[Freesurfer] Cannot allocate memory / can't allocate region

2009-06-30 Thread Jürgen Hänggi
Dear FS experts

I am using high resolution (0.75x0.75x0.75 mm) data within FS but the
following error occurred:

...
vertex spacing 0.69 +- 0.21 (0.00-->6.06) (max @ vno 265258 --> 114262)
face area 0.19 +- 0.10 (0.00-->4.49)
mris_make_surfaces(49536) malloc: *** mmap(size=1355776) failed (error
code=12)
*** error: can't allocate region
*** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
MRIalloc(937, 361, 612): could not allocate 1353028 bytes for 356th slice

000: dt: 0., sse=4822516.5, rms=2.25
rms = 2.94, time step reduction 1 of 3 to 0.250...
043: dt: 0.2500, sse=4898456.5, rms=1.89
rms = 1.86, time step reduction 2 of 3 to 0.125...
044: dt: 0.2500, sse=5293477.5, rms=1.86
045: dt: 0.1250, sse=5277681.5, rms=1.76
046: dt: 0.1250, sse=5237215.5, rms=1.70
rms = 1.69, time step reduction 3 of 3 to 0.062...
047: dt: 0.1250, sse=5270459.0, rms=1.69
positioning took 16.1 minutes
inhibiting deformation at non-cortical midline structures...
correcting aseg with surfaces...
Cannot allocate memory
Darwin juergen-haenggis-mac-pro.local 9.7.0 Darwin Kernel Version 9.7.0: Tue
Mar 31 22:52:17 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.12.14~1/RELEASE_I386 i386

recon-all exited with ERRORS at Wed Jul  1 04:20:34 CEST 2009

[juergen-haenggis-mac-pro:subjects/roman_p_highres_div100/mri]

I am using FS 4.4, Mac OSX 10.5, 8 GB RAM, memoryuse unlimited, descriptors
8192

The process terminated before all RAM is active and no swap is used.

Any idea?

Thanks in advance
Regards
Jürgen


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[Freesurfer] Re: mkbrainmask not finding fslmaths

2009-06-30 Thread dahlia
Perhaps I should have asked:
Do I need to separately install FSL?
Thanks

> Hi,
>
> I ran the following preproc-sess command and mkbrainmask-sess failed, with
> an error message of not finding fsmaths. I don't know where to be looking
> for this file and what previous command should have generated it. Can
> anyone help me out?
>
> Thanks!
> Dahlia.
>
> I ran:
> preproc-sess -sf sessid_subj31.txt -df sesspar -fwhm 5
>
> The error message was:
> ERROR: cannot find either fslmaths for avwmaths
> ERROR: mkbrainmask failed
> ERROR: mkbrainmask-sess failed
>
>
> mkbrainmask-sess.log says:
> mkbrainmask-sess
> $Id: mkbrainmask-sess,v 1.12.2.1 2008/10/02 21:56:15 greve Exp $
> Linux mbc.stanford.edu 2.6.22.9-61.fc6 #1 SMP Thu Sep 27 18:07:59 EDT 2007
> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> Tue Jun 30 11:01:46 PDT 2009
> /home/dahlia.sharon/functionals/fba_study_mtloc
> -maskstem brain -fsd bold -s mtloc_19may07 -d
> /home/dahlia.sharon/functionals/subj31 -update
>
> This is the command preproc-sess invoked:
> mkbrainmask -i 025/f.bhdr -o masks/brain.nii -thresh 0.1 -ndil 1 -nerode 0
>
> The data is not on the network so I can't give paths.
>
>
>

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[Freesurfer] MNI/Startup.PM error in FreeSurfer 4.4.0

2009-06-30 Thread Matthew Koh


Hello. I just installed FreeSurfer v4.4.0, following all the directions to
the letter. When I run recon-all -i  -s  -autorecon1,
I get the following error:

Can't locate MNI/Startup.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/System/Library/Perl/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level
/System/Library/Perl/5.8.6 /Library/Perl/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level
/Library/Perl/5.8.6 /Library/Perl
/Network/Library/Perl/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level
/Network/Library/Perl/5.8.6 /Network/Library/Perl
/System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level
/System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.8.6 /Library/Perl/5.8.1 .) at
/Applications/freesurfer/mni/bin/nu_correct line 37.

If it matters, the value of $PERL5LIB is:

/Applications/freesurfer/mni/lib/../System/Library/Perl/5.8.6

and I'm working in OS X 10.4.11 on a PowerPC.

Anyone have any ideas?




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Re: [Freesurfer] freesurfer dice coefficient calculation

2009-06-30 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Jared,

yes, the talairach.m3z is the intersubject registration we use for 
generating the aseg, and you could use it to compute a dice.


cheers
Bruce


On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Jared Price wrote:


Hi freesurfer masters,
Quick question on the way freesurfer calculates the dice coefficient.  I am 
interested in getting an INTERsubject dice coefficient as a measure of 
similarity between 2 subjects.  My question is, do I need to do an 
INTERsubject registration step before calculating the dice in freesurfer?  In 
other words, does freesurfer do any kind of INTERsubject registration at the 
level of the aseg.mgz file?  If it does not, when it calculates an 
intersubject dice coefficient, a low result could be due simply to poor 
alignment between scans and not poor anatomical correlation.  If anyone has 
details please let me know.

Cheers,
Jared
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[Freesurfer] mkbrainmask not finding fslmaths

2009-06-30 Thread dahlia
Hi,

I ran the following preproc-sess command and mkbrainmask-sess failed, with
an error message of not finding fsmaths. I don't know where to be looking
for this file and what previous command should have generated it. Can
anyone help me out?

Thanks!
Dahlia.

I ran:
preproc-sess -sf sessid_subj31.txt -df sesspar -fwhm 5

The error message was:
ERROR: cannot find either fslmaths for avwmaths
ERROR: mkbrainmask failed
ERROR: mkbrainmask-sess failed


mkbrainmask-sess.log says:
mkbrainmask-sess
$Id: mkbrainmask-sess,v 1.12.2.1 2008/10/02 21:56:15 greve Exp $
Linux mbc.stanford.edu 2.6.22.9-61.fc6 #1 SMP Thu Sep 27 18:07:59 EDT 2007
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Tue Jun 30 11:01:46 PDT 2009
/home/dahlia.sharon/functionals/fba_study_mtloc
-maskstem brain -fsd bold -s mtloc_19may07 -d
/home/dahlia.sharon/functionals/subj31 -update

This is the command preproc-sess invoked:
mkbrainmask -i 025/f.bhdr -o masks/brain.nii -thresh 0.1 -ndil 1 -nerode 0

The data is not on the network so I can't give paths.


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[Freesurfer] freesurfer dice coefficient calculation

2009-06-30 Thread Jared Price

Hi freesurfer masters,
Quick question on the way freesurfer calculates the dice coefficient.  I 
am interested in getting an INTERsubject dice coefficient as a measure 
of similarity between 2 subjects.  My question is, do I need to do an 
INTERsubject registration step before calculating the dice in 
freesurfer?  In other words, does freesurfer do any kind of INTERsubject 
registration at the level of the aseg.mgz file?  If it does not, when it 
calculates an intersubject dice coefficient, a low result could be due 
simply to poor alignment between scans and not poor anatomical 
correlation.  If anyone has details please let me know.

Cheers,
Jared
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Re: [Freesurfer] talairach error during recon-all

2009-06-30 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Avi,

do you have any advise for Dana?

thanks
Bruce


On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Dana W. Moore wrote:


Doug

Yes, there is an error message in the talairach_avi.log--I am not sure what 
it means. The end of the log gives me this message:


Dana

imgrege: no voxels in register
ERROR: 'imgreg_4dfp /usr/local/freesurfer/average/711-2C_as_mni_average_305 
/usr/local/freesurfer/average/711-2B_as_mni_average_305_mask talsrcimg_g11 
none talsrcimg_to_711-2C_as_mni_average_305_t4 1283' failed! status=254

ERROR: mpr2mni305 execution aborted

At 06:34 PM 6/29/2009, Douglas N Greve wrote:
The error msg asks you to look at transforms/talairach_avi.log. Have you 
and does it reveal anything?


doug

Dana W. Moore wrote:

Hi all,

I get the following error message during recon-all:

ERROR: 'imgreg_4dfp 
/usr/local/freesurfer/average/711-2C_as_mni_average_305 
/usr/local/freesurfer/average/711-2B_as_mni_average_305_mask talsrcimg_g11 
none talsrcimg_to_711-2C_as_mni_average_305_t4 1283' failed! status=254

ERROR: mpr2mni305 execution aborted
ERROR: mpr2mni305 failed, see transforms/talairach_avi.log

Any idea why this is happening?

Thanks,
Dana


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Re: [Freesurfer] talairach error during recon-all

2009-06-30 Thread Dana W. Moore

Doug

Yes, there is an error message in the talairach_avi.log--I am not 
sure what it means. The end of the log gives me this message:


Dana

imgrege: no voxels in register
ERROR: 'imgreg_4dfp 
/usr/local/freesurfer/average/711-2C_as_mni_average_305 
/usr/local/freesurfer/average/711-2B_as_mni_average_305_mask 
talsrcimg_g11 none talsrcimg_to_711-2C_as_mni_average_305_t4 1283' 
failed! status=254

ERROR: mpr2mni305 execution aborted

At 06:34 PM 6/29/2009, Douglas N Greve wrote:
The error msg asks you to look at transforms/talairach_avi.log. Have 
you and does it reveal anything?


doug

Dana W. Moore wrote:

Hi all,

I get the following error message during recon-all:

ERROR: 'imgreg_4dfp 
/usr/local/freesurfer/average/711-2C_as_mni_average_305 
/usr/local/freesurfer/average/711-2B_as_mni_average_305_mask 
talsrcimg_g11 none talsrcimg_to_711-2C_as_mni_average_305_t4 1283' 
failed! status=254

ERROR: mpr2mni305 execution aborted
ERROR: mpr2mni305 failed, see transforms/talairach_avi.log

Any idea why this is happening?

Thanks,
Dana


Dana W. Moore, Ph.D.
Neuropsychology Fellow
Cornell Neuropsychology Service
Weill Medical College of Cornell University
New York Presbyterian Hospital
Department of Neurology & Neuroscience
428 East 72nd Street, Suite 500
New York, NY 10021
Phone: 212-746-2441
Fax: 212-746-5584
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_surf2surf

2009-06-30 Thread Michael Harms

Hi Jidan,

The surface in the native space is given by ?h.white.
?h.sphere and ?h.sphere.reg provide the "mapping" of those vertices of
to a spherical representation, and registered spherical representation,
respectively.  There are ways to get at the Jacobian of these
transformations if that is what you are interested in.

cheers,
Mike H.


On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 10:00 +0800, Zhong Jidan wrote:
> Hi Freesurfer Experts,
>  
> I have a question about the use of mri_surf2surf. Can I use this
> command to convert the sphere of a surface to its native space? To be
> specific, we can get a sphere if we do inflation and other steps to
> the white surface , can we transform the sphere back to the orginal
> white surface? (if we only have sphere and don't have the white
> surface this time.)
>  
> I want to try this because after the sphere registration from the
> subject to the template, although the deformed sphere has one to one
> correspondance to the original surface of the subject, its
> representation in the native space should have changed. I want to see
> clearly in the native space of the surface to check whether the sulci
> and gyri moves and to which extent, so I want to know whether the
> sur2surf command can transform the deformed sphere to its native
> space.
>  
> If yes, could you tell me how to use this command, thanks a lot!!
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: [Freesurfer] autorecon1 error

2009-06-30 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Fatima,

can you send us the recon-all.log?

thanks
Bruce
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Ahmed, F, Me 
 wrote:



Hi,

I had problems running autorecon 1 with my own subject group, so I decided to 
see if I could run the tutorial with Bert. I ran the motion correction, and 
then tried autorecon 1 and got the following error (please see the attached 
word document to see my output).

ERROR: converting nu to COR/mgz
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.18-8.1.8.el5 #1 SMP Tue Jul 10 06:50:22 EDT 
2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
recon-all exited with ERRORS at Tue Jun 30 09:43:14 BST 2009

Can anyone please tell me what this means and if I can correct it?

Thanks,
Fatima






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Re: [Freesurfer] image matrix

2009-06-30 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Feng-Xian,

the surfaces all live in the surf subdirectory. To see how many vertices a 
surface contains you can run either mris_euler_numer of mris_info. The 
thickness is in the ?h.thickness ("curv" format file - one scalar per 
vertex) and the inflated is in ?h.inflated surface format. You can 
visualize the thickness in tksurfer by loading the inflated surface then 
loading the thickness from the file menu using the load curvature option.


cheers
Bruce


 On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Feng-Xian wrote:



Hi,
  I want to check the image matrix after doing autorecon-all. When I look
at the text, I see that ÿÿOriginal Data has (1, 1, 1) mm size and (224, 256,
160) voxels. Data is conformed to 1 mm size and 256 voxels for all
directionsÿÿ. This is said that that image matrix is 256 x 256 x 256. Right?

  And, I want to know how many voxels do an inflated surface have? Where
dir and what text do I to get that?

  And, do FreeSurfer have a text that including the value of cortical
thickness? I want to know the information of cortical thicknessÿÿs value at
all pixels of whole brain for each subject. If yes, what text has the
information of the value of cortical thickness and where do I find that
text? If no, how can I get the information?

Thank you in advance!

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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all error

2009-06-30 Thread Bruce Fischl

how much ram do you have on your machine?
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 
whb...@mail.ustc.edu.cn wrote:



Hello!
  I just setup "freesurfer-Linux-centos4-stable-pub-v4.4.0" on linux
2.6.21-1.3194.fc7 . to test freesurfer, I successfully run "recon-all -s bert
-autorecon1" and "recon-all -s bert -autorecon3", but "recon-all -s bert
-autorecon2", exited with ERRORS,as follows:

"writing output transformation to transforms/talairach.m3z...
registration took 5 hours, 40 minutes and 53 seconds.
#--
#...@# CA Reg Inv Tue Jun 30 08:14:28 CST 2009
/home/whb/soft/freesurfer/subjects/bert/mri

mri_ca_register -invert-and-save transforms/talairach.m3z

Loading, Inverting, Saving, Exiting ...
Reading transforms/talairach.m3z
zcat transforms/talairach.m3z
Inverting GCAM
Saving inverse
#--
#...@# Remove Neck Tue Jun 30 08:16:04 CST 2009

mri_remove_neck -radius 25 nu.mgz transforms/talairach.m3z
/home/whb/soft/freesurfer/average/RB_all_2008-03-26.gca nu_noneck.mgz

erasing everything more than 25 mm from possible brain
reading atlas '/home/whb/soft/freesurfer/average/RB_all_2008-03-26.gca'...
reading input volume 'nu.mgz'...
reading transform 'transforms/talairach.m3z'...
zcat transforms/talairach.m3z
removing structures at least 25 mm from brain...
11097896 nonbrain voxels erased
writing output to nu_noneck.mgz...
mghWrite(nu_noneck.mgz, -1): could not open file
ERROR: opening pipe gzip -f -c > nu_noneck.mgz, errno = 12
Cannot allocate memory
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.21-1.3194.fc7 #1 SMP Wed May 23 22:35:01 EDT 
2007
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

recon-all exited with ERRORS at Tue Jun 30 08:17:59 CST 2009"

I don't know what's wrong. would you like to help me?

thanks advance!

   Hai-bao wang




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[Freesurfer] autorecon1 error

2009-06-30 Thread Ahmed, F, Me
Hi,

I had problems running autorecon 1 with my own subject group, so I decided to 
see if I could run the tutorial with Bert. I ran the motion correction, and 
then tried autorecon 1 and got the following error (please see the attached 
word document to see my output).

ERROR: converting nu to COR/mgz
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.18-8.1.8.el5 #1 SMP Tue Jul 10 06:50:22 EDT 
2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
recon-all exited with ERRORS at Tue Jun 30 09:43:14 BST 2009

Can anyone please tell me what this means and if I can correct it?

Thanks,
Fatima






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[Freesurfer] image matrix

2009-06-30 Thread Feng-Xian

Hi,
   I want to check the image matrix after doing autorecon-all. When I look 
at the text, I see that “Original Data has (1, 1, 1) mm size and (224, 256, 
160) voxels. Data is conformed to 1 mm size and 256 voxels for all 
directions”. This is said that that image matrix is 256 x 256 x 256. Right? 

   And, I want to know how many voxels do an inflated surface have? Where 
dir and what text do I to get that? 

   And, do FreeSurfer have a text that including the value of cortical 
thickness? I want to know the information of cortical thickness’s value at 
all pixels of whole brain for each subject. If yes, what text has the 
information of the value of cortical thickness and where do I find that 
text? If no, how can I get the information? 

Thank you in advance!

Feng-Xian


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[Freesurfer] recon-all error

2009-06-30 Thread
Hello!
   I just setup "freesurfer-Linux-centos4-stable-pub-v4.4.0" on linux
2.6.21-1.3194.fc7 . to test freesurfer, I successfully run "recon-all -s bert
-autorecon1" and "recon-all -s bert -autorecon3", but "recon-all -s bert
-autorecon2", exited with ERRORS,as follows:
 
"writing output transformation to transforms/talairach.m3z...
registration took 5 hours, 40 minutes and 53 seconds.
#--
#...@# CA Reg Inv Tue Jun 30 08:14:28 CST 2009
/home/whb/soft/freesurfer/subjects/bert/mri

 mri_ca_register -invert-and-save transforms/talairach.m3z

Loading, Inverting, Saving, Exiting ...
Reading transforms/talairach.m3z
zcat transforms/talairach.m3z
Inverting GCAM
Saving inverse
#--
#...@# Remove Neck Tue Jun 30 08:16:04 CST 2009

 mri_remove_neck -radius 25 nu.mgz transforms/talairach.m3z
/home/whb/soft/freesurfer/average/RB_all_2008-03-26.gca nu_noneck.mgz

erasing everything more than 25 mm from possible brain
reading atlas '/home/whb/soft/freesurfer/average/RB_all_2008-03-26.gca'...
reading input volume 'nu.mgz'...
reading transform 'transforms/talairach.m3z'...
zcat transforms/talairach.m3z
removing structures at least 25 mm from brain...
11097896 nonbrain voxels erased
writing output to nu_noneck.mgz...
mghWrite(nu_noneck.mgz, -1): could not open file
ERROR: opening pipe gzip -f -c > nu_noneck.mgz, errno = 12
Cannot allocate memory
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.21-1.3194.fc7 #1 SMP Wed May 23 22:35:01 EDT 
2007
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

recon-all exited with ERRORS at Tue Jun 30 08:17:59 CST 2009"

I don't know what's wrong. would you like to help me?

thanks advance!

Hai-bao wang




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