Re: [Freesurfer] mris_average_surface fails

2021-04-06 Thread バキット・ムダシル
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I Think I have a permission. I ran chmod -R u+rwX to make sure, but the error 
was the same. Can you confirm from below please?

\mudathirbakhit$ ls -l $FREESURFER_HOME/
total 568
drwxr-xr-x   39 mudathirbakhit  admin   1248 Mar 18 20:24 6.0.0
-rwxr-xr-x1 mudathirbakhit  wheel   3240 Aug 12  2020 ASegStatsLUT.txt
-rwxr-xr-x1 mudathirbakhit  wheel  47514 Aug 12  2020 DefectLUT.txt
-rwxr-xr-x@   1 mudathirbakhit  wheel  89181 Aug 12  2020 FreeSurferColorLUT.txt
-rwxr-xr-x1 mudathirbakhit  wheel  18152 Aug 12  2020 FreeSurferEnv.csh
-rwxr-xr-x1 mudathirbakhit  wheel  18223 Aug 12  2020 FreeSurferEnv.sh
drwxrwxr-x@   3 mudathirbakhit  wheel 96 Mar 16 13:11 Freeview.app
drwxr-xr-x3 mudathirbakhit  wheel 96 Mar 17 10:06 Freeview_backup.app
-rwxr-xr-x@   1 mudathirbakhit  wheel  28381 Aug 12  2020 SegmentNoLUT.txt
-rwxr-xr-x1 mudathirbakhit  wheel   1358 Aug 12  2020 SetUpFreeSurfer.csh
-rwxr-xr-x1 mudathirbakhit  wheel   1350 Aug 12  2020 SetUpFreeSurfer.sh
-rwxr-xr-x@   1 mudathirbakhit  wheel   4104 Aug 12  2020 
Simple_surface_labels2009.txt
-rwxr-xr-x1 mudathirbakhit  wheel  25476 Aug 12  2020 WMParcStatsLUT.txt
-rw-r--r--@   1 mudathirbakhit  staff   2718 Apr  1 14:13 aparc+aseg.txt
drwxr-xr-x  126 mudathirbakhit  wheel   4032 Apr  7 07:22 average
drwxr-xr-x  766 mudathirbakhit  wheel  24512 Mar 17 10:06 bin
-rwxr-xr-x1 mudathirbakhit  wheel 47 Aug 12  2020 build-stamp.txt
drwxr-xr-x3 mudathirbakhit  wheel 96 Mar 17 19:35 color
drwxr-xr-x3 mudathirbakhit  wheel 96 Aug 12  2020 diffusion
drwxr-xr-x   37 mudathirbakhit  wheel   1184 Aug 12  2020 docs
drwxr-xr-x3 mudathirbakhit  wheel 96 Aug 12  2020 etc
drwxr-xr-x5 mudathirbakhit  wheel160 Aug 12  2020 fsafd
drwxr-xr-x6 mudathirbakhit  wheel192 Apr  7 07:22 fsfast
drwxr-xr-x6 mudathirbakhit  wheel192 Apr  7 07:22 lib
-rw-r--r--@   1 mudathirbakhit  wheel 55 Feb 17 09:40 license.txt
drwxr-xr-x  185 mudathirbakhit  wheel   5920 Apr  7 07:22 matlab
drwxr-xr-x   11 mudathirbakhit  wheel352 Apr  7 07:22 mni
-rw-r--r--@   1 mudathirbakhit  staff641 Apr  6 16:13 par.txt
drwxr-xr-x8 mudathirbakhit  wheel256 Apr  7 07:22 python
drwxr-xr-x3 mudathirbakhit  wheel 96 Aug 12  2020 sessions
-rwxr-xr-x1 mudathirbakhit  wheel134 Aug 12  2020 sources.csh
-rwxr-xr-x1 mudathirbakhit  wheel132 Aug 12  2020 sources.sh
drwxr-xr-x+  42 mudathirbakhit  wheel   1344 Apr  7 09:37 subjects
-rwxr-xr-x1 mudathirbakhit  wheel   1681 Aug 12  2020 tkmeditParcColorsCMA
drwxr-xr-x   38 mudathirbakhit  wheel   1216 Apr  7 07:22 trctrain
-rwxr-xr-x1 mudathirbakhit  wheel972 Aug 12  2020 uninstall.sh

> On Apr 6, 2021, at 22:30, Douglas N. Greve  wrote:
> 
> Do you have write permissions to
> 
> /Applications/freesurfer/subjects
> 
> Of not on a mac
> 
> On 4/6/2021 6:39 AM, バキット・ムダシル wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> I am trying to make an average subject but when the process reaches 
>> mris_average_surface it fails as seen below.
>> My command was as follow:
>> make_average_subject --out avgsubject --subjects spl_01 spl_02 spl_03 spl_04 
>> spl_05 spl_06 spl_07 spl_08 spl_09 spl_10
>> Can you please guide me to solve this issue.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Mudathir
>> 
>> ###
>> #@# Making average lh.white surface -
>> Tue Apr  6 19:23:39 JST 2021
>> /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/avgsubject
>> mris_make_average_surface -i 7 -o white -sdir-out 
>> /Applications/freesurfer/subjects lh white sphere.reg avgsubject spl_01 
>> spl_02 spl_03 spl_04 spl_05 spl_06 spl_07 spl_08 spl_09 spl_10
>> reading vertex positions from white...
>> ---
>> hemi= lh
>> avg_surf_name   = white
>> canon_surf_name = sphere.reg
>> out_sname   = avgsubject
>> xform   = talairach.xfm
>> ---
>> 
>> 
>> Is a directory
>> Is a directory
>> ERROR: creating directory /
>> ERROR: creating directory /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/avgsubject/surf
>> mris_average_surface failed
>> ERROR: make_average_surface
>> #
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach Failed: Distorted T1

2021-04-06 Thread Harkey, Thomas Jarrott
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Douglas,
Thanks again. Is this value in the brainstem.dat file accurate or is it subject 
to the same limitation in that the value will depend on the field of view of 
volume acquisition?
In other words, is it valid to add this number to the brain to obtain total 
brain volume?
Kind regards,
Thomas Harkey
UAMS College of Medicine M3

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Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 6:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach Failed: Distorted T1


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Douglas,
Thank you for your help. Another question. The FreeSurfer wiki states that for 
version 5.2 and later, the brainstem is not included in the global measures of 
volume because the amount of brainstem changes depending upon the field of view 
of the volume acquisition.
We are interested in the obtaining the volume of the entire brain using the 
BrainVolNotVent value. Does this mean that BrainVolNotVent does not include the 
brainstem and therefore underestimates total brain volume? Is there a way to 
correct for this?
Kind regards,
Thomas Harkey
UAMS College of Medicine M3


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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 9:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach Failed: Distorted T1

That is an axial scan that only covers 25mm of the brain inferior-superior. 
This is not whole brain coverage, which is causing the problem

On 3/25/2021 9:07 PM, Harkey, Thomas Jarrott wrote:

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Douglas,
Thank you for your help. I have pasted the result below.

Volume information for 2020-24axialScalarvolumeall/mri/orig/001.mgz
  type: MGH
dimensions: 384 x 384 x 25
   voxel sizes: 0.598958, 0.598958, 1.00
  type: SHORT (4)
   fov: 230.000
   dof: 1
xstart: -115.0, xend: 115.0
ystart: -115.0, yend: 115.0
zstart: -12.5, zend: 12.5
TR: 0.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle: 0.00 
degrees
   nframes: 1
   PhEncDir: UNKNOWN
   FieldStrength: 0.00
ras xform present
xform info: x_r =  -0.9841, y_r =  -0.0087, z_r =  -0.1777, c_r =15.3722
  : x_a =   0.0272, y_a =  -0.9944, z_a =  -0.1022, c_a =14.0701
  : x_s =  -0.1758, y_s =  -0.1054, z_s =   0.9788, c_s =   -75.3479

talairach xfm :
Orientation   : LPS
Primary Slice Direction: axial

voxel to ras transform:
   -0.5894  -0.0052  -0.1777   131.7540
0.0163  -0.5956  -0.1022   126.5760
   -0.1053  -0.0631   0.9788   -55.2497
0.   0.   0. 1.

voxel-to-ras determinant 0.358751

ras to voxel transform:
   -1.6429   0.0454  -0.2935   194.5030
   -0.0144  -1.6602  -0.1759   202.3262
   -0.1777  -0.1022   0.978890.4171
0.   0.   0. 1.

Kindly,
Thomas Harkey
UAMS College of Medicine class of 2022

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 on behalf of Douglas N. Greve 

Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 9:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach Failed: Distorted T1

It looks like something is wrong with your input. For starters, the voxel size 
looks huge. Run
mri_info subject/mri/orig/001.mgz
and send the result

On 3/23/2021 10:54 PM, Harkey, Thomas Jarrott wrote:

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Hello,

My name is Thomas Harkey and I am conducting research using FreeSurfer. After 
running recon-all on this patient, the Talairach failed according to the .log 
file. No stats were calculated but loading the orig.mgz file into FreeView 
looks like this (see image attached). This DICOM file was successfully uploaded 
into other programs.

How can I fix this error?

Kind regards,

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University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences

College of Medicine, Class of 2022
501-553-6318

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Re: [Freesurfer] make_average_subject error

2021-04-06 Thread Jordan Mullins
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The patch (see text below) only directed me to replace a file in the
freesurfer/gcc/lib directory, which I did. Do I also need to replace the
make_average_subject and mri_aparc2aseg files in my freesurfer bin?

*To patch the existing 6.0.0 release you may need administrator privileges
to do the following:*

*1) Remove your existing Freeview.app application bundle by sending it to
the trash (and then emtying the trash).*
*   You can also do this from the terminal by cd'ing to the top level
./freesurfer subdirectory and then doing,*
*   "rm -rf Freeview.app". *

*2) Copy the new Freeview.app.zip to where your old Freeview.app was
located aund uncompress it (so it becomes*
*   the replacement Freeview.app in your current freesrufer installation).*

*3) Remove ./freesurfer/lib/gcc/lib/libgomp.1.dylib from your existing
freesurfer installation.*

*4) Copy the ./freesurfer/lib/gcc/lib/libgomp.1.dylib from the patch
archive to /freesurfer/lib/gcc/lib in your current*
*   freesurfer installtion.*

*5) Try running the Freeview.app and loading a volume with it.*

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 6:43 AM Douglas N. Greve 
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> It looks like you are still using the old make_average_subject as the time
> stamp is from Jan 19, 2017 (same for mri_aparc2aseg). Can you confirm that
> those are really the patches?
>
> On 3/29/2021 12:52 PM, Jordan Mullins wrote:
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> Just following up on this. Thanks!
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> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 6:12 PM Jordan Mullins <
> jordan.mull...@email.ucr.edu> wrote:
>
>> Yes! Results attached.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 5:54 PM Douglas N. Greve 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Can you run
>>> ls -l $FREESURFER_HOME/bin/mri_aparc2aseg
>>> $FREESURFER_HOME/bin/make_average_subject
>>> and send the result?
>>>
>>> Also, the result of
>>> which mri_aparc2aseg
>>> which make_average_subject
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/17/2021 8:36 PM, Jordan Mullins wrote:
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>>> Yes, I had seen that report and had downloaded the patch, but still got
>>> the same error. Are there any other steps I can take?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 2:59 PM Douglas N. Greve 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This problem is documented (along with a fix) on our release notes
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 Yes, I used the make_average_subject command. I've attached a text file
 below of the command line and terminal output from my attempt to average
 two subjects. I get the same error when I try this with the full sample.

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> What command are you using? make_average_subject? Send the command
> line and terminal output
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> I am trying to create an average subject from a set of subjects, but
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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer Website Ports

2021-04-06 Thread fsbuild
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Hello Hannah,
While the freesurfer group does not control the port(s) numbers exposed on the 
public facing web servers that host the freesurfer web pages, I’ve been told by 
IT that you should not need to access the ftp port and you should only need to 
setup the VPN to allow outgoing connections to port 443 on 
surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 

- R.

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the manual pages) while behindour closed system.On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 
9:29 AM Douglas N. Greve dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu wrote:why do you need 
to connect to the web site? that is not needed to run FSOn 4/5/2021 3:20 PM, 
Swearingen, Hannah 
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Access Control List for an isolated VLAN in which my center's neuroimaging 
computing workstations will be connected to our hospital's network for data 
back-up.We want to be able to connect to Freesurfer'swebsite while 
connected to the VLAN, and we need to supply which ports the website accesses. 
I used nmap to scan and see which ports are open, and I found this:PORT 
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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all transformations: raw nii to T1.mgz

2021-04-06 Thread Fischl, Bruce
Hi Noam

You can always use the -rl  switch in mri_convert (rl == "reslice 
like"). So for example

mri_convert -rl rawavg.mgz orig.mgz orig_back_to_raw.mgz

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Subject: [Freesurfer] recon-all transformations: raw nii to T1.mgz

Hello,
I was running recon-all on a raw T1 image with the following properties:
dimensions: 126 x 144 x 88
voxel sizes: 1.78, 1.78, 1.78
Orientation: PSL

Besides the raw T1, I have other nii files with the same dimensions and 
orientation that I want to visualize on top of the recon-all output T1.mgz.
How can I run the same transformations (and reslicing) that were used in 
recon-all (from my raw nii file to T1.mgz) on the other nii files?

Thanks!
Noam
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[Freesurfer] recon-all transformations: raw nii to T1.mgz

2021-04-06 Thread Peled, Noam
Hello,
I was running recon-all on a raw T1 image with the following properties:
dimensions: 126 x 144 x 88
voxel sizes: 1.78, 1.78, 1.78
Orientation: PSL

Besides the raw T1, I have other nii files with the same dimensions and 
orientation that I want to visualize on top of the recon-all output T1.mgz.
How can I run the same transformations (and reslicing) that were used in 
recon-all (from my raw nii file to T1.mgz) on the other nii files?

Thanks!
Noam
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Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis

2021-04-06 Thread Fischl, Bruce
Hi Ornaith

The mapping uses the vertex index. That is, the vertex index is stored in the 
flatmap, so you should always be able to recover it, then look up the location 
of that vertex on any other surface (of the same hemisphere/subject)

Cheers
Bruce

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Hello FreeSurfer developers,

Thanks a lot for your help.  I have initialised the pialxyz the way you 
suggested and made the flatmap in MatLab using the read_patch function 
(screenshots attached).  I still don't understand how to convert between the 
two.  For example how to see what point (x,y,z) on the pial surface corresponds 
to what (x,y) point on the flatmap.

Thanks a lot for your help.

Kind Regards,
Ornaith



On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 15:58, Douglas N. Greve 
mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:

On 3/8/2021 11:38 AM, Ornaith O Reilly wrote:

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Hello Freesurfer developers,

I am new to Freesurfer and I'm hoping that someone can help me.

My goal is to be able to visualise electrodes contacts that are on lying on the 
cortical surface on a flat map and a spherical map.

I've run recon-all and created the flatmap.

I'm using Matlab to achieve this and I've loaded the information with the lines

lhsphere = 
fs_read_surf('/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.sphere');
lhflatpatch=fs_read_patch('/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.full.flat.patch.3D');

1. I want to be able to access the coordinates and show the electrons on the 
flat map/ sphere and I was wondering how to do this?  I understand that the 
vertex ID number is what relates the coordinates in the original image to these 
surfaces.  I am wondering how to access the vertex ID numbers ?  At the moment 
I think that I only have access to the vertex coordinates and the vertex faces.
The easiest way to do this is probably to map the white or pial xyz into an mgz 
file using mri_surf2surf, eg
mri_surf2surf  --hemi lh   --sval-xyz white --tval lh.white.xyz.mgz   --s 
yoursubject
You can then get the xyz of a given vertex by reading
whitexyz = MRIread('lh.white.xyz.mgz');



2. Additionally, I was wondering if there is a way to display the surface 
images through Matlab?  What would be the best way to show the surface with the 
electrons overlaid on it?
I know there are ways, but I don't know their details


The version of Freesurfer and the platform that I'm using is outlined below:
1) FreeSurfer version: freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.1.1-20200811-8b40551
2) Platform: macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (17G7024)

I really appreciate any help with this as I'm really stuck.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Kind Regards,
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Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis

2021-04-06 Thread Ornaith O Reilly
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Hello FreeSurfer developers,

Thanks a lot for your help.  I have initialised the pialxyz the way you
suggested and made the flatmap in MatLab using the read_patch function
(screenshots attached).  I still don't understand how to convert between
the two.  For example how to see what point (x,y,z) on the pial surface
corresponds to what (x,y) point on the flatmap.

Thanks a lot for your help.

Kind Regards,
Ornaith




On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 15:58, Douglas N. Greve 
wrote:

>
>
> On 3/8/2021 11:38 AM, Ornaith O Reilly wrote:
>
> External Email - Use Caution
> Hello Freesurfer developers,
>
> I am new to Freesurfer and I'm hoping that someone can help me.
>
> My goal is to be able to visualise electrodes contacts that are on lying
> on the cortical surface on a flat map and a spherical map.
>
> I've run recon-all and created the flatmap.
>
> I'm using Matlab to achieve this and I've loaded the information with the
> lines
>
> lhsphere = fs_read_surf(
> '/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.sphere');
> lhflatpatch=fs_read_patch(
> '/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.full.flat.patch.3D'
> );
>
> 1. I want to be able to access the coordinates and show the electrons on
> the flat map/ sphere and I was wondering how to do this?  I understand that
> the vertex ID number is what relates the coordinates in the original image
> to these surfaces.  I am wondering how to access the vertex ID numbers ?
> At the moment I think that I only have access to the vertex coordinates and
> the vertex faces.
>
> The easiest way to do this is probably to map the white or pial xyz into
> an mgz file using mri_surf2surf, eg
> mri_surf2surf  --hemi lh   --sval-xyz white --tval lh.white.xyz.mgz   --s
> yoursubject
> You can then get the xyz of a given vertex by reading
> whitexyz = MRIread('lh.white.xyz.mgz');
>
>
> 2. Additionally, I was wondering if there is a way to display the surface
> images through Matlab?  What would be the best way to show the surface with
> the electrons overlaid on it?
>
> I know there are ways, but I don't know their details
>
>
> The version of Freesurfer and the platform that I'm using is outlined
> below:
> 1) FreeSurfer version: freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.1.1-20200811-8b40551
> 2) Platform: macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (17G7024)
>
> I really appreciate any help with this as I'm really stuck.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Ornaith O'Reilly
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Re: [Freesurfer] "ERROR: crypt() returned null with 4-line file"

2021-04-06 Thread Hoopes, Andrew
Thanks for the details. We’ll look into it a bit and get back to you.
Andrew

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 on behalf of Cook, Philip 

Date: Monday, April 5, 2021 at 11:42 AM
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
Subject: [Freesurfer] "ERROR: crypt() returned null with 4-line file"

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Dear FreeSurfer developers,

I have also encountered the error that Katja Zoner reported in

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We work on different servers within the same institution and have been in 
contact with our administrators, we are sure at this point that the error is 
caused by FIPS 140 compliance on some of our systems. It is unrelated to 
Singularity. The crypt() function, as called in freesurfer/utils/chklc.cpp, 
returns NULL with errno == EPERM on machines booted in FIPS mode. I believe 
these users have encountered the same problem

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As one of the above users noted, certain institutions (such as the Veterans 
Administration) require FIPS mode, as do studies using sensitive data. Our 
administrators have agreed to provide some "insecure" machines to run 
FreeSurfer binaries and containers for the time being, but we're concerned 
about the sustainability of this longer term.

I think the issue could be resolved by using a FIPS-compliant algorithm in the 
call to crypt(). For example, I've tested crypt() with the SHA-512 algorithm in 
FIPS mode, and this works

  crypt_gkey = crypt(gkey, "$6$FS");

but this would require the license file to contain an SHA-512 encrypted gkey in 
addition to the DES one that currently exists.

Alternatively, we can check if errno == EPERM after the call to crypt(), and 
bypass the encryption check in that case.

I understand that these solutions are non-trivial and could raise backwards 
compatibility or license compliance issues. Unfortunately, I've not been able 
to find any other workaround.

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Re: [Freesurfer] [External] Re: "ERROR: crypt() returned null with 4-line file" when running via Singularity

2021-04-06 Thread Hoopes, Andrew
Hi Katja,

Okay good to know. I will follow up off-list.

Best,
Andrew

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Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 1:24 PM
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Hi Andrew,

After speaking with our compute cluster service providers, it seems like this 
error is due to FIPS being enabled on the cluster. Are there any existing 
solutions to FIPS conflicts with FreeSurfer?

Thanks!
Katja

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Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 4:19 PM
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Subject: [External] Re: [Freesurfer] "ERROR: crypt() returned null with 4-line 
file" when running via Singularity


Hi Katja,



I wonder if this is related to possible security settings. I can’t replicate 
this, but can you send your license file so that we can narrow down the 
possibilities? You can send it directly to my email, off-list.



Best

Andrew



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Date: Monday, March 22, 2021 at 2:40 PM
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
Subject: [Freesurfer] "ERROR: crypt() returned null with 4-line file" when 
running via Singularity

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Hi all,



I am trying to run a single subject through FreeSurfer 7.1.1 via Singularity 
image (pulled from the FreeSurfer DockerHub) like this:

export SINGULARITYENV_FS_LICENSE=/mnt/22Q/images/license.txt

export SINGULARITYENV_SUBJECTS_DIR=/mnt/22Q/data/freesurfer



singularity exec --cleanenv -B /project/bbl_projects/22Q/:/mnt/22Q \

/project/bbl_projects/22Q/images/freesurfer_7.1.1.sif \

recon-all -s sub-17867 -i 
/mnt/22Q/data/bids_directory/sub-17867/ses-22Q1/anat/sub-17867_ses-22Q1_T1w.nii.gz
 -all

But it fails quickly with error message:

ERROR: crypt() returned null with 4-line file

Do you know what might be causing this error message? How can I address this?

Additional info:

  1.  FreeSurfer version: freesurfer-linux-centos6_x86_64-7.1.1-20200723-8b40551
  2.  uname -a: Linux singularity01 3.10.0-1127.8.2.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue May 
12 16:57:42 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
  3.  recon-all.log: see attached

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I am trying to run a single subject through FreeSurfer 7.1.1 via Singularity 
image like this: export SINGULARITYENV_FS_LICENSE=/mnt/22Q/images/license.txt 
export SINGULARITYENV_SUBJECTS_DIR=/mnt/22...

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Thank you for any assistance!

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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_gtmpvc error Checking tissue type ERROR: CheckSegTissueType() tissue type for seg

2021-04-06 Thread Bahar Hazal Yalçınkaya
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Thank you Douglas, I tried quickly via correcting my gtmseg.ctab output
with standardized for gtmseg only for tissue types, it runs without error,
I will create a new look up table and try further.

Thanks again,
Kind regards.

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 3:53 PM Douglas N. Greve 
wrote:

> gtmseg will not give an error, but the color table that gtmseg outputs
> will not be right and needs to be fixed.
>
> On 4/6/2021 9:41 AM, Bahar Hazal Yalçınkaya wrote:
>
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> Thanks for response, color table and annotations are there "--ctx-annot
> Schaefer2018_400Parcels_7Networks_order.annot 1000 2000 --ctab
> Schaefer2018_400Parcels_7Networks_order_LUT.txt", gtmseg did not gave an
> error, you can see at attachments. (Also I can see 258 Head segmentation in 
> *gtmseg.ctab
> *file) also mri_coreg is working well (see also attachments). The problem
> is the "*mri_gtmpvc*" command where it fails while checking tissue types
> more precisely it complains about Head segmentation.
>
> I run with standard options. I checked everything I can think of, each
> file and image seems to be similar but still could not find a proper
> solution. Is there anything specific I need to check?
> Thanks in advance,
> Kind regards
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 3:26 PM Douglas N. Greve 
> wrote:
>
>> You will need to create a new color table. This is not hard, but not easy
>> either. First, there should be a color table already there. I'm not sure
>> what that will be like; it might have your segments in it, it might not. It
>> might be easier to run gtmseg with the standard options and look at the
>> color table, then try to replicate it with your segmentation
>>
>> On 4/5/2021 6:43 AM, Bahar Hazal Yalçınkaya wrote:
>>
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>>
>> I am trying to follow *PetSurfer* (*MailScanner has detected a possible
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>> to apply PVC to Pet images.
>> Default pipeline is working however, whenever i try to use another atlas,
>> Schaefer parcellation, mri_gtmpvc command I get following error:
>>
>> WARNING: LTAconcat(): inverting LTA 1 to match geometry
>>
>> Replacing 18
>>
>> Pruning ctab
>>
>> tissue type schema
>>
>> Checking tissue type
>>
>> ERROR: CheckSegTissueType() tissue type for seg 258 Head-ExtraCerebral
>> not set
>>
>> Failed tissue type check
>>
>> I have searched to list several people who have issued similar errors but
>> unfortunately i could not find any solution that works for me. Below you
>> can find commands I used:
>>
>> $ gtmseg --s subject --o gtmseg.mgz --ctx-annot
>> Schaefer2018_400Parcels_7Networks_order.annot 1000 2000 --ctab
>> Schaefer2018_400Parcels_7Networks_order_LUT.txt
>> $ mri_coreg --s subject --mov AbetaPre.nii.gz --reg AbetaPre.reg.lta
>> $ mri_gtmpvc --i AbetaPre.nii.gz --psf 8 --reg AbetaPre.reg.lta
>> --regheader --seg gtmseg.mgz --default-seg-merge --auto-mask PSF .01 --mgx
>> .01 --km-ref 8 47 --o gtmpvc.output
>> Also I checked the run of gtmseg via "*tkmeditfv*" where i can visualise 258
>> Head-ExtraCerebral, and additionally I checked *gtmseg.ctab *file also 258
>> Head-ExtraCerebral in the list.
>> I will be happy to hear from you.
>> Kind regards.
>> --
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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer Website Ports

2021-04-06 Thread Swearingen, Hannah
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We are wanting to connect to the site in the need of support from the
freesurfer website (i.e. the manual pages) while behind our closed system.

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 9:29 AM Douglas N. Greve 
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> why do you need to connect to the web site? that is not needed to run FS
>
> On 4/5/2021 3:20 PM, Swearingen, Hannah wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I am setting up an Access Control List for an isolated VLAN in which my
> center's neuroimaging computing workstations will be connected to our
> hospital's network for data back-up.
>
> We want to be able to connect to Freesurfer's website while connected to
> the VLAN, and we need to supply which ports the website accesses. I used
> nmap to scan and see which ports are open, and I found this:
>
> PORTSTATE  SERVICE
>
> 21/tcp  open   ftp
>
> 80/tcp  open   http
>
> 443/tcp open   https
>
>
>
> Our hospital's IT is unsure if the FTP port can be opened without a
> security breach, and they are wondering if we will still be able to access
> the website without the 21/FTP port opened?
>
>
> Can anyone provide me with that information?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hannah
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Re: [Freesurfer] 2mm thick image for hippocampal segmentation.

2021-04-06 Thread Ramesh Babu
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Dear Douglas

Thank you very much for your suggestions.

Regards
Ramesh

On Tue, 6 Apr, 2021, 7:03 PM Douglas N. Greve, 
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> Twice the same image at 1x1x1, then use mri_robust_template to register
> and average them together
>
> On 4/6/2021 8:10 AM, Ramesh Babu wrote:
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> Dear Eugenio and Philipp,
>
> Thank you very much for your suggestions. Could you please give more input
> on "acquire the T1WI double and average it after coregistration, this
> increases the SNR".
>
> Should aquire twise the same sequence with 1x1x2 voxel dimension?
>
> Thanks
> Ramesh
>
>
> On Fri, 2 Apr, 2021, 9:00 PM Iglesias Gonzalez, Juan E., <
> jiglesiasgonza...@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>> That all sounds right, thanks a lot Philipp!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Juan Eugenio Iglesias
>>
>> Senior research fellow
>>
>> CMIC (UCL), MGH (HMS) and CSAIL (MIT)
>>
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>> *To: *Freesurfer support list , Umesh
>> Rurdrapatna 
>> *Subject: *Re: [Freesurfer] 2mm thick image for hippocampal segmentation.
>>
>>
>>
>> *External Email - Use Caution*
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>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I try to answer but Eugenio may also add comments. Several points that
>> are important:
>>
>> - 1.5 Tesla and 1x1x1 mm3 are at the limit of what the algorithm can
>> manage.
>>
>> - Post-aquisition reslicing to a higher resolution does not really
>> increase the information content. Internally the algorithm works at a much
>> higher resolution, anyway.
>>
>> - If possible, switch to 3 Tesla.
>>
>> - If possible and this is a prospective study, add a coronal T2 image and
>> use the bi-channel option. See papers of Iglesias et al. on this.
>>
>> - What you could also do on a 1.5 T is acquire the T1WI double and
>> average it after coregistration, this increases the SNR.
>>
>> - Generally, isometric resolutions are good due to the symmetry, of
>> course.
>>
>> - Also on 1.5 T, you may go bit below 1 mm with good head immobilization,
>> and a longer scanning time. BRAVO in general is a good T1 option.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Philipp
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Von:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <
>> freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> im Auftrag von Ramesh Babu <
>> mgrameshbabu2...@gmail.com>
>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 2. April 2021 09:29
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>> *Betreff:* Re: [Freesurfer] 2mm thick image for hippocampal segmentation.
>>
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>> Dear experts,
>>
>> Sorry for reposting. I am expecting some response from experts, so that I
>> can proceed with confidence.
>>
>> For our project work, we are looking for hippocampal  and its
>> subfield volumes. Using GE 1.5T scanner, we tried a 3D BRAVO sequence with
>> 1x1x1 resolution, 256x256x160 dimension with 8* flip angle which produced
>> images with a lot of noise. Then we tried the same sequence with 1x1x2
>> resolution, and 256x256x80 FOV, which produced a clean image without noise.
>> When we reformatted the images, it produces 0.5x0.5x1 resolution with
>> 512x512x172 dimension.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this sequence good for hippocampal volume estimation and subfield
>> segmentation (also for whole-brain VBM analysis)?
>>
>> Could you please suggest to me a correct sequence, if need to be changed?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
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Re: [Freesurfer] b0dc flag for Freesurfer7

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve
It is expecting a voxel shift map, which won't work with topup. One 
thing you can do is to do the preprocessing (motion correction, slice 
timing correction, topup) outside of fsfast, save the output as 
something like f.mypreproc.nii.gz, then specify -funcstem f.mypreproc 
when running mkanalysis-sess


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> I am wondering if there is additional documentation about the -b0dc flag for 
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> This flag is applying field distortion correction. Is it possible to use my 
> topup information in order to correct it or it s a different field correction?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Best
> Giorgio
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[Freesurfer] Fwd: Failed tissue type check {Disarmed}

2021-04-06 Thread Julie Ottoy
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Hi Doug,

Did you have a chance to look at this subject ?

Thanks a lot,
Julie

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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Failed tissue type check {Disarmed}
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Hi Doug

I upload the files on the server, see subject_ottoy.tar.gz

thanks a lot!
Julie

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 12:03, Douglas N. Greve 
wrote:

> I don't know. Can you upload the data so I can take a look? Instructions
> are below. I'd need both the anatomical data (output of recon-all) and
> input.nii.gz and PET.lta
>
> From the linux command line,
> Create the file you want to upload, eg,
> cd $SUBJECTS_DIR
> tar cvfz subject.tar.gz ./subject
> Now log  into our anonymous FTP site:
> ftp surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> It will ask you for a user name: use "anonymous" (no quotes)
> It will ask you for a password: use "anonymous" (no quotes)
> cd transfer/incoming
> binary
> put subject.tar.gz
> Send an email that the file has been and the name of the file.
>
>
>
> On 3/8/2021 11:47 AM, Julie Ottoy wrote:
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> Hi Doug,
>
> Any other suggestions I could try? It seems to be only an issue with the
> non-pvc data.
>
> Thanks
> Julie
>
> On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 at 11:10, Julie Ottoy  wrote:
>
>> Hi Doug,
>>
>> I tried these fixes but they still give me the error message below. I did
>> replace it in the gtmseg.ctab though -- should it be perhaps the seg.ctab
>> in the aux folder ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Julie
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 at 10:37, Julie Ottoy 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Doug
>>>
>>> I tried that as well but getting the same error as with --replace 29 3.
>>>
>>> ERROR: CTABpruneCTab(): ctab does not have segid 2
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> julie
>>>
>>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 at 10:35, Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <
>>> dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>
 Try using --replace 29 2


 On 12/29/2020 12:48 PM, Julie Ottoy wrote:

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 Hi Doug

 Thanks for your reply. I tried both your suggestions, but it seems as
 though they both ran into an error.

 For your first suggestion, i.e. adding --replace 29 3 to the command
 line of gtmpvc, I get the error:

 Loading seg for gtm 057_S_5295re/mri/gtmseg.mgz

 Loading seg ctab 057_S_5295re/mri/gtmseg.ctab

 Reading 057_S_5295re/mri/gtmseg.lta

 Replacing 19

 Pruning ctab

 ERROR: CTABpruneCTab(): ctab does not have segid 3


 For your second suggestion, i.e. I replaced the following line in the
 ctab:

   29  Left-undetermined   135 206 2350  -1

 ==> replaced by:  29  Left-undetermined   135 206 2350
 3


 I get the error:

 Computing Seg in input space

 Building GTM DoVoxFracCor=0

 ERROR: creating region for nthseg=12, segid=29, Left-undetermined

 It may be that there are no voxels for this seg when mapped into the
 input space.

 Check 057_S_5295/057_S_5295.gtmnopvc.output.pons/aux/seg.nii.gz and the
 registration

  Build time 5.9690, err = 1


 Thank you,

 Julie

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 dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:

> You can use the fix from my previous email or you can add the
> following line any were into the gtmseg.ctab file:
>  29  Left-undetermined   135 206 235 0 3
>
>
> On 12/18/2020 11:06 PM, Julie Ottoy wrote:
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> Sorry I would like to correct my previous post. The subject also
> failed with PVC.
> I see now that the issue is happening during the gtm seg stage where
> it gives the error: WARNING: segid   29 Left-undetermined tissue type is
> not set.
> For your information: I ran the standard FS and petsurfer pipeline as
> outlined on the wiki. I tried two gtm seg commands:
> gtmseg --s ${id} --xcerseg --keep-hypo --subsegwm --subseg-cblum-wm
> gtmseg --s ${id} --keep-cc --no-xcerseg --keep-hypo --subsegwm
> --subseg-cblum-wm
>
> Thank you for your help,
> Julie
>
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 00:09, Julie Ottoy 
> wrote:
>
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>> Dear Doug,
>>
>> I have the same issue as the people below. I was wondering if this
>> was solved in the meantime.
>>
>> I ran petsurfer gtmpvc with the psf 0 and no-tfe flags to not do PVC
>> and got the following error in only one of my subjects. When I ran the 
>> same
>> subject with PVC and specified psf, it did run fine.
>>
>> $Id: mri_gtmpvc.c,-
>> setenv -
>> cd -
>> mri_gtmpvc --i /input.nii.gz --reg PET.lta --psf 0 --no-tfe --seg
>> gtmseg.mgz --default-seg-merge --auto-mask 10 0.01 --mgx 0.01 --o
>> 

Re: [Freesurfer] mri_gtmpvc error Checking tissue type ERROR: CheckSegTissueType() tissue type for seg

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve
gtmseg will not give an error, but the color table that gtmseg outputs 
will not be right and needs to be fixed.


On 4/6/2021 9:41 AM, Bahar Hazal Yalçınkaya wrote:


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Thanks for response, color table and annotations are there 
"--ctx-annot Schaefer2018_400Parcels_7Networks_order.annot 1000 2000 
--ctab Schaefer2018_400Parcels_7Networks_order_LUT.txt", gtmseg did 
not gave an error, you can see at attachments. (Also I can see 258 
Head segmentation in *gtmseg.ctab *file)also mri_coreg is working well 
(see also attachments). The problem is the "*mri_gtmpvc*" command 
where it fails while checking tissue types more precisely it complains 
about Head segmentation.


I run with standard options. I checked everything I can think of, each 
file and image seems to be similar but still could not find a proper 
solution. Is there anything specific I need to check?

Thanks in advance,
Kind regards

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 3:26 PM Douglas N. Greve 
mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:


You will need to create a new color table. This is not hard, but
not easy either. First, there should be a color table already
there. I'm not sure what that will be like; it might have your
segments in it, it might not. It might be easier to run gtmseg
with the standard options and look at the color table, then try to
replicate it with your segmentation

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Hello Freesurfer"s Developers,

I am trying to follow */PetSurfer/* (*MailScanner has detected a
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be* https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/PetSurfer

)
to apply PVC to Pet images.
Default pipeline is working however, whenever i try to use
another atlas, Schaefer parcellation, mri_gtmpvc command I get
following error:
WARNING: LTAconcat(): inverting LTA 1 to match geometry

Replacing 18

Pruning ctab

tissue type schema

Checking tissue type

ERROR: CheckSegTissueType() tissue type for seg 258
Head-ExtraCerebral not set

Failed tissue type check


I have searched to list several people who have issued similar
errors but unfortunately i could not find any solution that works
for me. Below you can find commands I used:

$ gtmseg --s subject--o gtmseg.mgz
--ctx-annotSchaefer2018_400Parcels_7Networks_order.annot 1000
2000 --ctab Schaefer2018_400Parcels_7Networks_order_LUT.txt
$ mri_coreg --s subject --mov AbetaPre.nii.gz --reg AbetaPre.reg.lta
$ mri_gtmpvc --i AbetaPre.nii.gz --psf 8 --reg AbetaPre.reg.lta
--regheader --seg gtmseg.mgz --default-seg-merge --auto-mask PSF
.01 --mgx .01 --km-ref 8 47 --o gtmpvc.output
Also I checked the run of gtmseg via "*tkmeditfv*" where i can
visualise 258 Head-ExtraCerebral, and additionally I checked
*gtmseg.ctab *file also 258 Head-ExtraCerebral in the list.
I will be happy to hear from you.
Kind regards.
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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer Versions - Zeros in the Cortex

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve
Anything with 0 thickness is assumed to not be a valid cortical vertex. 
As such, we don't smooth it so that it does not corrupt other vertices 
that are valid. When you stack the images together and use this masked 
smoothing, any invalid vertex will become 0 for all subjects and will be 
ignored in the GLM analysis.


On 4/6/2021 9:38 AM, Daniel Gutstein wrote:


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Hello,

We are looking at the vertex-wise thickness measures for participants 
within the fsaverage space. There are a number of indices within the 
cortex that have thickness values of 0 in the thickness.fsaverage.mgh 
surface files. In FreeSurfer version 5.1, those same indices no longer 
have thickness 0 in the corresponding rh and lh fwhm smoothed 
thickness surface files due to the smoothing effect. However, in 
versions 6 and 7.1.1, the indices with 0 values remain 0 even in the 
fwhm smoothed files. Do you know why it was chosen that smoothing 
should have no impact on zeros in the later versions of FreeSurfer? 
Also, if we are interested in impacting the zeros from the later 
versions, is there a methodology which you would recommend?


Thanks,

Daniel


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[Freesurfer] Freesurfer Versions - Zeros in the Cortex

2021-04-06 Thread Daniel Gutstein
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Hello,

We are looking at the vertex-wise thickness measures for participants within 
the fsaverage space. There are a number of indices within the cortex that have 
thickness values of 0 in the thickness.fsaverage.mgh surface files. In 
FreeSurfer version 5.1, those same indices no longer have thickness 0 in the 
corresponding rh and lh fwhm smoothed thickness surface files due to the 
smoothing effect. However, in versions 6 and 7.1.1, the indices with 0 values 
remain 0 even in the fwhm smoothed files. Do you know why it was chosen that 
smoothing should have no impact on zeros in the later versions of FreeSurfer? 
Also, if we are interested in impacting the zeros from the later versions, is 
there a methodology which you would recommend?

Thanks,

Daniel
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Re: [Freesurfer] 2mm thick image for hippocampal segmentation.

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve
Twice the same image at 1x1x1, then use mri_robust_template to register 
and average them together


On 4/6/2021 8:10 AM, Ramesh Babu wrote:


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Dear Eugenio and Philipp,

Thank you very much for your suggestions. Could you please give more 
input on "acquire the T1WI double and average it after coregistration, 
this increases the SNR".


Should aquire twise the same sequence with 1x1x2 voxel dimension?

Thanks
Ramesh


On Fri, 2 Apr, 2021, 9:00 PM Iglesias Gonzalez, Juan E., 
> wrote:


That all sounds right, thanks a lot Philipp!

Juan Eugenio Iglesias

Senior research fellow

CMIC (UCL), MGH (HMS) and CSAIL (MIT)

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*From: *mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> on behalf of
"Saemann, Philipp" mailto:saem...@psych.mpg.de>>
*Reply-To: *Freesurfer support list
mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>
*Date: *Friday, April 2, 2021 at 03:51
*To: *Freesurfer support list mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>, Umesh Rurdrapatna
mailto:umes...@gmail.com>>
*Subject: *Re: [Freesurfer] 2mm thick image for hippocampal
segmentation.

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Hi,

I try to answer but Eugenio may also add comments. Several points
that are important:

- 1.5 Tesla and 1x1x1 mm3 are at the limit of what the algorithm
can manage.

- Post-aquisition reslicing to a higher resolution does not really
increase the information content. Internally the algorithm works
at a much higher resolution, anyway.

- If possible, switch to 3 Tesla.

- If possible and this is a prospective study, add a coronal T2
image and use the bi-channel option. See papers of Iglesias et al.
on this.

- What you could also do on a 1.5 T is acquire the T1WI double and
average it after coregistration, this increases the SNR.

- Generally, isometric resolutions are good due to the symmetry,
of course.

- Also on 1.5 T, you may go bit below 1 mm with good head
immobilization, and a longer scanning time. BRAVO in general is a
good T1 option.

Best,

Philipp



*Von:*freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> im Auftrag von
Ramesh Babu mailto:mgrameshbabu2...@gmail.com>>
*Gesendet:* Freitag, 2. April 2021 09:29
*An:* Freesurfer support list; Umesh Rurdrapatna
*Betreff:* Re: [Freesurfer] 2mm thick image for hippocampal
segmentation.

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Dear experts,

Sorry for reposting. I am expecting some response from experts, so
that I can proceed with confidence.

For our project work, we are looking for hippocampal  and its
subfield volumes. Using GE 1.5T scanner, we tried a 3D BRAVO
sequence with 1x1x1 resolution, 256x256x160 dimension with 8* flip
angle which produced images with a lot of noise. Then we tried the
same sequence with 1x1x2 resolution, and 256x256x80 FOV, which
produced a clean image without noise. When we reformatted the
images, it produces 0.5x0.5x1 resolution with 512x512x172 dimension.

Is this sequence good for hippocampal volume estimation and
subfield segmentation (also for whole-brain VBM analysis)?

Could you please suggest to me a correct sequence, if need to be
changed?

Regards

Ramesh

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Re: [Freesurfer] mris_average_surface fails

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve
Do you have write permissions to

/Applications/freesurfer/subjects

Of not on a mac

On 4/6/2021 6:39 AM, バキット・ムダシル wrote:
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> Hi,
> I am trying to make an average subject but when the process reaches 
> mris_average_surface it fails as seen below.
> My command was as follow:
> make_average_subject --out avgsubject --subjects spl_01 spl_02 spl_03 spl_04 
> spl_05 spl_06 spl_07 spl_08 spl_09 spl_10
> Can you please guide me to solve this issue.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mudathir
>
> ###
> #@# Making average lh.white surface -
> Tue Apr  6 19:23:39 JST 2021
> /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/avgsubject
> mris_make_average_surface -i 7 -o white -sdir-out 
> /Applications/freesurfer/subjects lh white sphere.reg avgsubject spl_01 
> spl_02 spl_03 spl_04 spl_05 spl_06 spl_07 spl_08 spl_09 spl_10
> reading vertex positions from white...
> ---
> hemi= lh
> avg_surf_name   = white
> canon_surf_name = sphere.reg
> out_sname   = avgsubject
> xform   = talairach.xfm
> ---
>
>
> Is a directory
> Is a directory
> ERROR: creating directory /
> ERROR: creating directory /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/avgsubject/surf
> mris_average_surface failed
> ERROR: make_average_surface
> #
>
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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer Website Ports

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve

why do you need to connect to the web site? that is not needed to run FS

On 4/5/2021 3:20 PM, Swearingen, Hannah wrote:


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Hi,

I am setting up an Access Control List for an isolated VLAN in which 
my center's neuroimaging computing workstations will be connected to 
our hospital's network for data back-up.


We want to be able to connect to Freesurfer's website while connected 
to the VLAN, and we need to supply which ports the website accesses. I 
used nmap to scan and see which ports are open, and I found this:


PORT   STATE  SERVICE

21/tcp open   ftp

80/tcp open   http

443/tcp open   https



Our hospital's IT is unsure if the FTP port can be opened without a 
security breach, and they are wondering if we will still be able to 
access the website without the 21/FTP port opened?



Can anyone provide me with that information?


Thanks,

Hannah


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Re: [Freesurfer] Problem with freesurfer measures

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve
It is normal that those give different results. I would expect them to 
be extremely close to each other, so small that the difference does not 
matter. But if you had to take one, I'd take the output of 
mris_anatomical_stats


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To obtain de stats from mri_anatomical stats i used
/>>mris_anatomical_stats -a 
/usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/218/label/rh.myAAL.annot 
-f///usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/218/stats/rh.myAAL.stats -b 218 rh/

In another hand, the workflow to obatian the stats from mri_segstats was:
>>/mri_aparc2aseg --s 218 --labelwm --hypo-as-wm --rip-unknown --volmask 
--o /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/218/mri/wmmyAAL.mgz //--annot myAAL/
/>>//mri_segstats --seg 
/usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/218/mri/wmmyAAL.mgz//--ctab 
/home/neuroimage/fsl/FreeSurfer/wmAALColorLUT.txt --sum 
/usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/218/stats/wmmyAAL.stats /
/-//-pv /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/218/mri/norm.mgz --excludeid 0 
--brainmask /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/218/mri/brainmask.mgz --in 
/usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/218/mri/norm.mgz/
/--in-intensity-name norm --in-intensity-units MR --subject 218 
--surf-wm-vol --etiv/


El lun, 5 abr 2021 a las 15:50, Douglas N. Greve 
(mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>>) escribió:


What are your command lines?

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Thanks a lot, It works!, now I have obtained values to ctx and wm
volumes for each area. However when I look at the gray matter
volume values calculated by mri_anatomical stats, the results are
pretty similar to the ctx-ROIs calculated by mri_segstats, but
not the same. It is normal? In that case what measure will be
more suitable?

El lun, 29 mar 2021 a las 5:22, Douglas N. Greve
(mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>>) escribió:

You'll need to create your own color table by adding 3000 to
the left hemi structures and 4000 to the right hemi
structures. Look at the 3000s and 4000s in
$FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt


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Hello Douglas, i tried but when i look at the wmparc.mgz
created by the code >>mri_aparc2aseg --s 215 --labelwm
--hypo-as-wm --rip-unknown --volmask --o mri/wmparc.mgz
--annot myAAL it takes the index and the names from
FreeSurferColorLUT instead of the names in the colorLUT
associated with myAAL.annot then the ROIs are disorganized.
Could you help me with this problem?

El jue, 25 mar 2021 a las 14:59, Douglas N. Greve
(mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>>)
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Look in recon-all.log to find the command that creates
the wmparc.mgz. Run that command changing the aparc
annot to your annot and the output to a new file name.
Look in wmparc.stats; at the top will be an mri_segstats
command line. Copy that command line changing the file
names as needed.

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Thanks!, how can I obtain the white matter volume stats
using my annotation file?

El mar, 16 mar 2021 a las 16:59, Douglas N. Greve
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I think they will give very similar results, but my
guess is that #1 is a little better

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I want to use the annotation file created by
myself in fsaverage to calculate the anatomical
stats, but i dont know what is the best workflow.

1. Convert the annotation file to each subject
space using mri_sur2surf and using
mri_anatomical_stats in each subject
2. Convert the surface of each subject to
fsaverage space and use mri_segstats to obtain the
data, in this case i dont know what surface i have
to convert to fsaverage space to do it (i can see
thickness (lh/rh.thickness) and volume
(lh/rh.volume) but not folding index and white
matter volume)

Any idea?

El lun, 8 mar 2021 a las 16:04, Fischl, Bruce
(mailto:bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu>>) escribió:

Hi Alberto

 1. And 4. Are not properties of single
surfaces – they are computed from the
white and the pial. For 2 and 3 that is
really up to you

Cheers
Bruce

   

Re: [Freesurfer] mri_gtmpvc error Checking tissue type ERROR: CheckSegTissueType() tissue type for seg

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve
You will need to create a new color table. This is not hard, but not 
easy either. First, there should be a color table already there. I'm not 
sure what that will be like; it might have your segments in it, it might 
not. It might be easier to run gtmseg with the standard options and look 
at the color table, then try to replicate it with your segmentation


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Hello Freesurfer"s Developers,

I am trying to follow */PetSurfer/* (*MailScanner has detected a 
possible fraud attempt from "secure-web.cisco.com" claiming to be* 
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/PetSurfer 
) 
to apply PVC to Pet images.
Default pipeline is working however, whenever i try to use another 
atlas, Schaefer parcellation, mri_gtmpvc command I get following error:

WARNING: LTAconcat(): inverting LTA 1 to match geometry

Replacing 18

Pruning ctab

tissue type schema

Checking tissue type

ERROR: CheckSegTissueType() tissue type for seg 258 Head-ExtraCerebral 
not set


Failed tissue type check


I have searched to list several people who have issued similar errors 
but unfortunately i could not find any solution that works for me. 
Below you can find commands I used:


$ gtmseg --s subject--o gtmseg.mgz 
--ctx-annotSchaefer2018_400Parcels_7Networks_order.annot 1000 2000 
--ctab Schaefer2018_400Parcels_7Networks_order_LUT.txt

$ mri_coreg --s subject --mov AbetaPre.nii.gz --reg AbetaPre.reg.lta
$ mri_gtmpvc --i AbetaPre.nii.gz --psf 8 --reg AbetaPre.reg.lta 
--regheader --seg gtmseg.mgz --default-seg-merge --auto-mask PSF .01 
--mgx .01 --km-ref 8 47 --o gtmpvc.output
Also I checked the run of gtmseg via "*tkmeditfv*" where i can 
visualise 258 Head-ExtraCerebral, and additionally I checked 
*gtmseg.ctab *file also 258 Head-ExtraCerebral in the list.

I will be happy to hear from you.
Kind regards.
--
Ph.D. Bahar Hazal Yalçınkaya


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2021-04-06 Thread Coleman, Katherine
Hello,

Please remove me from the free surfer forum mailing list.

Thank you,
Katherine

Katherine Coleman, MS
Research Assistant II
Mood Trajectories and Outcomes Laboratory
Department of Psychiatry

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Re: [Freesurfer] Dicom Tag Problem Reconall

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve

Can you send /tmp/banu.tmp.decompressed.dcm.1TXZUy.dcmdjpeg.out ?
If that is not there any more, run it again and send the newly created file

On 4/4/2021 3:57 PM, Banu Femir wrote:


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Dear Freesurfer Developers,

I'm trying to analyze a set of MRI data that I got via CD. Dicom files 
did not have .dcm extension, so I used a program and they turned into 
a .dcm image.


My reconall run for around 2 hours, after I got an error:

Counting frames
nframes = 481
nslices = 1
ndcmfiles = 481
PE Dir = UNKNOWN (dicom read)
Loading pixel data
JPEG compressed, decompressing
cd /home/banu/usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/sepsis1dicomwritebelow
fsdcmdecompress --i 
/home/banu/Documents/Sepsis/yeni_dicom_write_below/F_01.dcm --o 
/tmp/banu.tmp.decompressed.dcm.1TXZUy --jpeg >& 
/tmp/banu.tmp.decompressed.dcm.1TXZUy.dcmdjpeg.out
ERROR: 512, see /tmp/banu.tmp.decompressed.dcm.1TXZUy.dcmdjpeg.out for 
more details
Linux banuf 4.15.0-51-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 15 14:27:21 UTC 
2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux



Before that, I got many Warnings about imagenumber, tag serial number, 
seriesnumber, tag, ect. In case you want I can share the whole log 
file. I am wondering if there was sth wrong with my .dcm format. If 
yes, how I can solve this problem? It seems like there was sth wrong 
with tags, but I really cannot solve the problem.


Many thanks!
Have a nice and healthy week!
Banu

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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all bug

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve
So the problem is that there are spaces in the path? That will probably 
cause a lot of FS to fail


On 4/2/2021 11:30 PM, zalewk wrote:


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Hi freesurfer team,

I've tried running recon-all as mentioned before with the -xf flag 
under different conditions.
As far as I can tell, any line using the UpdateNeeded function. e.g.: 
"set ud = `UpdateNeeded $thickness $pial $white`" fails with the 
following if statement because the variable $ud includes paths as 
strings in it instead of a 0/1 integer. Setting it to a 1 or 0 
beforehand also seems to solve the problem. The function UpdateNeeded 
only seems to return an integer as an exit status, so I'm not sure why 
there are path strings in it causing it to fail.

If I print out the $ud variable before it fails and the result is:
"/subjectDirectory/subjectID_FREESURFER/mri mri mri_FREESURFER 
/subjectDirectory/subjectID_FREESURFER/mri/mri_FREESURFER/stats 1"
It returns the exit status of 1 preceded by the path of the subject's 
mri directory, just "mri", "mri_FREESURFER" and the subject's stats 
directory (all subjects in this particular study have the suffix 
"_FREESURFER"). It prints this out these strings no matter the 
variables as .mgz file names, or number of variables passed to the 
UpdateNeeded function. I still don't have a clue what would cause this 
behavior. The UpdateNeeded function seems to work fine and as intended 
as far as I can tell, so I still don't know why these paths/strings 
are being added and causing it to crash.


Best,
Kody Zalewski

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Hello Kody,
One thing you could try to get more information printed about what
is going on is to edit the very first line in the recon-all script
to be:
#! /bin/tcsh -xf
? instead of
#! /bin/tcsh -f
Adding the x option will echo each line in the script as it?s run
with the variable values expanded, and seeing that output could
help with debugging.

- R.

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Freesurfer team,My lab recently switched over from FS6 to
FS7 and I think I've encountered a bug with recon-all..I'm
running subjects stepwise and editing them, running recon-all with
the -autorecon2 and -autorecon3 flags initially are no problem,
they run fine. Trying to re-run them or use the
-autorecon2-wm, -autorecon-pial etc. flags lead to crashing at
certain parts of the program. The error message I get is "if:
expression syntax". Digging into the code, it seems to crash when
it hits a line of code "if($ud || $ForceUpdate)". The syntax
superficially looks right (I don't know tcsh), checking the
variables it seems like $ForceUpdate is never set, but removing it
from recon-all doesn't fix the problem.It seems the
$ud variable is for checking if updates are !
 needed fo
 r a set of volumes passed to the program. I don't know why that
would be a problematic argument, removing that part seems to fix
it, but this also seems like an important variable and I don't
know enough about tcsh to understand why it works after removing
it. Can one of the folks who wrote the recon-all script help me
out? I'm running the commands step-wise as a work-around, but that
is much less convenient.Best,Kody
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Re: [Freesurfer] mris_label2annot - make all command exiting with errors

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve
The "-make" functionality does not work in V7. We should have disabled 
that flag


On 4/2/2021 3:41 AM, Marion DURTESTE wrote:


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Dear FreeSurfer developers,

When running*recon-all -make all *after correcting a few errors from 
the recon-all output, it exits with an error. This occurs when the 
mris_label2annot command is called.


Loading 
/Users/mariondurteste/Documents/PhD/FreeSurfer/ReconstructedAfterQC/ToDo/ALA076_1/surf/lh.orig

1 1376057 FG1
2 16711935 FG2
ERROR: lh.FG2.mpm.vpnl.label, n=580, vertex 119494 out of range

If we rerun the -make all command a second time it then finishes 
without errors. Do you know why this is ?


  * FREESURFER version: freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.1.1-20200811-8b40551
  * Platform: macOS BigSur 11.2.2

Thanks for your help !
Marion D


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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all bug

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve
Run it with -debug as the first option, capture the output, and send it 
to us.


On 4/1/2021 8:29 PM, zalewk wrote:


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Hi Freesurfer team,

My lab recently switched over from FS6 to FS7 and I think I've 
encountered a bug with recon-all.
I'm running subjects stepwise and editing them, running recon-all with 
the -autorecon2 and -autorecon3 flags initially are no problem, they 
run fine.  Trying to re-run them or use the -autorecon2-wm, 
-autorecon-pial etc. flags lead to crashing at certain parts of the 
program. The error message I get is "if: expression syntax". Digging 
into the code, it seems to crash when it hits a line of code "if($ud 
|| $ForceUpdate)". The syntax superficially looks right (I don't know 
tcsh), checking the variables it seems like $ForceUpdate is never set, 
but removing it from recon-all doesn't fix the problem.
It seems the $ud variable is for checking if updates are needed for a 
set of volumes passed to the program. I don't know why that would be a 
problematic argument, removing that part seems to fix it, but this 
also seems like an important variable and I don't know enough about 
tcsh to understand why it works after removing it. Can one of the 
folks who wrote the recon-all script help me out? I'm running the 
commands step-wise as a work-around, but that is much less convenient.


Best,
Kody Zalewski

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Re: [Freesurfer] retaining label ids

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve

I don't understand, please elaborate

On 4/1/2021 2:00 PM, miracle ozzoude wrote:


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Hello Experts,

I did like to extract wm whilst retaining the label ids. I tried 
mri_extract_labels but it didn't work.


Any help would be appreciated.

Many thanks,
Paul

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Re: [Freesurfer] Regarding recon all

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve

Include the flag -cw256 with recon-all!

On 4/1/2021 1:52 AM, Amar Shukla wrote:


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Dear Team,

Actually I am trying to test my own data in recon all , but i have 
taken only one subject for recon. It shows me this error.


ERROR! FOV=408.000 > 256
Include the flag -cw256 with recon-all!
Inspect orig.mgz to ensure the head is fully visible.


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20 13:40:25 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


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Centre Of Information Technology,
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_glmfit error

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve

The format is not correct. It should be
Input SubjectID Class
You have SubjectID in there twice

On 4/1/2021 1:15 AM, Ishi Tandon AIB, Jaipur wrote:


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Hello FS experts,

I attempted to execute  mri_glmfit on my structural data through the 
following command -


mri_glmfit --y final.lh.mTBI.volume.10.mgh --fsgd FSGD/mild.tbi.fsgd 
dods -C contrats/HC-mTBI.mtx --surf fsaverage --cortex --glmdir 
lh.volume.glmdir


But it gives me an error (attached below) indicating a formatting 
problem in my FSGD file (attached).
I have been trying to figure that out for a while. But I am unable to 
debug it.


Could someone please help me resolve it?
Thanks for your time.

/Regards,/
/Ishi Tandon/
/B.Tech + M.Tech - Cognitive Neuroscience/
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Re: [Freesurfer] fMRIPrep BOLD Output

2021-04-06 Thread Douglas N. Greve
Did you check that the bold is really in register with the anat? You can 
do this with

tkregisterfv --mov bold_preproc.nii.gz  --s sub-01--reg deleteme.lta --surfs


On 3/31/2021 10:49 AM, Karan Desai wrote:


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Hi FS Forum,

I am following up on this post because after using mri_vol2surf to 
downsample my scans to fsaverage4, I ended up with empty files when 
viewed in Freeview. This is the command that I ran generally:


mri_vol2surf--srcbold_preproc.nii.gz --outlh.imagename.nii.gz--regheadersub-01--trgsubject 
fsaverage4 -hemilh


I am assuming there are some tags that I may be missing which are 
leading me to output with empty nii.gz files. The input bold 
preprocessed files are viewed normally in Freeview, but the output is 
empty.


Thank you in advance.

*From:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 on behalf of Douglas N. Greve 


*Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2021 9:43 PM
*To:* freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
*Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] fMRIPrep BOLD Output
sounds like you need mri_vol2surf (use --projfrac 0.5)

On 3/18/2021 11:38 AM, Karan Desai wrote:


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Hi Freesurfer List,

I am running fMRIPrep and getting the first two FS output files (aseg 
and aparcaseg seen above in the screenshot), but not the actual file 
I need which is the one where it is resampled to the mesh. I have run 
fMRIPrep and have those two files except the actual BOLD series 
resampled to the surface mesh. Is there a FS command that can be used 
to do that one step?


Best,
Karan

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Re: [Freesurfer] 2mm thick image for hippocampal segmentation.

2021-04-06 Thread Ramesh Babu
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Dear Eugenio and Philipp,

Thank you very much for your suggestions. Could you please give more input
on "acquire the T1WI double and average it after coregistration, this
increases the SNR".

Should aquire twise the same sequence with 1x1x2 voxel dimension?

Thanks
Ramesh


On Fri, 2 Apr, 2021, 9:00 PM Iglesias Gonzalez, Juan E., <
jiglesiasgonza...@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:

> That all sounds right, thanks a lot Philipp!
>
>
>
>
>
> Juan Eugenio Iglesias
>
> Senior research fellow
>
> CMIC (UCL), MGH (HMS) and CSAIL (MIT)
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> *From: * on behalf of "Saemann,
> Philipp" 
> *Reply-To: *Freesurfer support list 
> *Date: *Friday, April 2, 2021 at 03:51
> *To: *Freesurfer support list , Umesh
> Rurdrapatna 
> *Subject: *Re: [Freesurfer] 2mm thick image for hippocampal segmentation.
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>
>
> *External Email - Use Caution*
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> Hi,
>
>
>
> I try to answer but Eugenio may also add comments. Several points that are
> important:
>
> - 1.5 Tesla and 1x1x1 mm3 are at the limit of what the algorithm can
> manage.
>
> - Post-aquisition reslicing to a higher resolution does not really
> increase the information content. Internally the algorithm works at a much
> higher resolution, anyway.
>
> - If possible, switch to 3 Tesla.
>
> - If possible and this is a prospective study, add a coronal T2 image and
> use the bi-channel option. See papers of Iglesias et al. on this.
>
> - What you could also do on a 1.5 T is acquire the T1WI double and average
> it after coregistration, this increases the SNR.
>
> - Generally, isometric resolutions are good due to the symmetry, of course.
>
> - Also on 1.5 T, you may go bit below 1 mm with good head immobilization,
> and a longer scanning time. BRAVO in general is a good T1 option.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Philipp
>
>
> --
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> *Von:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <
> freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> im Auftrag von Ramesh Babu <
> mgrameshbabu2...@gmail.com>
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> *Betreff:* Re: [Freesurfer] 2mm thick image for hippocampal segmentation.
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> Dear experts,
>
> Sorry for reposting. I am expecting some response from experts, so that I
> can proceed with confidence.
>
> For our project work, we are looking for hippocampal  and its
> subfield volumes. Using GE 1.5T scanner, we tried a 3D BRAVO sequence with
> 1x1x1 resolution, 256x256x160 dimension with 8* flip angle which produced
> images with a lot of noise. Then we tried the same sequence with 1x1x2
> resolution, and 256x256x80 FOV, which produced a clean image without noise.
> When we reformatted the images, it produces 0.5x0.5x1 resolution with
> 512x512x172 dimension.
>
>
>
> Is this sequence good for hippocampal volume estimation and subfield
> segmentation (also for whole-brain VBM analysis)?
>
> Could you please suggest to me a correct sequence, if need to be changed?
>
>
>
> Regards
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[Freesurfer] mris_average_surface fails

2021-04-06 Thread バキット・ムダシル
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Hi,
I am trying to make an average subject but when the process reaches 
mris_average_surface it fails as seen below.
My command was as follow:
make_average_subject --out avgsubject --subjects spl_01 spl_02 spl_03 spl_04 
spl_05 spl_06 spl_07 spl_08 spl_09 spl_10
Can you please guide me to solve this issue.

Thanks

Mudathir

###
#@# Making average lh.white surface -
Tue Apr  6 19:23:39 JST 2021
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/avgsubject
mris_make_average_surface -i 7 -o white -sdir-out 
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects lh white sphere.reg avgsubject spl_01 spl_02 
spl_03 spl_04 spl_05 spl_06 spl_07 spl_08 spl_09 spl_10
reading vertex positions from white...
---
hemi= lh
avg_surf_name   = white
canon_surf_name = sphere.reg
out_sname   = avgsubject
xform   = talairach.xfm
---


Is a directory
Is a directory
ERROR: creating directory /
ERROR: creating directory /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/avgsubject/surf
mris_average_surface failed
ERROR: make_average_surface
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