Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all with FLAIR error no FSL installed

2013-05-28 Thread Popescu, Veronica
Dear all,
How fatal is the FSL environment not being initialized for FreeSurfer 5.3 
with FLAIR refinement? 
I do get results (which look good). 
Should I rerun them with FSL installed? 
Thank you very much in advance!
Sincerely,
Veronica


-Original Message-
From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] 
Sent: maandag 27 mei 2013 14:19
To: Popescu, Veronica
Cc: 'freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu'
Subject: RE: [Freesurfer] recon-all with FLAIR error no FSL installed

Hi Veronica

thanks for the offer, but I don't need to see them. Glad it seems to be 
working. As for BBR, I'll leave that for Doug
Bruce
On Mon, 27 May 2013, Popescu, 
Veronica wrote:

 Dear Bruce,
 They look good to me. Should I upload a couple of them, so you can have a 
 look? They're about 230MB each.
 My question is: how serious is the BBR not initializing? Should I run 
 everything again with FSL installed?
 Best wishes,
 Veronica

 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
 Sent: vrijdag 24 mei 2013 15:59
 To: Popescu, Veronica
 Cc: 'freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu'
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all with FLAIR error no FSL installed

 Hi Veronica

 BBR can use FSL or SPM to initialize, although we'll probably add an option
 in the future to use some things that Martin Reuter and Christian Wachinger
 are working on. How did the refinement work? We've only run it on a handful
 of cases, so it's pretty bleeding edge and I'm interested in feedback.

 cheers
 Bruce


 On Fri, 24 May 2013, Popescu, Veronica
 wrote:

 Dear all,
 I am running FreeSurfer 5.3 with FLAIR refinement. I do not have FSL 
 installed. I do get results but there's an
 error message in the log file (attached) about the FSL installation missing. 
  
 How bad is it? Do I have to rerun everything with FSL installed? And if so, 
 is there any version that is
 preferable?
 Thank you very much in advance!
 Best wishes,
 Veronica
  




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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all with FLAIR error no FSL installed

2013-05-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
If the FLAIR was acquired in the same session you might be ok, as 
bbregister inititialized from the headers will be close enough unless there 
is large-scale movement between scans.

Bruce


On Tue, 28 May 2013, Popescu, Veronica wrote:


Dear all,
How fatal is the FSL environment not being initialized for FreeSurfer 5.3 
with FLAIR refinement?
I do get results (which look good).
Should I rerun them with FSL installed?
Thank you very much in advance!
Sincerely,
Veronica


-Original Message-
From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
Sent: maandag 27 mei 2013 14:19
To: Popescu, Veronica
Cc: 'freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu'
Subject: RE: [Freesurfer] recon-all with FLAIR error no FSL installed

Hi Veronica

thanks for the offer, but I don't need to see them. Glad it seems to be
working. As for BBR, I'll leave that for Doug
Bruce
On Mon, 27 May 2013, Popescu,
Veronica wrote:


Dear Bruce,
They look good to me. Should I upload a couple of them, so you can have a look? 
They're about 230MB each.
My question is: how serious is the BBR not initializing? Should I run 
everything again with FSL installed?
Best wishes,
Veronica

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
Sent: vrijdag 24 mei 2013 15:59
To: Popescu, Veronica
Cc: 'freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu'
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all with FLAIR error no FSL installed

Hi Veronica

BBR can use FSL or SPM to initialize, although we'll probably add an option
in the future to use some things that Martin Reuter and Christian Wachinger
are working on. How did the refinement work? We've only run it on a handful
of cases, so it's pretty bleeding edge and I'm interested in feedback.

cheers
Bruce


On Fri, 24 May 2013, Popescu, Veronica
wrote:


Dear all,
I am running FreeSurfer 5.3 with FLAIR refinement. I do not have FSL installed. 
I do get results but there's an
error message in the log file (attached) about the FSL installation missing.  
How bad is it? Do I have to rerun everything with FSL installed? And if so, is 
there any version that is
preferable?
Thank you very much in advance!
Best wishes,
Veronica
 





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Re: [Freesurfer] rerun interrupted processes

2013-05-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Valeria

can you address this type of question to the list so that others can 
answer and learn from the answers? Yes, you can run

recon-all -make all -s subject id

and it should pick up from where it left off
Bruce


On Tue, 28 May 2013, Valeria Contarino 
wrote:

 Dear Bruce,
 I have a new question for you.
 I was running 30 subjects when processes were interrupted because of no more 
 space left on device.
 Do I have the chance for starting again the processes from where they stopped?
 
 Thank you.
 
 Regards,
 Valeria
 

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Re: [Freesurfer] fix talairach transform

2013-05-28 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Laouchedi

these alignments look fine. I am a bit concerned at how dark your images 
are near the top of the head. What coil are you using? This is probably 
why you are having trouble.


cheers
Bruce
On Tue, 28 May 2013, LAOUCHEDI MAKHLOUF wrote:


Hi
    i have a problem when running recon-all -all, so i decided to split the 
process into three staps :
recon-all -autorecon1, recon-all -autorecon2 and recon-all -autorecon3. 
i have just finished with the
first step (recon-all -autorecon1) and looked for misalignment in talairach 
transform for all subjects using
tkregister2 --mgz --s ctr1 --fstal  (i can't use --surf orig  because i 
haven't the surfaces yet). so i
used the small red cross in the coronal, sagittal and axial views to align as 
much as possible. my goal is to
extract the cortical labels (cortical parcellation). is it necessary to have a 
precise talairach transform just
for this purpose ?

Thank you

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Re: [Freesurfer] BBR Register failing

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
and bbregister?

On 05/28/2013 02:03 AM, Salil Soman wrote:
 It was attached to my earlier email (included again here). The only 
 chnages I made are at lines 129 (set fsvol = brainmask) and 132 (echo 
 FSVOL $fsvol).

 -S



 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Douglas Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Can you send me your original version of fslregister and bregister?


 On 5/27/13 10:53 PM, Salil Soman wrote:
 I have been using 5.3 of freesurfer for centos 6. As far as I can
 tell, the problem was with fslregister, which was getting called
 by bbregister. I've downloaded the link you just sent, remarked
 out the line I added to fslregister (see the file I sent in
 response to your email), and I get the same error. Restoring my
 modification makes the code work again.

 Thank you,

 Sal


 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Douglas Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 which version of FS are you using? This was a problem with
 5.2 but it should be fixed with 5.3.
 If you have 5.2 or earlier, you can use this version of
 bbregister
 
 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/bbregister

 doug


 On 5/27/13 10:32 PM, Salil Soman wrote:
 Thank you Doug,

 fsvol was defined, which was why I was confused. I put in a
 command to echo the fsvol value in the line before where the
 error was getting generated, and it echoed ERROR. Adding a
 line specifically defining fsvol using set in the section
 fixed the problem (as far as I can tell).

 -Sal


 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Douglas Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Hi Sal, fsvol should be defined. Can you send me your
 fslregister?
 doug



 On 5/26/13 12:58 AM, Salil Soman wrote:
 Dear Freesurfer experts,

 WIth the combination of FS 5.3 and FSL 5.0.2.1, It
 looks like I am having some problems with the
 fslregister script. From what I have been able to
 investigate. It looks like there is an issue that fsvol
 may not get named if you are not dealing .cor files.

 Code in question from fslregister script:

 # Use the rawavg as input (for testing only)
 if($fsvol == rawavg.cor) then
   set refvol = $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subjid/mri/$fsvol.mgz
   if(! -e $refvol) then
 # Does not exist, create
 set orig = $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subjid/mri/orig.mgz
 set rawavg = $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subjid/mri/rawavg.mgz
 set cmd = (mri_vol2vol --mov $rawavg --targ $orig
 --o $refvol \
 --no-save-reg --regheader)
 echo $cmd | tee -a $LF
 $cmd | tee -a $LF
 if($status) exit 1;
 # Now mask it
 set brain = $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subjid/mri/brainmask.mgz
 set cmd = (mri_mask $refvol $brain $refvol)
 echo $cmd | tee -a $LF
 $cmd | tee -a $LF

 I think this lack of fsvol being named results in the
 errors I am getting:

 --
 /mnt/glusterfs/salsoman/output/FS/WMR3T_0015z_FS
 mri_convert ERROR: could not determine file for
 /mnt/glusterfs/salsoman/output/FS/WMR3T_0015z_FS/mri/ERROR:
 ./tmp.bbregister.756/fslregister/refvol.fslregister.nii
 mri_convert ERROR: could not determine file for
 /mnt/glusterfs/salsoman/output/FS/WMR3T_0015z_FS/mri/ERROR:
 ./tmp.bbregister.756/fslregister/refvol.fslregister.nii

 mri_convert: extra arguments (not and following)

 Any suggestions would be a huge help.

 -Sal




 On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Salil Soman
 salso...@stanford.edu mailto:salso...@stanford.edu
 wrote:

 Done. Thank you for your consideration. The best I
 can figure so far is
 1) the script's attempt to make the
 tmp.bbregister.7392 directory fails
 and 2) (after I manually make this directory),
 there seems to be something going wrong at the
 level of fslregister

 I have fsl 5.0.2.1 and freesurfer 5.3 running, and
 am regularly able to run freesurfer and
 tracula (using only the flirt method, the bbr
 method was giving me trouble as well).

 The code is all running on a sun grid engine, with
 individual ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS machines.

 Your help on this 

Re: [Freesurfer] minor bug report

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve


This is an annoying mismatch between linux and osx.



On 05/25/2013 11:09 PM, Joseph Dien wrote:
 when I run: isxconcat-sess -sf sessidlist.dat -analysis CPA.sm05.lh 
 -all-contrasts -o secondLevel

 I get the error messages:

 secondLevel/CPA.sm05.mni305/log/isxconcat.log

 stat: illegal option -- c

 usage: stat [-FlLnqrsx] [-f format] [-t timefmt] [file ...]

 stat: illegal option -- c

 usage: stat [-FlLnqrsx] [-f format] [-t timefmt] [file ...]

 stat: illegal option -- c

 usage: stat [-FlLnqrsx] [-f format] [-t timefmt] [file …]

 ...


 I'm assuming this isn't a serious problem as it just seems to affect 
 what goes into the log file but thought you might want to know.
 This is on OS X 10.8.2 with Freesurfer 5.2.0.

 Cheers!

 Joe

 

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[Freesurfer] area measurements FS5.1

2013-05-28 Thread Benjamín Garzón
Hi,

I have processed a sample with FS 5.1 and would like to do a group 
analysis of surface-based area.

According to the release notes ( ** ) there is an issue with the 
conversion into standard space. I found a former post pointing to a 
version of preproc-sess that to my understanding should fix that, but 
the file is not there any more. Is there any quick fix for this problem 
without having to move to 5.3 / could I get that file?

Thanks,

Benjamin


** There is a bug in the way that FS converts surface-based area (eg, 
lh.area) and volume (eg, lh.volume) into standard space. The files 
themselves are fine, it is the way they are transfered to standard space 
that is the problem. You will not need to re-analyze any of your 
individual subject data. The volumes of the subcortical structures are 
unaffected by this problem. Global measures of cortical volume are also 
unaffected.




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Karolinska Institutet
Department of Neuroscience
Retzius Väg 8
17177 Stockholm (SWEDEN)

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Re: [Freesurfer] area measurements FS5.1

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
try that link again
doug

On 05/28/2013 10:16 AM, Benjamín Garzón wrote:
 Hi,

 I have processed a sample with FS 5.1 and would like to do a group
 analysis of surface-based area.

 According to the release notes ( ** ) there is an issue with the
 conversion into standard space. I found a former post pointing to a
 version of preproc-sess that to my understanding should fix that, but
 the file is not there any more. Is there any quick fix for this problem
 without having to move to 5.3 / could I get that file?

 Thanks,

 Benjamin


 ** There is a bug in the way that FS converts surface-based area (eg,
 lh.area) and volume (eg, lh.volume) into standard space. The files
 themselves are fine, it is the way they are transfered to standard space
 that is the problem. You will not need to re-analyze any of your
 individual subject data. The volumes of the subcortical structures are
 unaffected by this problem. Global measures of cortical volume are also
 unaffected.





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Re: [Freesurfer] nuintensitycor and skullstrip problems

2013-05-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
can you send me the whole .mgz volume? And your recon-all command line that 
fails?


On Tue, 28 May 2013, LAOUCHEDI 
MAKHLOUF wrote:



hi
  i send you the rawavg.mgz of the subject with the massive artefact. i inform 
you that i proceeded differently by splitting the
recon-all -all into three steps (as in freesurfer wiki) : (1) recon-all 
-autorecon1, (2) recon-all -autorecon2 (3) recon-all
-autorecon3. i just finished with the first step which still didn't work for 
some subjects so i deleted then in my SUBJECTS_DIR
then i run recon-all -i to regenerate them. after that i re-run recon-all 
-autorecon1 and it worked even for the subject
with the artefacted rawavg.mgz i am sending you.

   i noticed also that some extra cerebral structures like dura is not fully 
removed after the skullstripping step, and i
reviewed some of my previous datasets i processed with freesurfer and i noticed 
that the cortical ribbon (containing the
cortical parcellation) fits well the gray matter. so is a wise idea to not bother a lot 
about these some extra cerebral
structures left and just go forward with the rest of the recon-all pipeline 
(but of course i'll take a look a posteriori).

Thanks

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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_anatomical_stats segmentation fault

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
Rob, can you send me your label?

doug

On 05/27/2013 01:00 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:
 Hi All,

 I'm running mris_anatomical_stats with a few manually defined 
 labels. For a few of my subjects, I am getting the error: 
 Segmentation fault on one of the labels. However, the other manually 
 defined labels process without any errors on these same subjects.

 For example, I am running mri_anatomical_stats on subject 33_bay6 
 with a manually defined ERC label, a manually defined PHC label, and a 
 manually defined medial frontal gyrus label. The only label that runs 
 an error for this subject is the PHC label. This PHC label runs 
 without any errors on the rest of my subjects.

 Here is what is displayed when running a label that fails:

  mris_anatomical_stats -f PHC.stats.04.txt -l lh.PHC_1.label -b 
 33_bay6 lh
 limiting computations to label lh.PHC_1.label.
 reading volume /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/33_bay6/mri/wm.mgz...
 reading input surface 
 /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/33_bay6/surf/lh.white...
 reading input pial surface 
 /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/33_bay6/surf/lh.pial...
 reading input white surface 
 /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/33_bay6/surf/lh.white...
 Segmentation fault

 Does anyone know what may be causing the Segmentation fault and what 
 steps I should take to fix it?

 Thank you for your help!
 Rob


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[Freesurfer] mris_resample: Command not found.

2013-05-28 Thread Barron, Daniel S
Hello,

I am trying to perform an inter-subject registration using mri_cvs_register on 
version 5.3.

When I ran mri_cvs_check, my feedback was I needed to find 
mri_cvs_register.settings.txt but I didn't worry about this per Lilla's post: 
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail//freesurfer/2012-April/023445.html

mri_cvs_register kicks off well, but eventually it ends with:

mris_resample: Command not found.

I go into my $FREESURFER_HOME/bin directory and note that mris_resample is 
truly not there.  Did I not install 5.3 properly?

I have attached a log file in case this helps.

Cheers,
Daniel




MLL_to_MNI152_T1_1mm.mri_cvs_register.1305241528.log
Description: MLL_to_MNI152_T1_1mm.mri_cvs_register.1305241528.log
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Re: [Freesurfer] BBR Register failing

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
I know, but I want to see what version of bbregister you are using
On 05/28/2013 10:29 AM, Salil Soman wrote:

 I did not make any changes to bbregister.

 Thank you for all your help.

 Sal

 On May 28, 2013 6:57 AM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 and bbregister?

 On 05/28/2013 02:03 AM, Salil Soman wrote:

 It was attached to my earlier email (included again here). The
 only chnages I made are at lines 129 (set fsvol = brainmask)
 and 132 (echo FSVOL $fsvol).

 -S



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 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Can you send me your original version of fslregister and
 bregister?


 On 5/27/13 10:53 PM, Salil Soman wrote:

 I have been using 5.3 of freesurfer for centos 6. As
 far as I can
 tell, the problem was with fslregister, which was
 getting called
 by bbregister. I've downloaded the link you just sent,
 remarked
 out the line I added to fslregister (see the file I
 sent in
 response to your email), and I get the same error.
 Restoring my
 modification makes the code work again.

 Thank you,

 Sal


 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Douglas Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 which version of FS are you using? This was a
 problem with
 5.2 but it should be fixed with 5.3.
 If you have 5.2 or earlier, you can use this
 version of
 bbregister
 
 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/bbregister

 doug


 On 5/27/13 10:32 PM, Salil Soman wrote:

 Thank you Doug,

 fsvol was defined, which was why I was
 confused. I put in a
 command to echo the fsvol value in the line
 before where the
 error was getting generated, and it echoed
 ERROR. Adding a
 line specifically defining fsvol using set in
 the section
 fixed the problem (as far as I can tell).

 -Sal


 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Douglas Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Hi Sal, fsvol should be defined. Can you
 send me your
 fslregister?
 doug



 On 5/26/13 12:58 AM, Salil Soman wrote:

 Dear Freesurfer experts,

 WIth the combination of FS 5.3 and FSL
 5.0.2.1, It
 looks like I am having some problems
 with the
 fslregister script. From what I have
 been able to
 investigate. It looks like there is an
 issue that fsvol
 may not get named if you are not
 dealing .cor files.

 Code in question from fslregister script:

 # Use the rawavg as input (for testing
 only)
 if($fsvol == rawavg.cor) then
   set refvol =
 $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subjid/mri/$fsvol.mgz
   if(! -e $refvol) then
 # Does not exist, create
 set orig =
 $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subjid/mri/orig.mgz
 set rawavg =
 $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subjid/mri/rawavg.mgz
 set cmd = (mri_vol2vol --mov
 $rawavg --targ $orig
 --o $refvol \
 --no-save-reg --regheader)
 echo $cmd | tee -a $LF
 $cmd | tee -a $LF
 if($status) exit 1;
 # Now mask 

Re: [Freesurfer] mris_resample: Command not found.

2013-05-28 Thread Lilla Zollei


Hi Daniel,

What operating system are you using?

Lilla

On Tue, 28 May 2013, Barron, Daniel S wrote:


Hello,

I am trying to perform an inter-subject registration using mri_cvs_register on 
version 5.3. 

When I ran mri_cvs_check, my feedback was I needed to find 
mri_cvs_register.settings.txt but I didn't worry about this per Lilla's post: 
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail//freesurfer/2012-April/023445.html

mri_cvs_register kicks off well, but eventually it ends with:

mris_resample: Command not found.

I go into my $FREESURFER_HOME/bin directory and note that mris_resample is 
truly not there.  Did I not install 5.3 properly? 

I have attached a log file in case this helps.

Cheers,
Daniel



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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_anatomical_stats segmentation fault

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
Nothing looks like it is wrong with that label. Can you verify that the 
white surface has not been changed since the label was created? Check 
how many vertices the white surface has with mris_info. The PHC label 
references a vertex index as high as 163798. If the white surface does 
not have that many veritices, then that could cause the problem.
doug


On 05/28/2013 10:33 AM, Rob Tennyson wrote:
 Hi Doug,

 Attached are the three labels I'm having an issue with (each with a 
 different subject). These are built from areas that we found 
 functional differences between a healthy control group and a MDD 
 group. I was going to take a look at the anatomical stats to see if 
 there are thickness or volume differences as well.

 I am also going to review the white surface soon as Bruce suggested.


 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Rob, can you send me your label?

 doug

 On 05/27/2013 01:00 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I'm running mris_anatomical_stats with a few manually defined
  labels. For a few of my subjects, I am getting the error:
  Segmentation fault on one of the labels. However, the other
 manually
  defined labels process without any errors on these same subjects.
 
  For example, I am running mri_anatomical_stats on subject 33_bay6
  with a manually defined ERC label, a manually defined PHC label,
 and a
  manually defined medial frontal gyrus label. The only label that
 runs
  an error for this subject is the PHC label. This PHC label runs
  without any errors on the rest of my subjects.
 
  Here is what is displayed when running a label that fails:
 
   mris_anatomical_stats -f PHC.stats.04.txt -l lh.PHC_1.label -b
  33_bay6 lh
  limiting computations to label lh.PHC_1.label.
  reading volume /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/33_bay6/mri/wm.mgz...
  reading input surface
  /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/33_bay6/surf/lh.white...
  reading input pial surface
  /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/33_bay6/surf/lh.pial...
  reading input white surface
  /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/33_bay6/surf/lh.white...
  Segmentation fault
 
  Does anyone know what may be causing the Segmentation fault and what
  steps I should take to fix it?
 
  Thank you for your help!
  Rob
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] area measurements FS5.1

2013-05-28 Thread Benjamín Garzón

Thanks, Doug.
I guess it's the mris_preproc file there what I need, not preproc-sess...
Does this version do the areal interpolation as described in Winkler 
2012 'Measuring and comparing brain cortical surface area and other 
areal quantities 
http://www.academia.edu/1604228/Measuring_and_comparing_brain_cortical_surface_area_and_other_areal_quantities'?


Best regards, Benjamin

On 05/28/2013 04:16 PM, Benjamín Garzón wrote:

Hi,

I have processed a sample with FS 5.1 and would like to do a group 
analysis of surface-based area.


According to the release notes ( ** ) there is an issue with the 
conversion into standard space. I found a former post pointing to a 
version of preproc-sess that to my understanding should fix that, but 
the file is not there any more. Is there any quick fix for this 
problem without having to move to 5.3 / could I get that file?


Thanks,

Benjamin


** There is a bug in the way that FS converts surface-based area (eg, 
lh.area) and volume (eg, lh.volume) into standard space. The files 
themselves are fine, it is the way they are transfered to standard 
space that is the problem. You will not need to re-analyze any of your 
individual subject data. The volumes of the subcortical structures are 
unaffected by this problem. Global measures of cortical volume are 
also unaffected.








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Re: [Freesurfer] resampling surfaces to native space, mri_surf2surf not scaling properly?

2013-05-28 Thread Gunter, Geoffrey
Thanks for your response, Douglas.

I tried your suggestion, it doesn't appear to have changed the transformation 
at all though. There is still no scaling being applied to the surface.

Is there anything else I can try to fix this problem?

Thanks,
Geoff

From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
[freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Douglas N Greve 
[gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 5:35 PM
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] resampling surfaces to native space, mri_surf2surf 
not scaling properly?

Try

mri_surf2surf --sval-xyz pial --reg resamp_brain.mgz.reg rawavg.mgz
--tval resamp_lh_pial --tval-xyz --hemi lh --s 1158119_3_6


On 05/24/2013 04:42 PM, Gunter, Geoffrey wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm trying to resample Freesurfer output volumes and surfaces back
 into their native anatomical space using mri_vol2vol and
 mri_surf2surf. The volumes appear to be resampled correctly, their
 resolution and orientation match the original images'.

 However, the resampled surfaces do not appear to have been transformed
 correctly by mri_surf2surf. When I visually compare them to the
 Freesurfer-space surfaces overlaid on the brain images in FreeView,
 TKMEdit, Paraview-CAWorks, etc., they seem to be identical to the
 un-transformed, Freesurfer-space surfaces. In addition, when I check
 the list of vertices for transformed and untransformed surfaces, the
 coordinates of each vertex are unchanged.

 These are the commands that I'm using:

 mri_vol2vol --mov brain.mgz --targ rawavg.mgz --regheader --o
 resamp_brain.mgz

 mri_surf2surf --sval-xyz pial --reg resamp_brain.mgz.reg --tval
 resamp_lh_pial --tval-xyz --hemi lh --s 1158119_3_6

 The registration file, resamp_brain.mgz.reg looks like this:

 subject-unknown
 0.937500
 0.937500
 1.00
 1.000e+00 0.000e+00 0.000e+00
 0.000e+00
 0.000e+00 1.000e+00 0.000e+00
 0.000e+00
 0.000e+00 0.000e+00 1.000e+00
 0.000e+00
 0 0 0 1
 round

 My Freesurfer version: freesurfer-Linux-centos4_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.1.0

 Could it be that mri_surf2surf is not applying scaling transformations
 correctly?

 Thanks for your help,
 Geoff


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Re: [Freesurfer] area measurements FS5.1

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve

We don't have an implementation of Anderson's code that we are 
releasing. mris_preproc (not preproc-sess) has a mechanism to perform 
areal interpolation that is not as good as Anderson's, but it is what we 
have.
doug



On 05/28/2013 11:19 AM, Benjamín Garzón wrote:
 Thanks, Doug.
 I guess it's the mris_preproc file there what I need, not preproc-sess...
 Does this version do the areal interpolation as described in Winkler 
 2012 'Measuring and comparing brain cortical surface area and other 
 areal quantities 
 http://www.academia.edu/1604228/Measuring_and_comparing_brain_cortical_surface_area_and_other_areal_quantities'?

 Best regards, Benjamin

 On 05/28/2013 04:16 PM, Benjamín Garzón wrote:
 Hi,

 I have processed a sample with FS 5.1 and would like to do a group 
 analysis of surface-based area.

 According to the release notes ( ** ) there is an issue with the 
 conversion into standard space. I found a former post pointing to a 
 version of preproc-sess that to my understanding should fix that, but 
 the file is not there any more. Is there any quick fix for this 
 problem without having to move to 5.3 / could I get that file?

 Thanks,

 Benjamin


 ** There is a bug in the way that FS converts surface-based area (eg, 
 lh.area) and volume (eg, lh.volume) into standard space. The files 
 themselves are fine, it is the way they are transfered to standard 
 space that is the problem. You will not need to re-analyze any of 
 your individual subject data. The volumes of the subcortical 
 structures are unaffected by this problem. Global measures of 
 cortical volume are also unaffected.






 -- 
 Benjamín Garzón, Ph.D.

 Karolinska Institutet
 Department of Neuroscience
 Retzius Väg 8
 17177 Stockholm (SWEDEN)


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Re: [Freesurfer] resampling surfaces to native space, mri_surf2surf not scaling properly?

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve

The problem is with the way you are creating the registration matrix, 
use this instead

tkregister2 --mov rawavg.mgz --targ orig.mgz --regheader --noedit --reg  
resamp_brain.mgz.reg

doug




On 05/28/2013 11:19 AM, Gunter, Geoffrey wrote:
 Thanks for your response, Douglas.

 I tried your suggestion, it doesn't appear to have changed the transformation 
 at all though. There is still no scaling being applied to the surface.

 Is there anything else I can try to fix this problem?

 Thanks,
 Geoff
 
 From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Douglas N Greve 
 [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 5:35 PM
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] resampling surfaces to native space, mri_surf2surf 
 not scaling properly?

 Try

 mri_surf2surf --sval-xyz pial --reg resamp_brain.mgz.reg rawavg.mgz
 --tval resamp_lh_pial --tval-xyz --hemi lh --s 1158119_3_6


 On 05/24/2013 04:42 PM, Gunter, Geoffrey wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm trying to resample Freesurfer output volumes and surfaces back
 into their native anatomical space using mri_vol2vol and
 mri_surf2surf. The volumes appear to be resampled correctly, their
 resolution and orientation match the original images'.

 However, the resampled surfaces do not appear to have been transformed
 correctly by mri_surf2surf. When I visually compare them to the
 Freesurfer-space surfaces overlaid on the brain images in FreeView,
 TKMEdit, Paraview-CAWorks, etc., they seem to be identical to the
 un-transformed, Freesurfer-space surfaces. In addition, when I check
 the list of vertices for transformed and untransformed surfaces, the
 coordinates of each vertex are unchanged.

 These are the commands that I'm using:

  mri_vol2vol --mov brain.mgz --targ rawavg.mgz --regheader --o
  resamp_brain.mgz

  mri_surf2surf --sval-xyz pial --reg resamp_brain.mgz.reg --tval
  resamp_lh_pial --tval-xyz --hemi lh --s 1158119_3_6

 The registration file, resamp_brain.mgz.reg looks like this:

  subject-unknown
  0.937500
  0.937500
  1.00
  1.000e+00 0.000e+00 0.000e+00
  0.000e+00
  0.000e+00 1.000e+00 0.000e+00
  0.000e+00
  0.000e+00 0.000e+00 1.000e+00
  0.000e+00
  0 0 0 1
  round

 My Freesurfer version: freesurfer-Linux-centos4_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.1.0

 Could it be that mri_surf2surf is not applying scaling transformations
 correctly?

 Thanks for your help,
 Geoff


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Re: [Freesurfer] mris_resample: Command not found.

2013-05-28 Thread Barron, Daniel S
Hi Lilla, 
I'm using OSX 10.8.3
Thanks,
Daniel

From: Lilla Zollei [lzol...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:04 AM
To: Barron, Daniel S
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: mris_resample: Command not found.

Hi Daniel,

What operating system are you using?

Lilla

On Tue, 28 May 2013, Barron, Daniel S wrote:

 Hello,

 I am trying to perform an inter-subject registration using mri_cvs_register 
 on version 5.3.

 When I ran mri_cvs_check, my feedback was I needed to find 
 mri_cvs_register.settings.txt but I didn't worry about this per Lilla's 
 post: 
 https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail//freesurfer/2012-April/023445.html

 mri_cvs_register kicks off well, but eventually it ends with:

 mris_resample: Command not found.

 I go into my $FREESURFER_HOME/bin directory and note that mris_resample is 
 truly not there.  Did I not install 5.3 properly?

 I have attached a log file in case this helps.

 Cheers,
 Daniel






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Re: [Freesurfer] mris_resample: Command not found.

2013-05-28 Thread Z K
Hello Daniel,

This is a confirmed issue with the 64bit Mac build. A patch to fix the 
issue will be available shortly (~hours). I will email the list and you 
personally once it is available. Sorry for the inconvenience.

-Zeke

On 05/28/2013 11:36 AM, Barron, Daniel S wrote:
 Hi Lilla,
 I'm using OSX 10.8.3
 Thanks,
 Daniel
 
 From: Lilla Zollei [lzol...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:04 AM
 To: Barron, Daniel S
 Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: mris_resample: Command not found.

 Hi Daniel,

 What operating system are you using?

 Lilla

 On Tue, 28 May 2013, Barron, Daniel S wrote:

 Hello,

 I am trying to perform an inter-subject registration using mri_cvs_register 
 on version 5.3.

 When I ran mri_cvs_check, my feedback was I needed to find 
 mri_cvs_register.settings.txt but I didn't worry about this per Lilla's 
 post: 
 https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail//freesurfer/2012-April/023445.html

 mri_cvs_register kicks off well, but eventually it ends with:

 mris_resample: Command not found.

 I go into my $FREESURFER_HOME/bin directory and note that mris_resample is 
 truly not there.  Did I not install 5.3 properly?

 I have attached a log file in case this helps.

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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_anatomical_stats on custom 'thickness' file

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve

I would use mri_segstats and specify the --annot option
doug


On 05/28/2013 01:28 PM, Martijn Steenwijk wrote:
 Dear all,

 I've created a custom '.mgh' file containing values on the cortical 
 surface using mri_vol2surf. I would like to compute some statistics on 
 this surface in the aparc-areas computed by freesurfer. Can I then 
 just use  mri_anatomical_stats with option -t specifying the custom 
 mgh file as 'thickness' input? Or does mri_anatomical_stats something 
 more complex than just averaging the values inside each region?

 Best,
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Re: [Freesurfer] white matter volume per lobe...

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
what is is labled?
On 05/28/2013 01:42 PM, Gonzalo Rojas Costa wrote:
 Hi Doug:

I use the instructions that you told me... But, why I get the gray
 colored region (red arrow) ?...

Sincerely,


 Gonzalo Rojas Costa


 Message: 15
 Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 22:41:41 -0400
 From: Douglas Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] white matter volume per lobe...
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Message-ID: 51a41965.6050...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 you will need to run mri_annotation2label and specify the output to be
 an annotation file instead of a segmentation. Then you will have to run
 mri_aparc2aseg, specifying your lobes annotation as well as --labelwm
 (look in the recon-all.log file for an example of how wmparc.mgz is
 created). Then run mri_segstats (you can also get an example from the
 recon-all.log file).
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Re: [Freesurfer] white matter volume per lobe...

2013-05-28 Thread Gonzalo Rojas Costa
Hi Doug:

  It is labeled as wm-rh-fusiform and wm-lh-fusiform

  Sincerely,



Gonzalo Rojas Costa

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Douglas N Greve
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 what is is labled?

 On 05/28/2013 01:42 PM, Gonzalo Rojas Costa wrote:

 Hi Doug:

I use the instructions that you told me... But, why I get the gray
 colored region (red arrow) ?...

Sincerely,


 Gonzalo Rojas Costa


 Message: 15
 Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 22:41:41 -0400
 From: Douglas Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] white matter volume per lobe...
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Message-ID: 51a41965.6050...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 you will need to run mri_annotation2label and specify the output to be
 an annotation file instead of a segmentation. Then you will have to run
 mri_aparc2aseg, specifying your lobes annotation as well as --labelwm
 (look in the recon-all.log file for an example of how wmparc.mgz is
 created). Then run mri_segstats (you can also get an example from the
 recon-all.log file).
 doug

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 Clínica las Condes
 Lo Fontecilla 441, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile.
 Tel: 56-2-2105170
 Cel: 56-9-97771785
 www.clc.cl


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Re: [Freesurfer] white matter volume per lobe...

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
You will need to create a new color table. It is currently referencing 
FreeSurferColorLUT.txt. If you load the segmentation as both a 
segmentation and the aux volume, you can see the number associated with 
the color. You will need to create a table similar to FreeSurferColorLUT.txt
doug




On 05/28/2013 01:51 PM, Gonzalo Rojas Costa wrote:
 Hi Doug:

It is labeled as wm-rh-fusiform and wm-lh-fusiform

Sincerely,



 Gonzalo Rojas Costa

 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 what is is labled?

 On 05/28/2013 01:42 PM, Gonzalo Rojas Costa wrote:
 Hi Doug:

 I use the instructions that you told me... But, why I get the gray
 colored region (red arrow) ?...

 Sincerely,


 Gonzalo Rojas Costa


 Message: 15
 Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 22:41:41 -0400
 From: Douglas Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] white matter volume per lobe...
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Message-ID: 51a41965.6050...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 you will need to run mri_annotation2label and specify the output to be
 an annotation file instead of a segmentation. Then you will have to run
 mri_aparc2aseg, specifying your lobes annotation as well as --labelwm
 (look in the recon-all.log file for an example of how wmparc.mgz is
 created). Then run mri_segstats (you can also get an example from the
 recon-all.log file).
 doug
 --
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 Laboratory for Advanced Medical Image Processing
 Department of Radiology
 Clínica las Condes
 Lo Fontecilla 441, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile.
 Tel: 56-2-2105170
 Cel: 56-9-97771785
 www.clc.cl

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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_anatomical_stats on custom 'thickness' file

2013-05-28 Thread Martijn Steenwijk
Thanks Doug for your quick reply. But mri_segstats computes the average
value inside the cortical region in the volume, right? That's not wat I
want to have, I want to know the average value of the data in the volume on
the wm/gm surface (i sampled with projfrac = 0).

Any thoughts?



On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Douglas N Greve
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:


 I would use mri_segstats and specify the --annot option
 doug


 On 05/28/2013 01:28 PM, Martijn Steenwijk wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  I've created a custom '.mgh' file containing values on the cortical
  surface using mri_vol2surf. I would like to compute some statistics on
  this surface in the aparc-areas computed by freesurfer. Can I then
  just use  mri_anatomical_stats with option -t specifying the custom
  mgh file as 'thickness' input? Or does mri_anatomical_stats something
  more complex than just averaging the values inside each region?
 
  Best,
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_anatomical_stats on custom 'thickness' file

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
It can do both. When you spec --annot, then it does it on the surface 
and you have to pass it surface data (which you already have since you 
ran vol2surf).
doug


On 05/28/2013 02:03 PM, Martijn Steenwijk wrote:
 Thanks Doug for your quick reply. But mri_segstats computes the 
 average value inside the cortical region in the volume, right? That's 
 not wat I want to have, I want to know the average value of the data 
 in the volume on the wm/gm surface (i sampled with projfrac = 0).

 Any thoughts?



 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 I would use mri_segstats and specify the --annot option
 doug


 On 05/28/2013 01:28 PM, Martijn Steenwijk wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  I've created a custom '.mgh' file containing values on the cortical
  surface using mri_vol2surf. I would like to compute some
 statistics on
  this surface in the aparc-areas computed by freesurfer. Can I then
  just use  mri_anatomical_stats with option -t specifying the custom
  mgh file as 'thickness' input? Or does mri_anatomical_stats
 something
  more complex than just averaging the values inside each region?
 
  Best,
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_anatomical_stats on custom 'thickness' file

2013-05-28 Thread Martijn Steenwijk
Sorry, indeed, my reply was too quick. Seems to work, the results are
similar to mri_anatomical_stats.

I'm not sure whether this is relevant; but the sampling seems to be not
equally dense in the different regions. Does mri_segstats somehow cope with
this?

Best,
Martijn

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martijnsteenw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Doug for your quick reply. But mri_segstats computes the average
 value inside the cortical region in the volume, right? That's not wat I
 want to have, I want to know the average value of the data in the volume on
 the wm/gm surface (i sampled with projfrac = 0).

 Any thoughts?



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 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 I would use mri_segstats and specify the --annot option
 doug


 On 05/28/2013 01:28 PM, Martijn Steenwijk wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  I've created a custom '.mgh' file containing values on the cortical
  surface using mri_vol2surf. I would like to compute some statistics on
  this surface in the aparc-areas computed by freesurfer. Can I then
  just use  mri_anatomical_stats with option -t specifying the custom
  mgh file as 'thickness' input? Or does mri_anatomical_stats something
  more complex than just averaging the values inside each region?
 
  Best,
  Martijn
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_anatomical_stats segmentation fault

2013-05-28 Thread Rob Tennyson
Hi Doug,

It appears that the subject I'm having the PHC issue with has fewer than
163798 vertices - it has 123249 vertices - however, it seems that all of
our subjects have fewer vertices and I do not run into an error with any
other subjects with this label.

Also, I'm able to load the label onto my data in freeview without any
issue. I'm having some problems opening my surfaces with tksurfer on my lab
desktop, though. Should I upload the subjects in question so you can take a
look?

Thanks!
Rob


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 wrote:

 Nothing looks like it is wrong with that label. Can you verify that the
 white surface has not been changed since the label was created? Check how
 many vertices the white surface has with mris_info. The PHC label
 references a vertex index as high as 163798. If the white surface does not
 have that many veritices, then that could cause the problem.
 doug



 On 05/28/2013 10:33 AM, Rob Tennyson wrote:

 Hi Doug,

 Attached are the three labels I'm having an issue with (each with a
 different subject). These are built from areas that we found functional
 differences between a healthy control group and a MDD group. I was going to
 take a look at the anatomical stats to see if there are thickness or volume
 differences as well.

 I am also going to review the white surface soon as Bruce suggested.


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 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edugr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:

 Rob, can you send me your label?

 doug

 On 05/27/2013 01:00 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I'm running mris_anatomical_stats with a few manually defined
  labels. For a few of my subjects, I am getting the error:
  Segmentation fault on one of the labels. However, the other
 manually
  defined labels process without any errors on these same subjects.
 
  For example, I am running mri_anatomical_stats on subject 33_bay6
  with a manually defined ERC label, a manually defined PHC label,
 and a
  manually defined medial frontal gyrus label. The only label that
 runs
  an error for this subject is the PHC label. This PHC label runs
  without any errors on the rest of my subjects.
 
  Here is what is displayed when running a label that fails:
 
   mris_anatomical_stats -f PHC.stats.04.txt -l lh.PHC_1.label -b
  33_bay6 lh
  limiting computations to label lh.PHC_1.label.
  reading volume /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/**
 33_bay6/mri/wm.mgz...
  reading input surface
  /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/**33_bay6/surf/lh.white...
  reading input pial surface
  /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/**33_bay6/surf/lh.pial...
  reading input white surface
  /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/**33_bay6/surf/lh.white...
  Segmentation fault
 
  Does anyone know what may be causing the Segmentation fault and what
  steps I should take to fix it?
 
  Thank you for your help!
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_anatomical_stats on custom 'thickness' file

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
what do you mean? That the vertices are not uniform? mri_segstats just 
computes the mean over the parcellation without reference to non-uniformity.
doug


On 05/28/2013 02:15 PM, Martijn Steenwijk wrote:
 Sorry, indeed, my reply was too quick. Seems to work, the results are 
 similar to mri_anatomical_stats.

 I'm not sure whether this is relevant; but the sampling seems to be 
 not equally dense in the different regions. Does mri_segstats somehow 
 cope with this?

 Best,
 Martijn

 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Martijn Steenwijk 
 martijnsteenw...@gmail.com mailto:martijnsteenw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Doug for your quick reply. But mri_segstats computes the
 average value inside the cortical region in the volume, right?
 That's not wat I want to have, I want to know the average value of
 the data in the volume on the wm/gm surface (i sampled with
 projfrac = 0).

 Any thoughts?



 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 I would use mri_segstats and specify the --annot option
 doug


 On 05/28/2013 01:28 PM, Martijn Steenwijk wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  I've created a custom '.mgh' file containing values on the
 cortical
  surface using mri_vol2surf. I would like to compute some
 statistics on
  this surface in the aparc-areas computed by freesurfer. Can
 I then
  just use  mri_anatomical_stats with option -t specifying the
 custom
  mgh file as 'thickness' input? Or does mri_anatomical_stats
 something
  more complex than just averaging the values inside each region?
 
  Best,
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_anatomical_stats segmentation fault

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
how did you create the label? If it has more vertices than the subject 
has then something is very wrong. You don't always get segfaults, you 
might just get garbage and never know it.
doug


On 05/28/2013 02:32 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:
 Hi Doug,

 It appears that the subject I'm having the PHC issue with has fewer 
 than 163798 vertices - it has 123249 vertices - however, it seems that 
 all of our subjects have fewer vertices and I do not run into an error 
 with any other subjects with this label.

 Also, I'm able to load the label onto my data in freeview without any 
 issue. I'm having some problems opening my surfaces with tksurfer on 
 my lab desktop, though. Should I upload the subjects in question so 
 you can take a look?

 Thanks!
 Rob


 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Nothing looks like it is wrong with that label. Can you verify
 that the white surface has not been changed since the label was
 created? Check how many vertices the white surface has with
 mris_info. The PHC label references a vertex index as high as
 163798. If the white surface does not have that many veritices,
 then that could cause the problem.
 doug



 On 05/28/2013 10:33 AM, Rob Tennyson wrote:

 Hi Doug,

 Attached are the three labels I'm having an issue with (each
 with a different subject). These are built from areas that we
 found functional differences between a healthy control group
 and a MDD group. I was going to take a look at the anatomical
 stats to see if there are thickness or volume differences as well.

 I am also going to review the white surface soon as Bruce
 suggested.


 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Rob, can you send me your label?

 doug

 On 05/27/2013 01:00 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I'm running mris_anatomical_stats with a few manually
 defined
  labels. For a few of my subjects, I am getting the error:
  Segmentation fault on one of the labels. However, the
 other
 manually
  defined labels process without any errors on these same
 subjects.
 
  For example, I am running mri_anatomical_stats on
 subject 33_bay6
  with a manually defined ERC label, a manually defined
 PHC label,
 and a
  manually defined medial frontal gyrus label. The only
 label that
 runs
  an error for this subject is the PHC label. This PHC
 label runs
  without any errors on the rest of my subjects.
 
  Here is what is displayed when running a label that fails:
 
   mris_anatomical_stats -f PHC.stats.04.txt -l
 lh.PHC_1.label -b
  33_bay6 lh
  limiting computations to label lh.PHC_1.label.
  reading volume
 /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/33_bay6/mri/wm.mgz...
  reading input surface
  /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/33_bay6/surf/lh.white...
  reading input pial surface
  /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/33_bay6/surf/lh.pial...
  reading input white surface
  /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/33_bay6/surf/lh.white...
  Segmentation fault
 
  Does anyone know what may be causing the Segmentation
 fault and what
  steps I should take to fix it?
 
  Thank you for your help!
  Rob
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_anatomical_stats segmentation fault

2013-05-28 Thread Rob Tennyson
The labels are built from areas that showed between-group functional
differences. I am able to view the label on the subject in question in
freeview.

Maybe I'm looking at the wrong place in the output of mris_info? Or perhaps
in the wrong file. I looked at nvertices in our lh.white file.


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Douglas N Greve
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:

 how did you create the label? If it has more vertices than the subject has
 then something is very wrong. You don't always get segfaults, you might
 just get garbage and never know it.
 doug



 On 05/28/2013 02:32 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:

 Hi Doug,

 It appears that the subject I'm having the PHC issue with has fewer than
 163798 vertices - it has 123249 vertices - however, it seems that all of
 our subjects have fewer vertices and I do not run into an error with any
 other subjects with this label.

 Also, I'm able to load the label onto my data in freeview without any
 issue. I'm having some problems opening my surfaces with tksurfer on my lab
 desktop, though. Should I upload the subjects in question so you can take a
 look?

 Thanks!
 Rob


 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edugr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:

 Nothing looks like it is wrong with that label. Can you verify
 that the white surface has not been changed since the label was
 created? Check how many vertices the white surface has with
 mris_info. The PHC label references a vertex index as high as
 163798. If the white surface does not have that many veritices,
 then that could cause the problem.
 doug



 On 05/28/2013 10:33 AM, Rob Tennyson wrote:

 Hi Doug,

 Attached are the three labels I'm having an issue with (each
 with a different subject). These are built from areas that we
 found functional differences between a healthy control group
 and a MDD group. I was going to take a look at the anatomical
 stats to see if there are thickness or volume differences as well.

 I am also going to review the white surface soon as Bruce
 suggested.


 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edugr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:

 Rob, can you send me your label?

 doug

 On 05/27/2013 01:00 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I'm running mris_anatomical_stats with a few manually
 defined
  labels. For a few of my subjects, I am getting the error:
  Segmentation fault on one of the labels. However, the
 other
 manually
  defined labels process without any errors on these same
 subjects.
 
  For example, I am running mri_anatomical_stats on
 subject 33_bay6
  with a manually defined ERC label, a manually defined
 PHC label,
 and a
  manually defined medial frontal gyrus label. The only
 label that
 runs
  an error for this subject is the PHC label. This PHC
 label runs
  without any errors on the rest of my subjects.
 
  Here is what is displayed when running a label that fails:
 
   mris_anatomical_stats -f PHC.stats.04.txt -l
 lh.PHC_1.label -b
  33_bay6 lh
  limiting computations to label lh.PHC_1.label.
  reading volume
 /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/**33_bay6/mri/wm.mgz...
  reading input surface
  /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/**33_bay6/surf/lh.white...
  reading input pial surface
  /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/**33_bay6/surf/lh.pial...
  reading input white surface
  /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/**33_bay6/surf/lh.white...
  Segmentation fault
 
  Does anyone know what may be causing the Segmentation
 fault and what
  steps I should take to fix it?
 
  Thank you for your help!
  Rob
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_anatomical_stats segmentation fault

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
The label that you sent applies to fsaverage. If you want to use it on a 
different subject, you should map it to that subject with mri_label2label
doug



On 05/28/2013 03:00 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:
 The labels are built from areas that showed between-group functional 
 differences. I am able to view the label on the subject in question in 
 freeview.

 Maybe I'm looking at the wrong place in the output of mris_info? Or 
 perhaps in the wrong file. I looked at nvertices in our lh.white file.


 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 how did you create the label? If it has more vertices than the
 subject has then something is very wrong. You don't always get
 segfaults, you might just get garbage and never know it.
 doug



 On 05/28/2013 02:32 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:

 Hi Doug,

 It appears that the subject I'm having the PHC issue with has
 fewer than 163798 vertices - it has 123249 vertices - however,
 it seems that all of our subjects have fewer vertices and I do
 not run into an error with any other subjects with this label.

 Also, I'm able to load the label onto my data in freeview
 without any issue. I'm having some problems opening my
 surfaces with tksurfer on my lab desktop, though. Should I
 upload the subjects in question so you can take a look?

 Thanks!
 Rob


 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Nothing looks like it is wrong with that label. Can you verify
 that the white surface has not been changed since the
 label was
 created? Check how many vertices the white surface has with
 mris_info. The PHC label references a vertex index as high as
 163798. If the white surface does not have that many
 veritices,
 then that could cause the problem.
 doug



 On 05/28/2013 10:33 AM, Rob Tennyson wrote:

 Hi Doug,

 Attached are the three labels I'm having an issue with
 (each
 with a different subject). These are built from areas
 that we
 found functional differences between a healthy control
 group
 and a MDD group. I was going to take a look at the
 anatomical
 stats to see if there are thickness or volume
 differences as well.

 I am also going to review the white surface soon as Bruce
 suggested.


 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Rob, can you send me your label?

 doug

 On 05/27/2013 01:00 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I'm running mris_anatomical_stats with a few
 manually
 defined
  labels. For a few of my subjects, I am getting
 the error:
  Segmentation fault on one of the labels.
 However, the
 other
 manually
  defined labels process without any errors on
 these same
 subjects.
 
  For example, I am running mri_anatomical_stats on
 subject 33_bay6
  with a manually defined ERC label, a manually
 defined
 PHC label,
 and a
  manually defined medial frontal gyrus label. The
 only
 label that
 runs
  an error for this subject is the PHC label. This PHC
 label runs
  without any errors on the rest of my subjects.
 
  Here is what is displayed when running a label
 that fails:
 
   mris_anatomical_stats -f PHC.stats.04.txt -l
 lh.PHC_1.label -b
  33_bay6 lh
  limiting computations to label lh.PHC_1.label.
  reading volume
 /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/33_bay6/mri/wm.mgz...
  reading input surface
 
 

Re: [Freesurfer] mri_anatomical_stats segmentation fault

2013-05-28 Thread Rob Tennyson
That explains a lot about my problem subjects.

Just to confirm, I should use mri_label2label with fsaverage as the source
subject and the subject in question as the target? Having this run for all
of my subjects will then allow me to use mris_anatomical_stats for each
subject.

Thanks for the help!


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Douglas N Greve
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:

 The label that you sent applies to fsaverage. If you want to use it on a
 different subject, you should map it to that subject with mri_label2label
 doug




 On 05/28/2013 03:00 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:

 The labels are built from areas that showed between-group functional
 differences. I am able to view the label on the subject in question in
 freeview.

 Maybe I'm looking at the wrong place in the output of mris_info? Or
 perhaps in the wrong file. I looked at nvertices in our lh.white file.


 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edugr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:

 how did you create the label? If it has more vertices than the
 subject has then something is very wrong. You don't always get
 segfaults, you might just get garbage and never know it.
 doug



 On 05/28/2013 02:32 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:

 Hi Doug,

 It appears that the subject I'm having the PHC issue with has
 fewer than 163798 vertices - it has 123249 vertices - however,
 it seems that all of our subjects have fewer vertices and I do
 not run into an error with any other subjects with this label.

 Also, I'm able to load the label onto my data in freeview
 without any issue. I'm having some problems opening my
 surfaces with tksurfer on my lab desktop, though. Should I
 upload the subjects in question so you can take a look?

 Thanks!
 Rob


 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edugr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:

 Nothing looks like it is wrong with that label. Can you verify
 that the white surface has not been changed since the
 label was
 created? Check how many vertices the white surface has with
 mris_info. The PHC label references a vertex index as high as
 163798. If the white surface does not have that many
 veritices,
 then that could cause the problem.
 doug



 On 05/28/2013 10:33 AM, Rob Tennyson wrote:

 Hi Doug,

 Attached are the three labels I'm having an issue with
 (each
 with a different subject). These are built from areas
 that we
 found functional differences between a healthy control
 group
 and a MDD group. I was going to take a look at the
 anatomical
 stats to see if there are thickness or volume
 differences as well.

 I am also going to review the white surface soon as Bruce
 suggested.


 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edugr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edugr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:

 Rob, can you send me your label?

 doug

 On 05/27/2013 01:00 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I'm running mris_anatomical_stats with a few
 manually
 defined
  labels. For a few of my subjects, I am getting
 the error:
  Segmentation fault on one of the labels.
 However, the
 other
 manually
  defined labels process without any errors on
 these same
 subjects.
 
  For example, I am running mri_anatomical_stats on
 subject 33_bay6
  with a manually defined ERC label, a manually
 defined
 PHC label,
 and a
  manually defined medial frontal gyrus label. The
 only
 label that
 runs

Re: [Freesurfer] mri_anatomical_stats segmentation fault

2013-05-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
yes
On 05/28/2013 03:15 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:
 That explains a lot about my problem subjects.

 Just to confirm, I should use mri_label2label with fsaverage as the 
 source subject and the subject in question as the target? Having this 
 run for all of my subjects will then allow me to use 
 mris_anatomical_stats for each subject.

 Thanks for the help!


 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 The label that you sent applies to fsaverage. If you want to use
 it on a different subject, you should map it to that subject with
 mri_label2label
 doug




 On 05/28/2013 03:00 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:

 The labels are built from areas that showed between-group
 functional differences. I am able to view the label on the
 subject in question in freeview.

 Maybe I'm looking at the wrong place in the output of
 mris_info? Or perhaps in the wrong file. I looked at
 nvertices in our lh.white file.


 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 how did you create the label? If it has more vertices than the
 subject has then something is very wrong. You don't always get
 segfaults, you might just get garbage and never know it.
 doug



 On 05/28/2013 02:32 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:

 Hi Doug,

 It appears that the subject I'm having the PHC issue
 with has
 fewer than 163798 vertices - it has 123249 vertices -
 however,
 it seems that all of our subjects have fewer vertices
 and I do
 not run into an error with any other subjects with
 this label.

 Also, I'm able to load the label onto my data in freeview
 without any issue. I'm having some problems opening my
 surfaces with tksurfer on my lab desktop, though. Should I
 upload the subjects in question so you can take a look?

 Thanks!
 Rob


 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Nothing looks like it is wrong with that label.
 Can you verify
 that the white surface has not been changed since the
 label was
 created? Check how many vertices the white surface
 has with
 mris_info. The PHC label references a vertex index
 as high as
 163798. If the white surface does not have that many
 veritices,
 then that could cause the problem.
 doug



 On 05/28/2013 10:33 AM, Rob Tennyson wrote:

 Hi Doug,

 Attached are the three labels I'm having an
 issue with
 (each
 with a different subject). These are built
 from areas
 that we
 found functional differences between a healthy
 control
 group
 and a MDD group. I was going to take a look at the
 anatomical
 stats to see if there are thickness or volume
 differences as well.

 I am also going to review the white surface
 soon as Bruce
 suggested.


 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
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Re: [Freesurfer] LME toolbox - univariate

2013-05-28 Thread Martin Reuter

Hi Yolanda,

since you have the intercept you don't need both group1 and group2 (as 
one is  1 - the other), so drop beta 5 and 6 terms.
If you want to test if the slope is different between the groups differ 
just look at beta4 which is checking if slope1-slope2 different from 
zero. If it is negative slope2 is larger, if positive slope1 is larger. 
Note that if your slopes are negative, e.g. atrophy, then larger means 
closer to zero = less atrophy.


Best, Martin

On 05/28/2013 11:57 AM, Yolanda Vives wrote:

Dear FreeSurfer experts,

I am trying to use the LME toolbox to analyse the hippocampal change 
over time in a group and also among 2 groups (2 scans per subject).


When I estimate the parameters with lme_fit_FS I become a warning 
saying that the matrix is singular and my results are NaN. I guess 
that my design matrix X is not correct, can you please help me?


I have followed the example from the wiki. My model for the two groups 
study is the following:


Y_ij = ß_1 + ß_2 *t_ij +ß_3 *Group1 + ß_4 *Group1 *t_ij + ß_5 *Group2 
+ ß_6 *Group2 *t_ij + ß_7 *Gender_i + ß_8 *Age_i + ß_9 *ICV_i + b_1i + 
b_2i *t_ij + e_ij


1) intercept (all ones)

2) time (t_ij ) . Here I have 0s for the first scan of each subject 
and a number in years for the second scans. Is it correct?


3) one for Group1 and zero otherwise

4) colum 3) .* time

5) one for Group2 and zero otherwise

6) colum 5) .* time

7) Gender

8) Age of the subject at each scan moment.

9) ICV (converted to liters).

Thank you in advance,
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[Freesurfer] recon-all error: v5.0.0 - dataset 1

2013-05-28 Thread Sudhin A. Shah


BEST FITNESS (M) is 984.24263
 mri =0.000   curv = 4.318 unmri = -1001.515
 ( f=0.00 , v=0.00 , c=4.32 , q= 8.64  )
 ( f=0.00 , v=0.00 , c=4.32 , q= 8.64 )
  63 patches have been generated - 38 self-intersected
  max face = 36973(40653) - loop = 46 (73)  - ntries = [27,14799]

ERROR: _FindFacePath: could not find path!
Linux sudhin-Precision-WorkStation-690 2.6.35-32-generic #67-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 
5 19:39:49 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

recon-all -s xtyzW exited with ERRORS at Tue May 21 05:48:38 EDT 2013


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[Freesurfer] recon-all error: v5.0.0 - dataset 3

2013-05-28 Thread Sudhin A. Shah

CORRECTING DEFECT 2 (vertices=30163, convex hull=6211)
error in the retessellation
normal vector of length zero at vertex 88778 with 0 faces
vertex 88778 has 0 face
No such file or directory
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[Freesurfer] recon-all error: v5.0.0 - dataset 2

2013-05-28 Thread Sudhin A. Shah


===
*WATERSHED**
Sorting...
mri_watershed Error:
Problem in the COG calculation:
T1.mgz may not contain properly normalized white-matter.
Confirm that T1.mgz has enough white-matter voxels of value 110.
If white-matter contains few if any voxels of value 110,
try adding wm control-points to nu.mgz, and re-run recon-all.

Linux sudhin-Precision-WorkStation-690 2.6.35-32-generic #67-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 
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recon-all -s cbvfB exited with ERRORS at Fri May 17 17:45:23 EDT 2013
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[Freesurfer] recon-all errors: v5.0.0; dataset 4

2013-05-28 Thread Sudhin A. Shah
CORRECTING DEFECT 1 (vertices=33, convex hull=57)
After retessellation of defect 1, euler #=-41 (88676,260208,171491) : 
difference with theory (-61) = -20

CORRECTING DEFECT 2 (vertices=30163, convex hull=6211)
error in the retessellation
normal vector of length zero at vertex 88778 with 0 faces
vertex 88778 has 0 face
No such file or directory
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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all error: v5.0.0 - dataset 1

2013-05-28 Thread Bruce Fischl

the new topo fixer will correct this problem
Bruce
On Tue, 28 May 2013, Sudhin A. 
Shah wrote:





BEST FITNESS (M) is 984.24263
 mri =0.000   curv = 4.318 unmri = -1001.515
 ( f=0.00 , v=0.00 , c=4.32 , q= 8.64  )
 ( f=0.00 , v=0.00 , c=4.32 , q= 8.64 )
  63 patches have been generated - 38 self-intersected
  max face = 36973(40653) - loop = 46 (73)  - ntries = [27,14799]

ERROR: _FindFacePath: could not find path!
Linux sudhin-Precision-WorkStation-690 2.6.35-32-generic #67-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 
5 19:39:49 UTC 2012 x86_64
GNU/Linux

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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all error: v5.0.0 - dataset 2

2013-05-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Sudhin

you need to track down why this happened. First thing to look at is the 
tal xform
Bruce
On Tue, 28 May 2013, Sudhin A. Shah wrote:

 
 
 ===
 *WATERSHED**
 Sorting...
 mri_watershed Error:
 Problem in the COG calculation:
 T1.mgz may not contain properly normalized white-matter.
 Confirm that T1.mgz has enough white-matter voxels of value 110.
 If white-matter contains few if any voxels of value 110,
 try adding wm control-points to nu.mgz, and re-run recon-all.
 
 Linux sudhin-Precision-WorkStation-690 2.6.35-32-generic #67-Ubuntu SMP Mon 
 Mar 5 19:39:49 UTC 2012 x86_64
 GNU/Linux
 
 recon-all -s cbvfB exited with ERRORS at Fri May 17 17:45:23 EDT 2013
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[Freesurfer] hipposubfields and data

2013-05-28 Thread Joshua Lee
I have read that the hippo-subfield algorithm uses the aseg for
initialization, and then uses the original MRI data. By original, does that
mean it up-samples the conformed 1mm data to .5mm, or does that mean it
takes the original original input (i.e. my 0.7 mm isotropic MPRAGE) and
upsamples it to .5mm?

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Re: [Freesurfer] hipposubfields and data

2013-05-28 Thread Juan Eugenio Iglesias
Hi Josh,
as of now, it uses nu.mgz, which is conformed and bias field corrected
with N3. 
Koen, do you think we should add a flag to change this? The algorithm is
pretty resolution-independent, and could certainly benefit from
higher-res data.
Cheers,
/Eugenio

On Tue, 2013-05-28 at 13:34 -0700, Joshua Lee wrote:
 I have read that the hippo-subfield algorithm uses the aseg for
 initialization, and then uses the original MRI data. By original, does
 that mean it up-samples the conformed 1mm data to .5mm, or does that
 mean it takes the original original input (i.e. my 0.7 mm isotropic
 MPRAGE) and upsamples it to .5mm?
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] hipposubfields and data

2013-05-28 Thread Joshua Lee
I think the resolution is important. The CA1 subfield is only about 2-2.5
mm thick after all.

If this is a feature request thread now, let me add that it would be nice
if the actual training algorithm was integrated into Freesurfer. There is a
lot of disagreement about the most appropriate subfield boundaries, and the
ability to make custom training sets would be helpful.

Right now there is little guidance on what kind of data-sets are
appropriate to use with this algorithm. I am concerned that users are
trying to segment subfields with older data-sets that probably aren't
appropriate (e.g. 1.5 Tesla or 1.5 mm isotropic data).


Josh


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Juan Eugenio Iglesias 
igles...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Hi Josh,
 as of now, it uses nu.mgz, which is conformed and bias field corrected
 with N3.
 Koen, do you think we should add a flag to change this? The algorithm is
 pretty resolution-independent, and could certainly benefit from
 higher-res data.
 Cheers,
 /Eugenio

 On Tue, 2013-05-28 at 13:34 -0700, Joshua Lee wrote:
  I have read that the hippo-subfield algorithm uses the aseg for
  initialization, and then uses the original MRI data. By original, does
  that mean it up-samples the conformed 1mm data to .5mm, or does that
  mean it takes the original original input (i.e. my 0.7 mm isotropic
  MPRAGE) and upsamples it to .5mm?
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all error: v5.0.0 - dataset 1

2013-05-28 Thread Sudhin A. Shah
Hi! Can you please send this to me?

On May 28, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:

 the new topo fixer will correct this problem
 Bruce
 On Tue, 28 May 2013, Sudhin A. Shah wrote:
 
 BEST FITNESS (M) is 984.24263
  mri =0.000   curv = 4.318 unmri = -1001.515
  ( f=0.00 , v=0.00 , c=4.32 , q= 8.64  )
  ( f=0.00 , v=0.00 , c=4.32 , q= 8.64 )
   63 patches have been generated - 38 self-intersected
   max face = 36973(40653) - loop = 46 (73)  - ntries = [27,14799]
 ERROR: _FindFacePath: could not find path!
 Linux sudhin-Precision-WorkStation-690 2.6.35-32-generic #67-Ubuntu SMP Mon 
 Mar 5 19:39:49 UTC 2012 x86_64
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 recon-all -s xtyzW exited with ERRORS at Tue May 21 05:48:38 EDT 2013
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[Freesurfer] SUMA and FSFAST

2013-05-28 Thread Joseph Dien
I was wondering if someone could give me a summary as to how SUMA and FSFAST 
differ?  In other words, user interface aside, what would be reasons to use one 
or the other?

Joe




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Re: [Freesurfer] Subcortical Structures not included in GM surfaces

2013-05-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
It doesn't need fixing. Those regions aren't part of cortex and the surfaces 
are arbitrary there (but excluded from thickness calculations)



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 Is this normal, attached slide shows a rather common occurrence for me. Half 
 of the amygdala (blue) is included in pial surface, while the other is not. 
 How should I go about fixing, the local WM is perfectly fine so I'm not sure 
 where to start.
 
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[Freesurfer] Fwd: Re: mris_resample: Command not found.

2013-05-28 Thread zkaufman
Daniel, Stefano, Others,

A patch is now available for the mris_resample : Command not found 
error you encountered.

Simply download the file from the following link and place it in your
$FREESURFER_HOME/bin directory:

ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/patches/mris_resample

Feel free to contact me if you have any additional questions/issues.

-Zeke


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] mris_resample: Command not found.
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 11:41:21 -0400
From: Z K zkauf...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
To: Barron, Daniel S barr...@livemail.uthscsa.edu
CC: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu,
 Lilla Zollei lzol...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

Hello Daniel,

This is a confirmed issue with the 64bit Mac build. A patch to fix the
issue will be available shortly (~hours). I will email the list and you
personally once it is available. Sorry for the inconvenience.

-Zeke

On 05/28/2013 11:36 AM, Barron, Daniel S wrote:
 Hi Lilla,
 I'm using OSX 10.8.3
 Thanks,
 Daniel
 
 From: Lilla Zollei [lzol...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:04 AM
 To: Barron, Daniel S
 Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: mris_resample: Command not found.
 Hi Daniel,
 What operating system are you using?
 Lilla
 On Tue, 28 May 2013, Barron, Daniel S wrote:
 Hello,
 I am trying to perform an inter-subject registration using
mri_cvs_register on version 5.3.
 When I ran mri_cvs_check, my feedback was I needed to find
mri_cvs_register.settings.txt but I didn't worry about this per
Lilla's post:
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail//freesurfer/2012-April/023445.html
 mri_cvs_register kicks off well, but eventually it ends with:
 mris_resample: Command not found.
 I go into my $FREESURFER_HOME/bin directory and note that mris_resample
is truly not there.  Did I not install 5.3 properly?
 I have attached a log file in case this helps.
 Cheers,
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Re: [Freesurfer] mris_resample: Command not found.

2013-05-28 Thread Barron, Daniel S
Thanks for the path, Zeke. 

Because it didn't download as an executable file to my computer, I used chmod 
+x ~/mris_resample (FYI for others?)

It looks to be running normally. Will report back when finished!

Thanks again,
Daniel


On May 28, 2013, at 11:25 PM, zkauf...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:

 Daniel, Stefano, Others,
 
 A patch is now available for the mris_resample : Command not found 
 error you encountered.
 
 Simply download the file from the following link and place it in your
 $FREESURFER_HOME/bin directory:
 
 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/patches/mris_resample
 
 Feel free to contact me if you have any additional questions/issues.
 
 -Zeke
 
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] mris_resample: Command not found.
 Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 11:41:21 -0400
 From: Z K zkauf...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 To: Barron, Daniel S barr...@livemail.uthscsa.edu
 CC: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu,
 Lilla Zollei lzol...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 
 Hello Daniel,
 
 This is a confirmed issue with the 64bit Mac build. A patch to fix the
 issue will be available shortly (~hours). I will email the list and you
 personally once it is available. Sorry for the inconvenience.
 
 -Zeke
 
 On 05/28/2013 11:36 AM, Barron, Daniel S wrote:
 Hi Lilla,
 I'm using OSX 10.8.3
 Thanks,
 Daniel
 
 From: Lilla Zollei [lzol...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:04 AM
 To: Barron, Daniel S
 Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: mris_resample: Command not found.
 Hi Daniel,
 What operating system are you using?
 Lilla
 On Tue, 28 May 2013, Barron, Daniel S wrote:
 Hello,
 I am trying to perform an inter-subject registration using
 mri_cvs_register on version 5.3.
 When I ran mri_cvs_check, my feedback was I needed to find
 mri_cvs_register.settings.txt but I didn't worry about this per
 Lilla's post:
 https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail//freesurfer/2012-April/023445.html
 mri_cvs_register kicks off well, but eventually it ends with:
 mris_resample: Command not found.
 I go into my $FREESURFER_HOME/bin directory and note that mris_resample
 is truly not there.  Did I not install 5.3 properly?
 I have attached a log file in case this helps.
 Cheers,
 Daniel
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[Freesurfer] beta weights from FS-Fast analysis

2013-05-28 Thread Joseph Dien
I need to extract the beta weights from a cluster identified with FS-Fast in 
order to compute percentage signal change.  

1) I see a file called beta.nii.gz that appears to have the beta weight 
information.  It has a four dimensional structure and the fourth dimension 
appears to be the beta weights.  Is there an index somewhere as to which beta 
weight is which?  Or if not, how are they organized?

2) In order to extract the cluster, it looks like I would use mri_label2vol to 
convert cache.th20.neg.sig.ocn.annot into a volume where the voxels are tagged 
with the number of the corresponding cluster.

I could then use that to generate masks to extract the information I need for 
each cluster from beta.nii.gz.

Is that correct?

3) The final information that I would need is the canonical hrf shape generated 
by FSFAST for a single event.  I guess I could generate that by setting up a 
dummy analysis run with a single event of the desired duration and then look in 
the X variable in the resulting X.mat file?

Sorry for all the questions!

Joe






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