Re: Ports upgrade within Jail

2008-08-07 Thread Ivailo Tanusheff
The only common between the jail and the hosted system are the kernel and 
its drivers.
You may use entirely different ports in the base system and into the 
jailed enviroment. So you may keep your jailed ports up to date without 
any concern as long as they do not conflict with the base system drivers 
and etc.

Regards,

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Hello List,
i have a jail hosted on a 6-2 RELEASE machine i don't have access to. As 
i don't have access, i can't upgrade the base system. But i would like 
to keep the ports i use up to date.

Will i encounter problems if i just upgrade my ports using portsnap and 
portmaster? or will those tools be aware of the version my base system 
is and only use ports that are made for this version?

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Re: ports upgrade question

2006-06-11 Thread wc_fbsd



On 6/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm a newbie running 6.1 stable and I have what may be several 
simple questions: What exactly is happening when I run make index 
 make readmes after I upgrade my ports tree? Why aren't the 
indexes and readmes made when we run cvsup ports



You don't need to run make index... just cd into /usr/ports and type


Better yet, don't screw with cvsup.  Portsnap is standard equipment 
in 6.x.  It's much faster, uses less bandwidth, and is even less load 
on the update server.  And it does the indexes automatically.  Just 
man portsnap or search the archives.


  -Wayne
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Re: ports upgrade question

2006-06-10 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 6/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm a newbie running 6.1 stable and I have what may be several simple questions: What exactly is 
happening when I run make index  make readmes after I upgrade my ports 
tree? Why aren't the indexes and readmes made when we run cvsup ports-supfile? Finally, why does 
it take so long to make what appear (to me) to be fairly small files? Thanks.



You don't need to run make index... just cd into /usr/ports and type
'make fetchindex' after every cvsup session. You don't need to run
make readmes too, these are just html pages with all the ports listed
on them... see here for an example: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/


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Re: ports upgrade question

2006-06-10 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 6/10/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm a newbie running 6.1 stable and I have what may be several simple questions: What exactly 
is happening when I run make index  make readmes after I upgrade my ports 
tree? Why aren't the indexes and readmes made when we run cvsup ports-supfile? Finally, why does it 
take so long to make what appear (to me) to be fairly small files? Thanks.


You don't need to run make index... just cd into /usr/ports and type
'make fetchindex' after every cvsup session. You don't need to run
make readmes too, these are just html pages with all the ports listed
on them... see here for an example: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/


err... that link/example should be something more like this one:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=stuffstype=allsektion=all


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Re: Ports upgrade policy

2006-03-14 Thread Duane Whitty

Mike Loiterman wrote:

This is my supfile:

*default  host=cvsup1.FreeBSD.org
*default  base=/usr
*default  prefix=/usr
*default  release=cvs
*default  tag=RELENG_6_0
*default  delete use-rel-suffix

src-all

*default tag=.
ports-all
doc-all

I have been using it like this for years, obviously changing to the latest
release tag.  I haven't had problem and I'm not having problems, but my
question is this:

Is it advisable to sync my source to RELEASE, but to CURRENT for ports?
Typically, I upgade my ports a few days after they get updated so I'm always
running the latest version, but would it be better to sync both ports and
source to RELEASE?
  

Hi Mike,

It would be nice I guess if ports were tagged like src but they are not.
Basically HEAD is all there is vis-a-vis tags.  You can specify a
specific date however.

Duane

Obviously, it depends, somewhat, on personal choice, but in terms of
stablity and correctness which is better?

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Re: Ports upgrade policy

2006-03-14 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 04:18:13AM -0400, Duane Whitty wrote:
 Mike Loiterman wrote:
 This is my supfile:
 
 *default  host=cvsup1.FreeBSD.org
 *default  base=/usr
 *default  prefix=/usr
 *default  release=cvs
 *default  tag=RELENG_6_0
 *default  delete use-rel-suffix
 
 src-all
 
 *default tag=.
 ports-all
 doc-all
 
 I have been using it like this for years, obviously changing to the latest
 release tag.  I haven't had problem and I'm not having problems, but my
 question is this:
 
 Is it advisable to sync my source to RELEASE, but to CURRENT for ports?
 Typically, I upgade my ports a few days after they get updated so I'm 
 always
 running the latest version, but would it be better to sync both ports and
 source to RELEASE?
   
 Hi Mike,
 
 It would be nice I guess if ports were tagged like src but they are not.
 Basically HEAD is all there is vis-a-vis tags.  You can specify a
 specific date however.

Ports *are* tagged for each release, but they are not branched.


 
 Duane
 Obviously, it depends, somewhat, on personal choice, but in terms of
 stablity and correctness which is better?
 

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RE: Ports upgrade policy

2006-03-14 Thread Mike Loiterman
Erik Trulsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 04:18:13AM -0400, Duane Whitty wrote:
 Mike Loiterman wrote:
 This is my supfile:
 
 *default  host=cvsup1.FreeBSD.org
 *default  base=/usr
 *default  prefix=/usr
 *default  release=cvs
 *default  tag=RELENG_6_0
 *default  delete use-rel-suffix
 
 src-all
 
 *default tag=.
 ports-all
 doc-all
 
 I have been using it like this for years, obviously changing to the
 latest release tag.  I haven't had problem and I'm not having
 problems, but my question is this: 
 
 Is it advisable to sync my source to RELEASE, but to CURRENT for
 ports? Typically, I upgade my ports a few days after they get
 updated so I'm always running the latest version, but would it be
 better to sync both ports and source to RELEASE? 
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 It would be nice I guess if ports were tagged like src but they are
 not. Basically HEAD is all there is vis-a-vis tags.  You can specify
 a specific date however.
 
 Ports *are* tagged for each release, but they are not branched.

Yes, I know, which is why I asked the question...which is better?

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Re: Ports upgrade policy

2006-03-14 Thread Bob Johnson
On 3/14/06, Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Erik Trulsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 04:18:13AM -0400, Duane Whitty wrote:
  Mike Loiterman wrote:
  Is it advisable to sync my source to RELEASE, but to CURRENT for
  ports? Typically, I upgade my ports a few days after they get
  updated so I'm always running the latest version, but would it be
  better to sync both ports and source to RELEASE?
 
  It would be nice I guess if ports were tagged like src but they are
  not. Basically HEAD is all there is vis-a-vis tags.  You can specify
  a specific date however.
 
  Ports *are* tagged for each release, but they are not branched.

 Yes, I know, which is why I asked the question...which is better?

As I understand it, release tagsare static.  If you specify a release
tag, you get the ports as they were at the time of that release. 
Ports don't branch with releases, so if you want updated ports, you
use tag=.


- Bob
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RE: Ports upgrade policy

2006-03-14 Thread Jud
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:35:46 -0600, Mike Loiterman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Erik Trulsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
  Is it advisable to sync my source to RELEASE, but to CURRENT for
  ports? Typically, I upgade my ports a few days after they get
  updated so I'm always running the latest version, but would it be
  better to sync both ports and source to RELEASE? 
[snip]
  Ports *are* tagged for each release, but they are not branched.
 
 Yes, I know, which is why I asked the question...which is better?

Considerations I can think of -

(1) Advantage of using -HEAD (-CURRENT): Updates to ports may include
security fixes.

(2) Disadvantage of using -HEAD (-CURRENT): It is possible, though
perhaps not likely, that an updated port would require something your
-RELEASE base system lacked.

Jud
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Re: ports upgrade question

2004-05-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 02:25:18PM +0300, alexander botov wrote:

 I'm sure that this is a trivial question to ask . I'm considering source and 
 ports tree upgarde from 5.2_REL to 5.2.1_REL . I've never did cvs before
 (usually i back up , format + binary install and restore ) . I've read the 
 article from the handbook and everything is pretty much explained there . My 
 question is when i install the new distro how should i upgrade the ports tree 
 after syncing it from cvs ? Are there any guidelines , tips or tricks ? I've 
 heard about portupgrade port . Is this the right tool for bringing my ports 
 up to date ? Your help will be greatly appreciated and I hope will save me 
 hours of hesitation and headache :-)

You've pretty much got the right idea.  portupgrade(1) is the tool to
use.  However, you should read /usr/ports/UPDATING carefully -- apart
from anything else, if you're upgrading from the ports tree as it was
at the time of 5.2-RELEASE you'll have a tricky ruby(1) version bump
to deal with (ruby is the language portupgrade is written in) as well
as major updates for some large software collections like Gnome and
KDE.  

Note that the ports collection is developed pretty much independently
from the base system, and reflects the completely independent
development of software by any number of completely different
projects.  There's no particular requirement to only upgrade your
ports concurrently with upgrading your system.  In fact, it's probably
better to upgrade ports slightly more frequently (or perhaps even a
lot more frequently) than the base system.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: ports upgrade error?

2004-04-16 Thread Kent Stewart
On Friday 16 April 2004 08:11 am, Marwan Sultan wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 Im on FreeBSD 5.1-Release, CVsup, portupgrade are installed.
 I want to upgrade my ports tree, so I did whats on the Handbook.
 I'v copied and edit the file - ports-supfile.
 I ran the command cvsup -g -L 2 /path/to/ports-supfile

 And it gave me the following error:

 Parsing supfile /usr/home/deadline/things/ports-supfile
 Release not specified for collection host=cvsup1.freebsd.org

 I tired to change the mirror site, Also i tried to uncomment one
 of the packages, and I tired to add ports-all to end of the entries,
 but all gave the same error, any ideas? tips? please.

 This is my ports-supfile entries:

 host=cvsup1.freebsd.org
 *default host=cvsup1.freebsd.org

You only need the one with the *default on it. It is complaining about 
the first one.

Kent

 *default base=/usr
 *default prefix=/usr
 *default release=cvs tag=.
 *default delete use-rel-suffix
 *default compress
 ports-all


 PS: This command will run as a background proccess? if i disconnect
 from internet and I connect again later (Dialup) it will resume the
 updating? or i have to download it one time?
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Re: ports upgrade error?

2004-04-16 Thread Tim McMillen
On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 15:11, Marwan Sultan wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 PS: This command will run as a background proccess? if i disconnect from
 internet and I connect again later (Dialup) it will resume the updating?

I think it will time out and exit the process eventually, so you would
have to restart the cvsup.  You could script that, but be careful as
noted below.

 or i have to download it one time?

No, it is mostly a linear process.  Whatever is updated by the time you
disconnect will still be updated.  Then when you restart the cvsup, you
wont have to redo that part.  There is some overhead searching through
parts that don't need to be updated, so don't do it every 5minutes, but
its not huge overhead.

Tim

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Re: ports upgrade error?

2004-04-16 Thread Marwan Sultan
Thank you Tim, Thank you Kent,
This fixed the problem.


On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 07:14:28 -0700, Kent Stewart wrote
 
 You only need the one with the *default on it. It is complaining 
 about the first one.
 
 Kent
 
  *default base=/usr
  *default prefix=/usr
  *default release=cvs tag=.
  *default delete use-rel-suffix
  *default compress
  ports-all

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Re: ports upgrade w/out internet connection

2003-09-22 Thread Kent Stewart
On Monday 22 September 2003 08:44 am, Brian Henning wrote:
 Greetings:
 Can i perform a ports upgrade to a computer that has no internet
 connection by ftping the file /pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz
 and replacing the /usr/ports/ directory
 with the uncompressed version of this file? please let me know your
 opinion to solve my problem.

It is only the beginning. You also have to download the distfiles for 
each of the ports that you want to update. You could also download the 
packages and bypass building the ports. 

I don't think the packages will be as uptodate as the port structure 
that you would download. They require hours to build. Where as, the 
port structure can be tarballed fairly quickly every day.

Kent


 thanks,

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Re: ports upgrade

2002-12-20 Thread Ying-Chieh Liao
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 18:11:11 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello!
 If I cvsup'd ports what will I need in order to make my new ports to work? I mean I 
should make a buildworld?

no you wont

just installs portupgrade (ports/sysutils/portupgrade), and then run
portupgrade -R your_port_name
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Re: ports upgrade

2002-12-20 Thread Jud
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:11:11 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello!
If I cvsup'd ports what will I need in order to make my new ports to 
work? I mean I should make a buildworld?
Thanks!

You will often be able to build most or all of your new ports without 
building the world, because cvsup-ing has updated the ports skeletons.  
However, occasionally an updated port will depend on something in your 
system having been updated, so building world would be necessary to avoid 
breakage.  Therefore, unless building the world would be a problem (takes 
too long, don't want to take the machine offline, etc.), doing so avoids 
any potential difficulty.

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