[Freevo-devel] Idlebar (was: Dischi/Rob - TV question)
Aubin Paul wrote: Wow... I didn't even think it was setup /THAT/ properly :) This is remarkably easier than editing the code. I can wait for Gustavo's thing, it's mainly a cosmetic issue, but because I made the info area 'thinner' to account for the idlebar, I needed to compress the info a little. Idlebar -- there was a discussion about that on IRC some days ago. I would like to make it possible to use the idle bar on _all_ skins. But I don't want to design all skins with the free space for the idle bar, maybe the user doesn't want the bar and it would be a waste of space. Solution: when we use the idle bar, the skin should be scale down the areas automaticly to make free space for the bar. The question is: how should the skin know that space is needed? Should the skin know about the idle bar only only about something that needs space? How much space? And where? When I know the answers to that questions, I will integrate it. I also would like to remove the hardcoded x positions of the idlebar plugins. Each plugin should get x where to draw and returns the width it used. Based on the plugin level, this should look much better (except the clock, it is always on the right site). BTW, how to set idle bar fonts and colors? In the skin or as plugin parameter? Suggestions? Dischi -- Software isn't released, it's allowed to escape. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Freevo-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
Re: [Freevo-devel] Idlebar (was: Dischi/Rob - TV question)
--- Dirk Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Aubin Paul wrote: Wow... I didn't even think it was setup /THAT/ properly :) This is remarkably easier than editing the code. I can wait for Gustavo's thing, it's mainly a cosmetic issue, but because I made the info area 'thinner' to account for the idlebar, I needed to compress the info a little. Idlebar -- there was a discussion about that on IRC some days ago. I would like to make it possible to use the idle bar on _all_ skins. But I don't want to design all skins with the free space for the idle bar, maybe the user doesn't want the bar and it would be a waste of space. Solution: when we use the idle bar, the skin should be scale down the areas automaticly to make free space for the bar. The question is: how should the skin know that space is needed? Should the skin know about the idle bar only only about something that needs space? How much space? And where? When I know the answers to that questions, I will integrate it. I'm totally agains auto-scale things and IMHO Pygame scaling sucks :) It's not too difficult to adapt the skin (manually) to use the idle bar... we could do like this: You release the skins without the idle bar and later we (I/you/dischi/rob/someone) convert it to the idlebar format... Then we make a poll asking users what one they prefer/use more. From the poll results we define if it's better to release the version with or the version without the idlebar (but we try to release the other version as soon as possible). Also, we should do that with our self-scalable skins (800x600, 640x480, ...) when we make a new release we should create independently skin files and ICONS and BACKGROUND IMAGES... so when you decide to customize your 640x480 skin (and you're a poor user) you don't have to go through all the skin/xml/type1/*.fxd files to find how to change the font color :) It's easy for us (developers) but it is stupid, because Freevo needs to recalculate everything everytime I also would like to remove the hardcoded x positions of the idlebar plugins. Each plugin should get x where to draw and returns the width it used. Based on the plugin level, this should look much better (except the clock, it is always on the right site). BTW, how to set idle bar fonts and colors? In the skin or as plugin parameter? IMHO, as parameter. Also, we could define if the idlebar is vertical or horizontal. And to choose the position we could define that positive numbers are left-right or top-bottom, negative ones are right-left (ie, clock) and bottom-up. Gustavo ___ Yahoo! Mail Mais espaço, mais segurança e gratuito: caixa postal de 6MB, antivírus, proteção contra spam. http://br.mail.yahoo.com/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Freevo-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
Re: [Freevo-devel] Idlebar (was: Dischi/Rob - TV question)
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 11:30, Dirk Meyer wrote: Idlebar -- there was a discussion about that on IRC some days ago. I would like to make it possible to use the idle bar on _all_ skins. But I don't want to design all skins with the free space for the idle bar, maybe the user doesn't want the bar and it would be a waste of space. Right. Solution: when we use the idle bar, the skin should be scale down the areas automaticly to make free space for the bar. Right. The question is: how should the skin know that space is needed? This is usually accomplished with a layout manager. Most GUI toolkits have them, several different ones in fact. Just an observation: it seems that Freevo has taken on the task of writing yet-another-GUI-toolkit rather than leveraging off of the many that are already out there and relatively mature. b. -- Brian J. Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Freevo-devel] Idlebar (was: Dischi/Rob - TV question)
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 15:39, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: I'm totally agains auto-scale things and IMHO Pygame scaling sucks :) I don't think we are talking about scaling, as much as having at least one widget per screen that basically gets whatever space is left after all of the others have made their space requirements known. Most screens have this sort of widget. Take for example a screen listing files that can be shown. The list size can be variable, getting whatever space is left after the idlebar (if the user chooses to use it) and whatever else is drawn that has absolute space requirements. b. -- Brian J. Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Freevo-devel] Idlebar (was: Dischi/Rob - TV question)
Ok, But somethings like icons and background needs scaling anyway. See my other mail to Dischi... Also, about your other email about freevo writing a new GUI toolkit, yes, we are doing that. But's not our fault and yes, I already searched for an alternative (when I started to write osd.drawstringframed*)... No toolkit is so flexible as we need... If you find a good substitute that fits freevo's needs I would thank (I would thank you even more if you find something that provides HTML rendering... since it would be useful if we want an Email or a Browser... and we could use it even in text info :) --- Brian J. Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 15:39, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: I'm totally agains auto-scale things and IMHO Pygame scaling sucks :) I don't think we are talking about scaling, as much as having at least one widget per screen that basically gets whatever space is left after all of the others have made their space requirements known. Most screens have this sort of widget. Take for example a screen listing files that can be shown. The list size can be variable, getting whatever space is left after the idlebar (if the user chooses to use it) and whatever else is drawn that has absolute space requirements. b. -- Brian J. Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature name=signature.asc ___ Yahoo! Mail Mais espaço, mais segurança e gratuito: caixa postal de 6MB, antivírus, proteção contra spam. http://br.mail.yahoo.com/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Freevo-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
