[Freedos-user] how do I unsubscribe from freedos lis
How do I unsubscribe from the freedoslist. no longer have us for freedos iot was very useful for me in the past -- Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:PO box 9767 Baldwin, MD, USA 21013 | EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Apologize missent message Re: Am I missing a puppy?
list so sorry i missent this to the list. i am not sure how it got sent to the freedos list. i was doing a web page for some one with a litter of puppies and they sent me 6 pictures 7 puppy names. On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Bonnie Dalzell wrote: > > Let Freedom Ring (Liberty Bell) > > Is that the one that died > > If so no need to put her on the site of course. > > Otherwise need description and pics. > > ~~~ > Bonnie Dalzell, MA > mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net > Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog > breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. > HOME www.batw.netART bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS > www.boardingatwedge.com > > > -- > Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. > Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, > secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? > Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ~~~~~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. HOME www.batw.netART bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS www.boardingatwedge.com -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Am I missing a puppy?
Let Freedom Ring (Liberty Bell) Is that the one that died If so no need to put her on the site of course. Otherwise need description and pics. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. HOME www.batw.netART bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS www.boardingatwedge.com -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Emulate floppy drive for laptop without floppy
I have a program which requires itself to be installed from a floppy after the OS has booted. It has a special floppy which I have been able to make a disk image of. However the floppy has to be mounted after dosemu/freedos boots and it has to be in drive a: or b: Is there any way for Freedos/dosemu to emulated a floppy disk change of a floppy image after boot of the OS? ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. HOME www.batw.netART bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS www.boardingatwedge.com -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] website design
I do web sites and graphics I do not do css from scratch or java script however. I would be happy to redo the freedos website if you need it done as long as you do not want java scripts or complex css. i am a regular FreeDos user with no programming skills other than website design to contribut to the project. Some of my web sites are in the address line below It appears to me that the site at www.freedos.or is based on a standard wiki template. it appears pretty easy to navigate. what is wrong with it in the opinion of the users? Although I do not do css from scratch I can tweak subsections of a css page. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. HOME www.batw.netART bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS www.boardingatwedge.com -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] window behavior dosemu/freedos on Ubbuntu Linux
I run the dosemu/freedos package in a window on ubuntu linux (8.10 Intrepid). I use Gnome desktop. Basically it does what I need it to do except for one thing. When ever I type in the dosemu window the window darkens for a moment. This does not keep the window from accepting the keyboard entry however. This happens wether the terminal launching dosemu/Freedos is gnome terminal or terminator. Any ideas as to what is going on? ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge This is your chance to win up to $100,000 in prizes! For a limited time, vendors submitting new applications to BlackBerry App World(TM) will have the opportunity to enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge. See full prize details at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/Challenge ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Web site ISP problems
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Pat Villani wrote: > Over the weekend, the ISP that handles our DNS did an upgrade and > unfortunately it didn't happen smoothly, so they are effectively down right > now. Based on what we know, this may take some time before they can correct > it. Is that a Tucows managed DNS? That is bad, not just for freedos, Tucows is a major manager of domain names. > > Until this is fixed, www.freedos.org will not be resolvable in DNS, so it > will appear as though the FreeDOS site is down. Instead, developers > and users can visit the FreeDOS web site at its alternate address: > http://freedos.sourceforge.net/ . > > Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause. > > Special thanks to Jim Hall for all the work he's done with respect to this > issue. > > Pat > ~~~~~~~~~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Announcement: New DOS USB Drivers (fwd)
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Aitor Santamaría wrote:
Bonnie, I see in his page that the source code is provided, but would
you know what the license may be?
Also can someone give some feedback on how they are working for you?
I am not sure about the license but the author's address is in the
forwarded e-mail so he could be asked directly.
I am not a "power freedos user", I use it to allow me to run an old
pedigree program in an xdosemu window under Linux. However I try to help
with the project in a limited way.
The drivers are free to download so including the address to them in
freedos information would give access to a useful tool even if they could
not be included in the freedos distro.
Thanks!
Aitor
2009/7/1 Bonnie Dalzell :
When I was doing some help type work tracking down documentation and
sources utilities for Freedos I wrote this programmer about some of his
drivers - so he forwarded this announcement to me about his new DOS USB
drivers. I hope this is of interest to the Freedos community.
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mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net
freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog
breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com.
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:49:53 GMT
From: Bret Johnson
To: bretj...@juno.com
Subject: Announcement: New DOS USB Drivers
Good day to you.
My name is Bret Johnson, and I write DOS TSR programs. I am sending this
e-mail to you because you have contacted me in the past regarding at least
one of my DOS programs, and I thought you might be interested in knowing
that I have just released some DOS USB drivers for testing. These drivers
are completely different (and hopefully better) than any other DOS USB
drivers that are currently available. There are drivers for USB
keyboards, mice, joysticks, printers, and disk drives.
Unfortunately, the the drivers have some limitations, and may not work
with your current hardware. They host drivers will currently only work
with USB host controllers that use the UHCI protocol, which are made by
Intel and Via Technologies. Support for other host controller
manufacturers will be added in the future.
If you're interested, please go to my web site (http://bretjohnson.us),
download the files, and let me know what you think. If you're not
interested, I apologize for the inconvenience. Please let me know if you
want me to remove you from my contact list regarding DOS programs.
Thank you very much,
Bret Johnson
http://bretjohnson.us
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[Freedos-user] Announcement: New DOS USB Drivers (fwd)
When I was doing some help type work tracking down documentation and sources utilities for Freedos I wrote this programmer about some of his drivers - so he forwarded this announcement to me about his new DOS USB drivers. I hope this is of interest to the Freedos community. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:49:53 GMT From: Bret Johnson To: bretj...@juno.com Subject: Announcement: New DOS USB Drivers Good day to you. My name is Bret Johnson, and I write DOS TSR programs. I am sending this e-mail to you because you have contacted me in the past regarding at least one of my DOS programs, and I thought you might be interested in knowing that I have just released some DOS USB drivers for testing. These drivers are completely different (and hopefully better) than any other DOS USB drivers that are currently available. There are drivers for USB keyboards, mice, joysticks, printers, and disk drives. Unfortunately, the the drivers have some limitations, and may not work with your current hardware. They host drivers will currently only work with USB host controllers that use the UHCI protocol, which are made by Intel and Via Technologies. Support for other host controller manufacturers will be added in the future. If you're interested, please go to my web site (http://bretjohnson.us), download the files, and let me know what you think. If you're not interested, I apologize for the inconvenience. Please let me know if you want me to remove you from my contact list regarding DOS programs. Thank you very much, Bret Johnson http://bretjohnson.us -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] getting puppy to work.
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, kurt godel wrote:
> Bonnie, I don't know if you are using a dial up modem, but I have cable
> company online, and the latest puppy
> for sure, is *instantly* ready to work, whether live cd or installed puppy;
> I have never used a dial up modem.
> --kurt.
>
I have a dsl set up. When I tried puppy a year ago it seemed to want a
dial up.
Ubuntu Linux, my husband's mac and our roommate's windoze machine have no
problems with puppy. On the other hand the new [cheap] Dekk laptop I have
with Vista and Ubuntu can only get online via Ubuntu, not with Vista.
~~~~~~~
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Re: [Freedos-user] Linux in fat partition.
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, kurt godel wrote: > There is a linux that runs in a fat partition: puppy; it runs in a linux > filesystem which is inside a fat, and I have > used it on a ten year old dell with pentium three and 128 meg ram. By the > way, it's small size makes it an excellent > live cd-linux on the old machines, and it sports an excellent web browser, > with NIC drivers built in and ready to > go. Finally I was able to install the puppy on a logical 'd' partition, with > freedos on the 'c' partition, and grub4dos > for the booting. Puppy is neat.--kurt.[?] > I have not tried Puppy for over a year but I had problems getting it to go online at our house. Any difficulties on that front? ~~~~~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?
Further suggestions on old floppy install disks sometimes the disk is sort of bad - that is some files are bad and others are ok. occassionally if you have a couple of back up sets of the disks you can pull the good files off different disks and combine them. also if there are only a couple of bad files you may be able to get someone to give you the ones you need. that is not piracy, you own a set of the legal install disks after all. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?
Old install floppies. a lot of those old install floppies have propriatary formatting which can make it hard to make a back up while the disks are still good. i have had some success using spinwrite and then using the linux disk duplicator - dd - to make a disk image to store on a cd or the harddrive. later it can be copied back to a floppy. it is my understanding that one can actually mount a disk image that is on a harddrive as a floppy drive under Freedos but someone needs to write up a more detailed set of instructions for me to actually accomplish this. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?
This website has a list of wordprocessors including a number that run
under dos
http://texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?action=browse&diff=1&id=WordProcessors
This one, VDE, seems to still have availability
http://texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?VDE
and this is the file download page
http://groups.google.com/group/vde_editor/web/vde-files?pli=1
I have not tried the editor yet.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Abandonware site...
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Michael Robinson wrote: > If you own a computer that had MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.1 > on it at one point, but your install media are fried, try > this abandonware site. > > http://vetusware.com > > I worry about the legality of downloading from this site, but > technically the software they are allowing people to download > is unsupported and abandoned. > > I think the rule is 20 years old, but some of this stuff isn't > that old. Use with care. > In the US copyright is life of the author plus 50 years now for stuff created after the early 1980's. If the copyright owner is a corporation it is 75 years or so. If it is patented it is 17 years. Most software in the US is covered by copyright not patent. There is an aspect of copyright that you have to defend your copyright or you may loose it and the material will move into the public domain. > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: > High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. > Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ~~~~~~~~~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] patents - was: LFN in FreeDOS kernel? - was: aimed compatibility?
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Ralf A. Quint wrote: > At 05:59 PM 3/31/2009, Bonnie Dalzell wrote: > >> Here is a table with timelines. It would appear that FA12T patents - >> developd in 1980 would be expired. FAT 16 was introduced in 1984 along >> with MSDOS 3.0 - again more than 20 years ago. >> >> Extended partitions were introduced in 1986. Again just 3 years more than >> 20 years ago. MSDOS 3.3 is Aug of 1987. >> >> File Allocation Table >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table >> >> the part of this page in the section "Long file names" suggests to me that >> the LFN was available before windows 95 was released. I wonder how close >> this patent is to expiration and if M$ went to court to try and wring a >> last bit of money out of it and upset the open source community? > > Again, those 4 patents are referring to long file names (which first > became available with Windows 95) and have been filed between 1992 > and 1997, so they are in effect 'til 2012/2017... > > Ralf TomTom settled because it was cheaper to pay a licensing fee than to go to court. Since it did not go to court there has been no ruling on the validity of the patent. However lawyers in the Free Software community state that they still reguard the FAT patents as weak and challengable under "prior art". Here is an article: "OIN: TomTom settlement is no win for Microsoft, expect challenge" http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=3849 > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] patents - was: LFN in FreeDOS kernel? - was: aimed compatibility?
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Michael Reichenbach wrote: > David C. Kerber schrieb: >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Jim Hall [mailto:jh...@freedos.org] >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:30 PM >>> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >>> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] patents - was: LFN in FreeDOS >>> kernel? - was: aimed compatibility? >>> >> >> ... >> >>> If LFN support were part of the kernel, a C&D would mean not >>> distributing the FreeDOS kernel itself. And that might make >>> it very difficult to replace the distro with a non-LFN version. >>> >>> In the face of these patents, perhaps FreeDOS 1.1 should not >>> include DOSLFN, and instead indicate where the user could >>> download it separately. (http://www.geocities.com/jadoxa/doslfn/) >>> >>> When others have asked me, I have recommended a "wait and see" >>> approach. As others have pointed out, Microsoft will go after >>> Linux first, so if Linux loses the fight, FreeDOS can simply >>> remove DOSLFN and move on with plain non-LFN FAT. In February >>> 2009, Microsoft filed a patent infringement lawsuit against >>> TomTom based on patents related to FAT32 filesystem. Wait for >>> the final outcome in that case, then decide based on that >>> whether to remove DOSLFN. >> >> That settled today, with TomTom paying M$ and undisclosed amount of >> money, and some cross-licensing agreements for some of the patents that >> each of them owns, and TomTOm has to stop using the patents in question >> within 2 years. >> >> A big difference, though: TomTom was making money off it, while FreeDOS >> does not. >> >> D >> > > I do not see the difference between money and no money, you have to > explain it. > > FreeDOS can be also seen as possible factor for less sold and used copys > of Windows, because the time people using FreeDOS them are not using > Windows and therefore less money with additional products and support. > FreeDOS can be Microsoft a thorn in the eye, even if it doesn't coast money. > > The questionable part is if them would theoretically try it? It's not > good press to fight against individuals not charging money and not much > money get out of them. Incidently have you all seen this article: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/6694/1/ My use of Freedos comes because I have a legacy DOS application to run that does NOT run under any version of windows later than 98. So my use does not conflict with the sale of any windows version that M$ currently is willing to sell and support. The first version of windows was released in 1985 and if the file system description was patented then - those patents are now expired. That should pretty much cover problems with 8 plus 3 file names. The long file names appear to come in with windows 95. the question becomes when were the windows 95 file sustems patents filed Here is a table with timelines. It would appear that FA12T patents - developd in 1980 would be expired. FAT 16 was introduced in 1984 along with MSDOS 3.0 - again more than 20 years ago. Extended partitions were introduced in 1986. Again just 3 years more than 20 years ago. MSDOS 3.3 is Aug of 1987. File Allocation Table http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table the part of this page in the section "Long file names" suggests to me that the LFN was available before windows 95 was released. I wonder how close this patent is to expiration and if M$ went to court to try and wring a last bit of money out of it and upset the open source community? > -mr > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] patents - was: LFN in FreeDOS kernel? - was: aimed compatibility?
As an American I was under the impression that the European Union decided
that software methodologies were not patentable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_patent
Even if someone files a patent - infringement cases are not enforced by
the government patent office but by the patent holder. Often patents
are filed which are invalid because of "prior art". Then when the patent
holder goes after some one for infringing the defense is to prove
prior public existance of the technique.
The patent does not last as long as a copyright.
for US patents after 1995 the term is 20 years which conforms to the
world patent policy.
Prior to 1861 US patents had terms not exceeding fourteen years with an
additional seven year extension.
>From 1861 to 1995 the term of the patent in the US was 17 years.
So software patents issued prior to 1988 should have expired. This may
apply to a lot of DOS related patents.
This wikipedia article is a pretty good discussion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_of_patent_in_the_United_States
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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS running stable on my athlon
for developer information Freedos has always run will on my 5 year old athlon, either under Ubuntu linux with dosemu, or as a stand alone boot from a small FAT 32 partition. i have also installed it on a ancient Dell 386, and three 386 laptops (a dell, a gateway and a sony viao) with no problems either under dosemu and also as a standalone boot out of a fat partition. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Verdict on filesystem work...
what is involved in putting updated packages into zip format? i have a dos zip program on my freedos boot. how could i help? ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Poll FreeDOS and NTFS
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009, Blair Campbell wrote: BC >> True true... I wonder how bad it would be if Ubuntu and BC >> Debian made this the default anyway. Instead of a script, BC > BC >I just installed Debian and dosemu and haven't had to change sysctl.conf at all. BC > well i have Ubuntu Hardy, i have not upgraded to Intrepid because it is not LTS - so maybe this is limited to Hardy BC >-- BC >This SF.net email is sponsored by: BC >SourcForge Community BC >SourceForge wants to tell your story. BC >http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword BC >___ BC >Freedos-user mailing list BC >Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net BC >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user BC > ~~~~~~~~~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Poll FreeDOS and NTFS
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Eric Auer wrote: EA > EA >Hi Bonnie and happy new year still :-) Happy new year to you! Are you suffering from the heating gas turn off for the gas line passing through the Ukraine? EA > EA >Bonnie Dalzell wrote: EA > EA >> i use freedos from a dos formatted partition to boot into full screen EA >> freedos on a machine that also boots linux. i am happy with that. EA >> EA >> i also use freedos to boot from within a linux partition using xdosemu. EA >> EA >> i am happy with that except i have to run a little script first. EA >> EA >> this is the script EA >> EA >> #! /bin/bash EA >> echo 0 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr EA > EA >True true... I wonder how bad it would be if Ubuntu and EA >Debian made this the default anyway. Instead of a script, EA >I simply changed the global settings in /etc/sysctl.conf: EA > EA >(the file is longer, I only paste the modified lines here) EA > EA ># protect bottom 64k of memory from mmap to prevent NULL-dereference EA ># --- breaks dosemu and wine --- vm.mmap_min_addr = 65536 EA >vm.mmap_min_addr = 0 here is the reason given in my default /etc/sysctl.conf file # protect bottom 64k of memory from mmap to prevent NULL-dereference # attacks against potential future kernel security vulnerabilities. # (Added in kernel 2.6.23.) # vm.mmap_min_addr = 65536 how do they know it is a FUTURE kernel security vulnerability? time machine? :-) EA > EA >With this modification, after the next reboot, you no longer EA >have to run the script any more. EA > EA >Eric EA > EA >PS: I wonder when the dosemu.org page will describe 1.4 ;-) EA > EA > EA >-- EA >This SF.net email is sponsored by: EA >SourcForge Community EA >SourceForge wants to tell your story. EA >http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword EA >___ EA >Freedos-user mailing list EA >Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net EA >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user EA > ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Poll FreeDOS and NTFS
i use freedos from a dos formatted partition to boot into full screen freedos on a machine that also boots linux. i am happy with that. i also use freedos to boot from within a linux partition using xdosemu. i am happy with that except i have to run a little script first. this is the script #! /bin/bash echo 0 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] can freedos access a floppy disk image
On Wed, 21 May 2008, Robert Riebisch wrote: RR >Bonnie Dalzell wrote: RR > RR >> Can freedos mount this disk image and use it rather than the floppy disk RR >> in question? RR >> RR >> If so, how do you mount the disk image? RR > RR >There's a third party software called E0X available from RR ><http://kannegieser.net/veit/programm/index_e.htm>, which allows to RR >substitute your floppy drive with an image file before starting a RR >desired program, e.g., command.com. I never tried it on FreeDOS, but it RR >worked fine on MS-DOS for me. Thanks for the tip. The program seems to be in an .arj format. What is .arj and how does one unpack it? RR > RR >Robert Riebisch RR >-- RR >BTTR Software RR >http://www.bttr-software.de/ RR > RR >- RR >This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft RR >Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. RR >http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ RR >___ RR >Freedos-user mailing list RR >Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net RR >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user RR > ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] can freedos access a floppy disk image
I can make a diskimage of a floppy disk in linux with dd Can freedos mount this disk image and use it rather than the floppy disk in question? If so, how do you mount the disk image? ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Gui for FreeDOS
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Marti van Lin wrote: MvL >Jim Hall wrote: MvL >> On 11/30/07, OSCAR GONZALEZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MvL >>> MvL >>> Hi. MvL >>> Cual font ?. solo copie unas cuantas fonts de SEAL. pense que eran todas MvL >>> GPL. MvL >>> De todas maneras uso solamente la llamada "pc8x8t.fnt" las demas las puse MvL >>> por si alguien desarrolla una apps y MvL >>> necesitaba alguna. MvL > Although it is not perfect here is the result of using the spanish>english option from: http://ets.freetranslation.com/ Which font?. alone copy some as many fonts of SEAL. even that were all GPL. Of all ways use only the call pc8x8t.fnt" the demas I put them for if someone develops an apps and he needed some. There may be a better online translator available, this was the first I found. Here is its english> spanish translation of my sentence above. Es posible que haya a un mejor traductor en lnea disponible, esto fuera el primer encontr. MvL >This NO PERSONAL ATTACK, but could we please keep this mailinglist in MvL >English, so everyone is able to understand it? MvL > MvL >You've started this mailing list, because you wanted to avoid the MvL >trollish behavior of Usenet k00ka. Now writing in a language, the vast MvL >majority of the list doesn't understand is trollism to the limit. MvL > MvL >Common guys, get real and stick to your believes :-) MvL > MvL >With kind regards, MvL > MvL >Marti MvL > MvL >-- MvL >|_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin MvL >|_|_|0| http://ml2mst.googlepages.com MvL >|0|0|0| http://osgeex.blogspot.com MvL > MvL >- MvL >SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper MvL >from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going MvL >mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. MvL >http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 MvL >___ MvL >Freedos-user mailing list MvL >Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net MvL >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user MvL > ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Enbor . wrote: E >Hi, I had installed FreeDOS and now I'm trying to to boot it using E >Grub, but I can't get it. E > E >The partition in which I have installed FreeDOS is a logical partition E >(maybe that is the problem), called hda6 on linux. So I have been E >trying to boot by adding this entries to my Grub's menu.lst (a E >different one each try): did you make the partition a fat partition or is it a linux partition? gparted will allow you to set the parition type? since you have a linux set up have you tried running Freedos in a windo under dosemu/xdosemu? i can run my freedos either with dosemu or as a standalone boot but the standalone boot needs a dos partition. the dosemu version is running from a subdirectory under home in my linux partition although I can access data files in my dos parition. my boot partition for linux is in an extended/ logical partition but mt dos partition is a primary partition. here is my grub entry # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux # OS # on /dev/hda1 title FreeDOS root(hd0,0) savedefault makeactive chainloader +1 note that when Ubuntu was installing itself on my drive that it made the Freedos entry automatically having found freedos in the dos partition at hda1 E > E ># FreeDOS E >title FreeDOS E >root (hd0,5) E > E ># FreeDOS E >title FreeDOS+ E >root (hd0,5) E >chainloader +1 E > E ># FreeDOS E >title FreeDOS+ E >root (hd0,5) E >chainloader /freedos.bin # After doing "sys e: freedos.bin both" from E >the FreeDOS liveCD (E: is the partition where I've installed FreeDOS) E > E >When I select the FreeDOS entry from the Grub menu, appears a message E >saying "Starting FreeDOS" or something similar, but the PC freezes E >with a very loud Hard Disk sound and nothing happens. E > E >I have also tried those entries above with the "makeactive" option, E >but in that case an error message appears. E > what is the error message? E >Does anybody know what do I have to add to my Grub menu to be able to E >boot FreeDOS? E > E >Thanks E > E >- E >SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper E >from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going E >mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. E >http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 E >___ E >Freedos-user mailing list E >Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net E >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user E > ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install problem
ranish partition manager is an excellent partition tool (http://www.ranish.com/part/) which you can run from a floppy if you have a dos floppy. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install problem
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I am having a problem installingFreeDOS 1.0, base install with source. > I am runing a Dell, with a Celon CPU. > I have 160 GB HD, 2-GB of ram. > > I have 3 partitions, using PartitionMagic7: > Windows XP home edition. > Windows 2000 Pro. > Dos. (1396 Meg Bite partition size) > > With the DOS partition active. > The DOS partition was formatted using the format that comes with > PartitionMagic7. > The problem is that after loading FreeDOS (above version) my system freezes > up. have you tried booting from a freedos cd or putting the core of freedos on a floppy and booting from the floppy. that should give you an idea as to wether it is the install on your hd or some problem with freedos booting on your system that is the problem. > > Any suggestions or advice is greatly appreciated. > > Inquirer. > > > > ~~~~~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Multiboot using GRUB and FreeDOS plus several other operating systems
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Alain M. wrote: AM >Hi Hugo and Bonnie, AM > AM >Bonnie Dalzell escreveu: AM >> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, Hugo Delchini wrote: AM >> AM >> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux AM >> OS AM >> # on /dev/hda1 AM >> title FreeDOS AM >> root(hd0,0) AM >> savedefault AM >> makeactive AM >> chainloader +1 AM > AM >Complement for HUGO: I understand that "makeactive" is to set the AM >partition as Active, needed only in case that you have more than one AM >primary partition that you want to boot. Remember that any dos will only AM >boot from a primary partition, usualy hda1, hda2 or hda3, extended AM >partitions will not work AM > AM >Bonnie: what is "savedefault" ? AM > have to admit I am not sure. this was the suggested format from Ubuntu for setting up a dos bootable partition and it works so i had not explored further. I have had my freedos installations booting from primary partitions. generally it has been a small first partition because freedos does fine with 1/2 a gig and on these huge modern drives it has been trivial for me to save a small 1/2 gig partition at the start of the drive when I am setting it up. AM >Alain AM > AM > AM >- AM >This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft AM >Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. AM >http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ AM >___ AM >Freedos-user mailing list AM >Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net AM >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user AM > ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Multiboot using GRUB and FreeDOS plus several other operating systems
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, Hugo Delchini wrote: HD >Hi, i wonder if there is a way to boot freedos using GRUB ? How to to HD >the necessary setup, do i have to install freedos from the cdroms ? HD >Actually i have several PC with floppy drives and a hard disk. I would HD >like to install a minimal freedos setup on the hard disk, and be able to HD >boot other operating systems i can currently boot. I am using GRUB and HD >would like to continue but with the ability to boot freedos when i need HD >it. It is possible for me to boot under linux on these PCs and HD >manipulate the GRUB configuration on the hard disk to include freedos. HD >Is it possible ? Thanks for any help, i read several FAQs and found HD >nothing that helped me. HD >Hugo. HD > HD >Hi, i wonder if there is a way to boot freedos using GRUB ? How to to yes indeed there is!!! here is my grub menu for freedos one of the three os's that my system triple boots into. # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS # on /dev/hda1 title FreeDOS root(hd0,0) savedefault makeactive chainloader +1 I made a small (1/gig) fat 32 partition and copied freedos into it from the cd. the fat partition is first one on the primary harddrive. while linux numbers the drives as hda, hdb etc and their partitions as 1,2, 3, etc (hda1, hda2, etc) grub numbers the drives from 0 (zero) and the partitions from 0 (zero) so linux's hda1 is grub's hd0,0 you can test your mount when the grub boot screen comes up by editing the various lines interactively. typing 'e' get's you into edit for an entry, and typing "e" while the a line in the entry is highlighted enables you to edit temporarily the entry and then proceed to try a boot. ~~~~~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] booting FreeDOS - problems
Freedos and debian flavored linuces - the latest stable Ubuntu - Feisty allows you to install dosemu and freedos via synaptic. This was broken for a while in the previous Ubuntu - edgie. I had to go to the dosemu site and get some of the contents of the bin directory after using synaptic. However the dosemu/freedos combo I now have runs as a window in linux perfectly with the classic dos pedigree program I have - which is called CompuPed4.11. I use the xdosemu command to bring up dosemu/freedos. other than fetching the files in bin I did not have to do anything to configure freedos/dosemu this time. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] booting FreeDOS - problems
I have a drive with three primary partitions and an extended one with two logicals in it. I boot via grub and boot linux out of one of the extended partitions so you can boot from one. However I happen to have freedos in a little 500 mb partition at the very begining so I have not tried to boot freedos from a logical partition. however the command fro booting freedos via grub is: # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS # on /dev/hda1 title FreeDOS root(hd0,0) savedefault makeactive chainloader +1 when setting up a grub command you need to remember that grub numbers your partitions from zero, not from one - so first partition on the first harddrive is hd0,0 not hda1 ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dos help on FreeDos
Some general suggestions on help on dos. For absolute beginners in any area of computers I have found that an appropriate volumn of the "dummies" series - in this case "MSDOs for Dummies" or "Dos for Dummies" really does get you started and I have seen it listed on line as a used book for under one dollar. One of the advantages of these books is that they are task organized so you read the first chapter - then you look up the entry on the frustrating thing that you are trying to figure out and you do not have to read the whole book until you find the part that is about the current frustrating thing. another strategy i use when I have gotten into the subject at a level beyond the "Dummies Book" level is to go to a big bookstore and look up the frustrating thing in the index of a book about the subject and see if the explaination works for my problem. I will look through several books for the current problem and buy the one that does the best job answering the problem. in addition i have found that those big warehouse computer stores frequently have the older editions of those $50 to $100 books on sale for $5 and if you are just starting on a program or OS you probably do not need to know the latest cutting edge details right now - so go and buy the $5 book. LAter on you can use if for a doorstop or paperweigth when you have to buy the up to date version. As a further resource the O'Reilly book publishers - who have a lot of computer titles - have an online bookshelf called Safari safari.oreilly.com for around $20 a month it allows you online access to titles you select. you can terminate the account or put it as inactive whenever you want. ~~~~~~~~~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Necromancer DOS Navigator (NDN) and Freedos
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Florian Xaver wrote:
FX >
FX >Much better than Midnight Commander is Necromancer DOS Navigator (NDN). It
FX >has many many features ;-)
FX >You should have installed it.
when I went to the home pages for this application
http://ndn.muxe.com
they discuss a linux version and a windows version but not a dos version.
which version will run with Freedos?
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Re: [Freedos-user] Can't install FreeDos on extended partition?
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Alex Horvath wrote: AH >Hi, AH > AH >I have a new Windows Vista laptop. I would like to install FreeDos on a AH >second partition and dual boot. AH > AH >I created a small extended partition and formatted it as FAT using AH >Partition Magic. AH >I then boot to the FreeDos CD and start the install process. AH >However, the FreeDos installer does not give me any choice to which AH >partition it will install to and I think it wants to reformat the AH >existing primary partition. AH > AH >What am I doing wrong? I do not mean to sound as if I am talking down or anything but: Normally you can have as many as 4 primary partitions on a harddrive. You only have to make logical partitions within an extended partition if you need more than 4 primary partitions. Here is a page with basic information on partitions. http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/structPartitions-c.html Before you blow away your vista install make sure you actually have a set of vista disks that came with your machine. These days some new machines do not actually have a full set of operating disks. Another partition editor which is free is Ranish Partiion editor www.ranish.com AH > AH >If I have to I can blow away windows but we'd like to be sure we can AH >make FreeDos + our app work first on a second partition. AH > AH >Thanks AH > AH > AH > ~~~~~~~~~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Tragedy in Minneapolis
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Larry wrote: L >I saw then in the web news. Terrible. I'm sure L >there'll be an investigation. L > L >--- Jim Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is good to hear you are OK. Jim I that is scarey and you are not in an earthquake zone. when the freeway collapsed in Oakland CA during the Loma Prieata quake at least there was a cause you could look to. (Turned out there was errors in the construction - the horizontal spans were not anchored to the piers properly - so it was corruption in construction as well as the quake. It is always terrifying for such things to happen. There are a couple of freeway sections around Baltimore that make me very nervous - concrete spagetti in the sky. Here is a link to a CNN article for others on the list, CNN is reporting 3 confirmed dead, estimated 50 cars in the water. in L > L >> Hi everyone, L >> L >> Many of you probably know that I live in St Paul, MN L >> and work in L >> Minneapolis. If you aren't aware by now, there was a L >> terrible bridge L >> collapse in Minneapolis tonight, during L >> bumper-to-bumper rush hour. L >> This was right outside my office building. But L >> obviously I'm ok. L >> Thought I should let you guys know. L >> L >> My thoughts go out to anyone affected by this. L >> L >> -jh L >> L >> L >- L >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. L >> Still grepping through log files to find problems? L >> Stop. L >> Now Search log events and configuration files using L >> AJAX and a browser. L >> Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> L >> http://get.splunk.com/ L >> ___ L >> Freedos-user mailing list L >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net L >> L >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user L >> L > L > L > L > L > L >Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. L >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting L > L >- L >This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. L >Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. L >Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. L >Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ L >_______ L >Freedos-user mailing list L >Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net L >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user L > ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] weird happening
For reasons I will not trouble you with I had to reinstall Ubuntu Edgie (6.10) on both my laptop and desktop yesterday. So this morning I went to put Freedos-dosemu back on both computers. did the laptoo first using synaptic package manger. then went to do the desktop (this is maybe 3 minutes later) using synaptic package manager. Got an error saying: Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade The following packages have unresolvable dependencies. Make sure that all required repositories are added and enabled in the preferences. dosemu-freedos: Depends: dosemu but it is not installable I have checked the repositories and they are all selected in synaptic. Any idea what is going on? ~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Partitions freedos can boot from
In relation to my partition problem on the Pentium 3 Gateway. I reinstalled linux in rescue mode and the reinstall oof grub recognized that freedos was there in the logical partition but I still could not get it to boot - still had the error 12. Since I really did not have anything critical on the linux install I redid the linux install entirely on my second primary partition and reformatted the first primary partition as a fat 32 and put freedos on it and it boots just fine. So i have still not determined wether freedos can boot from a logical partition using grub. my advice, based on this experience, for anyone setting up a new system is to make a primary fat partition for freedos. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Partitions freedos can boot from
Still experimenting with freedos I have access to a pentium III (cheap,used) laptop which had some unused space on the harddrive. Originally I had set it up with Ubuntu Linux and with my alternate OS - Amiga/Amithlon which has the boot files in the linux boot partition but has its OS on a hardfile in its own partition. Both worked. It had 4 primary partitions, Ext2 Linux to boot, Ext3 Linux for home, a nonwindows partition for a drive image for another os (amithlon) and a small swap partition. I realized when I wanted to put Freedos on it that I could not have 5 primary partitions. To edit the partitions I had to boot off a Linux CD. Since I could not move anything around the best I could do was to delete/deactivate the small linux swap partition - giving me the ability to shrink the ext3 partition. Then I made a new primary partition and put two logical partitions in it - a fat32 partition for freedos and a small swap partition for linux. The new primary partition is hda3, the new fat partition is hda6. at this time, using grub, linux boots ok and the amithlon boots ok. I used the gnome partition editor to set the boot flag for hda6 to boot. I used the freedos CD to install freedos on the vfat partition. I can boot freedos off its CD and use the vfat partition but I cannot get it to boot from its entry in grub Its entry reads as so root (hd0,5) mackeactive chainloader +1 I have some things to fiddle with but it occured to me to ask this question: Can Freedos boot of a logical partition such as my hda6? If not I will need to reformat the harddrive and start all over. There is not any data I will loose by doing this - just a lot of time so I would rather figure out how to get freedos to work without doing this. ~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos under paralles on x86 mac
OK I took notes this time. Try to install real freedos (not run it inside linux inside parallels) Parallels has you pick options Picked DOS and then under that Other DOS Gave it 192 MB of memory and a gig for its harddrive. All this is happening in the paralles window on the mac desktop. Used the FreeDos 1.0 Full CD I downloaded and burned Feb 27 2007 Installed boot manager. Restart and get the startup screen with the boot manager and Freedos as the choice in boot manager However when I try and boot freedos i get the following: freedos is booting please be patient Invalid Operating System hmm. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos under paralles on x86 mac
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Jim Hall wrote:
JH >For a while, I had an Intel-based Mac at my work, and booted FreeDOS
JH >regularly under Parallels. In fact, I tested/debugged the install
JH >process for FreeDOS 1.0 under Parallels. I didn't have any issues.
JH >
JH >-jh
JH >
I just got access to a Mac osx x86 macbook pro for a while and i wanted to
experiment with parallels.
since we had problems with the freedos 1.0 cd making a working Freedos
diectly with parallels, i installed ubuntu linux under parallels pretty
easily usung the ubuntu alternate cd.
i then used synaptic to get freedos for ubuntu.
first time around xdosemu came up with a keyboard error - thanks to the
instructions you all passed on to me last week i was able to open the
dosemu config file and correct that.
hopever i still get a number of other errors:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xdosemu
ERROR: cpu exception in dosemu code outside of VM86()!
trapno: 0x0e errorcode: 0x0004 cr2: 0x468a5b2d
eip: 0x468a5b2d esp: 0xbfb5ffb5 eflags: 0x00210282
cs: 0x0073 ds: 0x007b es: 0x007b ss: 0x007b
Page fault: read instruction to linear address: 0x468a5b2d
CPU was in user mode
Exception was caused by non-available page
ERROR: Fault handler re-entered! signal=11 _trapno=0xE
ERROR: cpu exception in dosemu code outside of VM86()!
trapno: 0x0e errorcode: 0x0004 cr2: 0x468a5b23
eip: 0x0807d350 esp: 0x0840a2c0 eflags: 0x00210202
cs: 0x0073 ds: 0x007b es: 0x007b ss: 0x007b
Page fault: read instruction to linear address: 0x468a5b23
CPU was in user mode
Exception was caused by non-available page
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
are these primarily dos emu setup errors and i need to go to a dosemu
list?
i am going to try parallels again with the freedos cd but the problem i
had with the setup was that it seemed unable to save the setup
configuration so it could not boot from the parallels install.
i will try again and take better notes
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Re: [Freedos-user] a commennt on Virtual PC
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Jim Hall wrote: JH >I emailed a friend of mine who had Virtual PC on an old Mac - he JH >doesn't have the Mac anymore, but thinks he remembers how to set it JH >up. He suggested you look in the configuration of the VM you defined, JH >and make sure the floppy is bound to the VM. It may not be. The VM JH >can be responsible for presenting a floppy device to the guest OS, and JH >make it look like a regular floppy device. JH > Thanks for the suggestion. Strange for a 2 year old mac to be an old mac JH >Email me off-list if I can help further. JH > JH >-jh JH > JH > JH >On 3/19/07, Bonnie Dalzell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: JH >> When I wrote about my problems with FreeDos under Virtual PC on my Power JH >> PC MAC - the problem being that I cannot figure out how to get Freedos JH >> to recognize the USB floppy drive - several of you berated me for using JH >> Virtual PC because it is an M$ product and told me to go look at JH >> VMWare and other emulators. JH >> JH >> Well as far as I have been able to tell - for a Power G5 MAC using OSX- JH >> Virtual PC is the only game in town unless I want to set it up to dual JH >> boot into Linux - which is not my intention - I want Freedos running in JH >> a window on the Mac Desktop. JH >> JH >> VMWare and Parallels and the other one that was mentioned will only run JH >> on OSX MACs that are the new X86 MACs. My power G5 mac may be a couple of JH >> years old but it is still a powerful computer and I am not at this time JH >> going to get an X86 MAC. JH >> JH >> So i repeat my question - does anyone have experience getting FreeDos to JH >> recognize a USB floppydrive on a G5 MAC that has to use Virtual PC to JH >> get X86 aps running. JH >> JH >> Thanks JH >> JH > JH >- JH >Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT JH >Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your JH >opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash JH >http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV JH >___ JH >Freedos-user mailing list JH >Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net JH >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user JH > ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on vmware
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Russell Button wrote: RB >Jim Hall wrote: RB >> I run Fedora Core 6. I do have VMWare, but I don't often boot DOS in RB >> it. Most of my FreeDOS work is done under Linux DOSEmu. I think you RB >> should be able to do it in Linux DOSEmu. At least, I believe it RB >> solves most of what you are looking for: RB >> RB > RB >Y'know, I hadn't thought of trying it under DOSEmu. I tried to fire up RB >one of my dos apps under DOSEmu once a couple of years ago and couldn't RB >make sense of the documentation. I had the same experience last year but dosemu has been greatly imporved as it now works on my system without my doing anything except letting Ubuntu synaptice package manager install the update. Xdosemu worked much better for me (thanks Eric) than dosemu. I have Ubuntu Edgie RB > RB >The advantages you suggest make it a winner if I can figure it out. RB >I'll go take a look at this approach. I'm certainly not wedded to vmware. RB > RB >Russ RB > RB > RB > RB > RB >- RB >Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT RB >Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your RB >opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash RB >http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV RB >___ RB >Freedos-user mailing list RB >Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net RB >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user RB > ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos installation on dos partition on linux system
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Eric Auer wrote: Thank you for your replies. My main harddrive was set up this way: hda1 a fat 32 1/gig partition - no os in it hda2 - a hardfile for use with the x86 amiga OS emulator AMIthlon hda3 - ubuntu gnu/linux ext3 hda4 - linux swap the boot for the system is out of menu.lst in the boot subdirectory of hda3 and the amithlon isolinux kernel resides there as well as the linux kernel. i have used this method of booting since i installed linux which was installed from the ubuntu extras cd not the regular ubuntu cd Since I already had a small Fat32 partition as hda1 which was not being used to boot anything I did copy freedos from the standalone harddrive to hda1. Then I opened menu.ls and edited in a menu choice as Eric described: title FreeDOS # hd0,0 would be what Linux calls hda1, read the docs: root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 It worked without my haviing to go back to the Freedos CD and try to install from the CD. I really appreciate Freedos and the help from this list. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] freedos installation on dos partition on linux system
when i first tried freedos i took and extra harddrive an put it in a removable drive drawer and installed it as the only os on that drive.then i can boot into it by using the bios to choose to boot off of ide2. however my main harddrive has a dos formatted partition which is large enough for freedos and the ap i am running with it. the freedos installation from the cd says soemthing about the installation on a harddrive overwriting the os so i was very nervous about trying to install freedos on my main harddrive in the dos partition. i do not care if i overwrite everything in that partition but i do not want to trash my linux installation. i can just copy freedos from the standalone harddrive to the dos partition. will that work if i can figure out how then to use chain load to have GRUB present the dos partition as a boot choice. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] a commennt on Virtual PC
When I wrote about my problems with FreeDos under Virtual PC on my Power PC MAC - the problem being that I cannot figure out how to get Freedos to recognize the USB floppy drive - several of you berated me for using Virtual PC because it is an M$ product and told me to go look at VMWare and other emulators. Well as far as I have been able to tell - for a Power G5 MAC using OSX- Virtual PC is the only game in town unless I want to set it up to dual boot into Linux - which is not my intention - I want Freedos running in a window on the Mac Desktop. VMWare and Parallels and the other one that was mentioned will only run on OSX MACs that are the new X86 MACs. My power G5 mac may be a couple of years old but it is still a powerful computer and I am not at this time going to get an X86 MAC. So i repeat my question - does anyone have experience getting FreeDos to recognize a USB floppydrive on a G5 MAC that has to use Virtual PC to get X86 aps running. Thanks ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] xdosemu under Ubuntu Linux can you paste text into window?
I have ubuntu linux and freedos 1.2.2.0 and am using xdosemu.
Can I cut text from a linux document and paste it into the
freedos/Xdosemu "dos in a box" window?
If I can how do I paste it into the window?
On this system shift+cntrl+v usually pastes into a terminal window but
that does not work with the dos in a box window. Cntrl+v does not work
either and there is no menu with the "dos in a box" window to allow a
paste from a menu item.
Thanks again for an excellent ap however.
~~~
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Re: [Freedos-user] keyboard mappin problem.
the reason i use virtual pc is that i already own and paid for it 2 years ago and it is installed and working, and i do not want to pay for vmware. i looked over the vmware site and the installation of the free version is not an obvious task for a person who is only an intermediate computer user. i personally am not fond of m$ products which is why we have the macs, a linux box and my attachment to the amiga os. however i needed to try and get my legacy program running not take two weeks to try and learn about vmware. i abandoned the project on the mac and am now trying to do it on the linux box. i have been more successful as at least freedos in a window under linux can see the floppy drive. now my problem is limited to a recognition of the installed path of the data files the program needs and keyboard problems. Eric Auer has helped. I now have recognition of all the keys I need from my keybaord except for the quote keys which seem to be coming through as unrecognized double characters rather than as simple quotes, i think this is related to the difference between UTF8 (hope I got that right) and old ascii. why they couldn't keep the quotes in the low character set I do not understand. suggestions are welcome and very appreciated of course. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] keyboard mappin problem.
thanks to Eric Auer I have made a lot of progress in getting my legacy program running in a freedos window on linux OS (Ubuntu edgy) i am in the US and have a logitech cordless keyboard YRJ21 however when I am trying to use xdosemu 1.2.2 I am encountering the following key missmap errors colon prints to the consol screen as a T, semicolon as t, = prints as a x s prints as an u t prints as a p i have tried various settings in $_X_keycode and also in $_layout. does the value in $_layout need to be in double quotes, single quotes or parens? i am editing the dosemu.cong file in /etc/dosemu i do not have a dosemy config file in my home directory ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FreeDos on Mac with Virtual PC - find floppy drive.
I have successfully installed Freedos on a Power PC MAC using Virtual PC as the host for it. It seems to be up and running just fine but I cannot get it to recognize the USB floppy drive and I need to install an old DOS Program from a floppy disk. The program requires its original floppy disk to install. I have been able to install and use this program under Freedos (Yeh!) on an X-86 platform so I know FreeDos can deal with the specially formatted floppy. I have tried some other fat formatted floppies in the floppy drive with the MAC with Freedos running and free dos does not seem to recognize them either or to recognize that a disk has been changed unless I unplug the USB floppy and plug it back in. Thanks in advance for any help on this matter. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
