Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
To make sure I'm on the same page with you, you have two video cards in your Mac - the stock Radeon HD 5770 that this model ships with, and the the RX580 you added in, yes? And upon boot, the Mac only shows the boot select screen on the built-in card and not the RX580, and you concluded it was doing this because of a firmware issue on the RX580? Assuming all that is correct, then I assume normally when the Mac Pro boots (can't say for sure since I don't have one, let alone one with two video cards lol) the boot screen appears on the main card because that's what the Mac's EFI BIOS is configured to do, and if that's the case there are two possible scenarios: 1) The EFI is set to only display on that specific model (or possibly even serial! You know how Apple is with their hardware lol) of video card, and won't display it on any other (so you're out of luck) 2) The EFI only displays these options on what it sees as the "first" video card, in which case removing the factory one altogether (or swapping their order) might do the trick. I would assume scenario 2 is most likely the case, so I would try removing the factory card altogether and see what happens. If there's any EFI interface you can access, you could try looking for an option for this as well. Maybe it's as simple as changing a setting. Regardless, I don't think VMWare will allow enough direct access to the firmware on any device in the Mac for that method to work. You'll have to boot from CD to update firmware if it does turn out to be necessary to do so. Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, April 2, 2020 1:30 PM, RJ Givens drummerguyservi...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Apr 2, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: >> Hi! Some ideas regarding the possibility to use native >> Mac tools for your RX580 graphics card BIOS update task: >> http://blog.greggant.com/posts/2018/05/07/definitive-mac-pro-upgrade-guide.html#efi-flashable >> https://www.reddit.com/r/macpro/comments/al3kk2/flash_rx_580_to_show_boot_screen/ >> Apparently ATI / AMD is not very helpful, but >> maybe you get some ideas from those forums :-) > > I’ll check those out. > >>> There is no boot screen with the rx580, which is why >>> I need to flash the firmware on it. >> >> Why do you need a boot screen? That sounds like >> some very low priority moment to have graphics? > > I need the boot screen to be able to boot from the Freedos Disk, otherwise > the computer will boot directly into the startup disk. > >>> I got freedos to boot from the disk, and got ATIFlash >>> running, but it’s only seeing the original card. >> >> Does that mean you booted FreeDOS on the raw >> hardware of the Mac? How have you managed to >> do that? And what does original card mean, do >> you have TWO graphics cards? Why not remove >> the non-ATI while you do that BIOS update?? >> And actually why is having a boot screen on >> the non-ATI card not sufficient for you? ;-) > > I booted to Freedos via an CD. Have to access the bootable cd via the boot > screen by holding down the option key on start up. If you don’t hold down the > option key, it just boots into which ever OS is set as your startup disk. > Yes , I have 2 graphics cards, the stock ATI card that came with the Mac Pro, > and rx580. The goal > Is to remove the stock ATI card, but I need the boot screen to access the > bootable cd. I haven’t found a way to execute the bootable cd from within > MacOS or Windows. > They are both ATI card. I swap between Mac OS and windows often and having > the boot screen is the easiest way to do so. The RX580 stock does not have > the boot screen EFI, which is why I am trying to flash it to do so. > >> In case you prefer another language then English >> and this is why your mails often feature extremely >> short descriptions of the situation: Please write >> in your native language, by exception. There are >> people speaking various languages on this list so >> you may be understood better than in English :-) >> Thank you! Regards, Eric > > I think I’ve been pretty clear about what’s going on. Thanks for assuming > English is my second language. > >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
Basically that's because Mac OS contains a hardware abstraction layer which separates the updater you're trying to run (and VMWare itself, for that matter) from the actual hardware you're running. It would be best to add the files you're tying to use to a bootable FreeDOS CD, then boot from that to flash the firmware. In that manner the main OS will not be standing gatekeeper and blocking your path. Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 2:25 AM, RJ Givens drummerguyservi...@gmail.com wrote: > I figured that part out. Now my issue is ATIFLASH says there is no card > detected. > Any insight on that? > >> On Mar 31, 2020, at 11:23 PM, Felix G. constantlyvaria...@gmail.com wrote: >> Hi! >> The C: drive does not map directly to a folder on your host machine. >> What I would suggest, because it worked great for me, is that you >> create an ISO image containing your files then mount that to your VM >> as a CD ROM. >> Note that files you copy off of CD ROM in the DOS context will have >> the read-only attribute set, which may need to be removed with attrib >> for some applications. >> Hope this helps. >> Best, >> Felix >> >>> Am Mi., 1. Apr. 2020 um 00:25 Uhr schrieb RJ Givens >>> drummerguyservi...@gmail.com: >>> I’ve just installed Freedos 1.2 in VMWare on OSX. Does anyone know where I >>> might be able to find the c: drive location? >>> I need to flash a bios on my video card and need to drop some files in the >>> FreeDos C: >>> Freedos-user mailing list >>> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
Hi Regan, I'll be happy to assist with that within the constraints of limited time and resources. Let's take it to private email from here on out. Best, Felix Am Do., 2. Apr. 2020 um 23:22 Uhr schrieb Regan Russell : > > Hi Felix, > I am am app developer. I am working on a bank app. A blind person > has threatened to take the bank to a special discrimination court. I am > working to fix the accessibility aspects of the app. I got the idea to write > a book on accessibility for iOS and Android developers. I might put it on > iBooks or approach publishers. > Can I talk to you about it? Maybe you could be a reviewer? > > Regan > > > From: Felix G. > Sent: Thursday, 2 April 2020 8:23 PM > To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. > > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] C: location > > Hi, > you may use the boot screen blind, with VoiceOver on the Mac. You can > start it with cmd+f5. > I actually am blind so I know it works. > HTH, > Felix > > Am Mi., 1. Apr. 2020 um 20:32 Uhr schrieb RJ Givens > : > > > > Ok, so I got ATIFlash to run form > > Booting by disk, but it is not seeing the RX580, it is only seeing the > > original video card ( have to leave it in otherwise I don’t get the boot > > screen when holding down option) > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 1, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > >> Would that work if I have a second graphics card ? > > > > > > To be honest, I am pessimistic. I once tried to use > > > the real graphics card of a commercial VMWare server > > > workstation for GPU calculations by making it visible > > > to the OS inside the virtual computer and just got the > > > ability to crash the real hardware :-p I actually had > > > more luck to tune a DJGPP app into using 2 PCI or AGP > > > graphics cards simultaneously by PCI bus config tricks. > > > > > >> If the Mac Pro 5,1 would let you boot from USB, > > >> this wouldn’t be an issue. > > > > > > Or from CD or DVD, but I guess the Mac firmware has > > > never introduced PC compatible BIOS since they went > > > for PC compatible CPU? So, as said, you would have > > > to first load a CSM BIOS layer and I have no idea > > > whether that ever has been done successfully yet? > > > > > > Given that Mac are a lot more expensive than PC > > > anyway, you could maybe just acquire any simple > > > new or 2nd hand PC with the right slot (PCIe?) > > > for the graphics card, plug it there, boot DOS > > > from CD or USB, update your graphics BIOS, put > > > the graphics card back in the PC... Few 100 USD > > > should be plenty. Or of course ask any friend or > > > shop whether they let you use their PC for the > > > task, which should take at most a few hours to > > > figure out and then just a few minutes to do? > > > > > > Regards, Eric > > > > > > PS: It surprises me that you have no Mac version > > > of the VGA BIOS update installer tool available. > > > Maybe you just need the right Mac terminology to > > > find whatever Apple calls the DOS tool you have? > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Freedos-user mailing list > > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
Hi Felix, I am am app developer. I am working on a bank app. A blind person has threatened to take the bank to a special discrimination court. I am working to fix the accessibility aspects of the app. I got the idea to write a book on accessibility for iOS and Android developers. I might put it on iBooks or approach publishers. Can I talk to you about it? Maybe you could be a reviewer? Regan From: Felix G. Sent: Thursday, 2 April 2020 8:23 PM To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] C: location Hi, you may use the boot screen blind, with VoiceOver on the Mac. You can start it with cmd+f5. I actually am blind so I know it works. HTH, Felix Am Mi., 1. Apr. 2020 um 20:32 Uhr schrieb RJ Givens : > > Ok, so I got ATIFlash to run form > Booting by disk, but it is not seeing the RX580, it is only seeing the > original video card ( have to leave it in otherwise I don’t get the boot > screen when holding down option) > > > > > > On Apr 1, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > > > > Hi! > > > >> Would that work if I have a second graphics card ? > > > > To be honest, I am pessimistic. I once tried to use > > the real graphics card of a commercial VMWare server > > workstation for GPU calculations by making it visible > > to the OS inside the virtual computer and just got the > > ability to crash the real hardware :-p I actually had > > more luck to tune a DJGPP app into using 2 PCI or AGP > > graphics cards simultaneously by PCI bus config tricks. > > > >> If the Mac Pro 5,1 would let you boot from USB, > >> this wouldn’t be an issue. > > > > Or from CD or DVD, but I guess the Mac firmware has > > never introduced PC compatible BIOS since they went > > for PC compatible CPU? So, as said, you would have > > to first load a CSM BIOS layer and I have no idea > > whether that ever has been done successfully yet? > > > > Given that Mac are a lot more expensive than PC > > anyway, you could maybe just acquire any simple > > new or 2nd hand PC with the right slot (PCIe?) > > for the graphics card, plug it there, boot DOS > > from CD or USB, update your graphics BIOS, put > > the graphics card back in the PC... Few 100 USD > > should be plenty. Or of course ask any friend or > > shop whether they let you use their PC for the > > task, which should take at most a few hours to > > figure out and then just a few minutes to do? > > > > Regards, Eric > > > > PS: It surprises me that you have no Mac version > > of the VGA BIOS update installer tool available. > > Maybe you just need the right Mac terminology to > > find whatever Apple calls the DOS tool you have? > > > > > > > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
> On Apr 2, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi! Some ideas regarding the possibility to use native > Mac tools for your RX580 graphics card BIOS update task: > > http://blog.greggant.com/posts/2018/05/07/definitive-mac-pro-upgrade-guide.html#efi-flashable > > https://www.reddit.com/r/macpro/comments/al3kk2/flash_rx_580_to_show_boot_screen/ > > Apparently ATI / AMD is not very helpful, but > maybe you get some ideas from those forums :-) I’ll check those out. > >> There is no boot screen with the rx580, which is why >> I need to flash the firmware on it. > > Why do you need a boot screen? That sounds like > some very low priority moment to have graphics? > I need the boot screen to be able to boot from the Freedos Disk, otherwise the computer will boot directly into the startup disk. >> I got freedos to boot from the disk, and got ATIFlash >> running, but it’s only seeing the original card. > > Does that mean you booted FreeDOS on the raw > hardware of the Mac? How have you managed to > do that? And what does original card mean, do > you have TWO graphics cards? Why not remove > the non-ATI while you do that BIOS update?? > > And actually why is having a boot screen on > the non-ATI card not sufficient for you? ;-) > I booted to Freedos via an CD. Have to access the bootable cd via the boot screen by holding down the option key on start up. If you don’t hold down the option key, it just boots into which ever OS is set as your startup disk. Yes , I have 2 graphics cards, the stock ATI card that came with the Mac Pro, and rx580. The goal Is to remove the stock ATI card, but I need the boot screen to access the bootable cd.I haven’t found a way to execute the bootable cd from within MacOS or Windows. They are both ATI card. I swap between Mac OS and windows often and having the boot screen is the easiest way to do so. The RX580 stock does not have the boot screen EFI, which is why I am trying to flash it to do so. > In case you prefer another language then English > and this is why your mails often feature extremely > short descriptions of the situation: Please write > in your native language, by exception. There are > people speaking various languages on this list so > you may be understood better than in English :-) > > Thank you! Regards, Eric > I think I’ve been pretty clear about what’s going on. Thanks for assuming English is my second language. > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
Hi! Some ideas regarding the possibility to use native Mac tools for your RX580 graphics card BIOS update task: http://blog.greggant.com/posts/2018/05/07/definitive-mac-pro-upgrade-guide.html#efi-flashable https://www.reddit.com/r/macpro/comments/al3kk2/flash_rx_580_to_show_boot_screen/ Apparently ATI / AMD is not very helpful, but maybe you get some ideas from those forums :-) > There is no boot screen with the rx580, which is why > I need to flash the firmware on it. Why do you need a boot screen? That sounds like some very low priority moment to have graphics? > I got freedos to boot from the disk, and got ATIFlash > running, but it’s only seeing the original card. Does that mean you booted FreeDOS on the raw hardware of the Mac? How have you managed to do that? And what does original card mean, do you have TWO graphics cards? Why not remove the non-ATI while you do that BIOS update?? And actually why is having a boot screen on the non-ATI card not sufficient for you? ;-) In case you prefer another language then English and this is why your mails often feature extremely short descriptions of the situation: Please write in your native language, by exception. There are people speaking various languages on this list so you may be understood better than in English :-) Thank you! Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
There is no boot screen with the rx580, which is why I need to flash the firmware on it. I got freedos to boot from the disk, and got ATIFlash running, but it’s only seeing the original card. My guess is the current RX580 firmware doesn’t boot in the boot screen. > On Apr 2, 2020, at 2:24 AM, Felix G. wrote: > > Hi, > you may use the boot screen blind, with VoiceOver on the Mac. You can > start it with cmd+f5. > I actually am blind so I know it works. > HTH, > Felix > >> Am Mi., 1. Apr. 2020 um 20:32 Uhr schrieb RJ Givens >> : >> >> Ok, so I got ATIFlash to run form >> Booting by disk, but it is not seeing the RX580, it is only seeing the >> original video card ( have to leave it in otherwise I don’t get the boot >> screen when holding down option) >> >> >> >> On Apr 1, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Eric Auer wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi! >>> Would that work if I have a second graphics card ? >>> >>> To be honest, I am pessimistic. I once tried to use >>> the real graphics card of a commercial VMWare server >>> workstation for GPU calculations by making it visible >>> to the OS inside the virtual computer and just got the >>> ability to crash the real hardware :-p I actually had >>> more luck to tune a DJGPP app into using 2 PCI or AGP >>> graphics cards simultaneously by PCI bus config tricks. >>> If the Mac Pro 5,1 would let you boot from USB, this wouldn’t be an issue. >>> >>> Or from CD or DVD, but I guess the Mac firmware has >>> never introduced PC compatible BIOS since they went >>> for PC compatible CPU? So, as said, you would have >>> to first load a CSM BIOS layer and I have no idea >>> whether that ever has been done successfully yet? >>> >>> Given that Mac are a lot more expensive than PC >>> anyway, you could maybe just acquire any simple >>> new or 2nd hand PC with the right slot (PCIe?) >>> for the graphics card, plug it there, boot DOS >>> from CD or USB, update your graphics BIOS, put >>> the graphics card back in the PC... Few 100 USD >>> should be plenty. Or of course ask any friend or >>> shop whether they let you use their PC for the >>> task, which should take at most a few hours to >>> figure out and then just a few minutes to do? >>> >>> Regards, Eric >>> >>> PS: It surprises me that you have no Mac version >>> of the VGA BIOS update installer tool available. >>> Maybe you just need the right Mac terminology to >>> find whatever Apple calls the DOS tool you have? >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Freedos-user mailing list >>> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> >> >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
Hi, you may use the boot screen blind, with VoiceOver on the Mac. You can start it with cmd+f5. I actually am blind so I know it works. HTH, Felix Am Mi., 1. Apr. 2020 um 20:32 Uhr schrieb RJ Givens : > > Ok, so I got ATIFlash to run form > Booting by disk, but it is not seeing the RX580, it is only seeing the > original video card ( have to leave it in otherwise I don’t get the boot > screen when holding down option) > > > > > > On Apr 1, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > > > > Hi! > > > >> Would that work if I have a second graphics card ? > > > > To be honest, I am pessimistic. I once tried to use > > the real graphics card of a commercial VMWare server > > workstation for GPU calculations by making it visible > > to the OS inside the virtual computer and just got the > > ability to crash the real hardware :-p I actually had > > more luck to tune a DJGPP app into using 2 PCI or AGP > > graphics cards simultaneously by PCI bus config tricks. > > > >> If the Mac Pro 5,1 would let you boot from USB, > >> this wouldn’t be an issue. > > > > Or from CD or DVD, but I guess the Mac firmware has > > never introduced PC compatible BIOS since they went > > for PC compatible CPU? So, as said, you would have > > to first load a CSM BIOS layer and I have no idea > > whether that ever has been done successfully yet? > > > > Given that Mac are a lot more expensive than PC > > anyway, you could maybe just acquire any simple > > new or 2nd hand PC with the right slot (PCIe?) > > for the graphics card, plug it there, boot DOS > > from CD or USB, update your graphics BIOS, put > > the graphics card back in the PC... Few 100 USD > > should be plenty. Or of course ask any friend or > > shop whether they let you use their PC for the > > task, which should take at most a few hours to > > figure out and then just a few minutes to do? > > > > Regards, Eric > > > > PS: It surprises me that you have no Mac version > > of the VGA BIOS update installer tool available. > > Maybe you just need the right Mac terminology to > > find whatever Apple calls the DOS tool you have? > > > > > > > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
Ok, so I got ATIFlash to run form Booting by disk, but it is not seeing the RX580, it is only seeing the original video card ( have to leave it in otherwise I don’t get the boot screen when holding down option) > On Apr 1, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi! > >> Would that work if I have a second graphics card ? > > To be honest, I am pessimistic. I once tried to use > the real graphics card of a commercial VMWare server > workstation for GPU calculations by making it visible > to the OS inside the virtual computer and just got the > ability to crash the real hardware :-p I actually had > more luck to tune a DJGPP app into using 2 PCI or AGP > graphics cards simultaneously by PCI bus config tricks. > >> If the Mac Pro 5,1 would let you boot from USB, >> this wouldn’t be an issue. > > Or from CD or DVD, but I guess the Mac firmware has > never introduced PC compatible BIOS since they went > for PC compatible CPU? So, as said, you would have > to first load a CSM BIOS layer and I have no idea > whether that ever has been done successfully yet? > > Given that Mac are a lot more expensive than PC > anyway, you could maybe just acquire any simple > new or 2nd hand PC with the right slot (PCIe?) > for the graphics card, plug it there, boot DOS > from CD or USB, update your graphics BIOS, put > the graphics card back in the PC... Few 100 USD > should be plenty. Or of course ask any friend or > shop whether they let you use their PC for the > task, which should take at most a few hours to > figure out and then just a few minutes to do? > > Regards, Eric > > PS: It surprises me that you have no Mac version > of the VGA BIOS update installer tool available. > Maybe you just need the right Mac terminology to > find whatever Apple calls the DOS tool you have? > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
Hi! > Would that work if I have a second graphics card ? To be honest, I am pessimistic. I once tried to use the real graphics card of a commercial VMWare server workstation for GPU calculations by making it visible to the OS inside the virtual computer and just got the ability to crash the real hardware :-p I actually had more luck to tune a DJGPP app into using 2 PCI or AGP graphics cards simultaneously by PCI bus config tricks. > If the Mac Pro 5,1 would let you boot from USB, > this wouldn’t be an issue. Or from CD or DVD, but I guess the Mac firmware has never introduced PC compatible BIOS since they went for PC compatible CPU? So, as said, you would have to first load a CSM BIOS layer and I have no idea whether that ever has been done successfully yet? Given that Mac are a lot more expensive than PC anyway, you could maybe just acquire any simple new or 2nd hand PC with the right slot (PCIe?) for the graphics card, plug it there, boot DOS from CD or USB, update your graphics BIOS, put the graphics card back in the PC... Few 100 USD should be plenty. Or of course ask any friend or shop whether they let you use their PC for the task, which should take at most a few hours to figure out and then just a few minutes to do? Regards, Eric PS: It surprises me that you have no Mac version of the VGA BIOS update installer tool available. Maybe you just need the right Mac terminology to find whatever Apple calls the DOS tool you have? ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
Would that work if I have a second graphics card ? If the Mac Pro 5,1 would let you boot from USB, this wouldn’t be an issue. > On Apr 1, 2020, at 3:55 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi RJ, > > the short story is that VMWare creates a fully virtual > computer. You can not install VMWare on Apple to use a > DOS program to update the BIOS of your REAL VGA card. > > You would have to run the BIOS update tool on real > hardware. Maybe you can find an Apple tool for VGA > BIOS updates? Or you could plug the card in a PC > where you can boot DOS from USB stick or CD-ROM > on the real hardware to run your update tool? > > In theory, you can configure the commercial versions > of VMWare to make the actual graphics card visible > from the virtual computer, but then you have to stop > using the graphics card on the host OS and I do not > think you can run VMWare on your Mac while Mac OS is > not allowed to use your graphics card. Maybe if you > had TWO graphics cards and could tell Mac OS to not > use the one which you want to update... > > I think Mac OS has only newer-than-BIOS firmware, but > it might be possible to load a CSM firmware extension > to have PC BIOS compatibility and boot DOS on the Mac. > But I have no idea whether that can actually be done? > > Regards, Eric > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
On Tue, 31 Mar 2020, RJ Givens wrote: I figured that part out. Now my issue is ATIFLASH says there is no card detected. Any insight on that? You cannot update the physical video card from within a virtual machine. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_! ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
Hi RJ, the short story is that VMWare creates a fully virtual computer. You can not install VMWare on Apple to use a DOS program to update the BIOS of your REAL VGA card. You would have to run the BIOS update tool on real hardware. Maybe you can find an Apple tool for VGA BIOS updates? Or you could plug the card in a PC where you can boot DOS from USB stick or CD-ROM on the real hardware to run your update tool? In theory, you can configure the commercial versions of VMWare to make the actual graphics card visible from the virtual computer, but then you have to stop using the graphics card on the host OS and I do not think you can run VMWare on your Mac while Mac OS is not allowed to use your graphics card. Maybe if you had TWO graphics cards and could tell Mac OS to not use the one which you want to update... I think Mac OS has only newer-than-BIOS firmware, but it might be possible to load a CSM firmware extension to have PC BIOS compatibility and boot DOS on the Mac. But I have no idea whether that can actually be done? Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
I figured that part out. Now my issue is ATIFLASH says there is no card detected. Any insight on that? > On Mar 31, 2020, at 11:23 PM, Felix G. wrote: > > Hi! > The C: drive does not map directly to a folder on your host machine. > What I would suggest, because it worked great for me, is that you > create an ISO image containing your files then mount that to your VM > as a CD ROM. > Note that files you copy off of CD ROM in the DOS context will have > the read-only attribute set, which may need to be removed with attrib > for some applications. > Hope this helps. > Best, > Felix > >> Am Mi., 1. Apr. 2020 um 00:25 Uhr schrieb RJ Givens >> : >> >> I’ve just installed Freedos 1.2 in VMWare on OSX. Does anyone know where I >> might be able to find the c: drive location? >> >> I need to flash a bios on my video card and need to drop some files in the >> FreeDos C: >> >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
Hi! The C: drive does not map directly to a folder on your host machine. What I would suggest, because it worked great for me, is that you create an ISO image containing your files then mount that to your VM as a CD ROM. Note that files you copy off of CD ROM in the DOS context will have the read-only attribute set, which may need to be removed with attrib for some applications. Hope this helps. Best, Felix Am Mi., 1. Apr. 2020 um 00:25 Uhr schrieb RJ Givens : > > I’ve just installed Freedos 1.2 in VMWare on OSX. Does anyone know where I > might be able to find the c: drive location? > > I need to flash a bios on my video card and need to drop some files in the > FreeDos C: > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
