Re: Install Mac OS X over ethernet?

2004-09-24 Thread mac2999
darn
I have various unix based computers, could one of these work?
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:06:52 -0700, Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 At 7:14 PM -0500 9/23/04, CJ wrote:
 Can I install Mac OS 10.3 on my iBook 500?  The CD Drive is dead.  I have a
 PowerMac 5500 with Ethernet and Mac OS 9.1 on it.  Can I use this to install
 OS X over Ethernet?  Maybe through open firmware or netboot (hold down N
 key)?
 
 
 No.  Netboot requires an OS X Server or equivalent.
 
 Your best bet besides replacing the CD-ROM drive is a FireWire CD-ROM
 drive.
 
 I've been doing this kind of thing lately trying to install OS X from 
 a master configuration disk.  I had a couple of configurations that 
 required some interesting lashups.
 
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Re: Install Mac OS X over ethernet?

2004-09-24 Thread Laurent Daudelin
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 darn
 I have various unix based computers, could one of these work?

You mean, for replacing the CD-ROM drive? If not, then no, these won't help.

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Checking the battery on a Lombard, and other questions

2004-09-24 Thread D. G. Bowie
Hi,
I've been wanting to ask these three simple questions for a long time:
First, I use my G3 Lombard 400 MHz Powerbook as a desktop computer, 
seldom removing it from its a.c. adaptor.  I've never tested its 
battery.  How can I do so?  Also, what is the best way to keep a 
rechargeable computer battery in tiptop shape?  Is it a good idea to 
occasionally exhaust the battery, as I've sometimes heard with regard 
to portable phones and other household appliances?

Second, I use a USB attached mouse instead of the trackpad on this 
computer.  Therefore, is the trackpad control panel still a 
necessary active control panel, in addition to the mouse control 
panel?

Finally, I've now graduated from serial printers, connecting my G3 to 
a USB printer (very fast).  Is the Print Print Monitor extension 
still necessary with USB printers?

These questions are part of my continuing effort to reduce the boot 
time of my computer.  Thanks in advance for any insight or discussion.

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My wallstreet and its booting

2004-09-24 Thread Dan Palka
My Wallstreet takes like forever to spin up the hard drive and turn on 
the display after chime.  Like almost a minute.  This only happens from 
a cold boot though.  If I simply restart the computer, booting is 
completely normal.

What can I do to fix this?  Could this be a dead PRAM issue (which I 
know its dead cuz the clocks never stay the same if i remove the main 
batteries.

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Re: Checking the battery on a Lombard, and other questions

2004-09-24 Thread Dan Palka
On Sep 24, 2004, at 8:47 AM, D. G. Bowie wrote:
First, I use my G3 Lombard 400 MHz Powerbook as a desktop computer, 
seldom removing it from its a.c. adaptor.  I've never tested its 
battery.  How can I do so?
By using it until it goes out.
Second, I use a USB attached mouse instead of the trackpad on this 
computer.  Therefore, is the trackpad control panel still a 
necessary active control panel, in addition to the mouse control 
panel?
If you ever bring your PowerBook on an airplane, your most certainly 
not going to use the mouse.

The trackpad control panel takes up like zero kilobytes of memory and 
hard drive space.  Just leave it, its a good thing to have around.  
Removing the trackpad control panel will have no effect on your boot 
time.  Its basically the mouse control panel, but with a picture of a 
trackpad in it.  The only difference is (obviously) that it controls 
settings for your trackpad.

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Re: My wallstreet and its booting

2004-09-24 Thread Malcolm Cornelius
 My Wallstreet takes like forever to spin up the hard drive and turn on
 the display after chime.  Like almost a minute.  This only happens from
 a cold boot though.  If I simply restart the computer, booting is
 completely normal.
 
 What can I do to fix this?  Could this be a dead PRAM issue (which I
 know its dead cuz the clocks never stay the same if i remove the main
 batteries.

Turning RAM test off in the memory control panel might speed things up if
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Re: Checking the battery on a Lombard, and other questions

2004-09-24 Thread Miche Doherty
On 24 Sep 2004, at 2:47 pm, D. G. Bowie wrote:
 Is it a good idea to occasionally exhaust the battery, as I've 
sometimes heard with regard to portable phones and other household 
appliances?
Nickel-Cadmium batteries benefit from being fully discharged from time 
to time, but that doesn't apply to Lithium-ion batteries, like the one 
in your Powerbook, which prefer a partial discharge. See here for more 
detail:

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
Miche.
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Re: OS X Database Recommendations (was: Virus Software Recommendation)

2004-09-24 Thread Mikael Byström
Dan Scanlan said:

Panorama, the most intuitive database program I've ever come across, 
works fine for me on OSX 3.5.

What are the costs involved and are there learning materials like books
or CDs? I've heard good things about Panorama for a long time, but I
avoided because it was RAMbased. Under OS X with the excellent VM
architecture that may be unecessary, so I might check it out some time
for a project.


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Re: OS X Database Recommendations (wasRe: Virus Software Recommendation)

2004-09-24 Thread Mikael Byström
Erik Ness said:

 I use FM a lot, and keep an ear to the ground in the 
developer community, and this is a very nice piece of software.

You mean you now at leisure can have multiple (more than 3) related
databases on one layout without jumping trough rings while singin the
marseljes like in a normal database application? You mean data is now
separated from structure? You are saying that there is now a proper
programming language in place that can work on the low level? You are
claiming that FM7 now have proper layout events, instead of buttons, in
place so that user actions can start functions? That you finally have
live ODBC connections?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but except for the last item, I think none of
the above is happening even in FM7. The only thing that could save FM in
my eyes is a total rework from the ground up and I've seen no indication
that FM 7 is that. However, I expect it to be better than FM6.

 

I've been using FileMaker for years (even having passed FileMaker's
partner level developer exam) and realize that the (Filemaker) paradigm
requires you to pull off a lot of little funny unknown and poorly
documented tricks to accomplish what are normally straight forward
programming techniques.
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Re: OS X Database Recommendations(wasRe: Virus Software Recommendation)

2004-09-24 Thread Mikael Byström
Laurent Daudelin said:

 I personally use AppleWorks. It has the same
hurriedly ported to OS X feeling but it's easy to modify and use, and it was
free with my PowerBook!

But it's not a proper relational database (AW has a flat database only)
and unless your demands are extremely simple, that means its close to
useless. 
Relational database app 4th Dimension (4D) is free for students and
teachers, though the more advanced developer license does cost a little.
Typical FM users would make do with the basic package. If one pays for
their software, loike in a commercial outfit, I think the money and time
is better spent on 4D.

If I compare FM to 4D, 4D does have an initial learning curve, one reason
the massive amount of learning material, but FMs initial learning curve
does not beat 4D by much. The difference is that 4D can deliver much more
advanced solutions than FM can, and I'm sure that is still so with FM 7.
FM is really only simple for simple solutions. 4D is definitely simpler
to manage for advanced solutions. At least those are possible.

One free alternative solution can be the CompleteMySQL distribution as a
database engine and CocoaMySQL as a developer interface and browser as a
user interface. But this hardly fits everyone.

Regarding Helix, it's my understanding that Helix as viable database
development platform is over. Pretty sad actually. I've been following it
since 1996.



FileMaker seems like it was written by someone who has never had any
formal database training at all, but just kind of worked it out as they
went along.
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Re: My wallstreet and its booting

2004-09-24 Thread Dan Palka
I don't see that option.
Is 256 considered a lot?
On Sep 24, 2004, at 10:17 AM, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:
Turning RAM test off in the memory control panel might speed things up 
if
you have a lot of RAM.

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Re: My wallstreet and its booting

2004-09-24 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 24/09/04 15:32, Dan Palka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't see that option.
 
 Is 256 considered a lot?
 
 On Sep 24, 2004, at 10:17 AM, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:
 
 Turning RAM test off in the memory control panel might speed things up
 if
 you have a lot of RAM.

256 is not that much. I've read your initial message. I'm not sure that
turning off memory checking at startup would reduce the time it takes. How
long did you have the hard disk in this Wallstreet? When was the last time
that you had it checked with a disk utility?

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Re: OS X Database Recommendations (wasRe: Virus Software Recommendation)

2004-09-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 24, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Mikael Byström wrote:
Erik Ness said:
I use FM a lot, and keep an ear to the ground in the
developer community, and this is a very nice piece of software.
You mean you now at leisure can have multiple (more than 3) related
databases on one layout without jumping trough rings while singin the
marseljes like in a normal database application? You mean data is now
separated from structure? You are saying that there is now a proper
programming language in place that can work on the low level? You are
claiming that FM7 now have proper layout events, instead of buttons, in
place so that user actions can start functions? That you finally have
live ODBC connections?
Then you don't want FM. You want a real rdbms...I'd suggest Postgres 
over Mysql personally; far more feature rich and mature a product.

Postgres + PHP + Apache is a powerful combination.
Doing things like the above with FM is like people making corporate 
datasystems in Access, you end up with a gigantic creaking datatower o' 
Jenga waiting to crash down at any moment.

(trust me, I've now inherited supporting an application that's an old 
Access/VB app ported to SQLServer. You can tell that the people who 
wrote it didn't really have a clue about RDBMS design.

Strong DBA's have come away whimpering and temporarily blinded by 
looking at the code and structure...and I can't just rewrite it, as 
it's a commercial app we have to support)

Proper tool for the job. You wouldn't want to cross the Atlantic in a 
canoe, either.

For what it is, a simple, easy-to-use DB system for people who don't 
have gigantic needs, FM is excellent, probably the best solution out 
there Mac or Windows. It kicks a** all over Access, imo.

But don't try to press it into enterprise-level service; it's not made 
for that.

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Getting a Dell WLAN PC Card to work in Panther

2004-09-24 Thread Kenneth Vann
You can get cards that have native Airport Support in OSX.

Check out my web page on FAQ for Wireless (Bottom of Page for OS X)

http://home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/

Also a new listing from Asante (not on page yet) is here
http://www.asante.com/products/adapters/AL5403-XG/index.html

Asante is offering a $10.00 rebate. Check their site.

Save your Dell for use with the Clasic OS.

Ken Vann



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Re: My wallstreet and its booting

2004-09-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 24, 2004, at 12:32 PM, Dan Palka wrote:
I don't see that option.
In OS 9 you hold down the option and control key (I think) while 
selecting the memory control panel from the apple menu to reveal it.

Is 256 considered a lot?
enough that the delay in booting is noticeable, but not that long.
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Re: My wallstreet and its booting

2004-09-24 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 24/09/04 16:02, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sep 24, 2004, at 12:32 PM, Dan Palka wrote:
 
 I don't see that option.
 
 
 In OS 9 you hold down the option and control key (I think) while
 selecting the memory control panel from the apple menu to reveal it.

Or you might have to open the control panels folder and hold the Option key
while you double-click the Memory control panel. You should see an
additional control at the bottom of the window that will appear...

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Re: My wallstreet and its booting

2004-09-24 Thread B Gardner
Dan, hold the Command and Option keys down while double clicking on the  
Memory Control Panel. The option to turn testing off at startup will  
appear.
On Sep 24, 2004, at 2:40 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

On 24/09/04 15:32, Dan Palka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't see that option.
Is 256 considered a lot?
On Sep 24, 2004, at 10:17 AM, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:
Turning RAM test off in the memory control panel might speed things  
up
if
you have a lot of RAM.
256 is not that much. I've read your initial message. I'm not sure that
turning off memory checking at startup would reduce the time it takes.  
How
long did you have the hard disk in this Wallstreet? When was the last  
time
that you had it checked with a disk utility?

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Problem Lombard

2004-09-24 Thread Tom and Lisa P
I have a friend who for some reason cant post here.   He has a 
problem Lombard that used to boot, but dropped into OF after the 
bong, giving the following display:

MacOS:  Boot Failure! (0xF3C481F6)
MacOS: ROM checksum failure!
Apple Powerbook1, 1.1of1 BootROM built on 04/060/99 at 10:21:59
Copyright 1994-1999 Apple Computer, Inc.
Welcome to Open Firmware.
To continue booting, type mac-boot% and press return
To shut down, type, shut-down% and press return.
ok
0_
He tried to continue but no keystrokes appear on the screen.  Same 
for trying to shut down.  After pulling the AC and battery it now 
appears to be completely dead, not even giving a bong.  Its a 256 MB 
/400 MHz Lombard

Any ideas ?
thanks,
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Re: Problem Lombard

2004-09-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 24, 2004, at 2:15 PM, Tom and Lisa P wrote:
He tried to continue but no keystrokes appear on the screen.  Same for 
trying to shut down.  After pulling the AC and battery it now appears 
to be completely dead, not even giving a bong.  Its a 256 MB /400 MHz 
Lombard
Try putting in the AC or battery again ? ;-)
actually that sounds like a major hardware failure. Get in and make 
sure the processor card and memory are properly seated.

Otherwise, I'd suspect mobo or processor card failure.
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Re: My wallstreet and its booting

2004-09-24 Thread Dan Palka
I did this and it affected nothing.
Remember that the delay is BEFORE the screen even turn son, or the  
hard drive spins up.

On Sep 24, 2004, at 4:02 PM, B Gardner wrote:
Dan, hold the Command and Option keys down while double clicking on 
the Memory Control Panel. The option to turn testing off at startup 
will appear.
On Sep 24, 2004, at 2:40 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

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Re: My wallstreet and its booting

2004-09-24 Thread Malcolm Cornelius
 I did this and it affected nothing.
 
 Remember that the delay is BEFORE the screen even turn son, or the
 hard drive spins up.

Yup.

That's a wallstreet, they all take forever to boot IMHO.

I tell people when I sell them to wait for it to boot.

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Re: Install Mac OS X over ethernet?

2004-09-24 Thread CJ
no, I ment using some type of software on the linux/unix workstation to
allow the mac to do sometype of network install.

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 darn
 I have various unix based computers, could one of these work?

You mean, for replacing the CD-ROM drive? If not, then no, these won't help.

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Re: Checking the battery on a Lombard, and other questions

2004-09-24 Thread Clark Martin
At 8:47 AM -0500 9/24/04, D. G. Bowie wrote:
Hi,
I've been wanting to ask these three simple questions for a long time:
First, I use my G3 Lombard 400 MHz Powerbook as a desktop computer, 
seldom removing it from its a.c. adaptor.  I've never tested its 
battery.  How can I do so?  Also, what is the best way to keep a 
rechargeable computer battery in tiptop shape?  Is it a good idea to 
occasionally exhaust the battery, as I've sometimes heard with 
regard to portable phones and other household appliances?

Hmm ... testing the battery, using it perhaps.  Make sure you have 
anything you want to keep saved then unplug the power supply.  If it 
doesn't die immediately it should warn you when the battery is 
getting low.

LION batteries should not be deeply discharged routinely like NiCd 
batteries.  The only time it is useful is not for the battery but to 
recalibrate the charge monitoring system.  You only try it if the 
battery is showing abnormally short operating time.  To keep the 
batteries in good shape keep them charged up.

Second, I use a USB attached mouse instead of the trackpad on this 
computer.  Therefore, is the trackpad control panel still a 
necessary active control panel, in addition to the mouse control 
panel?
The track pad doesn't do anything unless you open it and then it 
adjusts the settings for the trackpad.  In other word, Yes.

Finally, I've now graduated from serial printers, connecting my G3 
to a USB printer (very fast).  Is the Print Print Monitor extension 
still necessary with USB printers?

Print Monitor is only invoked if you print to a printer that uses it. 
The Background Extension is there to launch Print Monitor when needed 
but it is very small and doesn't take long to startup or use much 
memory.

These questions are part of my continuing effort to reduce the boot 
time of my computer.  Thanks in advance for any insight or 
discussion.

Try sleeping the computer instead of shutting it down.  It will start 
up a lot quicker from sleep than from booting up.

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Re: Install Mac OS X over ethernet?

2004-09-24 Thread Clark Martin
At 5:45 AM -0700 9/24/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
darn
I have various unix based computers, could one of these work?
Not that I know of but I've never gone looking.  Check the docs for 
it.  It should be something noticeable.  That is, it's not just a 
matter of a particular file server it has to have specific support 
for net booting under OS X.

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:06:52 -0700, Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 At 7:14 PM -0500 9/23/04, CJ wrote:
 Can I install Mac OS 10.3 on my iBook 500?  The CD Drive is dead.  I have a
 PowerMac 5500 with Ethernet and Mac OS 9.1 on it.  Can I use this 
to install
 OS X over Ethernet?  Maybe through open firmware or netboot (hold down N
 key)?
 

 No.  Netboot requires an OS X Server or equivalent.
 Your best bet besides replacing the CD-ROM drive is a FireWire CD-ROM
 drive.
 I've been doing this kind of thing lately trying to install OS X from
 a master configuration disk.  I had a couple of configurations that
  required some interesting lashups.
 
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Re: Install Mac OS X over ethernet?

2004-09-24 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 24/09/04 19:57, CJ at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 no, I ment using some type of software on the linux/unix workstation to
 allow the mac to do sometype of network install.
 
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 on 24/09/04 08:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 darn
 I have various unix based computers, could one of these work?
 
 You mean, for replacing the CD-ROM drive? If not, then no, these won't help.

I don't think that this would be possible.

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Re: My wallstreet and its booting

2004-09-24 Thread Bob
The National Enquirer reports at 9:21 AM -0500 9/24/04, Dan Palka wrote:

My Wallstreet takes like forever to spin up the hard drive and turn on
the display after chime.  Like almost a minute.  This only happens from
a cold boot though.  If I simply restart the computer, booting is
completely normal.

What can I do to fix this?  Could this be a dead PRAM issue (which I
know its dead cuz the clocks never stay the same if i remove the main
batteries.

Dan,
I don't know about it being a PRAM problem, I've never had a dead 
PRAM battery. But...

Do you now have, or have you had, your WS networked? From the sound 
of other replies, it seems like you are using OS 8/9. If so, go into 
the System Folder and find a folder named Servers. Delete the 
accumulated servers in that folder and see if that speeds things up.

If your PB is looking for non-existent servers, it *will* take a long 
time before it decides that they are not available. That happens 
before you actually bootup.

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Re: My wallstreet and its booting

2004-09-24 Thread Andrew Kershaw
Do you now have, or have you had, your WS networked? From the sound
of other replies, it seems like you are using OS 8/9. If so, go into
the System Folder and find a folder named Servers. Delete the
accumulated servers in that folder and see if that speeds things up.
This occurs WELL BEFORE the OS starts to load.  That's not the problem.
A pair of my Wallstreets suffer from the same problem.  I suspect it 
does have to do with a dead PRAM battery.

In case people aren't understanding, this delay occurs AFTER the 
boot, but WELL BEFORE the ROM starts to boot the Mac.  It could be 
corruption somewhere in NVRAM.  I wonder if an OF reset-all would 
solve the problem?

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Re: My wallstreet and its booting

2004-09-24 Thread Andrew Kershaw
In case people aren't understanding, this delay occurs AFTER the 
boot, but WELL BEFORE the ROM starts to boot the Mac.  It could be 
corruption somewhere in NVRAM.  I wonder if an OF reset-all would 
solve the problem?
Er, that should say that the delay occurs after the boot chime, but 
before the ROM starts to take over (screen lights up, happy Mac 
appears, etc).

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Re: My wallstreet and its booting

2004-09-24 Thread Dan Palka
Yes I think he hit the nail on the head with that in regards to my 
problem.

I'm starting to get the impression that people on this list aren't 
quite grasping what I'm saying.

The Wallstreet chimes, then does nothing for almost a minute.  NOTHING. 
 Not a blinking question mark, not a blank gray screen, but a DARK 
(a.k.a. NOT operating) screen, no hard drive noises, no cd noises, no 
noises whatsoever for a minute after the chime.

Basically, the computer fails to operate or function in any computerly 
way for about 45 seconds after chime.  This is a very, very long time.  
Agonizing.  Embarrassing when I'm booting in front of PC friends and 
get why is it taking so long to boot

On Sep 24, 2004, at 11:07 PM, Andrew Kershaw wrote:

A pair of my Wallstreets suffer from the same problem.  I suspect it 
does have to do with a dead PRAM battery.

In case people aren't understanding, this delay occurs AFTER the boot, 
but WELL BEFORE the ROM starts to boot the Mac.  It could be 
corruption somewhere in NVRAM.  I wonder if an OF reset-all would 
solve the problem?

Peace,
Drew

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