Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
Very impressive download countings! As this are the downloads from the "original" distribution only, there will be much more of them of other distributions like the very useful "z fend reloaded" framework for instance that coms with "embedded" FreeDOS out of the box. I love that all, and yes, if you lik to tell it that way, I AM a necromasturbator, Евгений Нежданов, please open your development for us all! jo elegolo Original-Nachricht > Datum: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:42:23 -0600 > Von: Jim Hall > An: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." > > Betreff: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Евгений Нежданов > wrote: > > Hi all. I want statistics about FreeDOS usage and general DOS usage of > > the world. I have few programs written by me for the MS-DOS since many > > years ago. This is a graphical library (written in the Turbo Pascal), > > multiwindowed text editor (written in the Turbo Pascal), > > object-oriented GUI making library in the Pascal, BASIC interpretter > > (written in the Turbo Pascal and other written in the QBASIC). This is > > all software are in the GNU GPL v3 license and in the scratched > > (non-complete) state. I can be complete all of this software if > > programming for the DOS platform is so far have a sense and required > > by users. How more people in now use DOS in real daily life? Only the > > DOS necromastrubators? :) I can be rewrite to FreeDOS favorite > > language - C - my projects, such as universal graphical library > > (supports all video modes from CGA 320x200 onto the VESA 3584x2488 > > 32-bit color). > > Hi. teogum replied to your other email on this topic, but here's my > contribution. > > Today, FreeDOS is often used by three types of users: > > > 1. People who want to play old DOS games > 2. Developers, to run embedded systems > 3. Businesses, to run legacy DOS software > > > There aren't usage numbers for FreeDOS like you can get for Windows or > Mac, which typically equate to "numbers of licenses sold" or "number > of Macs sold". But I can tell you about how many times the FreeDOS > distribution was downloaded. I've been keeping track of downloads > since the FreeDOS 1.1 release in January 2012. > > We're seeing 40,000-42,000 downloads per month over the last few > months. Here are the number of downloads of the FreeDOS distribution > per month in 2012: > > 16570 > 20611 > 20970 > 28226 > 18034 > 26952 > 30118 > 44820 > 50736 > 40087 > 40087 > 42175 > > So far in January 2013, we have had 28,987 downloads of FreeDOS. At > the current rate, we'll have over 39,000 downloads by the end of > January. > > > I should be clear that the above numbers are for both FreeDOS 1.0 and > FreeDOS 1.1. If you are interested in just the number of downloads for > FreeDOS 1.1, here they are per month in 2012: > > 16496 > 19671 > 20879 > 28129 > 17930 > 21977 > 21146 > 35228 > 40482 > 32348 > 31755 > 33373 > > And so far in January 2013, we have had 22,991 downloads of FreeDOS > 1.1. By the end of January, that should be almost 31,000 just for > FreeDOS 1.1. > > > -jh > > -- > Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, > MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current > with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft > MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
On 1/23/2013 4:54 AM, Евгений Нежданов wrote: > Hi all. I want statistics about FreeDOS usage and general DOS usage of > the world. I have few programs written by me for the MS-DOS since many > years ago. This is a graphical library (written in the Turbo Pascal), > multiwindowed text editor (written in the Turbo Pascal), > object-oriented GUI making library in the Pascal, BASIC interpretter > (written in the Turbo Pascal and other written in the QBASIC). This is > all software are in the GNU GPL v3 license and in the scratched > (non-complete) state. I can be complete all of this software if > programming for the DOS platform is so far have a sense and required > by users. How more people in now use DOS in real daily life? Only the > DOS necromastrubators? :) I can be rewrite to FreeDOS favorite > language - C - my projects, such as universal graphical library > (supports all video modes from CGA 320x200 onto the VESA 3584x2488 > 32-bit color). Some advice: - Put your offerings on a web page or on an open source hosting site such as SourceForge or Google Code. In the year 2013 there is no excuse for not distributing your open source code in an open manner. - If your code is not complete you should make an effort to make sure that it is usable and somewhat documented so that others have a chance of picking up where you left off, or helping you finish the code. - Do not expect a lot of help - the number of people doing programming for DOS is very limited. And most of them already have their own special projects and interests. - Insulting your audience does not help. - You will not be able to get statistically valid input on who the potential users are. Do it for you, not for anybody else. If somebody else likes and appreciates your work that is the bonus. Mike -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
On 1/23/2013 11:42 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > Hi. teogum replied to your other email on this topic, but here's my > contribution. > > Today, FreeDOS is often used by three types of users: > > > 1. People who want to play old DOS games > 2. Developers, to run embedded systems > 3. Businesses, to run legacy DOS software I would add a fourth category to that - people who maintain old IBM compatible PC hardware for their hobby, which is usually vintage computing. If we split hairs too much there could be an infinite number of users, but I think that group is large enough to stand alone. I might also add a fifth group - people who need a minimal bootable system to apply BIOS or other firmware updates. We get a lot of requests on the mailing lists for people looking to put FreeDOS on USB sticks, and often it is for this purpose. > There aren't usage numbers for FreeDOS like you can get for Windows or > Mac, which typically equate to "numbers of licenses sold" or "number > of Macs sold". But I can tell you about how many times the FreeDOS > distribution was downloaded. I've been keeping track of downloads > since the FreeDOS 1.1 release in January 2012. > > We're seeing 40,000-42,000 downloads per month over the last few > months. Here are the number of downloads of the FreeDOS distribution > per month in 2012: > > > And so far in January 2013, we have had 22,991 downloads of FreeDOS > 1.1. By the end of January, that should be almost 31,000 just for > FreeDOS 1.1. > > > -jh > I am surprised that there are so many downloads. When you think about the number of copies of PC DOS and MS DOS copies floating around, that makes for a *large* number of DOS users. Most of which are probably occasional users, but still that is very impressive. Mike -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
Great to hear that Jevgenij works on some new DOS software. It is always very welcome! (personaly for me is great that it is written in pascal because it is my favourite language which I know best) offtopic: I personaly sometimes work with dead bodies as I am medical doctor but I never masturbated with them. However on medical faculty I knew at least two persons which very probably did. -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Rugxulo Datum: 26. 1. 2013 Předmět: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense "Hi, On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Евгений Нежданов wrote: > >> I think it's great that you have these programs (editor and BASIC >> interpreter) and are willing to share them under the GNU GPL. Where >> can people download these programs to try them out on FreeDOS? Do you >> have a website where you make these programs available to others? > > I does currently not have a website, I assume you can still use (if desired) something like Google Sites or SourceForge or Berlios or similar. > but I can complete these programs > and upload it's into the dropbox share folder for all for test case of > the FreeDOS users & developers for get vote for them and so add it's > into the ibiblio FreeDOS file hosting. Adding to iBiblio is a good idea (assuming licenses are open/free/libre). Just find a way to get it to Jim or me. (My main computer is still temporarily down, but I managed to restore my iBiblio access with old PuppyLinux key via VirtualBox VM. Tested with uploading latest minor NASM update, it works.) >> But I would ask that you not refer to DOS users as "DOS >> necromasturbators" as this is derogatory. > Please sorry me for this word. Heheh. I've never heard anyone say that before. Though someone did call me a necromancer a few years ago on FreeBASIC's forum due to my support of DOS. ;-) Lemme find the full quote: "j00 r nt teh necromanz0r!". I didn't understand at the time, but apparently a necromancer is a fictional thing (off-topic: Hexen2 backported to DJGPP ftw, hi Ozkan!) who is undead or revives the dead or something goofy like that. In essence, we're reviving a dead OS (in some peoples' eyes) by supporting FreeDOS. Though I question their sense of history in conveniently forgetting so quickly the impact DOS had (and still has). -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel";-- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
Hi, On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Евгений Нежданов wrote: > >> I think it's great that you have these programs (editor and BASIC >> interpreter) and are willing to share them under the GNU GPL. Where >> can people download these programs to try them out on FreeDOS? Do you >> have a website where you make these programs available to others? > > I does currently not have a website, I assume you can still use (if desired) something like Google Sites or SourceForge or Berlios or similar. > but I can complete these programs > and upload it's into the dropbox share folder for all for test case of > the FreeDOS users & developers for get vote for them and so add it's > into the ibiblio FreeDOS file hosting. Adding to iBiblio is a good idea (assuming licenses are open/free/libre). Just find a way to get it to Jim or me. (My main computer is still temporarily down, but I managed to restore my iBiblio access with old PuppyLinux key via VirtualBox VM. Tested with uploading latest minor NASM update, it works.) >> But I would ask that you not refer to DOS users as "DOS >> necromasturbators" as this is derogatory. > Please sorry me for this word. Heheh. I've never heard anyone say that before. Though someone did call me a necromancer a few years ago on FreeBASIC's forum due to my support of DOS. ;-) Lemme find the full quote: "j00 r nt teh necromanz0r!". I didn't understand at the time, but apparently a necromancer is a fictional thing (off-topic: Hexen2 backported to DJGPP ftw, hi Ozkan!) who is undead or revives the dead or something goofy like that. In essence, we're reviving a dead OS (in some peoples' eyes) by supporting FreeDOS. Though I question their sense of history in conveniently forgetting so quickly the impact DOS had (and still has). -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
> Compared to SETEDIT, your editor works on 8086. And compared > to our EDIT, your editor can probably handle bigger files... My editor handle files sizes of free memory in real more. > So yes, your GENTEXT is a good alternative. But if our EDIT > is unstable, please give a more detailed bug description. Standard FreeDOS EDIT is very often crashed at randomly moments in the copying/pasting of the text, and on the editing them. In the screen have the screenshot of the editor by EDIT has crashed. In the EDIT sources, used the C language. So, C language is very bad for the any string operations at all. But my editor written in the Pascal and so does not crashed. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
Hi Jevgenij, > I do not use Borland or other proprietary toolkit - I use my own > written window toolkit. Cool :-) >>> GENTEXT - multiwindow text editor, more stable but standard EDIT. >> Actually FreeDOS EDIT already is multiwindow, but limited >> in file size. For big files, an interesting editor is: >> ... bla, bla, bla... > You say to me in these way - "FreeDOS does not want to have more > stable editor; use standard EDIT (old of 2006 year)"? I think to > replace standard FreeDOS EDIT by my GENTEXT editor - more stable, > free, multiwindowed without any restrictions - is good idea. You mean 2008: http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=edit (but still I am a fan of the older 0.7a, works with FDAPM) Compared to SETEDIT, your editor works on 8086. And compared to our EDIT, your editor can probably handle bigger files... So yes, your GENTEXT is a good alternative. But if our EDIT is unstable, please give a more detailed bug description. >> QBASIC compatibility mode for 386/newer computers: www.freebasic.net > You say to me: "Go to with your BASIC interpretter to the devil mother at > all"? No. As explained, FreeBasic is only for 386. For 8086, your basic is probably much better than BWBASIC :-) Regards, Eric -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
> Hi Jevgenij :-) Hi Eric. > That would probably be too annoying for people who want to > download DOS. But we could put a poll to the homepage, some > form saying "What do YOU use DOS for? Pick a choice to tell > us your DOS style: ..." or similar. The idea would be as on > https://isc.sans.edu/ where today you can vote about Java > worries (need it / avoiding it / not needing it / disabled > in web browser / using default install) and optionally you > can send a comment along with your vote. I think to add voting to FreeDOS website is good idea. >> In the FreeDOS distributive want to have more stable BASIC >> interpreter and more stable and more usable text editor? > Sounds nice :-) Some Borland text windowing toolkits have > slightly limiting licenses, but you can probably use free > alternatives if you were using those. I do not use Borland or other proprietary toolkit - I use my own written window toolkit. >> GENTEXT - multiwindow text editor, more stable but standard EDIT. > Actually FreeDOS EDIT already is multiwindow, but limited > in file size. For big files, an interesting editor is: > ... bla, bla, bla... You say to me in these way - "FreeDOS does not want to have more stable editor; use standard EDIT (old of 2006 year)"? I think to replace standard FreeDOS EDIT by my GENTEXT editor - more stable, free, multiwindowed withour any restrictions - is good idea. >> And so, I can give to the FreeDOS project my BASIC interpretter like >> the GW-BASIC - iBASIC (immortal BASIC interpreter). But this up to >> 50% more speed about BW-BASIC; to 90% more smaller about BW-BASIC and >> to 99% more stable (my interpreter cannot be crashed). > I remember that BW-BASIC is annoying, so it is cool to have > a small and stable and fast alternative. For those who do > have more disk space, FreeBASIC is a nice BASIC with extra > QBASIC compatibility mode for 386/newer computers: www.freebasic.net You say to me: "Go to with your BASIC interpretter to the devil mother at all"? >> to 80% with GW-BASIC/QBASIC. All of my can give software is GNU GPL >> and written on the Turbo Pascal for 8086. I can be compiled the 80386 >> versions, but standard EDIT must be only the 8086 - for compatibility > Although those computers are very hard to find now, somebody > actually made a FreeDOS boot floppy with all-8086 selection > of DOS software from our distro, might be interesting for you. > I think it was Joris van Rantwijk, who used it in his tiny, > Java based, emulator for PC-XT. See his page: > blah, blah, blah... > Maybe some of those distros could use some fans and > motivation to update the software inside them :-) Yes, it is a good idea. Thank. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
> I think it's great that you have these programs (editor and BASIC > interpreter) and are willing to share them under the GNU GPL. Where > can people download these programs to try them out on FreeDOS? Do you > have a website where you make these programs available to others? I does currently not have a website, but I can complete these programs and upload it's into the dropbox share folder for all for test case of the FreeDOS users & developers for get vote for them and so add it's into the ibiblio FreeDOS file hosting. > But I would ask that you not refer to DOS users as "DOS > necromasturbators" as this is derogatory. Please sorry me for this word. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
the download links to all this stuff would be appreciated... eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
Hi Jevgenij :-) Indeed very interesting download stats, Jim, thanks! > Please add on the FreeDOS website in the page of download the form is > required to fill before download the FreeDOS with questions about who > and for what who download the FreeDOS for collect more complete > information about usage the FreeDOS. That would probably be too annoying for people who want to download DOS. But we could put a poll to the homepage, some form saying "What do YOU use DOS for? Pick a choice to tell us your DOS style: ..." or similar. The idea would be as on https://isc.sans.edu/ where today you can vote about Java worries (need it / avoiding it / not needing it / disabled in web browser / using default install) and optionally you can send a comment along with your vote. > In the FreeDOS distributive want to have more stable BASIC > interpreter and more stable and more usable text editor? Sounds nice :-) Some Borland text windowing toolkits have slightly limiting licenses, but you can probably use free alternatives if you were using those. > GENTEXT - multiwindow text editor, more stable but standard EDIT. Actually FreeDOS EDIT already is multiwindow, but limited in file size. For big files, an interesting editor is: http://setedit.sourceforge.net/ (SETEDIT, for 386/newer) > And so, I can give to the FreeDOS project my BASIC interpretter like > the GW-BASIC - iBASIC (immortal BASIC interpreter). But this up to > 50% more speed about BW-BASIC; to 90% more smaller about BW-BASIC and > to 99% more stable (my interpreter cannot be crashed). I remember that BW-BASIC is annoying, so it is cool to have a small and stable and fast alternative. For those who do have more disk space, FreeBASIC is a nice BASIC with extra QBASIC compatibility mode for 386/newer computers: http://www.freebasic.net/ > to 80% with GW-BASIC/QBASIC. All of my can give software is GNU GPL > and written on the Turbo Pascal for 8086. I can be compiled the 80386 > versions, but standard EDIT must be only the 8086 - for compatibility Although those computers are very hard to find now, somebody actually made a FreeDOS boot floppy with all-8086 selection of DOS software from our distro, might be interesting for you. I think it was Joris van Rantwijk, who used it in his tiny, Java based, emulator for PC-XT. See his page: http://jorisvr.nl/retro/ See for a bigger Java PC emulator and FreeDOS boot floppy: http://jpc.sourceforge.net/download_download.html Other floppy distros that might interest you: http://odin.fdos.org/ (720k, 8086 and 1.44 MB, Lucho et al) http://www.finnix.org/Balder (inspired by ODIN, Ryan Finnie) www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/unofficial/bare_dos/ by Rugxulo https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/ RUFFIDEA (3 disks) Maybe some of those distros could use some fans and motivation to update the software inside them :-) Regards, Eric -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Евгений Нежданов wrote: > Hello. >> Hi. teogum replied to your other email on this topic, but here's my >> contribution. >> Today, FreeDOS is often used by three types of users: > Very big thank for you for give me information about FreeDOS > downloading statistics! DOS is going the new life! Yeah! > Please add on the FreeDOS website in the page of download the form is > required to fill before download the FreeDOS with questions about who > and for what who download the FreeDOS for collect more complete > information about usage the FreeDOS. Actually, if we were to ask people to fill out a form on the FreeDOS download page, many people would not choose to do so. It's a hassle to fill out a form when you just want to download the software, so they would skip the form and just get the software. And I'm not sure how a form or survey would tell us anything we don't already know. We already know about the three types of FreeDOS users through interacting with them. > In the FreeDOS distributive want to have more stable BASIC > interpretter and more stable and more usable text editor? I can give > my GENTEXT - multiwindow text editor, more stable but standard EDIT. > And so, I can give to the FreeDOS project my BASIC interpretter like > the GW-BASIC - iBASIC (immortal BASIC interpretter). But this up to > 50% more speed about BW-BASIC; to 90% more smaller about BW-BASIC and > to 99% more stable (my interpretter cannot be crashed). And so, I can > give to FreeDOS project compiler for BASIC language subset, compatible > to 80% with GW-BASIC/QBASIC. All of my can give software is GNU GPL > and written on the Turbo Pascal for 8086. I can be compiled the 80386 > versions, but standard EDIT must be only the 8086 - for compatibility > with the IBM PC XT - museum computers haved in the DOS > necromastrubators - 99% of peolple who use DOS in the modern world. > Please say to me you answer about me can gived to the FreeDOS project > programs. I think it's great that you have these programs (editor and BASIC interpreter) and are willing to share them under the GNU GPL. Where can people download these programs to try them out on FreeDOS? Do you have a website where you make these programs available to others? But I would ask that you not refer to DOS users as "DOS necromasturbators" as this is derogatory. Thanks! -jh -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
Hello. > Hi. teogum replied to your other email on this topic, but here's my > contribution. > Today, FreeDOS is often used by three types of users: Very big thank for you for give me information about FreeDOS downloading statistics! DOS is going the new life! Yeah! Please add on the FreeDOS website in the page of download the form is required to fill before download the FreeDOS with questions about who and for what who download the FreeDOS for collect more complete information about usage the FreeDOS. In the FreeDOS distributive want to have more stable BASIC interpretter and more stable and more usable text editor? I can give my GENTEXT - multiwindow text editor, more stable but standard EDIT. And so, I can give to the FreeDOS project my BASIC interpretter like the GW-BASIC - iBASIC (immortal BASIC interpretter). But this up to 50% more speed about BW-BASIC; to 90% more smaller about BW-BASIC and to 99% more stable (my interpretter cannot be crashed). And so, I can give to FreeDOS project compiler for BASIC language subset, compatible to 80% with GW-BASIC/QBASIC. All of my can give software is GNU GPL and written on the Turbo Pascal for 8086. I can be compiled the 80386 versions, but standard EDIT must be only the 8086 - for compatibility with the IBM PC XT - museum computers haved in the DOS necromastrubators - 99% of peolple who use DOS in the modern world. Please say to me you answer about me can gived to the FreeDOS project programs. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Евгений Нежданов wrote: > Hi all. I want statistics about FreeDOS usage and general DOS usage of > the world. I have few programs written by me for the MS-DOS since many > years ago. This is a graphical library (written in the Turbo Pascal), > multiwindowed text editor (written in the Turbo Pascal), > object-oriented GUI making library in the Pascal, BASIC interpretter > (written in the Turbo Pascal and other written in the QBASIC). This is > all software are in the GNU GPL v3 license and in the scratched > (non-complete) state. I can be complete all of this software if > programming for the DOS platform is so far have a sense and required > by users. How more people in now use DOS in real daily life? Only the > DOS necromastrubators? :) I can be rewrite to FreeDOS favorite > language - C - my projects, such as universal graphical library > (supports all video modes from CGA 320x200 onto the VESA 3584x2488 > 32-bit color). Hi. teogum replied to your other email on this topic, but here's my contribution. Today, FreeDOS is often used by three types of users: 1. People who want to play old DOS games 2. Developers, to run embedded systems 3. Businesses, to run legacy DOS software There aren't usage numbers for FreeDOS like you can get for Windows or Mac, which typically equate to "numbers of licenses sold" or "number of Macs sold". But I can tell you about how many times the FreeDOS distribution was downloaded. I've been keeping track of downloads since the FreeDOS 1.1 release in January 2012. We're seeing 40,000-42,000 downloads per month over the last few months. Here are the number of downloads of the FreeDOS distribution per month in 2012: 16570 20611 20970 28226 18034 26952 30118 44820 50736 40087 40087 42175 So far in January 2013, we have had 28,987 downloads of FreeDOS. At the current rate, we'll have over 39,000 downloads by the end of January. I should be clear that the above numbers are for both FreeDOS 1.0 and FreeDOS 1.1. If you are interested in just the number of downloads for FreeDOS 1.1, here they are per month in 2012: 16496 19671 20879 28129 17930 21977 21146 35228 40482 32348 31755 33373 And so far in January 2013, we have had 22,991 downloads of FreeDOS 1.1. By the end of January, that should be almost 31,000 just for FreeDOS 1.1. -jh -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
