Re: OT: dead box
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:11:37AM +, Frank Shute wrote: Sorry if this is a bit off-topic. I came in the other day to find my workstation powered off. Hitting the power on button had no effect as did using another known working outlet. I checked all the cables and they seem attached. I thought my power supply must have died so I got another, screwed it in and again no joy - no sign of life. Anybody got any ideas what the problem may be? I'm thinking possibly the power on switch but that seems a long shot and there seems no easy way to replace it. My hardware: Antec Sonata case. Gigabyte board. Core 2 duo TIA, Apologies for responding to my own post but I thought I should relate what the problem was for the archives. I tried reseating all attachments to the MB but that didn't prove fruitful. So since I thought it was upgrade time anyway, I bought a new MB and Intel quad core to go with it aswell as a 40GB Intel SSD. I repurposed the memory from the old MB to go with the new MB. Assembled it all and it worked. The old HD was OK too. So from that I deduce that the problem was either the cpu, MB or some dodgy attachment that the new assembly bypassed. The SSD has proved it's worth. Port builds are a lot faster, launching applications such as Mutt and Firefox are near instantaneous. locate(1) and find(1) jobs are pretty near instantaneous. So my advice to anybody still using EM HDs on a workstation is to get an SSD as your next upgrade if you haven't already. I suppose I'm fortunate in that my data needs are fairly small: $ df Filesystem 1K-blocksUsedAvail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad5s1a 1982798 261090 156308614%/ devfs 1 10 100%/dev /dev/ad5s1e 19566 2217980 0%/tmp /dev/ad5s1f 29893284 7870578 1963124429%/usr /dev/ad5s1d 1982798 69718 1754458 4%/var I just installed 8.0 and rsynced ~/ over. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Also have a dead box [ WAS: Re: OT: dead box ]
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:23:34 + (06:23 CDT) Chris Whitehouse wrote: When you press the power button does the cpu fan or the power supply fan spin for a moment then stop? That's a sign that something on or plugged in to the motherboard has blown. Unplug things and test again. Chris Just a few days ago, I was helping a friend build a system (with all brand new components, I might add) and we had this very problem. After sticking in the CPU and RAM and hooking up and turning on the PSU, the green LED on the motherboard turns on. However, the second the power button is pressed, everything flashes for a second, then turns back off. The green LED on the motherboard also remains on. The only way to get it to flash again is to turn off the PSU, wait, then turn it back on. We tried re-seating everything, to no avail. Reading this thread, someone else mentioned beep codes and that if there were none, it's most likely a fried motherboard. Can anyone else confirm this? ~Corey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Also have a dead box [ WAS: Re: OT: dead box ]
Reading this thread, someone else mentioned beep codes and that if there were none, it's most likely a fried motherboard. Can anyone else confirm this? Hummm, I think that is the CPU is missing/dead, you would get no beep. Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Also have a dead box [ WAS: Re: OT: dead box ]
Corey John Bukolt wrote: On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:23:34 + (06:23 CDT) Chris Whitehouse wrote: When you press the power button does the cpu fan or the power supply fan spin for a moment then stop? That's a sign that something on or plugged in to the motherboard has blown. Unplug things and test again. Chris Just a few days ago, I was helping a friend build a system (with all brand new components, I might add) and we had this very problem. After sticking in the CPU and RAM and hooking up and turning on the PSU, the green LED on the motherboard turns on. However, the second the power button is pressed, everything flashes for a second, then turns back off. The green LED on the motherboard also remains on. The only way to get it to flash again is to turn off the PSU, wait, then turn it back on. We tried re-seating everything, to no avail. Reading this thread, someone else mentioned beep codes and that if there were none, it's most likely a fried motherboard. Can anyone else confirm this? Beep codes may be available, but the nature will depend upon the manufacturer and the BIOS. Different manufacturers will produce different products. In the bad old days the most common beep codes were designed to indicate a video BIOS did not initialize, and then the main area of codes indicated something wrong in the memory subsystem. Pretty much if they made it past these two points the board would boot. And, of course, you need a speaker hooked up which I commonly don't because I don't want any beeps. One thing to be aware of with regard to modern day motherboards and power supplies. I don't recall the exact standards nomenclature, but they are spelled out in a spec. Modern day motherboards will have a main power connector with either 20 or 24 pins. Some are wired so that a 20 pin power supply cable can only go into some of the pins of a 24 pin connector, leaving 4 open. Some power supplies have a split cable which has a 20 pin and a 4 pin that can be hooked together and will occupy all 24 pins of a 24 pin connector. In either case, there is also another second power connector which is usually fairly close nearby to the CPU socket. With slightly older boards this will be a 4 pin and newer boards it will be an 8 pin. On older power supplies there may be only one 4 pin cable designed to plug into this connector. Newer models will usually have a cable that splits into two 4 pin plugs, so as to be able to plug both into an 8 pin socket while retaining backwards compatibility with the older 4 pin boards. This second connector goes to a high current 12volt rail within the power supply and drives all those 'multi-phase' regulators near the CPU. One thing that is consistent is motherboards will not even attempt to boot if this second power cable is not connected or cannot supply sufficient amps. Some power supplies may even beep or have an LED that flashes red. Overlook this and the board will never boot. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Also have a dead box [ WAS: Re: OT: dead box ]
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 14:36 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: Reading this thread, someone else mentioned beep codes and that if there were none, it's most likely a fried motherboard. Can anyone else confirm this? Hummm, I think that is the CPU is missing/dead, you would get no beep. Olivier I thought this as well, although googling shows that quite a few motherboard BIOSes will beep if there is a missing or dead CPU. I'll have to double check this, since I don't know the model number of the board. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Also have a dead box [ WAS: Re: OT: dead box ]
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 02:05:49AM -0500, Corey John Bukolt wrote: On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:23:34 + (06:23 CDT) Chris Whitehouse wrote: When you press the power button does the cpu fan or the power supply fan spin for a moment then stop? That's a sign that something on or plugged in to the motherboard has blown. Unplug things and test again. Chris Just a few days ago, I was helping a friend build a system (with all brand new components, I might add) and we had this very problem. After sticking in the CPU and RAM and hooking up and turning on the PSU, the green LED on the motherboard turns on. However, the second the power button is pressed, everything flashes for a second, then turns back off. The green LED on the motherboard also remains on. The only way to get it to flash again is to turn off the PSU, wait, then turn it back on. We tried re-seating everything, to no avail. Reading this thread, someone else mentioned beep codes and that if there were none, it's most likely a fried motherboard. Can anyone else confirm this? Did you have a monitor attached? Anything posted to the screen? My nephew had similar symptoms and it was because his heatsink on his CPU wasn't seated properly. The system would boot like yours but then die. He managed to catch on the screen a message like CPU temp exceeded which clued him in. BTW, your Reply to: is different from your From: which is confusing. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Also have a dead box [ WAS: Re: OT: dead box ]
On 3/23/10, Corey John Bukolt ruinermailchuc...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:23:34 + (06:23 CDT) Chris Whitehouse wrote: When you press the power button does the cpu fan or the power supply fan spin for a moment then stop? That's a sign that something on or plugged in to the motherboard has blown. Unplug things and test again. Chris Just a few days ago, I was helping a friend build a system (with all brand new components, I might add) and we had this very problem. After sticking in the CPU and RAM and hooking up and turning on the PSU, the green LED on the motherboard turns on. However, the second the power button is pressed, everything flashes for a second, then turns back off. The green LED on the motherboard also remains on. The only way to get it to flash again is to turn off the PSU, wait, then turn it back on. We tried re-seating everything, to no avail. Reading this thread, someone else mentioned beep codes and that if there were none, it's most likely a fried motherboard. Can anyone else confirm this? ~Corey Best way to confirm a dead board in any case is those POST diagnosis cards. They have a dual-digit LED output that changes depending on the signal on the wire. If at any time those dual-digit LEDs stay permanently on anything OTHER THAN 00 is a failed POST. If it fails before it gets a shot at testing RAM or anything, there may be no beep codes. Always good to have one in a toolkit. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Also have a dead box [ WAS: Re: OT: dead box ]
Tim Judd wrote: On 3/23/10, Corey John Bukolt ruinermailchuc...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:23:34 + (06:23 CDT) Chris Whitehouse wrote: When you press the power button does the cpu fan or the power supply fan spin for a moment then stop? That's a sign that something on or plugged in to the motherboard has blown. Unplug things and test again. Chris Just a few days ago, I was helping a friend build a system (with all brand new components, I might add) and we had this very problem. After sticking in the CPU and RAM and hooking up and turning on the PSU, the green LED on the motherboard turns on. However, the second the power button is pressed, everything flashes for a second, then turns back off. The green LED on the motherboard also remains on. The only way to get it to flash again is to turn off the PSU, wait, then turn it back on. We tried re-seating everything, to no avail. Reading this thread, someone else mentioned beep codes and that if there were none, it's most likely a fried motherboard. Can anyone else confirm this? ~Corey Best way to confirm a dead board in any case is those POST diagnosis cards. They have a dual-digit LED output that changes depending on the signal on the wire. If at any time those dual-digit LEDs stay permanently on anything OTHER THAN 00 is a failed POST. If it fails before it gets a shot at testing RAM or anything, there may be no beep codes. Always good to have one in a toolkit. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Aloha, If it shuts off as described check for a power supply that tests ok but is NOT compatible with the motherboard. Many high end mobo's need a power supply that feeds a steady current. The component detection on the better mobos will shut the board down if it is not the quality tolerance it likes. We just experienced this here two weeks ago with all new components and the supplier of the components replaced the brand new Power Supply with a better quality one at their expense and the box works fine now. This was a mother board that was not cheap. My wife needed to upgrade for video editing etc. The supplier said they had this problem with several of the better boards. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Also have a dead box [ WAS: Re: OT: dead box ]
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 10:38 +, Frank Shute wrote: On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 02:05:49AM -0500, Corey John Bukolt wrote: On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:23:34 + (06:23 CDT) Chris Whitehouse wrote: When you press the power button does the cpu fan or the power supply fan spin for a moment then stop? That's a sign that something on or plugged in to the motherboard has blown. Unplug things and test again. Chris Just a few days ago, I was helping a friend build a system (with all brand new components, I might add) and we had this very problem. After sticking in the CPU and RAM and hooking up and turning on the PSU, the green LED on the motherboard turns on. However, the second the power button is pressed, everything flashes for a second, then turns back off. The green LED on the motherboard also remains on. The only way to get it to flash again is to turn off the PSU, wait, then turn it back on. We tried re-seating everything, to no avail. Reading this thread, someone else mentioned beep codes and that if there were none, it's most likely a fried motherboard. Can anyone else confirm this? Did you have a monitor attached? Anything posted to the screen? We did have a monitor attached, only the system stays running for less then a second, not even enough time for the monitor to turn on. My nephew had similar symptoms and it was because his heatsink on his CPU wasn't seated properly. The system would boot like yours but then die. He managed to catch on the screen a message like CPU temp exceeded which clued him in. BTW, your Reply to: is different from your From: which is confusing. From: is the address for automated emails from my mailserver and relaying my personal email (I have a dynamic IP). I don't want any automated emails directly attached to my personal address in the Reply To:, hence multiple accounts. I blindly assumed that clients/people would just use Reply To: and ignore From: but I can see that's not the case. I'll have to fix that so that there is only one address. Apologies for the confusion. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Also have a dead box [ WAS: Re: OT: dead box ]
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 06:57 -0600, Tim Judd wrote: On 3/23/10, Corey John Bukolt ruinermailchuc...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:23:34 + (06:23 CDT) Chris Whitehouse wrote: When you press the power button does the cpu fan or the power supply fan spin for a moment then stop? That's a sign that something on or plugged in to the motherboard has blown. Unplug things and test again. Chris Just a few days ago, I was helping a friend build a system (with all brand new components, I might add) and we had this very problem. After sticking in the CPU and RAM and hooking up and turning on the PSU, the green LED on the motherboard turns on. However, the second the power button is pressed, everything flashes for a second, then turns back off. The green LED on the motherboard also remains on. The only way to get it to flash again is to turn off the PSU, wait, then turn it back on. We tried re-seating everything, to no avail. Reading this thread, someone else mentioned beep codes and that if there were none, it's most likely a fried motherboard. Can anyone else confirm this? ~Corey Best way to confirm a dead board in any case is those POST diagnosis cards. They have a dual-digit LED output that changes depending on the signal on the wire. If at any time those dual-digit LEDs stay permanently on anything OTHER THAN 00 is a failed POST. If it fails before it gets a shot at testing RAM or anything, there may be no beep codes. Always good to have one in a toolkit. So that's what those damn things were for..I have three rack mounted servers sitting in my basement and they each have an on board dual digit readout. I figured they had something to do with the BIOS, but I was just too lazy to find out. ;) Learn something new everyday. Thanks for the advice, I'm going shopping for one right now. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re : OT: dead box
My brother has got the same case : Antec Sonata II. It has been delivred with the power supply. The power supply has exploded capacitors on the mobo (Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe). The LED on the mobo was lightening up but we can't power up the workstation. For your problem, I suggest you to see if this LED is lightening up or not. If not, you can replace it. If yes, you might test with another one. After that, the mobo could have been take a blow. A CPU or RAM problem is reported by the mobo with a sound (BIP). I hope this could help you. Alexandre. --- En date de : Dim 21.3.10, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk a écrit : De: Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk Objet: OT: dead box À: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Dimanche 21 mars 2010, 10h11 Sorry if this is a bit off-topic. I came in the other day to find my workstation powered off. Hitting the power on button had no effect as did using another known working outlet. I checked all the cables and they seem attached. I thought my power supply must have died so I got another, screwed it in and again no joy - no sign of life. Anybody got any ideas what the problem may be? I'm thinking possibly the power on switch but that seems a long shot and there seems no easy way to replace it. My hardware: Antec Sonata case. Gigabyte board. Core 2 duo TIA, Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: dead box
The easiest way to check if its the power switch is detach the PWR switch connector from the mobo and briefly short the two pins. If the machine turns on its ure switch, however that is probably unlikely - Ive never seen it before at least. Check ure mobo for popped caps,... remove ure ram and cpu and clean all relevant connectors with compressed air. Disconnect everything not needed for the mobo to power up while ure at it. I had a workstation the other day that had a dead HDD that was preventing it from powering up, as soon as I removed the HDD the mobo powered up. On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: Sorry if this is a bit off-topic. I came in the other day to find my workstation powered off. Hitting the power on button had no effect as did using another known working outlet. I checked all the cables and they seem attached. I thought my power supply must have died so I got another, screwed it in and again no joy - no sign of life. Anybody got any ideas what the problem may be? I'm thinking possibly the power on switch but that seems a long shot and there seems no easy way to replace it. My hardware: Antec Sonata case. Gigabyte board. Core 2 duo TIA, Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: dead box
Frank Shute wrote: Sorry if this is a bit off-topic. I came in the other day to find my workstation powered off. Hitting the power on button had no effect as did using another known working outlet. I checked all the cables and they seem attached. I thought my power supply must have died so I got another, screwed it in and again no joy - no sign of life. Anybody got any ideas what the problem may be? I'm thinking possibly the power on switch but that seems a long shot and there seems no easy way to replace it. My hardware: Antec Sonata case. Gigabyte board. Core 2 duo TIA, Regards, When you press the power button does the cpu fan or the power supply fan spin for a moment then stop? That's a sign that something on or plugged in to the motherboard has blown. Unplug things and test again. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: dead box
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:23:34AM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Frank Shute wrote: Sorry if this is a bit off-topic. I came in the other day to find my workstation powered off. Hitting the power on button had no effect as did using another known working outlet. I checked all the cables and they seem attached. I thought my power supply must have died so I got another, screwed it in and again no joy - no sign of life. Anybody got any ideas what the problem may be? I'm thinking possibly the power on switch but that seems a long shot and there seems no easy way to replace it. My hardware: Antec Sonata case. Gigabyte board. Core 2 duo TIA, Regards, When you press the power button does the cpu fan or the power supply fan spin for a moment then stop? That's a sign that something on or plugged in to the motherboard has blown. Unplug things and test again. When I hit the power button I get nothing. None of the fans spin up and there's no sign of life. I'm beginning to think that I might be in for a new motherboard anyway :( Why do these things strike when you least need them? Damn Murphy and his stinking law! Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: dead box
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: Sorry if this is a bit off-topic. I came in the other day to find my workstation powered off. Hitting the power on button had no effect as did using another known working outlet. I checked all the cables and they seem attached. I thought my power supply must have died so I got another, screwed it in and again no joy - no sign of life. Anybody got any ideas what the problem may be? I'm thinking possibly the power on switch but that seems a long shot and there seems no easy way to replace it. I had this happen recently (BTW it was FBSD server ;-) )! I took _everything_ appart, and then assembled it little by little checking at each step. Incredibly it just workd after reseating the CPU, RAM, and re-connecting every single component. Also, I swapped components with a similar machine for testing which will help you test the components on a known-working machine. Good luck, Alejandro Imass My hardware: Antec Sonata case. Gigabyte board. Core 2 duo TIA, Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: dead box
Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk writes: When I hit the power button I get nothing. None of the fans spin up and there's no sign of life. Well, that's not a *good* sign... ;-) I'm beginning to think that I might be in for a new motherboard anyway :( I think you can safely conclude it isn't an OS problem, at any rate. Don't try a new motherboard yet, though. If the system is critical and you're really desperate to get it back up ASAP, I'd go with a whole brand-new system. That's to protect against the possibility that the motherboard isn't the source of the problem, in which case you could waste time fixing the wrong thing, and possibly even damage a new motherboard before you recognize the real problem. If you can afford a little more time to isolate the trouble, try disconnecting the power to the motherboard to make sure the power supply starts up (I think someone else suggested this earlier, albeit for a slightly more likely set of symptoms). If not, and if you have a multimeter, make sure that there's voltage across the switch, and that there isn't when the switch closes. Why do these things strike when you least need them? Damn Murphy and his stinking law! Murphy never said anything about *when* things go wrong... Sorry if I've gone overboard in following your jocular tone. I realize that you might be feeling desperate by now, particularly if the machine really is critical. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: dead box
On March 21, 2010 08:24:15 am Frank Shute wrote: On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:23:34AM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Frank Shute wrote: Sorry if this is a bit off-topic. I came in the other day to find my workstation powered off. Hitting the power on button had no effect as did using another known working outlet. I checked all the cables and they seem attached. I thought my power supply must have died so I got another, screwed it in and again no joy - no sign of life. Anybody got any ideas what the problem may be? I'm thinking possibly the power on switch but that seems a long shot and there seems no easy way to replace it. My hardware: Antec Sonata case. Gigabyte board. Core 2 duo TIA, Regards, When you press the power button does the cpu fan or the power supply fan spin for a moment then stop? That's a sign that something on or plugged in to the motherboard has blown. Unplug things and test again. When I hit the power button I get nothing. None of the fans spin up and there's no sign of life. I'm beginning to think that I might be in for a new motherboard anyway :( Why do these things strike when you least need them? Damn Murphy and his stinking law! Regards, It sounds more like a dead power supply to me, if there is no sign of any activity at all. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: dead box
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 09:08:44AM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk writes: When I hit the power button I get nothing. None of the fans spin up and there's no sign of life. Well, that's not a *good* sign... ;-) I'm beginning to think that I might be in for a new motherboard anyway :( I think you can safely conclude it isn't an OS problem, at any rate. Yep. FreeBSD doesn't even have a chance to get going! Don't try a new motherboard yet, though. If the system is critical and you're really desperate to get it back up ASAP, I'd go with a whole brand-new system. That's to protect against the possibility that the motherboard isn't the source of the problem, in which case you could waste time fixing the wrong thing, and possibly even damage a new motherboard before you recognize the real problem. No, it's not critical. I run 2 machines nowadays, the other tentatively a server but I keep X and associated progs on it up to date for scenarios like the present. If you can afford a little more time to isolate the trouble, try disconnecting the power to the motherboard to make sure the power supply starts up (I think someone else suggested this earlier, albeit for a slightly more likely set of symptoms). If not, and if you have a multimeter, make sure that there's voltage across the switch, and that there isn't when the switch closes. The power supply should be good but the switch is a possibility so I'll test that. Why do these things strike when you least need them? Damn Murphy and his stinking law! Murphy never said anything about *when* things go wrong... But the swine said they *would* go wrong...;) Sorry if I've gone overboard in following your jocular tone. I realize that you might be feeling desperate by now, particularly if the machine really is critical. As I say, it's not critical but I'd like to get it going. There is always a bit of data on it which is missing on the server and besides that it's the machine that's tweaked to my preferences. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: dead box
On Sun 21 Mar 2010 at 11:26:55 PDT Frank Shute wrote: On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 09:08:44AM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Murphy never said anything about *when* things go wrong... But the swine said they *would* go wrong...;) Hey, don't shoot the messenger! On second thought, perhaps that would be an object lesson for Mr. Murphy, to let him know that sometimes things will go unexpectedly and undeservedly wrong for him too. ;-) Here's hoping your machine is easily and cheaply recoverable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: dead box
Alejandro Imass wrote: On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: Sorry if this is a bit off-topic. I came in the other day to find my workstation powered off. Hitting the power on button had no effect as did using another known working outlet. I checked all the cables and they seem attached. I thought my power supply must have died so I got another, screwed it in and again no joy - no sign of life. Anybody got any ideas what the problem may be? I'm thinking possibly the power on switch but that seems a long shot and there seems no easy way to replace it. I had this happen recently (BTW it was FBSD server ;-) )! I took _everything_ appart, and then assembled it little by little checking at each step. Incredibly it just workd after reseating the CPU, RAM, and re-connecting every single component. Also, I swapped components with a similar machine for testing which will help you test the components on a known-working machine. Good luck, Alejandro Imass My hardware: Antec Sonata case. Gigabyte board. Core 2 duo TIA, Regards, -- Aloha, Like Alejandro did two weeks ago I replaced a mobo that acted the same way. I took the old board apart one device at a time and it remained dead until I removed the CPU and and reseated it and up she came. This desktop is in an un-airconditioned house here in Hawaii and we get cool nights in the Winter months and warm days. Components walk out of the sockets I think from the temperature changes and corrosion from the tropic air. You may want to see if this is the problem. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: dead box
Anybody got any ideas what the problem may be? I'm thinking possibly the power on switch but that seems a long shot and there seems no easy way to replace it. Check if teh power on button is not stucked in the pushed position, it happens on old cases that the plastic get old and dusty and the putton will not pop out as it should. And I came to some mother board that would not start is if the power button is pushed while the power cable is pluged in. Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: dead box
Anybody got any ideas what the problem may be? I'm thinking possibly the power on switch but that seems a long shot and there seems no easy way to replace it. In the process of dis-assembling the machine and re-assembling is, you may want to use a rubber to clean the contacts on the RAM and various boards. I use one of those white rubbers for pencil, remeber to remove the dust before you put the card in the machine. While assembling the CPU do not forget the thermo paste between the CPU and the heat skin, do not over use it, a thin layer is enough. You can check the CPU by shorting the light green and light blue wires from the main connector (that would be 2nd and 4th from one end; but colour are always light green 2nd and light blue 4th so far I have seen), see if the fan on the power unit turn on. Be carefull, while this is only 2 or 3 volts, your are delaing with a unit connected to the main power. paper clip is a good way to do the test. Good luck, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: dead box
No sounds (beeps) no cpu fan no lights? At 06:00 p.m. 21/03/2010, you wrote: Anybody got any ideas what the problem may be? I'm thinking possibly the power on switch but that seems a long shot and there seems no easy way to replace it. In the process of dis-assembling the machine and re-assembling is, you may want to use a rubber to clean the contacts on the RAM and various boards. I use one of those white rubbers for pencil, remeber to remove the dust before you put the card in the machine. While assembling the CPU do not forget the thermo paste between the CPU and the heat skin, do not over use it, a thin layer is enough. You can check the CPU by shorting the light green and light blue wires from the main connector (that would be 2nd and 4th from one end; but colour are always light green 2nd and light blue 4th so far I have seen), see if the fan on the power unit turn on. Be carefull, while this is only 2 or 3 volts, your are delaing with a unit connected to the main power. paper clip is a good way to do the test. Good luck, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
