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Re: Off topic

2002-11-07 Thread Gary D. Adams

I've got a four-drive SCSI box. Works fine on my Supermac S900.

Gary

wappling wrote:

>RE; I should describe better,the device Im asking about is a seperate tower
>box and power supply that can be loaded with several hardrives allowing for
>easy switching from one to another from the desktop,and very useful when
>more than one OS is needed,I have seen them used in printing and graphic
>enviroments with PC's,and am hopeing they work with mac's? but I dont
>know,Ive not seen one specificaly marked for use with mac,,,?  thankyou in
>advance
>  
>


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Re: Strange Wallstreet Noise

2002-11-07 Thread wappling

RE; sorry but from your description,the list of possable problems is just
too long and may still not be it,a simple trick is if you have a length of
tubeing to use as aa stethescope to locate which component the sound is come
from,hope this helps.



> Wallstreet PDQ with 320 ram OS X 1.5
> 
> I was typing on the WS when it let out a high pitch
> noise ( I thought of 2001, A Space Odyssey) that
> lasted as long as it took me to save and shut down.
> Restarted and no problems. Several days ago heard a
> noise like something was shorting out. It appears
> something is about to blow. Only recent change was the
> addition of a USB PC Card. I have had problems with
> the left bay occasionally not making good contact with
> the battery where if I bump the computer while it is
> running on battery, it will shut down. Taking the
> battery out and putting it back in allows it to
> restart.
> 
> Other than aliens trying to contact me, has anybody
> got any ideas?
> 
> I'm on digest so my responses may be slow.
> 
> Thanks 
> Ben
> 


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Re: Off topic

2002-11-07 Thread wappling

RE; I should describe better,the device Im asking about is a seperate tower
box and power supply that can be loaded with several hardrives allowing for
easy switching from one to another from the desktop,and very useful when
more than one OS is needed,I have seen them used in printing and graphic
enviroments with PC's,and am hopeing they work with mac's? but I dont
know,Ive not seen one specificaly marked for use with mac,,,?  thankyou in
advance

> Hi, all May I ask if anyone is useing an external multiple hardive selector
> with a Mac? or are they PC only? thankyou in advance
> 


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Re: Gold star for Apple

2002-11-07 Thread John Wolfgang

That is a remarkable story, especially in light of my recent repair
experience with apple. Sent my wife's TiBook 550 in (via the local Apple
Store) for repairs to the CDRW and mainboard. In short, between myself and
the folks at the Apple store, this machine was sent in THREE times before
Apple was able to repair the unit. We were without the machine for two weeks
(which for a devoted Mac User, can be an eternity).

We sent the machine in to Apple (and paid the premium repair price) so that
we could be sure it was done correctly and quickly -- the "peace of mind"
factor. Hm...

Apple did apologize and gave us a 128 MB SODIMM bank. A retail value of
something like $20.

Just wanted to put in my $0.02 before the Apple love fest gets out of hand
:)

John Wolfgang

On 11/7/02 3:03 PM, "Peter Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey all - thought I'd share:
> I ordered a repair on my PB FW 500 from Apple, after warranty, typical
> pricing $329+, and I was waiting on shipping materials to arrive. They never
> did. Expecting them Monday, I called today (Thursday) and after some serious
> hold, transfer, hold, transfer I finally was told that Airborne Express had
> not received the feed from Apple regarding my shipping needs. It looked like
> another 4-5 days before receiving the shipping materials. I asked about
> having my shipping fees ($20) removed from the service/repair ticket and she
> had to go ask a manager. Upon returning she informed me that Apple will be
> picking up the entire repair tab in response to their mistake and delay - no
> charge. Woohoo! That made my day!
> 
> Thanks for being a great company when I needed it Apple. I'll remember this.
> 
> I'll report to the list after the repair. Hopefully on the wireless access
> point and airport card I'm gonna buy with my freed-up funds.
> 
> stein
> 
> 

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Strange Wallstreet Noise

2002-11-07 Thread Ben Woodard

Wallstreet PDQ with 320 ram OS X 1.5

I was typing on the WS when it let out a high pitch
noise ( I thought of 2001, A Space Odyssey) that
lasted as long as it took me to save and shut down.
Restarted and no problems. Several days ago heard a
noise like something was shorting out. It appears
something is about to blow. Only recent change was the
addition of a USB PC Card. I have had problems with
the left bay occasionally not making good contact with
the battery where if I bump the computer while it is
running on battery, it will shut down. Taking the
battery out and putting it back in allows it to
restart.

Other than aliens trying to contact me, has anybody
got any ideas?

I'm on digest so my responses may be slow.

Thanks 
Ben


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Re: Jaguar reluctant to go back...

2002-11-07 Thread Byron Gardner

Not on a WallStreet...newer PB only.

on 11/6/02 6:53 PM, Jeff Szuhay at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> I just installed Jaguar in my Wallstreet today and am faced with
>> the problem that my Wallstreet is now reluctant to boot up using OS
>> 9.2.2.  The Jaguar is on the first 7 GB of my 25 GB hard drive, and OS
>> 9.2.2 on the second 7 GB.  Whenever I change the startup drive to the
>> partition with OS 9.2.2, the Wallstreet  insists on booting up using
>> Jaguar, this despite my trying to lock the second (OS 9.2.2) partition
>> as the startup drive.
> 
> Hold down the "option" key as the system starts up. It will then search
> for all bootable drives, regardless of OS and give you the chance to
> choose which one to boot into.
> 
> 8-)
> 
> 
> In everyone's life, at some time, our inner fire goes out.
> It is then burst into flame by an encounter with another human being.
> We should all be thankful for those people who rekindle the inner
> spirit.
> -- Albert Schweitzer, philosopher, physician, and musician
> (1875-1965)
> 
> 


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Re: Gold star for Apple

2002-11-07 Thread Gary Adams

Wow! That's great. I amazed some PC people with the turnaround (under 
Applecare) of my son's iBook with a dead screen. Shipped it out on 
Wednesday at noon and got it back Friday about 10 am. Apple is doing 
some good things.

Gary
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 02:03  PM, Peter Stein wrote:

> Hey all - thought I'd share:
> I ordered a repair on my PB FW 500 from Apple, after warranty, typical
> pricing $329+, and I was waiting on shipping materials to arrive. They 
> never
> did. Expecting them Monday, I called today (Thursday) and after some 
> serious
> hold, transfer, hold, transfer I finally was told that Airborne 
> Express had
> not received the feed from Apple regarding my shipping needs. It 
> looked like
> another 4-5 days before receiving the shipping materials. I asked about
> having my shipping fees ($20) removed from the service/repair ticket 
> and she
> had to go ask a manager. Upon returning she informed me that Apple 
> will be
> picking up the entire repair tab in response to their mistake and 
> delay - no
> charge. Woohoo! That made my day!
>
> Thanks for being a great company when I needed it Apple. I'll remember 
> this.
>
> I'll report to the list after the repair. Hopefully on the wireless 
> access
> point and airport card I'm gonna buy with my freed-up funds.
>
> stein


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Re: Jaguar reluctant to go back...

2002-11-07 Thread Jeremy Derr


On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 10:19 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

> on 06/11/02 22:23, Jeff Hubatka at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
 I just installed Jaguar in my Wallstreet today and am faced with
 the problem that my Wallstreet is now reluctant to boot up using OS
 9.2.2.  The Jaguar is on the first 7 GB of my 25 GB hard drive, and 
 OS
 9.2.2 on the second 7 GB.  Whenever I change the startup drive to 
 the
 partition with OS 9.2.2, the Wallstreet  insists on booting up using
 Jaguar, this despite my trying to lock the second (OS 9.2.2) 
 partition
 as the startup drive.
>>>
>>> Hold down the "option" key as the system starts up. It will then 
>>> search
>>> for all bootable drives, regardless of OS and give you the chance to
>>> choose which one to boot into.
>> The Wallstreet doesn't support the Startup Manager (or is it the 
>> other way
>> around?), so the option key doesn't work with this model. Mine either.
>>
>
> That's because the Wallstreet doesn't have OpenFirmware.

well no, the Wallstreet has open firmware. Open Firmware is on all 
Macs with G3's or better, and even some 604 machines (9600, i think, 
had Open Firmware).

The Startup Manager is just an Open Firmware application. It requires 
OS 9 or better, a machine with an AGP graphics chipset, and (if 
applicable) any relevant firmware updates.


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Gold star for Apple

2002-11-07 Thread Peter Stein

Hey all - thought I'd share:
I ordered a repair on my PB FW 500 from Apple, after warranty, typical
pricing $329+, and I was waiting on shipping materials to arrive. They never
did. Expecting them Monday, I called today (Thursday) and after some serious
hold, transfer, hold, transfer I finally was told that Airborne Express had
not received the feed from Apple regarding my shipping needs. It looked like
another 4-5 days before receiving the shipping materials. I asked about
having my shipping fees ($20) removed from the service/repair ticket and she
had to go ask a manager. Upon returning she informed me that Apple will be
picking up the entire repair tab in response to their mistake and delay - no
charge. Woohoo! That made my day!

Thanks for being a great company when I needed it Apple. I'll remember this.

I'll report to the list after the repair. Hopefully on the wireless access
point and airport card I'm gonna buy with my freed-up funds.

stein



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Re: Jaguar reluctant to go back...

2002-11-07 Thread Heok Hee Ng

Hi Jim,

Tried what you suggested, but still no go.  What happened was
exactly as you described.  I got a happy mac, followed by an instant reboot
into Jaguar.  Looks like putting OS 9.2.2 on the second partition (instead
of the first with Jaguar) may have something to do with it, as someone else
suggested.  Oh well, I'll consider this a lesson learned (just a minor
inconvenience anyway) and will be putting Jaguar on a separate hard drive
(instead of on just a separate partition of my primary drive) on my beige
DT.
Thanks for the advice anyway.

Heok Hee


Jim wrote:

> Dear Jeff & Heok,
>
> I, too, have experienced this problem, usually after an OS 9 or classic
> crash.  Typically I will set my Pismo to startup on OS 9, but when
> booting, shortly after the first "happy mac" it will RE-boot, and start
> up in X.  This began happening after installing 10.1, and continues in
> 10.2.  The only solution for me was to do the following, in sequence:
> (1) In X, open the "startup disk" panel of system preferences, and
> choose the OS9 volume; (2) open the "classic" panel of system
> preferences, and click the "advanced" tab; (3) click "rebuild desktop"
> and wait while it rebuilds the desktop on the chosen startup disk; (4)
> close the "system preferences" app and restart the Mac.On at least
> one occasion, after booting up 9 in this way, OS 9 proceeded to rebuild
> the desktops again!  But all worked fine... until the next time when I
> needed to repeat this rigamarole all over again.  This procedure is
> what you have to do when you discover that holding down "option" during
> startup doesn't give you the choice of booting from your OS 9 disk.


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Re: Jaguar reluctant to go back...

2002-11-07 Thread Jim

From: Jeff Szuhay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote:

>>I just installed Jaguar in my Wallstreet today and am faced 
>> with
>> the problem that my Wallstreet is now reluctant to boot up using OS
>> 9.2.2.  The Jaguar is on the first 7 GB of my 25 GB hard drive, and OS
>> 9.2.2 on the second 7 GB.  Whenever I change the startup drive to the
>> partition with OS 9.2.2, the Wallstreet  insists on booting up using
>> Jaguar, this despite my trying to lock the second (OS 9.2.2) partition
>> as the startup drive.
>
> Hold down the "option" key as the system starts up. It will then search
> for all bootable drives, regardless of OS and give you the chance to
> choose which one to boot into.


Dear Jeff & Heok,

I, too, have experienced this problem, usually after an OS 9 or classic 
crash.  Typically I will set my Pismo to startup on OS 9, but when 
booting, shortly after the first "happy mac" it will RE-boot, and start 
up in X.  This began happening after installing 10.1, and continues in 
10.2.  The only solution for me was to do the following, in sequence: 
(1) In X, open the "startup disk" panel of system preferences, and 
choose the OS9 volume; (2) open the "classic" panel of system 
preferences, and click the "advanced" tab; (3) click "rebuild desktop" 
and wait while it rebuilds the desktop on the chosen startup disk; (4) 
close the "system preferences" app and restart the Mac.On at least 
one occasion, after booting up 9 in this way, OS 9 proceeded to rebuild 
the desktops again!  But all worked fine... until the next time when I 
needed to repeat this rigamarole all over again.  This procedure is 
what you have to do when you discover that holding down "option" during 
startup doesn't give you the choice of booting from your OS 9 disk.

--Jim.


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Re: 99% charge

2002-11-07 Thread Tim Gilman

>Hal at 11/7/02 (maybe):
>Anyone had luck with resetting the power manager to try to
>fix this?

I've got a Pismo/500, and when I first installed 10.2 I got the same
behavior where the battery indicator said "Calculating...".

However, a few weeks ago it stopped, and now when the battery is fully
charged the indicator just says "100%".

Maybe discharging/recharging your battery might do something good.
That's pretty much all I've done.

=- Tim
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Re: 99% charge

2002-11-07 Thread Hal

Anyone had luck with resetting the power manager to try to fix this?

On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 09:05 PM, P. Turtle-Bear Guillermo 
wrote:

> On 11/2/2002 2:20 PM Kevin Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, Nov 2, 2002, at 12:52 US/Pacific, Peter Graening wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to chime on on this, because it's been happening to me too.
>>> It's
>>> mostly a cosmetic flaw, as far as I can tell. It is distracting to 
>>> see
>>> "Calculating..." when the battery is at 100% and isn't charging, so 
>>> it
>>> should say "Plugged In."  However, Kevin says he's on a Pismo 500.
>>> Jim was
>>> on a 400.  I'm on a 400.  Could there be some teeny-tiny difference
>>> between
>>> the two?  It is a bit disturbing, but not a life-or-death issue...


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Re: Off topic

2002-11-07 Thread Hal

I use a Dr.Bott Moniswitch USB to switch keyboard mouse and video. I 
have it hooked up to a G4 cube and a Pismo powerbook. Accessories are 
an Apple Pro keyboard, Apple Studio Display (vga lcd version) and 
kensington optical mouse.

On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 12:07 AM, wappling wrote:

> Hi, all May I ask if anyone is useing an external multiple hardive 
> selector
> with a Mac? or are they PC only? thankyou in advance
>
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Re: Pismo acting a little on the lazy side

2002-11-07 Thread Nick

Ahhh another victim of the lousy Pismo power adapter.  Apple should do
something about that!  Iit's not normal having to replace that power adapter
every couple of years or so...

N



on 11/7/02 12:41 AM, Bonnie Mellott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Well,  I feel silly now.  I just discovered that the
> cord coming out of the power brick is starting to
> break in half.  I fumbled with it some and taped it
> together, which cured my problem.  Thanks for the
> advice everyone, I'm going to pick up a replacement
> adapter tomorrow.
> 
> --- Joe Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I suspect your problem is your battery, you said it
>> was fully discharged;
>> the Pismo will do strange things with a bad battery.
>> If it's fully
>> discharged and going to sleep you may also be
>> discharging the PRAM battery
>> to a point where it won't support sleep mode.
>> 
>> Joe Ellis
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/6/02 8:43 PM, "Bonnie Mellott"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> One more update, now it's not even sleeping, it's
>> just
>>> off.  Turning it back on seems hopeless now.  If
>> it
>>> doesn't work by the morning, I guess I will have
>> it
>>> looked at by someone at a repair place.  Nothing I
>>> find on the web is helping me find any kind of
>>> solution.
>>> 
>>> --- George Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
 On Wednesday, Nov 6, 2002, at 20:32 US/Eastern,
 George Gunderson wrote:
 
> 
> On Wednesday, Nov 6, 2002, at 19:23 US/Eastern,
 Bonnie Mellott wrote:
>> 
>> Anyway, there's more.  I figure it was about
>> 1:30
 when
>> I got it to turn on.  I worked on it for a
>> couple
>> hours, left for a couple hours, and came back
>> and
>> worked some more.  It's 7:30 now.  A few
>> minutes
 ago,
>> I was using the pismo and it just went to sleep
 out of
>> the blue.  It refuses to wake up, restart or
>> turn
 off.
>>  It is still plugged into the wall.  By the
>> way,
 my
>> battery is no good at all anymore.
>> 
> I can add that my Pismo has died like that
 overnight a couple of
> times, while there was still charge in the
 battery.  I woke up in the
> morning, tried to wake up my Pismo and it was
>> out
 for the count.
> Pressing the power button did start it up
>> properly
 and without 
> argument.  Startup did take a long time, hanging
 on the startup screen
> with the little circle moving.  Is that the hard
 disk being 
> checked/repaired from shutting down
>> spontaneously?
> 
 Oops...forgot to say that the drive is a 40gig...
 
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Re: Jaguar reluctant to go back...

2002-11-07 Thread Luis Sequeira

>
>Hi Listers,
>
> I just installed Jaguar in my Wallstreet today and am faced with
>the problem that my Wallstreet is now reluctant to boot up using OS
>9.2.2.  The Jaguar is on the first 7 GB of my 25 GB hard drive, and OS
>9.2.2 on the second 7 GB.  Whenever I change the startup drive to the
>partition with OS 9.2.2, the Wallstreet  insists on booting up using
>Jaguar, this despite my trying to lock the second (OS 9.2.2) partition
>as the startup drive.
> Anyone knows how to work around this problem?  I don't really
>need to run OS 9.2.2 at the moment, but I need to transfer data from my
>desktop (a 7500/G3 running OS 9.1) to the Wallstreet via Appletalk.  I
>could always burn the data on to a CD and then transfer to the
>Wallstreet, but I don't really want to waste the time and the CD doing
>so (burner in the 7500/G3 is extremely slow).
>
>Heok Hee


What exactly do you mean by "via Appletalk"? Jaguar handles Appletalk 
on your Wallstreet ethernet port just fine. If you mean using the 
localtalk (aka printer/modem port) on your wallstreet, then probably 
it does not work in Jaguar. But an ethernet cable is quite 
inexpensive and ethernet transfers are way faster than localtalk, so 
that would be the way to go. I am pretty sure the 7500 has an 
ethernet port (correct me if I'm wrong).

In summary, you can perfectly well network your Wallstreet running 
Jaguar to the 7500 running 9.1, no need to use 9.2.2 for that.

In the Finder, click Go->Connect to server and your 7500 should be there.


Now going back to why you have trouble booting 9.2.2, that may have 
to do with the 8 GB problem. It is widely known that OS X in a 
Wallstreet must start from a partition totally within the first 8GB 
of the hard disk; though you're trying to use 9.2.2, you're selecting 
that startup partition from within X. I'm not sure if that's it, but 
I would try installing 9.x in the first partition and see if it 
matters.

On my Wallstreet there is also a strange beahavior that may be 
related to yours. I have two partitions that each contain a 9.1 
system folder, but each time I select one of them as the startup from 
within Jaguar, the mac starts up from the *other* (nonselected) 9.1 
partition. Weird.

Luis

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Re: Downgrade from 9.2 - 9.1

2002-11-07 Thread Jon Glass

on 11/7/02 3:26 AM, Ted Burford at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> What is the best way to Downgrade from 9.2  - 9.1?

I'll tell you what I did, and I never had any problems.

I found my system disk that came with my Pismo. On the CD is a disk image of
my hard drive as it shipped from the factory. On that disk image is the
system folder.

I simply took my 9.2 folder, removed its finder, renamed it "System Folder
9.2", and then copied over the pristine System folder from the CD's disk
image.

Once the OS 9.0.4 System folder was on my hard drive, I pulled out a CD I
have that has the 9.1 update on it, and I ran the intaller. Once I was back
to 9.1, I went to my 9.2 folder, and dragged out the preferences folder, and
all the third-party stuff I wanted and needed.

I did that by doing a careful comparison of the two system folders, nested
folder by folder, comparing what was in each. I also used labels to label
everything I wanted to keep, and then I _copied_ (not moved) each item I
wanted back in 9.1 to the new system folder. I copied by holding down the
option key while dragging the icons.

When I was done, I rebooted with the "new" older system, and it worked fine.
I ran like this for several months, and never had any real problems. When
9.2.2 came along, I went to that, and haven't looked back. I had a problem
with an AppleScript Addition, but that was my only problem with 9.2. (which
I only found out later...)

In my mind, that is the simplest way to do it, so saying you have that disk
image. If you don't then you can do a "clean install" which will leave your
current System folder intact.
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2002-11-07 Thread wappling

Hi, all May I ask if anyone is useing an external multiple hardive selector
with a Mac? or are they PC only? thankyou in advance


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