Re: FVWM: Setting window title

2010-12-18 Thread Jason Timrod
hi,

--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Jaimos Skriletz  wrote:

> The answer is as with many opensource software, when its
> ready. FVWM has very slow development (compared to other
> more main stream projects) but its still slowly moving
> forward.

ok, thats cool. thanks for letting me know :)
 
> If you are intersted in what is needed to be done check out
> the files docs/TODO and docs/todo-2.6 in the CVS tree. The
> second is a summary of the bugs/testing that plans to be
> done before the release of 2.6.

i looked but i have to say i dont think i have enough knowledge to be helpful - 
i dont know alot of C and never have looked at xlib (if thats needed?) how 
difficult is xlib to learn? where would any one start?

or are there more simple tasks not on the lists you mentioned which could still 
be done? i am sure i can spend an hour or two doing something :)

> If your wanting 2.6 in the near future don't hold your
> breath, but it will eventally get released.

thank you for letting me know - do you or any one else post announcement 
someplace for progress so that people like me can check on progress?

are you working on any thing at present for fvwm?

Jason


  



Re: FVWM: Setting window title

2010-12-14 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 04:21:32PM -0800, Jason Timrod wrote:
> hi Jaimos,
> 
> --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Jaimos Skriletz  wrote:
> 
> > Thomas clearly explains why it won't be applied. FVWM is in
> > a feature freeze until 2.6 comes out. This is a new feature
> > (not a bug fix). From the link you read:
> > 
> 
> what are the plans for the next release? is it near? i think ive read before 
> about 2.6.0 but that was ages ago - how long must us users wait before a new 
> release?
> 
> whats left to be done, and why isnt the cvs version released as 2.6 already? 
> or am i missing something? :) who controls this process, and who can i talk 
> to about helping out?

The answer is as with many opensource software, when its ready. FVWM has very 
slow development (compared to other more main stream projects) but its still 
slowly moving forward.

If you are intersted in what is needed to be done check out the files docs/TODO 
and docs/todo-2.6 in the CVS tree. The second is a summary of the bugs/testing 
that plans to be done before the release of 2.6.

If your wanting 2.6 in the near future don't hold your breath, but it will 
eventally get released.

jaimos



Re: FVWM: Setting window title

2010-12-14 Thread Jason Timrod
hi Jaimos,

--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Jaimos Skriletz  wrote:

> Thomas clearly explains why it won't be applied. FVWM is in
> a feature freeze until 2.6 comes out. This is a new feature
> (not a bug fix). From the link you read:
> 
> "It's not really a bug fix per-se, hence why I've not
> committed it to CVS."
> 
> After 2.6 comes out and new features start being added
> again this or a modified version of this does sound like a
> useful new feature add.

what are the plans for the next release? is it near? i think ive read before 
about 2.6.0 but that was ages ago - how long must us users wait before a new 
release?

whats left to be done, and why isnt the cvs version released as 2.6 already? or 
am i missing something? :) who controls this process, and who can i talk to 
about helping out?

thanks,

Jason


  



Re: FVWM: Setting window title

2010-12-14 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 04:06:01PM -0800, Jason Timrod wrote:
> hi,
> 
> --- On Mon, 12/13/10, Thomas Adam  wrote:
> > Or if you're not tracking that, the email I sent out to the
> > mailing list:
> > 
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm-workers@fvwm.org/msg02316.html
> 
> this works really well! why wont it be applied? it solves my problem and i 
> know theres other people out there with the same issue!


Thomas clearly explains why it won't be applied. FVWM is in a feature freeze 
until 2.6 comes out. This is a new feature (not a bug fix). From the link you 
read:

"It's not really a bug fix per-se, hence why I've not committed it to CVS."

After 2.6 comes out and new features start being added again this or a modified 
version of this does sound like a useful new feature add.

jaimos



Re: FVWM: Setting window title

2010-12-14 Thread Jason Timrod
hi,

--- On Mon, 12/13/10, Thomas Adam  wrote:
> Or if you're not tracking that, the email I sent out to the
> mailing list:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm-workers@fvwm.org/msg02316.html

this works really well! why wont it be applied? it solves my problem and i know 
theres other people out there with the same issue!

thanks though!

Jason


  



Re: FVWM: Setting window title

2010-12-13 Thread Thomas Adam
[ Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to you. ]

On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 10:00:13AM -0800, Jason Timrod wrote:
> --- On Sun, 12/5/10, Thomas Adam  wrote:
> > It's not possible to set (in FVWM terms) the visible_name
> > of the window, no.
> > If you're lucky, some applications might respond to:
> > 
> > xprop -set WM_NAME some_new_title
> 
>
> i tried this with firefox - it didn't work. i dont like how the title
> changes everytime i go to a new page - i would rather it just said
> 'firefox'.

Well, unless there's some extension to Firefox to handle this, or some
esoteric setting in about:config, you're not going to solve this easily.

> Where do i submit feature requests for this? if I get what youre telling
> me, it is possible to do if fvwm is able to change this... visible_name
> value somehow?

It is.  But I won't commit the patch.  See:

https://github.com/ThomasAdam/fvwm/commit/71d3072ace3aa4359a2d16a1d36c25058098ef35

Or if you're not tracking that, the email I sent out to the mailing list:

http://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm-workers@fvwm.org/msg02316.html

> can you add this feature request somewhere please? i think it would be
> useful.

No need, it's already on my radar, although the use for me is for different
reasons, but would solve your problem.

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
"Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
not." -- Morrissey ("Girl Least Likely To" -- off of Viva Hate.)



Re: FVWM: Setting window title

2010-12-05 Thread Jason Timrod
--- On Sun, 12/5/10, Thomas Adam  wrote:
> It's not possible to set (in FVWM terms) the visible_name
> of the window, no.
> If you're lucky, some applications might respond to:
> 
> xprop -set WM_NAME some_new_title

i tried this with firefox - it didn't work. i dont like how the title changes 
everytime i go to a new page - i would rather it just said 'firefox'.

Where do i submit feature requests for this? if I get what youre telling me, it 
is possible to do if fvwm is able to change this... visible_name value somehow?

can you add this feature request somewhere please? i think it would be useful.

i didn't realise you were a developer - thank you for your hard work! and to 
others as well, i am really enjoying this wm.

Jason


  



Re: FVWM: Setting window title

2010-12-05 Thread Thomas Adam
On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 07:59:32AM -0800, Jason Timrod wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Some apps have options like "-title" or "-T" to set the title of windows.
> Not all apps have this tho - so how can i set the title of the window when
> the app doesnt have such an option?

It's not possible to set (in FVWM terms) the visible_name of the window, no.
If you're lucky, some applications might respond to:

xprop -set WM_NAME some_new_title

But it likely won't work for most of the apps you're referring to (they'd
likely alread have provided a -T or -title option anyway), and note that not
application have to respond to resetting WM_NAME anyway.

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
"Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
not." -- Morrissey ("Girl Least Likely To" -- off of Viva Hate.)