Re: Mac OS X 10.3.8 update.
My 12 Powerbook would freeze like that if it was asleep and you accidentally pulled the power cord out of the wall while it was still attached to the machine...is this just how they work and you shouldn't do that, an issue with certain Powerbooks, or something weird with my old machine? I think it's not only you. In my case I also narrowed it down to power adapter -- if I disconnected it while my PB was sleeping, it was much more likely that it wouldn't wake up. With time I learnt the proper procedure: unplug everything and *then* close the lid. Didn't install 10.3.8 yet, but in any case, I am also afraid of testing this. :) Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X 10.3.8 update.
Marcin, On 13-Feb-05, at 12:57 AM, Marcin Wichary wrote: I think it's not only you. In my case I also narrowed it down to power adapter -- if I disconnected it while my PB was sleeping, it was much more likely that it wouldn't wake up. With time I learnt the proper procedure: unplug everything and *then* close the lid. Didn't install 10.3.8 yet, but in any case, I am also afraid of testing this. :) My 15 PB will not wake up if it goes to sleep anytime that the power adapter is not connected. So even if the battery is fully charged and I unplug it to work elsewhere in the house, if it is left unattended for a few minutes and goes to sleep, I will not be able to wake it up. The only way to use it again after that is to plug it in and turn it back on. Not a problem at home (although a major hassle !) but when on an airplane or bus or even at a cafe, I cannot let it fall asleep or that's it unless I have access to a power outlet. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X 10.3.8 update.
on 13/02/05 12:37, Amber R. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcin, On 13-Feb-05, at 12:57 AM, Marcin Wichary wrote: I think it's not only you. In my case I also narrowed it down to power adapter -- if I disconnected it while my PB was sleeping, it was much more likely that it wouldn't wake up. With time I learnt the proper procedure: unplug everything and *then* close the lid. Didn't install 10.3.8 yet, but in any case, I am also afraid of testing this. :) My 15 PB will not wake up if it goes to sleep anytime that the power adapter is not connected. So even if the battery is fully charged and I unplug it to work elsewhere in the house, if it is left unattended for a few minutes and goes to sleep, I will not be able to wake it up. The only way to use it again after that is to plug it in and turn it back on. Not a problem at home (although a major hassle !) but when on an airplane or bus or even at a cafe, I cannot let it fall asleep or that's it unless I have access to a power outlet. I don't know if your 15 PB is a Titanium or the Aluminum, but my 17 wakes just fine if it goes to sleep while on the battery. It will wake up fine whether it's still running on the battery or if plugged to the AC adapter. Running 10.3.8... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] fandango on core n.: [Unix/C hackers, from the Iberian dance] In C, a wild pointer that runs out of bounds, causing a core dump, or corrupts the malloc(3) arena in such a way as to cause mysterious failures later on, is sometimes said to have `done a fandango on core'. On low-end personal machines without an MMU (or Windows boxes, which have an MMU but use it incompetently), this can corrupt the OS itself, causing massive lossage. Other frenetic dances such as the cha-cha or the watusi, may be substituted. See aliasing bug, precedence lossage, smash the stack, memory leak, memory smash, overrun screw, core. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X 10.3.8 update.
on 13/02/05 12:37, Amber R. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcin, On 13-Feb-05, at 12:57 AM, Marcin Wichary wrote: I think it's not only you. In my case I also narrowed it down to power adapter -- if I disconnected it while my PB was sleeping, it was much more likely that it wouldn't wake up. With time I learnt the proper procedure: unplug everything and *then* close the lid. Didn't install 10.3.8 yet, but in any case, I am also afraid of testing this. :) My 15 PB will not wake up if it goes to sleep anytime that the power adapter is not connected. So even if the battery is fully charged and I unplug it to work elsewhere in the house, if it is left unattended for a few minutes and goes to sleep, I will not be able to wake it up. The only way to use it again after that is to plug it in and turn it back on. Not a problem at home (although a major hassle !) but when on an airplane or bus or even at a cafe, I cannot let it fall asleep or that's it unless I have access to a power outlet. I don't know if your 15 PB is a Titanium or the Aluminum, but my 17 wakes just fine if it goes to sleep while on the battery. It will wake up fine whether it's still running on the battery or if plugged to the AC adapter. Running 10.3.8... -Laurent. This might be related to the Battery monitor issue. Somewhere during the updates some people lost battery time or had their PowerBooks shut down early with the batterys showing 1/2 power or so. Try resetting the power manager unit for your machine. Try deleting the .plist file file for battery monitor (not sure of name). Try deleting the battery monitor off the menu and using a shareware/freeware monitor. I use Slim Battery Monitor. One of these solutions should cure your wake from sleep issue. John -- Pinky, you've left the lens cap on on your mind again - Brain -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X 10.3.8 update.
On 13-Feb-05, at 12:37 PM, Amber R. wrote: Not a problem at home (although a major hassle !) but when on an airplane or bus or even at a cafe, I cannot let it fall asleep or that's it unless I have access to a power outlet. Yeah, mine freaked out during the blackout a year and a half ago, because it was asleep and plugged in, then suddenly no power... It had no issues with it not waking up from sleep if I put it to sleep while on battery power, or put it to sleep plugged in and then pulled the plug out of the Powerbook, only if I pulled the plug out of the wall still attached to the machine. This was the 12 aluminum one, I don't recall a friend's 15 TiBook having any issues with sleeping and waking up while on battery power, though it may never have been unplugged from the wall when the plug was still in the computer. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X 10.3.8 update.
On Saturday, February 12, 2005, at 01:53 AM, Timothy Luoma wrote: On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:45 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 11, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote: Nothing about the update suggested it would help this, but my Bluetooth mouse, which has been acting up for a week or so, is now suddenly back to its old self. Was this the first restart in a week? Hrm. I'm not sure it might have been. If it starts acting up again I'll restart and see if that helps. Known issue? In various reviews of the Bluetooth keyboard and mouse they've mentioned that rebooting fixed problems like poor tracking and such. -- Wherever you go, there you are. - B. Banzai, Ph.D. Bruce Johnson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X 10.3.8 update.
On 10-Feb-05, at 5:14 AM, Marcin Wichary wrote: One of the changes in the 10.3.8 update is an issue in which a PowerBook G4 computer would, on rare occasion, wake from sleep with a black screen and not respond to any keyboard, mouse, or trackpad input. Hope this will resolve the problem that affected some of the people here (incl. me)... I used to have that sleeping sickness with my G3 tower, but I finally zapped...something...and it worked. That was while running Jaguar, though. My 12 Powerbook would freeze like that if it was asleep and you accidentally pulled the power cord out of the wall while it was still attached to the machine...is this just how they work and you shouldn't do that, an issue with certain Powerbooks, or something weird with my old machine? I don't know if my iBook will do that, too, I'm afraid to check! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X 10.3.8 update.
On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:45 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 11, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote: Nothing about the update suggested it would help this, but my Bluetooth mouse, which has been acting up for a week or so, is now suddenly back to its old self. Was this the first restart in a week? Hrm. I'm not sure it might have been. If it starts acting up again I'll restart and see if that helps. Known issue? TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X 10.3.8 update.
Nothing about the update suggested it would help this, but my Bluetooth mouse, which has been acting up for a week or so, is now suddenly back to its old self. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X 10.3.8 update.
On Feb 11, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote: Nothing about the update suggested it would help this, but my Bluetooth mouse, which has been acting up for a week or so, is now suddenly back to its old self. Was this the first restart in a week? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Phar acy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Mac OS X 10.3.8 update.
One of the changes in the 10.3.8 update is an issue in which a PowerBook G4 computer would, on rare occasion, wake from sleep with a black screen and not respond to any keyboard, mouse, or trackpad input. Hope this will resolve the problem that affected some of the people here (incl. me)... Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
