Re: How to control fan on Wallstreet in OS X ?

2004-10-30 Thread Mikael Byström
Nils said:

Maybe the fan is OS controlled, and OS X lacks the ability to do it. ?
Since I got my WS, I've been running OS X. So I'm not sure if the fan does
come on when running MacOS 8 or 9.

What version of OS X? Under Jaguar at least the fan did come on. I think
also with XPF and Panther (which I found to be working better on my WS
II/PDQ).

Have you tried a total reset with PMU reset, Open Firmware reset and
removing backup battery? That solved some really difficult problems I had
with my old machine (sold it this summer).


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Re: Wall Street and external DVD drive?

2004-10-30 Thread Mikael Byström
Gary Goldberg said:

   But is the Wall Street fast enough to play a DVD disk?

I think not, due to the very slow graphics and limited VRAM. Possibly on
the internal display perhaps. You don't say under what OS?


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Re: How to control fan on Wallstreet in OS X ?

2004-10-30 Thread Nils
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 12:22:51AM +0200 or thereabouts, Mikael Bystr?m wrote:
 What version of OS X? Under Jaguar at least the fan did come on. I think
 also with XPF and Panther (which I found to be working better on my WS
 II/PDQ).

Currently running 10.3.4 installed with XPF 3.0a17.

 Have you tried a total reset with PMU reset, Open Firmware reset and
 removing backup battery? That solved some really difficult problems I had
 with my old machine (sold it this summer).

Reset the PMU, yes. I haven't attempted to remove the PRAM battery.
Looking at the instructions on PBFixit.com, removing the PRAM battery
appers to involve alot of work. I may have time to do it in a day or so.

I will attempt to reset the OF on the machine shortly. 

Thanks for the suggestions.

-nils

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Re: Wall Street and external DVD drive?

2004-10-30 Thread Ben Dyer
If it's a G4/500 machine, it should be fast enough to do the decoding 
in software, probably under both 9 and X. I'm not sure about the 
mechanics of whether it will work on external displays or internal 
only, but it should at least work. The USB 1.1 is potentially a worry 
though -- 2.0 would be a safer bet.

Cheers,
Ben
On 30 Oct 2004, at 08:25, Mikael Byström wrote:
Gary Goldberg said:
	But is the Wall Street fast enough to play a DVD disk?
I think not, due to the very slow graphics and limited VRAM. Possibly 
on
the internal display perhaps. You don't say under what OS?

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Disk maintenance tool ? gb

2004-10-30 Thread Larry le Mac
I have heard a few things about Norton on OS X and
have avoided it, but I have just finshed sorting all my
music, films, software and data on a number of 120GB
disks and I'd like to run some sort  f disk doctor / file
check and then defragment them.
What is the best tool ?
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Re: Disk maintenance tool ? gb

2004-10-30 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 30/10/04 06:17, Larry le Mac at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have heard a few things about Norton on OS X and
 have avoided it, but I have just finshed sorting all my
 music, films, software and data on a number of 120GB
 disks and I'd like to run some sort  f disk doctor / file
 check and then defragment them.
 
 What is the best tool ?

I've heard people speaking highly of DiskWarrior, but never tried it
myself...

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Re: Wall Street and external DVD drive?

2004-10-30 Thread Mikael Byström
Ben Dyer said:

If it's a G4/500 machine, it should be fast enough to do the decoding 
in software, probably under both 9 and X.
Doesn't the native DVDplayer need hardware decoding, or was that just
earlier versions? I can only say that a 400 Titanium is not enough to
really really cut it if I use software only decoding applications like
VLC. Also, I don't see how a data stream over USB 1.1 is enough. Any
glitch there must affect the quality of playing. But the idea must be
worth a try I suppose.

I'm really disappointed how bad some apps with a 400Mhz G4. Many
wellprogrammed apps do work fine. Of course 500Mhz is 25% faster, but the
graphics in the TiBook is much improved. at lease compared to the original WS.

Talking about performance, have any of you read the articles that explain
why some apps, like Logic, is faster on Ti 500Mhz G4 (and may even be
with a 400) than a Ti 550Mhz and even 667Mhz machine? Something to do
with Memory Bandwidth in the processor I think. The 550 introduced the
PowerPC 7440 as opposed to the earlier PowerPC 7410. If the results
differ in OS X I don't know, but it seems likely.  http://
www.xlr8yourmac.com/archives/dec01/121401.html


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Re: How to control fan on Wallstreet in OS X ?

2004-10-30 Thread Mikael Byström
Nils said:

Sadly, since there aren't any temperature reporting programs
for OS X,

Ehum:

Temperature Monitor is an application to read out all available
temperature  sensors in Macintosh computers..
We try to detect all sensors on as many Macintosh computer types as
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changed but the names are not (specifications aresubject to change
without notice). The particular graphics card  and hard disk
configuration used is also important because these parts can  include
independent sensors, too.
http://www.bresink.de/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html


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Re: Disk maintenance tool ? gb

2004-10-30 Thread Larry le Mac
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I've heard people speaking highly of DiskWarrior,
but never tried it myself...
Does DiskWarrior defragment disks ???
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Re: Replacement DVD Drive for Pismo

2004-10-30 Thread K

I know I could buy her a new DVD drive for the Pismo, either s/hand 
via eBay or even (at considerable expense...) new. But this is an old 
machine, and I'm not sure I want to spend too much money keeping it 
fettled. The other possibility that's occurred to me is to buy an 
external firewire optical drive. I believe LaCie do one (several?). 
Has anyone got any experience of running an external firewire DVD 
drive on an older PB? - Pismo or Lombard via a firewire port in a card?

Tom Burke
First off you may be able to fix your DVD drive. If the laser reader 
gets dust on it the drive will run as yours does but won't be able to 
read the data on the disk. You can try either a CD lens cleaner disk 
or one of those small cans of compressed air sold for camera lens etc. 
This has fixed many drives thought dead.
I have a Pioneer DVD RW 105(A05) drive which I put in a Firewire 
case. ADS Pyro brand never had any problem with this combo. It is seen 
as an Apple Super drive by both my desktop and Pismo machines. With 
Jaguar I needed some hacks for everything to work. Panther everything 
works with no hacks on my Apple desktop. Even iDVD and DVD player work 
fine. best of luck. Will S


Check the system profiler and see if it is an LG drive...I had one in 
this Pismo and one day back in July, it suddenly stopped mounting DVD's 
but did mount CD's...Called A/C and they tried firmware update etc...no 
joy there so a kind tech sent me a replacement..also an LG..Now, after 
playing only about 12 DVD's since mid July, this one is doing the exact 
same thing...It whirrs and stops ..What a POS!!! I do have an external 
LaCie  burner (Pioneer 106-D) that works great but I need the internal 
for the Pismo. I will try the air can and see if that works...If I do 
have to get another drive, Iunderstand that the Matsushita's are much 
better..However I  am leery of trying to   tear the case apart to put a 
new drive inside of the current carrier...If you have any success, 
please let us know...I will do likewise...
Regards,
Mike K

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Pismo DVD Drive

2004-10-30 Thread K

I know I could buy her a new DVD drive for the Pismo, either s/hand 
via eBay or even (at considerable expense...) new. But this is an old 
machine, and I'm not sure I want to spend too much money keeping it 
fettled. The other possibility that's occurred to me is to buy an 
external firewire optical drive. I believe LaCie do one (several?). 
Has anyone got any experience of running an external firewire DVD 
drive on an older PB? - Pismo or Lombard via a firewire port in a card?

Tom Burke
First off you may be able to fix your DVD drive. If the laser reader 
gets dust on it the drive will run as yours does but won't be able to 
read the data on the disk. You can try either a CD lens cleaner disk 
or one of those small cans of compressed air sold for camera lens etc. 
This has fixed many drives thought dead.
I have a Pioneer DVD RW 105(A05) drive which I put in a Firewire 
case. ADS Pyro brand never had any problem with this combo. It is seen 
as an Apple Super drive by both my desktop and Pismo machines. With 
Jaguar I needed some hacks for everything to work. Panther everything 
works with no hacks on my Apple desktop. Even iDVD and DVD player work 
fine. best of luck. Will S


Check the system profiler and see if it is an LG drive...I had one in 
this Pismo and one day back in July, it suddenly stopped mounting DVD's 
but did mount CD's...Called A/C and they tried firmware update etc...no 
joy there so a kind tech sent me a replacement..also an LG..Now, after 
playing only about 12 DVD's since mid July, this one is doing the exact 
same thing...It whirrs and stops ..What a POS!!! I do have an external 
LaCie  burner (Pioneer 106-D) that works great but I need the internal 
for the Pismo. I will try the air can and see if that works...If I do 
have to get another drive, Iunderstand that the Matsushita's are much 
better..However I  am leery of trying to   tear the case apart to put a 
new drive inside of the current carrier...If you have any success, 
please let us know...I will do likewise...
Regards,
Mike K

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Re: Wall Street and external DVD drive?

2004-10-30 Thread Gary Goldberg
 From: Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Wall Street and external DVD drive?
 Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:50:50 +1000
 
 If it's a G4/500 machine, it should be fast enough to do the decoding=20
 in software, probably under both 9 and X. I'm not sure about the=20
 mechanics of whether it will work on external displays or internal=20
 only, but it should at least work. The USB 1.1 is potentially a worry=20
 though -- 2.0 would be a safer bet.
 
 On 30 Oct 2004, at 08:25, Mikael Bystr=F6m wrote:
 
  Gary Goldberg said:
 
   But is the Wall Street fast enough to play a DVD disk?
 
  I think not, due to the very slow graphics and limited VRAM. Possibly=20=
  on the internal display perhaps. You don't say under what OS?

Three posts from PBParts.com say I won't likely be able to do it:

The Wallstreet was not originally equipped to run software DVD Decoders and
it required a hardware cardbus decoder card to function properly.  I have
also never seen a USB 1.1 External DVD player that works well.

Your only choice to Play a DVD will be VLC on OS X.
Anyway, as the Video card is not supported, I don't
know if it'll work.
Apple DVD Player (OS 8.6 and OS 9) needs an internal
DVD Drive to work.
Also, DVD Player (OS X) doesn't support your machine,
thanks to Apple.

I'm running OS 8.6 on my Lombard because OS X don't
have DVD Playback on this machine too.
A few messages ago, someone said the there was a Combo
(CD-R  DVD) for the Wallstreet series, but it was
discontinued.

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Re: Wall Street and external DVD drive?

2004-10-30 Thread Ben Dyer
My understanding is that OS X supports software DVD decoding on any 
machine fast enough to do it, but does not support the hardware 
decoders that were shipped with some Wallstreets. Thus, if the 
processor has been upgraded in this machine, I do not see why it 
shouldn't work. Even if he has to use VLC, a G4/500 should be able to 
decode DVD video in software.

Cheers,
Ben
On 31 Oct 2004, at 00:31, Gary Goldberg wrote:
From: Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wall Street and external DVD drive?
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:50:50 +1000
If it's a G4/500 machine, it should be fast enough to do the 
decoding=20
in software, probably under both 9 and X. I'm not sure about the=20
mechanics of whether it will work on external displays or internal=20
only, but it should at least work. The USB 1.1 is potentially a 
worry=20
though -- 2.0 would be a safer bet.

On 30 Oct 2004, at 08:25, Mikael Bystr=F6m wrote:
Gary Goldberg said:
 But is the Wall Street fast enough to play a DVD disk?
I think not, due to the very slow graphics and limited VRAM. 
Possibly=20=
 on the internal display perhaps. You don't say under what OS?
Three posts from PBParts.com say I won't likely be able to do it:
The Wallstreet was not originally equipped to run software DVD 
Decoders and
it required a hardware cardbus decoder card to function properly.  I 
have
also never seen a USB 1.1 External DVD player that works well.

Your only choice to Play a DVD will be VLC on OS X.
Anyway, as the Video card is not supported, I don't
know if it'll work.
Apple DVD Player (OS 8.6 and OS 9) needs an internal
DVD Drive to work.
Also, DVD Player (OS X) doesn't support your machine,
thanks to Apple.
I'm running OS 8.6 on my Lombard because OS X don't
have DVD Playback on this machine too.
A few messages ago, someone said the there was a Combo
(CD-R  DVD) for the Wallstreet series, but it was
discontinued.

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Re: Disk maintenence tools

2004-10-30 Thread invicta
On 30 okt 2004, at 14:42, G-Books wrote:
From: Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Disk maintenance tool ? gb
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:46:31 +0200
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've heard people speaking highly of DiskWarrior,
but never tried it myself...
Does DiskWarrior defragment disks ???
Larry
Read here what DW does and how. It is acclaimed to be the best for a 
Mac.

http://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/
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Re: How to control fan on Wallstreet in OS X ?

2004-10-30 Thread Nils
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 01:39:01PM +0200 or thereabouts, Mikael Bystr?m wrote:
 Nils said:
 
 Sadly, since there aren't any temperature reporting programs
 for OS X,
 
 Ehum:
 
 Temperature Monitor is an application to read out all available
 temperature  sensors in Macintosh computers..
 We try to detect all sensors on as many Macintosh computer types as
 possible.  However, a prediction which sensors are available in which
 models is not possible,  because Apple very often releases silent
 product updates, where  the hardware equipments of some models are
 changed but the names are not (specifications aresubject to change
 without notice). The particular graphics card  and hard disk
 configuration used is also important because these parts can  include
 independent sensors, too.
 http://www.bresink.de/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html

Maybe I worded that poorly. Even tho in context I believe it was
easy to understand what I was saying. I should have made that 
statement more specific. Maybe it should have said..

Sadly, since there are no temperature reporting programs which
support the thermal sensors in the Wallstreet I laptop for OS X...

Anne Judge was kind enough to suggest Temperature Monitor, which I 
tried and found that it does not currently support the sensors built
into the Wallstreet I. Or atleast, my version of the WS I.

Now, theoretically, one of the developers for Temperature Monitor 
could figure out how the sensors in the WS I work and equip the application
to support reading from them. But at this point, it does not.

In reality, I could help move the development along by purchasing a 
registration key. As it states on their site..

...the development of Temperature Monitor and Hardware Monitor is very
costly because the necessary data has to be determined by reverse
engineering and tests run on a variety of computer models.
Please support the development  of the applications by purchasing a
registration key...

I wouldn't have a problem doing that, if the product already supported
my hardware to some degree and additional development was being persued.

-nils


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Re: Disk maintenence tools

2004-10-30 Thread Mikael Byström
invicta said:

It is acclaimed to be the best for a 
Mac.

For what it does, yes, it is the best IMHO. It doesn't exactly match the
feature set of Techtool though.


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Re: How to control fan on Wallstreet in OS X ?

2004-10-30 Thread Mikael Byström
Nils said:

I wouldn't have a problem doing that, if the product already supported
my hardware to some degree and additional development was being persued.
Talk to the developer. I have on going relationships with many. It can be
very rewarding.

Anyway, Temp readings in the WS are also dependent on the CPU daughter
card. So if the CPU supports internal temp reading, then it will be
accessible for many apps like TM. For example the BlueChip CPU cards from
Powerlogix give believable readings. So what ever the sensors in the
original CPU cards of the WS's are, those are different somehow from
other cards. maybe someone else can tell what the differences are?

Regarding the heat problems, I'm surprised no-one mentioned cooling
paste. When I had heat problems with a BlueChip G3 card in the WS II,
applying the correct amount of cooling paste and adding a custom made
*copper* plate on top of the CPU (I measured the exact thickness) and
under the heatsink, decreased the temperature from excessive temps around
90°C to only 59°C. At 93°C somewhere, the machine froze, so it made all
the difference.
Unfortunately I then also learnt that none of the BlueChip CPUs could be
re-flashed for another model of WS (Basically WS vs WS II/PDQ) so
graphics was black.
I'm sure you can do something also in your situation for improving heat
dissipation. Please note that my fan did run and it didn't help half as
good for dissipation than a copper plate and cooling paste.




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Re: Disk maintenence tools

2004-10-30 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED]

For what it does, yes, it is the best IMHO. It doesn't
exactly match the feature set of Techtool though.
It seems to focus on recovery more that preventive.
Does TTP do defrag ?
I take it Norton isn't good...
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Re: Safari question

2004-10-30 Thread Timothy Luoma


.. Original Message ...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:34:38 +0100 Miche Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I haven't tried Opera or Mozilla in OS X (oh, and I just remembered 
there's another browser called Internet Explorer - I'd forgotten it 
existed) so I can't comment on those.


I am a bit late here, but wanted to say that those ads are likely Flash and 
can be disabled with two keystrokes in Opera (press F12 and then 
check/uncheck disable plugins).

Also Omniweb has preferences that will let you disable Flash, etc for 
specific sites while enabling it for others.

Both are well worth the money.  Opera has an ad version tghat you can use 
Google ads, and I think Omniweb has a 30 day demo.




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Re: Disk maintenence tools

2004-10-30 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 30/10/04 13:22, Larry le Mac at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 For what it does, yes, it is the best IMHO. It doesn't
 exactly match the feature set of Techtool though.
 
 It seems to focus on recovery more that preventive.
 
 Does TTP do defrag ?
 
 I take it Norton isn't good...
 

You want to stay away from anything that has the name Symantec on it or
near it. I've only heard horror stories about Norton, not only on the net,
but from co-workers who had the bad idea to install it...

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called a `tube' in the U.S. or a `valve' in England; another hackish term is
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Re: Disk maintenence tools - Drive 10/X ?

2004-10-30 Thread Larry le Mac
What about Drive 10/X ?
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Re: Disk maintenence tools

2004-10-30 Thread dan_A
On Oct 30, 2004, at 2:58 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
on 30/10/04 13:22, Larry le Mac at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED]

For what it does, yes, it is the best IMHO. It doesn't
exactly match the feature set of Techtool though.
It seems to focus on recovery more that preventive.
DiskWarrior is a life saver and fixes and rebuilds your fragmented 
directory (which happens in time with normal use on all computers)... a 
unique solution and supremely effective. The latest version, 3.02 is 
the only one that works with OS 10.3.5. The previous versions came with 
a separate disk defragger... unfortunately they no longer make it 
available on the DW CD. If it still exists, you would have to buy it 
separately. Techtool is a way to go. But whatever else you have for 
disk maintenance/recovery, you should invest in DW because no other 
utility does the type of fix it does. It has recovered a zonked drive 
many times for me... I love it.

PS- I'm not affiliated with Alsoft, the maker of DiskWarrior.
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Re: Replacement DVD Drive for Pismo

2004-10-30 Thread csean
on 30/10/2004 14:42, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know I could buy her a new DVD drive for the Pismo, either s/hand
 via eBay or even (at considerable expense...) new. But this is an old
 machine, and I'm not sure I want to spend too much money keeping it
 fettled. The other possibility that's occurred to me is to buy an
 external firewire optical drive. I believe LaCie do one (several?).
 Has anyone got any experience of running an external firewire DVD
 drive on an older PB? - Pismo or Lombard via a firewire port in a
 card?
 
 Tom Burke


Just get an internal Combo or Superdrive and swap it for the defective DVD.
Lots of different brands and models work, just check xlr8yourmac under the
Drive Database and Pismo.
I've personally used Sony, Samsung, Matshita and LG combos, as well as
Panasonic and LG Superdrives, in my Pismo. They all worked. Combos tend to
cost $50-60 on ebay or online stores, and Superdrives have fallen to the
$120-140 range. You can even use the slot-loading drives from G4 powerbooks.
You might be able to find a Combo from somebody who upgraded to a
Superdrive. 

Good luck.
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Re: How to control fan on Wallstreet in OS X ?

2004-10-30 Thread Nils
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 06:46:06PM +0200 or thereabouts, Mikael Bystr?m wrote:
 Talk to the developer. I have on going relationships with many. It can be
 very rewarding.

Great suggestion. I'll be inquiring.

 Anyway, Temp readings in the WS are also dependent on the CPU daughter
 card. So if the CPU supports internal temp reading, then it will be
 accessible for many apps like TM. For example the BlueChip CPU cards from
 Powerlogix give believable readings. So what ever the sensors in the
 original CPU cards of the WS's are, those are different somehow from
 other cards. maybe someone else can tell what the differences are?

Great points. Hopefully someone can provide useful information regarding
this. I've yet to move forward to get a faster cpu for the WS.
Now that the laptop has lots of ram, replacing the 6.4GB with a 40GB
drive is the next upgrade.

 Regarding the heat problems, I'm surprised no-one mentioned cooling
 paste. When I had heat problems with a BlueChip G3 card in the WS II,
 applying the correct amount of cooling paste and adding a custom made
 *copper* plate on top of the CPU (I measured the exact thickness) and
 under the heatsink, decreased the temperature from excessive temps around
 90?C to only 59?C. At 93?C somewhere, the machine froze, so it made all
 the difference.

I had read on some obscure site about a fellow who made a custom aluminum
heatsink for his WS. I thought about doing this in mine. That was right
when I got the machine and had read about it making lots of heat. But after
using it for a while, I found it to be quite acceptable. 

Before I go that route, I want to know exactly whats up with the fan not
coming on. Once I've that figured out, then adding additional cooling
can be investigated.

 I'm sure you can do something also in your situation for improving heat
 dissipation. Please note that my fan did run and it didn't help half as
 good for dissipation than a copper plate and cooling paste.

What OS were you running when the fan was coming on?

Thank you for your helpful comments and suggestions.

-nils

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