Re: OT: Re: OS X on x86...

[Raymond Wiker]

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 > Are the Athelon chips  the same as the Intel chips in this discussion?  
 > Aren't they less expensive  and don't they run cooler?

They're definitely less expensive, but not, in general, less
power-hungry. The Intel chips are better at reducing power
requirements when idle.

The Apple portables are anyway much better at being portable
than their x86-based counterparts---things like near-instant wake-up
from sleep, battery life(?), general robustness, both physical and
software-wise. I'm not sure how much of this would transfer across to
an x86-based design.

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Re: OT: Re: OS X on x86...

[PaulaTx1]

In a message dated 9/6/02 8:59:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I would mind if they used the standard PC architecture, because I truly
think Apple would die because of it. I don't think they make enough revenue
from their software. OK...so they sold 100,000 copies of Jag in their first
weekend, or was it 150? Either way...not enough to support them. They would
have to seriously downsize, and that would lesson quality. >>
   Wait a minute.  I remember reading an article that said  Bill Gates made 
more profit selling Office for Mac X   than Apple made profit selling the 
computers to run that software on.  Maybe the profit is higher on the 
software side. (Which would explain why Microsoft gets so bent out of shape 
about software piracy.)
Paula

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Re: OT: Re: OS X on x86...

[PaulaTx1]

Are the Athelon chips  the same as the Intel chips in this discussion?  
Aren't they less expensive  and don't they run cooler?
   Paula

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Re: OT: Re: OS X on x86...

[Walter Basil]

On 9/6/02 5:49 AM, "Laurent Daudelin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But Apple could replace the PowerPC and keeps the rest of the architecture
> of the machines they have today. Then, an x86 version would be handy, but
> that doesn't mean that OS X would run on your neighbor's Dell (or Gateway or
> whatever). 
> 
> -Laurent.
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That's exactly what I wouldn't mind seeing.

I mean, I am not a Mac addict because of the PowerPC chip.

I like the end result. The interface. I love X. Truth be told, when I tried
out my first Mac in 1999, it was the cheap low end iMac. I was going to try
it for a year to see what it was like while I was in Korea. I wasn't too
impressed. It crashed just as much as my Windows 9x machine did. I was going
to go back to a PC until I heard of the coming of OS X. So I stayed, and
bought the public beta, and even bought the high end iMac to run it on. I
was s happy with it, and that is why I stayed Mac.

So if Apple decided to use a Pentium 4 (or equivalent) in a closed
architecture system, I wouldn't mind.

I would mind if they used the standard PC architecture, because I truly
think Apple would die because of it. I don't think they make enough revenue
from their software. OK...so they sold 100,000 copies of Jag in their first
weekend, or was it 150? Either way...not enough to support them. They would
have to seriously downsize, and that would lesson quality.

My opinion of course...and everybody has one...just like...nevermind ;)

Walt


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Re: OT: Re: OS X on x86...

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 06/09/02 05:09, markemmanuel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I argue no.  I do not see Apple making the profit they want and wouldn't
> be very profitable.  As it stands, Apple needs to sell hardware.
> Remember during the clone wars?  That may happen again unless Apple
> builds MacOS X's marketshare.  Now, I pose the question, who would buy a
> license for something like iDVD or iMovie?  How much would Apple
> charge?  Now remember, the i-apps are part of MacOS X.
> 
> 
> On Friday, September 6, 2002, at 12:44 AM, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> 
>> Are you saying their software is *not* profitable? iDVD, iMovie, OS X
>> are very porfitable. If they didn't do hardware, they probably could
>> do very well in those categories. And the hardware does well too.

But Apple could replace the PowerPC and keeps the rest of the architecture
of the machines they have today. Then, an x86 version would be handy, but
that doesn't mean that OS X would run on your neighbor's Dell (or Gateway or
whatever). 

-Laurent.
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