Re: Panther won't boot -> shell

[Kochkodin]

Likewise Kudo's for DW...We had 2 partitions on this imac se 400 and had 
been running 9.2.2 on one and Jag X on the otherNorton 6.0.3 had 
been working great on the 9.2.2 then somehow it crosslinked files into 
the OS X and really screwed everything up on both partitionsAt one 
point last July it was taking over 1/2 hr to get booted up into 9.2.2 
It keep giving me the blinking disk...ie the smile of death for the 
hd...Luckily I got to Philadelphia that weekend and got DW at the 
CompUSA there.  When I got home and started to run it, it took about 2 
to 3 hrs to run but it did fix everything eventually and I haven't used 
Norton since...Don't know about any later release of it...We were 
fortunate to have gotten the 30 gig iPod right before the mess occured 
and were able to back up the entire 9.2.2 stuff to it via FW target 
mode...Reformatted entire 60gig Maxtor hd and started over...I run DW 
about every 2 weeks or so, along w/ Panther utitlity repair permissions 
etc on the 10.3 partition.
Regards,
Mike

Tom Ethen wrote:

DiskWarrior has always worked for me and has straightened out many a problem
and has never made things worse. Norton will also work on many problems, but
will eventually find a problem it can not fix, but it will give it a try
anyway, making things so messed up that nothing can repair the drive.
Tom

Disk Warrior has never corrected a problem for me (and never messed up),
Norton yes (corrected + messed)



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Re: Panther won't boot -> shell

[Tom Ethen]

DiskWarrior has always worked for me and has straightened out many a problem
and has never made things worse. Norton will also work on many problems, but
will eventually find a problem it can not fix, but it will give it a try
anyway, making things so messed up that nothing can repair the drive.

Tom

Disk Warrior has never corrected a problem for me (and never messed up),
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Re: Panther won't boot -> shell

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 21/01/04 21:21, gf sciacca at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I also suspect that archive and install won't work, so I'm going ahead
> with a clean install, after backing up the book in FireWire mode
> 
> My question to the list now is (perhaps I should have changed the
> subject?):
> I've read many bad accounts about Norton Utilities, is it really that bad?
> I have used regularly the antivirus and defrag on my powerbook for over a
> year now and occasionally the doctor and this is really the first time it
> messes up (it was Utilities 6.0.3 for OS 9) and it messed up a freshely
> set-up partition with no fancy installs on it (FileSaver started already
> to report problems even before I could switch it off as I do usually right
> after a fresh install). I'd like to hear some opinions and what are the
> possible alternative for disc maintenance and repair?
> 
> Many speak well of Disk Warrior, but the few times I ran it to correct
> problems, it would always report problems, tell me they were corrected,
> only to report and correct the same problems again if I launched it right
> after it finished its first repair. Disk Warrior has never corrected a
> problem for me (and never messed up), Norton yes (corrected + messed)

Well, I think that your main problem is that you used version 6.0.3 which
is, according to the above, for OS 9. If that version was specifically
written for OS 9, then it is quite possible (I don't know for sure since
I've never used it, and I'm doing fine, thank you) that it couldn't
understand some stuff from the OS X partition, like symbolic links. You
could maybe try to use a version for OS X, but, again, I have been running
OS X on 2 different computers since the original OS X public beta back in
2001 and never had any problems that I couldn't fix without the tools I had,
i.e. OS X Disk Utility. Even if I had serious problems that Disk Utility
could not fix, I wouldn't trust any utility to fix them; I would just backup
my stuff, then do a format and re-install. That's why I have 3 partitions on
my Pismo: one for the OS X system disk, one for OS 9 system disk and a last
one for all the remaining stuff. Everything I install that doesn't require
to be in /Applications or /Applications/Utilities, or on the system disk in
general, I put on the 3rd partition. So, in the event that something goes
really wrong, I usually only have to backup my home directory on an external
firewire disk, reformat and reinstall OS X. That way, I'm always sure that
everything in the system is clean. I had to do that maybe 2 or 3 times since
I've been running OS X, and that is on 2 different computers, my PowerBook
Pismo and my Blue & White G4...

Just my $0.02...

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Re: Panther won't boot -> shell

[gf sciacca]

I also suspect that archive and install won't work, so I'm going ahead
with a clean install, after backing up the book in FireWire mode

My question to the list now is (perhaps I should have changed the
subject?):
I've read many bad accounts about Norton Utilities, is it really that bad?
I have used regularly the antivirus and defrag on my powerbook for over a
year now and occasionally the doctor and this is really the first time it
messes up (it was Utilities 6.0.3 for OS 9) and it messed up a freshely
set-up partition with no fancy installs on it (FileSaver started already
to report problems even before I could switch it off as I do usually right
after a fresh install). I'd like to hear some opinions and what are the
possible alternative for disc maintenance and repair?

Many speak well of Disk Warrior, but the few times I ran it to correct
problems, it would always report problems, tell me they were corrected,
only to report and correct the same problems again if I launched it right
after it finished its first repair. Disk Warrior has never corrected a
problem for me (and never messed up), Norton yes (corrected + messed)

cheers, gianfranco

> > I'm not even sure if install & archive would cure this?
> >
> > thanks for anay help, gianfranco
> >
> >> It looks like Norton did screw up your OS X partition...
> >>
> >> -Laurent.
>
> I'm not sure how you could go about that. Try recovering your home folder if
> you can. If it is a laptop, you could try to use it in FireWire mode from
> another Mac. Then, I'm afraid you will have to do a full install. You could
> try the archive and install, but I'm not sure it will work as it seems that
> the OS is expecting directories where it finds files and vice versa...
>
> -Laurent.

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Re: G3/900 for Pismo?

[Jason Long]

I made the upgrade back in November and am quite happy with it. I got about 
a 30% increase in database processing speed and would do it again. However 
it did take about two weeks before I got my processor back. I'd bought one 
off ebay to use in the meantime, and later sold it for over twice as much as 
I paid for it!

Jason

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so. . where's the beef?

[Melvin Watts]

There's been  a lot of talk concerning IBM and the release of their 
750GX, G3 processor which is supposed to replace the 750FX G3 chip, 
running at speeds of 1.1ghz and above,  including a 1mb L2 cache. . 
.has anyone heard the lates on this? Can anyone direct me to an updated 
link?

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Re: Apple iBook G4 or PowerBook G4?

[David George Hogg]

Sweet, thats the model I would get.
David.
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Subject: Re: Apple iBook G4 or PowerBook G4?


> The TiBook may look nice when you get it, but maybe not so nice after a 
> while.  TiBooks have a problem with scratches (one of my friends has 
> one and all around the palm rest on the case there are scratches, just 
> from normal use.  he is very displeased).  Also, there is the problem 
> with AirPort (that is, if you are going to use AirPort)  the titanium 
> case blocks the signals more on the Tibook than any other powerbook or 
> iBook (the iBook appears to be the best with airport).  I speak proudly 
> of the iBook G4 (I am typing from mine right here)  I purchased the 
> low-end G4 powerbook just for the added G4 power (iBook g4 800Mhz 12" 
> but no airport card) and it works quite nicely.  Though, I don't think 
> you can go wrong either way.
> 
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> 
> On Jan 20, 2004, at 7:42 PM, Frank P. Eigler wrote:
> 
> > Three thumbs up for the TiBook. I've had mine for just over half a year
> > and I love it.
> >
> > One comment - get the fastest one you can (1GHz) I think, and with a 
> > combo
> > drive (if you need it). It sometimes feels a bit slow (maybe due to the
> > 4200 drive?). Aside from RAM, PowerBook after market is .
> >
> > Since the Airport issue will come up - I've had no problems from the 
> > front
> > yard to the back (appx 150'+;Belkin wireless router on the second 
> > floor,
> > near the rear of the building; regular airport card installed). Oh 
> > yeah -
> > get the airport card included if you can ;-)
> >
> > .and get a set of screen protectors. They're highly reflective, but I 
> > was
> > s annoyed at seeing keyboard marks on the screen all the time.
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, David George Hogg wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >> I am considering buying a new G4 laptop, I am either going to get 
> >> a used
> >> TiBook G4 15.2" or a new iBook G4, could anyone with experience of 
> >> either of
> >> these machines provide me with some info. I know the iBook is faster 
> >> but I
> >> really like the look of the TiBook, and an AlBook is too  before 
> >> anyone
> >> asks.
> >> David.
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Re: G3/900 for Pismo?

[Melvin Watts]

Unless your doing graphic intensive apps or video processing I wouldn't 
worry too  much about  altivec. . .  anyway,  I hear that the 
powerlogix's G3/900MHZ processor cards, ironic though it may seem,  is 
actually faster than the G4/500MHZ according to some bench test.

check out this link:
http://www.powerlogix.com/products2/bcg3pismo/
I have a G3/500MHZ Pismo that I bought from a guy oversees, well taken 
of I might add. .
and it's the best mobile unit that I've ever had. . I have no desire at 
all to upgrade to another computer. Oh, and another thing, the only  
reason why I have not upgraded to the Blue Chip Pismo card from 
Powerlogix is because I'm a little unsure about heat issues. . as you 
know that powerbooks run a little warm anyway, and with a faster chip. 
. well, I'm just not sure. You might need to checkout some bench test 
before you buy.

-MW .

On Wednesday, January 21, 2004, at 03:01  PM, Marc wrote:

I'm considering this upgrade, can some recommend this(or advise 
against it). I don't really need the Altivec(I think) and I've already 
maxed out the memory and gotten a new disk. Are there any other 
upgrades I sould look at?

I love my Pismo too much to trade her in if I don't really have to.

Any advice is welcome.

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G3/900 for Pismo?

[Marc]

I'm considering this upgrade, can some recommend this(or advise against 
it). I don't really need the Altivec(I think) and I've already maxed 
out the memory and gotten a new disk. Are there any other upgrades I 
sould look at?

I love my Pismo too much to trade her in if I don't really have to.

Any advice is welcome.

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Re: 802.11G pccard?

[Marc]

Thanx for the tip. I have Panther installed and will go for the Linksys 
card which is pretty cheap and available here.

Marc

Op 21-jan-04 om 14:31 heeft Mitch Hogg het volgende geschreven:

On 1/20/04 5:16 PM, Marc wrote:

Can someone recommend a 802.11G pccard to be used in a Pismo 
Powerbook?
All I can find here(Netherlands) only have Wintel-drivers.
Marc,

You don't mention what operating system you're using, so I'm going to 
assume
it's X. Since the introduction of Airport 3.1.1 in June of last year, 
Jaguar
supports the use of any third-party g card based on the Broadcom 
chipset.
There's no special driver; just plug in the card and Jaguar will treat 
it
like an Airport Extreme. (Details can be found at
.)

PCMCIA cards that use the Broadcom chipset include BuffaloTech, 
Linksys and
Belkin, among others (a comprehensive list can be found at
). I'm using a 
Linksys
WPC54G, and it's worked perfectly on my Wallstreet since the day I 
bought
it, and no extra drivers were necessary.

As I said, this solution only works under Jaguar or later. If you've 
got an
earlier system, you're probably going to have to find something that 
comes
with Mac drivers.

Hope this helps,

Mitch.

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Re: OSX won't let me boot OS9

[Jim]

Timothy,

I have a Wallstreet 266 mhz and I finally got a big enough hard drive
for something besides OS9.  I put OS9 on the second partition, then
installed OSX on the first partition of 7.5 gigs, and after that it
wouldn't let me boot into OS9.  What am I doing wrong?
I have found that from time to time it is necessary to rebuild the 
classic desktop from within OS X, before X will let you boot up into 9. 
 This is what you need to do, starting within OS X, with nothing else 
running.  You may want to print this out:

1. Open System Preferences (from the Apple Menu)
2. Click on "Startup Disk" in System Preferences Panel.
3. Click on the System 9 folder that you want to eventually start up 
from*. DO NOT click "restart" at this point.
4. Click on the "show all" button a the top; when asked if you are sure 
you want to change the startup disk, click the "change" button to 
proceed.
5. Click on the "Classic" button in the system preferences window.
6. Wait a moment, then be sure the same system folder that you 
previously designated as the startup disk is now selected in the list 
of classic system folders.  DO NOT click "start".
7. Click on the "advanced" tab in the Classic window.
8. Click on the "rebuild desktop" button at the bottom of the window, 
and allow the process to finish.
9. Now quit the System Preferences.
10. Restart your Mac.  You can hold down the "option" key at the very 
beginning of startup, to bring up a window allowing you to choose what 
system to boot into.  I find that occasionally I will choose the System 
9 partition, but during startup it will switch to X.  This problem is 
invariably solved by rebuilding the Classic desktop, as instructed 
above.

*If the System 9 folder doesn't appear here, it means you do not have a 
valid System 9 startup folder.  This may be an issue of "blessing" the 
system folder, for which you need to start up from a System 9 CD, then 
open the unblessed system folder, and "get info" on the system and 
finder.  Then restart under X and continue with the above steps.

I hope this helps you, or other listreaders.

-Jim.

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Re: Panther won't boot -> shell

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 21/01/04 12:43, "gf sciacca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> any idea about how to recover without having to re-install? Since I have
> access to the partition via the shell when trying to boot on it, there's
> perhaps a simple way?
> 
> Two more things:
> 
> Files on /private/etc/ (such as the affected
> master.passwd) are hidden files and I can't access them booting from
> another partiton.
> 
> In another machine (running Jaguar) I can Change Dir to
> /private/etc/ and access the files from Terminal, but in this case I can't
> CD or list them, as I get the mentioned error
> 
> I'm not even sure if install & archive would cure this?
> 
> thanks for anay help, gianfranco
> 
>> It looks like Norton did screw up your OS X partition...
>> 
>> -Laurent.

I'm not sure how you could go about that. Try recovering your home folder if
you can. If it is a laptop, you could try to use it in FireWire mode from
another Mac. Then, I'm afraid you will have to do a full install. You could
try the archive and install, but I'm not sure it will work as it seems that
the OS is expecting directories where it finds files and vice versa...

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Re: Panther won't boot -> shell

[gf sciacca]

any idea about how to recover without having to re-install? Since I have
access to the partition via the shell when trying to boot on it, there's
perhaps a simple way?

Two more things:

Files on /private/etc/ (such as the affected
master.passwd) are hidden files and I can't access them booting from
another partiton.

In another machine (running Jaguar) I can Change Dir to
/private/etc/ and access the files from Terminal, but in this case I can't
CD or list them, as I get the mentioned error

I'm not even sure if install & archive would cure this?

thanks for anay help, gianfranco

> It looks like Norton did screw up your OS X partition...
>
> -Laurent.

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Re: Buying an iBook.. Qualification Correction

[Paul Nicholson]

Well, then how many kids have money and credit cards. Do you think 
Apple is going to disqualify students because their parents have to pay 
for it?

On Jan 21, 2004, at 6:23 AM, Thomas Ethen wrote:

The parent issue doesn't make any sense, as then almost everyone would
qualify for an educational discount.
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Re: Buying an iBook.. Qualification Correction

[Kochkodin]

All I know is that it worked for me and several others...Ask and ye 
shall receive...Many people aren't aware of the program and will just 
buy w/out ever thinking of asking..The idea is to get as much kit into 
as many new hands as possibleConsidering that(if my latest info is 
correct) the margin for Apple is around 25% the idea of taking $100-$200 
off in order to get someone to buy a system, printer etc is very 
effective.. There MAY be a restriction dealing w/laptops since the 
demand is so high.. (again...Supply vs Demand)  Just wanted to offer a 
friendly, helpful suggestion..Used enough space here..
Gotta run..
Regards,
Mike

Thomas Ethen wrote:

The parent issue doesn't make any sense, as then almost everyone would
qualify for an educational discount.
Tom

on 1/21/04 8:00, Kochkodin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Also...If you ask as a parent...you will qualify...I  did it as a parent
for an elem student and did it last year as a school board member and my
wife did it as a teacherMy middle son bought as a high school senior
on his own account...If in doubt...call and ask
Regards,
Mike





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Re: Buying an iBook.. Qualification Correction

[Thomas Ethen]

The parent issue doesn't make any sense, as then almost everyone would
qualify for an educational discount.

Tom

on 1/21/04 8:00, Kochkodin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Also...If you ask as a parent...you will qualify...I  did it as a parent
> for an elem student and did it last year as a school board member and my
> wife did it as a teacherMy middle son bought as a high school senior
> on his own account...If in doubt...call and ask
> Regards,
> Mike


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Re: Buying an iBook.. Qualification Correction

[Kochkodin]

It may well have been that they wouldn't deal since the ibooks were the 
brand new rage at the time and they wanted to keep the upper price 
level...(supply vs demand)  I had bought as a parent first then 18 
months later I did it as a board member...Maybe it depends on the sales 
agent that you get???
Anyway...The point is to call and ask and stress that you are in the ed 
field...There MAY be a possible restriction on the sale of the brand new 
top of line...but if you don't call and ask you will never know..
BTW.. My school district is in west/central PA and we have 2 mac labs in 
the library using imac's...Later..
Regards,
Mike

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We HAVE called and asked...our school was one of the first to get an iBook
lab when they first came out an many parents were interested. We tried
negotiating with Apple given the excitement the iBooks caused in the
community. No go. So, are you sure you didn't qualify because you were a
board member? Or quite possibly you simply lucked out because they thought
you were still a board member?


Also...If you ask as a parent...you will qualify...I  did it as a parent
for an elem student and did it last year as a school board member and my
wife did it as a teacherMy middle son bought as a high school senior
on his own account...If in doubt...call and ask
Regards,
Mike
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Direct from Apple's website:

Who is eligible to purchase?
K-12 Education 
Any employee of a K-12 institution in the United States is eligible to
purchase through the Apple Store for Education Individuals. School board
members who are currently serving as elected or appointed members are
eligible. PTA or PTO executives currently serving as elected or appointed
officers are eligible. Qualified homeschools are also eligible.

david

On 1/21/04 8:33 AM, "Kochkodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



You are incorrect SIR!!!ANY Student qualifies for the ed
price..Public, private, or charter.As well ass ALL faculty/staff
including secretarial, maintenance etc. administration and board of
director members... A Parent of any student CAN and MAY purchase at the
ed price as long as they provide the school name,addy, etc. required by
Apple Ed sales dept.I KNOW this is true because I have bought as a
Parent and as a school board member and have friends that bought as
staff membersThe prices were about $100-250 below retail..depending
on the systems.  I forget the exact quantities of kit that may be
purchased annually by such a personYou can get all the latest info
by calling the Apple Ed Sales dept...
HTH...Regards,
Mike K
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 1/19/04 5:32 PM, "Paul Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Hi,

Are you a student? Do you have a child who is a student? Do you know a
student? Do you know someone who knows a srudent? The educational
discount knocks a couple hundred or so clams off the price. I'd look
into buying a new one with a student discount.
By student, of course, he means college student. The education price is not
available to k12 students.


~~~
"The past tempts us, the present confuses us, and the future frightens
us...and our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast,
terrible in-between."
  -- Centauri emperor, "The Coming of Shadows"


~~~
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us...and our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast,
terrible in-between."
   -- Centauri emperor, "The Coming of Shadows"



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Re: Printing from Wallstreet in Jaguar?

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 21/01/04 04:02, Mike Turner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On 20/1/04 21:30, Paul Stamsen said:
> 
>> Mike Turner stated:
>> 
>> -> I bought on eBay a LocalTalk network
>> -> adapter for the Stylus Color 500 and a LocalTalk-Ethernet bridge box.
>> -> This, plus the Epson standard network print driver, gave me a network
>> -> printer accessible to all ethernet equipped Macs.
>> 
>> What does one ask eBay to look for if one should want one of these (for a
>> HP)?
> 
> I assume you mean a Ethernet-LocalTalk bridge, not a printer network
> interface card? You have anHP printer with no ethernet interface, just a
> LocalTalk network connection? This setup doesn't work with a purely
> serial printer.
> 
> There are several different devices that will bridge between Ethernet and
> LocalTalk networks.
> 
> The one that I have had experience of is the Dayna Mini EtherPrint. It
> works transparently. Just plug in an ethernet cable connected to your
> network and a LocalTalk cable connected to your printer. The printer
> appears in Chooser in Mac OS 9 or can be added using Print Center as a
> AppleTalk printer in Mac OS X.
> 
> On eBay look under Macintosh for something like Etherprint or
> Ethernet-LocalTalk bridge. Hope this helps
> 
> Mike

Or AsanteTalk from Asante. It did work fine when I had a Personal
LaserWriter NTR.

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Re: Buying an iBook.. Qualification Correction

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

We HAVE called and asked...our school was one of the first to get an iBook
lab when they first came out an many parents were interested. We tried
negotiating with Apple given the excitement the iBooks caused in the
community. No go. So, are you sure you didn't qualify because you were a
board member? Or quite possibly you simply lucked out because they thought
you were still a board member?


> Also...If you ask as a parent...you will qualify...I  did it as a parent
> for an elem student and did it last year as a school board member and my
> wife did it as a teacherMy middle son bought as a high school senior
> on his own account...If in doubt...call and ask
> Regards,
> Mike
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Direct from Apple's website:
>> 
>> Who is eligible to purchase?
>> K-12 Education 
>> Any employee of a K-12 institution in the United States is eligible to
>> purchase through the Apple Store for Education Individuals. School board
>> members who are currently serving as elected or appointed members are
>> eligible. PTA or PTO executives currently serving as elected or appointed
>> officers are eligible. Qualified homeschools are also eligible.
>> 
>> david
>> 
>> On 1/21/04 8:33 AM, "Kochkodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> You are incorrect SIR!!!ANY Student qualifies for the ed
>>> price..Public, private, or charter.As well ass ALL faculty/staff
>>> including secretarial, maintenance etc. administration and board of
>>> director members... A Parent of any student CAN and MAY purchase at the
>>> ed price as long as they provide the school name,addy, etc. required by
>>> Apple Ed sales dept.I KNOW this is true because I have bought as a
>>> Parent and as a school board member and have friends that bought as
>>> staff membersThe prices were about $100-250 below retail..depending
>>> on the systems.  I forget the exact quantities of kit that may be
>>> purchased annually by such a personYou can get all the latest info
>>> by calling the Apple Ed Sales dept...
>>> HTH...Regards,
>>> Mike K
>>> 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On 1/19/04 5:32 PM, "Paul Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
 
 
> Hi,
> 
> Are you a student? Do you have a child who is a student? Do you know a
> student? Do you know someone who knows a srudent? The educational
> discount knocks a couple hundred or so clams off the price. I'd look
> into buying a new one with a student discount.
> 
 
 By student, of course, he means college student. The education price is not
 available to k12 students.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> ~~~
>> "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, and the future frightens
>> us...and our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast,
>> terrible in-between."
>>-- Centauri emperor, "The Coming of Shadows"
>> 
>> 
> 

~~~
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us...and our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast,
terrible in-between."
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Re: Buying an iBook.. Qualification Correction

[Kochkodin]

Also...If you ask as a parent...you will qualify...I  did it as a parent 
for an elem student and did it last year as a school board member and my 
wife did it as a teacherMy middle son bought as a high school senior 
on his own account...If in doubt...call and ask
Regards,
Mike

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Direct from Apple's website:

Who is eligible to purchase?
K-12 Education 
Any employee of a K-12 institution in the United States is eligible to
purchase through the Apple Store for Education Individuals. School board
members who are currently serving as elected or appointed members are
eligible. PTA or PTO executives currently serving as elected or appointed
officers are eligible. Qualified homeschools are also eligible.

david

On 1/21/04 8:33 AM, "Kochkodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


You are incorrect SIR!!!ANY Student qualifies for the ed
price..Public, private, or charter.As well ass ALL faculty/staff
including secretarial, maintenance etc. administration and board of
director members... A Parent of any student CAN and MAY purchase at the
ed price as long as they provide the school name,addy, etc. required by
Apple Ed sales dept.I KNOW this is true because I have bought as a
Parent and as a school board member and have friends that bought as
staff membersThe prices were about $100-250 below retail..depending
on the systems.  I forget the exact quantities of kit that may be
purchased annually by such a personYou can get all the latest info
by calling the Apple Ed Sales dept...
HTH...Regards,
Mike K
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 1/19/04 5:32 PM, "Paul Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi,

Are you a student? Do you have a child who is a student? Do you know a
student? Do you know someone who knows a srudent? The educational
discount knocks a couple hundred or so clams off the price. I'd look
into buying a new one with a student discount.
By student, of course, he means college student. The education price is not
available to k12 students.


~~~
"The past tempts us, the present confuses us, and the future frightens
us...and our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast,
terrible in-between."
   -- Centauri emperor, "The Coming of Shadows"



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Re: Buying an iBook.. Qualification Correction

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Direct from Apple's website:

Who is eligible to purchase?
K-12 Education 
Any employee of a K-12 institution in the United States is eligible to
purchase through the Apple Store for Education Individuals. School board
members who are currently serving as elected or appointed members are
eligible. PTA or PTO executives currently serving as elected or appointed
officers are eligible. Qualified homeschools are also eligible.

david

On 1/21/04 8:33 AM, "Kochkodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You are incorrect SIR!!!ANY Student qualifies for the ed
> price..Public, private, or charter.As well ass ALL faculty/staff
> including secretarial, maintenance etc. administration and board of
> director members... A Parent of any student CAN and MAY purchase at the
> ed price as long as they provide the school name,addy, etc. required by
> Apple Ed sales dept.I KNOW this is true because I have bought as a
> Parent and as a school board member and have friends that bought as
> staff membersThe prices were about $100-250 below retail..depending
> on the systems.  I forget the exact quantities of kit that may be
> purchased annually by such a personYou can get all the latest info
> by calling the Apple Ed Sales dept...
> HTH...Regards,
> Mike K
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> On 1/19/04 5:32 PM, "Paul Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Are you a student? Do you have a child who is a student? Do you know a
>>> student? Do you know someone who knows a srudent? The educational
>>> discount knocks a couple hundred or so clams off the price. I'd look
>>> into buying a new one with a student discount.
>>> 
>> 
>> By student, of course, he means college student. The education price is not
>> available to k12 students.
> 
> 

~~~
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us...and our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast,
terrible in-between."
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Re: Printing from Wallstreet in Jaguar?

[chueewowee]

I got so far, have the stylewriter appear in the print center, but couldn't 
configure CUPS, in the browser link for some reason. I hope to try again, 
and shall keep in touch.

20/1/04 8:12 AM -0600 Andre Ruegg  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has anyone had success in using the method described at:


regards, John

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Re: Buying an iBook.. Qualification Correction

[Kochkodin]

You are incorrect SIR!!!ANY Student qualifies for the ed 
price..Public, private, or charter.As well ass ALL faculty/staff 
including secretarial, maintenance etc. administration and board of 
director members... A Parent of any student CAN and MAY purchase at the 
ed price as long as they provide the school name,addy, etc. required by 
Apple Ed sales dept.I KNOW this is true because I have bought as a 
Parent and as a school board member and have friends that bought as 
staff membersThe prices were about $100-250 below retail..depending 
on the systems.  I forget the exact quantities of kit that may be 
purchased annually by such a personYou can get all the latest info 
by calling the Apple Ed Sales dept...
HTH...Regards,
Mike K

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 1/19/04 5:32 PM, "Paul Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,

Are you a student? Do you have a child who is a student? Do you know a
student? Do you know someone who knows a srudent? The educational
discount knocks a couple hundred or so clams off the price. I'd look
into buying a new one with a student discount.
By student, of course, he means college student. The education price is not
available to k12 students.


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Re: 802.11G pccard?

[Mitch Hogg]

On 1/20/04 5:16 PM, Marc wrote:

> Can someone recommend a 802.11G pccard to be used in a Pismo Powerbook?
> All I can find here(Netherlands) only have Wintel-drivers.
 
Marc,

You don't mention what operating system you're using, so I'm going to assume
it's X. Since the introduction of Airport 3.1.1 in June of last year, Jaguar
supports the use of any third-party g card based on the Broadcom chipset.
There's no special driver; just plug in the card and Jaguar will treat it
like an Airport Extreme. (Details can be found at
.)

PCMCIA cards that use the Broadcom chipset include BuffaloTech, Linksys and
Belkin, among others (a comprehensive list can be found at
). I'm using a Linksys
WPC54G, and it's worked perfectly on my Wallstreet since the day I bought
it, and no extra drivers were necessary.

As I said, this solution only works under Jaguar or later. If you've got an
earlier system, you're probably going to have to find something that comes
with Mac drivers.


Hope this helps,

Mitch.


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Re: Printing from Wallstreet in Jaguar?

[Mike Turner]

On 20/1/04 21:30, Paul Stamsen said:

>Mike Turner stated:
>
> -> I bought on eBay a LocalTalk network
> -> adapter for the Stylus Color 500 and a LocalTalk-Ethernet bridge box.
> -> This, plus the Epson standard network print driver, gave me a network
> -> printer accessible to all ethernet equipped Macs.
>
>What does one ask eBay to look for if one should want one of these (for a 
>HP)?

I assume you mean a Ethernet-LocalTalk bridge, not a printer network 
interface card? You have anHP printer with no ethernet interface, just a 
LocalTalk network connection? This setup doesn't work with a purely 
serial printer.

There are several different devices that will bridge between Ethernet and 
LocalTalk networks.

The one that I have had experience of is the Dayna Mini EtherPrint. It 
works transparently. Just plug in an ethernet cable connected to your 
network and a LocalTalk cable connected to your printer. The printer 
appears in Chooser in Mac OS 9 or can be added using Print Center as a 
AppleTalk printer in Mac OS X.

On eBay look under Macintosh for something like Etherprint or 
Ethernet-LocalTalk bridge. Hope this helps

Mike

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