Re: [Freesurfer] How to switch order of Talairach and nu-correction stages in recon-all

2012-04-20 Thread Nick Schmansky
glad to hear it worked.  it can be tricky getting the stream to work in
a 'one size fits all' kind of way.

n.

On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 16:45 -0700, Joshua Lee wrote:
 Nick,
 Thank you. This recon-all script resolved my problems. I really
 appreciate this post.
 -
 
 Josh
 
 
 
 -
 Joshua Lee
 UC Davis
 
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Nick Schmansky
 ni...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
  Ed,
 
  email probably trounced it.  recon-all is a text file.  attached is a
  gzipped version.  use gunzip to unpack it.
 
  N.
 
 
 
  On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 16:45 +0200, Ed Gronenschild wrote:
  Hi Nick,
 
  It does not work properly, it only produces an error message,
  even with no option at all:
 
  'nknown option: '-
  Usage: tcsh [ -bcdefilmnqstvVxX ] [ argument ...].
 
  Ed
 
  On 17 Apr 2012, at 16:28, Nick Schmansky wrote:
 
   a modified recon-all is attached.  it will run nu_correct prior to the
   talairach stage, as will be the case with v5.2.  so you can just run:
  
   recon-all -s subjid -all -clean-tal
  
   n.
  
  
   On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 08:58 +0200, Ed Gronenschild wrote:
   Hi Nick,
  
   The option -talairach-nu is not recognized in version v5.1.0.
  
   How can I proceed now?
  
   Ed
  
   On 16 Apr 2012, at 17:32, Nick Schmansky wrote:
  
   Ed,
  
   Hi, no there is not an option to switch them.  The nu correct
   stage in
   5.1 needs the talairach to run.
  
   However, if your intent is to get a better talairach result by
   using the
   nu corrected input (as it did prior to v5.1), then you can do the
   following:
  
   recon-all -s subjid -motioncor -talairach -nuintensitycor
  
   then run:
  
   recon-all -s subjid -all -talairach-nu -clean-tal
  
   on the second run, it will use the nu.mgz in the talairach stage.
  
   Note that in the next version, v5.2, one iteration of nu_correct
   will be
   run prior to the talairach stage to use as input to the talairach
   stage,
   in order to get the better talairach results that people were seeing
   prior to v5.1.  it will still run the current nu_correct stage to
   create
   nu.mgz (the nu used in talairach gets discarded).
  
   Nick
  
  
  
   On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 09:10 +0200, Ed Gronenschild wrote:
   Hi,
  
   As of version 5.1 the Talairach stage precedes the nu-correction
   stage.
   Is there an option or possibility to switch this order?
  
   Cheers,
   Ed
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Re: [Freesurfer] WM modification

2012-04-20 Thread Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla
I'm running the FS v5.1 under centOS 4.3 and after changing the mri_segstats you send me, i always get the following error message:mri_segstats: /lib64/tls/lib.so.6: version 'GLIBC_2.4' not found (required for mri_segstats).Does this is normal, since the same FS version was running perfectly just before changing the mri_segstats file.I have search the lib.so.6 and I have it, but not sure about the GLIBC_2.4 do you know how can i check it? or where can I find it for my centOS distribution?Bests,GabrielEl 17/04/12, Douglas N Greve  gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu escribió:It should not have changed the WM volume. Did you happen to see the thread about a bug in mri_segstats? It could be causing this. You can get a new version here:ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/mri_segstats.linuxThe only thing that we have that comes close to quantifying lesions is the volume of WM hypointensities. This will likely underestimate the lesion volume by a lot.dougOn 04/16/2012 04:58 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote: Dear freesurfers, May be a silly question: I'd modified the wm.mgz using the lastest current version of FS as  suggested in http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/WhiteMatterEdits?highlight=%28matter%29%7C%28White%29  Is there any output on FS that quantifies the lesions as volume or  something like? When I'd checked the aseg.stats the cortical wm for both hemispheres  has changed, as a matter of fact it has been increased when I filled  the lesions, which I'm guessing would be a normal behavior, but I'm  wondering how to know how much of this wm is lesioned ? Could you guide me on this? Many thanks in advanced , Gabriel. --  -- PhD. student Gabriel González-Escamilla Laboratory of Functional Neuroscience Department of Physiology, Anatomy, and Cell Biology University Pablo de Olavide Ctra. de Utrera, Km.1 41013 - Seville - Spain - Email: ggon...@upo.es http://www.upo.es/neuroaging/es/ ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer-- Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.MGH-NMR Centergr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduPhone Number: 617-724-2358Fax: 617-726-7422Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReportingFileDrop: www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html___Freesurfer mailing listFreesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduhttps://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurferThe information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it isaddressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mailcontains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine athttp://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in errorbut does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properlydispose of the e-mail.-- --PhD. student Gabriel González-EscamillaLaboratory of Functional NeuroscienceDepartment of Physiology, Anatomy, and Cell BiologyUniversity Pablo de OlavideCtra. de Utrera, Km.141013 - Seville- Spain -Email: ggon...@upo.eshttp://www.upo.es/neuroaging/es/
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[Freesurfer] long_qdec_table error

2012-04-20 Thread Derin J Cobia
Martin,

I'm getting the following error when running long_qdec_table:

=
[derin@otis ccnm_mprage_v4.5_long]$ long_qdec_table --qdec 
qdec/ccnm_prog_30_long_Th.qdec.table.dat --cross --out 
qdec/ccnm_prog_30_long_Th.cross.qdec.table.dat 
Parsing the qdec table: qdec/ccnm_prog_30_long_Th.qdec.table.dat
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /pkg/brainmap/freesurfer-v5.1.0/bin/long_qdec_table, line 142, in ?
longqdec = LongQdecTable(options.qdec)
  File /pkg/brainmap/freesurfer-v5.1.0/bin/LongQdecTable.py, line 30, in 
__init__
self.parse(stpmap)
  File /pkg/brainmap/freesurfer-v5.1.0/bin/LongQdecTable.py, line 58, in parse
if strlst[0].upper() == 'SUBJECTS_DIR':
IndexError: list index out of range
=

I haven't had much luck troubleshooting it, maybe I have too many numerical 
variables in the table? I guess I could always reconstruct it by hand, but 
wondering if you had any thoughts, thanks.

FS v5.1.0 CentOS 4

-Derin


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[Freesurfer] Another -use-gpu experiment

2012-04-20 Thread Burns, Scott S
Freesurfers, 

I'd like to add my two about a recent experiment I ran with recon-all -use-gpu. 
(I'm using v5.1)

I took 6 T1 scans, imported them into two subjects a piece (gpu_SUBJID, 
cpu_SUBJID) and ran 'recon-all -all -use-gpu' on the gpu_ subject and the 
normal 'recon-all -all' on the cpu subjects. All gpu subjects ran on a single 
GTX 480.

On average, I saw about a 16% speedup using GPU hardware, which translates to 
about 4 hours on the hardware I'm using.

Qualitatively, the final inflated surfaces and {w,g}m boundaries are very 
similar.

Two questions:

1) Would you recommend -use-gpu for production analyses using FS v5.1?

2) Separately from the above experiment, I ran one gpu subject using 4 GTX 480s 
and saw no significant time difference.  Is this to be expected, ie your CUDA 
code doesn't scale across multiple GPUs? Just curious, certainly not a 
deal-breaker if it doesn't.

Thanks for your input.

Scott Burns
Neuroimaging Analyst
Education and Brain Science Lab
Kennedy Center
Vanderbilt University

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[Freesurfer] Brainmask.nii Reading

2012-04-20 Thread Nooshin Zadeh
Dear FS friends

I need to do skull stripping of MRI images, and for this purpose I have
used FS.
For reading the data from brainmask.mgz, I converted it to
brainmask.nii.
Can you please tell me how can I read the data from brainmask.nii is
MATLAB?
Do you know other way of reading the data from brainmask.mgz?

I am looking forward to hear from you.
Thanks in advance

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Re: [Freesurfer] Brainmask.nii Reading

2012-04-20 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Nooshin

the function MRIread should load either the .nii or the .mgz in matlab.

cheers
Bruce
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Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Nooshin Zadeh wrote:



Dear FS friends
I need to do skull stripping of MRI images, and for this purpose I have used
FS. 
For reading the data from brainmask.mgz, I converted it to
brainmask.nii.
Can you please tell me how can I read the data from brainmask.nii is
MATLAB?
Do you know other way of reading the data from brainmask.mgz?

I am looking forward to hear from you.
Thanks in advance

--

Best Regards
---
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Graduate Assistant

Departments of Electrical Engineering and Neurology
University of Miami





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[Freesurfer] Failure to download

2012-04-20 Thread Shantanu Ghosh
Hi freesurfers,
I tried to download the tutorial dataset for inspection of fs output, but
receive this error message repeatedly, even with the -c flag:


glia:shantanu[30] wget -c
ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/data/buckner_data-tutorial_subjs.tar.gz
--2012-04-20 15:27:05-- 
ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/data/buckner_data-tutorial_subjs.tar.gz
   = “buckner_data-tutorial_subjs.tar.gz”
Resolving surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu... 132.183.202.158
Connecting to surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu|132.183.202.158|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
== SYST ... done.== PWD ... done.
== TYPE I ... done.  == CWD (1) /pub/data ... done.
== SIZE buckner_data-tutorial_subjs.tar.gz ... 11245151143
== PASV ... done.== REST 4704874496 ... done.
== RETR buckner_data-tutorial_subjs.tar.gz ... done.
Length: 11245151143 (10G), 6540276647 (6.1G) remaining (unauthoritative)

43% [+++  ] 4,852,605,832 6.82M/s   in 22s

buckner_data-tutorial_subjs.tar.gz: Input/output error, closing control
connection.


Thanks in advance for any help.
-shantanu
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[Freesurfer] mris_expand not working since upgrading to v.5.1.0

2012-04-20 Thread Andrew C Yourich
Hello,



I have recently upgraded from running version 4.0.2 of Freesurfer to the most 
current version (v.5.1.0), and have encountered a problem. I used to be able to 
expand the recon-all generated white matter volume by a percentage of the grey 
matter thickness using mris_expand, but ever since changing to the most current 
version, the mris_expand command is not returning correct results. The command 
I use is:



mris_expand -thickness ./lh.white $1 lh.white.expanded



where $1 is a variable indicating the percentage I wish to expand by. Since the 
version change, mris_expand does not seem to actually change the volume of 
lh.white, with the output file lh.white.expanded looking identical to lh.white 
after running the command. This occurs regardless of the value I enter for $1 
(be it very large, very small, or even negative) The command appears to run 
normally as it did in v.4.0.2 and does not give any error message, but the 
output volume appears unchanged from the input volume.



Have the parameters or flags for this command changed between the versions, or 
has mris_expand been deprecated? If so, what flags or command should I use 
instead?



Thanks,



- Andrew
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[Freesurfer] -clean

2012-04-20 Thread Joshua Lee
If I were to want to re-run a recon-all completely fresh on a subject, what
do I need to do aside from creating a new subject directory?

I had previously thought that by adding the -all flag, all old files would
be over written (i.e. overwrite with a new brainmask.mgz). I want
everything fresh.
Does the -clean flag do it all?
Thanks
Josh
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_cvs_register error in step 2

2012-04-20 Thread Lilla Zollei


Hi Jackie,

What is the size of the *resample* files? The only thing I can think about 
is that the files are corrupted and the code cannot read those files in. 
You could try to read the resampled files into Freeview, to test whether 
they can be opened or you could delete the files and then they will be 
regenerated.


--Lilla

On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, Jackie Leung wrote:


ok... please see attached.

note: The directory name is different in this log file, but the error is the 
same.  I've been testing this problem with many different directories.

thanks,
jackie

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wrote:

  Hi Jackie,

  Could you attach the log file?

  Thanks, Lilla

  On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, Jackie Leung wrote:

hi,

I'm trying to run mri_cvs_register and I'm getting a strange error 
message. 

MRISread(CVS_test_26to47_1/lh.resample.white): could not open file
No such file or directory
 Error reading surface CVS_test_26to47_1/lh.resample.white

I've checked the directory and the file definitely exists.

It seems to be popping up in step 2 of the script, where it calls 
the surf2vol function.  I've tried running this function on its own and didn't 
get this error, so I'm really confused as to what the problem may be.

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

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Re: [Freesurfer] -clean

2012-04-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Josh

if you specify a new directory that will certainly work. We try very hard 
to preserve any manual interventions you have taken so that is why -all 
doesn't start fresh - we don't want it to.

cheers
Bruce


On Fri, 20 Apr 
2012, Joshua Lee wrote:

 If I were to want to re-run a recon-all completely fresh on a subject, what
 do I need to do aside from creating a new subject directory?
 
 I had previously thought that by adding the -all flag, all old files would
 be over written (i.e. overwrite with a new brainmask.mgz). I want everything
 fresh.
 Does the -clean flag do it all?
 Thanks
 Josh
 

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Re: [Freesurfer] improving automated cerebellar parcellation

2012-04-20 Thread Bruce Fischl

HI Anthony

I would make sure to include an entire brain labeling in the training set. 
You can do this by pasting your manual labels into our aseg of the subjects 
in question.


cheers
Bruce



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wrote:




Hello,

I developed a new atlas for parcellating the cerebellum, based on 20
brains manually segmented by Jörn Diedrichsen, which he was kind enough
to share (note these also formed the basis for his 2009 paper in
Neuroimage (46; 39-46).

I got the segmentation to work, but I would not say it works well. As
you can see from the attached image, it is not ready for prime-time. On
the left is the brain of subject 1, manually segmented. On the right is
the brain of the same subject with the automated sementation, based on
the developed atlas.

My question is, how can I improve it? I realize this is an open question
and potentially difficult to answer without some probing, but this is a
resource I think a lot of users would like to have access to, so perhaps
it is worth the effort.

Anthony

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Re: [Freesurfer] improving automated cerebellar parcellation

2012-04-20 Thread Anthony Dick
Thanks Bruce. What's the easiest way to paste those labels. Manually 
through tkmedit, or through the command line?

Anthony

On 4/20/12 3:53 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 HI Anthony

 I would make sure to include an entire brain labeling in the training 
 set. You can do this by pasting your manual labels into our aseg of 
 the subjects in question.

 cheers
 Bruce



 On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Anthony Dick wrote:


 Hello,

 I developed a new atlas for parcellating the cerebellum, based on 20
 brains manually segmented by Jörn Diedrichsen, which he was kind enough
 to share (note these also formed the basis for his 2009 paper in
 Neuroimage (46; 39-46).

 I got the segmentation to work, but I would not say it works well. As
 you can see from the attached image, it is not ready for prime-time. On
 the left is the brain of subject 1, manually segmented. On the right is
 the brain of the same subject with the automated sementation, based on
 the developed atlas.

 My question is, how can I improve it? I realize this is an open question
 and potentially difficult to answer without some probing, but this is a
 resource I think a lot of users would like to have access to, so perhaps
 it is worth the effort.

 Anthony




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Re: [Freesurfer] improving automated cerebellar parcellation

2012-04-20 Thread Bruce Fischl

probably in matlab
On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Anthony Dick wrote:

Thanks Bruce. What's the easiest way to paste those labels. Manually 
through tkmedit, or through the command line?


Anthony

On 4/20/12 3:53 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:

HI Anthony

I would make sure to include an entire brain labeling in the training set. 
You can do this by pasting your manual labels into our aseg of the subjects 
in question.


cheers
Bruce



On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Anthony Dick wrote:



Hello,

I developed a new atlas for parcellating the cerebellum, based on 20
brains manually segmented by Jörn Diedrichsen, which he was kind enough
to share (note these also formed the basis for his 2009 paper in
Neuroimage (46; 39-46).

I got the segmentation to work, but I would not say it works well. As
you can see from the attached image, it is not ready for prime-time. On
the left is the brain of subject 1, manually segmented. On the right is
the brain of the same subject with the automated sementation, based on
the developed atlas.

My question is, how can I improve it? I realize this is an open question
and potentially difficult to answer without some probing, but this is a
resource I think a lot of users would like to have access to, so perhaps
it is worth the effort.

Anthony





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Re: [Freesurfer] -clean

2012-04-20 Thread Joshua Lee
I have not done any manual interventions. I would like to re-run recon-all
with different  expert options in mri_normalize, and -skullstrip, and
-mprage, and wanted be sure that my changes would be reflected in the
downstream output.
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On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Joshua Lee jki...@ucdavis.edu wrote:

 If I were to want to re-run a recon-all completely fresh on a subject,
 what do I need to do aside from creating a new subject directory?

 I had previously thought that by adding the -all flag, all old files would
 be over written (i.e. overwrite with a new brainmask.mgz). I want
 everything fresh.
 Does the -clean flag do it all?
 Thanks
 Josh

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Re: [Freesurfer] Another -use-gpu experiment

2012-04-20 Thread R Edgar
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Burns, Scott S
scott.s.bu...@vanderbilt.edu wrote:

 2) Separately from the above experiment, I ran one gpu subject using 4 GTX 
 480s and saw no significant time difference.  Is this to be expected, ie your 
 CUDA code doesn't scale across multiple GPUs? Just curious, certainly not a 
 deal-breaker if it doesn't.

Nothing I added (primarily mri_ca_register and mri_em_register) makes
use of multiple GPUs, any more than Freesurfer makes use of multiple
cores. I don't know about any additions since. If you have more than
one GPU, you can run more than one subject at once (if you point each
run to a different GPU). Also, make sure you're using the Fermi
binaries on that GTX 480.

Richard

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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_cvs_register error in step 2

2012-04-20 Thread Jackie Leung
The files in the folder are around 4.7MB...  and 2 .annot files that are
around 1Mb.  I am able to open these surface files using Freeview.

Like I said before, I tried copying and surf2vol command line and running
it separately, and this error won't appear. In contrast, if i run
mri_cvs_register --mov sub26 --template sub47 --outdir CVS_test_26to47_1
--step2 --nocleanup
The same error pops up.

very puzzling.

i will rerun everything overnight to see if i get the same problem.

thanks,
jackie

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Lilla Zollei
lzol...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:


 Hi Jackie,

 What is the size of the *resample* files? The only thing I can think about
 is that the files are corrupted and the code cannot read those files in.
 You could try to read the resampled files into Freeview, to test whether
 they can be opened or you could delete the files and then they will be
 regenerated.

 --Lilla


 On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, Jackie Leung wrote:

  ok... please see attached.

 note: The directory name is different in this log file, but the error is
 the same.  I've been testing this problem with many different directories.

 thanks,
 jackie

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Lilla Zollei 
 lzol...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

  Hi Jackie,

  Could you attach the log file?

  Thanks, Lilla

  On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, Jackie Leung wrote:

hi,

I'm trying to run mri_cvs_register and I'm getting a strange
 error message.

MRISread(CVS_test_26to47_1/lh.**resample.white): could not
 open file
No such file or directory
 Error reading surface CVS_test_26to47_1/lh.resample.**white

I've checked the directory and the file definitely exists.

It seems to be popping up in step 2 of the script, where it
 calls the surf2vol function.  I've tried running this function on its own
 and didn't get this error, so I'm really confused as to what the problem
 may be.

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

thanks,
jackie





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