[Freesurfer] hippocampal subfields

2014-03-03 Thread Gabor Perlaki
Dear all,

1. Which is the suggested resolution for hippocampal subfields segmentation
with freesurfer? I've seen articles with 0.5*0.5*0.5mm^3 and with
1.0*1.0*1.0mm^3 as well. Does the hippocampal subfields segmentation really
work with 1.0*1.0*1.0 resolution?
2. The article Automated Segmentation of Hippocampal Subfields from
Ultra-High Resolution In Vivo
MRIhttps://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/articles/VanLeemputHippocampus2009.pdf.
suggested on Freesurfer's page uses FOV=448. We are unable to set up the
matrix to achieve 0.38mm resolution using this FOV. Is there any other
suggested article to set up our measurements?

Thanks,

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[Freesurfer] How to define a new label for aparc+aseg.mgz in FreeView

2014-03-03 Thread Emad Ahmadi
Hello,

I want to define a new label in aparc+aseg.mgz (to mark certain brainstem 
structures); I would appreciate it if you help me with how I have to do it.

Lots of thanks,
Emad



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[Freesurfer] Convert expert segmentation to FreeSurfer space

2014-03-03 Thread Mohamed Oualid Benkarim
Hi all,

I've performed FS subcortical segmentation and my purpose is to use these
segmentations as seeds to another method.
As FS uses GCA atlas to perform subcortical segmentation, I want to know if
the *aseg.mgz* output is in GCA atlas space,
or in original space except that the dimensions are 256x256x256, 1mm.

On the other hand, I also need to convert expert segmentations in native
space to GCA atlas space, that is, the inverse
of the process explained in
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsAnat-to-NativeAnat. I don't know
if there is a command to do so,
or we have to use a transformation matrix. In the latter case, FreeSurfer
creates several tranformation matrices: talairach.lta,
talairach.xfm, talairach.m3zbut it's is not clear which one I should
use.

Thank you in advance!!
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Re: [Freesurfer] How to define a new label for aparc+aseg.mgz in FreeView

2014-03-03 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Emad

do you mean draw one manually or add it so it is automatically labeled in 
new subjects? If the latter it requires manually labeling a training set 
and rebuilding a classifer, etc..., so it is far from trivial

cheers
Bruce


On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Emad Ahmadi wrote:

 Hello,
 I want to define a new label in aparc+aseg.mgz (to mark certain brainstem
 structures); I would appreciate it if you help me with how I have to do it.
 
 Lots of thanks,
 Emad
 
 
 
 Emad Ahmadi, MD
 ---
 Postdoc Research Fellow
 Department of Radiology
 Massachusetts General Hospital
 Harvard Medical School
 
 25 New Chardon Street, Suite 400
 Boston, MA 02114
 Tel: 617 726 5237
 Email: e...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 
 
 
 

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Re: [Freesurfer] Convert expert segmentation to FreeSurfer space

2014-03-03 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Mohamed

the segmentations are in the individual subject conformed space. The 
talairach.m3z is what is used to transform GCA to the conformed coords

cheers
Bruce

On Mon, 3 
Mar 2014, Mohamed Oualid Benkarim wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I've performed FS subcortical segmentation and my purpose is to use these
 segmentations as seeds to another method.
 As FS uses GCA atlas to perform subcortical segmentation, I want to know if
 the aseg.mgz output is in GCA atlas space,
 or in original space except that the dimensions are 256x256x256, 1mm.
 
 On the other hand, I also need to convert expert segmentations in native
 space to GCA atlas space, that is, the inverse
 of the process explained in
 http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsAnat-to-NativeAnat. I don't know
 if there is a command to do so,
 or we have to use a transformation matrix. In the latter case, FreeSurfer
 creates several tranformation matrices: talairach.lta,
 talairach.xfm, talairach.m3zbut it's is not clear which one I should
 use.
 
 Thank you in advance!!
 

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Re: [Freesurfer] Problematic dilated ventricles

2014-03-03 Thread Douglas N Greve

I think that it should. To be safe, I would cp aseg.auto.mgz aseg.mgz 
otherwise aseg.mgz will not  change (any differences will be interpreted 
as manual changes)
doug


On 03/02/2014 10:07 AM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 Hi Victor

 hmmm, I'm not sure why that didn't work. Perhaps someone else can 
 comment? Doug or Nick: if the aseg.mgz is recreated and you start with 
 -autorecon2-cp shouldn't it propagate the effects of the new aseg 
 forward?

 cheers
 Bruce


 On Thu, 27 Feb 2014, Victor Kovac wrote:

 Dear Bruce,
 Have you had any time to try to analyze our subject MPS2002-3? I 
 believe you
 mentioned you would give it a shot in your free time a couple of 
 months ago.

 Also, you were kind enough to analyze a subject for me, MPS1036-1, 
 and sent
 me aseg.auto_noCCseg.new.mgz. I replaced the original file and 
 removed thee
 new within the title, and then, to re-create the pial and wm 
 surfaces, I
 ran:

 set mdir=$SUBJECTS_DIR/MPS1036-1/mri
 mri_cc -aseg aseg.auto_noCCseg.mgz -o aseg.auto.mgz \
 -lta $mdir/transforms/cc_up.lta  MPS1036-1
 cp aseg.auto.mgz aseg.mgz

 and then: recon-all -autorecon2-cp -autorecon3, which I believe 
 starts the
 recon-all pipeline at normalization2, as you suggested. However, this 
 has
 yielded no effect that I can see when I visualize the subject with

 tkmedit $proc brainmask.mgz lh.white -aux T1.mgz -aux-surface rh.white
 -segmentation wmparc.mgz $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt

 Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Attached is the 
 recon-all.log for
 this subject. Let me know if I should cc the group.

 Thank you.
 Victor


 On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Bruce Fischl 
 fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:
   Hi Victor

   for each subject I think you want to run:


   set mdir=$SUBJECTS_DIR/$subject/mri
   mri_cc -aseg aseg.auto_noCCseg.mgz -o aseg.auto.mgz \
   -lta $mdir/transforms/cc_up.lta  $subject
   cp aseg.auto.mgz aseg.mgz


   then run recon-all from normalization2 forward (check the
   recon-all -help for these steps)

   cheers
   Bruce

   On Tue, 7 Jan 2014, Victor Kovac wrote:

 Hi Bruce,

 I ran recon-all -autorecon2-cp -autorecon3 -s
 MPS1036-1 but, again, this did
 not affect the pial or wm surfaces. I have attached
 the recon-all.log in
 case that would be helpful in diagnosing the issue.

 Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks!
 Victor


 On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Bruce Fischl
 fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:
   Hi Victor

   you can look in the recon-all -help and run
 the stages that are
   after mri_ca_label. Not sure why -make all
 didn't work, perhaps
   Zeke and/or Nick can comment?
   Bruce


   On Thu, 2 Jan 2014, Victor Kovac wrote:

 Dear Bruce,

 A few weeks ago you made code mods to
 mri_em_register and got recon-all to
 process a subject of mine, MPS1036-1.
 You sent me
 the new
 aseg.auto_noCCseg.mgz and told me to run
 recon-all
 -make all -s MPS1036-1.

 I did this but I get the message
 make: Nothing to be done for 'all'
 and when I visualize the segmentation
 with tkmedit,
 there appears to be no
 change to the pial or wm surfaces.

 Could you please advise?

 Thank you.
 Victor


 On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Bruce
 Fischl
 fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:
   if you rename
 aseg.auto_noCCseg.new.mgz to be
   aseg.auto_noCCseg.mgz

   then run:

   recon-all -make all -s MPS1036-1

   you should be all set

   Bruce


   On Mon, 9 Dec 2013, Victor Kovac
 wrote:

 I was hoping to MPS1036-1. I
 only got
 aseg.auto_noCCseg.new.mgz.
 Thank you
 for looking into MPS2002-3
 -- it is
 quite the brain.
 And somehow, with all
 those morphological
 abnormalities, this
 subject has
 an IQ of 130. Very
  

Re: [Freesurfer] Fw: Re: error in mri_glmfit-sim when using --bg and doss

2014-03-03 Thread Douglas N Greve

Try sending me another file (even junk.mgh). Until I get a valid file, I 
cannot do much
doug


On 03/01/2014 02:14 AM, charujing123 wrote:
 Hi doug,
 Thanks very much doug for your help all the time.
 I try mri_convert rh.38sb_score.10.mgh junk.mgh,and it display this:
 =
 mri_convert rh.38sb_score.10.mgh junk.mgh
 mri_convert rh.38sb_score.10.mgh junk.mgh
 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.7 2012/09/05 21:55:16 mreuter Exp $
 reading from rh.38sb_score.10.mgh...
 TR=0.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00
 i_ras = (-1, 0, 0)
 j_ras = (0, 0, -1)
 k_ras = (0, 1, 0)
 writing to junk.mgh...
 ==
 I found junk.mgh after this done. So it worked.
 And I have many files like rh.38sb_score.10.mgh(i.e. 
 rh.allsb_score.10.mgh, rh.36sb_score.10.mgh), all of these files have 
 the same question.
 Doug, I donot know why.As it creates *.y.ocn.dat for only one cluster, 
 may I try this:
 1,generate a mask which only has one cluster from ocn.mgh:mri_binarize 
 --i ocn.mgh --match 2 --o cluster2.mgh

 2,The run mri_glmfit with --mask cluster2.mgh

 3,Then run mri_glmfit-sim with simulation
 4,So there is only one cluster in the *.cluster.summary, so it can 
 create a *.y.ocn.dat.
 5,So I can use this *.y.ocn.dat file to get the time course of 
 specific cluster.
 Doug, is that appropriate, or is there any method to deal with my 
 question?
 Thanks.
 All the best.
 Rujing Zha
 2014-03-01
 
 charujing123
 
 *发件人:*Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 *发送时间:*2014-03-01 00:20
 *主题:*Re: [Freesurfer] Fw: Re: error in mri_glmfit-sim when using 
 --bg and doss
 *收件人:*freesurferfreesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 *抄送:*
 There appears to be something wrong with
 rh.38sb_score.10.mgh. Try running this
 mri_convert rh.38sb_score.10.mgh junk.mgh
 If that fails, then regenerate rh.38sb_score.10.mgh
 On 02/27/2014 08:12 PM, charujing123 wrote:
  Hi doug,
  Thanks doug.
  I try to ftp by this manu,so I think server is
  surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:
  $ ftp surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Connected to surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu (132.183.202.158).
  220 surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu FTP server (Version 
 wu-2.6.2-15.7x.legacy) ready.
  Name (surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:fsurfer): anonymous
  331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
  Password:
  230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
  Remote system type is UNIX.
  Using binary mode to transfer files.
  ftp
  this information is available on the
  website:http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FtpFileExchange
  All the best.
  Rujing Zha
  2014-02-28
  
 
  charujing123
  
 
  *发件 人:*Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  *发送时间:*2014-02-28 01:01
  *主题:*Re: [Freesurfer] Fw: Re: error in mri_glmfit- sim when using
  --bg and doss
  *收件 人:*freesurferfreesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  *抄送:*
  what server?
  On 02/27/2014 02:14 AM, charujing123 wrote:
   Hi doug,
   As file drop fail to me, so I try use ftp. And it work. I sent 
 these 2
   files in the server.
   Thanks doug.Looking forward your help.
   ALL the best.
   Rujing Zha
   2014-02-27
  
  
 
   charujing123
  
  
 
   *发 件 人:*Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   *发送时间:*2014-02-27 01:54
   *主 题:*Re: [Freesurfer] Fw: Re: error in mri_glmfit- sim when using
   --bg and doss
   *收 件 人:*freesurferfreesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   *抄送:*
   Can you send me
   rh.38sb_score.dods.glmdir/38sb_score-dods/mc-z.neg.3.sig.ocn.mgh and
  
  
 /mnt/sdb1/psylab16/BACKUP/freesurfer/freesurfer/subjects/glm/rh.38sb_score.10.mgh
  

 
  
   through our file drop https://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/filedrop2
   On 02/26/2014 01:16 AM, charujing123 wrote:
Hi doug,
OK.
Terminal output of mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir ../ --no-sim mc-z.neg.3
--cwpvalthresh */0.5/* is included in */file1/*, which cannot 
 create
something.y.ocn.dat as its several clusters.
Terminal output of mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir ../ --no-sim mc-z.neg.3
--cwpvalthresh */0.1/* is included in */file2/*, which can create
something.y.ocn.dat as it has only one cluster.
Thanks.
All the best.
Rujing Zha
2014-02-26
   
  
  
 
charujing123
   
  
  
 
* 发 件 人:*Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
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Re: [Freesurfer] WM vol as measure

2014-03-03 Thread Yang, Daniel
Dear all,

I notice that there is a file called wmparc_stats.txt
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/AnatomicalROI#Tableofwhitematterparcellationvolumes

Is it possible to get corresponding WM info for a given label?

Best,
Daniel

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On 3/2/14 7:18 PM, Yang, Daniel 
yung-jui.y...@yale.edumailto:yung-jui.y...@yale.edu wrote:

Dear FreeSurfer Experts,

FS provides thickness as the DV in qdec and mri-glmfit. Do you know how I can 
have WM vol as the DV in these tools with the same GLM model? For example, I 
want to test the WM regions that is most strongly positively correlated with a 
given factor.

Thanks!
Daniel
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Re: [Freesurfer] WM vol as measure

2014-03-03 Thread Douglas N Greve
That is the jacobian of the white matter surface when it is registered 
to fsaverage (not related to the actual white matter).
On 03/02/2014 08:40 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:
 Hi FreeSurfers,

 A related question (I can't find the answers on the FS website): 
 what's jacobian_white (as a measure)?

 Thanks!
 Daniel

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 On 3/2/14 7:18 PM, Yang, Daniel yung-jui.y...@yale.edu 
 mailto:yung-jui.y...@yale.edu wrote:

 Dear FreeSurfer Experts,

 FS provides thickness as the DV in qdec and mri-glmfit. Do you
 know how I can have WM vol as the DV in these tools with the same
 GLM model? For example, I want to test the WM regions that is most
 strongly positively correlated with a given factor.

 Thanks!
 Daniel
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Re: [Freesurfer] WM vol as measure

2014-03-03 Thread Douglas N Greve
you can just add them into your qdec file (from wmparc.stats)
doug

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 Dear FreeSurfer Experts,

 FS provides thickness as the DV in qdec and mri-glmfit. Do you know how I can 
 have WM vol as the DV in these tools with the same GLM model? For example, I 
 want to test the WM regions that is most strongly positively correlated with 
 a given factor.

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Re: [Freesurfer] WM vol as measure

2014-03-03 Thread Yang, Daniel
Thanks, Doug! But that is about using wmparc.stats as IV or 
continuous/covariate variables. I would like to use WM vol as the DV (measure).

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On 3/3/14 12:58 PM, Douglas N Greve 
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

you can just add them into your qdec file (from wmparc.stats)
doug

On 03/02/2014 07:18 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:
Dear FreeSurfer Experts,

FS provides thickness as the DV in qdec and mri-glmfit. Do you know how I can 
have WM vol as the DV in these tools with the same GLM model? For example, I 
want to test the WM regions that is most strongly positively correlated with a 
given factor.

Thanks!
Daniel
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Re: [Freesurfer] WM vol as measure

2014-03-03 Thread Douglas N Greve
It should be there if the recon did not fail. The file is called 
wmparc.stats (not wmparc_stats.txt)
On 03/03/2014 01:07 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:
 Thanks, Doug! But that is about using wmparc.stats as IV or 
 continuous/covariate variables. I would like to use WM vol as the DV 
 (measure).

 -- 
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 Postdoctoral Researcher
 Yale Child Study Center
 New Haven, CT
 Tel: (203) 737-5454
 E-mail: _yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

 On 3/3/14 12:58 PM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 you can just add them into your qdec file (from wmparc.stats)
 doug

 On 03/02/2014 07:18 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

 Dear FreeSurfer Experts,

 FS provides thickness as the DV in qdec and mri-glmfit. Do you
 know how I can have WM vol as the DV in these tools with the
 same GLM model? For example, I want to test the WM regions
 that is most strongly positively correlated with a given factor.

 Thanks!
 Daniel
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[Freesurfer] fsgd plots 2 Class

2014-03-03 Thread dgw
Hi,

What is the best way for me to either generate fsgd plots or at least
extract the data when I have 5 classes in my fsgd file (using FS
5.3.0)? I have tried the Plot fsgd option in freeview, when viewing
results, but I get a segmentation fault (I assume this means that it
isn't supported, but I included the error below just in case).

Should I just read in the thickness file in matlab/python and pull the
data out from there (I assume it each frame is an input ordered
respectively to the fsgd)?

Thanks,
Dan


 Is all of the data ingdfReadHeader: reading
/autofs/cluster/neuromind/dwakeman/study/analysis_2/glm/g5_none.fsgd
Could not find XAxis tag in file. Using default one.
�NggdfReadHeader: reading
/autofs/cluster/neuromind/dwakeman/study/analysis_2/glm/g5_none.fsgd
[0]PETSC ERROR:

[0]PETSC ERROR: Caught signal number 11 SEGV: Segmentation Violation,
probably memory access out of range
[0]PETSC ERROR: Try option -start_in_debugger or -on_error_attach_debugger
[0]PETSC ERROR: or see
http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/documentation/troubleshooting.html#Signal[0]PETSC
ERROR: or try http://valgrind.org on linux or man libgmalloc on Apple
to find memory corruption errors
[0]PETSC ERROR: configure using --with-debugging=yes, recompile, link, and run
[0]PETSC ERROR: to get more information on the crash.
[0]PETSC ERROR: - Error Message

[0]PETSC ERROR: Signal received!
[0]PETSC ERROR:

[0]PETSC ERROR: Petsc Release Version 2.3.3, Patch 13, Thu May 15
17:29:26 CDT 2008 HG revision:
4466c6289a0922df26e20626fd4a0b4dd03c8124
[0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/changes/index.html for recent updates.
[0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/faq.html for hints about trouble shooting.
[0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/index.html for manual pages.
[0]PETSC ERROR:

[0]PETSC ERROR: Unknown Name on a linux-gnu named
marcie.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu by dwakeman Mon Mar  3 13:06:37 2014
[0]PETSC ERROR: Libraries linked from
/autofs/space/lyon_006/pubsw/Linux2-2.3-x86_64/packages/petsc/2.3.3-p13/src/petsc-2.3.3-p13/lib/linux-gnu-c-opt
[0]PETSC ERROR: Configure run at Tue Aug 10 15:01:59 2010
[0]PETSC ERROR: Configure options --with-debugging=no --with-cc=gcc
--with-fc=g77 --download-f-blas-lapack=0 --download-mpich=1
--with-mpi=1 --with-x=0 --with-gnu-copyright-code=0 --with-shared=0
COPTFLAGS=-O3 CXXOPTFLAGS=-O3 FOPTFLAGS=-O3
[0]PETSC ERROR:

[0]PETSC ERROR: User provided function() line 0 in unknown directory
unknown file
[unset]: aborting job:
application called MPI_Abort(MPI_COMM_WORLD, 59) - process 0

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[Freesurfer] Freeview crashes xterm

2014-03-03 Thread Venkataraman, Archana
Hi,

I am running freesurfer on a RedHat v6.5 machine (Santiago). I think the 
installation was successful and the paths are set correctly. However, my xterm 
crashes when I try to launch freeview. Strangely, the program works as expected 
when launched remotely via NX. Has anyone encountered this problem before?

Thanks.

- Archana 

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Re: [Freesurfer] fsgd plots 2 Class

2014-03-03 Thread Douglas N Greve

Hi Dan, I have not tried the FSGD plot in freeview yet. You can 
certainly do the matlab/python thing. The order is the same as in the 
fsgd file.
doug

On 03/03/2014 01:17 PM, dgw wrote:
 Hi,

 What is the best way for me to either generate fsgd plots or at least
 extract the data when I have 5 classes in my fsgd file (using FS
 5.3.0)? I have tried the Plot fsgd option in freeview, when viewing
 results, but I get a segmentation fault (I assume this means that it
 isn't supported, but I included the error below just in case).

 Should I just read in the thickness file in matlab/python and pull the
 data out from there (I assume it each frame is an input ordered
 respectively to the fsgd)?

 Thanks,
 Dan


   Is all of the data ingdfReadHeader: reading
 /autofs/cluster/neuromind/dwakeman/study/analysis_2/glm/g5_none.fsgd
 Could not find XAxis tag in file. Using default one.
 �NggdfReadHeader: reading
 /autofs/cluster/neuromind/dwakeman/study/analysis_2/glm/g5_none.fsgd
 [0]PETSC ERROR:
 
 [0]PETSC ERROR: Caught signal number 11 SEGV: Segmentation Violation,
 probably memory access out of range
 [0]PETSC ERROR: Try option -start_in_debugger or -on_error_attach_debugger
 [0]PETSC ERROR: or see
 http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/documentation/troubleshooting.html#Signal[0]PETSC
 ERROR: or try http://valgrind.org on linux or man libgmalloc on Apple
 to find memory corruption errors
 [0]PETSC ERROR: configure using --with-debugging=yes, recompile, link, and run
 [0]PETSC ERROR: to get more information on the crash.
 [0]PETSC ERROR: - Error Message
 
 [0]PETSC ERROR: Signal received!
 [0]PETSC ERROR:
 
 [0]PETSC ERROR: Petsc Release Version 2.3.3, Patch 13, Thu May 15
 17:29:26 CDT 2008 HG revision:
 4466c6289a0922df26e20626fd4a0b4dd03c8124
 [0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/changes/index.html for recent updates.
 [0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/faq.html for hints about trouble shooting.
 [0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/index.html for manual pages.
 [0]PETSC ERROR:
 
 [0]PETSC ERROR: Unknown Name on a linux-gnu named
 marcie.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu by dwakeman Mon Mar  3 13:06:37 2014
 [0]PETSC ERROR: Libraries linked from
 /autofs/space/lyon_006/pubsw/Linux2-2.3-x86_64/packages/petsc/2.3.3-p13/src/petsc-2.3.3-p13/lib/linux-gnu-c-opt
 [0]PETSC ERROR: Configure run at Tue Aug 10 15:01:59 2010
 [0]PETSC ERROR: Configure options --with-debugging=no --with-cc=gcc
 --with-fc=g77 --download-f-blas-lapack=0 --download-mpich=1
 --with-mpi=1 --with-x=0 --with-gnu-copyright-code=0 --with-shared=0
 COPTFLAGS=-O3 CXXOPTFLAGS=-O3 FOPTFLAGS=-O3
 [0]PETSC ERROR:
 
 [0]PETSC ERROR: User provided function() line 0 in unknown directory
 unknown file
 [unset]: aborting job:
 application called MPI_Abort(MPI_COMM_WORLD, 59) - process 0

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Re: [Freesurfer] Freeview crashes xterm

2014-03-03 Thread Venkataraman, Archana
My apologies, I meant the X server crashes, not the xterm.

Thanks.

- Archana


 -Original Message-
 From: Venkataraman, Archana
 Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 1:19 PM
 To: 'freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu'
 Subject: Freeview crashes xterm
 
 Hi,
 
 I am running freesurfer on a RedHat v6.5 machine (Santiago). I think the
 installation was successful and the paths are set correctly. However, my
 xterm crashes when I try to launch freeview. Strangely, the program works
 as expected when launched remotely via NX. Has anyone encountered this
 problem before?
 
 Thanks.
 
 - Archana

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Re: [Freesurfer] WM vol as measure

2014-03-03 Thread Yang, Daniel
Hi Doug,

I am able to find wmparc.stats in stats. It shows WM vol based on pre-defined 
ROIs.

However, do you know how can we generate corresponding WM vol for a given label 
(not the D-K ROIs)?

I'd like to use WM vol as DV but are limited to pre-defined ROIs.

Best,
Daniel

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On 3/3/14 1:14 PM, Douglas N Greve 
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

It should be there if the recon did not fail. The file is called
wmparc.stats (not wmparc_stats.txt)
On 03/03/2014 01:07 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:
Thanks, Doug! But that is about using wmparc.stats as IV or
continuous/covariate variables. I would like to use WM vol as the DV
(measure).

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Tel: (203) 737-5454
E-mail: _yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

On 3/3/14 12:58 PM, Douglas N Greve 
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 you can just add them into your qdec file (from wmparc.stats)
 doug

 On 03/02/2014 07:18 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

 Dear FreeSurfer Experts,

 FS provides thickness as the DV in qdec and mri-glmfit. Do you
 know how I can have WM vol as the DV in these tools with the
 same GLM model? For example, I want to test the WM regions
 that is most strongly positively correlated with a given factor.

 Thanks!
 Daniel
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Re: [Freesurfer] WM vol as measure

2014-03-03 Thread Douglas N Greve

I don't understand. What label do you have? Do you mean a WM label or a 
cortical label that you want to find the WM under?

On 03/03/2014 02:12 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:
 Hi Doug,

 I am able to find wmparc.stats in stats. It shows WM vol based on 
 pre-defined ROIs.

 However, do you know how can we generate corresponding WM vol for a 
 given label (not the D-K ROIs)?

 I'd like to use WM vol as DV but are limited to pre-defined ROIs.

 Best,
 Daniel

 -- 
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 Postdoctoral Researcher
 Yale Child Study Center
 New Haven, CT
 Tel: (203) 737-5454
 E-mail: _yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

 On 3/3/14 1:14 PM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 It should be there if the recon did not fail. The file is called
 wmparc.stats (not wmparc_stats.txt)
 On 03/03/2014 01:07 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

 Thanks, Doug! But that is about using wmparc.stats as IV or
 continuous/covariate variables. I would like to use WM vol as
 the DV
 (measure).

 -- 
 Daniel (Yung-Jui) Yang, Ph.D.
 Postdoctoral Researcher
 Yale Child Study Center
 New Haven, CT
 Tel: (203) 737-5454
 E-mail: _yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_ mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

 On 3/3/14 12:58 PM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%3E wrote:

  you can just add them into your qdec file (from wmparc.stats)
  doug

  On 03/02/2014 07:18 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

  Dear FreeSurfer Experts,

  FS provides thickness as the DV in qdec and
 mri-glmfit. Do you
  know how I can have WM vol as the DV in these tools
 with the
  same GLM model? For example, I want to test the WM
 regions
  that is most strongly positively correlated with a
 given factor.

  Thanks!
  Daniel
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Re: [Freesurfer] Resting State Networks on Cortical Surface

2014-03-03 Thread Douglas N Greve

you will need to create a registration between your volume (maps) and 
the anatomical. You can do this with bbregister. Then use mri_vol2surf 
to map your ICs to the surface
doug


On 03/02/2014 04:21 AM, Xuelong Zhao wrote:

 Hi,

 I am trying to display the 20 ICA components in this nifti file

 http://brainmap.org/icns/maps.zip

 onto anatomical template they've provided here

 http://brainmap.org/icns/colin_tlrc_1x1x1.nii

 My question is:

 How do I extract only the cortical surface from the anatomical 
 template and overlay
 it with only parts of each ICA component that intersects with the surface?


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Re: [Freesurfer] WM vol as measure

2014-03-03 Thread Yang, Daniel
Sorry, I wasn't clear. It's a cortical label that I manually created, based on 
the pial surface.

Is it possible to generate the corresponding WM vol based on a new label (not 
pre-defined)?


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Tel: (203) 737-5454
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On 3/3/14 2:17 PM, Douglas N Greve 
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


I don't understand. What label do you have? Do you mean a WM label or a
cortical label that you want to find the WM under?

On 03/03/2014 02:12 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:
Hi Doug,

I am able to find wmparc.stats in stats. It shows WM vol based on
pre-defined ROIs.

However, do you know how can we generate corresponding WM vol for a
given label (not the D-K ROIs)?

I'd like to use WM vol as DV but are limited to pre-defined ROIs.

Best,
Daniel

--
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Postdoctoral Researcher
Yale Child Study Center
New Haven, CT
Tel: (203) 737-5454
E-mail: _yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

On 3/3/14 1:14 PM, Douglas N Greve 
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 It should be there if the recon did not fail. The file is called
 wmparc.stats (not wmparc_stats.txt)
 On 03/03/2014 01:07 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

 Thanks, Doug! But that is about using wmparc.stats as IV or
 continuous/covariate variables. I would like to use WM vol as
 the DV
 (measure).

 --
 Daniel (Yung-Jui) Yang, Ph.D.
 Postdoctoral Researcher
 Yale Child Study Center
 New Haven, CT
 Tel: (203) 737-5454
 E-mail: _yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_ 
mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

 On 3/3/14 12:58 PM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%3E wrote:

  you can just add them into your qdec file (from wmparc.stats)
  doug

  On 03/02/2014 07:18 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

  Dear FreeSurfer Experts,

  FS provides thickness as the DV in qdec and
 mri-glmfit. Do you
  know how I can have WM vol as the DV in these tools
 with the
  same GLM model? For example, I want to test the WM
 regions
  that is most strongly positively correlated with a
 given factor.

  Thanks!
  Daniel
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Re: [Freesurfer] WM vol as measure

2014-03-03 Thread Douglas N Greve
yes, but not easily. You will have to create an annotation with your new 
label in it (and any other label for the other parts of cortex) 
(probably using mris_label2annot), then run mri_aparc2aseg to generate a 
new wmparc-style volume, then run mri_segstats. You can look in the 
recon-all.log file for example command lines for mri_aparc2aseg (used to 
generate the wmparc.mgz)
doug
On 03/03/2014 02:31 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:
 Sorry, I wasn't clear. It's a cortical label that I manually created, 
 based on the pial surface.

 Is it possible to generate the corresponding WM vol based on a new 
 label (not pre-defined)?


 -- 
 Daniel (Yung-Jui) Yang, Ph.D.
 Postdoctoral Researcher
 Yale Child Study Center
 New Haven, CT
 Tel: (203) 737-5454
 E-mail: _yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

 On 3/3/14 2:17 PM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 I don't understand. What label do you have? Do you mean a WM label
 or a
 cortical label that you want to find the WM under?

 On 03/03/2014 02:12 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

 Hi Doug,

 I am able to find wmparc.stats in stats. It shows WM vol based on
 pre-defined ROIs.

 However, do you know how can we generate corresponding WM vol
 for a
 given label (not the D-K ROIs)?

 I'd like to use WM vol as DV but are limited to pre-defined ROIs.

 Best,
 Daniel

 -- 
 Daniel (Yung-Jui) Yang, Ph.D.
 Postdoctoral Researcher
 Yale Child Study Center
 New Haven, CT
 Tel: (203) 737-5454
 E-mail: _yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_ mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

 On 3/3/14 1:14 PM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%3E wrote:

  It should be there if the recon did not fail. The file is
 called
  wmparc.stats (not wmparc_stats.txt)
  On 03/03/2014 01:07 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

  Thanks, Doug! But that is about using wmparc.stats as
 IV or
  continuous/covariate variables. I would like to use
 WM vol as
  the DV
  (measure).

  --
  Daniel (Yung-Jui) Yang, Ph.D.
  Postdoctoral Researcher
  Yale Child Study Center
  New Haven, CT
  Tel: (203) 737-5454
  E-mail: _yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_
 mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_
 mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

  On 3/3/14 12:58 PM, Douglas N Greve
  gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%3E
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%3E%3E wrote:

   you can just add them into your qdec file (from
 wmparc.stats)
   doug

   On 03/02/2014 07:18 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

   Dear FreeSurfer Experts,

   FS provides thickness as the DV in qdec and
  mri-glmfit. Do you
   know how I can have WM vol as the DV in
 these tools
  with the
   same GLM model? For example, I want to test
 the WM
  regions
   that is most strongly positively correlated
 with a
  given factor.

   Thanks!
   Daniel
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Re: [Freesurfer] WM vol as measure

2014-03-03 Thread Yang, Daniel
Sounds like a lot of work, but thanks for your reply.

By the way, the wm vol generated this way is 5mm from white surface into the 
center of the brain, correct? Thus, it is not necessarily the complete WM vol 
underneath the label?

Daniel

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Postdoctoral Researcher
Yale Child Study Center
New Haven, CT
Tel: (203) 737-5454
E-mail: yung-jui.y...@yale.edu

On 3/3/14 2:48 PM, Douglas N Greve 
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

yes, but not easily. You will have to create an annotation with your new
label in it (and any other label for the other parts of cortex)
(probably using mris_label2annot), then run mri_aparc2aseg to generate a
new wmparc-style volume, then run mri_segstats. You can look in the
recon-all.log file for example command lines for mri_aparc2aseg (used to
generate the wmparc.mgz)
doug
On 03/03/2014 02:31 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:
Sorry, I wasn't clear. It's a cortical label that I manually created,
based on the pial surface.

Is it possible to generate the corresponding WM vol based on a new
label (not pre-defined)?


--
Daniel (Yung-Jui) Yang, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Researcher
Yale Child Study Center
New Haven, CT
Tel: (203) 737-5454
E-mail: _yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

On 3/3/14 2:17 PM, Douglas N Greve 
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 I don't understand. What label do you have? Do you mean a WM label
 or a
 cortical label that you want to find the WM under?

 On 03/03/2014 02:12 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

 Hi Doug,

 I am able to find wmparc.stats in stats. It shows WM vol based on
 pre-defined ROIs.

 However, do you know how can we generate corresponding WM vol
 for a
 given label (not the D-K ROIs)?

 I'd like to use WM vol as DV but are limited to pre-defined ROIs.

 Best,
 Daniel

 --
 Daniel (Yung-Jui) Yang, Ph.D.
 Postdoctoral Researcher
 Yale Child Study Center
 New Haven, CT
 Tel: (203) 737-5454
 E-mail: _yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_ 
mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

 On 3/3/14 1:14 PM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%3E wrote:

  It should be there if the recon did not fail. The file is
 called
  wmparc.stats (not wmparc_stats.txt)
  On 03/03/2014 01:07 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

  Thanks, Doug! But that is about using wmparc.stats as
 IV or
  continuous/covariate variables. I would like to use
 WM vol as
  the DV
  (measure).

  --
  Daniel (Yung-Jui) Yang, Ph.D.
  Postdoctoral Researcher
  Yale Child Study Center
  New Haven, CT
  Tel: (203) 737-5454
  E-mail: 
_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_
 mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_
 mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

  On 3/3/14 12:58 PM, Douglas N Greve
  gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%3E
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%3E%3E wrote:

   you can just add them into your qdec file (from
 wmparc.stats)
   doug

   On 03/02/2014 07:18 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

   Dear FreeSurfer Experts,

   FS provides thickness as the DV in qdec and
  mri-glmfit. Do you
   know how I can have WM vol as the DV in
 these tools
  with the
   same GLM model? For example, I want to test
 the WM
  regions
   that is most strongly positively correlated
 with a
  given factor.

   Thanks!
   Daniel
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Re: [Freesurfer] Group Analysis Questions

2014-03-03 Thread pfotiad
Hi Doug,

I was wondering about something. If I have an fsgd file that has no
variable set (just the 2 groups: Diseased and Control) do I need to
include the DefaultVariable line at the end of the file?

Thanks,
Panos

 That's great. Thanks a lot for your help, Doug!



 Those are the same things. The way you control for age is to compute a
 value for both groups at the same age (eg, age=0). If you demean the
 age, then the difference will be at age=meanage. With DOSS, the
 difference is always the same regardless of age (which makes it more
 interpretable)
 doug


 On 02/25/2014 03:00 PM, pfot...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 Hi Doug,

 Thank you for your response.
 Concerning scenario 2, I believe I have some hard time understanding
 the
 term intercept. If I'm not mistaken the intercept represents the
 cortical
 thickness at age 0. The resulting clusters by using a design matrix
 of
 [1 -1 0 0]  will give me the areas where the intercept is significantly
 different between the Diseased group and the healthy group.

   Are those clusters the same clusters that have a different mean
 regional
 cortical thickness in Diseased versus Healthy subjects after
 controlling
 for age, or are those two completely different things?


 Thanks again,
 Panos

 On 02/25/2014 02:07 PM, pfot...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 Hi FS community,

 I had a few questions regarding my understanding of the group
 analysis
 in FS:

 1) If I use an fsgd file with Two Groups (One Factor/Two Levels), No
 Covariates, and my contrast matrix is [1 -1], do the resulting
 clusters
 (if any) show the regional significant differences between the two
 groups
 by comparing just the means of the values that I am comparing? For
 instance, if I'm comparing cortical thickness between a diseased and
 a
 control group, is this going to give me the clusters where the
 Diseased
 subjects' (no age included in the fsgd file, just the two groups)
 mean/regional cortical thickness differs significantly from the
 controls'?
 In other words, is a 50 yo subject's mean/regional cortical thickness
 going to be treated the same as a 80 yo subject's?
 Yes, just a simple two-group t-test.
 2) Now suppose that I would like to control for age. Then I'm
 assuming
 that I need to create an fsgd file with two Groups (One Factor/Two
 Levels)
 and One Covariate (age). Similarly, if I would want to visualize the
 differences in the regional values of cortical thickness between the
 two
 groups but after they have been controlled/adjusted for age, what
 contrast
 matrix should I use? Normally I would use [0 0 1 -1] but this will
 give
 me
 the significant differences in the age slopes not the mean values,
 unless
 I am missing something here.
 Correct, that will give you the difference in age/thickness slopes.
 You
 could do [1 -1 0 0] to give you the difference in intercepts. A better
 way, is to first look for differences in the slopes. If you do not
 find
 any, then rerun with DOSS with a contrast of [1 -1 0]. By using a
 DOSS,
 the difference in intercept is always constant regardless of age (as
 opposed to DODS).
 doug
 Thanks in advance for your help and sorry for the lengthy message.

 Best,
 Panos
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Re: [Freesurfer] WM vol as measure

2014-03-03 Thread Douglas N Greve
Right. How do you define the complete WM vol underneath the label?

On 03/03/2014 03:01 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:
 Sounds like a lot of work, but thanks for your reply.

 By the way, the wm vol generated this way is 5mm from white surface 
 into the center of the brain, correct? Thus, it is not necessarily the 
 complete WM vol underneath the label?

 Daniel

 -- 
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 Postdoctoral Researcher
 Yale Child Study Center
 New Haven, CT
 Tel: (203) 737-5454
 E-mail: _yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

 On 3/3/14 2:48 PM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 yes, but not easily. You will have to create an annotation with
 your new
 label in it (and any other label for the other parts of cortex)
 (probably using mris_label2annot), then run mri_aparc2aseg to
 generate a
 new wmparc-style volume, then run mri_segstats. You can look in the
 recon-all.log file for example command lines for mri_aparc2aseg
 (used to
 generate the wmparc.mgz)
 doug
 On 03/03/2014 02:31 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

 Sorry, I wasn't clear. It's a cortical label that I manually
 created,
 based on the pial surface.

 Is it possible to generate the corresponding WM vol based on a
 new
 label (not pre-defined)?


 -- 
 Daniel (Yung-Jui) Yang, Ph.D.
 Postdoctoral Researcher
 Yale Child Study Center
 New Haven, CT
 Tel: (203) 737-5454
 E-mail: _yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_ mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

 On 3/3/14 2:17 PM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%3E wrote:


  I don't understand. What label do you have? Do you mean a
 WM label
  or a
  cortical label that you want to find the WM under?

  On 03/03/2014 02:12 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

  Hi Doug,

  I am able to find wmparc.stats in stats. It shows WM
 vol based on
  pre-defined ROIs.

  However, do you know how can we generate
 corresponding WM vol
  for a
  given label (not the D-K ROIs)?

  I'd like to use WM vol as DV but are limited to
 pre-defined ROIs.

  Best,
  Daniel

  --
  Daniel (Yung-Jui) Yang, Ph.D.
  Postdoctoral Researcher
  Yale Child Study Center
  New Haven, CT
  Tel: (203) 737-5454
  E-mail: _yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_
 mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_
 mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

  On 3/3/14 1:14 PM, Douglas N Greve
  gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%3E
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%3E%3E wrote:

   It should be there if the recon did not fail.
 The file is
  called
   wmparc.stats (not wmparc_stats.txt)
   On 03/03/2014 01:07 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

   Thanks, Doug! But that is about using
 wmparc.stats as
  IV or
   continuous/covariate variables. I would like
 to use
  WM vol as
   the DV
   (measure).

   --
   Daniel (Yung-Jui) Yang, Ph.D.
   Postdoctoral Researcher
   Yale Child Study Center
   New Haven, CT
   Tel: (203) 737-5454
   E-mail: _yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_
 mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_
  mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_
  mailto:_yung-jui.yang@yale.edu_

   On 3/3/14 12:58 PM, Douglas N Greve
   gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%3E
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%3E%3E
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%3E%3E%3E wrote:

you can just add them into your qdec
 file (from
  wmparc.stats)
doug

On 03/02/2014 07:18 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:


Re: [Freesurfer] Group Analysis Questions

2014-03-03 Thread Douglas N Greve
no, that is only for plotting

On 03/03/2014 03:18 PM, pfot...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 Hi Doug,

 I was wondering about something. If I have an fsgd file that has no
 variable set (just the 2 groups: Diseased and Control) do I need to
 include the DefaultVariable line at the end of the file?

 Thanks,
 Panos

 That's great. Thanks a lot for your help, Doug!


 Those are the same things. The way you control for age is to compute a
 value for both groups at the same age (eg, age=0). If you demean the
 age, then the difference will be at age=meanage. With DOSS, the
 difference is always the same regardless of age (which makes it more
 interpretable)
 doug


 On 02/25/2014 03:00 PM, pfot...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 Hi Doug,

 Thank you for your response.
 Concerning scenario 2, I believe I have some hard time understanding
 the
 term intercept. If I'm not mistaken the intercept represents the
 cortical
 thickness at age 0. The resulting clusters by using a design matrix
 of
 [1 -1 0 0]  will give me the areas where the intercept is significantly
 different between the Diseased group and the healthy group.

Are those clusters the same clusters that have a different mean
 regional
 cortical thickness in Diseased versus Healthy subjects after
 controlling
 for age, or are those two completely different things?


 Thanks again,
 Panos

 On 02/25/2014 02:07 PM, pfot...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 Hi FS community,

 I had a few questions regarding my understanding of the group
 analysis
 in FS:

 1) If I use an fsgd file with Two Groups (One Factor/Two Levels), No
 Covariates, and my contrast matrix is [1 -1], do the resulting
 clusters
 (if any) show the regional significant differences between the two
 groups
 by comparing just the means of the values that I am comparing? For
 instance, if I'm comparing cortical thickness between a diseased and
 a
 control group, is this going to give me the clusters where the
 Diseased
 subjects' (no age included in the fsgd file, just the two groups)
 mean/regional cortical thickness differs significantly from the
 controls'?
 In other words, is a 50 yo subject's mean/regional cortical thickness
 going to be treated the same as a 80 yo subject's?
 Yes, just a simple two-group t-test.
 2) Now suppose that I would like to control for age. Then I'm
 assuming
 that I need to create an fsgd file with two Groups (One Factor/Two
 Levels)
 and One Covariate (age). Similarly, if I would want to visualize the
 differences in the regional values of cortical thickness between the
 two
 groups but after they have been controlled/adjusted for age, what
 contrast
 matrix should I use? Normally I would use [0 0 1 -1] but this will
 give
 me
 the significant differences in the age slopes not the mean values,
 unless
 I am missing something here.
 Correct, that will give you the difference in age/thickness slopes.
 You
 could do [1 -1 0 0] to give you the difference in intercepts. A better
 way, is to first look for differences in the slopes. If you do not
 find
 any, then rerun with DOSS with a contrast of [1 -1 0]. By using a
 DOSS,
 the difference in intercept is always constant regardless of age (as
 opposed to DODS).
 doug
 Thanks in advance for your help and sorry for the lengthy message.

 Best,
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Re: [Freesurfer] error at spmregister

2014-03-03 Thread Borzello, Mia
So I'm running spmregister from a new computer now, and I'm still not getting a 
successful output. I am not longer getting a matlab error, but after I run 
spmregister, I then run tkregister2 but get an error that it couldn't open 
spm.reg.dat. It wasn't created in the spmregister I guess. What would be the 
problem when I ran spmregister

Thanks, 
m

From: Douglas Greve [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 10:31 AM
To: Borzello, Mia
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] error at spmregister

this is a matlab problem, not a FreeSurfer problem, so I'm not sure. It
might be the MNE toolbox. I would try commenting out all the non-FS
stuff in your ~/matlab/startup.m file and see if the problem goes away.

On 3/1/14 8:50 AM, Borzello, Mia wrote:
 I haven't actually changed anything in the setup though- how do I figure out 
 what to change?

 Thanks,
 Mia

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 28, 2014, at 7:31 PM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 wrote:

 looks like there is something going wrong in your matlab setup

 Warning: Executing startup failed in matlabrc.
 This indicates a potentially serious problem in your MATLAB setup,
 which should be resolved as soon as possible.  Error detected was:
 MATLAB:UndefinedFunction
 Undefined function or variable 'mne_setup_toolbox'.



 On 02/28/2014 12:01 PM, Borzello, Mia wrote:
 the last line of error_spm is the command line, and the errors for that 
 command are above.

 Thanks,
 m
 
 From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Douglas N Greve 
 [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 11:58 AM
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] error at spmregister

 never seen that. can you send your command line and the log file?
 On 02/28/2014 11:43 AM, Borzello, Mia wrote:
 Hi Freesurfers,

 I get an error when using spmregister saying Maximum variable size
 allowed by the program is exceeded- is that a problem with the number
 of dicoms?
 I can attach a screenshot of the error if that helps.

 Thanks,
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Re: [Freesurfer] asegstats2table error

2014-03-03 Thread sabin khadka
All aseg.stats seems to have volume of 45 ROIs with some hypointensities value 
=0. Also, I checked aseg.mgz and looks fine with these subjects. I extracted 
values with asegstats2table with --all-seg flag. I hope that is okay?




On Sunday, March 2, 2014 11:28 AM, Douglas Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
wrote:
 

That means that it was expecting to find 66 segmentations but only
found 55. Sometimes there are some segmentations in one subject that
are not in another (usually hypointensities). But 11 is too many.
Have you looked at the aseg to see if it looks right? You can also
compare the aseg.stats file to see which segs are missing.
doug



On 3/2/14 9:46 AM, sabin khadka wrote:

Hi all,
While using asegstats2table, I got following error for few subjects,
WARN SUBID: nmeasure 66, expecting 55
It let me extract cortical thickness and surface area using aparcstats2table 
though.
Any suggestions?


-SABIN


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Re: [Freesurfer] Group Analysis Questions

2014-03-03 Thread pfotiad
I see. Thank you

 no, that is only for plotting

 On 03/03/2014 03:18 PM, pfot...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 Hi Doug,

 I was wondering about something. If I have an fsgd file that has no
 variable set (just the 2 groups: Diseased and Control) do I need to
 include the DefaultVariable line at the end of the file?

 Thanks,
 Panos

 That's great. Thanks a lot for your help, Doug!


 Those are the same things. The way you control for age is to compute a
 value for both groups at the same age (eg, age=0). If you demean the
 age, then the difference will be at age=meanage. With DOSS, the
 difference is always the same regardless of age (which makes it more
 interpretable)
 doug


 On 02/25/2014 03:00 PM, pfot...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 Hi Doug,

 Thank you for your response.
 Concerning scenario 2, I believe I have some hard time understanding
 the
 term intercept. If I'm not mistaken the intercept represents the
 cortical
 thickness at age 0. The resulting clusters by using a design matrix
 of
 [1 -1 0 0]  will give me the areas where the intercept is
 significantly
 different between the Diseased group and the healthy group.

Are those clusters the same clusters that have a different mean
 regional
 cortical thickness in Diseased versus Healthy subjects after
 controlling
 for age, or are those two completely different things?


 Thanks again,
 Panos

 On 02/25/2014 02:07 PM, pfot...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 Hi FS community,

 I had a few questions regarding my understanding of the group
 analysis
 in FS:

 1) If I use an fsgd file with Two Groups (One Factor/Two Levels),
 No
 Covariates, and my contrast matrix is [1 -1], do the resulting
 clusters
 (if any) show the regional significant differences between the two
 groups
 by comparing just the means of the values that I am comparing? For
 instance, if I'm comparing cortical thickness between a diseased
 and
 a
 control group, is this going to give me the clusters where the
 Diseased
 subjects' (no age included in the fsgd file, just the two groups)
 mean/regional cortical thickness differs significantly from the
 controls'?
 In other words, is a 50 yo subject's mean/regional cortical
 thickness
 going to be treated the same as a 80 yo subject's?
 Yes, just a simple two-group t-test.
 2) Now suppose that I would like to control for age. Then I'm
 assuming
 that I need to create an fsgd file with two Groups (One Factor/Two
 Levels)
 and One Covariate (age). Similarly, if I would want to visualize
 the
 differences in the regional values of cortical thickness between
 the
 two
 groups but after they have been controlled/adjusted for age, what
 contrast
 matrix should I use? Normally I would use [0 0 1 -1] but this will
 give
 me
 the significant differences in the age slopes not the mean values,
 unless
 I am missing something here.
 Correct, that will give you the difference in age/thickness slopes.
 You
 could do [1 -1 0 0] to give you the difference in intercepts. A
 better
 way, is to first look for differences in the slopes. If you do not
 find
 any, then rerun with DOSS with a contrast of [1 -1 0]. By using a
 DOSS,
 the difference in intercept is always constant regardless of age (as
 opposed to DODS).
 doug
 Thanks in advance for your help and sorry for the lengthy message.

 Best,
 Panos
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Re: [Freesurfer] How to define a new label for aparc+aseg.mgz in FreeView

2014-03-03 Thread Emad Ahmadi
 Hi Bruce,
 
 Thank you for your response. I just want to draw manually the region of the 
 new label on the images of few subjects.
 
 What I am about to do is to define a new label for the trigeminal nerve 
 sensory nucleus (just roughly as the region that the nerve enters the 
 brainstem); I just need to label it manually for all subjects.
 
 Best,
 Emad
 
 
 
 On Mar 3, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 
 Hi Emad
 
 do you mean draw one manually or add it so it is automatically labeled in 
 new subjects? If the latter it requires manually labeling a training set and 
 rebuilding a classifer, etc..., so it is far from trivial
 
 cheers
 Bruce
 
 
 On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Emad Ahmadi wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I want to define a new label in aparc+aseg.mgz (to mark certain brainstem
 structures); I would appreciate it if you help me with how I have to do it.
 Lots of thanks,
 Emad
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Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfields

2014-03-03 Thread Juan Eugenio Iglesias
Dear Gabor,
the segmentation benefits to some extent from higher resolution data,
but produces decent estimates of the subfields at 1x1x1. We are working
on a new atlas that will incorporate much more detail, and will more
effectively take advantage of high-resolution images. 
Kind regards,
Juan Eugenio Iglesias

On Mon, 2014-03-03 at 13:49 +0100, Gabor Perlaki wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 
 1. Which is the suggested resolution for hippocampal subfields
 segmentation with freesurfer? I've seen articles with 0.5*0.5*0.5mm^3
 and with 1.0*1.0*1.0mm^3 as well. Does the hippocampal subfields
 segmentation really work with 1.0*1.0*1.0 resolution? 
 2. The article Automated Segmentation of Hippocampal Subfields from
 Ultra-High Resolution In Vivo MRI. suggested on Freesurfer's page
 uses FOV=448. We are unable to set up the matrix to achieve 0.38mm
 resolution using this FOV. Is there any other suggested article to set
 up our measurements?
 
 Thanks,  
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfields

2014-03-03 Thread Gregory Kirk
Hi, just wondering if you have a guesstimate on the ETA of the new atlas ?

thanks



On 03/03/14, Juan Eugenio Iglesias  wrote:
 Dear Gabor,
 the segmentation benefits to some extent from higher resolution data,
 but produces decent estimates of the subfields at 1x1x1. We are working
 on a new atlas that will incorporate much more detail, and will more
 effectively take advantage of high-resolution images. 
 Kind regards,
 Juan Eugenio Iglesias
 
 On Mon, 2014-03-03 at 13:49 +0100, Gabor Perlaki wrote:
  Dear all,
  
  
  1. Which is the suggested resolution for hippocampal subfields
  segmentation with freesurfer? I've seen articles with 0.5*0.5*0.5mm^3
  and with 1.0*1.0*1.0mm^3 as well. Does the hippocampal subfields
  segmentation really work with 1.0*1.0*1.0 resolution? 
  2. The article Automated Segmentation of Hippocampal Subfields from
  Ultra-High Resolution In Vivo MRI. suggested on Freesurfer's page
  uses FOV=448. We are unable to set up the matrix to achieve 0.38mm
  resolution using this FOV. Is there any other suggested article to set
  up our measurements?
  
  Thanks, 
  
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[Freesurfer] How to create a figure for a scientific article

2014-03-03 Thread charles laidi
Dear Freesurfers,

I have just performed cerebellar segmentation with freesurfer. I checked
the segmentation was correct using freeview :
freeview -v t1_xxx/mri/aseg.mgz:colormap=lut:opacity=0.2

I would like to create a figure for my article. However, I'm not able to
find a way to highlight only cerebellar cortex /  white matter with
freeview, instead of having every label of other subcortical structures in
different colors.
I would like to have only the cerebellum colored. Could this be done with
freeview ?

Thanks a lot,

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Re: [Freesurfer] How to create a figure for a scientific article

2014-03-03 Thread Douglas N Greve
not sure if it can be done in fv, but you can create a mask of just the 
cerebellum cortex and wm with mri_binarize (use --match A B, where A and 
B are the segids for the two ROIs), then use mri_mask to mask everything 
else out of your segmentation

On 03/03/2014 06:01 PM, charles laidi wrote:
 Dear Freesurfers,

 I have just performed cerebellar segmentation with freesurfer. I 
 checked the segmentation was correct using freeview :
 freeview -v t1_xxx/mri/aseg.mgz:colormap=lut:opacity=0.2

 I would like to create a figure for my article. However, I'm not able 
 to find a way to highlight only cerebellar cortex /  white matter with 
 freeview, instead of having every label of other subcortical 
 structures in different colors.
 I would like to have only the cerebellum colored. Could this be done 
 with freeview ?

 Thanks a lot,

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Re: [Freesurfer] Export freesurfer data

2014-03-03 Thread ye tian
Dear Bruce and Doug,

Thank you very much!

Would you please tell me more about what freesurfer data actually is? Is
it composed of pixel positions and intensities? If that's the case, how do
you calculate cortical thickness?

Thank you very much!

Sincerely,
Ye




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 Can you be more specific about what you mean by freesurfer data? Each
 subject has 300MB of data
 doug

 On 02/27/2014 10:48 PM, ye tian wrote:
  Dear Freesurfers,
 
  I would like to do some customized model fitting for cortical
  thickness. Is there a way to export freesurfer data into R or simply
  as a text?
 
  Thank you very much!
 
  Sincerely,
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Re: [Freesurfer] Resting State Networks on Cortical Surface

2014-03-03 Thread Xuelong Zhao
Hi Doug, thanks for the quick reply. I've been playing around with the commands 
you suggested and managed to get what seemed like a good registration by 
inspecting the green lines in tkregister.

However, I wasn't actually sure if I put the correct input:

bbregister --s colin --mov colin_tlrc_1x1x1.nii --reg 
~/Documents/Analysis/eigenmodes/rsn_smith09/colin_register.dat --t1 
--init-header

after the '--mov' option should i be using the anatomical template or the .nii 
file containing the 20 ICA components (4D)? I tried both (changing the between 
the --t1 and --bold options) and the anatomical template came out much better, 
but I thought the movable (--mov) is meant to be the functional image? 

Also, wrt to mri_vol2surf, what should the --src_type, --projfrac options be 
set to in my case?
Also for --out_type, if I want an easy format to port to matlab?

Thanks!

 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 14:20:55 -0500
 From: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Resting State Networks on Cortical Surface
 
 
 you will need to create a registration between your volume (maps) and 
 the anatomical. You can do this with bbregister. Then use mri_vol2surf 
 to map your ICs to the surface
 doug
 
 
 On 03/02/2014 04:21 AM, Xuelong Zhao wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I am trying to display the 20 ICA components in this nifti file
 
  http://brainmap.org/icns/maps.zip
 
  onto anatomical template they've provided here
 
  http://brainmap.org/icns/colin_tlrc_1x1x1.nii
 
  My question is:
 
  How do I extract only the cortical surface from the anatomical 
  template and overlay
  it with only parts of each ICA component that intersects with the surface?
 
 
  Thanks!
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] Compute DTI metrics in NAWM in Tracula

2014-03-03 Thread Celine Louapre
Hi Anastasia
I have finally managed to coregister and resample all lesion masks on DTI
images :-), and as you suggested I set the lesion voxels to 0 in
dtifit_FA.nii.gz (as well as L1 L2 L3 and MD volumes)

Then the command I found in the trac-all log was the one below
(where TRACT is the full name of the tract and SHORT_TRACT is the short name)

./freesurfer-stable5_3_0-05152013/bin/dmri_pathstats --intrc
${PATH_3T}${SUBJECTS_3T[$subj]}/dpath/${TRACT[$num_tract]} --dtbase
${PATH_3T}${SUBJECTS_3T[$subj]}/dmri/dtifit --path
${SHORT_TRACT[$num_tract]} --subj ${SUBJECTS_3T[$subj]} --out
${PATH_3T}${SUBJECTS_3T[$subj]}/dpath/${TRACT[$num_tract]}/pathstats.overall.txt
--outvox
${PATH_3T}${SUBJECTS_3T[$subj]}/dpath/${TRACT[$num_tract]}/pathstats.byvoxel.txt

However I got this error message and couldn't find in the log file how to
set the output type
ERROR: fio_pushd:
${PATH_3T}${SUBJECTS_3T[$subj]}/dpath/fmajor_PP_avg33_mni_bbr
ERROR: fio_pushd:
${PATH_3T}${SUBJECTS_3T[$subj]}/dpath/fmajor_PP_avg33_mni_bbr
ERROR: must specify at least one type of output

Would you have some idea about that?
Thank you very much
Celine


 Hi Celine - That's an interesting question. There's nothing implemented in
 there right now that would allow you to skip part of the tract in the
 along-the-tract stats. One (not very elegant) way to try to do something
 like this is:

 1. Set the lesion voxels in the dmri/dtifit_FA.nii.gz volume to zero.
 (You'll want to save the original volume under some other name for backup
 first.) If you want the same for the diffusivities, repeat for the also
 for the MD, L1, L2, L3 volumes.

 2. Run the dmri_pathstats command line that you'll find in trac-all.log
 for that subject.

 This will regenerate all the pathstats.* files, but now the parts of the
 tract that go through the lesions will have zero values (or very low, if
 they're mixed in with some neighboring voxels).

 Let us know if this worked! If not I may be able to implement something.

 a.y

 On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Celine Louapre wrote:

 Hi Anastasia and freesurfer experts,
 I am trying to get DTI values along the tracts as in the pathstatbyvoxel
 file, but excluding inflammatory WM lesions. I have masks of the WM
 lesions that I could apply on the DTI maps, but then how could I compute
 the DTI metrics along the tract with the exclusion of the lesion? (I
 guess
 the last step of trac-all -path could be applied to DTI maps that were
 masked by the lesions?)
 I would like to keep the advantage of having the DTI weighted metrics in
 particular.
 Thanks a lot for your help!
 Celine






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[Freesurfer] Matlab help

2014-03-03 Thread Saurabh Thakur
Hello Freesurfer,

I am trying to runs MRIread.m file in matlab.

But it is not reading the brain.mgz or any other format.

Can u help  in this regards.

Thanks in advance,

cheers
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Re: [Freesurfer] Matlab help

2014-03-03 Thread markus . gschwind
Hi!

Can you specify what happens when you try to read the files?




On 4 mars 2014, at 06:44, Saurabh Thakur srbht...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Freesurfer,
 
 I am trying to runs MRIread.m file in matlab.
 
 But it is not reading the brain.mgz or any other format.
 
 Can u help  in this regards.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 cheers
 Saurabh Thakur,
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] Matlab help

2014-03-03 Thread Saurabh Thakur
Hi Markus Gschwind,

I am using Matlab  7.12.0.635 (R2011a),

I am not able to read the dicom image neither brain.mgz file nor the
surface file in matlab.

I have added these file in matlab directory.

Comment or error i m getting is :

for example :


* load_dicom_fl(IM_0001)??? Undefined function or variable 'IM_0001'.*
2nd example :

* MRIread(brain.mgz,brainMRI.hdr) ??? Undefined variable brain or
function brain.mgz.*

I looking forward to work on matlab along with freesurfer.

Looking for your reply asap.
Thanks for reply.

cheers
Saurabh Thakur,






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 Hi!

 Can you specify what happens when you try to read the files?




 On 4 mars 2014, at 06:44, Saurabh Thakur srbht...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello Freesurfer,
 
  I am trying to runs MRIread.m file in matlab.
 
  But it is not reading the brain.mgz or any other format.
 
  Can u help  in this regards.
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  cheers
  Saurabh Thakur,
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] Matlab help

2014-03-03 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Saurabh,


On Mar 4, 2014, at 07:56 , Saurabh Thakur srbht...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Markus Gschwind,
 
 I am using Matlab  7.12.0.635 (R2011a),
 
 I am not able to read the dicom image neither brain.mgz file nor the surface 
 file in matlab.
 
 I have added these file in matlab directory.
 
 Comment or error i m getting is :
 
 for example :
  load_dicom_fl(IM_0001)
 ??? Undefined function or variable 'IM_0001'.
 
 2nd example :
  MRIread(brain.mgz,brainMRI.hdr)
 ??? Undefined variable brain or function brain.mgz.
 

You need to supply the full path to the volumes in a string, so 
assuming you called matlab from the same directory where brain.mgz is located, 
or used mat lab's cd('/patrh/to/your/data') to make sure you are there. Then 
simply calling MRIread('brain.mgz'); should do the trick; note: only put the 
stuff between the double quotes into the matlab command window.

best
Sebastian


 I looking forward to work on matlab along with freesurfer.
 
 Looking for your reply asap.
 Thanks for reply.
 
 cheers
 Saurabh Thakur,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:17 PM, markus.gschw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Can you specify what happens when you try to read the files?
 
 
 
 
 On 4 mars 2014, at 06:44, Saurabh Thakur srbht...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello Freesurfer,
 
  I am trying to runs MRIread.m file in matlab.
 
  But it is not reading the brain.mgz or any other format.
 
  Can u help  in this regards.
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  cheers
  Saurabh Thakur,
 
 
 
 
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