Re: [FRIAM] My charity is more effective than your charity!

2015-07-08 Thread glen ep ropella
On 07/07/2015 07:06 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
 OsiriX is good for MRIs (DICOM files).   MIALite is a segmentation plugin for 
 it that works.   Some of the OsiriX plugins have bitrot and crash the 
 browser.  Give your GPU  something [cough] useful to do other than [cough] 
 gaming.Don't know about segment tracking over time.   Might have to write 
 that.. 

Very cool.  $700 is pretty stiff.  It's not clear whether the plugin will work 
with the osirix free version.  I have been using ginkgo cad, the free version 
of which works pretty well.

On 07/07/2015 07:43 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
 I think you should *build* a video game based on your thorax... or a 
 projection of it's 4D-ness...  and uses Dr. Seuss's Lorax as a theme for 
 the narrative!

I'm just starting to dip my toes into 3D modeling (for another project).  I 
wonder how difficult it would be to create a 3D world modeled off the DICOM 
images?  It'd be kinda cool running a little avatar around over the kidneys and 
through the ribs, to grandmother's goiter we go!

-- 
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Re: [FRIAM] My charity is more effective than your charity!

2015-07-08 Thread Marcus Daniels
I use the OsiriX Lite version, which is free.   The MIALite plugin was also 
free. This was on a Haswell MacBook Pro running  Yosemite.   I didn't have the 
presence of mind to get the full body scan of my dog when the opportunity 
arose.   Maybe for that I would have needed the 64 bit version (and pay for 
it).   But for 3 Tesla brain scans the 32 bit version is sufficient.Does 
volumetric rendering without any plugins.And sufficiently well I can 
recognize the face!

The segmentation / region growing can identify different compartments (at least 
of the brain), so perhaps with some parameter sweeps on starting positions and 
thresholds, one could create rooms and passageways.   I would think major 
organs would be easier to isolate, but I don't have that data.   What could be 
more satisfying that shooting-up unwelcome cellular activity?

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From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen ep ropella
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 8:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] My charity is more effective than your charity!

On 07/07/2015 07:06 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
 OsiriX is good for MRIs (DICOM files).   MIALite is a segmentation plugin for 
 it that works.   Some of the OsiriX plugins have bitrot and crash the 
 browser.  Give your GPU  something [cough] useful to do other than [cough] 
 gaming.Don't know about segment tracking over time.   Might have to write 
 that.. 

Very cool.  $700 is pretty stiff.  It's not clear whether the plugin will work 
with the osirix free version.  I have been using ginkgo cad, the free version 
of which works pretty well.

On 07/07/2015 07:43 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
 I think you should *build* a video game based on your thorax... or a 
 projection of it's 4D-ness...  and uses Dr. Seuss's Lorax as a theme for 
 the narrative!

I'm just starting to dip my toes into 3D modeling (for another project).  I 
wonder how difficult it would be to create a 3D world modeled off the DICOM 
images?  It'd be kinda cool running a little avatar around over the kidneys and 
through the ribs, to grandmother's goiter we go!

--
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Re: [FRIAM] My charity is more effective than your charity!

2015-07-08 Thread Nick Thompson
To all Game-makers and visualizers on this list, 

I want to warn you all (speaking of 3d modeling) that I have been for years
(as Steve G. will testify)  trying to get somebody to do 3D visualizations
of the interaction of air masses, particularly in the region around and just
east of the Sangres, where cold dry Canadian air masses slosh down the front
range to be overlapped by warm moist air masses from the Gulf and hot dry
air masses from the desert SW.  It is here that the atmospheric layers are
often generated that are the conditions for severe weather further east.
The need is great for this visualization because many people who ought to
know better are confused about this layering.  I think I might even know of
some people at NOAA who would help.  Unfortunately, I have nothing to offer
in return but my love and the promise of the enduring gratitude of TV
weather people all over the Midwest who don't seem to understand the concept
of a conditionally unstable atmosphere.  

You have been warned.  

Nick 

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 10:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] My charity is more effective than your charity!

On 07/07/2015 07:06 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
 OsiriX is good for MRIs (DICOM files).   MIALite is a segmentation plugin
for it that works.   Some of the OsiriX plugins have bitrot and crash the
browser.  Give your GPU  something [cough] useful to do other than [cough]
gaming.Don't know about segment tracking over time.   Might have to
write that.. 

Very cool.  $700 is pretty stiff.  It's not clear whether the plugin will
work with the osirix free version.  I have been using ginkgo cad, the free
version of which works pretty well.

On 07/07/2015 07:43 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
 I think you should *build* a video game based on your thorax... or a
projection of it's 4D-ness...  and uses Dr. Seuss's Lorax as a theme for
the narrative!

I'm just starting to dip my toes into 3D modeling (for another project).  I
wonder how difficult it would be to create a 3D world modeled off the
DICOM images?  It'd be kinda cool running a little avatar around over the
kidneys and through the ribs, to grandmother's goiter we go!

--
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Re: [FRIAM] My charity is more effective than your charity!

2015-07-08 Thread Marcus Daniels
I want to warn you all (speaking of 3d modeling) that I have been for years 
(as Steve G. will testify)  trying to get somebody to do 3D visualizations of 
the interaction of air masses, particularly in the region around and just east 
of the Sangres, where cold dry Canadian air masses slosh down the front range 
to be overlapped by warm moist air masses from the Gulf and hot dry air masses 
from the desert SW.  It is here that the atmospheric layers are often generated 
that are the conditions for severe weather further east.
The need is great for this visualization because many people who ought to know 
better are confused about this layering.  I think I might even know of some 
people at NOAA who would help.  Unfortunately, I have nothing to offer in 
return but my love and the promise of the enduring gratitude of TV weather 
people all over the Midwest who don't seem to understand the concept of a 
conditionally unstable atmosphere.  

NOAA folks might have access to supercomputers, and appropriate codes, but if 
not there's..

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/viewSubmitAProposal.do

Special consideration will be given to proposals addressing climate change, 
such as:

Climate and meteorology: climate modeling, severe weather warning
Climate change adaptation: sea level modeling, improving crop or livestock 
yields and resilience, watershed modeling
Climate change mitigation: renewable energy modeling, renewable energy 
materials research

Also there are experts in the area..

http://climatemodeling.science.energy.gov/presentations


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Re: [FRIAM] My charity is more effective than your charity!

2015-07-08 Thread Nick Thompson
Wow!  Thank you, Marcus.  And here I thought this was a folie a un. 

 

I should have learned by now that there is no craziness so profound that
somebody doesn't have a website on it.

 

N 

 

 

 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 11:57 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] My charity is more effective than your charity!

 

I want to warn you all (speaking of 3d modeling) that I have been for years
(as Steve G. will testify)  trying to get somebody to do 3D visualizations
of the interaction of air masses, particularly in the region around and just
east of the Sangres, where cold dry Canadian air masses slosh down the front
range to be overlapped by warm moist air masses from the Gulf and hot dry
air masses from the desert SW.  It is here that the atmospheric layers are
often generated that are the conditions for severe weather further east.

The need is great for this visualization because many people who ought to
know better are confused about this layering.  I think I might even know of
some people at NOAA who would help.  Unfortunately, I have nothing to offer
in return but my love and the promise of the enduring gratitude of TV
weather people all over the Midwest who don't seem to understand the concept
of a conditionally unstable atmosphere.  

 

NOAA folks might have access to supercomputers, and appropriate codes, but
if not there's..

 

 http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/viewSubmitAProposal.do
http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/viewSubmitAProposal.do

 

Special consideration will be given to proposals addressing climate change,
such as:

 

Climate and meteorology: climate modeling, severe weather warning

Climate change adaptation: sea level modeling, improving crop or
livestock yields and resilience, watershed modeling

Climate change mitigation: renewable energy modeling, renewable energy
materials research

 

Also there are experts in the area..

 

 http://climatemodeling.science.energy.gov/presentations
http://climatemodeling.science.energy.gov/presentations

 



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Re: [FRIAM] My charity is more effective than your charity!

2015-07-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
We went to dinner at a friend's place on the 4th.  I explained how happy my 
oncologist and my research nurse were that a few of my periaortic lymph nodes 
had shrunk by a miniscule amount between the last scan (6 months ago) and this 
latest one.  And I (again) floated my skepticism, which is based on the fact 
that they only measured in 2 dimensions ... yet my thorax is a 3D object.  And, 
thank the gods, I've gained all the weight I lost during my chemo.  So, it 
seems completely reasonable that a 2D projection of a 3D object may not take 
into account any rotation or compression due to, e.g. an increase in visceral 
fat.

In observing a few neurologists, it doesn't seem common yet to do automated 3D 
reconstructions or  isolate spatial anomalies with boundary inference 
techniques.   They just step through the slices.  Or in your case, one of them. 
I guess they get used to doing it one way, develop protocols around it, and 
they tend to stick around a long time.  

I think your thorax is at least a 4D object!   (Enter a dozen e-mails on what 
an object really is or is not..)

Marcus


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Re: [FRIAM] My charity is more effective than your charity!

2015-07-07 Thread glen

On 07/07/2015 02:47 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:

I think your thorax is at least a 4D object!


Since I get copies of all the images on CD, I've thought about doing a 3D 
animation.  It might be a bit difficult to interpolate between scans.  But 
surely there are established methods for doing it.  I just need to quit playing 
video games long enough to do the work.

--
⇔ glen


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Re: [FRIAM] My charity is more effective than your charity!

2015-07-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
OsiriX is good for MRIs (DICOM files).   MIALite is a segmentation plugin for 
it that works.   Some of the OsiriX plugins have bitrot and crash the browser.  
Give your GPU  something [cough] useful to do other than [cough] gaming.
Don't know about segment tracking over time.   Might have to write that.. 

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From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 4:36 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] My charity is more effective than your charity!

On 07/07/2015 02:47 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
 I think your thorax is at least a 4D object!

Since I get copies of all the images on CD, I've thought about doing a 3D 
animation.  It might be a bit difficult to interpolate between scans.  But 
surely there are established methods for doing it.  I just need to quit playing 
video games long enough to do the work.

--
⇔ glen


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Re: [FRIAM] My charity is more effective than your charity!

2015-07-07 Thread Steve Smith
I think you should *build* a video game based on your thorax... or a 
projection of it's 4D-ness...  and uses Dr. Seuss's Lorax as a theme 
for the narrative!

OsiriX is good for MRIs (DICOM files).   MIALite is a segmentation plugin for 
it that works.   Some of the OsiriX plugins have bitrot and crash the browser.  
Give your GPU  something [cough] useful to do other than [cough] gaming.
Don't know about segment tracking over time.   Might have to write that..

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From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 4:36 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] My charity is more effective than your charity!

On 07/07/2015 02:47 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:

I think your thorax is at least a 4D object!

Since I get copies of all the images on CD, I've thought about doing a 3D 
animation.  It might be a bit difficult to interpolate between scans.  But 
surely there are established methods for doing it.  I just need to quit playing 
video games long enough to do the work.

--
⇔ glen


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