Lombard running hot/Pismo also
I had concerns about heat with a Pismo. I solved that problem by raising the Pismo up and also gaining more traction. I found some large rubber bumpers (maybe an inch and a quarter square and half an inch high) - the same ones as used under objects placed on wooden tables - like the little ones used to keep paintings from scratching the wall. I put 11 of them under the Pismo - four in front, four in back and three in the center - roughly following the internal structural supports. The machine doesn't slide an inch (11 bumpers in a small area is a lot of friction), there is plenty of airspace underneath, and I've had them on for three years without replacement. My two sons in Mac-related work wince when they see it - but I think it works. Paul -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard running hot/Pismo also
My final solution was to pull the rubber pads off a monitor stand I had lying around. Mine are about 1/2 inch high and about an inch wide. I also wince when I look at it, but then I remember the cooling effects. Thanks for all the help, everyone. Caleb On Friday, Dec 16, 2005, at 07:43 America/Chicago, Paul K. Dezendorf wrote: I had concerns about heat with a Pismo. I solved that problem by raising the Pismo up and also gaining more traction. I found some large rubber bumpers (maybe an inch and a quarter square and half an inch high) - the same ones as used under objects placed on wooden tables - like the little ones used to keep paintings from scratching the wall. I put 11 of them under the Pismo - four in front, four in back and three in the center - roughly following the internal structural supports. The machine doesn't slide an inch (11 bumpers in a small area is a lot of friction), there is plenty of airspace underneath, and I've had them on for three years without replacement. My two sons in Mac-related work wince when they see it - but I think it works. Paul -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard running hot.
I use a similar product made by Targus, so I can second Fabian's suggestion. The Targus unit also folds so flat that I can easily get it into my 'book's carrying bag without any difficulty. I picked mine up at OfficeMax, and I know they're also sold at Best Buy (tho IIRC Best Buy's cost was $4-5 more than OfficeMax) Later.Howard On 12/13/05, Fabian Fang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 13, 2005, at 8:54 PM, Caleb Cupples wrote: Are there any good, cheap solutions to keeping the Lombard cool. I've got a Lombard 400 with OS 10.2.8, and it seems that it's always running hot. I usually have it going while I'm relaxing on the couch, for comfort reasons. Any suggestions? Buy.com sells the Kensington Portable Notebook Cooling Stand for $16 with free shipping. http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10388951adid=17662 These work well with my PowerBooks and Windows laptops. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard running hot.
That sounds like a good plan, but with my funding for the next little bit going towards purchasing a Newer Technologies 7200 mAh battery for the aforementioned Lombard, I'm looking for more of a homebrew solution. I'll see about getting one of the Targus units when I can, though. Thanks, Caleb On Wednesday, Dec 14, 2005, at 08:28 America/Chicago, Howard Katz wrote: I use a similar product made by Targus, so I can second Fabian's suggestion. The Targus unit also folds so flat that I can easily get it into my 'book's carrying bag without any difficulty. I picked mine up at OfficeMax, and I know they're also sold at Best Buy (tho IIRC Best Buy's cost was $4-5 more than OfficeMax) Later.Howard On 12/13/05, Fabian Fang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buy.com sells the Kensington Portable Notebook Cooling Stand for $16 with free shipping. http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10388951adid=17662 These work well with my PowerBooks and Windows laptops. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard running hot.
That sounds like a good plan, but I was looking for more of a homebrew solution to make do for the time being, because I've got a battery replacement that I need to do first. I may break down and get one of those Targus stands, though. Thanks, Caleb On Wednesday, Dec 14, 2005, at 08:28 America/Chicago, Howard Katz wrote: I use a similar product made by Targus, so I can second Fabian's suggestion. The Targus unit also folds so flat that I can easily get it into my 'book's carrying bag without any difficulty. I picked mine up at OfficeMax, and I know they're also sold at Best Buy (tho IIRC Best Buy's cost was $4-5 more than OfficeMax) Later.Howard On 12/13/05, Fabian Fang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 13, 2005, at 8:54 PM, Caleb Cupples wrote: Are there any good, cheap solutions to keeping the Lombard cool. I've got a Lombard 400 with OS 10.2.8, and it seems that it's always running hot. I usually have it going while I'm relaxing on the couch, for comfort reasons. Any suggestions? Buy.com sells the Kensington Portable Notebook Cooling Stand for $16 with free shipping. http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10388951adid=17662 These work well with my PowerBooks and Windows laptops. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard running hot
Are there any good, cheap solutions to keeping the Lombard cool. I've got a Lombard 400 with OS 10.2.8, and it seems that it's always running hot. I usually have it going while I'm relaxing on the couch, for comfort reasons. Any suggestions? Are you using the computer on a pillow or something soft? Powerbooks shed a fair amount of heat through the underside. If placing the 'book on a hard surface fixes the problem then all you need is a small bit of plywood to got on top of your pillow and you're home free. Andrew in Ann Arbor technology is the answer, what was the question? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard running hot
Are there any good, cheap solutions to keeping the Lombard cool. I've got a Lombard 400 with OS 10.2.8, and it seems that it's always running hot. I usually have it going while I'm relaxing on the couch, for comfort reasons. Any suggestions? Are you using the computer on a pillow or something soft? Powerbooks shed a fair amount of heat through the underside. If placing the 'book on a hard surface fixes the problem then all you need is a small bit of plywood to go on top of your pillow and you're home free. Andrew in Ann Arbor technology is the answer, what was the question? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard running hot
Most of the time, it's in my lap, or on a comforter, so I'll try the hard surface idea. Also, would placing a book or something of that nature under the back edge help cooling some when I'm at a table?? Caleb On Wednesday, Dec 14, 2005, at 17:32 America/Chicago, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote: Are there any good, cheap solutions to keeping the Lombard cool. I've got a Lombard 400 with OS 10.2.8, and it seems that it's always running hot. I usually have it going while I'm relaxing on the couch, for comfort reasons. Any suggestions? Are you using the computer on a pillow or something soft? Powerbooks shed a fair amount of heat through the underside. If placing the 'book on a hard surface fixes the problem then all you need is a small bit of plywood to go on top of your pillow and you're home free. Andrew in Ann Arbor technology is the answer, what was the question? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Lombard running hot.
Are there any good, cheap solutions to keeping the Lombard cool. I've got a Lombard 400 with OS 10.2.8, and it seems that it's always running hot. I usually have it going while I'm relaxing on the couch, for comfort reasons. Any suggestions? Caleb, Lombard 400, 192 MB RAM, OS X Jaguar -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard running hot.
On Dec 13, 2005, at 8:54 PM, Caleb Cupples wrote: Are there any good, cheap solutions to keeping the Lombard cool. I've got a Lombard 400 with OS 10.2.8, and it seems that it's always running hot. I usually have it going while I'm relaxing on the couch, for comfort reasons. Any suggestions? Buy.com sells the Kensington Portable Notebook Cooling Stand for $16 with free shipping. http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10388951adid=17662 These work well with my PowerBooks and Windows laptops. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
How to force shut down? (was: HD in Lombard running hot)
I'm now stuck with a OS X installer CD as the only device the Lombard will start up from, the HD has disappeared altogheter from the installer and disk utility options and is quite hot, which indicates some weird activity inside. The question now is: how do I force a shut down in order to pull out the HD? The computer won't start from any other bootable system I have on CD and won't start from external FireWire and SCSI either, it only accepts an OS X install CD and I can't find any option to shut down from it. I just summarise the background events for those who were following the thread and gave suggestions and anybody who could recognise some pathology: - Hitachi Travelstar 40GNX 40GB in a Lombard makes continuous seek-click noise when booted in the freshly installed OS X Panther partition. Normal behaviour when booted in the OS 9 partition. Disc usage is less than 10% - no fragmentation issues, specially in the OS X partition (just clean installed). Additional software was installed. I replicated the same setup that was previously running under Jaguar. - tried to wipe the OS X partition and installed Jaguar on it. Normal behaviour, no clicking noise, HD runs cool and fine. - tried to install Panther in the OS 9 partition (no additional software installations): normal HD behaviour, runs cool, no noise - cloned the original Panther setup back onto the wiped OS X partition: clicking noise is back - wiped the OS partition again (disk utility) in order to re-install freashly Panther hoping I would get through fine. Freeze, force restart: HD does not mount and is quite hot. Don't know how to shut downn. The reason why I tried out all of the above is that I wanted to find out (or rule out) that the problem would come from some weird combination of software and/or OS settings, which I'm sort of convinced it is the case. By the way, the HD is still covered by warranty, I just did not want to return the HD in the case the problem were somehow software/OS related. thanks for any help! cheers, gianfranco -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: How to force shut down? (was: HD in Lombard running hot)
On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 03:52:18AM +0200, gf sciacca wrote: : : I'm now stuck with a OS X installer CD as the only device the Lombard will : start up from, the HD has disappeared altogheter from the installer and : disk utility options and is quite hot, which indicates some weird : activity inside. The question now is: how do I force a shut down in order : to pull out the HD? The computer won't start from any other bootable : system I have on CD and won't start from external FireWire and SCSI : either, it only accepts an OS X install CD and I can't find any option to : shut down from it. : : I just summarise the background events for those who were following the : thread and gave suggestions and anybody who could recognise some : pathology: : - Hitachi Travelstar 40GNX 40GB in a Lombard makes continuous seek-click : noise when booted in the freshly installed OS X Panther partition. Normal : behaviour when booted in the OS 9 partition. Disc usage is less than 10% If your hard drive is continually making clicking sounds whiled booted into OS X, even though it doesn't do so in OS 9, it should be replaced ASAP, IMO. It's under warranty, so get yourself a new drive and a new lease on hard drive life. : - tried to wipe the OS X partition and installed Jaguar on it. Normal : behaviour, no clicking noise, HD runs cool and fine. : - tried to install Panther in the OS 9 partition (no additional software : installations): normal HD behaviour, runs cool, no noise : - cloned the original Panther setup back onto the wiped OS X partition: : clicking noise is back If you are not ready to replace the hard drive, I would reformat the drive, install OS 9, install Panther, and then copy only *your* stuff from your old Panther backup (avoid cloning). -- Eugene Lee -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: How to force shut down? (was: HAD in Lombard running hot)
The National Enquirer reports at 3:52 AM +0200 5/28/04, gf sciacca wrote: I'm now stuck with a OS X installer CD as the only device the Lombard will start up from, the HD has disappeared altogheter from the installer and disk utility options and is quite hot, which indicates some weird activity inside. The question now is: how do I force a shut down in order to pull out the HD? The computer won't start from any other bootable system I have on CD and won't start from external FireWire and SCSI either, it only accepts an OS X install CD and I can't find any option to shut down from it. As a last resort you can always take the battery(ies) out and unplug the unit. That will shut it down. :-) Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: HAD in Lombard running hot
The National Enquirer reports at 10:13 AM -0400 5/25/04, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 25/05/04 09:05, gf sciacca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, so I'm just back from vacation. Still I find it strange that the continuous seeking occurs only under OS X. The drive model Nr. is IC25N040ATCS05-0 and was purchased by Transintl on July 7th, 2003. On the drive label, besides the Warranty void if... warning it says /May 03 What does OEM stand for by the way? cheers, gianfranco Since it's such a new drive, you probably still have warrantee on it. Notebook drives tend to have longer warrantees on them than desktop drives, which most of the time only have a year's warrantee. Contact Hitachi right away and get an RMA for it. You took the words right out of my mouth, Michelle. I know my 40GB Hitachi (GNX) came with a 3 year warranty. However, if gianfrancoo's drive was purchased as an OEM -- the actual meaning has no real significance here -- that usually indicates that there is no warranty included unless specifically stated. If gianfrancoo doesn't know whether his drive was an OEM, if he could provide the Hitachi model# (such as: IC25N040ATCS05) and where he bought it. Perhaps someone on the list will know whether it was OEM or not. Bob I believe that OEM means 'Original Equipment Manufacturer. Yep. Means some original products from known companies that are sold to another manufacturer to be part of a finished good from that last manufacturer. In your case, Hitachi sells their drives to Apple, so the Hitachi is the OEM. What often happens is that some resellers will get their hands on a batch of OEM equipment that are similar to the retail version. However, since it's OEM, it is much cheaper, since when a manufacturer like Apple goes to Hitachi and ask for their price for like, say 100,000 drives, they get them way cheaper than what you could get at any store. So, OEM equipment is the same than retail, except it doesn't come into a nice packaging and is usually quite cheaper. But, in your case, it's the same drive. To the consumer, it usually means that the device is a bare-bones device. Normally it will come with no manuals (yeah, I know, what's a user's manual these days), no extras that would normally be included, like installation screws or brackets/sleds etc, and often no warranty which means that you will need to deal with the vendor rather than the manufacturer concerning any problems. All, as Laurent states above, for a cheaper price. From your Model# above, I'd say you have a Travelstar 40GNX 40GB drive. If that's the case, then Transintl says it has a 3-year warranty: http://www.transintl.com/store/category.cfm?Category=351RequestTimeO ut=500 I was just reading recently where several people have had problems with that drive right about the 1-year mark. Sounds like you are just about at that time frame as well. I'm not trying to diagnose your problem. We're just discussing whether you have a warranty on the drive or not. P.S. I just ran down a spec sheet for your drive in case you are interested: http://www.memorysuppliers.com/ibmtrav40at5.html Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: HD in Lombard running hot
From your Model# above, I'd say you have a Travelstar 40GNX 40GB drive. If that's the case, then Transintl says it has a 3-year warranty: http://www.transintl.com/store/category.cfm?Category=351RequestTimeO ut=500 I was just reading recently where several people have had problems with that drive right about the 1-year mark. Sounds like you are just about at that time frame as well. I'm not trying to diagnose your problem. We're just discussing whether you have a warranty on the drive or not. P.S. I just ran down a spec sheet for your drive in case you are interested: http://www.memorysuppliers.com/ibmtrav40at5.html yes, that's the drive in question and is just at the year mark. So I have contacted Transintl who have given me a link to request a return number. I'm not sure how to proceed after I request the Nr. (first timer), but I guess it will all be self-explanatory once I start... The reason why I have not yet gone ahead with the request is that I had also contacted Hitachi separately, who have sent me a link to a diagnostic software (Drive Fitness Test) that unfortunately runs under DOS or Windows on x68 based computers. Apart from the fact that I found this rather amusing in year 2004 and considering the HD in question (but maybe I'm missing something here), the software is supposed to check for bad sectors and eventually repair them. Should I get some similar test performed before returning the disc (if yes, how??), or should I just return based on the sympoms I see. I mean, the disc works still, but the continuous seeking noise is abnormal, so is the heat generated... thanks all for the assistance! cheers, gianfranco -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: HAD in Lombard running hot
The National Enquirer reports at 1:46 AM +0200 5/27/04, gf sciacca wrote: snip The reason why I have not yet gone ahead with the request is that I had also contacted Hitachi separately, who have sent me a link to a diagnostic software (Drive Fitness Test) that unfortunately runs under DOS or Windows on x68 based computers. Apart from the fact that I found this rather amusing in year 2004 and considering the HD in question (but maybe I'm missing something here), the software is supposed to check for bad sectors and eventually repair them. Should I get some similar test performed before returning the disc (if yes, how??), or should I just return based on the sympoms I see. I mean, the disc works still, but the continuous seeking noise is abnormal, so is the heat generated... My experience with bad blocks is that is has nothing to do with the amount of H.D. head access. Normally bad blocks will show up in the inability to save, load or delete files. But it wouldn't hurt to check if you have the tools. I'm not an OS X expert, but the one utility that I know will check for bad blocks is TechTool Pro. Just allocate 4 or 5 hours for the read write test. There may be other utilities that you could use, I'm not familiar with any of them. I have intentionally tried to stay away from trying to diagnose your problem. One, because I honestly don't remember all of the details. Two, because I have a lot of irons in the fire here at the home front that are consuming my time. But 3 things real quick. You're using OS X? How full is you drive? Do you have between 15 - 20% of the drive free? If not, that could be causing the excessive drive seeking. Have you ever defragmented your drive? This is more of a long shot, but if you're wanting to try all the options before sending the drive back, you ought to defrag it. I know for a fact that if the drive is extremely fragmented, it will expend a lot of head movement saving and loading files. The one utility that I would recommend for this is Alsoft's Plus Optimizer (which used to come free with Disk Warrior, but is only available as a separate entity now IIRC). Norton has a defragger, but I will never recommend Norton to anyone -- that's one of my hangups. Third, can you situate any type of air-flow under your PB. A big fan, a small fan, sit the back end of the PB up 2-3 inches. Try to cool the machine down. Excessive heat will in itself cause more head recalibration. You've been thinking that the excessive head access is causing the heat (and it may be). OTOH the heat may be causing the excessive head access. Maybe someone on list can tell you if there is a temperature gauge for your Lombard in OS 9 (I'm almost positive that there's none for it in OS X). I use G3Strip in OS 8.6 and I wouldn't live without it. That's one reason I haven't move up to OS X on a permanent basis. Anyway, those are my thoughts. I hope someone else will chip in to help you. I just don't have a lot of time at the moment. Good luck, Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
HD in Lombard running hot
I left the Lombard sleeping yesterday (it was inactive most of the day) and today in the morning I found it very hot. The HD (hitachi travestal 40 GB, 5400 rpm, just over 1 year old), which I normally do not hear, was making some noise, a regular noise, as if it were stuck searching some data or so. It was supposed to be idle. It was difficult to hear the noise, but it was definitely there. I tried some browsing in the finder (10.3.3) and didn't notice any problems, but the computer and the HD itself were very hot, completely abnormal, considering it was inactive for nearly 24 hours. Then I booted into OS 9 and the HD seemed abnormally noisy during the booting. Finder browsing OK, then I decided to shut it down, let it cool first. Re-boot again in OS9, it seems all fine, but the HD is not as quiet as it used to be, but not as quiet if idle. Reboot in OS X, all is ok, but the regular noise while the HD is idle is back, one can also feel it with the hand if touching the palm rest near the keyboard. I have two partitions, one with OS 9.2.2, one just upgraded from Jaguar to Panther about a week ago. Although there seems to be a potential correlation there, I didn't seem to notice this issue during last week. I can't exclude the problem started after the upgrade, but I tend to think it just started last night. Does somebody with more experience than me recognise any potential problem existing/developing? thanks in advance, gianfrancoo -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: HD in Lombard running hot
on 19/05/04 06:10, gf sciacca at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I left the Lombard sleeping yesterday (it was inactive most of the day) and today in the morning I found it very hot. The HD (hitachi travestal 40 GB, 5400 rpm, just over 1 year old), which I normally do not hear, was making some noise, a regular noise, as if it were stuck searching some data or so. It was supposed to be idle. It was difficult to hear the noise, but it was definitely there. I tried some browsing in the finder (10.3.3) and didn't notice any problems, but the computer and the HD itself were very hot, completely abnormal, considering it was inactive for nearly 24 hours. Then I booted into OS 9 and the HD seemed abnormally noisy during the booting. Finder browsing OK, then I decided to shut it down, let it cool first. Re-boot again in OS9, it seems all fine, but the HD is not as quiet as it used to be, but not as quiet if idle. Reboot in OS X, all is ok, but the regular noise while the HD is idle is back, one can also feel it with the hand if touching the palm rest near the keyboard. I have two partitions, one with OS 9.2.2, one just upgraded from Jaguar to Panther about a week ago. Although there seems to be a potential correlation there, I didn't seem to notice this issue during last week. I can't exclude the problem started after the upgrade, but I tend to think it just started last night. Does somebody with more experience than me recognise any potential problem existing/developing? That sounds like the hard disk. Might be a good idea to make backup of your important data. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] fudge: 1. vt. To perform in an incomplete but marginally acceptable way, particularly with respect to the writing of a program. I didn't feel like going through that pain and suffering, so I fudged it -- I'll fix it later. 2. n. The resulting code. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: HD in Lombard running hot
That sounds like the hard disk. Might be a good idea to make backup of your important data. -Laurent. yep, done that. the issue is still there. Now I'll be away until monday, then I will pick up any other possible suggestions that will be posted and will report. thanks, gianfranco -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: HD in Lombard running hot
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 03:10 am, gf sciacca wrote: I left the Lombard sleeping yesterday (it was inactive most of the day) and today in the morning I found it very hot. The HD (hitachi travestal 40 GB, 5400 rpm, just over 1 year old), which I normally do not hear, was making some noise, a regular noise, as if it were stuck searching some data or so. It was supposed to be idle. Ouch. That's a failing drive. I have noticed that after I replaced the HD in my Wallstreet with a larger one (a 10GB pull from a friend's Pismo) the machine got noticeably warmer than it had been with the stock 2GB drive. However, this is different. I have an IBM 20GB 5400MB drive that is starting to fail, but luckily is hanging on pretty well. It occasionally reseeks and makes little clicking noises. This drive is going to get replaced really soon. I suggest you be maximally careful and back up regularly. You will probably be able to get some more time out of the drive but it will eventually go bad. Since it's such a new drive, you probably still have warrantee on it. Notebook drives tend to have longer warrantees on them than desktop drives, which most of the time only have a year's warrantee. Contact Hitachi right away and get an RMA for it. Good luck, Michelle -- Michelle Klein-Hass Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273 Brought to you by Linux, KDE and KMail...try it, you'll like it! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: HAD in Lombard running hot
The National Enquirer reports at 8:02 PM -0700 5/19/04, Michelle Klein-Hass wrote: snip Since it's such a new drive, you probably still have warrantee on it. Notebook drives tend to have longer warrantees on them than desktop drives, which most of the time only have a year's warrantee. Contact Hitachi right away and get an RMA for it. You took the words right out of my mouth, Michelle. I know my 40GB Hitachi (GNX) came with a 3 year warranty. However, if gianfrancoo's drive was purchased as an OEM -- the actual meaning has no real significance here -- that usually indicates that there is no warranty included unless specifically stated. If gianfrancoo doesn't know whether his drive was an OEM, if he could provide the Hitachi model# (such as: IC25N040ATCS05) and where he bought it. Perhaps someone on the list will know whether it was OEM or not. Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
