Re: Erasing hard drive
Subject: Re: Erasing hard drive I too, have used Panther on my Pismo since it came out up to 10.3.6 and has worked flawlessly. Prior to that I was using Jaguar from its introduction to 10.2.8 and it also worked flawlessly. So maybe the drive? Scott Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 02:14:34 -0500 Subject: Re: Erasing hard drive From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 30/01/05 13:39, Amber at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/30/05 10:03 AM, Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Panther have a disk corruption issue? I installed 10.3 and updates (at the time) on a pismo. Worked fine for 2 weeks then one day I got the wonderful question mark. I started up from the CD and tried to repair disk permissions, but disk first aid could not find an install to repair. So I reformat and reinstall. Everything fine for a week and the same thing happens. I replaced the hard drive thinking it had gone south, and install 10.2.8 and have had no problems since. Out of curiosity I installed the same 12 Gig HD from the Pismo (the one I thought was bad) into my Lombard and reformat but install 10.2.8 this time. It's been running without a hitch for 4 months! Apple of course will refuse to acknowledge that any of their software might be causing problems but this is all I can link my problems too. Soon after installing the update, things started to grind to a halt. Before that, I had been running the previous OS and had no problems. The last OS update has caused no end of problems. Even the start up is agonizingly slow !! I have spent ages on the phone with AppleCare trying to resolve all the problems I've been having - i.e. Programs not quitting fully or requiring repeated force quits, crashes, endless spinning balls, extensive delays in programs, and then the disk drive not working. Anyway, I have no choice but to install Panther after I do my HD erase as it is on the Install/restore disk that came with the PB. I am hoping I can install Jaguar over the top of Panther when the hard drive is sorted out by the erase. Before I got my 17, I've used my Pismo with 10.3 since it was released and never had any problem. I think your drive is faulty... -Laurent. -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Erasing hard drive
Does Panther have a disk corruption issue? I installed 10.3 and updates (at the time) on a pismo. Worked fine for 2 weeks then one day I got the wonderful question mark. I started up from the CD and tried to repair disk permissions, but disk first aid could not find an install to repair. So I reformat and reinstall. Everything fine for a week and the same thing happens. I replaced the hard drive thinking it had gone south, and install 10.2.8 and have had no problems since. Out of curiosity I installed the same 12 Gig HD from the Pismo (the one I thought was bad) into my Lombard and reformat but install 10.2.8 this time. It's been running without a hitch for 4 months! Amber wrote: On 1/29/05 9:09 PM, Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amber, Food for thought: I too was having problems with one of my PB's and decided to try something: I installed OS X Panther on my external Firewire drive; the drive that was meant to simply back up all of my data so I could re-format my main internal drive. What I found was quite disturbing. . .the exact same problems occurred running from the external drive only after about 30 minutes in operation! While this may not be true for you, I'm still at a loss as what is causing my issues, which is odd delays in some of my apps. Just food for thought. Hi Zoltan, Although I did not initially realize it, I am now thinking that there is a pretty good chance that Panther may be responsible or partly responsible for the problems I have been having. I have had incredibly slow start ups, endless crashes, and significant delays in some of the applications. Then the disk drive stopped working properly. I am hoping that the erase will work and my PB will be back to working like it was before. If not, I will know it is a hardware issue. Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Erasing hard drive
On 1/30/05 10:03 AM, Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Panther have a disk corruption issue? I installed 10.3 and updates (at the time) on a pismo. Worked fine for 2 weeks then one day I got the wonderful question mark. I started up from the CD and tried to repair disk permissions, but disk first aid could not find an install to repair. So I reformat and reinstall. Everything fine for a week and the same thing happens. I replaced the hard drive thinking it had gone south, and install 10.2.8 and have had no problems since. Out of curiosity I installed the same 12 Gig HD from the Pismo (the one I thought was bad) into my Lombard and reformat but install 10.2.8 this time. It's been running without a hitch for 4 months! Apple of course will refuse to acknowledge that any of their software might be causing problems but this is all I can link my problems too. Soon after installing the update, things started to grind to a halt. Before that, I had been running the previous OS and had no problems. The last OS update has caused no end of problems. Even the start up is agonizingly slow !! I have spent ages on the phone with AppleCare trying to resolve all the problems I've been having - i.e. Programs not quitting fully or requiring repeated force quits, crashes, endless spinning balls, extensive delays in programs, and then the disk drive not working. Anyway, I have no choice but to install Panther after I do my HD erase as it is on the Install/restore disk that came with the PB. I am hoping I can install Jaguar over the top of Panther when the hard drive is sorted out by the erase. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Erasing hard drive
On 1/30/05 1:03 PM, Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Panther have a disk corruption issue? I installed 10.3 and updates (at the time) on a pismo. Worked fine for 2 weeks then one day I got the wonderful question mark. I started up from the CD and tried to repair disk permissions, but disk first aid could not find an install to repair. So I reformat and reinstall. Everything fine for a week and the same thing happens. I replaced the hard drive thinking it had gone south, and install 10.2.8 and have had no problems since. Out of curiosity I installed the same 12 Gig HD from the Pismo (the one I thought was bad) into my Lombard and reformat but install 10.2.8 this time. It's been running without a hitch for 4 months! If there is I haven¹t seen it. I¹ve had Panther installed on 28 machines since it was released and haven¹t had a problem with any of them. (24 G4 iMacs, 1 2001 QuickSilver, 1 15² alBook, 1 dual USB iBook, 1 tangerine iBook) I did have to reinstall the OS in my alBook but that was in relation to a failed update, not everyday usage. Panther is finicky about RAM. We¹ve seen it fail to install with certain RAM upgrades. And just to prove how finicky it is, having installed without the upgrade, it often runs fine when the upgrade is reinstalled. Not that I¹d trust that RAM upgrade personally. I¹m thankful for S.M.A.R.T. drives. In the past I¹ve had drives I was suspicious of but wasn¹t entirely certain about. When you work for a school district you can¹t just dump a drive you *think* is defective. Today when S.M.A.R.T. tells me the drive is untrustworthy that¹s enough for my tech guy. A simple explanation for your drive being fine in the Lombard is heat - it is entirely possible that the drive is subject to less heat in the Lombard than it was in the Pismo. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Erasing hard drive
Dean wrote: Does Panther have a disk corruption issue? I installed 10.3 and updates (at the time) on a pismo. Worked fine for 2 weeks then one day I got the wonderful question mark. I started up from the CD and tried to repair disk permissions, but disk first aid could not find an install to repair. So I reformat and reinstall. Everything fine for a week and the same thing happens. I replaced the hard drive thinking it had gone south, and install 10.2.8 and have had no problems since. Out of curiosity I installed the same 12 Gig HD from the Pismo (the one I thought was bad) into my Lombard and reformat but install 10.2.8 this time. It's been running without a hitch for 4 months! Sounds more like a flakey drive to me. It could also be a hardware issue in the Pismo. I've been running Panther on my iBook 700, BW 400, and Sawtooth 450 for a long time and have had no issues that couldn't be corrected by repairing permissions occasionally. Once I get some more RAM and a bigger hard drive for my Tangerine iMac (333, currently running Jag), I plan to upgrade it too. JR -- This sig contains no political, religious, or commercial content whatsoever. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Erasing hard drive with two partitions
I have an iBook 800 with OS 10.2 on it. I have an external firewire drive which I originally formatted with two partitions. I would like to reformat the external drive to one partition only. How do I do that? TIA Lowell -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Erasing hard drive with two partitions
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:12:48 -0700, Lowell Neudeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an iBook 800 with OS 10.2 on it. I have an external firewire drive which I originally formatted with two partitions. I would like to reformat the external drive to one partition only. How do I do that? TIA Lowell Use Disk Utility in the applications-utilities folder and click on the disk you want to repartition. From there you can erase the partitions and reformat the disk as one volume. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Erasing hard drive
on 30/01/05 13:39, Amber at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/30/05 10:03 AM, Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Panther have a disk corruption issue? I installed 10.3 and updates (at the time) on a pismo. Worked fine for 2 weeks then one day I got the wonderful question mark. I started up from the CD and tried to repair disk permissions, but disk first aid could not find an install to repair. So I reformat and reinstall. Everything fine for a week and the same thing happens. I replaced the hard drive thinking it had gone south, and install 10.2.8 and have had no problems since. Out of curiosity I installed the same 12 Gig HD from the Pismo (the one I thought was bad) into my Lombard and reformat but install 10.2.8 this time. It's been running without a hitch for 4 months! Apple of course will refuse to acknowledge that any of their software might be causing problems but this is all I can link my problems too. Soon after installing the update, things started to grind to a halt. Before that, I had been running the previous OS and had no problems. The last OS update has caused no end of problems. Even the start up is agonizingly slow !! I have spent ages on the phone with AppleCare trying to resolve all the problems I've been having - i.e. Programs not quitting fully or requiring repeated force quits, crashes, endless spinning balls, extensive delays in programs, and then the disk drive not working. Anyway, I have no choice but to install Panther after I do my HD erase as it is on the Install/restore disk that came with the PB. I am hoping I can install Jaguar over the top of Panther when the hard drive is sorted out by the erase. Before I got my 17, I've used my Pismo with 10.3 since it was released and never had any problem. I think your drive is faulty... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] drone n.: Ignorant sales or customer service personnel in computer or electronics superstores. Characterized by a lack of even superficial knowledge about the products they sell, yet possessed of the conviction that they are more competent than their hacker customers. Usage: That video board probably sucks, it was recommended by a drone at Fry's In the year 2000, their natural habitats include Fry's Electronics, Best Buy, and CompUSA. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Erasing hard drive
After a week of finding various firewire drives to back my hard drive up to, I am finally ready to erase my hard drive and hope that all the problems I have been having with the PB will disappear. Just wondering - would you guys suggest that I zero all data and start from scratch or would a normal erase likely resolve the software problems that may be responsible for plaguing my PB and causing the superdrive to stop working properly ? Thanks, Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Erasing hard drive
on 29/01/05 23:16, Amber at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a week of finding various firewire drives to back my hard drive up to, I am finally ready to erase my hard drive and hope that all the problems I have been having with the PB will disappear. Just wondering - would you guys suggest that I zero all data and start from scratch or would a normal erase likely resolve the software problems that may be responsible for plaguing my PB and causing the superdrive to stop working properly ? Thanks, Amber You don't need to do a zero all data. Just a standard erase in Disk Utility would do fine... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] fudge: 1. vt. To perform in an incomplete but marginally acceptable way, particularly with respect to the writing of a program. I didn't feel like going through that pain and suffering, so I fudged it -- I'll fix it later. 2. n. The resulting code. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Erasing hard drive
On 1/29/05 8:25 PM, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering - would you guys suggest that I zero all data and start from scratch or would a normal erase likely resolve the software problems... You don't need to do a zero all data. Just a standard erase in Disk Utility would do fine... -Laurent. Great - Thanks Laurent !! Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Erasing hard drive
On Jan 29, 2005, at 8:47 PM, Amber wrote: On 1/29/05 8:25 PM, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering - would you guys suggest that I zero all data and start from scratch or would a normal erase likely resolve the software problems... You don't need to do a zero all data. Just a standard erase in Disk Utility would do fine... -Laurent. Great - Thanks Laurent !! Amber The only real need to zero all data is if you fear someone would try to recover anything from your drive in the unlikely event someone stole your computer AND if you actually had data that would be considered necessary to find/recover. Yes, if you don't zero it out, it is possible to recover data from the drive after a re-format. But, this data would not be found by standard software running over it. In other words, Laurent is correct in saying that zero out data is something you really don't have to do. For me, working for the government, it's a requirement to use the zero out option for obvious reasons. Just wanted to add my two cents! Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Erasing hard drive
On Jan 29, 2005, at 8:16 PM, Amber wrote: After a week of finding various firewire drives to back my hard drive up to, I am finally ready to erase my hard drive and hope that all the problems I have been having with the PB will disappear. Just wondering - would you guys suggest that I zero all data and start from scratch or would a normal erase likely resolve the software problems that may be responsible for plaguing my PB and causing the superdrive to stop working properly ? Thanks, Amber Amber, Food for thought: I too was having problems with one of my PB's and decided to try something: I installed OS X Panther on my external Firewire drive; the drive that was meant to simply back up all of my data so I could re-format my main internal drive. What I found was quite disturbing. . .the exact same problems occurred running from the external drive only after about 30 minutes in operation! While this may not be true for you, I'm still at a loss as what is causing my issues, which is odd delays in some of my apps. Just food for thought. . . Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Erasing hard drive
On 1/29/05 9:09 PM, Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amber, Food for thought: I too was having problems with one of my PB's and decided to try something: I installed OS X Panther on my external Firewire drive; the drive that was meant to simply back up all of my data so I could re-format my main internal drive. What I found was quite disturbing. . .the exact same problems occurred running from the external drive only after about 30 minutes in operation! While this may not be true for you, I'm still at a loss as what is causing my issues, which is odd delays in some of my apps. Just food for thought. Hi Zoltan, Although I did not initially realize it, I am now thinking that there is a pretty good chance that Panther may be responsible or partly responsible for the problems I have been having. I have had incredibly slow start ups, endless crashes, and significant delays in some of the applications. Then the disk drive stopped working properly. I am hoping that the erase will work and my PB will be back to working like it was before. If not, I will know it is a hardware issue. Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---