Re: Help w/ Pismo!
On Sep 4, 2004, at 5:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Daystar Technologies, with whom I have done business before (and I live withing walking distance from) says they can re-flash the ROM; just waiting to hear what the damage will be... Craig W. Atlanta, GA Now that is some good news. Since Daystar does chip swapping (I believe) on CPU upgrades, I have good faith that they could reflash the ROM. But this changes the cause of the problem. Since the flash was complete, the flash loaded the wrong data into ROM and caused your problem and why it sat there 'twitching' for 30 minutes. I think this might either be one of two things: You said you shut down the machine first, this might have an effect, or the data used for the flash wasn't properly loaded. Did you actually shut down the machine at any point? If you did, then I would wager that caused the problem. If you did a restart, then the fault is in Software Update on OS 9, as it downloaded something with a bad checksum. Regards, Adam Thayer -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Help w/ Pismo!
In a message dated 9/5/04 12:32:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now that is some good news. Since Daystar does chip swapping (I believe) on CPU upgrades, I have good faith that they could reflash the ROM. Yeah. Good, but I have NO faith that it will be FREE(!). But this changes the cause of the problem. Since the flash was complete, the flash loaded the wrong data into ROM and caused your problem and why it sat there 'twitching' for 30 minutes. I think this might either be one of two things: You said you shut down the machine first, this might have an effect, or the data used for the flash wasn't properly loaded. Well, it does not matter, since I took the HD out of the Pismo, and put it in my Lombard, started it up, and erased the ROM update program. Did you actually shut down the machine at any point? After it completed the progress bar and then went into a flashing pram/sleep lamp for about 30 minutes (when theinstructions said it would restart), yes, I did turn it off. If you did, then I would wager that caused the problem. If you did a restart, then the fault is in Software Update on OS 9, as it downloaded something with a bad checksum. No, it never allowed me to restart. After it loaded and went into the aformentioned flashing light mode, after restarting it did the short tone and flashing light mode. I am DONE with ROM... Craig W. Atlanta GA -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Help w/ Pismo!
I am referring to before the flash started, but after you started the process in Software Update as you described in your first post. I am aware that pretty much nothing was done once the flash upgrade progress bar started, and the damage was done before that. I was asking the questions to get an idea of exactly what you did from the point you got the Software Update dialog, to the point where the ROM flash progress bar started. Regards, Adam Thayer On Sep 5, 2004, at 10:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/5/04 12:32:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now that is some good news. Since Daystar does chip swapping (I believe) on CPU upgrades, I have good faith that they could reflash the ROM. Yeah. Good, but I have NO faith that it will be FREE(!). But this changes the cause of the problem. Since the flash was complete, the flash loaded the wrong data into ROM and caused your problem and why it sat there 'twitching' for 30 minutes. I think this might either be one of two things: You said you shut down the machine first, this might have an effect, or the data used for the flash wasn't properly loaded. Well, it does not matter, since I took the HD out of the Pismo, and put it in my Lombard, started it up, and erased the ROM update program. Did you actually shut down the machine at any point? After it completed the progress bar and then went into a flashing pram/sleep lamp for about 30 minutes (when theinstructions said it would restart), yes, I did turn it off. If you did, then I would wager that caused the problem. If you did a restart, then the fault is in Software Update on OS 9, as it downloaded something with a bad checksum. No, it never allowed me to restart. After it loaded and went into the aformentioned flashing light mode, after restarting it did the short tone and flashing light mode. I am DONE with ROM... Craig W. Atlanta GA -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Help w/ Pismo!
Well, here is the meaning of the tones (From the Apple Service Manuals for the Pismo): 1 beep No RAM is installed or detected. 2 beeps EDO memory is installed. The PowerBook (FireWire) ships with SDRAM SO-DIMMs and does not accept EDO memory. 3 beeps No RAM banks passed memory testing. 4 or 5 beeps Bad checksum for the remainder of the boot ROM. The ROM (which is located on the microprocessor module) is bad. What this means is that since you got 4 beeps, the ROM upgrade never got complete. The ROM flashing probably got interrupted. Tell me, what did you do after you heard the one long beep? Also, the flashing instructions I read say that you shouldn't shut down, so that all the data needed to flash the firmware is where it is supposed to be. I would like to know a little more detail on what you did *exactly* so I can at least let you know where it went wrong, exactly. To be blunt the processor is not repairable without seeing if Apple themselves are willing to fix a bad ROM flash, and they might charge you more than it would cost to grab a 400Mhz processor. Regards, Adam Thayer On Sep 3, 2004, at 5:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/3/04 5:31:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay; played with my Pismo some moreNOW when I try to start it up, I get four, even tone slow beeps (NOT the tone of death) and the PRAM/sleep lamp starts flashing in cycles of four... So; what level of Hades has my processor gone to NOW?!? Could it be another board ? Maybe the power board ? Doubtful, since it's only doing this with one of the 400mhz processors I have; with the other one it is working fine. I guess it's time to Cowboy up get another processor; I mussed this one up. Craig W. Atlanta, GA Power corrupts. Absolute power's a blast. -- John Fund -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Help w/ Pismo!
In a message dated 9/4/04 10:24:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 4 or 5 beeps Bad checksum for the remainder of the boot ROM. The ROM (which is located on the microprocessor module) is bad. Yup... that is what I am getting... What this means is that since you got 4 beeps, the ROM upgrade never got complete. The ROM flashing probably got interrupted. Tell me, what did you do after you heard the one long beep? I let go of the Apple+Power key. I then saw a progress bar that went all the way to the end; then the screen went off and the pram/sleep lamp began flashing as nauseum; after 30 minutes of that, I pressed the restart key... Also, the flashing instructions I read say that you shouldn't shut down, so that all the data needed to flash the firmware is where it is supposed to be. I would like to know a little more detail on what you did *exactly* so I can at least let you know where it went wrong, exactly. I guess I should have just left it alone(!) until well after the time I allow ed it... To be blunt the processor is not repairable without seeing if Apple themselves are willing to fix a bad ROM flash, and they might charge you more than it would cost to grab a 400Mhz processor. Well, Daystar Technologies, with whom I have done business before (and I live withing walking distance from) says they can re-flash the ROM; just waiting to hear what the damage will be... Craig W. Atlanta, GA -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Help w/ Pismo!
In a message dated 9/2/04 2:55:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remove every Battery (also the PRAM one) and AC Adapter. Leave the PowerBook without Power for two hours or more. Then, press the RESET key located on the Back. Boot from the CD and check installing OS 9.0.4. Okay; played with my Pismo some moreNOW when I try to start it up, I get four, even tone slow beeps (NOT the tone of death) and the PRAM/sleep lamp starts flashing in cycles of four... So; what level of Hades has my processor gone to NOW?!? Craig W. Atlanta, GA Power corrupts. Absolute power's a blast. -- John Fund -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Help w/ Pismo!
In a message dated 9/2/04 2:55:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remove every Battery (also the PRAM one) and AC Adapter. Leave the PowerBook without Power for two hours or more. Then, press the RESET key located on the Back. Boot from the CD and check installing OS 9.0.4. Okay; played with my Pismo some moreNOW when I try to start it up, I get four, even tone slow beeps (NOT the tone of death) and the PRAM/sleep lamp starts flashing in cycles of four... So; what level of Hades has my processor gone to NOW?!? Could it be another board ? Maybe the power board ? Mad Dog -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Help w/ Pismo!
In a message dated 9/3/04 5:31:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay; played with my Pismo some moreNOW when I try to start it up, I get four, even tone slow beeps (NOT the tone of death) and the PRAM/sleep lamp starts flashing in cycles of four... So; what level of Hades has my processor gone to NOW?!? Could it be another board ? Maybe the power board ? Doubtful, since it's only doing this with one of the 400mhz processors I have; with the other one it is working fine. I guess it's time to Cowboy up get another processor; I mussed this one up. Craig W. Atlanta, GA Power corrupts. Absolute power's a blast. -- John Fund -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Help w/ Pismo!
Man, I will NEVER learn...! I finally got my OS 9.2.1 Pismo 400mhz working, after waiting for a new processor to affordably appear on Ebay, and buying it... but NOW I have a new problem. The auto-update program found some stuff it said I needed to install, including OS 9.2.2, and a firmware update. Anyway, after installing it the laptop restated, then displayed a message saying that I needed to shut down, then restart again, holding the power key + Apple key at the same time, until I heard along beep. Well, I did that. But now, the laptop will only flash the sleep/PRAM light (long, 3-sec flash, then a quick flash, then no light for 6 seconds. The display is off and I only hear a failt sound of the machine being on. WHAT in the (hello!) DID I DO?!? Craig W. Atlanta, GA Power corrupts. Absolute power's a blast. -- John Fund -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Help w/ Pismo!
Well, I replaced the 400mhz processor from my Pismo with another 400mhz one from a seperate machine...and it works fine. So, evidently the firmware upgrade I tried to do did something 2 my processor. Can anyone instruct me on how to either PROPERLY upgrade -- or restore -- my firmware? Can somone do it for me, for trades on Powerbook stuff (1xx to Lomard) or ca$h? Craig W. Atlanta, GA Power corrupts. Absolute power's a blast. -- John Fund -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
