Re: [Freedos-devel] usbdos.zip missing from usbdosx.zip
If I could port curl over to freedos, I would. I think curl was ported a long time ago. In fact it's listed on the cURL website. I would normally assume Blair has this: http://sites.google.com/site/blairdude/ ...but instead he only has updated clamav :-) You can also check delorie.com for DJGPP ports. Eric -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] usbdos.zip missing from usbdosx.zip
I looked at the files in the usbdosx.zip and it tried to unzip a usbdos.zip which doesn't exist in the packages. where is it? nobody can do any USB without it. I unzipped usbdosx.zip and all there is is some nonworking install.bat files and a .txt file. useless. Since the USB drivers available at the time the package was created could not be redistributed, the package simply contained an install script which would download the drivers from the internet. If you don't have a network card configured for FreeDOS, or don't have wget installed, the package is indeed useless -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Current Version Files
http://www.freedos.org/cgi-bin/lsm.cgi?mode=lsmlsm=util/fdav.lsm And I cannot find the file. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/ The directory is http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/clamav/ . per the freedos lsm webpage I am assuming it would be fdav.zip or similar. if it has changed I was going to package as I did not see it on. http://fdupdate.grumpy-server.net/ http://fdupdate.grumpy-server.net/wip/ If this is already done, not named what I am expecting it to be or if it is kept somewhere else. I did find http://blairdude.googlepages.com/fdav and I am wondering if it is the same as Clam AntiVirus 0.92 No. FDAV is a msav-like frontend currently built on libclamav 0.95. Clam Anti-Virus 0.95 is available as a separate pacakge, and both packages depend on clamdb to provide the actual virus database. thanks, usul -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Current Version Files
- all 1.0 packages in fdpkg format thrown on one big pile and taken from the 1.0 distro Those are here: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/pkgs/ - various packages in more-or-less fdpkg format sorted nicely by category which is probably what Usul saw The latter are sometimes as sorted by the author, just for mirroring them, sometimes the author already put them into almost FDPKG format... but for some reason we never seem to keep specially packaged for FDPKG / FDUPDATE style ZIP files at any easy to find location, alas :-!. Of course the 1.0 big pile of packages is easy to find for SOME people, but: It is ONLY the exact 1.0 versions, no updates since then. And: It is only 8.3 file names and everything in one very big directory so you typically do not easily find that file in that directory with google. Maybe we could put FDPKG/FDUPDATE-packaged zips of the current versions on ibiblio, too, not only into the repository of FDUPDATE? Of course we might have to mark the packages to make clear that they are not as in the original arrangement as they were on their own homepages. Eric -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Current Version Files
When I am reviewing current files to check to see if there has been a change and I find a current file (1.0) that is not in the correct format should I redo it in the correct format? Which packages are you talking about? Oh btw, when I released 1.0 I used a shell script to auto-package the packages once I had the directories set up. Probably faster if you're interested. usul -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Projects in need of a maintainer?
There are many programs with no development ongoing. - DOSLFN - Arachne - FreeDOS installer IMHO the FreeDOS installer should really be re-written. It was never really designed to be able to manage packages properly and such. - 4dos 4DOS is maintained. - freecom FreeCOM I have worked on in the past and I have done some modifications here that I have not released. If anyone else wants to develop it they should get a copy of the changes I have made (like xms-like-disk-swapping without external utilities). - tridos (multitasking, not a freedos packet but interesting, licence unclear (free?), http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.TripleDOS) - freedos kernel - ... Perhaps it's more easy to make a list where development is ongoing? -mr Bruce Axtens schrieb: G'day everyone, Is there a list of projects and maintainers anywhere? What projects are currently without a developer / maintainer? Kind regards, Bruce. P.S. If this has already been covered in that long thread about volunteering, my embarrassed apologies in advance. -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Eric
Is there any single package that you know of that is 100% the way you want it? If so can you link it so I can get started. :) That's probably more my area of expertise, since I designed the package management system. I might re-write the system which stores files related to each package, but for now the package specs are at http://wiki.fdos.org/Main/FDPKG -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Volunteering - gui, libraries, drivers
Blair has been working on alternative C libraries, for example for almost-drop-in-LFN (long file name) support or for making compiled apps smaller by compiling with a smaller C library. I have the impression that this could use some careful proofreading to improve stability... Yeah I spent a long time writing that :-). All public-domain, ~90% from scratch, mostly working. Some parts of the library are buggy, but I think if there's enough interest I could release the portion that deals with lfn support as it seems to be quite stable. On that note, some functions seem less buggy on dosemu for some reason than NTVDM. Also functions like printf and scanf are much smaller than their OpenWatcom equivalents. Other than the bugs though, it's a very complete C library and includes many POSIX functions and utitlities that OpenWatcom does not by default provide. (I even implemented aio.h just for an experiment :-) ) Fdisk, Undelete, Defrag and a Scandisk-based-on-dosfsck which Blair might be working on at the moment... Yeah maybe I'll start tomorrow. -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Volunteering - Arachne
- 32 bit DPMI would be better. Not necessarily. Some applications even run dual-mode (RM or 16-bit PM) so even 16-bit has it's advantages. The 64 KiB code segment limit is the only real disadvantage. (Or are code segments with 16-bit default operation size not actually limited to 64 KiB?) I agree that 32-bit DPMI is better because 32-bit is more common and people with 286s are highly unlikely to be browsing the internet with a graphical browser (if at all). And in 16-bit code code segments IIRC don't have to be limited to 64kb; for example if you were using a compiler that supported huge pointers, it would generate function calls to increment a pointer if you try to access anything 64kb in one memory block, but that could considerable slow down an application and of course the generated code size would be much bigger. An application utilizing huge pointers could potentially access 1 MB of memory IIRC. Regards, Christian -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Volunteering
What could you do? You would need to stop using FreeDOS as it *probable* contains illegal stuff. On the other hand you have *no way* to confirm whenever it's the truth or not. Was MS-DOS even written in C? if not, at least the parts written in C (most) could never have been copied and pasted. Everyone trying to find out whenever it is the truth or not will violate itself the law. Isn't this absurd? -mr -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Volunteering
I used to organize all the system files in a system directory. and the apps in an app directory under C: instead of under the system directory. C:\FDOS all the command programs here C:\Apps all the applications under here grouped in directories like games, develop, utility etc. If you move things from c:\fdos, you won't be able to use fdpkg to manage your packages anymore; it is arranged somewhat more closely to a unix directory tree than a ms-dos one (e.g. bin, doc, appinfo, help directories as opposed to throwing all DOS-related files in c:\dos like msdos did). fdpkg installs all applications in %DOSDIR%. If it didn't, it would need to do work to find one package in one directory, another package in another directory, etc... -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] building freedos
That does indeed sound a bit exotic. Note that userland of FreeDOS contains quite a few DJGPP (GNU C for DOS) based apps. DJGPP can also be compiled as a cross-compiler, so DJGPP apps could even be compiled in native linux. Another option is to pass commands to a dos-based compiler through dosemu in a terminal. That is how parts of OpenWatcom are compiled (because source code for wgml I think is not available and only DOS and OS/2 binaries are available). There is likely a way to write a binfmt script to run dos-apps through dosemu. Note that autoexec.bat needs to support this though. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Clamav 0.95 Port
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Blair Campbell blaird...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I'm announcing a port of Clamav 0.95 to DOS. The patch I used to compile it is in the main clamav source distribution in contrib/DJGPP. For this release I have separated clamavx.zip into clamavx.zip and clamdbx.zip. Packages are available at http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/system/clamav as clamavx.zip, clamavs.zip, and clamdbx.zip Sorry the URL is wrong :-) It's http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/clamav/ Enjoy -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] FDAV 0.2
Hi. Finally the follow-up to FDAV 0.1 :-). The TUI was re-written from scratch (it's now based on newt) and now includes a file/directory selection dialog and a mostly-complete help-viewer (press F1). I need to complete the help file though :-). Progress dialogs during scanning now work properly. I would consider this beta-quality. Please test. Read about it at http://blairdude.googlepages.com/fdav and get back to me with feedback. Oh and there's now a 'Cancel' button you can press to stop the scanning. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Clamav 0.95 Port
Hi I'm announcing a port of Clamav 0.95 to DOS. The patch I used to compile it is in the main clamav source distribution in contrib/DJGPP. For this release I have separated clamavx.zip into clamavx.zip and clamdbx.zip. Packages are available at http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/system/clamav as clamavx.zip, clamavs.zip, and clamdbx.zip Enjoy -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] building freedos
The problem for the Fedora Project is that the license used by OpenWatcom is not Free according to FSF. That means Fedora cannot use OpenWatcom, so the OP is asking for alternatives that might meet the FSF's standard. Some distributions have a non-free category. Does Fedora not have one? Even Debian has one IIRC. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Free-DOS help
2) After you boot you will never know which letter will be assigned to you CDROM, but you can find it in C:, D:, E:, etc.. in your AUTOEXEC by checking if some file exists No, you CAN know which letter will be assigned; just use SHSUCDX /D:Driver name,Drive Letter to use -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] GPM for DOS 0.3
I'm happy to announce GPM for DJGPP version 0.3; A bugfix release to support libnewt's gpm usage; fixed a bug where libnewt's test program would hang because of multiple Gpm_Open/Gpm_Close calls. It's available at: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/libs/gpm/dos_gpm-0.3.zip Enjoy. -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Whiptail 0.52.10
Announcing a port of Whiptail 0.52.10 to DOS. Whiptail is a dialog-like utility to draw TUI dialogs and collect user input (most of the options supported are dialog-compatible). Mouse support is included via dos_gpm 0.3, and the binary is much smaller than dialog, although not as many options are supported. The source package includes libnewt sources (depends on libslang). The sources and binaries are uploaded to: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/menu/ as wptailx.zip (binary) and wptails.zip (source) -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] GPM for DOS 0.3
Update: I just fixed a few more bugs after testing in pure DOS and uploaded dos_gpm-0.3.1.zip to the same folder On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Blair Campbell blaird...@gmail.com wrote: I'm happy to announce GPM for DJGPP version 0.3; A bugfix release to support libnewt's gpm usage; fixed a bug where libnewt's test program would hang because of multiple Gpm_Open/Gpm_Close calls. It's available at: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/libs/gpm/dos_gpm-0.3.zip Enjoy. -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Fwd: [Freedos-kernel] Error compiling ...
You can cast a short to an int, an the conversion in ok, but to cast a short* to an int* will bring in 2 extra bytes and an INVALID POINTER... no short * and int * are the exact same size in 16-bit compilers (try compiling a test program which prints sizeof(int), sizeof(short). For some reason openwatcom thinks it's an error. -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] GPM for DJGPP 0.2
I'm happy to announce GPM for DJGPP version 0.2; mostly a bugfix release to 0.1, which fixes the problem where the mouse support would be incorrect in modes other than 80x25 and also sets environment variables to tell ncurses to use the library for supported terminals. It's available at: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/libs/gpm/dos_gpm-0.2.zip Enjoy. -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Dialog 1.1 for DOS
Just announcing that I've uploaded my port of Dialog 1.1 for DOS to ibiblio. It is compiled with ncurses and gpm, so it supports mouse. For those of you unfamiliar with it, Dialog is a popular program in unix for adding a TUI interface to shell scripts. The sources and binaries are uploaded to: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/menu/ as dialogx.zip (binary) and dialogs.zip (source) -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Ncurses 5.7 port for DJGPP
Hi.. Just announcing that I've uploaded ncurses 5.7 compiled with DJGPP. I modified the terminfo for DJGPP and added a monochrome scheme, and compiled in mouse support with my libgpm-emulation library. Sources and binaries are available at: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/libs/ncurses/ -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FDAV 0.1
Cool! Looks nice, why have you choosen ncurses? :-) Because in the future it may be portable to more systems. It doesn't find the signature files (*.cvd). How can I tell FDAV where it is (path and copying doesn't work)? The signature files should be in %DOSDIR%\lib -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FDAV 0.1
Ah...thanks. I have never used %DOSDIR% ... could you write it into help screen for other people like me? :-) Yeah. It's required for use with fdpkg so usually it's set up. I could also have it look for the database in other places if not found in %DOSDIR%\lib -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FDAV 0.1
Where to get pre-compiled dialog or ncurses libraries for DJGPP? I'll upload them soon -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] FDAV 0.1
Hi. Just announcing an MSAV-like TUI I wrote for libclamav. This is mostly a preview version. Some features are missing, but I've tested it in a few environments and I've found that it works. So if anyone wants to give me feedback, feel free. Eventually it should have a help-file viewer, and a file/directory selection dialog. The source and binary packages are available at: www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/ in fdavs.zip (source) and fdavx.zip (binary). To build the sources you will need dialog, ncurses, and clamav installed in your DJGPP-installation. And to install the the binary package you should first uninstall clamavx if you have it installed as it uses the same database files. Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] GPM for DJGPP
I'm just announcing that I've written a small gpm-semi-compatible library that implements enough functionality for GNU ncurses and libraries like dialog that depend on that. It's available at: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/libs/gpm/dos_gpm.zip I can send a demo dialog.exe compiled with it to anyone interested. In addition to make install, you will also have to copy keyboard.h to /dev/env/DJDIR/include/linux to get ncurses to compile with it. I only implemented the functions and events that ncurses uses because that is the only thing I wanted it for now. It implements some features of Gpm_Open, Gpm_Close, and Gpm_GetEvent. The events GPM_DOWN and GPM_UP are supported. Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] OpenWatcom 1.8RC1
Just in case nobody's noticed yet, it looks like OpenWatcom 1.0RC1 is available as of this month. Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] OpenWatcom 1.8RC1
No DOS version, anyone know if someone plans to make one available on their own? Usually they include the DOS host binaries wth the windows and OS/2 installers, which can be opened with any unzipper. They haven't made a DOS-installer ever as far as I know because the code is broken. That may be hard, though - source code to 1.8RC will not be released. They've announced source will be available only with the full 1.8 release. -jh -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] compiling freedos
Why not just use dosemu to compile in linux? Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Warren Turkal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't use a batch file in my Linux environment. Therefore, I have to write some script to compile it. I will look closer at the batch file and see about the XCPU setting. wt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Geraldo Netto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Warren, How are you doing there? i'm pretty newbie to confirm it, but i think you **should** use a bat called make.bat or something like that... afaik, xcpu(for 8086 and 386) is also configured in this batch See Ya, Geraldo São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ msn: geraldo_boca_at_hotmail.com skype: geraldo-netto icq: 145-061-456 2008/11/11 Warren Turkal [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, I am messing around with compiling Freedos. I checked out the lasted code from the Subversion repo, and I am working on Linux. It seems there is no build system for Linux so I am trying to discover some things. Here's an example of something failing: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/projects/dos_stuff/freedos_src/blah/kernel$ nasm asmsupt.asm segs.inc:34: error: symbol `XCPU' not defined before use segs.inc:41: error: parser: instruction expected segs.inc:42: error: symbol `group' redefined segs.inc:42: error: parser: instruction expected segs.inc:43: error: symbol `group' redefined segs.inc:43: error: parser: instruction expected segs.inc:48: error: symbol `group' redefined segs.inc:48: error: parser: instruction expected segs.inc:49: error: symbol `group' redefined segs.inc:49: error: parser: instruction expected segs.inc:50: error: symbol `group' redefined segs.inc:50: error: parser: instruction expected I have some questions. Is there any reason to be defining XCPU anymore? It seems that nasm has supported CPU for a long, long time. Also, does anyone know why the group instructions don't seem to be working? Thanks, wt - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems
Has Anybody looked up dmsdosfs? It is a linux filesystem driver that can access quite a few different compressed dos filesystems like drivespace and doublespace. Perhaps an implementation could be derived from its source code. On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Imre, Well, I think that a seperate partition with a compressed file system and a block driver would be the best option. I agree about the block driver, but I believe a file would be more flexible than a partition. Once you compress a partition, you would otherwise have to shrink it to make use of the gain. This would need partition table modifications... Too much work for a simple system :-). What I had in mind was more something like: Compress a partition or ramdisk in-place, then copy the result to a file and format the partition or ramdisk again, to get an uncompressed filesystem again. You can store the compressed filesystem file on that partition or at another place then :-). At the time doublespace/stacker were released, people were not intended to have many partitions on there drive. But with linux requiring a multiple of partitions, it is proven that people would lower there standards and settle for multiple partitions anyway. Linux does not need multiple partitions. You can have everything on one partition and you can even use a swapfile instead of a swap partition. Yet I personally recently recommended a scheme of root, dos, swap, usr, home to a friend, because his BIOS could only boot from the first 8 GB of his 160 GB disk, so it made sense to put the first 3 partitions in that area (swap is useful for some hibernate schemes, possibly using the BIOS). This would be the fastest, most straight forward way of doing it. As often with computers, there are many ways, also many good ones :-). Eric - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] How to create alternative shell
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Marco Achury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a newby question. I would like to write an alternative interpreter command to replace command.com/Freecom. I don't think that this is as easy as it seems. If you don't want your shell to waste tons of low memory, you will have to write it to swap to disk or xms, which requires decent skill in assembler. Currently I am slowly working on FreeCOM still, and I have implemented built-in disk-swapping. I think it would be a much easier task to clean up existing FreeCOM code. I have basic programming knowledge. I'm clear that I must to provide a replacement for all internal commands. Can I simply write my program in my favorite language, compile as stand alone .exe and rename it as command.com? There is something else I must to know? -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Marco A. Achury Caracas, Venezuela www.geocities.com/marcoachury - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Directory structure proposition
I think that we should have a directory for configuration files and/or data files used by different applications (for example, doslfn has several table files that really shouldn't IMHO be in BIN. That way the BIN directory can be as uncluttered as possible. Also, in FreeDOS 1.1 I would like to see DOSLFN in base and it should be possible to unzip long filenames with the installer. -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Directory structure proposition
Nod. But then you'd need to prolly rewrite a lot of base to support LFNs... and unzip too... Not rewrite; recompile. But at the same time I didn't mean it would be a requirement for base apps to support lfns. -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS bugzilla
I would rather use bugzilla than the sf.net tracker On Jan 29, 2008 4:40 PM, Aitor Santamaría [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/1/30, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since Eric and tassilo have identified the free web hosting for FreeDOS bugzilla, and since Eric has volunteered to install the new FreeDOS bugzilla, migrate the existing data, and do any ongoing maintenance - so I think we have a winner! :-) Erm, Eric, no offense, but could you please state publicaly the criterion you will choose to decide to migrate/not to migrate each bug to bug tracker, if it is other than *I* like it or *I* believe it is not trully a bug? Aitor - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS directory standard (1.1?)
On Jan 8, 2008 5:59 AM, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/8/08, Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Antony, In FreeDOS 1.1 (or whatever) once the directories are finalized, a system variable can be declared in the OS (at the master environment level) like in Windows NT/2000/XP called SYSTEMROOT. On my Windows machine it's C:\WINDOWS. For FreeDOS it can be C:\FDOS. Then the other This is already the case. The installer puts a set ...=... in the config or autoexec which does indeed point to c:\fdos if you use the default install target directory :-). But once in the native environment, I don't know that we set a variable to point to C:\FDOS. I know we have a PATH, HELPPATH, ... but I don't think we have: SET DOS=C:\FDOS Yes, it is called DOSDIR, and fdpkg cannot function without it. I'm trying to remember if MSDOS does this, but my MSDOS books are packed away. I think it did set a DOS environment variable, probably starting in MSDOS 5.0. -jh - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] ctorrent-ng Port Now Available
Now available are: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/user/torrents.zip (source) http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/user/torrentx.zip (binary) which are untested DJGPP ports of ctorrent-ng. IOW, users MAY be able to use this to utilize BitTorrent file sharing in DOS. Testers with Internet available in FreeDOS would be greatly appreciated (and then feedback is important of course). -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS directory standard (1.1?)
LIB for libraries. We never really defined a lib before because FreeDOS doesn't support the shared-library model, and developers used different compilers which may not be able to share each others' *.lib files. But if we need it, then a LIB directory is a good place for it. I like the idea of a standard LIB directory for developers installing supplementary libraries or replacement C libraries, like my own. The installer could automatically add this directory to the LIB path for compilers like OW. Also, INCLUDE would be good for the same reason. INCLUDE would be a good place for any *.h files that are associated with the libraries in LIB. But I don't think I'd put them under LIB. This should be a top-level directory. -jh - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] simple freedos 1.1 installer please / 1.0 overview
I will dedicate my time now to developing a new FreeDOS installer, one which will be easy, fully functional, and not necessarily make everybody happy - that is just impossible here, but it will be good to go. I will keep you all updated as progress commences. The actual installer (TEXTINST) should be fine as-is IMHO. The install process I don't think should be re-written, but rather simplified, as Eric suggests. And I think it would be easier for me to do the simplification when I am preparing the 1.1 distro so that I am still familiar with how it works. Not to discourage contribution, but I don't want extra work being done. -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] looking for freedos webspace and more
I think googlepages gives you 100 MB On 10/12/07, Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, my current homepage is about to expire, so I am looking for a new place to store my stuff. The page is less than 100 MB, of which maybe 1/4 DOS and 1/4 pics. Hosting the DOS stuff has priority, but I would like to have a bit of space for my personal homepage as well. The page should be hosted in Europe and should be reachable by scp. If it was possible to store mail there, in a spam-filtered way, it would be even better. I would also need a 2nd email address or some sort of sort-filter to put freedos mailing list mails into a separate mail folder. Mail access should be possible in a secure way (imap-ssl, pop3-ssl, ssh and pine, something similar...) and of course it should be possible to send mail as well. Solutions which help with either the mail or the webspace are very welcome, but solutions which do both categories at the same time are even better :-). If you have helpful ideas for my expire problem, please let me know. Thanks :-). Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] lfn in freecom?
AFAIK, this was added long before I touched the FreeCOM source, but yes it should be in the help. Unfortunately, I have no way to access CVS right now On 9/20/07, Imre Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Blair Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag, september 18, 2007 11:18 PM Aan: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] lfn in freecom? Use dir /lfn to get long filename directory listings. Also, dir.c should use lfn findfirst so that dir 123456789 will work. That's an undocumented feature then, because the option is not listed under dir /? help screen. Imre - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] lfn in freecom?
Use dir /lfn to get long filename directory listings. Also, dir.c should use lfn findfirst so that dir 123456789 will work. On 9/18/07, Imre Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Eric Auer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag, september 17, 2007 09:03 PM Aan: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] lfn in freecom? Hi Imre, Does anybody know what the status is of long file name support in freecom. There is absolutely a compile time option you can use, but does it work (well)? FreeCOM 0.84 arguably has far too many changes with far too little review (compared to 0.82pl3) but those changes do mean that it has LFN support all over the place and this LFN support is also compiled into the default binary used in FreeDOS 1.0 :-). If you want to do some testing: Try if both doslfn and shsucdxes cdrom-lfn work okay, and try if FreeCOM works okay in situations where some drives have LFN and others have not. For example in dosemu, you can enable LFN for the virtual / redirect / Linux directory based drives, without loading doslfn for the FAT / diskimage drives, or vice versa :-). Everybody else is invited to test, too. I think you can SET LFN=N (or Y) to dynamically block and re-enable the built-in LFN support of FreeCOM 0.84 ... Well if it is in freecom 0.84 pre 2 then it realy does seem to do something, when setting LFN=Y. Which is consistent with djgpp compiled binaries. But if I do md 1234567890, I get a directory that is called 123456~1 when I do dir. So it isn't quite working for the dir command. This is something I might be looking into next then. I wanted to have LFN support for an idea that I had. Also it might no be so difficult to get: attrib find move more replace xcopy sort tree to have lfn support through the io95 library. With: diskcopy chkdsk defrag recover already supporting lfn's most of FreeDOS should then have full lfn support. But then there are quite some commands written in assembly so I would not like to change those. Something which definitely does need testing: Sometimes FreeCOM 0.84 just stops running external commands (opening com / exe / ...) while internal commands like DIR keep working. Nobody has yet found a way to force this bug to trigger, but when it happens, the only way to get out of the situation is to reboot, so we should really fix it. I have been working with 0.84 pre 2 for well over a year now, and I have not found a problem with external commands not being executed. Imre Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] lfn in freecom?
On 9/18/07, Imre Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Eric Auer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag, september 17, 2007 09:03 PM Aan: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] lfn in freecom? Hi Imre, Does anybody know what the status is of long file name support in freecom. There is absolutely a compile time option you can use, but does it work (well)? FreeCOM 0.84 arguably has far too many changes with far too little review (compared to 0.82pl3) but those changes do mean that it has LFN support all over the place and this LFN support is also compiled into the default binary used in FreeDOS 1.0 :-). If you want to do some testing: Try if both doslfn and shsucdxes cdrom-lfn work okay, and try if FreeCOM works okay in situations where some drives have LFN and others have not. For example in dosemu, you can enable LFN for the virtual / redirect / Linux directory based drives, without loading doslfn for the FAT / diskimage drives, or vice versa :-). Everybody else is invited to test, too. I think you can SET LFN=N (or Y) to dynamically block and re-enable the built-in LFN support of FreeCOM 0.84 ... Well if it is in freecom 0.84 pre 2 then it realy does seem to do something, when setting LFN=Y. Which is consistent with djgpp compiled binaries. But if I do md 1234567890, I get a directory that is called 123456~1 when I do dir. So it isn't quite working for the dir command. This is something I might be looking into next then. I wanted to have LFN support for an idea that I had. Also it might no be so difficult to get: attrib find move more replace xcopy sort tree to have lfn support through the io95 library. With: diskcopy chkdsk defrag recover already supporting lfn's most of FreeDOS should then have full lfn support. But then there are quite some commands written in assembly so I would not like to change those. Something which definitely does need testing: Sometimes FreeCOM 0.84 just stops running external commands (opening com / exe / ...) while internal commands like DIR keep working. Nobody has yet found a way to force this bug to trigger, but when it happens, the only way to get out of the situation is to reboot, so we should really fix it. I have been working with 0.84 pre 2 for well over a year now, and I have not found a problem with external commands not being executed. I have encountered it once or twice but it is more or less as difficult to get as the context out of memory error (also in previous versions). Perhaps they are both caused by a memory leak somewhere? Imre Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Come visit EDR-DOS sites!
On 3/29/07, Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alain: I am very interested and in fact I have done just this a couple of times. The FreeDOS installer installs a LOT more than I need to run my DOS programs. It also doesn't allow control of the destination partition. I would use a current, single-floppy FreeDOS distribution. Then you must not be using the latest version Maybe we need to get together and make one! Thanks. Mark Bailey Alain M. wrote: In fact I made my own distro. It's a single floppy, single language and install exactly where MS-DOS did: in C:\DOS Some time ago, I tried to talk about that kind of distro, but every one wanted a big, too-full, graphic, and I don't know what... so I made my own, it even has a nice menu in a .bat file with very few options ;-) Is anyone interested? Alain Eric Auer escreveu: Hi Alain, intall a full system from bare metal in half an hour by phone, with an *unskilled* operator? Then our floppy distro(s) really need you. People do not think that FreeDOS is particularily easy to use I would say. For example some descript.ion files for my 3 disk distro would be helpful ;-). That distro is generally outdated, though. Did you try Balder yet? Or do you want to try Rugxulos distro? Eric - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] CLIB Progress
Soon I should release a new version of my CLIB. It is now mostly complete with tests and I can successfully compile xcopy, move and attrib with little source code changes. Those three programs, after being compiled with my clib, are then capable of working with DJGPP-syle symlinks and long filenames. Soon, I hope to add more FreeDOS programs to my repertoire. PS: I now have a complete scanf family of functions, all functions that accept filenames can understand symlinks and filenames as intended, and there are many new functions as well. The largely missing piece of my CLIB is a complete CONIO implementation. The source code is there, but much of it is broken. Soon that should be fixed. -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] FD-CLIB updated (I guess I could call this 0.2 - beta)
This update (available at www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/libs/clib/fdclib.zip) contains many updates making the public domain clib much more stable and useable. Almost everything is working now but the crucial things I am still missing include *scanf and startup code. (For now, one can simply allow the compiler to link in its default startup code). Enjoy. -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Text adventures
Seal is not in the distro because there are very few useful programs written for it, and it in my experience is highly unstable compared to GEM or even FloX's OzoneGUI (which both have much better file managers than SEAL imho as well). On 12/21/06, Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Blair, Markku, there is a simple solution for your problem: Add the games to the DOS GAMES distro on bootablecd.de :-) That distro contains both open and closed source games. The normal FreeDOS distro focuses more on non-game categories anyway. By the way, yesterday we found out that the SEAL desktop works in DOSEMU only at 8- and (if you have 24- or 32-bit colors in X) 32-bit colors but not usually at the default 16-bit... Two things to be learned from this: 1. It works while it does not work at first glance and 2. why is there no SEAL in our distro? Its 2 MB. Eric In if-archive there are also open-source games not included, eg. Adventure (precedessor of Zork 1-3), Colossal Cave, etc. Also many text adventure development systems like TADS, Inform, Hugo, Agility/Magx etc are open-source and compiled under DOS. in /ifarchive/games/source and /if-archive/programming is a lot of open-source projects. ... Nethack is already in FreeDOS 1.0. Also, I prefer not to include shareware/free-closed-source games, but to promote open-source DOS games in the distro instead. Nethack is open-source. ... I wonder nobody has suggested text adventures as one of FreeDOS games. There is good place http://www.ifarchive.org ... - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Text adventures
Nethack is already in FreeDOS 1.0. Also, I prefer not to include shareware/free-closed-source games, but to promote open-source DOS games in the distro instead. Nethack is open-source. On 12/19/06, Markku Yli-Pentila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I wonder nobody has suggested text adventures as one of FreeDOS games. There is good place http://www.ifarchive.org where text adventures - free and shareware) can be found. There is also a lot of text adventure making systems. At least for blind these are best DOS games that can be played. regards Markku -- -- Markku Yli-Pentila, ? www: http://www.kauhajoki.fi/markkuyp/ tai (or) http://markkuyp.kauhajoki.fi puh/tel: 06-2311354 / 0400 819088 CD:n tilaus: http://www.kauhajoki.fi/markkuyp/tilaus/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Read and write symlinks with new routines and utility
I just made some functions and a utility to read and write DJGPP-style hard and symbolic links. They are an extension on the already released clib and attempt to provide 100% POSIX compatibility. The functions related are link(), symlink(), and readlink(). The utility included is a 100% POSIX-conforming LN utility (POSIX only requires the -f and -s options, and my version includes two extended options, -v and -p, -v to be verbose and -p to use full paths with source files). The next step of course is to integrate the routines into other utilites, in due time. Symlinks are especially useful because you can have more than one name for a file and only 510 bytes extra on the hard drive. Perhaps eventually similary functionality could be included in the kernel to automatically resolve symbolic links. :-) Anyways, the zip is at: www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/libs/links/link.zip Enjoy! -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] dos64
Yes but speedwise I am saying that it isn't very practical if you expect to run 16-bit apps on a 64-bit OS, if not impossible without complete CPU emulation. On 11/23/06, Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tom ehlert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tom E: as far as I know FreeDOS works great on AMD64 no need for such a (completely empty) project ... FreeDOS is 16-bit os, FreeDOS-32 is 32-bit os and this project is not called FreeDOS but some other DOS and seems to be about a 64-bit DOS-like os. Just to compare, regular version of Windows XP is 32-bit os and there is also experimental 64-bit version of available. You will find 32-bit FreeDOS project here: http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/ Lester - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] dos64
Just curious; would this run real-mode DOS applications? If so, as far as I understand this would be extremely slow because you have to switch 64bit-32bit-16bit-32bit-64bit. On 11/21/06, Владимир [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, freedos-devel. I have created project DOS64. If somebody will interest, take part. http://sourceforge.net/projects/dos64 -- Vladimir [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] I would like to contribute (a bit)
Did you use the 8086 version of FreeCOM? And the 8086 version of the kernel? On 11/14/06, Edouard Forler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, First of all, let me congratulate all of you for all the work done on FreeDOS. It's great. I've just subscribed to the devel mailing list because I would like to contribute, well, as a matter of fact I will not be able to contribute much but I can offer my help with the testing and debugging. I'm a senior software engineer with more than 15 years of programming experience on PCs, however I don't have much time for programming now, sadly. I'm 32 and live in Geneva, Switzerland. I decided to say hello because of a FAQ saying that FreeDOS can run on an XT, but (quote) I don't know for a fact that anyone has booted it on an XT for quite a while ... if only because no one probably has one anymore. Well, huh, I've got one and, better than that, I still develop some software on it and for it. Yes, it runs at 4.77 MHz and has only 640 Ko of RAM, with a 20 Mb hard drive and 51/4 floppies (oh, I also do have a P4-3GHz, don't worry). So this evening, I decided to try and boot FreeDOS 1.0 on my old friend. And I ran into many troubles, the bottom line being that it did not even boot. I would like to share my experience as well as having your feeling about it. I am ready to contribute to Bugzilla and test as much as needed if this helps to improve FreeDOS. However, as mentioned above, I don't have the time to have a look at the code and contribute more deeply, which I regret. As I don't want to interfere, please let me know if you are interested in this rather funny and enjoyable experiment (even if it failed) :-) Cheers, Edouard. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] 4DOS released as open source software
Hi. Not to be a party pooper, but why not use OW + _WASM_ as WASM is closer to MASM than NASM... On 11/13/06, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are like me, you have used (or are using) the 4DOS command shell. 4DOS was my favorite DOS app. Back in the day, my DOS development system was guaranteed to have at least one C compiler, a cool editor for writing code, and a copy of 4DOS to make the command line easier to use. I still run a copy of 4DOS on my FreeDOS system. Some of you have asked about 4DOS, and Rex Conn (JP Software, creator of 4DOS) had previously agreed to release 4DOS 7.50 as unsupported freeware in August 2004. Recently, I approached Rex to ask if he would release 4DOS under an open source license. Rex agreed! On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 14:53 -0500, Rex Conn wrote: Hi Jim: [...] I'm enclosing a zip of the 4DOS source as of version 7.50 (the final version). I've removed the non-DOS code from the source, though I haven't tried compiling it (I don't have the MSVC 1.51 compiler anymore, nor the MASM assembler). The only restrictions I'd put on the source code is that it not be used for an OS other than FreeDOS or any commercial products without my permission. Rex Conn JP Software The source to 4DOS (less a few non-DOS things) is now available from ibiblio, distributed under a modified MIT license (the additions are mentioned in Rex's email, above.) See the readme.txt in the zip file for the license terms, also in each *.c, *.h, and *.asm source file. This will require some work to compile, especially if you want to use OpenWatcom and NASM instead of the original MSVC and MASM. However, since the source is now available for FreeDOS developers, feel free to make the changes necessary to get it to compile. The new zip file archive is labeled 7.50.1 to distinguish itself from the previous 7.50 release. Find it at: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/user/4dos/7.50.1/4dos7501.zip I'm really glad that Rex was able to release 4DOS as open source software. This is a big step. HUGE THANKS to Rex! :-) -jh - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Int 21/AX=71A6h
How hard would it be for FreeDOS to support Int 21/AX=71A6h? (Get file information from handle) This would be very beneficial because it allows an easy way to implement a complete fstat function for C programs. In most clibs, the fstat function is usually incomplete, filling in only as many fields as possible using the usual dos interrupts, but in DJGPP, to obtain as much unix-compatibility as possible, it is forced to use undocumented and difficult tricks to get the filename associated with the handle, only then filling in the appropriate fields. DOSLFN does not currently support this function, and long filename support is not really a prerequisite. -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?
On 11/2/06, Bernd Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blair Campbell schreef: He meant the OpenWatcom package that is supplied with FreeDOS 1.0, but I don't know what that has to do with config.bat What I mean is that the kernel sources (if installed by FreeDOS 1.0.0) use a file named config.bat to indicate compiler settings. Also, FreeDOS 1.0.0 can install OpenWatcom. As computers are here to make our lives easier, does the FreeDOS installation proces, when both these programs (OW, Kernel sources) are installed, also configure the config.bat file in the kernel sources directory? If it doesn't It's like installing FreeDOS files and not making a config.sys/autoexec.bat, also letting the fresh dos user in the cold. So nice if a basic FreeDOS install would be able to download and compile new sources from the internet by default :) I see it completely opposite, sorry. If a person is willing to compile a kernel themselves, they should expect to have to do some configuration manually. Just like when I compile my own linux kernels, I can spend up to an hour on config alone. (because I don't use defaults :-)). And if a person just wants default kernel behavior, I see no reason to compile a kernel at all; just use the one in the distro. IIRC there is a CVS client for DOS, but I might have to find it. ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2gnu as stated on http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/showdoc.php?page=howto-cvs ? Oh, and btw everyone, the latest FreeCOM changes have been in CVS for _months_... Other than on the FreeDOS 1.0.0 CD, where can I normally download the exact sourcecode/docs/binaries as files? No formal releases of 2036 nor 0.84-final do exist to my knowledge. Do http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/pkgs/; count as the official releases (kernels, sysx, commandx, commands) ? Yes And while playing World of Warcraft, lost track of which kernel sources are built by fdos.org as well. They are out of date extrememly AFAIK. Enjoy the weekend after a 60hr work week :) Bernd - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?
On 11/2/06, Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! 2-Ноя-2006 19:49 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: BB Also I'm curious if installing OpenWatcom from FreeDOS 1.0 configures BB the config.bat, OW doesn't presents DOS installer. If you wrote own installer, you may update there anything. He meant the OpenWatcom package that is supplied with FreeDOS 1.0, but I don't know what that has to do with config.bat BB and optionally a file for getting BB the CVS contents from internet (if there are daily builds there, or DOS BB has a CVS client?) Unfortunately, not hear about such beasties. There is not much clients even for Windows. :( IIRC there is a CVS client for DOS, but I might have to find it. Oh, and btw everyone, the latest FreeCOM changes have been in CVS for _months_... - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Kernel 2036 bugs?
I have a bug for 2036 and 2037: SUBST never works properly (and the problems associated seem to be different wherever I test them). On 10/30/06, Alain M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had this conversation with Eric: Alain Do you know a list of bugs/limitations of 2036? Eric if you find some, let me know, then i can look in 2037 for the corresponding bugfixes. [...] Does anyone have a list of 2036 bugs? Alain - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] packages for dosemu-freedos.
The stable kernel is in sysx.zip -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Boot CD (Round 2)
ISOLinux works fine on my P133 PC here, which is about as old as CD-booting goes, so ISOLinux does *not* have issues with old hardware, only *certain* hardware. On 10/9/06, TG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the absent-minded among us that forget to eject said CD when the install is finished. - Original Message - From: Alain M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Boot CD (Round 2) Why is it important to be able to boot from harddrive *after* booting from CD??? I have never seen it in *any* CD so I can hardly understand how it can be so important... As for boot options, let me give my 2cents: - Philosophicaly, FreeDOS should boot with FreeDOS ;-) - If isolinux does not work on old machines, how can it be a good choice after all so many talks about old machines here? Alain TG escreveu: Well, I thought about the issue of not being able to choose to boot from the hard drive with the CD installed. When I googled it, JO.SYS and a free version of JO.SYS written by Bart (of BartPE fame) came up in the results. So perhaps in keeping with the partnering with other free source projects, perhaps we can create a 'FreeDOS JO.SYS' based on some of the code from ISOLINUX to allow boot selection of the CD or hard disk. I bet I'm probably beating a dead horse, but like in another post I read on this topic, ISOLINUX doesn't work with certain BIOSes and this alternative may be a good option. -T One of the beauties of free software as that we can borrow - Original Message - From: Bernd Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Boot CD (Round 2) TG schreef: Well, I played a little more with the boot CD, I have a rescue image that it boots from, using SHSU ramdisk to load a FDBOOT.IMG and set that image so there is TEMP space... I haven't started connecting the boot CD to the FreeDOS setup program, but so far it looks good... If anyone wants a copy of the work 'in progress' let me know. What's the benefit of your method other than easier usage in for example Nero Burning Rom? You seem to have a CD now that uses direct floppy emulation, and the floppy contains a kernel, shell, a ramdisk driver, and cdrom access. Connecting CD to the setup process is easy, just be sure to let your bootdisk part (config.sys) have a shell line that includes the /F parameter, as it's used by the CD to determine if a FAT partition has been formatted or not. Direct floppy emulation might have slightly more compatibility with various computer BIOS than the non-emulation mode used by Isolinux. However you loose a lot of flexibility, like deciding to boot from harddisk or floppy instead of cdrom (which you can do once at the isolinux prompt). There might be slighly more traps involved in using the FreeDOS CD, I still gotta make a small list of issues and proposals on how to solve them. Meanwhile, enjoy FreeDOS and hopefully we can start working on a 1.01 version in the next weeks as we now got a base platform to work from - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Boot CD (Round 2)
I don't see a purpose in circumventing ISOLinux, and I don't see any future distribution not using ISOLinux. On 10/7/06, TG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I played a little more with the boot CD, I have a rescue image that it boots from, using SHSU ramdisk to load a FDBOOT.IMG and set that image so there is TEMP space... I haven't started connecting the boot CD to the FreeDOS setup program, but so far it looks good... If anyone wants a copy of the work 'in progress' let me know. -T I finally understand the true value of time, for it is the bonds between us that give time its meaning. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Boot CD Question
On 10/3/06, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the secret to the read only image would be to create a ram disk and set temp there, copy a few files. Microsoft uses RAMDISK. This would allow the creation of temporary files as well as provide a storage for frequently accessed DOS commands, since CD is slower than RAM. I did some searching and noticed that FreeDOS is without a ram disk program, I am going to try FreeDOS ships with shsurdrv. SRDISK. It just became GPLd as of version 2.09 and has some very good features like being resizable and using EMS or XMS... -T - Original Message - From: Blair Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Boot CD Question ISOLinux is just a CD-ROM bootloader that actually allows booting from CD-ROM. All of the actual loadup stuff is done in FreeDOS. The NERO booting feature (IIRC) makes the boot image read-only and does not copy it into memory like ISOLinux does. For the boot process to work, however, the boot image needs to be read-write. So ISOLinux is really the best choice. Plus, I don't use Windows, so Nero is a problem for the distro maintainer. On 10/3/06, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Now I know most of us have a Windows machine with a legitimate copy of Nero or maybe even a freeware ISO making utility so I was wondering... Why hasn't anyone made a boot CD that boots using FreeDOS instead of ISOLINUX? Don't get me wrong, I like ISOLINUX just fine, but in retrospect, why not boot straight from the OS that will be installed, especially since it can run live...the whole base CD is what, maybe 8 MB, so theoretically one could get a live FreeDOS CD that not only could install the OS, but could run one of many free GUI (depending on the memory/capacity of the host system) Thoughts? Comments? Concerns? -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] LFN and IO95
The clib-extension will eventually be part of OpenWatcom; it is already in Perforce as we speak. On 10/4/06, Alain M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blair Campbell escreveu: Note that IO95 has an issue with Win2k bugs. IOW, creating a file with IO95 on Win2k will result in unpredictable results (Win2k _always_ returns file handle 2 even if the next available handle is 5). Blair Campbell escreveu: With the clib extension I am working on, long filenames will be supported, and with entirely 8086 code. So it is not necessary to switch to DJGPP to get long filename support. Does it mean that you are working on something to replace IO95 as long as LFN are concerned, easyer to use and with fewer bugs? Alain - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] djgpp
Note that IO95 has an issue with Win2k bugs. IOW, creating a file with IO95 on Win2k will result in unpredictable results (Win2k _always_ returns file handle 2 even if the next available handle is 5). On 10/3/06, Imre Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Alain M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 2, 2006 07:05 PM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] djgpp Isn't there a stdio95.lib or something that's GPL and provides the LFN stuff? What would really help is a tutorial or example of how to use STDIO95 for FreeDOS utilities, just like there is one for CATS. I attached the readme for io95, seems easy enough. If you define USE_IO95, then the io95 functions should be accessable through the c-library functions. Somebody ought to try wether this is doable in practice. Imre Then the compiler issue should be just ... another issue. The real hard fact is that changing a compiler is hard work and most mantainers will not want to do it. Specially djgpp that has problems with far pointers. Alain - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] djgpp
FreeDOS should never become an entirely 32-bit OS IMHO. FreeDOS-32 is working on a 32-bit DOS. If the utilities CAN compile as 32-bit, that is great, but 16-bit apps tend to be much smaller for most uses, and for utilities like TSRs, it is virtually impossible for them to be 32-bit. With utilities like FIND, you can do everything in just a couple of kb, whereas with DJGPP, the same app would likely be up to 300-500 kb. On 9/30/06, TG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm...lets see... FreeDOS compiled with DJGPP... The OS can boot the same way, the go32 extender can be added to all the executables to run in protected mode on 386 and higher machines (386 is the baseline for LFN anyways, right), so basically the installer would have to do a processor check as follows: If CPU 386 install FreeDOS Classic (real mode version) else install FreDOS/XM (real mode boot, DPMI utilities) FreeDOS/XM could be rewritten totally in protected mode, but then real mode subsystem would have to be written to allow real mode apps to run. I'm sure someone (like me) is gonna run Norton Editor 1.3 on FreeDOS/XM and we all know about NE's fast screen writes (I've seen snow on many a CGA monitor)... Well there are my thoughts, but what happens with FreeDOS/32 and ReactOS? -T --- Original Message - From: Lyrical Nanoha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] djgpp On Sat, 30 Sep 2006, Joris van Rantwijk wrote: On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 11:48:35AM +, Imre Leber wrote: After having an extensive private chat with Eric. I was wondering what the overall interest of the project would be to move the FreeDOS utilities to a DJGPP based platform. Does this imply that FreeDOS would become a 32-bit OS and that the utilities would no longer work on a real (16-bit) IBM PC? Since such plans have come up several times lately, I would like to emphasize the following thing: For me, a FreeDOS that does not properly run on a real PC is utterly useless. In fact I think it would be ridiculous to make a 386-only system and calling it XxxDOS, since all versions of the real DOS do run on original PC hardware. Sometimes these concerns are waved away with the argument that pre-386 systems are not used anymore except by hobbyists. My reply to that is that FreeDOS itself is not used by anybody except hobbyists. Kicking out everybody with old hardware and emulators sounds like a bad move. Joris. DR-DOS still works on an 8086. ROM-DOS works on an 80186 (but not an 8086). I think even RxDOS will run on an 8086, but its compatibility leaves much to be desired. If FreeDOS were to go 386-only... then someone might fork it to keep it 8086-compatible. -uso. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Boot CD Question
ISOLinux is just a CD-ROM bootloader that actually allows booting from CD-ROM. All of the actual loadup stuff is done in FreeDOS. The NERO booting feature (IIRC) makes the boot image read-only and does not copy it into memory like ISOLinux does. For the boot process to work, however, the boot image needs to be read-write. So ISOLinux is really the best choice. Plus, I don't use Windows, so Nero is a problem for the distro maintainer. On 10/3/06, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Now I know most of us have a Windows machine with a legitimate copy of Nero or maybe even a freeware ISO making utility so I was wondering... Why hasn't anyone made a boot CD that boots using FreeDOS instead of ISOLINUX? Don't get me wrong, I like ISOLINUX just fine, but in retrospect, why not boot straight from the OS that will be installed, especially since it can run live...the whole base CD is what, maybe 8 MB, so theoretically one could get a live FreeDOS CD that not only could install the OS, but could run one of many free GUI (depending on the memory/capacity of the host system) Thoughts? Comments? Concerns? -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] djgpp
With the clib extension I am working on, long filenames will be supported, and with entirely 8086 code. So it is not necessary to switch to DJGPP to get long filename support. On 10/1/06, Johnson Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 12:36:21 +0200 (CEST), you wrote: Hi, Fully ACK! As PM apps tend to be much larger than their 8086 counterpart, FreeDOS would waste a lot of memory without a benefit. In my humble opinion, the road is clear. Keep the good old DOS traditional external command 8086 compatible if possible, actually most of the basic command still not 386 optimized even MS-DOS 6.22 was released. People enjoy the 386 or Pentium power can search for other 3rd party software like QEMM, Norton, PCTools ...etc. We have a lot of programmers here can develop excellent software to enhance DOS, no matter djgpp or DOS extender is not a problem. But is it really necessary to change the basic command to 386? I did enjoy Norton's Safe Format and PCTools Disk Optimizer, but I still keep a copy of FORMAT and DEFRAG though I did never like them. Follow the Occam's Razor, the answer is simple and straigh forward. Rgds, Johnson. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Boot CD Question
360kb On 10/3/06, Lyrical Nanoha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, Tony wrote: Hi all, Now I know most of us have a Windows machine with a legitimate copy of Nero or maybe even a freeware ISO making utility so I was wondering... Why hasn't anyone made a boot CD that boots using FreeDOS instead of ISOLINUX? Don't get me wrong, I like ISOLINUX just fine, but in retrospect, why not boot straight from the OS that will be installed, especially since it can run live...the whole base CD is what, maybe 8 MB, so theoretically one could get a live FreeDOS CD that not only could install the OS, but could run one of many free GUI (depending on the memory/capacity of the host system) Thoughts? Comments? Concerns? My own experiments into making boot CDs uses the boot floppy emulation approach. How small a floppy can contain everything needed to bootstrap a CD? I don't know but mine are always 1.44 MB -uso. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] overdoing 32bitness of freedos 1.0 - was: djgpp
Actually LFNs are availalbe wherever an LFN driver is loaded. And a 386 is not required. On 10/1/06, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would think that only the utilities that need to use protected mode, a DOS extender, or VCPI would be written using DJGPP or in 32-bit code...at the moment, I can't really think of a utility that would...perhaps maybe a task switcher written with a DOS extender that utilizes VCPI to multitask DOS applications... LFN support, from what I noticed about Win95/98 was only available while in Windows, which is why I thought a 386 or higher was needed. If you booted safe mode Command prompt only or restarted to MS-DOS, you could not use the LFN (in the sense that you couldn't specify them on the command line) but the utilities that came with Win95/98 could preserve the filename. Since Microsoft has released Virtual PC for free on their site I already have DOS 6.22 loaded, I am downloading the FreeDOS 1.0 ISO and I am setting up a VM for Windows 95 (4.00.950) so that I can test somethings out. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Operation
Get well soon On 9/21/06, Imre Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In two weeks from now I need to do an operation. Because of this i am in a lot of pain. Therefore I might have said some things to certain people that I should not have said. I think it is best for me to stay away from the list until I can again function in a normal fashion. Imre - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] INT 21h, AX=43FFh
I see that the RBIL says that MS-DOS 7.20 supports this interrupt. I am all for FreeDOS supporting this interrupt. What do other people think? PS: I've tested in MS-DOS 7.1 (without any drivers loaded), and this interrupt functions as expected; the 7.20 thing in the RBIL is probably a typo. -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] defrag 1.2
dosfsck is 32-bit. Defrag could be too (especially a version which supports FAT32). On 9/16/06, Imre Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What doesn't stop to amaze me is that this project is so completely oposed to anything 32bit. But when it comes down to it you all complain that things don't work on GIGA disks which are so incredibely over spec of anything DOS was ever designed to do. Imre -Original Message- From: Florian Xaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 01:37 PM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] [anounce] defrag 1.2 Hi, I tested version 1.2.1 I geht the same error (FAT32, ~35GB). With drivers and without ANY (even without XMS driver). bye Flo - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Compiler group?
I would expect Turbo PASCAL, but he never said for certain. On 9/15/06, Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! 14-Сен-2006 19:13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: BC I know for a fact that the OpenWatcom project BC would welcome a PASCAL frontend to their toolset. Welcome?! Who says you so? Michal definitely will not spend its time to support and distribute this thing. BC Actuall, Mical HIMSELF said so, on IRC, that he would even write the BC frontend himself if he had enough spare time. And he mentioned that BC on the newsgroup once as well. Frontend for which dialect he expect? Standard Pascal? Extended Pascal? Turbo Pascal? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] 32 bit
I personally much prefer Debian, which is free in every form, easy to install, and easy to use. On 9/15/06, Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! 15-Сен-2006 15:35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alain M.) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: Well i strongly prefer reactos in that case, because i don't want to pay more money to novell (the same company mentioned above) for using linux then to microsoft for using windows. AM You don have to pay Novell for using Linux!!! Yes. In case of free(dom) software, you pay (or not) for _service_, not for program using. Feel the difference: MS sells you _license_, which gives you restricted rights to use their program(s) and you have no rights to use MS' programs without payment for license (for each instance of program); with Novell, you pay for media (compact disks, manuals, etc) and for service. Program (OS) itself you may download freely and use unlimited. AM And I don't even think AM that their's is a good choice ;-) Why? What wrong in SuSe Linux? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Compiler group?
FreePASCAL is only capable of producing 32-bit code, whether or not NASM is used (NASM also can use 386 assembler). On 9/15/06, Daniel Franzini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well...i'm not exactly an expert in the subject but i've noticed that freepascal suports nasm output...and nasm can generate 16bit code...not sure if it is 286 real or protected mode code, altough it seems to be real mode (i've seen people writing bootloaders with nasm) doesn't this fits the needs of a real mode modern compiler?!!?!?!? On 9/16/06, Blair Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would expect Turbo PASCAL, but he never said for certain. On 9/15/06, Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! 14-Сен-2006 19:13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: BC I know for a fact that the OpenWatcom project BC would welcome a PASCAL frontend to their toolset. Welcome?! Who says you so? Michal definitely will not spend its time to support and distribute this thing. BC Actuall, Mical HIMSELF said so, on IRC, that he would even write the BC frontend himself if he had enough spare time. And he mentioned that BC on the newsgroup once as well. Frontend for which dialect he expect? Standard Pascal? Extended Pascal? Turbo Pascal? -- Daniel Let us change our traditional attitude to the construction of programs. Instead of imagining that our main task is to instruct a computer what to do, let us concentrate rather on explaining to human beings what we want a computer to do. (Donald Knuth) Yes, technogeeks can be funny, even if only to each other. ( http://www.boogieonline.com/revolution/science/humor/) Man is driven to create; I know I really love to create things. And while I'm not good at painting, drawing, or music, I can write software. (Yukihiro Matsumoto, a.k.a. ``Matz'') -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Compiler group?
I think what we REALLY need is a free PASCAL compiler that can generate 16-bit code. I know for a fact that the OpenWatcom project would welcome a PASCAL frontend to their toolset. Any takers? On 9/14/06, Ladislav Lacina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, there are another two quite good BASIC compilers: Turbo Basic and Power Basic. You can both download from my site at: http://www.laaca.borec.cz/pascal.htm (The site is in czech and there is a big title pascal but don't panic - theese download links are at the bottom of page.) - Original Message - From: Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Compiler group? Hi Imre, Well I think what we are realy missing is a good BASIC compiler. Something like QuickBASIC. Free BASIC has something like that but that works only in 32 bit. As http://www.freebasic.net/index.php/about?section=diff shows, FreeBASIC is very close to QuickBASIC already. And 386+ PCs have been around for more than 15 years now. I hear that people think FreeDOS is obsolete because they no longer have computers OLD enough to run it. You should not support their point by putting much effort in writing 8086 software for FreeDOS today ;-). I would appreciate some FreeBASIC command line options to set default types (QB: single for variables, 16bit for INTEGER, FB: integer for variables, 32bit for INTEGER). That would make FreeBASIC (command line optionally!) behave even more like QuickBASIC, where appropriate. Automatic arrays for up to 10 elements are probably a bad idea, as are automatic declarations before CALL, but one could write a preprocessor to compile QB programs out of the box. Last but not least, padding of fixed length strings should probably have a command line simulate QB option as well... :-). FreeDOS can even run on the most modern PC with multi core multi CPU 64bit architecture and many GB of RAM, even though it will only use 1 core and 4 GB of RAM at most. And FreeDOS is useful for everything up to the most modern PC with a 32bit Linux kernel and DOSEMU running on it, or even higher, if you use a virtual PC in Win, Linux or MacOS. FreeDOS also makes sense on any PC which is too old for the current versions of Linux or Windows. Because if you have, say, only 128 MB RAM, the current versions of, say, KDE and WinXP will not run well. Combine that with older versions of Linux and Windows increasingly becoming unsupported software (I think SuSE has no distro with 2.4 kernel left in their current / supported versions any more), and you find why there is motivation to help people out with seemingly old software like outdated Linux and only DOS. Let's completely rewrite it so that it works in 16 bit real mode. Especially if we can hold all the tables in XMS. So that it requires a 386 and 4 to 8 Mb anyway. If you insist on 8086, improve BWBASIC. If you want real mode with XMS, you already want 286. And 286 is some half-life state between 8086 and the classic 386 architecture. Very small group of computers / users if you ask me. Protected mode itself is no problem at all for Basic as long as your PC is a 386 or newer, if you ask me. Eric - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
Re: [Freedos-devel] Compiler group?
On 9/14/06, Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! 14-Сен-2006 05:14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: BC I think what we REALLY need is a free PASCAL compiler that can BC generate 16-bit code. I think, Modula (which is superset of Pascal, if you mean Pascal, but not Turbo Pascal) is orders of magnitude better and advantegous alternative. BC I know for a fact that the OpenWatcom project BC would welcome a PASCAL frontend to their toolset. Welcome?! Who says you so? Michal definitely will not spend its time to support and distribute this thing. Actuall, Mical HIMSELF said so, on IRC, that he would even write the frontend himself if he had enough spare time. And he mentioned that on the newsgroup once as well. BC Any takers? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Compiler group?
If it helps, I've been writing a minimal CLIB mainly for OpenWatcom. It should't be t hard to port it to other compilers either. On 9/13/06, Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! 13-Сен-2006 19:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Pietsch) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: GP I was wondering if anyone wanted to form a compiler-writing group with GP the purpose of coming up with a C99 compiler that runs under FreeDOS. I What about OpenWatcom? Do you sure, that your experience and patience is enough to develop and maintain new compiler, which will not worser, than tons of existing ones? GP OpenWatcom is huge. So what? You prefer smaller compiler, but worser generated code and less functionality (both language and library)? GP You'd need a committee to maintain that. Any product need maintain. Why your suggested compiler will be better in this? The more so - OW _does_ (more or less) maintained, who will maintain your compiler? Especially, C and C++ are very ugly languages and there are much of dark places in their standards? GP And how do GP you know that a new compiler will be worse than the existing ones? Because writing good _and_ bugless optimizer is really not easy task. GP After much looking around, I've seen two types of open-source C GP compilers. The first type are monstrosities such as OpenWatcom and gcc. GP The second type are old compilers such as PCC and DeSmet and toy GP compilers that do not support C89, much less C99. And I don't think I've GP ever seen a preprocessor written using lexyacc/flexbison, which I GP thought was the right way to do it. Ok, if you think, new compiler should be written - go ahead. But not expect, that there will be much other contributors/maintainers for your program until it reaches some noticeably useful stage (at least, I not ready to participate in this project on earlier stages). And this is years of working to achieve this stage. GP If we can rig the code to something like NASM, FASM, Arrow ASM, or GP something like that, then we can just include that assembler project. GP The problem here is not technical but getting permissions. GPL does not requires to get any permissions to reuse GPLed code (while your derivative work is also GPLed). GP ACK has a GP table-driven assembler; I thought that was an interesting way to do it. For me, trouble is not that there is not enough free(dom) (and open sourced) assemblers, trouble that there are not much _good_ assemblers with much support for high level features (optimize for instructions, support of interfacing with HLL, HLL contructs like PROC, IF/ELSE, etc). - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] The show must go on
Of course, that could be changed in OW (if someone is willing to do the work). On 9/5/06, Japheth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will move it to openwatcom. This way it can be compiled for 386. This will probably double the speed, since everything is internally computed as 32bit. Not if you will use the OW 16-bit compiler (WCC). Although it has a switch optimize for 386, the generated code will not use 32bit registers. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS
Well, in the case of Windows, all of the work is part of the system dlls, so yes, in ReactOS, all a chkdsk needs to do is call those dlls, which doesn't take much code. On 9/5/06, Aitor Santamaría [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easy: just for going to the extreme, write a DOS API extension function that checks the drive passed as argument in BX. ;-) Anyway, I am of Eric's opinion: you cannot write a complete, good CHKDSK code in that few lines. Aitor 2006/9/5, Imre Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well i am still kind of im(/de)pressed that FreeDOS chkdsk has some 30 lines of code and that a chkdsk in reactos takes only about 100 lines. Imre -Original Message- From: Eric Auer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2006 12:56 PM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Hi Imre, nobody would complain if DEFRAG needed a 386 and XMS to do defragging on FAT32... Ever seen a FAT32 drive in a PC-XT...? And about Wine for DOS: Okay, with HXRT, you can even run some Windows programs in DOS, but if you have reasonably new hardware, you can equally well use ReactOS or Linux/Wine for that... DOS should rather be used for what DOS is good at :-). Eric They are wrong about reactos though. Building FreeDOS is WAY more difficult then building reactos. We had to defragment 80Gb on 8086 with 256 kb RAM. In reactos there is LOTS of memory and a very high code reuse. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Surprise!
Hey folks. If you check out the website, you may be in for a surprise. -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Surprise!
How did you run the installer? On 9/3/06, Daniel Verkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blair Campbell wrote: Hey folks. If you check out the website, you may be in for a surprise. Excellent work! However, in testing the base CD in Virtual PC 2004, I came across this problem during postinst.bat: Batchfile 'C:\FDOS\POSTINST.BAT' does not contain label 's4_801586'. I haven't yet figured out where the value for %cputype% is coming from - do you run a program that uses the CPUID instruction? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Surprise!
Strange that I cannot reproduce this (even on an i586, with real hardware). On 9/3/06, Daniel Verkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blair Campbell wrote: How did you run the installer? I booted from the CD, created a single 2GB primary partition using xfdisk, rebooted, formatted C:, and followed the defaults on the package selection screen. At this point, postinst.bat executed and produced this error. I tried the installation on a blank disk image and the same thing happened again. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Surprise!
Does the ISO I just re-uploaded work now? (I know, it's kinda cheating). On 9/3/06, Blair Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strange that I cannot reproduce this (even on an i586, with real hardware). On 9/3/06, Daniel Verkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blair Campbell wrote: How did you run the installer? I booted from the CD, created a single 2GB primary partition using xfdisk, rebooted, formatted C:, and followed the defaults on the package selection screen. At this point, postinst.bat executed and produced this error. I tried the installation on a blank disk image and the same thing happened again. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Surprise!
Here I am, I've spent about 5 hours slowly downloading the full version, getting just a few K per second, and right before it gets done, you go and replace it. I'm sorry, but I made it quite clear in the announcemet that the full ISOs were NOT ready yet. I would have annouced it if they were. That is your problem for taking the risk and knowing that they ISOs already on ibiblio could not quite be ready. -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Surprise!
Hey jackass, ... (you all know the rest) For future reference, I would greatly prefer that any obscenity or otherwise rude 'behavior' be directed solely at my private e-mail address, in order to prevent third parties from experiencing discomfort resulting from subscription to these mailing lists. PS: I usually ignore any unkind remarks in any case. -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] virtual environment
It works in Windows 98. On 8/30/06, Alain M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Arkady, These are the most important links about Qemu: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ http://www.h7.dion.ne.jp/~qemu-win/ and this is the binary for windows (5Mb) http://www.h6.dion.ne.jp/~kazuw/qemu-win/qemu-0.8.2-windows.zip But it does not say which version o Windows is required :( I am currently testing under XP Alain Andreas Bollhalder escreveu: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Arkady I can provide you an archive with QEmu and an image if you want. But I can not guarantie, that it works under Windows 9x, because I don't have a machine to access it. Andreas Arkady V.Belousov wrote: *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(r) Pro* Hi! May someone recommend me free virtual environment (qemu? bochs?), with which I may run FreeDOS under W9x? Me need: URL for download, hints for installation and configuration (especially if this is not automated) and hints for using (how to prepare FreeDOS to run inside emulator). - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE9bpskyKr2gmercERAjc/AJ90lrK2tiPofMEnW/Fy4UNjrvnargCgqoXO XJjVkaQ1352PitC31DVRx/g= =6mKj -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] MOVE 3.3A
Can someone please send this to me or tell me where this is uploaded (if it is uploaded) within the next hour or I won't have time to include it in 1.0. -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] freedos package spec problem: sources, binary, docs
I agree with Aitor. On 8/27/06, Aitor Santamaría [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two small notes: (1) The HELP file (for FASTHELP) is probably NOT required in the source package either (2) There are docs that are very specific to sources (e.g. how to build and such), that I myself usually don't pack under DOC, but under SRC\DOC, so that they are only installed with sources (I don't know if I'm doing it well). Aitor PS: Jim, I don't know if you read my message from private mail: I was just trying to ask you if you could allow or invite me to write to you private messages from this account of mine (gmail). I say this as I know your university seemed to have an ellaborate way of granting access to you ;-) 2006/8/28, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think you are referring to this mini-HOWTO: http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.Distribution Yes, I agree that the source package should contain everything short of the generated binaries. If there are dupe files, let them be overwritten. This mini-HOWTO needs to be updated to say that. -jh Eric Auer wrote: Hi all, Blair pointed me to the fact that source packages are not supposed to contain docs, according to our specs. I object that recommendation. In my opinion, source packages should contain everything outside the bin directory, and binary packages should contain everything outside the source directory. My reason for this recommendation is that end users should have all documentation and that all documen- tation in fact IS part of the source code. When we work on updating a program, it has to be sufficient to download ONLY the source package to create a new version of the full binary package. One might say that this wastes space in situations where you put both source and binary package zips in one directory. Well. Shit happens. Or if that is not acceptable, one could put MINIMAL SOURCE zip packages in that directory, containing ONLY the source directory contents. Along with a readme which tells that the source zips in that directory can only be used in combination with the binary zips. Source packages which are available via http should contain the full docs. This avoids two problems: - people would otherwise have to download the old exe even if they only wanted the docs, for example for creating derived versions of the sources - programmers would otherwise easily forget to update the docs or, even worse, the NLS files when they modify the source code An alternative solution for all the hassles might be to have the docs in a third zip. Then you would have to download 2 of 3 zips for development and 2 of 3 zips for using the program. And all 3 zips would have minimal size. If anybody cares for size of source packages. Still I would really prefer to have all docs in the source zips! After all, people usually download only the sources of SELECTED packages. And the open source idea tells me that the sources are the origins of the world, so it should not be necessary to download the binary package to understand the sources. Eric -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
Re: [Freedos-devel] freedos package spec problem: sources, binary, docs
I very much like the current spec and would wish to stick to it. I'm not going to go about changing the packaging scheme (especially for the distros). On 8/27/06, Lyrical Nanoha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Documentation is need for program using and should be included into binary package. Or, you may use triple-architecture: binary package (executables and other (data) files, which need for those executables), documentation package (user guides, help files, etc.), source package (sources and developer manuals/technotes). I would *personally* go with the three if feasible since it would be easier that way to make an extremely pared-down installation (such as my one-disk installations) by excluding all documentation - on the other hand it's not all that hard to exclude later if need be. -uso. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] TRUENAME doesn't remove trailing '\'
Maybe in other DOSes, the TRUENAME command in COMMAND.COM itself removes the trailing '\'. On 8/24/06, Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! 24-Авг-2006 20:13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego Rodriguez) wrote to freedos-devel freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: DR The truename dos function (int21h, ax=60h) under FreeDOS doesn't remove DR the trailing '\' in path: DR C:\TRUENAME FDOS\ DR C:\FDOS\ DR But DR/PC DOS always remove the trailing '\' DR C:\TRUENAME FDOS\ DR C:\FDOS DR Tested under FreeDOS 2.0.37 unstable Don't know how you test under DR/PC DOS, but what FreeCOM shows under MS-DOS: type test.bat @echo off md test truename test\ ver /r test ...\test\ FreeCom version 0.84-pre2 [Aug 23 2006 18:12:03] DOS version 7.10 So, you test or remember something wrong. And, FreeDOS kernel there not guilty. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] mem.exe crashes on 8086
1.9a3 is in FreeDOS 1.0, and it was contributed a long time ago by David O'Shea (don't know what happened to him though; he said he would be unavailable while moving IIRC, but that was a while ago). On 8/23/06, Imre Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Base list still shows: MEM 1.7 Bart Oldeman Jim should decide wether to take the 1.9 from that other side. Was it ever contributed? Maybe the author should be contacted. Imre -Original Message- From: Bernd Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 05:16 PM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] [bug] mem.exe crashes on 8086 Arkady V.Belousov schreef: Hi! 23-Авг-2006 07:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joris van Rantwijk) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: JvR MEM.EXE 1.9a2 seems to crash on a 8086. Where you get this version? CVS contains 1.6 (or is it 1.7? MEM_MINOR contains 7). http://wiki.fdos.org/Main/Mem points to: http://www.fdos.org/ripcord/beta9sr1/other/misc/mem19a2.zip http://www.employees.org/~doshea/freedos/tmp/ contains: http://www.employees.org/~doshea/freedos/tmp/mem19a3.zip -- Efficiency is intelligent lazyness - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] mem on xt
Hehe, I had a card for our 8088 that accelerated it to faster-than-286 speed according to the manual. I think it helped to accept the 286 instruction set as well. You could turn it on and off via a switch. On 8/23/06, Michael Devore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:25 PM 8/23/2006 -0500, I wrote: MD not make a difference. Does anybody here have an 8086 and can act as a MD test subject in a reasonable turn-around time frame? You yourself? Nope, I haven't had an 8086 in over a decade. Maybe two. Come to think of it, it wasn't an 8086 or an 8088. It was that super-duper upgrade chip: the semi-marvelous and hemi-magical V20. Claimed increase in performance from 8088: 30%. Real world increase: 5-10%. Oh well, I think it only cost about thirty bucks at the time. V20 probably tests out as an 80188 in the CPU routine, so it should fail with message as well the others, for anyone hanging on the NEC wonder chips of history. Same results as with a V30. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] command SET /A
SET /P is already implemented. On 8/22/06, Ladislav Lacina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that it would be great to add two new features from windowx 2000/XP dos console to FreeDOS Their command set has two new switches: set /a and set /p For more info look for example at this site: http://www.computerhope.com/sethlp.htm However according to Jim Hall recomendations it should be rather done after 1.0 release. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Kernel 2037 actually available
You should probably ask Eric for the changes :-) On 8/20/06, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blair Campbell wrote: Ok, I took the time to upload proper kernel pacakges to www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/ as kernel2037-binary.zip and kernel2037-source.zip Enjoy PS: They contain Eric's QB 4.0 compatibility fix. Thanks, Blair! The fdkernel.lsm file wasn't updated in this zip package, so I edited the version on www.freedos.org. I'd like to post a news item on the web site, but I'm not sure what changes to announce. Can you email me off-list with something that I can re-use as a news item? Thanks. -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Installing with singlestepping doesn't seem to work.
Singlestepping is not something that most people will be doing when installing 1.0. -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Translation status for FreeDOS components
Thanks Aitor. I will update it with the information I have. On 8/19/06, Aitor Santamaría [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have slightly modified the Translation status page as follows: http://wiki.fdos.org/Main/Translations Now you have for each tool wether it is translatable, and the different translation status (latest version translated) for each language. May I ask: DEVELOPERS: Please have a look at your tools, to see if the versions are OK, and you really have the translated files listed there. TRANSLATORS: Could you please check if there's work pending? That happens whenever the version listed in the Last version (EN) column and your language column differ. You may also want to add a new column if your language is not in the list. BLAIR: As a matter of reference, could you help me (either fill in yourself or pass the information to me) with the versions that are going inside the last CD-ROM? Of course, the information has been taken from the old page mainly, and I could have made mistakes. I'd be grateful for any inaccuracy correction. Thanks! Aitor - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Hopefully last testing distribution
The three 'hidden' options are the options that are available on the full distributions; for the livecd. I just didn't feel like making a whole new fdconfig.sys. On 8/19/06, Markus Laire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did a quick install in qemu and noticed only one problem: The first menu you get after booting from CD shows only 2 options, but allows you to select from 5 options. What are those 3 hidden options? Also, if Singlestepping is going to be buggy, perhaps that should be mentioned in this menu. = menu = # FreeDOS 1.0 Final (2006-July-30) INSTALLATION/LIVE CD # 1. Install to harddisk using FreeDOS SETUP (default) # # 2. FreeDOS Safe Mode (skip driver loading) # # FreeDOS is a trademark of Jim Hall MCMXCIV-MMIV Select from Menu [12345], or press [ENTER] (Selection=1) 0 Singlestepping (F8) is: OFF = menu = - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Compatibility EMM386/HIMEM 2.25 New Release
It's sad to see you leaving Michael, but thanks for all the wonderful work, and the humour along the way. The next maintainer has big shoes to fill :-). On 8/19/06, Michael Devore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uploaded to ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386/ are the files emmx225.zip, EMM386 2.25 and HIMEM version 3.25 memory manager, mostly executable files; and emms225.zip, source code files. This release of EMM386 and HIMEM works around a bug in some BIOS chips which affects HIMEM, improves compatibility with virtual environments and Ensemble/GEOS automatically without requiring manual addition of options, and adds an advanced NODISABLEA20 option to EMM386 by popular demand. Read on dear reader, if you dare... So that no one can feel neglected or ignored, I'm adding credits to each change remark. Per recent discussion in freedos-devel, there exists a BIOS which appears to corrupt stack values in a nasty way. HIMEM now works around this. All hail Tom Ehlert. The A20 BIOS test was also moved from its front of the line position to follow other tests since it's not 100% reliable. All hail Tom. All hail Norbert. EMM386's NOALTBOOT option is now the default. This doesn't change how it works, it just means it's always there unless you use ALTBOOT to inhibit it. The default change was made because several virtual environments would have horrible keyboarding problems such as missing, doubled, or case-switched keys unless NOALTBOOT was active -- Qemu and VMware, I'm looking at you. Also, Ensemble with GEOS required the option to not crash, now GEOS people don't have to remember to manually put it in their CONFIG. I don't think anything depends on the previous ALTBOOT default, so we should be fine. All hail Eric Auer and me. CR3 is explicitly forced to flush when using MMIO access outside of the standard memory address map. Frankly I'm not sure this is ever needed, but I can't prove it's not, and there may be a rare case where it's needed. Better safe than sorry. All hail Japheth. By multiple request, a NODISABLEA20 option was added to EMM386. It forces EMM386 to never allow A20 to be disabled via its global and local disable A20 routines. All hail Tom, Japheth, and Eric. Although addition of the new option is technically in violation of the hard freeze rules, I received a special dispensation from the Pope, umm, no that was Pope Leo X to the future Pope Clement VII. I keep mixing those Popes up with FreeDOS. OK, I received permission to add the option at this late date from one of the FreeDOS 1.0 release architects. Honestly and truly. For the impending FreeDOS 1.0 release, and the person without whom there would be no all hail's to deliver, all hail Jim Hall. Several times. In unison. On the good news front, I am semi-reliably informed via semi-reliable gossip that a new or greatly revised EMM386 model is being worked on. As it should be open source, it can easily serve as the next generation of EMM386 for FreeDOS, (effectively the 3.x already discussed) following a period of testing, stabilization, and user interaction. While the new EMM386 branch may have a different label, that should not be a big concern since FreeDOS has already had several private label changes for various base and support utilities, and the current EMM386 2.x has matured to its final feature set and code base (possibly with minor future tweaks). I feel certain that the developers will allow proper peer review and sustain appropriate mechanisms for bug reports and support feedback. As such, integration into the FreeDOS distribution at a future date should be relatively painless and welcomed by everyone. The future looks promising. Originally, I was going to sign-off the SourceForge lists and move to strictly e-mail consultations on HIMEM/EMM386 issues following release of the (presumed) final EMM386 2.x for FreeDOS 1.0, per all my previous remarks on retiring from this position, a new maintainer, and quest for a commune, but I decided that would be pretty foolish. I need to stick around for a week or so to make sure no catastrophic failures were somehow introduced, and that no new critical items such as the BIOS bug need to be addressed at the last minute. Plus, I'm still helping out a couple of people with issues that may be due to FreeDOS, memory managers, or something entirely different. So, you can't scrape me off the FreeDOS shoe quite yet. Soon, though. Let us all hope that the latest FreeDOS 1.0 test release, this addition, and everything else look so good that the final 1.0 release plans for the immediate future hold. PeaceLove, out. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based
