Re: [Freesurfer] hello freesurfer developer~

2015-08-12 Thread Douglas N Greve


On 08/10/2015 10:06 PM, A-reum Min wrote:
 HI expert !

 My name is Areum. I have some question to you.

 1. Does FreeSurfer offer a effect size? if that offer, how can i use 
 effect size?

If you're doing a group analysis, you can compute
fscalc glmdir/contrast/gamma.mgh div glmdir/rstd.mgh -o 
glmdir/contrast/effectsize.mgh

 2. I was wondering about the stats.dat file in stats_table (in Qdec 
 folder).

 Stats.dat file’s value mean that each area’s average (include whole 
 vertex) or each

 area’s average (only significant vertex)?

what stats.dat? if subject/stats/lh.aparc.stats, then the area is the 
total area for the ROI

 3. Can I get whole vertex value or significant vertex value? Because, 
 I want to

 compare two groups correlation using SPSS. In addition, I want to compare

 thickness, volume and surface area correlation within the one group 
 using SPSS.

You can extract a given vertex with
mri_segstats --i y.mgh --crs vertexno 0 0 --avgwf vertexno.dat
vertexno.dat will be a text file with number of rows equalt to thge 
number of subjects where the value is the data from the given (0-based) 
vertex no. y.mgh is the input to mri_glmfit

 4. I currently use the default cluster size(significant area threshold 
 is 0mm^2). So, I

 want to control cluster size larger than default cluster size. How can 
 I control the

 cluster size?

I don't know what you mean.

 5. In FreeSurfer manual, GLM and Qdec have a same results. But when I 
 use the

 both(GLM, Qdec) group analysis program results are not same. What is 
 differences

 between two analysis program? How can I get same result while GLM and 
 Qdec?

No way to know unless you tell us the specifics of what you did

 6. How can I get surface area and volume using GLM(group analysis 
 program)?

surface area and volume are outputs of recon-all, not glm


 plz reply to me


 2015-08-10 21:35 GMT+09:00 A-reum Min naniy...@gmail.com 
 mailto:naniy...@gmail.com:

 Hello developer~

 I have some questions to  you.

 1. Does FreeSurfer offer a effect size? if that offer, how can i
 use effect size?

 2. I was wondering about the stats.dat file in stats_table (in
 Qdec folder).

 Stats.dat file’s value mean that each area’s average (include
 whole vertex) or each

 area’s average (only significant vertex)?

 3. Can I get whole vertex value or significant vertex value?
 Because, I want to

 compare two groups correlation using SPSS. In addition, I want to
 compare

 thickness, volume and surface area correlation within the one
 group using SPSS.

 4. I currently use the default cluster size(significant area
 threshold is 0mm^2). So, I

 want to control cluster size larger than default cluster size. How
 can I control the

 cluster size?

 5. In FreeSurfer manual, GLM and Qdec have a same results. But
 when I use the

 both(GLM, Qdec) group analysis program results are not same. What
 is differences

 between two analysis program? How can I get same result while GLM
 and Qdec?

 6. How can I get surface area and volume using GLM(group analysis
 program)?


 thanks for your help


 2015-07-27 14:28 GMT+09:00 A-reum Min naniy...@gmail.com
 mailto:naniy...@gmail.com:

 Hello bruce

 I solve this problem(12.png)

 Thank you

 2015-07-27 13:03 GMT+09:00 dgw dgwake...@gmail.com
 mailto:dgwake...@gmail.com:

 Hi A-reum,

 I think you may be able to get a faster response if you
 include some
 details about your setup: I would start with the following:

 http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
 and run bugr.

 hth
 D

 On 7/26/15 5:17 PM, A-reum Min wrote:
  Hi, Bruce
 
  When i use a Qdec, this message(12.png) show up..
  How can i solve this problem?
 
  2015-07-23 22:57 GMT+09:00 Bruce Fischl
 fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:
 
  1. No, each subject has a different #. You can map
 to fsaverage
  (this is what -qcache does if you specify it for
 recon-all), then
  they will have the same #.
 
  2. What result data do you mean?
 
  3. Yes, although I'll leave the details to Doug
 (since I don't
  remember how his cluster code works).
 
  4. The significance doesn't depend on the cluster
 size unless you do
  multiple comparison corrections (and even then only
 if you do them a
  certain way)
 
   

Re: [Freesurfer] FW: Permutation output

2015-08-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
look in the folder of one of the contrasts (eg, 
rh-Diff-BD-HC-Intercept-sulc). Also, if you can paste such text into the 
email it is much more convenient for us than to sent us a tiff

On 08/12/2015 11:12 AM, pablo najt wrote:
 Dear FS exp,
 In case my message got swamped, I am reposting my question.
 Many thanks!
 Pablo

 
 From: pablon...@hotmail.com
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:02:54 +
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Permutation output

 Thanks. Sorry but I am not being able to figure it out yet. Basically 
 I am not getting the expected outcome.
 So I thought to give you an idea of how I am running permutations.

 mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir rh_sulc_fwhm25 --sim perm 5000 1.3 perm.neg.13 
 --sim-sign neg

 And I am attaching a snapshot of the output files and the log of 
 mdi_glmfit-sim.
 At this stage I am wondering whether in order to run permutation it is 
 required use as input the output from fsgd rather than qdec, because 
 my input is from qdec. Would this make any difference?
 Thanks.
 Pablo

  Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 11:13:13 -0400
  From: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Permutation output
 
  It is the same thing, but the permutation output will have the name you
  gave the csdbase when you ran the simulation (ie, the 4th arg to --sim)
 
  On 08/10/2015 05:54 AM, pablo najt wrote:
   Thank you Doug.
   I run permutations with mdi_glmfit-sim --sim perm. Would you be able
   to advice on the output and how to open the permutation outputs? The
   tutorial instructs on how to open the *.summary file for the summary
   of clusters and *.sig.cluster.mgh the cluster corrected map, but not
   the permutation output.
   Thank you,
   Pablo
  
   
 
   Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:53:55 -0400
   From: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Correction for multiple comparisons - qdec
  
   You can try permutation, though it is often more constraining than
   those other two options. To do this, you'll need to run 
 mri_glmfit-sim
   from the command line using the --sim perm option. Run it with --help
   to get examples
  
   On 8/7/15 6:59 AM, pablo najt wrote:
  
   Dear FS experts,
   I have a question about running corrections for multiple
   comparisons. I am finding a fairly large cluster analyzing 2
   groups on sulcal depth. However when I tried FDR or cluster wise
   correction the results do not seem to survive. As the result is on
   the region I was predicting I want to make sure there are no other
   options for correcting for multiple comparisons. I am including a
   figure of my result to give you an idea of the size of the
   cluster. Do you have any suggestions for trying alternative ways
   of correcting?
   Thank you in advance,
   Pablo
  
  
  
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Re: [Freesurfer] fcseed-sess problem

2015-08-12 Thread Douglas N Greve

The problem is that you are using the wrong segmentation number for left 
insula. You used 19, which is reasonable given that 
FreeSurferColorLUT.txt lists that as left insula, but the one you want 
is actually 1035.

doug


On 08/12/2015 11:09 AM, Gay,Charles Wysaw wrote:
 Hi Doug -
 Here is some of the information:
 FREESURFER_HOME: 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer

 Build stamp: freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0

 Kernel info: Darwin 14.0.0 x86_64

 -
 Please include the following additional information in your report:

   1) subject name: B113v1
   2) the entire command-line executed: 
 [phhp-chazgay-mb:Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project] chaz.gay% fcseed-sess 
 -s B113v1 -cfg mean.L_Insula.config
   3) the error message generated: see below -
   4) optionally include the subject's /script/recon-all.log: attached.
   5) SUBJECTS_DIR: 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/subjects

 Logfile is 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/log/fcseed-sess.L_Insula.dat.log.B113v1
 Wed Aug 12 11:03:33 EDT 2015
 Darwin phhp-chazgay-mb.ad.ufl.edu 14.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 14.0.0: 
 Fri Sep 19 00:26:44 PDT 2014; root:xnu-2782.1.97~2/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
 setenv SUBJECTS_DIR 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/subjects
 cd /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/fsfast/bin/fcseed-sess
  

 -s B113v1 -cfg mean.L_Insula.config
 freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0
 Wed Aug 12 11:03:33 EDT 2015
 Darwin phhp-chazgay-mb.ad.ufl.edu 14.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 14.0.0: 
 Fri Sep 19 00:26:44 PDT 2014; root:xnu-2782.1.97~2/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
 setenv SUBJECTS_DIR 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/subjects
 cd /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/fsfast/bin/fcseed-sess
  

 -s B113v1 -cfg mean.L_Insula.config
 freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0

 mri_label2vol --seg 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/subjects/B113v1/mri/aparc+aseg.mgz
  
 --reg 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/register.dof6.dat
  
 --temp 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/template.nii.gz
  
 --fillthresh .5 --o 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/seg.nii.gz
  
 --pvf 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/pvf.nii.gz
 PVF 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/pvf.nii.gz
 Number of labels: 0
 Annot File:  (null)
 Template Volume: 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/template.nii.gz
 Outut Volume: 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/seg.nii.gz
 Registration File: 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/register.dof6.dat
 Fill Threshold: 0.5
 Label Vox Vol:  1
 ProjType:   (null)
 ProjTypeId: 0
 ProjStart:  0
 ProjStop:   0
 ProjDelta:  0.1
 Subject:  (null)
 Hemi: (null)
 UseNewASeg2Vol:  1
 DoLabelStatVol  0
 LabelCodeOffset  0
 setenv SUBJECTS_DIR 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/subjects
 $Id: mri_label2vol.c,v 1.34.2.5 2012/06/08 17:31:03 greve Exp $
 Template RAS-to-Vox: 
 -0.333   0.000   0.000   40.000;
 -0.000  -0.000  -0.333   40.000;
 -0.000   0.333  -0.000   19.000;
  0.000   0.000   0.000   1.000;
 Template Voxel Volume: 27
 nHits Thresh: 13.5
 Loading registration from 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/register.dof6.dat
 RegMat: 
  1.000  -0.011  -0.001   9.758;
 -0.002  -0.246   0.969  -27.653;
  0.011   0.969   0.246  -1.912;
  0.000   0.000   0.000   1.000;
 Label RAS-to-Vox: 
 -0.333   0.004   0.000   36.747;
 -0.004  -0.323  -0.082   40.637;
 -0.001  -0.082   0.323   9.782;
  0.000   0.000   0.000   1.000;
 ASeg2Vol: Building LUT
 ASeg2Vol: Sorting
 ASeg2Vol: Mapping
 ASeg2Vol: Reverse Map
 nmisses = 234 (0 filled)
 ASeg2Vol: done
 PVF 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/pvf.nii.gz
 Computing PVF 27
 mri_binarize --i 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/seg.nii.gz
  
 --o 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/mask.nii.gz
  
 --match 19

 $Id: mri_binarize.c,v 1.26.2.1 2011/04/08 15:40:50 greve Exp $
 cwd /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project
 cmdline mri_binarize --i 
 

Re: [Freesurfer] Extracting MNI Coordinates from the Destrieux Atlas: Checking steps

2015-08-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
Those are more-or-less talairach coords, not MNI. If you add --nofixmni, 
the results will be reported in mni305 coords.

On 08/10/2015 08:39 AM, Elijah Mak wrote:
 Hi Freesurfer Experts,

 For the purpose of defining nodes in a graph theory analysis, I would 
 like to generate a list of X Y Z coordinates in MNI space for all the 
 labels in the Destrieux atlas. I came across a previous post with the 
 following steps:

 Step 1:

 mri_annotation2label --subject fsaverage --hemi lh --annotation 
 aparc.a2009s --outdir /Users/ElijahMak

 Step 2:

 mri_surfcluster --in 
 /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/fsaverage/surf/lh.thickness --clabel 
 lh.G_and_S_frontomargin.label --sum sum.lh.G_and_S_frontomargin 
 --centroid --thmin 0 --hemi lh --subject fsaverage


 Everything went smoothly, but I would like to check my steps with you before 
 I proceed to generate the coordinates individually for each ROI per 
 hemisphere.


 The output from #2 issum.lh.G_and_S_frontomargin. When I load it, I see

 dhcp-172-17-218-173:~ ElijahMak$ cat sum.lh.G_and_S_frontomargin


 # Cluster Growing Summary (mri_surfcluster)


 # $Id: mri_surfcluster.c,v 1.51.2.3 2012/05/31 22:10:05 greve Exp $


 # $Id: mrisurf.c,v 1.693.2.7 2013/05/12 22:28:01 nicks Exp $


 # CreationTime 2015/08/10-12:29:31-GMT


 # cmdline mri_surfcluster --in 
 /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/fsaverage/surf/lh.thickness --clabel 
 lh.G_and_S_frontomargin.label --sum sum.lh.G_and_S_frontomargin 
 --centroid --thmin 0 --hemi lh --subject fsaverage


 # cwd /Users/ElijahMak


 # sysname  Darwin


 # hostname dhcp-172-17-218-173.eduroam.wireless.private.cam.ac.uk 
 http://dhcp-172-17-218-173.eduroam.wireless.private.cam.ac.uk


 # machine  x86_64


 # FixVertexAreaFlag 1


 # FixSurfClusterArea 1


 #


 # Input  /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/fsaverage/surf/lh.thickness


 # Frame Number  0


 # srcsubj fsaverage


 # hemi lh


 # surface white


 # SUBJECTS_DIR /Applications/freesurfer/subjects


 # SearchSpace_mm2 65416.6


 # SearchSpace_vtx 932


 # Bonferroni 0


 # Minimum Threshold 0


 # Maximum Threshold infinity


 # Threshold Signabs


 # AdjustThreshWhenOneTail 1


 # Area Threshold0 mm^2


 # clabelfile lh.G_and_S_frontomargin.label


 # clabelinv  0


 # Overall max 3.33248 at vertex 83949


 # Overall min 0 at vertex 0


 # NClusters  1


 # Total Cortical Surface Area 65416.6 (mm^2)


 # FixMNI = 1


 #


 # ClusterNo  Max   VtxMax   Size(mm^2)  TalX   TalY   TalZNVtxs

13.332   83949  82219.39-29.4  -22.0   17.4  163842




 Are those TalX TalY TalZ the values I'm looking for?


 Many thanks for your time.


 Best Wishes,
 Elijah


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 PhD Candidate *|* Psychiatry

 University of Cambridge

 Trinity College, Cambridge, CB2 1TQ




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Re: [Freesurfer] fcseed-sess problem

2015-08-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Chaz, we'll need more info. Please see 
surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting



On 08/11/2015 11:40 PM, Gay,Charles Wysaw wrote:
 I've completed steps 1 thru 4 successfully (i think). When I run the
 fcseed-sess with the segid for the left insula I'm getting an
 segmentation fault. I've tried both segids 7 and 19 and have the
 same result. Selecting other seed regions (left posterior cingulate)
 generates a 1d file timecourse.
 the error log was the same both times:
 MRIalloc(0, 1, 1): bad parm
 Any ideas on what to do?
 Thanks
 Chaz
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Re: [Freesurfer] Creating proper FSGD file

2015-08-12 Thread Douglas N Greve


On 08/12/2015 06:44 AM, Silas wrote:
 Hi Freesurfer team,

 I'm currently working on a functional group analysis using GLM (i've 
 mapped my data onto the fsaverage). My problem is that I have more 
 than one functional *.mgh file per subject, and i have troubles 
 creating a proper FSGD file where i'm presenting each subject several 
 times (btw i'm using mri_glmfit).

 1) The solution to this problem might be to average (or sum) the *.mgh 
 files of each subject and implement this average file in the FSGD. 
 Which command is able to do this?
Yes, use
mri_concat file1.mgh file2.mgh --mean --o file12mean.mgh
 2) Another solution to this problem is to present the subjects several 
 times in the FSGD file or presenting several functional *.mgh files 
 per subject in the FSGD file. Is this possible?
This is also possible (it makes it a repeated measures design, which is 
more complicated. I would probably use #1

 I've tried to use mris_preproc to concatenate the files and presenting 
 the output files in mri_glmfit - but this does not seem to be the 
 solution since mris_preproc only concatenates the files.

 Thank you for your help,

 Best, Silas


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Re: [Freesurfer] Question about the outputs of recon-all

2015-08-12 Thread Douglas N Greve

fsaverage is the surface-based common-space analogous to talairach for 
MNI space. This is the space where group analysis is done on the 
surface. You can run mris_preproc to get a stack of data in fsaverage 
space prior to running group analysis with mri_glmfit. See the on-line 
tutorials on the wiki.




On 08/11/2015 09:46 PM, chenhf_uestc wrote:
 Dear Freesurfer experts,
 I am a new user of freesurfer and I just performed recon-all analyses. 
 I have some questions about the pipeline (may be very simple ^_^).
 In the fMRI, I used SPM8 toolkit to perform preprocessing. After 
 normalization, the images were transform to the MNI space. In the 
 freesurfer, there are many folders in the output subject dir, e.g., 
 bem, mri, script, surf. The first question, were the recon-all 
 analyses performed in the individual spave (I mean, unlike spm or 
 other software, there is no normalization procedure in freesurfer)?  
 If in the individual space, we should transform all subjects' files 
 into a common space for group-level analysis. How can I transform 
 them? Did I transfrom these into MNI space or other space? In the 
 fswiki, I have known that there is a fsaverage space. So, the second 
 question is that what is the fsaverage space and what is the aim to 
 introduce such space. Can I regard fsaverage space as a intermediate 
 between individual space and MNI space?  Further, in the recon-all 
 analysis, there is a procedure of talairach transformation. Were the 
 outputs transformed into talairach space?
 Any help will be greatly appreciately!
 Best,
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Re: [Freesurfer] Registering surface files from fsaverage_sym to individual subjects

2015-08-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
Those commands won't work, try something like this instead

mris_apply_reg --src $s/xhemi/surf/xhemi.lh-rh.w-g.pct.mgh --trg 
$s/surf/rh.lh-rh.w-g.pct.mgh \
   --streg $SUBJECTS_DIR/fsaverage_sym/surf/lh.sphere.reg 
$SUBJECTS_DIR/$s/surf/lh.fsaverage_sym.sphere.reg

That may not be exactly the right command, but I can't tell you exactly 
because I don't know how xhemi.lh-rh.w-g.pct.mgh was created. If it is 
on the left hemi of fsaverage_sym, then it should be ok



On 08/12/2015 05:18 AM, Adler, Sophie wrote:
 Hi All

 We have been using mris_surf2surf to register both left and right .mgh 
 files to lh fsaverage_sym in order to compare surface files that are 
 not automatically registered to xhemi/surf. We are having some trouble 
 registering the rh files back to native space. This is what I have 
 been trying:

 1) mri_surf2surf --srcsubject fsaverage_sym --srcsurfval 
 $s/xhemi/surf/xhemi.lh-rh.w-g.pct.mgh  --trgsubject $s 
 --trgsurfval $s/surf/rh.lh-rh.w-g.pct.mgh  --hemi lh --srcsurfreg 
 sphere.reg --trgsurfreg sphere.reg

 The output surface file values all equal 0.

 2) mri_surf2surf --srcsubject fsaverage_sym --srcsurfval 
 $s/xhemi/surf/xhemi.lh-rh.w-g.pct.mgh  --trgsubject $s 
 --trgsurfval $s/surf/rh.lh-rh.w-g.pct.mgh  --hemi rh --srcsurfreg 
 sphere.reg --trgsurfreg sphere.reg

 The output surface file is flipped - medial wall surface values on 
 lateral wall and visa versa.

 Is there a way to register the files back from “$s”/xhemi/surf to 
 “$s”/surf?

 Thanks,
 Sophie








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Re: [Freesurfer] fcseed-sess problem

2015-08-12 Thread Gay,Charles Wysaw

Hi Doug -
Here is some of the information:
FREESURFER_HOME: 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer


Build stamp: freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0

Kernel info: Darwin 14.0.0 x86_64

-
Please include the following additional information in your report:

  1) subject name: B113v1
  2) the entire command-line executed: 
[phhp-chazgay-mb:Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project] chaz.gay% fcseed-sess -s 
B113v1 -cfg mean.L_Insula.config

  3) the error message generated: see below -
  4) optionally include the subject's /script/recon-all.log: attached.
  5) SUBJECTS_DIR: 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/subjects


Logfile is 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/log/fcseed-sess.L_Insula.dat.log.B113v1

Wed Aug 12 11:03:33 EDT 2015
Darwin phhp-chazgay-mb.ad.ufl.edu 14.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 14.0.0: 
Fri Sep 19 00:26:44 PDT 2014; root:xnu-2782.1.97~2/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
setenv SUBJECTS_DIR 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/subjects

cd /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/fsfast/bin/fcseed-sess
-s B113v1 -cfg mean.L_Insula.config
freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0
Wed Aug 12 11:03:33 EDT 2015
Darwin phhp-chazgay-mb.ad.ufl.edu 14.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 14.0.0: 
Fri Sep 19 00:26:44 PDT 2014; root:xnu-2782.1.97~2/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
setenv SUBJECTS_DIR 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/subjects

cd /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/fsfast/bin/fcseed-sess
-s B113v1 -cfg mean.L_Insula.config
freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0

mri_label2vol --seg 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/subjects/B113v1/mri/aparc+aseg.mgz 
--reg 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/register.dof6.dat 
--temp 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/template.nii.gz 
--fillthresh .5 --o 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/seg.nii.gz 
--pvf 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/pvf.nii.gz
PVF 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/pvf.nii.gz

Number of labels: 0
Annot File:  (null)
Template Volume: 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/template.nii.gz
Outut Volume: 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/seg.nii.gz
Registration File: 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/register.dof6.dat

Fill Threshold: 0.5
Label Vox Vol:  1
ProjType:   (null)
ProjTypeId: 0
ProjStart:  0
ProjStop:   0
ProjDelta:  0.1
Subject:  (null)
Hemi: (null)
UseNewASeg2Vol:  1
DoLabelStatVol  0
LabelCodeOffset  0
setenv SUBJECTS_DIR 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/subjects

$Id: mri_label2vol.c,v 1.34.2.5 2012/06/08 17:31:03 greve Exp $
Template RAS-to-Vox: 
-0.333   0.000   0.000   40.000;
-0.000  -0.000  -0.333   40.000;
-0.000   0.333  -0.000   19.000;
 0.000   0.000   0.000   1.000;
Template Voxel Volume: 27
nHits Thresh: 13.5
Loading registration from 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/register.dof6.dat

RegMat: 
 1.000  -0.011  -0.001   9.758;
-0.002  -0.246   0.969  -27.653;
 0.011   0.969   0.246  -1.912;
 0.000   0.000   0.000   1.000;
Label RAS-to-Vox: 
-0.333   0.004   0.000   36.747;
-0.004  -0.323  -0.082   40.637;
-0.001  -0.082   0.323   9.782;
 0.000   0.000   0.000   1.000;
ASeg2Vol: Building LUT
ASeg2Vol: Sorting
ASeg2Vol: Mapping
ASeg2Vol: Reverse Map
nmisses = 234 (0 filled)
ASeg2Vol: done
PVF 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/pvf.nii.gz

Computing PVF 27
mri_binarize --i 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/seg.nii.gz 
--o 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/mask.nii.gz 
--match 19


$Id: mri_binarize.c,v 1.26.2.1 2011/04/08 15:40:50 greve Exp $
cwd /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project
cmdline mri_binarize --i 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/seg.nii.gz 
--o 
/Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/mask.nii.gz 
--match 19

sysname  Darwin
hostname phhp-chazgay-mb.ad.ufl.edu
machine  x86_64
user chaz.gay

input  

Re: [Freesurfer] FW: Permutation output

2015-08-12 Thread pablo najt
Will do that from now on. the output is as follow:This is the output I am 
getting which I believe is not what I need for check the permutation 
outputC.dat  F.mgh   cnr.mgh gamma.mgh   
gammavar.mghmaxvox.dat  sig.mgh
 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:17:38 -0400
 From: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] FW:  Permutation output
 
 look in the folder of one of the contrasts (eg, 
 rh-Diff-BD-HC-Intercept-sulc). Also, if you can paste such text into the 
 email it is much more convenient for us than to sent us a tiff
 
 On 08/12/2015 11:12 AM, pablo najt wrote:
  Dear FS exp,
  In case my message got swamped, I am reposting my question.
  Many thanks!
  Pablo
 
  
  From: pablon...@hotmail.com
  To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:02:54 +
  Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Permutation output
 
  Thanks. Sorry but I am not being able to figure it out yet. Basically 
  I am not getting the expected outcome.
  So I thought to give you an idea of how I am running permutations.
 
  mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir rh_sulc_fwhm25 --sim perm 5000 1.3 perm.neg.13 
  --sim-sign neg
 
  And I am attaching a snapshot of the output files and the log of 
  mdi_glmfit-sim.
  At this stage I am wondering whether in order to run permutation it is 
  required use as input the output from fsgd rather than qdec, because 
  my input is from qdec. Would this make any difference?
  Thanks.
  Pablo
 
   Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 11:13:13 -0400
   From: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Permutation output
  
   It is the same thing, but the permutation output will have the name you
   gave the csdbase when you ran the simulation (ie, the 4th arg to --sim)
  
   On 08/10/2015 05:54 AM, pablo najt wrote:
Thank you Doug.
I run permutations with mdi_glmfit-sim --sim perm. Would you be able
to advice on the output and how to open the permutation outputs? The
tutorial instructs on how to open the *.summary file for the summary
of clusters and *.sig.cluster.mgh the cluster corrected map, but not
the permutation output.
Thank you,
Pablo
   

  
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:53:55 -0400
From: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Correction for multiple comparisons - qdec
   
You can try permutation, though it is often more constraining than
those other two options. To do this, you'll need to run 
  mri_glmfit-sim
from the command line using the --sim perm option. Run it with --help
to get examples
   
On 8/7/15 6:59 AM, pablo najt wrote:
   
Dear FS experts,
I have a question about running corrections for multiple
comparisons. I am finding a fairly large cluster analyzing 2
groups on sulcal depth. However when I tried FDR or cluster wise
correction the results do not seem to survive. As the result is on
the region I was predicting I want to make sure there are no other
options for correcting for multiple comparisons. I am including a
figure of my result to give you an idea of the size of the
cluster. Do you have any suggestions for trying alternative ways
of correcting?
Thank you in advance,
Pablo
   
   
   
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Re: [Freesurfer] uploading a surface in freeview

2015-08-12 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Carina

the first argument after the -f has to be a surface file, not an overlay. 
For example try using lh.inflated or lh.pial



cheers
Bruce

p.s. if you paste text into the emails instead of taking screen shots of 
text it would simplify things
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015, 
car...@van-vlodrop.de wrote:



  Hi Bruce,
 
I send you a screenshot of my command field with my command line and the
following error message.
Thank you very much for your help.
Carina
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. August 2015 um 16:54 Uhr Von: Bruce Fischl
fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu An: Freesurfer support list
freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] uploading a
surface in freeview
Hi Carina you need to send us your full command line and screen output
otherwise we don't have enough information to help you. cheers Bruce On Tue,
11 Aug 2015, car...@van-vlodrop.de wrote:  Hi Bruce,  Thank you for your
answer.  When I type the path to the surface with the beginning and endling
you told  me, freeview opens with the error message 'failed to load
surface' and in  the command field it says 'MRISread failed'.  Do you have
any idea of how it is possible to avoid this error?     Best regards,
Carina    Gesendet: Sonntag, 09. August 2015 um 16:33 Uhr Von: Bruce
Fischl  An: Freesurfer support list  Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer]
uploading a  surface in freeview  Hi Carina it should be something like:
freeview -f  /lh.inflated:overlay=mc-z.abs.2.sig.cluster.mgh assuming 
mc-z.abs.2.sig.cluster.mgh is in your current directory cheers Bruce On Sun,
 9 Aug 2015, car...@van-vlodrop.de wrote:  Hi Lilla,  I still have the 
problem to display my surface created by the Monte Carlo  analysis.  There
 are several files generated and I think that 
'mc-z.abs.2.sig.cluster.mgh'  should be the correct one to show the overlay
 in freeview.  Could you  please tell me which complete command I have to
type in after  opening  freesurfer?     Thank you very much.  Best
regards, Carina     Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2014 um 14:01 Uhr
Von: Lilla Zollei   An: Freesurfer support list  Betreff: Re:
[Freesurfer] uploading a   surface in freeview  Hi Carina, You can use
the -f option (instead of -v  used for volumes) when  you are calling
freeview from the commandline in  order to display a surface  and then
append :overlay=overlay_filename after  the filename to identify the 
overlay that you want to use. You will need  to decide which hemi and which
 surface you want to use and type the full  path to it and the same with
the  overlay. Lilla On Wed, 16 Jul 2014,  car...@van-vlodrop.de wrote: 
Dear  Freesurfer experts,  I have already  run a Monte Carlo Simulation
and I  would like to upload the results in  freeview. The simulation
created a file  ending with .mgh and the tutorial  identifies it to be the
overlay. Do I have  to upload a surface first and  afterwards the overlay?
How can I upload a  surface and which is the right  one?     Yours
sincerely,  Carina        
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[Freesurfer] the effects of cortical edits

2015-08-12 Thread Eric Cunningham
Hello Freesurfer Experts,

Our group is trying to determine the importance of manual edits on our
data.  After discovering poor white matter segmentation in the
supramarginal/inferiorparietal regions, we performed manual edits as
described in the FsTutorial.

Surprisingly, the areas we edited had relatively small changes on the
aparc.stats table in rh.area (0-8%) and other regions we didn't edit, such
as the bankssts, entorhinal, and parsopercularis regions had much larger
changes in rh.area (11-20%).

Does this mean that the edits (and presumably errors) in one region of the
brain affect the entire cortical template?

Thanks,
-Eric
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[Freesurfer] FW: Freesurfer tool for children's data

2015-08-12 Thread Mayer Kristina
Hi Lilla,
Is the tool ready to  be tested yet? Would be great to get it before 
SeptemberThank you!

Best wishes, Kristina

-Original Message-
From: Mayer Kristina 
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 9:20 AM
To: 'Freesurfer support list'
Subject: RE: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer tool for children's data

 
Hi Lilla, hoe is it going with the new stream? Is it ready to be tested? Would 
be great if you could send me the version soon, as I have now one month in 
research and plenty of time to try it!!

Best wishes, Kristina

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From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
[mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Lilla Zollei
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 5:37 PM
To: Freesurfer support list
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer tool for children's data


Hi Kristina,

I am working on a stream that will be applicable to exactly to this age group, 
but as Bruce mentioned it is not ready for prime time. I would prefer waiting 
another month or so before giving you a beta version. 
Would that work?

Lilla

On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, Mayer Kristina wrote:

 Hi Bruce,
 from 18-36 months of age. I got good results when adding some flags 
 (adjustment of wsthresh, -bigventricles, -mprage) but still it is lot of work 
 for adjustment, as the contrasts is slight different at that ageIs there 
 a preliminary version I could try with? Would be great opportunity, as I also 
 have data from fsl and wpm to compare with.

 Cheers,
 Kristina
 
 Von: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]quot; im Auftrag von 
 quot;Bruce Fischl [fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2015 16:37
 An: Freesurfer support list
 Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer tool for children's data

 Hi Kristina

 what age? It works reasonably well down to 7 or even 5. Younger than 
 that is something that Lilla Zollei has made a lot of progress on, but 
 isn't ready for distribution yet

 cheers
 Bruce


 On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Mayer Kristina wrote:

 Dear all,
 I was wondering if your free surfer pipeline (recon-all) is now available 
 for children's data. If so, is there a page where it is described?
 Best wishes, Kristina

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[Freesurfer] Creating proper FSGD file

2015-08-12 Thread Silas
Hi Freesurfer team,
I'm currently working on a functional group analysis using GLM (i've mapped my 
data onto the fsaverage). My problem is that I have more than one functional 
*.mgh file per subject, and i have troubles creating a proper FSGD file where 
i'm presenting each subject several times (btw i'm using mri_glmfit).
1) The solution to this problem might be to average (or sum) the *.mgh files of 
each subject and implement this average file in the FSGD. Which command is able 
to do this?2) Another solution to this problem is to present the subjects 
several times in the FSGD file or presenting several functional *.mgh files per 
subject in the FSGD file. Is this possible? 
I've tried to use mris_preproc to concatenate the files and presenting the 
output files in mri_glmfit - but this does not seem to be the solution since 
mris_preproc only concatenates the files.
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[Freesurfer] Registering surface files from fsaverage_sym to individual subjects

2015-08-12 Thread Adler, Sophie
Hi All

We have been using mris_surf2surf to register both left and right .mgh files to 
lh fsaverage_sym in order to compare surface files that are not automatically 
registered to xhemi/surf. We are having some trouble registering the rh files 
back to native space. This is what I have been trying:

1) mri_surf2surf --srcsubject fsaverage_sym --srcsurfval 
$s/xhemi/surf/xhemi.lh-rh.w-g.pct.mgh  --trgsubject $s --trgsurfval 
$s/surf/rh.lh-rh.w-g.pct.mgh  --hemi lh --srcsurfreg sphere.reg --trgsurfreg 
sphere.reg

The output surface file values all equal 0.

2) mri_surf2surf --srcsubject fsaverage_sym --srcsurfval 
$s/xhemi/surf/xhemi.lh-rh.w-g.pct.mgh  --trgsubject $s --trgsurfval 
$s/surf/rh.lh-rh.w-g.pct.mgh  --hemi rh --srcsurfreg sphere.reg --trgsurfreg 
sphere.reg

The output surface file is flipped - medial wall surface values on lateral wall 
and visa versa.

Is there a way to register the files back from “$s”/xhemi/surf to “$s”/surf?

Thanks,
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[Freesurfer] Question about Talairach

2015-08-12 Thread Lauren Gresham
Hello,

I was following the instructions on the wiki
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/Talairach_freeview to
check the registrations on some subjects.

I ran the following command from my subjects dir, to view subject 001:
freeview -v 001/mri/T1.mgz
001/mri/brainmask.mgz:reg=001/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm

I get the following errors:

regio_read_mincxfm: No such file or directory
ERROR: could not read
/path/to/subjects_dir/001/mri/001/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm
ERROR: could not read
/path/to/subjects_dir/001/mri/001/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm
Read registration failed

The T1 file is loaded, but not the brainmask.mgz file.
It looks like the command was expecting relative paths for the registration
from the file, so I reran using:
freeview -v 001/mri/T1.mgz
001/mri/brainmask.mgz:reg=transforms/talairach.xfm

When I do that, it brings up both the T1 and brainmask file, but outputs a
different error:

Not reading in xfm fileinfo
Not reading in xfm fileinfo

The brainmask file appears shifted up and backwards considerably, but still
centered widthwise. However, I am not sure if this has something to do with
it
not loading the file correctly, or if the transform was indeed erroneous.

Appreciate any insight!

Lauren Gresham
Research Specialist
Waisman Waisman Laboratory for Brain Imaging  Behavior
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Re: [Freesurfer] mris_register problem: No such file or directory

2015-08-12 Thread Fidel Alfaro Almagro
Hi,

I've had time to come back to this problem. It was not solved after
recreating the sphere. And plus, it happens in 30% of my subjects
(Approximately).

I have opened the sphere and I can see no problem there (nor there is any
kind of error message after opening it.

Could you tell me what files are used in the mris_register -curv command
(appart from the obvious lh.sphere and
lh.average.curvature.filled.buckner40.tif) in order to check if there is
any problem with them. The fact that the original error message is No such
file or directory is intriguing.

Cheers.




2015-08-02 18:57 GMT+01:00 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:

 try opening it in tksurfer and see if it complains

 On Sun, 2 Aug 2015, Fidel Alfaro Almagro wrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks for the quick answer.

 There was no error message in the previous steps.

 I started it with : mris_sphere -seed 1234 ../surf/lh.inflated
 ../surf/lh.sphere

 Although if the seed is the same, I am guessing that any non-deterministic
 process would have the same output.

 Is there a a way to automatically know if there was a problem in the
 sphere
 creation?

 Cheers.


 2015-08-02 16:27 GMT+01:00 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:
   hmm, something seems to be wrong maybe the the ?h.sphere. Can
   you try recreating it
   cheers
   Bruce
   On Sun, 2 Aug 2015, Fidel Alfaro Almagro wrote:

 Hi all,

 I received an error in one of the steps of
 recon-all. The error is No such
 file or directory at the end of one of the
 registration processes.

 The step was mris_register -curv. The command was:

 mris_register -curv ../surf/lh.sphere
 FS_DIR/average/lh.average.curvature.filled.buckner40.tif
 ../surf/lh.sphere.reg

 I already checked that  ../surf/lh.sphere and
 FS_DIR/average/lh.average.curvature.filled.buckner40.tif
 exist (and are
 readable). I also checked that the output directorry
 (../surf/ ) has the
 proper permisons to write.

 The version of mris_register is stable5.

 Finally, the complete output message is (Please,
 note that the parts with 
 have been edited by me for privacy reasons:

 #
 #@# Surf Reg lh Sun Aug  2 00:52:59 BST 2015
 SUBJECT_DIR/scripts

  mris_register -curv ../surf/lh.sphere
 FS_DIR/average/lh.average.curvature.filled.buckner40.tif
 ../surf/lh.sphere.reg

 using smoothwm curvature for final alignment
 $Id: mris_register.c,v 1.59 2011/03/02 00:04:33
 nicks Exp $
   $Id: mrisurf.c,v 1.693.2.7 2013/05/12 22:28:01
 nicks Exp $
 reading surface from ../surf/lh.sphere...
 reading template parameterization from
 FS_DIR/average/lh.average.curvature.filled.buckner40.tif...
 MRISregister() ---
 max_passes = 4
 min_degrees = 0.50
 max_degrees = 64.00
 nangles = 8
 tol=5.0e-01, sigma=0.0, host=HOST., nav=1024,
 nbrs=1, l_extern=1.000,
 l_parea=0.200, l_nlarea=1.000, l_corr=1.000,
 l_dist=5.000
 using quadratic fit line minimization
 complete_dist_mat 0
 rms 0
 smooth_averages 0
 remove_neg 0
 ico_order 0
 which_surface 0
 target_radius 0.00
 nfields 0
 scale 0.00
 desired_rms_height -1.00
 momentum 0.95
 nbhd_size -10
 max_nbrs 10
 niterations 25
 nsurfaces 0
 SURFACES 3
 flags 16 (10)
 use curv 16
 no sulc 0
 no rigid align 0
 mris-nsize 1
 mris-hemisphere 0
 randomSeed 0

 tol=5.0e-01, sigma=0.0, host=HOST., nav=1024,
 nbrs=1, l_extern=1.000,
 l_parea=0.200, l_nlarea=1.000, l_corr=1.000,
 l_dist=5.000
 using quadratic fit line minimization
 
 1 Reading lh.sulc
 curvature mean = -0.000, std = 0.575
 curvature mean = 0.028, std = 0.935
 curvature mean = -0.002, std = 0.850
 Starting MRISrigidBodyAlignGlobal()
   d=64.00 min @ (16.00, 32.00, -64.00) sse =
 463438.8, tmin=0.7880
   d=16.00 min @ (0.00, -4.00, 4.00) sse = 460445.8,
 tmin=2.3467
   d=8.00 min @ (0.00, 0.00, -2.00) sse = 460199.6,
 tmin=3.1967
   d=4.00 min @ (0.00, 0.00, 1.00) sse = 459864.8,
 tmin=4.0376
   d=2.00 min @ (-0.50, -0.50, 

Re: [Freesurfer] fcseed-sess problem

2015-08-12 Thread Gay,Charles Wysaw
Thank you. issue resolved.

On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:20:53 -0400, Douglas N Greve wrote:
 The problem is that you are using the wrong segmentation number for 
 left
 insula. You used 19, which is reasonable given that
 FreeSurferColorLUT.txt lists that as left insula, but the one you 
 want
 is actually 1035.

 doug


 On 08/12/2015 11:09 AM, Gay,Charles Wysaw wrote:
 Hi Doug -
 Here is some of the information:
 FREESURFER_HOME:
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer

 Build stamp: freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0

 Kernel info: Darwin 14.0.0 x86_64

 
 -
 Please include the following additional information in your report:

   1) subject name: B113v1
   2) the entire command-line executed:
 [phhp-chazgay-mb:Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project] chaz.gay% 
 fcseed-sess
 -s B113v1 -cfg mean.L_Insula.config
   3) the error message generated: see below -
   4) optionally include the subject's /script/recon-all.log: 
 attached.
   5) SUBJECTS_DIR:
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/subjects

 Logfile is
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/log/fcseed-sess.L_Insula.dat.log.B113v1
 Wed Aug 12 11:03:33 EDT 2015
 Darwin phhp-chazgay-mb.ad.ufl.edu 14.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 
 14.0.0:
 Fri Sep 19 00:26:44 PDT 2014; root:xnu-2782.1.97~2/RELEASE_X86_64 
 x86_64
 setenv SUBJECTS_DIR
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/subjects
 cd /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/fsfast/bin/fcseed-sess

 -s B113v1 -cfg mean.L_Insula.config
 freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0
 Wed Aug 12 11:03:33 EDT 2015
 Darwin phhp-chazgay-mb.ad.ufl.edu 14.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 
 14.0.0:
 Fri Sep 19 00:26:44 PDT 2014; root:xnu-2782.1.97~2/RELEASE_X86_64 
 x86_64
 setenv SUBJECTS_DIR
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/subjects
 cd /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/fsfast/bin/fcseed-sess

 -s B113v1 -cfg mean.L_Insula.config
 freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0

 mri_label2vol --seg
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/subjects/B113v1/mri/aparc+aseg.mgz
 --reg
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/register.dof6.dat
 --temp
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/template.nii.gz
 --fillthresh .5 --o
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/seg.nii.gz
 --pvf
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/pvf.nii.gz
 PVF
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/pvf.nii.gz
 Number of labels: 0
 Annot File:  (null)
 Template Volume:
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/template.nii.gz
 Outut Volume:
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/seg.nii.gz
 Registration File:
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/register.dof6.dat
 Fill Threshold: 0.5
 Label Vox Vol:  1
 ProjType:   (null)
 ProjTypeId: 0
 ProjStart:  0
 ProjStop:   0
 ProjDelta:  0.1
 Subject:  (null)
 Hemi: (null)
 UseNewASeg2Vol:  1
 DoLabelStatVol  0
 LabelCodeOffset  0
 setenv SUBJECTS_DIR
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/freesurfer/subjects
 $Id: mri_label2vol.c,v 1.34.2.5 2012/06/08 17:31:03 greve Exp $
 Template RAS-to-Vox: 
 -0.333   0.000   0.000   40.000;
 -0.000  -0.000  -0.333   40.000;
 -0.000   0.333  -0.000   19.000;
  0.000   0.000   0.000   1.000;
 Template Voxel Volume: 27
 nHits Thresh: 13.5
 Loading registration from
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/register.dof6.dat
 RegMat: 
  1.000  -0.011  -0.001   9.758;
 -0.002  -0.246   0.969  -27.653;
  0.011   0.969   0.246  -1.912;
  0.000   0.000   0.000   1.000;
 Label RAS-to-Vox: 
 -0.333   0.004   0.000   36.747;
 -0.004  -0.323  -0.082   40.637;
 -0.001  -0.082   0.323   9.782;
  0.000   0.000   0.000   1.000;
 ASeg2Vol: Building LUT
 ASeg2Vol: Sorting
 ASeg2Vol: Mapping
 ASeg2Vol: Reverse Map
 nmisses = 234 (0 filled)
 ASeg2Vol: done
 PVF
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/pvf.nii.gz
 Computing PVF 27
 mri_binarize --i
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/seg.nii.gz
 --o
 
 /Volumes/projects/painimaging/Bishop/FreeSurfer_R01/Project/B113v1/rest/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.55576/mask.nii.gz
 --match 19

 $Id: mri_binarize.c,v 1.26.2.1 2011/04/08 15:40:50 greve Exp $
 

Re: [Freesurfer] options for 7T images...

2015-08-12 Thread Andrea Grant
We use a typical 3D-MPRAGE sequence, and we collect a PD image to remove
the intensity inhomogeneities (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19233292).

Andrea

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Kyoko Fujimoto kyoncat@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Andrea,

 Which sequence do you use at 7T?

 -Kyoko

 On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Andrea Grant gran0...@umn.edu wrote:

 I would be interested in details on a 7T stream also!

 Thank you,

 Andrea

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 Andrea Grant
 Visual Neuroimaging Technologist
 Center for Magnetic Resonance Research, University of Minnesota
 2021 6th St. SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455, 612-626-4948
 gran0...@umn.edu
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 On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:

 sorry, had an old address for Kyoko


 On Sun, 9 Aug 2015, Bruce Fischl wrote:

 Hi Gonzalo

 Jon and Kyoko (both ccd) have put together a 7T stream, and should be
 able to help you out

 cheers
 Bruce
 On Sat, 8 Aug 2015, Gonzalo Rojas Costa wrote:

  Hi:

Must I use any recon-all option for 7T images ?...

Sincerely,


  Gonzalo Rojas Costa

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  Department of Radiology
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_volcluster

2015-08-12 Thread Morenikeji Adebayo
Hi there,

Just following up. Any advice would be much appreciated!

Thanks,
Keji

 On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Morenikeji Adebayo k...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 The command I submitted is:
 mri_volcluster --in merged_encode_Young_NEUT_hit_V_miss_n41.nii.gz --thmin 
 1.3 --minsizevox 5 --sign neg --sum adebayo_young_neut_p.05 —fsaverage
 
 How would I:
 
 1)  Specify the voxel size
 2)  Have the results output in MNI?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Keji
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 
 
 
 On 08/10/2015 10:47 AM, Morenikeji Adebayo wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I have a a couple of question related to the output generated by the 
 ‘mri_volcluster' command.
 
 1) It seems that the command automatically assumes that my voxels are 
 8 mm^3.  Is there a way to specify my voxel size when I run the command?
 It should use whatever the voxel size of the input is. Remember to 
 include a command line.
 
 2) The output  is given in Talairach coordinates. Is there a way to 
 specify the output in MNI coordinates?
 Can tell without your command line
 
 
 Thanks,
 Keji
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] Recon-all output missing .mgh extension

2015-08-12 Thread Ani Varjabedian

Hello Pablo,

Not all of the outputs end in .mgz.
If you look at the recon-all dev table it will show you all of the steps 
recon-all takes and what the input/output are:

https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/ReconAllDevTable

Your output looks fine to me, but you can always check it against the table.
Remember that this is the table for the developmental version, so it 
might not be identical to what your version of FS does. But you can 
always run recon-all with the -dontrun flag to get a list of all the 
commands.


-Ani


On 08/12/2015 07:30 AM, pablo najt wrote:

Dear FS experts
I recently came across the issue that my outputs from recon-all do not 
show .mgh extension. My original data was in analyse. I am aware of 
the potential problems but we unfortunately did not have nii or dicom 
available. Could this be the problem?
I am attaching a screenshot with the output in the surf folder and a 
copy of the recon-all for one of the subjects.

I would greatly appreciate your help on this.
Pablo


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Re: [Freesurfer] Regarding: Brainstem volumetric result

2015-08-12 Thread Eugenio Iglesias
Hi Sampada,
the two measurements are obtained through different methods. The aseg estimate 
is generally smaller because it doesn't include the whole midbrain, whereas the 
brainstem module does. Which one is more accurate depends on your anatomical 
definition of brainstem. Compared with the ASEG, the brainstem module has the 
advantage that it provides the parcellation into pons, medulla, midbrain and 
SCP.
Cheers,
Eugenio

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Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
www.jeiglesias.com
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Subject: [Freesurfer] Regarding: Brainstem volumetric result




Dear freesurfer experts, 


I successfully managed to install and run the freesurfer dev version6 for 
brainstem segmentation analysis. But, looking at the result of brainstem volume 
in brainstemSsVolumes.v10.txt, the whole brainstem volume is 14439.355323 and 
the brainstem volume by recon-all out asegfile is 13217.8 in the same 
participant. Will you please let me know why this disparity is there? And which 
one is more accurate? We plan to use the medullary volume for our study (here 
the medullary volume of the participant is 3184.900208 ) 


Thanks and regards, 


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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_volcluster

2015-08-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
It will produce results in the voxel size and space of 
merged_encode_Young_NEUT_hit_V_miss_n41.nii.gz
How was that file produced? What space is it in?


On 08/10/2015 01:50 PM, Morenikeji Adebayo wrote:
 Hi there,

 The command I submitted is:
 mri_volcluster --in merged_encode_Young_NEUT_hit_V_miss_n41.nii.gz 
 --thmin 1.3 --minsizevox 5 --sign neg --sum 
 adebayo_young_neut_p.05 —fsaverage

 How would I:

 1)  Specify the voxel size
 2)  Have the results output in MNI?


 Thanks,
 Keji


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 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:



 On 08/10/2015 10:47 AM, Morenikeji Adebayo wrote:
 Hi there,

 I have a a couple of question related to the output generated by the
 ‘mri_volcluster' command.

 1) It seems that the command automatically assumes that my voxels are
 8 mm^3.  Is there a way to specify my voxel size when I run the command?
 It should use whatever the voxel size of the input is. Remember to
 include a command line.

 2) The output  is given in Talairach coordinates. Is there a way to
 specify the output in MNI coordinates?
 Can tell without your command line


 Thanks,
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Re: [Freesurfer] ID-swapping freesurfer data?

2015-08-12 Thread Douglas N Greve


On 08/10/2015 02:35 PM, Nate Vack wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 2:45 PM Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 On 08/07/2015 03:11 PM, Nate Vack wrote:
  Thanks. Any other file types I should look for tags in?
 I think the surfaces have the subject name imbedded in them.


 Would there be a way to take it out?
I just looked, and they do not have the subject name in them.

  Out of curiosity, how do .mgz and nifti files differ?
 
 mgz files have a lot more header info


 Will converting to nifti and back strip important header info?
yes

 Thanks!
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Re: [Freesurfer] Unpacking mosaic dicoms

2015-08-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
Run
sudo chmod a+rx /Applications/freesurfer/bin/mri_probedicom

If it still does not work, then run

ls -l /Applications/freesurfer/bin/mri_probedicom


On 08/10/2015 01:32 PM, Eiran Vadim Harel wrote:
 Thanks Doug,
 I downloaded and rerun and changed the permissions but it still says:
 /Applications/freesurfer/bin/mri_probedicom: Permission denied.
 Any idea?
 Thanks,
 EIraqn


 On Monday, August 10, 2015 6:18 PM, Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:



 Hi Eiran, can you download the following two binaries and rerun? First
 make a backup copy of the ones that are there. Then copy the two below
 into $FREESURFER_HOME/bin (remove the .mac).

 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/mri_convert.mac
 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/mri_probedicom.mac


 On 08/10/2015 08:31 AM, Eiran Vadim Harel wrote:
  Hello Freesurfers,
  I am using freesurfer-Darwin-snowleopard-i686-stable-pub-v5.3.0.
  I tried unpacking mosaic functional dicoms taken with siemens prisma
  scanner using:
 
  dcmunpack -src
  /users/eiran/Desktop/BSMT/201_/Study20150415_184518_65000 -targ
  /Applications/freesurfer/BSMT_PROJECT/bsmt201 -run 11 bold nii f.nii
  -run 13 bold nii f.nii -run 14 bold nii f.nii -run 15 bold nii f.nii
  -run 16 bold nii f.nii -run 17 bold nii f.nii -run 18 bold nii f.nii
  -run 19 bold nii f.nii
 
  I get the following error message:
 
 
  WARNING: file
  
 /users/eiran/Desktop/BSMT/BSMT/201_JACOBY_TAMMY/Study20150415_184518_65000/20TA_Se11_fMRI_Open_Eyes/MR011001001.dcm
  

  does not contain a Siemens ASCII header
  has this file been anonymized?
  ERROR: cannot unpack mosiacs without ASCII header
 
  The files were not anonymized nor changed.
  Any ideas how to deal with it?
 
  Thanks,
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Re: [Freesurfer] Regarding: Brainstem volumetric result

2015-08-12 Thread Dr Sampada Sinha
Thankyou so much Eugenio! In that case I will go with the brainstem text
file, since I am interested in measureing the medullary volume.

Appreciate all your help!

Kind regards,

Sampada

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Eugenio Iglesias e.igles...@bcbl.eu
wrote:

 Hi Sampada,
 the two measurements are obtained through different methods. The aseg
 estimate is generally smaller because it doesn't include the whole
 midbrain, whereas the brainstem module does. Which one is more accurate
 depends on your anatomical definition of brainstem. Compared with the ASEG,
 the brainstem module has the advantage that it provides the parcellation
 into pons, medulla, midbrain and SCP.
 Cheers,
 Eugenio

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 Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
 www.jeiglesias.com
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 - Original Message -
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 To: Freesurfer support list freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 3:52:36 PM
 Subject: [Freesurfer] Regarding: Brainstem volumetric result




 Dear freesurfer experts,


 I successfully managed to install and run the freesurfer dev version6 for
 brainstem segmentation analysis. But, looking at the result of brainstem
 volume in brainstemSsVolumes.v10.txt, the whole brainstem volume is
 14439.355323 and the brainstem volume by recon-all out asegfile is
 13217.8 in the same participant. Will you please let me know why this
 disparity is there? And which one is more accurate? We plan to use the
 medullary volume for our study (here the medullary volume of the
 participant is 3184.900208 )


 Thanks and regards,


 Sampada








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Re: [Freesurfer] hello freesurfer developer~

2015-08-12 Thread A-reum Min
HI expert !

My name is Areum. I have some question to you.

1. I was wondering about the stats.dat file in stats_table (in Qdec
folder). Stats.dat file’s value mean that each area’s average (include
whole vertex) or each area’s average (only significant vertex)?



2. Can I get whole vertex value or significant vertex value? Because, I
want to compare two groups correlation using SPSS. In addition, I want to
compare thickness, volume and surface area correlation within the one group
using SPSS.



3. I currently use the default cluster size(significant area threshold is
0mm^2). So, I want to control cluster size larger than default cluster
size. How can I control the cluster size?



plz reply to me

2015-08-11 11:06 GMT+09:00 A-reum Min naniy...@gmail.com:

 HI expert !

 My name is Areum. I have some question to you.

 1. Does FreeSurfer offer a effect size? if that offer, how can i use
 effect size?



 2. I was wondering about the stats.dat file in stats_table (in Qdec
 folder).

 Stats.dat file’s value mean that each area’s average (include whole
 vertex) or each

 area’s average (only significant vertex)?



 3. Can I get whole vertex value or significant vertex value? Because, I
 want to

 compare two groups correlation using SPSS. In addition, I want to compare

 thickness, volume and surface area correlation within the one group using
 SPSS.



 4. I currently use the default cluster size(significant area threshold is
 0mm^2). So, I

 want to control cluster size larger than default cluster size. How can I
 control the

 cluster size?



 5. In FreeSurfer manual, GLM and Qdec have a same results. But when I use
 the

 both(GLM, Qdec) group analysis program results are not same. What is
 differences

 between two analysis program? How can I get same result while GLM and Qdec?



 6. How can I get surface area and volume using GLM(group analysis program)?


 plz reply to me

 2015-08-10 21:35 GMT+09:00 A-reum Min naniy...@gmail.com:

 Hello developer~

 I have some questions to  you.



 1. Does FreeSurfer offer a effect size? if that offer, how can i use
 effect size?



 2. I was wondering about the stats.dat file in stats_table (in Qdec
 folder).

 Stats.dat file’s value mean that each area’s average (include whole
 vertex) or each

 area’s average (only significant vertex)?



 3. Can I get whole vertex value or significant vertex value? Because, I
 want to

 compare two groups correlation using SPSS. In addition, I want to
 compare

 thickness, volume and surface area correlation within the one group
 using SPSS.



 4. I currently use the default cluster size(significant area threshold is
 0mm^2). So, I

 want to control cluster size larger than default cluster size. How can I
 control the

 cluster size?



 5. In FreeSurfer manual, GLM and Qdec have a same results. But when I use
 the

 both(GLM, Qdec) group analysis program results are not same. What is
 differences

 between two analysis program? How can I get same result while GLM and
 Qdec?



 6. How can I get surface area and volume using GLM(group analysis
 program)?


 thanks for your help

 2015-07-27 14:28 GMT+09:00 A-reum Min naniy...@gmail.com:

 Hello bruce

 I solve this problem(12.png)

 Thank you

 2015-07-27 13:03 GMT+09:00 dgw dgwake...@gmail.com:

 Hi A-reum,

 I think you may be able to get a faster response if you include some
 details about your setup: I would start with the following:

 http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
 and run bugr.

 hth
 D

 On 7/26/15 5:17 PM, A-reum Min wrote:
  Hi, Bruce
 
  When i use a Qdec, this message(12.png) show up..
  How can i solve this problem?
 
  2015-07-23 22:57 GMT+09:00 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:
 
  1. No, each subject has a different #. You can map to fsaverage
  (this is what -qcache does if you specify it for recon-all), then
  they will have the same #.
 
  2. What result data do you mean?
 
  3. Yes, although I'll leave the details to Doug (since I don't
  remember how his cluster code works).
 
  4. The significance doesn't depend on the cluster size unless you
 do
  multiple comparison corrections (and even then only if you do
 them a
  certain way)
 
  cheers
  Bruce
 
 
  On Thu, 23 Jul 2015, A-reum Min wrote:
 
  HELLO developer
  I have some question to you..
 
  1. Every patient is given to the same number of vertex?
 
  2. When i use a Qdec, How can I get the subject result
 data?
 
  3. Could i get the significant vertex’s number, extent of
 the
  significant area and gray matter volume?
 
  4. Is it significant blue color which how many connected
  vertex?
 
 
  2015-05-29 2:03 GMT+09:00 A-reum Min naniy...@gmail.com
  mailto:naniy...@gmail.com:
 hello developer~
  reconstruction is well done, so i'm doing on 'qdec' step..
  

[Freesurfer] Regarding: Brainstem volumetric result

2015-08-12 Thread Dr Sampada Sinha
Dear freesurfer experts,

I successfully managed to install and run the freesurfer dev version6 for
brainstem segmentation analysis. But, looking at the result of brainstem
volume in brainstemSsVolumes.v10.txt, the whole brainstem volume is
14439.355323 and the brainstem volume by recon-all out asegfile is 13217.8
in the same participant. Will you  please let me know why this disparity is
there? And which one is more accurate? We plan to use the medullary volume
for our study (here the medullary volume of the participant is 3184.900208 )

Thanks and regards,

Sampada







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Re: [Freesurfer] Repost: Make liberal ROI masks

2015-08-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
You'll need to merge the WM parcellation labels with those of their 
matching GM parcellations. We do not have explicit software to do this. 
You can do it in matlab, something like

a = MRIread('aparc.a2009s+aseg_liberal.mgz);
ind = find(a.vol == 3030); % 3030 =  wm-lh-superiortemporal from 
FreeSurferColorLUT.txt
a.vol(ind) = 1030; % 1030 =  ctx-lh-superiortemporal

Do the rest of the parcellations in the same way, then

MRIwrite(a,'aparc.a2009s+aseg_liberal2.mgz');


On 08/10/2015 01:29 PM, Martin Hebart wrote:
 Dear all,

 In an earlier post, I was asking for help implementing dilated ROIs.

 I was using Doug's suggestion
 mri_aparc2aseg --subject 01 --a2009s --labelwm --wmparc-dmax 2 --o 
 aparc.a2009s+aseg_liberal.mgz

 followed by
 mri_label2vol --seg aparc.a2009s+aseg_liberal.mgz --regheader orig.mgz 
 --o rois.nii --temp sub.nii --subject 01

 However, the written images are very similar to the original undilated 
 ROIs, so I guess this has to do with the fact that they labels within 
 white matter are still classified as white matter.

 My question: How can I write the ROIs from the dilated labels?

 Thanks!
 Martin

 P.S.: If this all is very difficult or impossible, I would be happy if 
 I could just write out a nifti for each label in the annotation file 
 which for each voxel reflects the probability of that label (i.e. not 
 binary masks, but probabilistic masks). Then I could do this process 
 manually.





 2015-07-15 18:10 GMT+02:00 Martin Hebart martin.heb...@gmail.com 
 mailto:martin.heb...@gmail.com:

 Dear Thomas and Doug,

 Thanks a lot for your replies, I believe you fully answered my
 question.

 @Thomas: The reason I would like to dilate masks into white matter
 is that although the masks are quite accurate for structural
 volumes, the functional data doesn't perfectly fit the structural
 (even when using a fieldmap). I don't want to miss any grey matter
 voxels that might carry information, while including some white
 matter is - for the purpose of my task - not detrimental.

 Thanks again, I will try to implement Doug's suggestion!

 Martin



 2015-07-15 15:12 GMT+02:00 Thomas Yeo ytho...@csail.mit.edu
 mailto:ytho...@csail.mit.edu:

 Hi Martin,

 I am a little confused. Can you explain a little more about
 what you
 need? Do you want the freesurfer cortical ROIs dilated into the
 surrounding regions like white matter and CSF or something? If so,
 then Doug's suggestion sounds reasonable.

 In the case of my parcellation, I ran the MNI152 template through
 recon-all, which unfortunately resulted in an overly conservative
 estimate of gray matter (i.e., the tight mask in
 
 https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/CorticalParcellation_Yeo2011).
 Therefore I went through a rather complicated way of
 generating the
 liberal mask by registering the recon-all of 1000 subjects to MNI
 space.

 Since you appear to be working on an individual subject, the
 freesurfer estimate of the cortical ROIs is likely to be quite
 accurate. Why might you want to dilate them into CSF or white
 matter?

 Regards,
 Thomas

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:
  There is not an easy way to do that, though Thomas might
 want to chime
  in. I would probably use the code that generates the wmparc
  (mri_aparc2aseg --labelwm) to create labels in the adjacent
 WM out to a
  few mm (--wmparc-dmax 2), then merge the WM labels with the
 GM labels
 
  On 07/14/2015 08:18 AM, Martin Hebart wrote:
  Dear Freesurfer users,
 
  I would be really happy if someone could help me out on the
 issue I
  mentioned below.
 
  What I want to do is create non-overlapping anatomical ROI
 masks that
  are not restricted to grey matter only.
 
  Thanks a lot in advance!
  Martin
 
  -
 
  Dear all,
 
  I've created non-overlapping ROI masks using
 
  mri_label2vol --seg aparc.a2009s+aseg.mgz --regheader
 orig.mgz --o
  rois.nii --temp sub.nii --subject 01
 
  Now these ROI masks are actually quite conservative
 concerning grey
  matter vs. other structures, i.e. they are only on the grey
 matter.
  I've seen more liberal masks e.g. here:
 
 https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/CorticalParcellation_Yeo2011
 
  I would like to create similarly liberal non-overlapping
 ROI masks for
  all ROIs in the voxel size defined by the image in --temp, but
   

Re: [Freesurfer] uploading a surface in freeview

2015-08-12 Thread car...@van-vlodrop.de


Hi Bruce,



I send you a screenshot of my command field with my command line and the following error message.

Thank you very much for your help.

Carina


Gesendet:Dienstag, 11. August 2015 um 16:54 Uhr
Von:Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
An:Freesurfer support list freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Betreff:Re: [Freesurfer] uploading a surface in freeview

Hi Carina you need to send us your full command line and screen output otherwise we dont have enough information to help you. cheers Bruce On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, car...@van-vlodrop.de wrote:  Hi Bruce,  Thank you for your answer.  When I type the path to the surface with the beginning and endling you told  me, freeview opens with the error message failed to load surface and in  the command field it says MRISread failed.  Do you have any idea of how it is possible to avoid this error?Best regards, Carina   Gesendet:Sonntag, 09. August 2015 um 16:33 Uhr Von:Bruce Fischl  An:Freesurfer support list  Betreff:Re: [Freesurfer] uploading a  surface in freeview  Hi Carina it should be something like: freeview -f  /lh.inflated:overlay=mc-z.abs.2.sig.cluster.mgh assuming  mc-z.abs.2.sig.cluster.mgh is in your current directory cheers Bruce On Sun,  9 Aug 2015, car...@van-vlodrop.de wrote:  Hi Lilla,  I still have the  problem to display my surface created by the Monte Carlo  analysis.  There  are several files generated and I think that  mc-z.abs.2.sig.cluster.mgh  should be the correct one to show the overlay  in freeview.  Could you  please tell me which complete command I have to type in after  opening  freesurfer?Thank you very much.  Best regards, CarinaGesendet:Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2014 um 14:01 Uhr Von:Lilla Zollei   An:Freesurfer support list  Betreff:Re: [Freesurfer] uploading a   surface in freeview  Hi Carina, You can use the -f option (instead of -v  used for volumes) when  you are calling freeview from the commandline in  order to display a surface  and then append :overlay=overlay_filename after  the filename to identify the  overlay that you want to use. You will need  to decide which hemi and which  surface you want to use and type the full  path to it and the same with the  overlay. Lilla On Wed, 16 Jul 2014,  car...@van-vlodrop.de wrote:  Dear  Freesurfer experts,  I have already  run a Monte Carlo Simulation and I  would like to upload the results in  freeview. The simulation created a file  ending with .mgh and the tutorial  identifies it to be the overlay. Do I have  to upload a surface first and  afterwards the overlay? How can I upload a  surface and which is the right  one?Yours sincerely,  Carina   ___ Freesurfer mailing list   Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu   https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information   in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If   you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains   patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at   http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in   error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender   and properly dispose of the e-mail.   ___ Freesurfer mailing list  Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu  https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information  in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If  you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains  patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at  http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in  error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender  and properly dispose of the e-mail.  ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.


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