Re: [Freedos-user] QuickView 2.60 with MP4 support released

[Florian Xaver]

Interesting… I think that I read somewhere about this relation between QV’s and 
MPXPLAY’s drivers...




Btw: New driver for various PCI sound chips by Ruslan Starodubov (14 November 
2014)


from http://multimediaware.com/qv/snddrv/





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On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Matej Horvat 
wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:51:53 +0100, Mateusz Viste  wrote:
>> The VESA audio is nice (on paper), I didn't know about it. But I
>> understand it is an INT API, so it would require to have some kind of a
>> TSR that sits in memory all the time, and responds to such INT calls.
> I think this is the most elegant way. This is how packet drivers and  
> USBDOS work. You only have to load the driver once and then it's available  
> for any program. (And while we're at it, let's create a modern standard  
> for TCP/IP TSRs.)
> Maybe we should indeed use the VESA interface, as it's the closest thing  
> to a standard (but where is the documentation?). Another option is  
> DOSSound, although its API is too AC97-specific in my opinion (since  
> that's its purpose).
> The best option for old software would be Sound Blaster emulation drivers,  
> of course. But since trapping I/O ports requires protected mode, it might  
> not be compatible with various extenders (e.g. VSB only supports real mode  
> programs because of this). But I admit that I don't know much about this.
>> The QV approach (if I got it right) seems to be about providing some
>> kind of external files (*.SDR) that are used directly by the main
>> program. I have no idea how it works under the hood, since there is no
>> source code nor public API available online, but the basic principles
>> looks sexy to me.
> They are just renamed EXE files. I don't know how they are called though.
>> The basic idea is that since apparently there are still people investing
>> time and effort into developing sound drivers for DOS (QV, MPXPLAY...),
>> it would be great to somehow make this reusable for other projects.
> I agree.
> BTW, the PCI.SDR driver for QV seems to be based on Mpxplay drivers. Look  
> at it with a hex editor.
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[Freedos-user] QuickView 2.60 with MP4 support released

[Florian Xaver]

Dear all!


Wolfgang Hesseler released QuickView 2.60! He has added MP4 seven years after 
the last version.





Download it and buy it from http://multimediaware.com/qv/index.html


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Re: [Freedos-user] editors.

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Hi all,

in the past I have used mainly these 3 advance editors:

1) Aurora http://www-personal.umich.edu/~knassen/aurora.html
2) http://setedit.sourceforge.net/
3) Necromancer's DOS Navigator http://ndn.muxe.com/

Editor 1) has almost all features and if it lacks one, then it is easy 
to add it due to the support of scripts.
Editor 2) uses Turbo Vision as TUI and supports Linux
Editor 3) is part of my favorite file manager.

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[Freedos-user] Club Dr-DOS - the DOS Wiki is up again

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Hi,

the wiki is up again, still not finished, but I want to announce it 
now.  If somebody is interesting in participating please write me. I 
provide accounts for editing and posting news (it's necessary due to 
spam in the past).

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Re: [Freedos-user] x windows server for DOS

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Since DJGPP is not up-to-date anymore a fresh installation is a pain! (new 
versions of the libraries, small fixes, etc, new versions of the compilers ...)

Bye
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El 11.01.2012, a las 12:27, nospam escribió:

> 
> I find it tedious to download lots and lots of files from the DJGPP site and 
> putting them into the DJGPP directory. In the process you have to make sure 
> that old packages do not overwrite the files installed by new packages. And 
> you may have selected the wrong version needed or just missed some files. 
> Therefore I made a ZIP archive of my DJGPP directory which I know works with 
> Nano-X and FLTK. So you may use that or try the one you already have. I did 
> not modify or recompile any DJGPP code for this.
> 
> If you want to develop with Nano-X you just need the binary version. There 
> is also the source code which allows you to recompile Nano-X. Both versions 
> contain user guides and examples.
> 
> Georg
> 
>> 
>> Looks like a better option, specially because is a current project and
>> is free.
>> I see the download lists and I dont undersand what is that we must to
>> download.
>> 
>> http://code.google.com/p/nanox-microwindows-nxlib-fltk-for-dos/downloads/list
>> 
>> Is needed to download their djgpp package in order the run the
>> calculator and other examples?
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Re: [Freedos-user] x windows server for DOS

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El 11.01.2012, a las 03:38, Ralf A. Quint escribió:

>> I'd love to have you contribute to a GUI project. There have been
>> several. The one with the longest history is OpenGEM, but the web site
>> is now idle (http://gem.shaneland.co.uk/). The OpenGEM6 pre-release is
>> the last we heard of this project, in 2006
>> (http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/gui/opengem/6/).


I wouldn't contribute to this GUI. The framework has no modern features, were 
very nice years back. But now…

I would only contribute to GUIs, which are ports from Linux or at least are 
using libraries for the GNU C/C++ compiler.

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Re: [Freedos-user] x windows server for DOS

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> 
> I don't think that SEAL (regardless under which name and incarnation, 
> there were several IIRC) ever got to the point that it was in any 
> form "usable". Can't call this promising at all. All they got was 
> some nice desktop picture, nothing more...

You are wrong. There weren't many useful programs, BUT it provides most widgets 
and a Desktop! So if somebody had been started writing a GUI program, this 
would have been the first choice. But I think, this GUI were 5 years too late…

Now there seems to be problems compiling the whole framework. 

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Re: [Freedos-user] x windows server for DOS

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Cool! 

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nospam  schrieb:

You may also be able to use Nano-X / NXlib which I have ported to DOS:

http://code.google.com/p/nanox-microwindows-nxlib-fltk-for-dos/

The port of the Dillo browser is based on this.

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

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Hi! Austrian Newspaper: 
mobil.derstandard.at/1325485654057/Release-Freie-MSDOS-Alternative-FreeDOS-11-veroeffentlicht

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James Hall  schrieb:

2012/1/3 Aitor Santamaría :
> Just as a curiosity. Aas my google searches in Spanish by default,
> hours after the release, I have noticed that there are already two
> sites having an article covering that already (I don't know either of
> them personaly):
>
> http://www.neoteo.com/freedos-1-1-nueva-version-del-dos-gratuito
> http://www.gustavopimentel.com.ar/2012/01/freedos-ya-esta-disponible-la-version-1-1/
>

I have the NeoTeo article, but didn't have the other one. Adding now.

Also in Spanish:
http://www.muycomputer.com/2012/01/03/freedos-1-1-esencia-ms-dos-en-software-libre

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Re: [Freedos-user] FTP Server testing needed

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Works with Firefox.

Bye
 Flo

El Thu Sep 29 15:37:45 2011, Michael B. Brutman escribió:
>
> I have made a large round of improvements to the FTP server in mTCP and
> I am looking for a little testing help with it.  If you have a few spare
> moments over the next day or two just try to connect to it and browse
> the file structure.  Using a few different clients will help me shake
> out any new bugs.  Upload some relevant files if you are adventurous.
>
> It can be reached at ftp://96.42.66.188:2021/ - if you are using a
> browser that URL should work as-is.  For command line clients just take
> note of the non-standard port number.  The FTP server is running on the
> slowest machine that I have, which is a PCjr; it if runs well on that,
> it will run well on anything you probably have.  (If you want to see the
> actual machine it is running on look at THISPCJR.JPG in the root directory.)
>
> Changes for this version include:
>
> - scanning for valid drive letters at startup to avoid errors when
> touching floppy drives
> - a major rework of directory handling if you are not an anonymous
> user.  Drive letters now look like part of a normal Unix path so that
> the smarter FTP clients don't get confused by the drive letters and path
> delimiters.
> - The flow control problem with FileZilla is now understood and fixed
> - The wrong file date problem with FileZilla is fixed
> - There is a new "message of the day" feature for putting up special
> notices at login time
> - The local user interface is redesigned and little more friendly
> - Better error checking on the password file
>
> All if this will be part of the next mTCP release, which I'm targeting
> for the next week.  Getting some testing time on it is a good thing ...
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike
>
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[Freedos-user] Twitter...

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Hi,

why is http://twitter.com/FreeDOS_Projekt gone? I liked it!

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Re: [Freedos-user] OT: Howto debug DOS programs

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Hi,

maybe the music player MPXPLAY <http://mpxplay.cjb.net/> could be a
good resource.

Bye
 Flo

2009/8/18 the bcpino :
> I've been using FreeDOS for a while and it works great.
>
> I'd like to write an Intel HDA driver for SCI games (Sierra quests). Ok,
> they work great under Dosbox, but I still prefer using plain DOS.
>
> I consider myself a good programmer, but I've never made any low-level
> programming or debug DOS programs.
>
> Is there any book or information on the net I can start with?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gino
>
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Thank you to kernel developers for new kernel 2038

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> USBDOS device scan is part of install but should
>   only be done AFTER install, no USB devices used DURING install

USB support in FreeDOS?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Thank you to kernel developers for new kernel 2038

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Some years ago I thought that DOS was more or less dead. So I am very  
happy that there are people how continues. Many thanks, I will test it  
after my final exam next week.

Bye
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:33:11 +0200, Pat Villani  wrote:

> I would like to thank all the folks who have worked very hard to
> produce this latest kernel.  Their effort is very much appreciated by
> myself and all the people who continue to use FreeDOS in various
> applications.
>
> I am looking forward to using this new kernel and updating the  
> distribution.
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] getting applications working

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Hi,

> I tried compiling lcal and pcal (at Sourceforge) yesterday and both  
> built fine with djgpp, but they have a djgpp makefile already.  I also  
> tried diffh (also at Sourceforge) with djgpp.  Had to copy the makefiles  
> and .Tpo files from the mingw build over in order to get it to compile,  
> but then it built.  Any good place to share applications or what patches  
> are needed to get them building?

I think learning from those makefiles is the easiest way. One problem is  
sometimes, that the libraries which are needed aren't available for DJGPP.  
But I think Robert and others know more. :-)

Bye
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Re: [Freedos-user] getting applications working

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Hi,

> One last question.  Is there a good forum or mailing list for discussing 
> porting/compiling Open Source applications to DOS?  There are several command 
> line and a few pdcurses applicatons I like.  Would be interested to see how 
> many work on FreeDOS.  I'd rather not reinvent the wheel and try to build 
> them if someone's already done it though.  Was thinking about trying 
> applications like diffh, starchart, gle, midicomp, lcal, pcal, passwordsafe 
> or pwsafe, diction, sdcv, gsar and a few others if I have the time.

Yes: comp.os.msdos.djgpp
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/topics?pli=1>
There are many programs out there, which has been ported from Linux to
DOS using DJGPP.

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Re: [Freedos-user] New Network Howto in FreeDOS Wiki

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>> 

Yes, very cool - thank you!

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Re: [Freedos-user] PocketDOS

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> Volkov Commander: http://egner-online.de/vc/en/

Is very fast.

All depends on which features do to want. Another very fast one is
FileWizard, which has more features than VC.
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.FileWizard

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[Freedos-user] New version of MPXPLAY released

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Hi,

http://mpxplay.cjb.net/

Changelog: mainly bufixes,
https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=6434734

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Re: [Freedos-user] Bootable USB stick

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Hi!

> Nice, but why a blog post and not a new wiki site? I think you should
> move it.
>
> By the way we have already a similar page
> http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.USB
> merge it? Didn't you know that great page? :)

Yes, I will do it in some days.

> If you only want to use FreeDOS you also are not forced to use a
> bootmanager, you can simply install FreeDOS into MBR. It's easy, get the
> HP Drive Key (for Windows) insert a bootable floppy disk into A:\ and
> the rest is self self-explanatory. (If you have no legacy floppy you can
> use Virtual Floppy.)

HP Drive Key didn't work for me.

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[Freedos-user] Bootable USB stick

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Hi,

I fought some hours with a new USB stick to make it bootable in DOS. I
decided to share my experience and wrote following article:

http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Blog.2007-12-20-ArticleBootableUSBsticks
(you can edit it - just click EDIT and use "gast" as name and "gast"
as password).

BTW: "Installation using Windows or Linux" may be better, since I
couldn't only use a computer with Windows.

BTW2: The article uses SYSLINUX since other known possibilities didn't
work with my USB stick, the BIOS or HP's program "USB disk storage
format tool".

Comments are wellcome!

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[Freedos-user] Octave (Matlab "clone")

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Hi,

I created a new page
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.Octave

about using Octave in DOS. It collects some info which I have found out
by now.

This site is given for discussing about how to bring Octave to DOS.
Using HX-Extender or a native DJGPP port. I will make further tests next
time I have some hours available. :-) :-(

I also tried to compile it and it seems that it shouldn't be too
difficult to make a port in DJGPP. But this would result in less
features so using HX extender would be easier (in the first).

Another interesting project (-maybe for 2010 :-) would be porting LaTeX
to DOS...

Bye
 Flo

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Re: [Freedos-user] LFN

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> DOSLFN 0.40e ( haft): enabled.
> Last error: 43 -
  ^ This is the error from DOSLFN?

> Was that to be expected?  I don't see any change in LFN access.

If DOSLFN is loaded without error, any program that supports LFN will
support it.

With 4DOS use
Win95LFN=Yes
in the config file.

If you are using FreeDOS's Freecom then you can use
dir /LFN
But I think that it doesn't support more LFN features...

Bye
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[Freedos-user] New Arachne released with small bug fixes

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Hi,

available at:

http://www.glennmcc.org/a195gpl/

Bug fixes which are related to:
* table
* progress bar
* emails

PS: Octave for DOS would be a cool port (It is a free "version of 
Matlab" ).   :-)

Bye
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[Freedos-user] Arachne v1.95 GPL released

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Hi,

Glenn Mc Corkle released a new version of Arachne.
http://www.glennmcc.org/a195gpl/

Many small bug fixes and improvements. "Arachne now achieves 'full
speed' capability on cable/DSL connections. (she is now reaching speeds
of 320kb/sec on my 3megabit/sec DSL)"

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Re: [Freedos-user] InitDiskWarning

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Hi Eric, hi Jim, hi all :-)

I think that there should be a link at freedos.org's download page to
sys-freedos-linux because many people from the DOS community are using
Linux too and it is very useful (also a link to the USB-stick-how-to).

Bye
 Flo

> Another possible workaround is using sys-freedos-linux or maybe
> makebootfat and force them via command line options to use the
> proper geometry that the BIOS happens to use when you boot. You
> can sometimes modify that geometry in BIOS setup, too. It might
> also help to use a LBA-only boot sector, for example a FAT32 one.

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[Freedos-user] Announce: APEG

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Hi all! :-)What is APEG?APEG is an audio/video add-on for the Allegro game programming library. It provides functions for playing MPEG-1 and Ogg streams identically to the way it handles FLIC files. Beyond that it includes a bunch of extra extensions, including but not limited to opening multiple streams. A tool is also included for creating Ogg media from various sources.Bye  Flo

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Re: [Freedos-user] bios updating

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Hi Tomasz,

I didn't have a problem. 

Bye
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El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 13:18 +0200, tomasz orzechowski escribió:
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> freedos instead of msdos for bios flashing purposes? Are there any
> problems with this? 
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Re: [Freedos-user] CD skips when playing

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> That brings me to my other question, is it possible to configure MPXPLAY to
> play a file or playlist and then close automatically after it's done? I was
> going to look at the manual but I haven't had time, and I didn't remember
> seeing it in there before when I looked, so forgive me if I just missed it.


Yes, I am using it everytime... since I am not using my normal PC I am
not sure but search -X in the manual (there are some options with
-X... , one should it be.)

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS project goals?

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> Is the goal to become only a 100 % MS-DOS replacement or also higher
> goals? Like to become an alternative for desktop end users, a competitor
> to windows/linux?

We have discussed this frequently :-)

100% compatiblity with MS-DOS is the goal of FreeDOS 1.x.  But later,
with 2.x+, there can be other goals.
Many tools of FreeDOS's distro are better than MS-DOS's and even
better than the tools of Dr-DOS.
I don't think that it could be an alternative to windows/linux in all
parts, but in some (I am using): yes. Mpxplay and QV are examples.

I don't think, that FreeDOS needs a big goal, but my opinion is, that
the focus of versions of  FreeDOS > 1.x should be to add as many
featues, with may be exists even now, as possible.

I am afraid that the goal will be "an OS for emulators/virtualizers".
But it should be more :-)

Bye
 Flo :-)

>
> Do you consider big enhancements on the website?
>
> Or do you want just to continue all like the current state?
>
> Interesting questions to answer.
>
> I am asking this because of a upcoming project called nevasca. It's
> basically about to create a new operating system ("distro"), an
> alternative to windows/linux. Currently everything is in planing and
> discussing stage and about to talk with people likely to support the
> project in any way.
>
> The first homepage is http://www.nevasca.co.nr and the forum's website
> is http://nevascaproject.proboards85.com
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Re: [Freedos-user] some questions

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Hallo,

> 2) When I call from within autoexec.bat to test.bat file then after
> test.bat is done it won`t jump back to autoexec.bat, also if exit is the
> last command.

Use the command CALL. f.e.

call test.bat

> Now I have one folder with all my 'shortcuts'. The shortcut is just a
> batchfile which will call the long name. But how can I pass the command
> line parameters correctly?

if you want to call

test.bat param1 param2

which executes a program, use %1, %2, %3... for first, second...
parameter. In test.bat for example:

test.exe %1 %2

Maybe you should use 4DOS...it supports many many command (has a good
script/batch language) and has a very good help.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Running Free DOS on the OLPC XO

[Florian Xaver]

I would buy a OLPC XO if it would support FreeDOS... ;-))

Bye
 Flo

2008/5/17 Steve Holton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Greetings all-
>
> I was wondering if there were any interest in seeing Free DOS running
> on the OLPC XO?
>
> For background, the OLPC has under development a version of Open
> Firmware which will support the legacy INITS Windows requires to run.
> I'd like to be sure these features are useful for something more than
> just their intended purpose, and also to be sure the complete set is
> properly implemented.
>
> The OLPC XO seems much more suited to running DOS-type applications
> and this seems like it could be a good fit.
>
> Forgive me for being new, but I really know rather little about the
> technical requirements, but this seems like a perfect time to learn.
>
> Is there any interest among list subscribers in something like this?
>
> And, of course, are there aspects of this (good or bad) I haven't grasped?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Realtek ethernet drivers. Please help !

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>   Then, please, somebody send me some if available.
>   But I do not know how to get rid of the attachments from my email on this
> group, those with Visual Studio. These do not belong to me.

No, I don't mean herecontact Realtek. They don't offer all drivers
at there homepage.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Good soundcard?

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> You have an old mainboard with isa and it`s working good for you?

No, I have a SB Live! 5.1 PCI soundcard...I had tried the driver for
SB16 emulation, but it wasn't compatible with some drivers so I never
used it. With old mainboards I mean more or less 2, 3 years.


> Very! If there come up some nice informations here we should work off
> them for the wiki.

Good idea!

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Re: [Freedos-user] Realtek ethernet drivers. Please help !

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Sometimes some drivers are only available via email...

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Re: [Freedos-user] Good soundcard?

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Hi,

Yes, I think it is a good idea to ask here and then to buy an old card
(via ebay or others...).

I am using SBLive here, if you only want to use Mpxplay or QV it works
very good. If you  want to use the driver for emulating SB16, I think
that I heard, that an old mainboard has to be used.

I think it would be _also_ interesting which _new_ hardware would be
usefull for DOS these days - which soundcard (which can be used by
Mpxplay/QV), which network-cards, which mainboards etc.

Bye
 Flo


2008/5/17 Michael Reichenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi!
>
> For my pci-only computer Eric advised me to get either SBLive or SBPCI.
> It`s a good time for me to purchase a new soundcard anyway.
>
> Anything I should pay attention?
>
> The problem is there is no real feature matrix, a full comparison of all
> soundcards made by creative.
>
> I found the article Sound_Blaster in wikipedia. But neither in wikipedia
> nor on creative`s website it`s made clear what cards are 'really'
> soundblaster compatible (for dos).
>
> Just the name soundblaster doesn`t mean it`s sb compatible and there are
> still working dos drivers?
>
> Because I have dual boot with XP and Linux I would like to use that
> soundcard also for more modern tasks (such has high quality playback of
> dvd/blueray...). So HDA and 5.1/7.1 would be also nice.
>
> Recommendations?
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on modern hardware

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> Afaik the EFI comes with a full legacy BIOS emulation already. Sure we
> can argue first if EFI is good or bad if we use it our self. In theory
> it sounds like many cool things could be implemented (bootmanager in
> BIOS, sb16/gus emulation, mouse/keyboard ps2 emulation...) - if someone
> willing to write extensions.

But who will require FreeDOS then? All things would be made better
with EFI oder Linux/Win... and I think the emulation of old BIOS will
be bad... but haven't tried it, I don't have a pc with EFI.

> That`s the only thing I never try myself. To risky, if something goes
> wrong I couldn`t blame anyone but myself.

Even if you would download the wrong BIOS update, the update-program
often detects that the downloaded file is wrong. You should try it :-)
But even if it isn't very dangerous - I am not responsible ;-).

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Re: [Freedos-user] Allow Windows drivers to work with DOS, and other DOS services

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2008/5/17 Clinton Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I understand that "drivers" are operating system-specific; but I was
> wondering if somebody could develop an operating system that could act as an
> "adaptor" to allow Windows drivers to emulate computer services for DOS,
> such as, for example running a Sigmatel High Definition Audio on-board
> laptop sound card to be recognized as an SB-16 sound card.

Good old Dr-DOS 8.03 had a taskmanager, which supports some Win9x (or
Win3.11...I don't know now) drivers for network cards. With JEMM I
think it would be possible to port drivers of Linux...(Mpxplay has
ported sound driver). I think the big problem would be to emulate f.e.
SB16. But this would be cool :-)

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on modern hardware

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Hola,

> What are the reason why someone would use DOS?
> - just some of my first thoughts, perhaps what I planed to do
> - classic DOS games
> - legacy applications
> - nostalgia
> - interesting for programmers
> - easy hardware access
> - very lightweight, starts very fast
> - special purpose (backup, scan virus...)

I am booting in DOS because  it is fast. F.e. I can use MPXPLAY which
shut down the pc easily after playing. I am also using it in DOSEMU,
which is great (but no bugless).  Yes, the biggest problem is support
of sound. And in the near future the "Extensible Firmware Interface".


> Some BIOS are stupid like mine. It has really no legacy emulation,
> neither keyboard/mouse nor soundblaster. Blame legacy BIOS, I hope for a
> good replacement (EFI) will full legacy support. The lucky thing is: I
> still had adapters.

Maybe you should make an update of the BIOS?

> But if I look on google I find that most people recommend dosbox or
> dosemu for legacy applications. Very much don`t recommend to mess with
> DOS on new hardware. DOS compatible hardware is recommend.

Maybe DOSBOX is good, if you want to run an old game, but it is only
an emulation of old pcs to play old games which would be to fast. If
you like to use modern programs like me DOSEMU is much much better.

>>> Virtual Sound Blaster is here:
 zap.eltrast.ru/en/dldos.html
>>> VSB sources are here, Assembly:
 cs.ozerki.net/zap/pub/vsb/
>> (found by Spiro, thanks :-))

Thank you. I haven't known the link!

One problem is, that such drivers are big projects and not many people
have the knowledge or time to think about it and develope it. But... I
haven't also thought that there would exist XDMA or HX Extender. So
all is possible.
And I recognize that now are many new users/developers here ... this
is very good :-)


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Re: [Freedos-user] New Freedos and Linux user. Trouble with PPPoE. Please help !

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> Unless you have a specific need to boot your PC with FreeDOS, I would
> recommend running FreeDOS inside Linux DOSEmu. This is mostly how I
> use FreeDOS these days. It works great.

Por favor... don't write such words here - because the chief should
not make it "official", that there "should" be used another operating
system for FreeDOS ;-P Better:  Booting FreeDOS shows how fast and
powerfull it is, but for beginners it could be easier to test it first
under Linux... ;-P

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[Freedos-user] Links2 and Elinks for DOS...

[Florian Xaver]

...is available now!! :-)

Download them at http://mik.dyndns.org/dos-stuff/

Both are small web-browsers! (I haven't tested it now, but I will...)

Please post your results of test!

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Re: [Freedos-user] [OT?] Connect file manager

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2008/4/26 Arkady V.Belousov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  Unfortunately, it uses proprietary libraries (from TurboPower) and thus
>  can't be easily used in legitimate world without some efforts.

I have some questions: Do you know why NDN is closed source? I thought
that it must be under GPL, because DN is under GPL... ?? Is the
Russian scene of NDN very active now?

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[Freedos-user] [OT?] Connect file manager

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Hi,

just played around with this file manager. Beside Necromancer DOS
Navigator this is also a feature-rich program. It has a very good
editor and a html-viewer (with support of hyperlinks). So also
interesting for the FreeDOS projekt - I think :-)

I have been using NDN everytime for developing programs (if I have
time... :-), but Connect is even better (open source, but not under
developement like NDN). If you also want to test it - use the right
mouse button everywhere!!! :-)

http://www.kiarchive.ru/pub/msdos/shell/connect/

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 68, Issue 1

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Hi,

he wrotes, that there are two new groups in myspace about FreeDOS:

http://groups.myspace.com/DEOESE
http://groups.myspace.com/freedos

btw: also in facebook and studivz... ;-)

Bye
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> gracias jim hall por traducir mi primer mensaje...
>
>  envio la direccion del grupo de usuarios que yo cree en myspace. ( en 
> castellano )
>
>
>  http://groups.myspace.com/DEOESE
>
>  o este otro
>
>  http://groups.myspace.com/freedos
>
>  desde ya espero con mucho agrado sus sugerencias
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] GUI for DOS/FreeDOS

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> Quiero saber si puedo modificar Ozone para agregarle algunas utilidades
> y crear una version con otro nombre.

Si, claro. La licencia es GPL. Puedes ir a
http://sf.net/projects/ozonegui y usar SVN para obtener el código. Por
favor sube despues tambien tus cambios. Si quieres subir una
distribución binaria podrás hacerlo con un otro nombre.

If anyone want to update Ozone (under GPL), also under another name,
download the source code using SVN and please upload your changes too.
You can upload the binary under another name tambien at your site...

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[Freedos-user] Arachne GPL 1.93;GPL has been updated

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Hi,

download it from http://cisnet.com/glennmcc/a193gpl/! Updated files
only are available here:
http://cisnet.com/glennmcc/a193gpl/a193upd.zip

What has been changed?

* new core.exe
* new entity.cfg
* new proportional fonts
* new fontinfo.bin

A "font-test" can be found here: http://cisnet.com/glennmcc/ara-gpl/oelig.htm

If you need more info about Arachne and the current status, (maybe)
you will want to read
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.Browsers.

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[Freedos-user] Mpxplay v1.56 alfa3 with ftp-client released (2)

[Florian Xaver]

Please test the new ftp-client in DOS, because the author has only
tested the windows-part...

Bye
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From: Florian Xaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11-mar-2008 11:06
Subject: Mpxplay v1.56 alfa3 with ftp-client released
To: freedos-user 


A new version has been released with many many changes. The main new
 feature is, that it includes a client of FTP!

* Complete changelog:
 http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1964569&forum_id=219198
* You can download it at http://www.freewebtown.com/mpxplay/
* Mpxplay-Forum is at http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=64782

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[Freedos-user] Mpxplay v1.56 alfa3 with ftp-client released

[Florian Xaver]

A new version has been released with many many changes. The main new
feature is, that it includes a client of FTP!

* Complete changelog:
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1964569&forum_id=219198
* You can download it at http://www.freewebtown.com/mpxplay/
* Mpxplay-Forum is at http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=64782

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[Freedos-user] DUGL released

[Florian Xaver]

Hi,

the graphical library DUGL has been updated: http://dugl.50webs.com/

Changes:
global
- Cleaned include files
- Better License.txt
- The GUI, and Sound moved to a new open Source addon library DUGL-PLUS.
  This will keep DUGL a small and fast C/Asm library :)

graphics:
- InitVesaMode Init now any available 16bpp graphic mode.
- SetSurf accepts now a 16bpp Surf as a target drawing Surf.
- Added 16bpp graphic functions :
  * Poly16 : supporting POLY16_SOLID, POLY16_TEXT, POLY16_MASK_TEXT
and the new POLY16_RGB
  * PutPixel16, GetPixel16, Clear16, Line16, LineMap16
  * ClearSurf16, line16, linemap16, putpixel16, cputpixel16, getpixel16,
cgetpixel16, Bar16, bar16, rect16, rectmap16
  * PutSurf16, PutMaskSurf16
  * OutText16, OutText16XY, OutText16Mode, OutText16YMode, RViewOutText16Mode
RViewOutText16YMode,  RViewOutText16XY
- Added RViewOutTextXY for 8bpp text outputting
- Romoved the asm instruction EMMS from all the graphic functions.
  This will increase the rendering speed specially on slow computers.
  Instead the user should call the macro FREE_MMX() when going to use
floating math.
- Added ScanLine and Mask to the Surf structure.
- Fixed a bug on CreateSurf, and CreateSurfBuff computing errnously
the SizeSurf.
- Added the function SetSrcSurf(Surf *S) to set the current source
Surf for all the
  drawing function using a surf, like Poly, PutSurf, PutMaskSurf.
Giving the possiblity
  then to pass a NULL pointer as source Surf.

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Re: [Freedos-user] fdupdate

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Very good - FreeDOS needs your program!

Bye
 Flo

2008/2/14, Mateusz Viste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi!
>
>  FDUPDATE v0.53 is out!
>
>  What's new in v0.53 [14 Feb 2008]:
>  - Added configuration for the download command (was hardcoded to "wget"),
>  - FDUPDATE doesn't switches to the %TEMP% directory anymore,
>  - Changed the configuration file format,
>  - Added german translation.
>
>  http://mateusz.viste.free.fr/dos/en/download.php?plik=fdupdate
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Re: [Freedos-user] Fresh ClamAV/DJGPP Port

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Search for infozip or info-zip.

Bye
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2008/1/27, Blair Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'm sure there must be one compiled with DJGPP...
>
> On Jan 27, 2008 12:54 PM, Mateusz Viste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sunday 27 January 2008, Fabien Meghazi wrote:
> > > > > freshclam.exe
> > >
> > > I think I'm going to try with your package instead of Mateusz Viste's one.
> >
> > That will not help you, as "my" package have exactly the same files as 
> > Blair's
> > one. The files FRESHCLAM.* are in their LFN form, but you can't unpack them
> > correctly (ie with the full filename) in DOS. No matter if you have DOSLFN 
> > or
> > not, there simply isn't any unzip version with LFN support, so any unzipped
> > files will ever be restricted to 8+3.
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Re: [Freedos-user] doslfn and 4dos

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2008/1/19, Fabien Meghazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Have you "win95lfn=yes" in your 4dos.ini ??

I started writing an installer as 4dos-batch-skript and it will ask about it.

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Re: [Freedos-user] doslfn and 4dos

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Have you "win95lfn=yes" in your 4dos.ini ??

LG
 Flo

2008/1/19, Fabien Meghazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi all,
>
> I've got doslfn loaded in autoexec.bat. I can see long filenames in
> volkov commander.
> In 4dos, when doing a dir, I see the 8.3 file name, I can "cd" to this
> dir, and when done,
> I see the long directory name in the prompt.
>
> My problem is that if I create a long directory name in volkov
> commander and copy files in the directory,
> I can't see those files in 4dos.
>
> Eg:
>
> In volkov commander I create directory c:\TestingTest and I copy some
> files in this directory.
> I quit volkov commander and return in 4dos.
>
> In 4dos, dir returns :
>
> TESTIN~1
>
> I do cd TESTIN~1
>
> The 4dos prompt is : c:\TESTINGTEST
>
> I do "dir" and see 0 bytes in 0 files.
>
> Is there a way to make doslfn play nice with 4dos or configure 4dos in
> order to support correctly long file names ?
>
> My partition is FAT32
> I use the freedos 4dos package from 1.0
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Re: [Freedos-user] usb stick

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2008/1/17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> How did you install the boot sector?
> Did you just write a freedos 1.44MB image to it?
> I have a 256MB pen drive that I would like to make bootable if I can use
> the whole drive.

No - there are two ways - one for linux (Eric wrote a script) and one
program for Windows from HP: HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool

I used this program for writing the bootsector and formating of the
usb-stick (FAT32).
It works like a big floppy (I have 256MB-USB-Stick) now. After that I
installed many useful tools and programs...

Bye
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PS: In the FreeDOS-Wiki is un article about this topic.

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[Freedos-user] usb stick

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hola,

yesterday I made a USB pendrive bootable and installed FreeDOS with
latest drivers...
Access of the USB-Stick is very slow - porque of 2 reasons: I have
DOSLFN loaded and 4DOS reads the descript.ion files. Any idea how to
make it faster?
XDMA(32) and lbacache+tickle do not help... I am thinking of using a ram-disk.

I think the ifsdrv of Paragon is very interesting... (supports NTFS
and EXT3)... very bad that it isn´t free available. In which product
of Paragon is it? Partition Manager?

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[Freedos-user] freedos update and 4dos

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Hi,

I have some questions:

1) 4DOS in FreeDOS 1.1: Will it - the package - have the structure of
directory as the other programs? Or not? (freecom is in the
root-directory...)

*) In both cases it should be available via freedos's new update. It
has so _many_ features that it is important for FreeDOS 1.1.

*) And - maybe the configuration should change. F.E.  Win97LFN=yes if
for using with DOSLFN

4) Will it be possible, that FreeDOS's update can start a specific
file (+parameters) after unzipping a package? I ask, porque that would
make it possible to start installation-files. (f.e. a
installation-file which configure 4DOS after unzipping).

5) And...as always: I vote for using 4DOS as main command-interpreter
and freecom as optional. ;-)

*) Btw: I would find it usefull to install DOSLFN as default. DOSLFN +
4DOS are working smoothly for me...


If all questions will be answerd, maybe I will find time to make a
4DOS package for FreeDOS.

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Re: [Freedos-user] webcam software?

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Larry escribió:
> I've an old dell laptop that is barely adequate for
> Linux, and the pcmcia usb card doesn't seem to play in
> Debian etch.
> 
> I was wondering if I would gain by just installing
> freedos. Then the question is, does Freedos on a
> laptop have drivers for the pcmcia, and usb?


Webcam no! :-(

USB-support is possible for USB-sticks and USB-HD with driver or updated 
BIOS. Keyboard and mouse for USB only with newer BIOS.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Gui for FreeDOS

[Florian Xaver]

> I've been in an off-list discussion with Oscar, and now understand his
> project is "clean". It is based on SEAL and Allego, and includes
> Oscar's own contributions. The only mistake was including images from
> Microsoft Windows. And Oscar has corrected that in a new archive file
> that he sent me, so I will post that now to ibiblio so others may use
> and enjoy it.

SEAL??? I had developed for SEAL in the past and am very interested. (It 
is better than oZone? ;-) I have tried to port SEAL to the latest 
version of GCC and Alegro but haven't luck.

Where can I download it? The link haven't worked for me.

> 
> I hate having to ask these kinds of questions to people who eagerly
> want to contribute to FreeDOS, but my most important job is protecting
> the FreeDOS Project. So while I don't like doing it, I believe
> stopping to ask these questions was the right thing to do.

Todo es bien :-)

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Updater

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Thank you!! Very good idea! I will download the zip-files now...

Bye
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Mateusz Viste escribió:
> Hello!
> 
> I wrote an online updater for FreeDOS. It's purpose is to download an index 
> file from the FreeDOS Update server, and compare the list of packages which 
> are on the server whith the packages installed on the system. If it find 
> any "remote" package with a different version than the local one, it will 
> propose to update it.
> The whole program isn't finished yet (v0.50), but is working fine. It have a 
> pre-configured update URL pointing 
> to "http://mateusz.viste.free.fr/fdupdate";, that's where I am storing the 
> newest freedos packages (the url may changes later to something 
> more "official").
> 
> FDUPDATE requires the following packages:
> FDPKG (installed by default with FreeDOS)
> WGETX (may be downloaded at http://mateusz.viste.free.fr/fdupdate/wgetx.zip)
> 
> The FreeDOS updater itself may be downloaded from:
> Bin: http://mateusz.viste.free.fr/dos/fdupdatx.zip
> Src: http://mateusz.viste.free.fr/dos/fdupdats.zip
> 
> Obviously, you need a packet driver and a working internet connection to use 
> FDUPDATE.
> 
> Any comments are welcome!
> 
> bye,
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Re: [Freedos-user] Ozone

[Florian Xaver]

Alejandro Muñoz Fonttz escribió:
> Hi:
> It is possible to build native applications in OZONE? My question
> point to create an GUI environment also capable to run DOS apps and
> native apps smoothly. Perhaps, this characteristic boost both projects
> (FreeDOS and OZONE) :)

There exists no single library, so it isn't possible to link your 
ozoneprogram to a library to get one exe-file with your program.

It is easily possible to make a new distribution for your own program, 
without additional programs, without some libraries, without desktop, 
without additional skins/themes etc. It would be much smaller. As oZone 
is under GPL, this special distribution must be under GPL too.

Bye
  Flo

> 
> Alejandro Muñoz Fonttz
>  Project Engineer
> 
> On Nov 9, 2007 9:38 AM, Florian Xaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Jim Hall escribió:
>>> This looks nice, but I generally don't use GUIs. Has anyone here tried
>>> it? What's it like, and can anyone comment on stability?
>> There exist one bug - which I haven't found with Drag&Drop/Dynamic
>> modules ("DLLs"). (Maybe a problem with my DJGPP installation...(?))
>> Nobody has told me another...
>>
>> It is like SEAL 2 or BadSEAL, but written in C and includes a cleaner
>> kernel and support for Skins/Themes. (I haven't be able compile latest
>> SEAL 2 with latest GCC compiler - many many errors.) It also can handle
>> file-types via file extension. But nothing is perfect - if someone want
>> help - (s)he is welcome ;-)
>>
>> The kernel is cleaner than SEAL because SEAL had been ported to ALLEGRO
>> using a layer between SEAL and ALLEGRO. The latest source code is at
>> http://ozonegui.sf.net.
>>
>>
>> Bye
>>   Flo
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Re: [Freedos-user] Ozone

[Florian Xaver]

Jim Hall escribió:
> This looks nice, but I generally don't use GUIs. Has anyone here tried
> it? What's it like, and can anyone comment on stability?

There exist one bug - which I haven't found with Drag&Drop/Dynamic 
modules ("DLLs"). (Maybe a problem with my DJGPP installation...(?)) 
Nobody has told me another...

It is like SEAL 2 or BadSEAL, but written in C and includes a cleaner 
kernel and support for Skins/Themes. (I haven't be able compile latest 
SEAL 2 with latest GCC compiler - many many errors.) It also can handle 
file-types via file extension. But nothing is perfect - if someone want 
help - (s)he is welcome ;-)

The kernel is cleaner than SEAL because SEAL had been ported to ALLEGRO 
using a layer between SEAL and ALLEGRO. The latest source code is at 
http://ozonegui.sf.net.

Bye
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[Freedos-user] new version of mpxplay with Intel HDA support

[Florian Xaver]

Hola,

from soureforge-forum:

Mpxplay v1.56 alfa 1 is on http://www.freewebtown.com/mpxplay
I've implemented Intel HDA compatible audiocards (onboard chips/codecs) 
handling,
but I could test it on Realtek ALC888 only. Something feedback would be 
great
about the other codecs. Use the -sct option to test your hardware...



I think I can now play mp3s/oggs on my laptop using DOS. Muy bien! :-)

bye

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[Freedos-user] Ozone

[Florian Xaver]

Hi,

I just want to tell you, that a new site for Ozone exists (GUI for DOS, 
Linux and Windows). http://www.phoenixos.net.tf/ (isn't by me).

Bye
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[Freedos-user] Mplayer for DOS

[Florian Xaver]

Hi,

I think this is a very good news: Michael Kostylev ported MPLAYER
( http://mik.mkw.ru/dos-stuff/ ) to DOS. He updated it now to remove a 
big bug. Use it!!! ;-)

Bye
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[Freedos-user] announcements

[Florian Xaver]

hola!

Many new updates are available:

GNU4DOS 0.4.3 released: http://sarovar.org/projects/grub4dos

Jemm v5.67 released: http://www.japheth.de

Updated UDMA drivers! Main change seems to be a merged UDMA/UDVD
drivers into one driver called UIDE: http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/

OpenWatcom 1.7a RC1 released: http://www.openwatcom.org

CC386 version 3.60 available: http://members.tripod.com/~ladsoft/cc386.htm

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[Freedos-user] No read this thread: Fwd: exFAT32

[Florian Xaver]

Please do not read this thread, it is nonsense. :-)

Bye
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From: Florian Xaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 15-oct-2007 14:31
Subject: Fwd: exFAT32
To: freedos-user 


Found it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32#exFAT.
Would it be much work to add support of it at FreeDOS?

Bye
 Flo

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Date: 15-oct-2007 14:29
Subject: exFAT32
To: freedos-user 


Hola!

Read that microsoft released an updated version of FAT32: exFAT32,
which supports files which are bigger than 4GB. How compatible is it
with FreeDOS? No have found info... maybe wrong  name? Read it in a
German newspaper "exFat32"...

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[Freedos-user] Fwd: exFAT32

[Florian Xaver]

Found it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32#exFAT.
Would it be much work to add support of it at FreeDOS?

Bye
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Subject: exFAT32
To: freedos-user 


Hola!

Read that microsoft released an updated version of FAT32: exFAT32,
which supports files which are bigger than 4GB. How compatible is it
with FreeDOS? No have found info... maybe wrong  name? Read it in a
German newspaper "exFat32"...

Bye
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[Freedos-user] exFAT32

[Florian Xaver]

Hola!

Read that microsoft released an updated version of FAT32: exFAT32,
which supports files which are bigger than 4GB. How compatible is it
with FreeDOS? No have found info... maybe wrong  name? Read it in a
German newspaper "exFat32"...

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Re: [Freedos-user] booting FreeDOS - problems

[Florian Xaver]

> > For Windows users, I would recommend VirtualPC or VMWare. I've
> > recently done some experimenting with VirtualBox, but not on Windows.

A perfect setup is

FreeDOS + Linux (f.e. Ubuntu with DOSEMU installed ;-).

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Re: [Freedos-user] SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME !

[Florian Xaver]

Hi,

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:29:53 +0200, WENEFRIDA PEREZ  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Are you sure, that command.com exists in this directory?

> IF SOMEONE COULD POST A SAMPLE FDCONFIG.SYS AND FDAUTO.BAT THAT WOULD BE  
> GREAT ! ;I WANT TO GET AS MUCH FREE CONVENTIONAL MEMORY AS POSSIBLE WITH  
> THESE DEVICE DRIVERS LOADED: JEMMEX.EXE WITH XCDROM32.DLL (WHAT'S  
> BETTER, TO ENABLE EMS OR NOEMS)?, CDRCACHE, LBACACHE AND THE LATEST  
> VERSION OF CTMOUSE.

How many RAM do you have? I have 512MB and my config.sys loads JEMMEX  
without such an option. Then you have some EMS for old programs.

Another way: Have you thought about installing an UDMA driver? There  
exists UDMA since one week ago which also includes a cache. And there is  
also a new driver UDVD which uses UDMA now. I haven'T tested, if you get  
more conventional memory, but this configuration works for me very good.  
http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/drivers.html

btw: you should also think about Eric's FDAPM. With "fdapm apmdos" it  
saves energy.

>> P.S. IS FREECOM BETTER THAN COMMAND.COM AND HOW CAN I GET IT TO WORK ?

http://4dos.hit.bg/. It is very very good ;-) There is a very good help  
included and you will also find info at http://www.4dos.info.

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Re: [Freedos-user] My sugestions after few days of use

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> And I do not want to hurt developers fealings, but
> OpenGEM is useless. I found my old Norton commander
> ant installed it in my FreeDOS. But norton comander is
> not GNU. So it would be nice to see "GNU Midnight
> Commander" ported to FreeDOS.

Much better than Midnight Commander is Necromancer DOS Navigator (NDN). It  
has many many features ;-)
You should have installed it.

If you want to have a modern graphical user interface, try oZone  
(http://www.flox.at.tf, ozonegui.sf.net).
BUT - it is little buggy, so download it only if you are developer or want  
to play ;-)

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Re: [Freedos-user] Clarifications.

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> Nice to hear from you again Jack, now let's put your software to good
> use by actually using it :)

I am using UDVD and UDMA and am happy! :-)

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Re: [Freedos-user] My first crack at FreeDOS

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> I recommend using k3b ;-). Really, for all the nifty graphical
> user interfaces, you need just that - a system with nifty GUI.
> For example Ubuntu ;-). The good things about DOS are at other
> places, and a GUI like OpenGEM or "Windows 3 plus calmira.de"
> is still raw technology compared to the eye candy of Mac OS X.

Please don't say, that someone should use an operating system.
FreeDOS needs a vision, that ALL can be done, else it is dead.. ;-)

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[Freedos-user] 4DOS Build 157 (Version 7.57) — 27 July 2007

[Florian Xaver]

Hi,

there have been many changes since begin of year.
Main changes: Many bug fixes and support of wheel of mices.

to Jim: Could mirror latest version at FreeDOS site?

More info and Download
  ==

http://4dos.hit.bg/

What is 4DOS
  

In my option it is the best command line, not even for DOS. It has much  
more features than BASH, support a very good script language, has  
auto-completion of file names, support long file names (LFN), has a good  
text fewer, uses extended memory, supports colored directory lists (dir  
command)...

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Re: [Freedos-user] Defragmenting NRFS

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>> is it possible to defragment NTFS partitions under FreeDOS?
> No.

I thougth that NTFS4DOS (http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html)  
has a defrag-program included...

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[Freedos-user] uDOS

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Hi,

have you known this FreeDOS distribution: uDOS?
"uDOS is a free operating system built on the FreeDOS kernel with DJGPP.  
uDOS provides an integrated suite of features inluding Perl, Python, etc.,  
as well as a Watt-32 based networking environment and ELF library support.  
Can be run live from CD image."
Looks interesting...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/udos/

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Re: [Freedos-user] Problem to unzip in DOSEMU 1.4

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>> Not all files can be unzipped to their respective directory in DOSEMU

This is a problem of current version, but is fixed in the source. You can  
also unzip with Linux and then copy directory in DOSEMU.

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Re: [Freedos-user] collision between freedos emm386 and memdisk

[Florian Xaver]

> I am not woried at all. I just wonder which should be used in a wider
> distribution... According to this current discussion, it looks like JEMM
> should ;-)


I have an idea. You could have a "compatible" configuration and a
"full feature" configuration. Second one should load latest JEMMEX and
maybe one of the protected mode drivers like XCDROM32 which is
distributed with JEMM(EX). I am using it (or used it, because my hard
disk crashed and I have to reinstall pure DOS. As I want a "special"
DOS, I have to self-install most of programs and drivers without
install-program of FreeDOS 1.0 ;-) and I am glad with it.

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[Freedos-user] FDAPM

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Hi,

how is the status of this package manager tool
(http://fdpm.sourceforge.net/):  It seems to work now?

Btw: There should be a big link at FreeDOS homepage I think. I have
seen the great package manager of Debian and DJGPP
(http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~phekda/richdawe/pakke/) and I think
it is a important tool for every operating system.

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[Freedos-user] [OT] Arachne, FreeDOS 1.0 and DOSEMU

[Florian Xaver]

Hi,

Werner Scholz's Arachne setup detects network perfectly under latest
DOSEMU, but after configuration of email (smtp and pop3) it terminates
with "Invalide opcode...".
Do you have any idea?

I hadn't this problem under "real" DOS...

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1...

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> Many people do not have internet on their DOS PCs, but one
> thing that will happen is that we create a directory on the
> download server where you get all updated ZIPs since 1.0,
> so you do not have to download the whole 1.1 if you already
> have 1.0... Should we also have one big zip with all the
> contents of that update directory there?

Good idea.

> PS: You should assume that FDISK has not been fixed in any
> way. The best alternative is probably SPFDISK at the moment.
> For the DMA boundary helper, I wrote a standalone TSR fix.
> I believe that Bart fixed bug 1793, DJGPP GREP, in SVN. For
> EMM386 issues, upgrade to JEMM386. Several other kernel bugs
> are probably already fixed, in the version on my homepage or
> maybe only in SVN. Japheth.de has a fixed DEBUG afair.

I don't like FreeDOS-FDISK.  I am using Extended FDISK, it is very good  
and has a
boot manager included.

Another choice would be JEMM, which includes both, JEMM386 and HIMEM in  
ONE driver.

Bye
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[Freedos-user] LAME 3.97 final

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Hi,

I compiled the latest version of LAME 3.97 final with DJGPP (had to change  
the makefile).
NTOSKRNL.VXE said, that it is 5% faster than  Blair's version 3.97b2, so I  
thought, I have to announce it. ;-)

http://www.flox.at.tf

LAME is a mp3 encoder. (I used GCC 4.1.2., and compressed it with UPX.  
Because I haven't used NCURSE, the screen output won't be that nice.)

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Re: [Freedos-user] How to block Windows98 IHC diskette label trash / SETVER news

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> I think the trick with the reg file would make a good FAQ item
> if that is okay for Matthias :-). Comments?

If you can sent me Question & Answer I can add it to club dr-dos too.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

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Why does most people like GRUB? I don't like it. :-) I think, there are  
many better boot-managers.

Bye

On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 03:38:30 +0200, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I like the open source program GAG for this.  It doesn't require a  
> partition
> and I find it MUCH easier to set up and configure than GRUB.  It isn't
> quite as pretty, but you only see it for a few seconds.
>
> gag.sourceforge.net
>
> Mark
>
>  -- Original message --
> From: "Jim Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> You can do this with any sufficiently-capable boot manager.  I used to
>> use V Communications' "System Commander", once upon a time.  Don't
>> know if it's still available.  Used to be fairly cheap: about $40
>> (US).  There are probably lots of other commercial utilities you can
>> find at a Best Buy or similar place, if he wants something that comes
>> as shrink-wrapped software.
>>
>> The open source ($0) XOSL does this too, I think.  As you mentioned,
>> so does GRUB.
>>
>> -jh
>>
>> On 6/8/07, Alain M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >>  Install Freedos on the second primary
>> > >>  partition.
>> > >
>> > > Yep, that's what I should have done.  The HOWTO sure gave the
>> > > imporession that it would automagically share a parition.  I'll
>> > > probably jsut shrink the FreeDOS FAT partition and dual-boot
>> > > Linux.
>> >
>> > It's easy on Linux, specially with grub.
>> >
>> > The trick is: have two primary partitions, one of them active, none
>> > hidden. There is a command in GRUB to change tha active partition "on
>> > the fly" prior to boot.
>> >
>> > The advantage is that nothing needs to be special, each run in C: and
>> > the other is still available (at the last letter)
>> >
>> > Alain
>> >
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Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS

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NTFS4DOS has one problem...it isn'T a TSR you can start it at  
commandline or autoexec.bat and it will start a second layer of  
command.com. This will eat memory of 640k but should work with most  
programs.

Bye
  Flo

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:21:21 +0200, Wolfgang Bujatti  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have installed FDOS on disk and can use in the menu only selection 3
> (HIMEM XMS) or 4 (no drivers at all). With the two others it will tell  
> me,
> it cannot find command.com.
>
> Can anyone tell me, how to use NTFS4DOS, so it's loaded automatically  
> when
> FDOS starts.
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Wolfgang
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Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

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XOSL is very good, has a very nice GUI... the only problem is, that it  
must have a FAT16/32 partition, BUT...

after some years I decided to create an extra small partition for boot  
managers. It is saver ;-)

Bye
  Flo

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:27:49 +0200, Robert Riebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Jim Hall wrote:
>
>> The open source ($0) XOSL does this too, I think.  As you mentioned,
>> so does GRUB.
>
> ...or try http://www.bttr-software.de/bootmgr/ ;-)
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Re: [Freedos-user] How to get colorized directory in a dosemu prompt?

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> I had been loading nansi.sys which comes with freedos in config.sys.  It
> was obviously doing something but no color.

4DOS don't need a nansi.sys. Just enter option tool -> display -> bright  
background and -> display -> Ansi -> auto. Maybe you have to download  
latest 4DOS?

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Re: [Freedos-user] On to FreeDOS 2.0...

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> > You would get more something like dosbox than something like dos ;-)
> Is this argument meant serious? Hopefully not, because it is "not very
> convincing". Why should a protected-mode FAT driver make DOS change to a "DOS
> emulator"?

I read some of such arguments in the past (not from you, Eric :-).
Like "this wouldn't be DOS anymore..." or "then it would be like
Linux"  or "I only want to have a MS-DOS replacement" etc. I like
the idea of a modern OS called DOS. I am using all of new
software/drivers which are available. If FreeDOS 1.1 or 2.0 will not
include an "enhanced configuration" I will think of an own
distribution.

DOS stands for me: compatiblity of old and new software, modular
design, possibility of 16-Bit, 32-Bit, real and protected mode. And of
a very very fast and small operating system.

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Re: [Freedos-user] On to FreeDOS 2.0...

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> > *Using 4DOS as standard command tool, and Bash or freecom as choice.
> 4DOS is okay, but I would prefer to have Freecom by default, and the choice to
> switch to bash/4DOS, because Freecom is the most similar to MSDOS
> COMMAND.COM..

But 4DOS is very compatible ... all batch files should work with 4DOS.


> > *Using HX Extender & Co to support Windows programs in DOS
> HX Extender in a default instalation? I would say no... it should be rather
> available as an optional package.

why not? There could be a choice of "standard configuration" and
"enhanced configuration". HX Extender should be a must :-)
Also FDAPM & XDMA should be included in the enhanced config.sys.

>
> For me, batch is just okay :)
>

Of course...but it could be installed too. New users should come to FreeDOS.

> > *Using an Editor which supports large files (like FED or SETEDIT)
> The MS-EDIT from W98 is the best editor I've seen so far. To bad there aren't
> any free clone of it :(

No Synthax-Highlightning. I don't like it.

>
> > *One standard file manager (my choice would be FW or NDN)
> File manager should be optional. Personally, I don't use such tools, I prefer
> to COPY / DEL and REN my files. Of course there should be at least 2-3
> choices for file manager.

Why optional? If it is installed, you need not use it.

> > *No more 386- support
>
> Wow, not so fast!
> The purpose of FreeDOS is to reproduce a MSDOS system on x86 CPUs... Go read
> Jim's manifesto ;-)


Wasn't it the purpose of FreeDOS 1.0? What changed with 8086 code? I
think nothing. So FreeDOS 2.0 wouldn't bring new things to this
computers

> > And the GUI? I would say OZONE :-))
> > Even with the drag'n'drop-bug it has many features and developing of
> > programs isn't difficult.
> Command-line is enough for me,


Yes, but new users like GUI, I think.

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Re: [Freedos-user] On to FreeDOS 2.0...

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> http://sourceforge.net/projects/doszip/ evolves... :-)

I don't like it. First time I tried it it looked ok...but there are
much better file managers out there.

> > *No more 386- support

Most changes, maybe all, which has been made, are for 386+ computers.
So one can use FreeDOS 1.0.

> I don't like this idea, because DOS was made for 808x CPUs. So FreeDOS
> should run on these CPUs too. That doesn't mean, that you can't distribute
> optimized binaries for later CPUs.

> > And the GUI? I would say OZONE :-))

Every OS needs a GUI. Also if you don't use it :-)

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[Freedos-user] On to FreeDOS 2.0...

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Hi Jim, I all!

What should change with FreeDOS 2.0? Some ideas, I think, they have to
be a must :-)

*Using 4DOS as standard command tool, and Bash or freecom as choice.
*Using JEMM as memory manager
*Using HX Extender & Co to support Windows programs in DOS
*PythonD as modern script language
*Using an Editor which supports large files (like FED or SETEDIT)
*One standard file manager (my choice would be FW or NDN)
*No more 386- support

I also think, that it shouldn't be a BIG collection of all free DOS programs.
The distribution should contain less, but powerful programs. (Download
via WGET for additional tools could be possible.) If there are more
than one (like file managers) we could make a poll at freedos.org
where user and developer can choose them.

Network: Latest Arachne (a much more advanced version should be
distributed soon) is a ''must", also tools like WGET. And one big
problem still exists: a driver. So there should be a note at the
installer, which points to FreeDOS Wiki or another site, where a good
documentation exists ( about installing such a driver).

And the GUI? I would say OZONE :-))
Even with the drag'n'drop-bug it has many features and developing of
programs isn't difficult.

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Re: [Freedos-user] announce amdtemp athlon temperature display for dos

[Florian Xaver]

Cool - the only one thing for DOS, that will work on my laptop and not at 
my desktop pc ;-)

I will test/use it!

Bye
 Flo

--On Samstag, 28. April 2007 16:23 +0200 Eric Auer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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>
> Hi all, I wrote a small 512 byte tool which displays the core
> temperature of your AMD Athlon64, Athlon64x2 or Opteron CPU :-)
>
> If you have no such CPU, you get an error message.
>
> If you have a supported AMD CPU, up to 4 temperature
> sensor readouts are displayed, and the average temp
> is returned as errorlevel in degrees celsius.
>
> Check amdtemp.zip at
> http://www.coli.uni-saarland.de/~eric/stuff/soft/specials/
>
> Example: My Athlon64x2 has 2 cores, but each core has "only"
> one sensor, so amdtemp shows "34 n/a 33 n/a" as the 4 temps.
> The first 2 values are for the first core.
>
> Happy testing :-)
>
> Eric
>
> PS: If you know simple algorithms to get the temp
> of other CPU types, let me know. Only CPU built-in
> sensors please, no mainboard sensors supported ;-).
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Re: [Freedos-user] Doubt on batch stuff

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You know, that you can use BASH under DOS? And that with 4DOS a much
better UI is available`?

Bye
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> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007, Geraldo Netto wrote:
>
> > and i would like to know how to rewrite it for command, by now i
> > have this:
> > for %%p in ( entries separated by spaces ) do nslookup %%p >>
> > nslookup_log.txt
> > any idea on how to pass a file as argument?
>
> for %host in (host1 host2 host3) do nslookup %host >> nslookup_log.txt
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[Freedos-user] New version of 4DOS released

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Hi,

it is THE advanced UI of FreeDOS...so I think, this news item is important :-)

Changes:
*Added message.* to global header dependency
*Added high-level @EMS function code (was missing in original sources)
*Added *_alt,_capslock,_ctrl,_lshift,_numlock,_rshift,_scrolllock,_shift
*Updated help file for the above change

http://www.4dos.tk

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Re: [Freedos-user] Mplayer, dos & freedos?

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Hi,  yes it is possible :-)

You need HX-Extender,  all binaries, also the part of GUI . Then you
need some DLLs... I think, not only from Windowsalso from Wine it
is possible.
Then it is possible to play full-screen Videos in DOS using Window's
port of mplayer.

Just ask at the forum if you want to have detailed info.

btw: there may be a problem with sound, because HX supports only SB16
at the moment. If you have a driver which emulates SB16 then you
shouldn't have problem.

Much luck! :-)
Bye
 Flo

PS: The main problem at the moment is the support of sound in DOS.
There are libraries which can be easily ported, or are ported, like
libmpeg2...
If someone has the knowledge and/or wants develope a dirver for
special sound card, please post a note at the Dr-DOS forum (or here).



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> Evening all! :)
>
> While poking about on the internet I turned up this link regarding
> someone who has managed to get a version of mplaye running in dr-dos;
>
> http://www.drdosprojects.de/forum/drp_forum/posts/3910.html
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> Is this even possible? Wouldn't it need a million .dll's from windows x.x ?
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[Freedos-user] 3 announcements... ;-)

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Hi,

Ben Decker wrote at DJGPP mailing list:
"I am also happy to announce that a second release of PythonD. Additionally,
there are many fine module libraries hat have been made available including
Python-opengl and curses.

The URL for PythonD has moved.
It is now http://www.caddit.net/pythond";

 DUGL 1.01 and the new MPEG1-2 Player released at http://dugl.50webs.com/.

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[Freedos-user] NDN released: 2.30.5713

[Florian Xaver]

Changelog can be found here:

http://forums.muxe.com/index.php?showtopic=2989

Download it from there: http://ndn.muxe.com/

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Re: [Freedos-user] Display Mode Change

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Home page of NDN is at  http://ndn.muxe.com/index.php
(There you also find a forum. The developement is very active.)

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Re: [Freedos-user] Display Mode Change

[Florian Xaver]

Have you contact the developer of Necromancer DOS Navigator?

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On 4/17/07, Johnson Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:32:58 +0800, you wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> For the NDN display mode problem, finally I found that after press SHIFT-F10
> (NextVid) the 6th times, screen will have garbage characters on the right
> pane, continue to the 9th time will hang up whole PC, need to press
> ALT-CTRL-DEL.
>
> IBM NetVista Desktop
> 
> CPU: Intel Pentium 4 -1.7GHz
> Chipset: Intel 845G
> Video: Intel 845G(L) Integrated / 320KB
>
> Appreciate Eric or anyone to improve Necromancer DOS Navigator.
>
> Thanks.
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> Rgds,
> Johnson.
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[Freedos-user] Balder

[Florian Xaver]

Hi,

I tested this boot discs. I like it! Some ideas:

*using jemm386
*using xfdisk instead of fdisk
*including doslfn
*including hx-extender

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