the same servers. Setting up the jails
> is no problem at all (I can follow manpages), and bringing the jails up
> using either '/bin/sh /etc/rc' or '/usr/local/sbin/jailer' works as well.
> Basically, I can get a jail up and running with the desired service.
>
> However, I've found that jails are producing some problems during my
> testing.
>
> 1. On several occassions I have been unable to kill a process in a jail,
> even with a 'kill -9' from inside or outside the jail as root.
>
> europa# ps aux|grep J
> root  90423  0.0  0.4  1268  920  p0- DJ   10:44PM   0:00.01 /bin/csh
> europa# kill 90423
> europa# ps aux | grep J
> root  90423  0.0  0.4  1268  920  p0- DJ   10:44PM   0:00.01 /bin/csh
> europa# kill -9 90423
> europa# ps aux | grep J
> root  90423  0.0  0.4  1268  920  p0- DJ   10:44PM   0:00.01 /bin/csh

stupid question, but is there anything in /var/log/messages on the base
machine to indicate any problems?  how many processes are running on that
machine?  are the processes above as indicated?  ie. are they just shells,
or are they actually running something?

> 3. If a process is hung, such as /bin/csh, then odd things happen when
> accessing the location of the jail:
>
> # cd /dsk/jails/
> # ll
> total 51684
> drwxr-xr-x  13 root  wheel   512 Jan 10 22:17 mail1
> -rw---   1 root  wheel  52896075 Jan 10 20:47 skel.tgz
> # cd mail1europa
> # ll
> (ls just hangs at this point)

it sounds like what I used to experience with the 'running out of vnodes'
issue, but that is with using unionfs for a file system, and that is with
60+ jails running ... plus, the vnode problems that I was experiencing
were fixed a while back, such that its been >6months since I've
experienced that problem...

> # uname -v
> FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #0:

# uname -v
FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #4: Tue Jan  6 00:59:37 AST 2004 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/kernel

> I WANT to use jails to host most of our services, if for no other reason
> than the increase manageability, but there just seems to be a stability
> issue here. I realize I will get a lot of "It works for me", but again,
> these problems are reproducible, so I'm sure someone else has seen it. :)

I run 60+ jails per server, running just about anything you can think of
in the way of services ... no, I haven't seen this :(



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CPU usage goes way up on 5.1 when memory is added

2004-01-23 Thread Richard G. Roberto
Hi,

I've been running 5.1-RELEASE for quite some time on my dual PIII 333Mhz
Micron PC with 384MB of RAM and 670MB of swap.  Its a little low on memory
for what I'm now doing with it though, so I added 256MB of RAM.  The new
RAM gets recognized, and there are no obvious errors on the console or in
the logs, but every little thing drives the CPU utilization through the
roof and the system is unusable.  Even just typing "man ls" triggers it,
never mind trying to run ssh.  I remove the RAM, and it goes back to
normal.

I'm using a kernel with these relevent settings:

cpu I686_CPU
options SCHED_ULE
options COMPAT_43
options COMPAT_FREEBSD4
options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options SMP
options APIC_IO
options LAZY_SWITCH

There are other settings, but these are the only ones that might be
related, I'm guessing.

Has anyone seen anything similar to this?  I've searched google as well as
the mailing list archives and can't really find anything similar.  Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

rgr

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Re: CPU usage goes way up on 5.1 when memory is added

2004-01-23 Thread Richard G. Roberto
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:54:44 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote
> How are you trying to measure this?  Have you tried reverting to a
> GENERIC kernel to isolate one of your non-default options that may be
> causing the problem (or measurement artefact)?
> 
> Kris
Well, measuring it isn't really an issue as the problem is so drastic, 
there's no trouble in identifying it.  I have taken some vmstat and iostat 
data over time that can be used for comparison, but it really isn't 
necessary in this case.  The CPU usage isn't even close to normal with the 
additional memory.

Since this system is in heavy use, I haven't had the time to do a lot of 
trial and error with different kernel options yet.  I will certainly try to 
schedule that soon.  I was hoping that somebody on the list would have an 
idea as to why this happens.  I really can't form a relationship in my head 
between the additional RAM and the strange CPU behavior.  So I was hoping 
someone more familiar with freebsd 5.1 could help me out.  I know that the 
ULE scheduler is still experimental, so that was going to be my first choice 
for rolling back, but I'm still interested in hearing from anyone else who 
may have seen similar behavior.

I'm trying to get this sorted out before my linux zealot friends harass me 
to no end ;-)

Thanks again,

rgr

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Re: CPU usage goes way up on 5.1 when memory is added

2004-01-25 Thread Richard G. Roberto
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 03:22:51 -0600, Quintin Riis wrote
> Install GENERIC kernel and see if the problem persists.
> 
>   Quintin
> 
I played around with various options this weekend.  First I tried just 
switching the scheduler to the 4BSD version and got this:

cpuid = 0; apic id = 00
instruction pointer = 0x0:0xa00
stack pointer   = 0x0:0xffe
frame pointer   = 0x0:0x0
code segment= base 0x0, limit 0x0, type 0x0
= DPL 0, pres 0, def32 0, gran 0
processor eflags= interrupt enabled, vm86, IOPL = 0
current process = 0 ()
trap number = 30
panic: unknown/reserved trap
cpuid = 0;
Uptime: 1s

So, I tried booting the GENERIC kernel that came with the system (even 
though its not SMP).  This booted OK, but hung trying to start up squid and 
I suspect various other utilities.  I'm guessing this was due to memory 
shortage (which was why I added the memory).  There were no errors at all, 
so I really don't know why it got scrogged.

So, then I tried taking the generic kernel conf file and adding just SMP, 
IPSEC & IPFIREWALL support.  Again, this is using the 4BSD scheduler.  I got 
the same panic.  This is all with the same 384MB of RAM that works just fine 
with the SMP kernel I compiled with the ULE scheduler.

This system has never been so fragile, so I'm wondering if a strange 
hardware problem is creeping in.  I just don't know why its so selective 
about showing its teeth though.  So, I'm back to happily running the ULE SMP 
kernel with 384MB of memory, wishing I could just add some more memory.  If 
anyone can offer any more insight as to why the additional RAM causes the 
CPU usage to flake out, I'd be most grateful.

Cheers,

rgr

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Re: SpamAssassin quits after upgrade

2004-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier

Yes, it required an upgrade to Perl5.6 to fix it in my case ... in my
case, it was with amavisd ... it has something to do with
Sys::Hostname::hostname() in Perl5.005 :(

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Mike Oliveri wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've recently upgraded both Exim (to 4.30) and SpamAssassin (to 2.63) on my
> FreeBSD 5.1 box via their Ports, and suddenly I can no longer get
> SpamAssassin to work. If I enable spam scanning in Exim (the FreeBSD port
> includes the Exiscan-acl patch), none of my mail is delivered. If I comment
> out the lines pertaining to SpamAssassin scanning, everything works fine again.
>
> Has anyone else run into this problem, and hopefully resolved it?
>
> Thank you,
> Mike Oliveri
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