SmartMedia reader suggestions

2004-10-03 Thread cwrayfield
I have a Pismo w/G4 upgrade, OX 10.3.5. I'd like to download photos 
from an Olympus SmartMedia card. An OSB reader (by PNY) I bought at 
Staples said it didn't need a driver, but it wouldn't mount. The System 
Profiler showed a USB mass storage device. Rebooting with the reader 
connected revealed a message that the Mac couldn't read the contents of 
the connected disk. Search for drivers for this on the web was 
unsuccessful.
Borrowed a Microtech reader, which came with a driver on CD, to try. 
Unfortunately, I couldn't drag the driver over. The CD includes an 
installation program, which in turn wanted to activate Classic. I said 
no.
Can anyone recommend a solution in the form of a reader known to 
function seamlessly in this setting?

cwr
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airport

2004-10-03 Thread vicki
Hi all question time again.

I would like to know if i could do this and also if anyone else knows of a
cheaper way than £100. for the airport express box.

I have a spare mac that i want to set up in the spare room to use as a
schoolwork only mac. For my kids. but i want it to have the internet for
reference work when they are doing projects.

So here is the question. can i use an Airport express station plugged into
the back of the 7300/200 via ethernet and then get it to talk to my Netgear
router that has all the other household Macs connected (wirelessly) to the
net.

I got over the problem with my oldest and the internet by getting her an
Orinoco card, for her Wallstreet and then getting rid of the cables from all
over the house. Now that i have a spare mac i want to give it to my other
girls for them to use.

Is this idea ok or is there another way i could do it. I did contemplate
this when i was getting an imac but when it arrived it already had an
Airport card fitted so i did not need anything else just connected straight
up.


TIA Vicki.



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Re: SmartMedia reader suggestions

2004-10-03 Thread Fabian Fang
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 06:05:58 -0400, cwrayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a Pismo w/G4 upgrade, OX 10.3.5. I'd like to download photos
 from an Olympus SmartMedia card. An OSB reader (by PNY) I bought at
 Staples said it didn't need a driver, but it wouldn't mount. The System
 Profiler showed a USB mass storage device. Rebooting with the reader
 connected revealed a message that the Mac couldn't read the contents of
 the connected disk. Search for drivers for this on the web was
 unsuccessful.
 Borrowed a Microtech reader, which came with a driver on CD, to try.
 Unfortunately, I couldn't drag the driver over. The CD includes an
 installation program, which in turn wanted to activate Classic. I said
 no.
 Can anyone recommend a solution in the form of a reader known to
 function seamlessly in this setting?

I have a SmartDisk TriMedia Reader (Floppy Disk, CompactFlash, and
SmartMedia) and a SmartDisk Universal Reader (for all six common types
of memory cards, including SmartMedia).  Both work well with a Server
G4 running OS 10.3.5.

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Re: SmartMedia reader suggestions

2004-10-03 Thread Shawn Harley
Not sure if this will help, but you might give it a try:
http://www.versiontracker.com/php/search.php? 
mode=basicaction=searchstr=cypress%2C+usbplt%5B%5D=macosxx=13y=8

I remember my Dad having trouble with a Zio/Microtech USB reader, and I  
think we used this.
If it is a Zio and this doesn't work, let me know. I may still have a  
copy of the driver that I used with my Zio USB SM reader.

Shawn
On Oct 3, 2004, at 6:05 AM, cwrayfield wrote:
I have a Pismo w/G4 upgrade, OX 10.3.5. I'd like to download photos  
from an Olympus SmartMedia card. An OSB reader (by PNY) I bought at  
Staples said it didn't need a driver, but it wouldn't mount. The  
System Profiler showed a USB mass storage device. Rebooting with the  
reader connected revealed a message that the Mac couldn't read the  
contents of the connected disk. Search for drivers for this on the web  
was unsuccessful.
Borrowed a Microtech reader, which came with a driver on CD, to try.  
Unfortunately, I couldn't drag the driver over. The CD includes an  
installation program, which in turn wanted to activate Classic. I said  
no.
Can anyone recommend a solution in the form of a reader known to  
function seamlessly in this setting?

cwr
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Re: Storing laptops -- pros cons

2004-10-03 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Saturday, October 2, 2004, at 06:22 AM, MarJo wrote:
If any kind of laptop has to be stored in a warehouse
for a period of, say, 4 months -- what will happen?
Will it be bootable when it is retrieved?  Will one or
both of the batteries be dead?
Shut it down, remove the battery, put the battery in a ziploc baggie 
with a silicon drying pack and it should be fine. The clock battery (if 
it has one) should last for years.

It should boot right up. You may need to recharge the battery, but if 
it's stored in a dry environment that's less likely (why I suggest a 
ziplock and a silicon packet)

Worst that can happen is that the clock will be off.
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Re: SmartMedia reader suggestions

2004-10-03 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sunday, October 3, 2004, at 03:05 AM, cwrayfield wrote:
I have a Pismo w/G4 upgrade, OX 10.3.5. I'd like to download photos 
from an Olympus SmartMedia card. An OSB reader (by PNY) I bought at 
Staples said it didn't need a driver, but it wouldn't mount. The 
System Profiler showed a USB mass storage device. Rebooting with the 
reader connected revealed a message that the Mac couldn't read the 
contents of the connected disk. Search for drivers for this on the web 
was unsuccessful.
I suspect something's wrong with the reader. I've never found one yet 
that needed a driver in OS X.

Mine is a Delkin Devices e-film, sold under some other name I-O 
something (I can't find the box right now), it's a 6-in-1 device, has 
always read everything fine, without a driver.

I've got another one at work it also works just fine, no drivers.
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PowerBook fix-it guides

2004-10-03 Thread Erik Ness
Great resource, found on slash-dot:
http://pbfixit.com/Guide/
Cheers,
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Re: airport

2004-10-03 Thread Andrew
I think a PCI wifi card (do they make desktop cards with Mac drivers?) would
be cheaper, but if that wasn't available, how about a second wifi
basestation other than Apple's?  Better yet, move your router to the 7300's
room and connect the 7300 to it via Ethernet, then use your newer computers
wirelessly.

Andrew

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From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of vicki
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 3:23 AM
To: G-Books
Subject: airport

Hi all question time again.

I would like to know if i could do this and also if anyone else knows of a
cheaper way than £100. for the airport express box.

I have a spare mac that i want to set up in the spare room to use as a
schoolwork only mac. For my kids. but i want it to have the internet for
reference work when they are doing projects.

So here is the question. can i use an Airport express station plugged into
the back of the 7300/200 via ethernet and then get it to talk to my Netgear
router that has all the other household Macs connected (wirelessly) to the
net.

I got over the problem with my oldest and the internet by getting her an
Orinoco card, for her Wallstreet and then getting rid of the cables from all
over the house. Now that i have a spare mac i want to give it to my other
girls for them to use.

Is this idea ok or is there another way i could do it. I did contemplate
this when i was getting an imac but when it arrived it already had an
Airport card fitted so i did not need anything else just connected straight
up.


TIA Vicki.



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Re: Storing laptops -- pros cons

2004-10-03 Thread Tim Hodgson
On Saturday, October 2, 2004, at 06:22 AM, MarJo wrote:


 If any kind of laptop has to be stored in a warehouse
 for a period of, say, 4 months -- what will happen?
 Will it be bootable when it is retrieved?  Will one or
 both of the batteries be dead?

This might be useful:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=10571

TimH


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Re: airport

2004-10-03 Thread Andrew Kershaw
I think a PCI wifi card (do they make desktop cards with Mac drivers?) would
be cheaper
Yep, there are some of these on the market.  If you can find the 
right model, there's an ORiNOCO one that will adapt a gold or silver 
card for use in a PCI slot.  There's also currently a card from 
MacWireless.com.

Better yet, Vicki, you could pick up one of those wired-ethernet to 
wireless transceivers.  These devices plug into your ethernet port 
and have an integrated wireless chipset  antenna - they turn your 
ethernet port into a wireless interface.  They are fairly 
inexpensive, and they require no drivers (so they will work with any 
computer with an ethernet port).  D-Link and Linksys make some, and 
I'm sure there are others.

Peace,
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Re: airport

2004-10-03 Thread Andrew
Wow, I didn't know there was such a thing.

Andrew

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Subject: Re: airport

I think a PCI wifi card (do they make desktop cards with Mac drivers?)
would
be cheaper
Yep, there are some of these on the market.  If you can find the
right model, there's an ORiNOCO one that will adapt a gold or silver
card for use in a PCI slot.  There's also currently a card from
MacWireless.com.

Better yet, Vicki, you could pick up one of those wired-ethernet to
wireless transceivers.  These devices plug into your ethernet port
and have an integrated wireless chipset  antenna - they turn your
ethernet port into a wireless interface.  They are fairly
inexpensive, and they require no drivers (so they will work with any
computer with an ethernet port).  D-Link and Linksys make some, and
I'm sure there are others.

Peace,
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Re: Storing laptops -- pros cons

2004-10-03 Thread Luis Autrique
Read somewhere that the best way to store a battery is to have it at 50 
% of its charge.

Luis
On Oct 3, 2004, at 11:04 AM, Tim Hodgson wrote:
On Saturday, October 2, 2004, at 06:22 AM, MarJo wrote:
If any kind of laptop has to be stored in a warehouse
for a period of, say, 4 months -- what will happen?
Will it be bootable when it is retrieved?  Will one or
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This might be useful:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=10571
TimH
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Re: Storing laptops -- pros cons

2004-10-03 Thread Tim Hodgson
On Sun, Oct 3, 2004 at 11:44 am -0500, Luis Autrique wrote:

Read somewhere that the best way to store a battery is to have it at 50 
% of its charge.

Yes, I remember reading that recently, and I was sure it was in an Apple
TIL. Couldn't find it when I searched the site though (a common occurrence :()

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Re: Storing laptops -- pros cons

2004-10-03 Thread Andrew
Is there any difference when storing older laptops that had PRAM batteries
and the newer Apple models that don't?  On the older models it was good to
store them with a battery attached and charged (debatable as to level of
charge).  I would think that it would be best to store modern PowerBooks or
iBooks without any battery installed, with the only ill effect being the
loss of day and date information.

Am I correct?  Not that I ever plan on being without my PowerBook long
enough for it to matter.

Andrew

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On Sun, Oct 3, 2004 at 11:44 am -0500, Luis Autrique wrote:

Read somewhere that the best way to store a battery is to have it at 50
% of its charge.

Yes, I remember reading that recently, and I was sure it was in an Apple
TIL. Couldn't find it when I searched the site though (a common occurrence
:()

TimH



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Re: SmartMedia reader suggestions

2004-10-03 Thread Clark Martin
At 8:34 AM -0700 10/3/04, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Sunday, October 3, 2004, at 03:05 AM, cwrayfield wrote:
I have a Pismo w/G4 upgrade, OX 10.3.5. I'd like to download photos 
from an Olympus SmartMedia card. An OSB reader (by PNY) I bought at 
Staples said it didn't need a driver, but it wouldn't mount. The 
System Profiler showed a USB mass storage device. Rebooting with 
the reader connected revealed a message that the Mac couldn't read 
the contents of the connected disk. Search for drivers for this on 
the web was unsuccessful.
It's possible the SmartMedia card is corrupt.  Not necessarily so 
corrupt that it won't work in the camera but the Mac might be 
pickier.  If you can save the pictures elsewhere then format the card 
in the camera.

Try reversing the process of inserting the card and connecting the reader.
I suspect something's wrong with the reader. I've never found one 
yet that needed a driver in OS X.
If a reader supports the Mass Storage standard then they don't need a 
driver.  Earlier readers that predate the Mass Storage standard need 
their own driver.  Under OS X I had to install drivers for both 
SmartDisk and Antec card readers.

It does sound like this is a USB Mass Storage compatible reader though.
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Re: Storing laptops -- pros

2004-10-03 Thread BobGir
Read a long thread on battery life elsewhere (which has some application to
your storage question) and the conclusion was, in order to get the longest
possible life from your battery, discharge it to the 40~50% level, remove
it, put it in a baggie and store it in the fridge.

Under normal use of the laptop, pop in the battery once a month, charge it,
let it drop to the 40~50% level again, remove it and bag in to the fridge.

Check out http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm for more info on
this subject.

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Re: Maintenance Scripts Are Worth Doing

2004-10-03 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 03/10/04 01:42, Bob at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 We've had some good discussion this week about Apple's built-in OS X
 maintenance scripts. But a comment was made that they are no big
 deal. I came across some additional information that indicates that
 it *is* important to run the scripts:
 
 One important house keeping aspect (i.e running the maintenance
 scripts) according to B. Jepson  E. Rothman in their book Mac OS X
 for Unix Geeks on page 41 is ... it is vitally important to run
 these jobs to insure that your Netinfo database is backed up.
 
 (I'm not enough of a techno-geek to understand all of what the
 Netinfo database is. As I understand it, it contains some System
 information and network information.)
 
 And your OS X cache files *can* get corrupted and cause problems.
 These scripts help keep the cache files clean.
 
 Also, I have received some private email from people who are
 concerned about not wanting to leave their computers on all night,
 and are not all that comfortable running Terminal commands. Let me
 see if I can take some of the unknown out of the process and make it
 a little easier.
 
 This will give you an idea of how long it takes to run the 3
 maintenance scripts:
 the daily script --- takes about five seconds
 the weekly script --- takes about five minutes for 50 GB of data
 (less if you have a smaller drive)
 the monthly script  takes about two seconds
 
 That's not too bad is it?
 
 How about if you could run all 3 from one command (assuming you are
 not going to use MacJanitor or OnyX or something similar)?
 
 You can type this in the Terminal window and do just that. (How about
 copying and pasting the following text? It doesn't get any easier
 than that.):
 
 sudo periodic daily weekly monthly

There are certainly misconception about those scripts, what they do and what
they are useful for.

First of all, NetInfo is almost never used. In my 14 years of using
NeXTStep/Mac OS X, I've never backed up and restored the NetInfo database.
Much of system information is kept in various config files that don't have
anything to do with the NetInfo database.

As far as I know, none of the scripts will refresh the cache. You have to
use an utility that will just do that, like Panther Cache Cleaner or Onyx.

If those scripts were that important, don't you think that Apple would have
put something to run them or accomplish what they do on a regular basis?

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Lost capability to cut and paste foreign text?

2004-10-03 Thread George Mogiljansky
Hello, 
Using OS 9.1, WS Series II, Netscape 7.x, I cannot use
Key Caps to generate Cyrillic text to cut and paste
into Livejournal.com. The result looks like this:
ȈÛÍÂÌ„¯˘Áı˙

If not using cut and paste, the characters work fine.

Best
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Re: GV Teleport 56 disconnects and bad communication

2004-10-03 Thread Mikael Byström
Bob said:

What OS are you using? OS X? Can you boot into OS 9?
OS 9.0 at the moment. Going to try a reinstallation of 9.2.2.


You can still [use zterm] if you want to confirm the connection. But as I 
said above, it sounds like that part is working.
I'd say it is.

What are you using for PPP? ARA? FreePPP?
PPP.

Can you connect a regular phone to that line and/or connector? If so, 
pick up the receiver and dial one numerical digit. Then listen and 
see if you hear that buzz, or any noise at all. 
Yes, the line is equally noisy in every stage.

I'll look and see if I can find something about GV modem scripts. Did 
you Google to try to find anything?
Yes, but as my GV Teleport 56 modem is international (code starts with
SB), results were inconclusive. There seem to be no init strings at GVs
site for this model, nor any firmware updates or manuals for that matter.

At the moment I'm going to try a reinstallation of the OS. I'll let you
know how it turns out.

After trying other changes, your suggestions included (unfortunately this
is a v.90 modem), the problem that comes back every time, no matter what
init I try (some fail completely too), is that it comes to starting PPP
and then it hangs up after a minute or two. So I'm kinda leaning to some
kind of OT error. I did delete relevant prefs and turned off non apple
extensions, but this did not help. 


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Re: SmartMedia reader suggestions

2004-10-03 Thread darm0k
At 08:34 AM -0700 10/03/2004, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Sunday, October 3, 2004, at 03:05 AM, cwrayfield wrote:
I have a Pismo w/G4 upgrade, OX 10.3.5. I'd like to download photos 
from an Olympus SmartMedia card. An OSB reader (by PNY) I bought at 
Staples said it didn't need a driver, but it wouldn't mount.
Apple lied.  And the manufacturer didn't double-check.
Our brand new 15 PB G4, with Panther, cannot talk to 4 of our 6 
media readers.  One no-name multi-format reader worked without a 
driver.  Got our ZiO! USB SmartMedia Reader working by using an 
ancient driver that the Microtech web site says to NOT use on Jaguar 
or Panther.

After 2 hours on the phone with Apple, I found out that OS X only 
directly supports *some* camera media card readers, and no, a list 
of the supported readers is not available.


I suspect something's wrong with the reader. I've never found one 
yet that needed a driver in OS X.
Wow have you lucked out, Bruce! :)
Any ideas how to make a HD in a IDE-USB box mount on Panther?  The 
drive came from a PB G3 (OS 9.2.2; Jaguar).  It mounts right up on 
another PB and an iMac -  both in OS 9.  But won't mount at all in OS 
X 10.1.5 or Panther.
(Apple's peripheral support SUX)

- Dan
(in ultra-frustration mode over these two issues; starting to regret 
our purchase of the new PB).

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Re: SmartMedia reader suggestions

2004-10-03 Thread Shawn Harley
Try the Cypress driver:
http://www.versiontracker.com/php/search.php? 
mode=basicaction=searchstr=cypress%2C+usbplt%5B%5D=macosxx=13y=8

Shawn
On Oct 3, 2004, at 5:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 08:34 AM -0700 10/03/2004, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Sunday, October 3, 2004, at 03:05 AM, cwrayfield wrote:
I have a Pismo w/G4 upgrade, OX 10.3.5. I'd like to download photos  
from an Olympus SmartMedia card. An OSB reader (by PNY) I bought at  
Staples said it didn't need a driver, but it wouldn't mount.
Apple lied.  And the manufacturer didn't double-check.
Our brand new 15 PB G4, with Panther, cannot talk to 4 of our 6 media  
readers.  One no-name multi-format reader worked without a driver.   
Got our ZiO! USB SmartMedia Reader working by using an ancient driver  
that the Microtech web site says to NOT use on Jaguar or Panther.

After 2 hours on the phone with Apple, I found out that OS X only  
directly supports *some* camera media card readers, and no, a list  
of the supported readers is not available.


I suspect something's wrong with the reader. I've never found one yet  
that needed a driver in OS X.
Wow have you lucked out, Bruce! :)
Any ideas how to make a HD in a IDE-USB box mount on Panther?  The  
drive came from a PB G3 (OS 9.2.2; Jaguar).  It mounts right up on  
another PB and an iMac -  both in OS 9.  But won't mount at all in OS  
X 10.1.5 or Panther.
(Apple's peripheral support SUX)

- Dan
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our purchase of the new PB).

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Re: Maintenance Scripts Are Worth Doing

2004-10-03 Thread Bob
The National Enquirer reports at 2:57 PM -0400 10/3/04, Laurent 
Daudelin wrote:

There are certainly misconception about those scripts, what they do and what
they are useful for.

First of all, NetInfo is almost never used. In my 14 years of using
NeXTStep/Mac OS X, I've never backed up and restored the NetInfo database.
Much of system information is kept in various config files that don't have
anything to do with the NetInfo database.

I wasn't quoting myself, or simply giving my own opinion, I was 
quoting guys who know a whole lot more about it than I do. Vitally 
important was term they used. shrug

As far as I know, none of the scripts will refresh the cache. You have to
use an utility that will just do that, like Panther Cache Cleaner or Onyx.

I stand corrected. I misread a statement and missed the not in not 
system cache files.  Log files are updated, not cache files.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107388 states:
Mac OS X periodically runs background tasks that, in part, remove 
system files that are no longer needed. This includes purging older 
information from log files or deleting certain temporary items. These 
tasks do not run if the computer is shut down or in sleep mode. If 
the tasks do not run, it is possible that certain log files (such as 
system.log) may become very large.

If those scripts were that important, don't you think that Apple would have
put something to run them or accomplish what they do on a regular basis?

Apple did. :-) The scripts will run without any action whatsoever if 
the machine is on. Why are they scheduled at those weird times? I 
assume because they were thought to be the best times to find the 
computer not being used (I seem to recall that the scripts won't run 
if the computer is being used).

Thanks for correcting my misstatement,


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Re: TiBook display replacement (was: TiBook display crisis)

2004-10-03 Thread Dan K
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (gianfranco sciacca) asked:
My question to the list is: are displays and inverter boards / cables 
the same across the entire DVI range (667 MHz to 1GHz), or the 1GHz 
shares parts only with the 867 MHz?
Hardware is the same across the DVI line, with the only difference (of 
which I'm aware) the typeface on the screen bezel changed between the two 
series. Data cables can be interchanged between any TiBooks, and 
inverters are interchangable across the DVI lines. The backlight cable is 
integral with the LCD, soldered directly to the CCFL tube inside the LCD. 
The CCFL is replaceable, but the job ain't for the faint-of-heart.

Also, _any_ TiBook display assembly _can_ be used on any TiBook. Early 
screens of course only show the lower rez on any 'Book. Likewise later 
DVI screens display only the lower rez on pre-DVI 'Books, with garbage 
filling the right hand and bottom edge excess pixels.

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Re: GV Teleport 56 disconnects and bad communication

2004-10-03 Thread Bob
The National Enquirer reports at 7:05 PM +0200 10/3/04, Mikael Byström wrote:

Bob said:

 What are you using for PPP? ARA? FreePPP?

PPP.

Does not compute. :-)

I was asking so that we could check the settings if needed (flow 
control, port speed etc).

 Can you connect a regular phone to that line and/or connector? If so,
 pick up the receiver and dial one numerical digit. Then listen and
 see if you hear that buzz, or any noise at all.

Yes, the line is equally noisy in every stage.

Sounds like that is you primary problem. A call to the phone company 
sounds in order. It may be something as simple as a bad ground 
connection at your house phone box. But they should be able to find 
it and fix it.

 I'll look and see if I can find something about GV modem scripts. Did
 you Google to try to find anything?

Yes, but as my GV Teleport 56 modem is international (code starts with
SB), results were inconclusive. There seem to be no init strings at GVs
site for this model, nor any firmware updates or manuals for that matter.

I'll bet someone on the comp.sys.mac.comm newsgroup would be able to 
help you with those things.

At the moment I'm going to try a reinstallation of the OS. I'll let you
know how it turns out.

Wow, that would be the last thing I would try. Check that, it 
wouldn't even be the last. I don't think your problem has anything at 
all to do with your System.

After trying other changes, your suggestions included (unfortunately this
is a v.90 modem),

Since I had no idea what the problem actually was, a shotgun approach 
was taken, hoping that something might work. Modem strings are pretty 
easy to try.

the problem that comes back every time, no matter what
init I try (some fail completely too), is that it comes to starting PPP
and then it hangs up after a minute or two.

I ran into the same kind of problem many years ago. Unfortunately I 
don't remember what the problem ended up being.

So I'm kinda leaning to some kind of OT error.

I honestly doubt it.

If you don't have another phone line at your location. The easiest 
way to eliminate the computer, modem and OS is to take the hardware 
to a neighbors, or some location where there's a clean phone line, 
and try it there. If it works there then you'll know it's the phone 
line.

I seem to recall someone on the list within the last week or two 
saying that they were very knowledgeable when it came to modems. 
Perhaps they can weigh in with better suggestions. I'll gladly yield 
to their expertise. I haven't seen anyone else offer to help you.


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