Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Tekno Liber]

In order to use Carracho, I apparently have to sign up,
which I don't care to do right now.
No, just download the client software and go to www.tracker-tracker.com
and click on Carracho. Here you can see all the servers with logins and
a new world will open ...
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Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Thomas Ethen]

I had the same problem with my Pismo on one of the many times I had the
keyboard off and could not see anything wrong with the way it was put back
on the Laptop. After quite a few tries, it suddenly fit perfectly, so there
was some obstruction somewhere that was causing the problem, and I would bet
that it is the same here. Check everything under the keyboard to see if it
is sticking up further than normal.

Tom
> 
> The Wallstreet and the Lombard/Pismo have completely different
> keyboards, as well as different ways of locking them in place.
> 
> 
> Laurence
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Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Joe Ellis]

- Original Message -
From: "Tekno Liber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "G-Books" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: Pismo keyboard wobble


> Check www.tracker-tracker.com under the Carracho section. You'll
> find a server called ONE STOP SHOP. Use Carracho to log in with the
> l/p: backup/serv
>
> I may actually have gotten hold of a copy. Is it called powerbook_fw.pdf
> and is 4.7MB in size ?
>
>
> Laurence
That's it.
In order to use Carracho, I apparently have to sign up, which I don't care
to do right now.
But it looks like you have the file anyway. If you have questions, I'll try
to answer them. Good luck on your project.

Joe


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Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Tekno Liber]

Check www.tracker-tracker.com under the Carracho section. You'll
find a server called ONE STOP SHOP. Use Carracho to log in with the
l/p: backup/serv
I may actually have gotten hold of a copy. Is it called powerbook_fw.pdf
and is 4.7MB in size ?
Laurence


From: Joe Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Pismo keyboard wobble
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:35:35 -0400
On 9/25/03 14:51, "Tekno Liber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi, I'm at home now, but because you responded off-list I don't have that 
IP
address you sent, send it again to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Joe

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Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Joe Ellis]

On 9/25/03 14:51, "Tekno Liber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi, I'm at home now, but because you responded off-list I don't have that IP
address you sent, send it again to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Joe


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Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Tekno Liber]

From: Eric Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi. Just wanted to reiterate what Joe said. 
Thanks!
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I'd recommend taking Joe up on his offer to send you the repair
manual and then review that to discern your error.
I would except I cannot log into his idisk for some reason...

Tried both from Classic at work and OS X at home...

Any idea of where to find this manual ???

(yes, mail me off line, don't want to get told off now...)



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Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Tekno Liber]

From: Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I cannot remember of the Pismo has this but the Wallstreet has that little 
wire handle to pull the heatsink/cover up off the CPU and ram.
The Wallstreet and the Lombard/Pismo have completely different
keyboards, as well as different ways of locking them in place.
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Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Eric Morrison]

Laurence:

Hi. Just wanted to reiterate what Joe said. There is absolutely, 
positively, without question something wrong with how the machine has 
been reassembled. Pismo keyboards lie flat on all sides with the actual 
key tops themselves sticking up only slightly higher than the 
surrounding plastics. Any space you have is not supposed to be there. 
Joe has a good idea to check the keyboard lock although it could also 
be something else below the keyboard that is sticking up higher than 
normal. I'd recommend taking Joe up on his offer to send you the repair 
manual and then review that to discern your error. Wouldn't want you to 
damage your machine and the foam you are proposing seems to me like a 
quick route to that end!

... Eric

From: "Tekno Liber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:44 PM
DON'T USE FOAM! You need to recheck how the keyboard is seated. At the 
top;
between the function keys you will see a center latch screw, use a 
jewlers
screwdriver to unlock the KB, then there are 2 tabs to the left and 
right
that should slide back to allow you to lift the back edge of the KB up.
Towards the bottom of the KB you will see 3 small metal tabs make sure 
when
you seat the KB that they are slotted under the lip of the case. Then 
make
sure that the upper tabs are retracted as you lay the KB in place. If 
you
need a picture to follow along with, let me know and I will contact 
you off
list with a place you can download the repair manual for the Pismo.

Joe Ellis


Yes, there are tabs but the keyboard seems to lie higher than that,
thus moving up and down when one types the keys in the upper
right hand region.
I will try to reshape the keyboard so that it lies against the tabs,
or else I will put some foam to stop it from flexing.
Thansk!

Laurence

From: Laurent Daudelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I think there are some tabs from the case where the keyboard
will kind of snap in.


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Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Bruce Johnson]

Tekno Liber wrote:

From: Paul Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


It sounds like your keyboard is sitting on top of the
retractable tabs, not below them. Retract the tabs
and let the keyboard drop down.


No, it's slotted in fine, it seems as if it is slightly warped.
It seems to bow upwards a little towards the right creating
a gap on the right hand side.
I cannot remember of the Pismo has this but the Wallstreet has that 
little wire handle to pull the heatsink/cover up off the CPU and ram. 
That handle stuck in the up position on a Wallstreet I was working on 
just the other day producing a result very similar to what you describe.

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Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Tekno Liber]

From: Paul Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It sounds like your keyboard is sitting on top of the
retractable tabs, not below them. Retract the tabs
and let the keyboard drop down.
No, it's slotted in fine, it seems as if it is slightly warped.
It seems to bow upwards a little towards the right creating
a gap on the right hand side.
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Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Tekno Liber]

From: Steve Palmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

DON'T USE FOAM! You need to recheck how the keyboard is seated.


The locking screw is missing (from RAM upgrade ?)

The three tabs at the bottom are intact and the two sliding
tabs at the top are too, it's just that the keyboard bows
upwards on the right hand side, creating a gap of about
2mm which closes (and reopens) during typing.
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Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Steve Palmore]

- Original Message -
From: "Tekno Liber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "G-Books" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: Pismo keyboard wobble
 > >From: Laurent Daudelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >I think there are some tabs from the case where the keyboard
 >will kind of snap in.
 Yes, there are tabs but the keyboard seems to lie higher than that,
 thus moving up and down when one types the keys in the upper
 right hand region.
 I will try to reshape the keyboard so that it lies against the tabs,
 or else I will put some foam to stop it from flexing.
 Thansk!

 Laurence

DON'T USE FOAM! You need to recheck how the keyboard is seated. At the top;
between the function keys you will see a center latch screw, use a jewlers
screwdriver to unlock the KB, then there are 2 tabs to the left and right
that should slide back to allow you to lift the back edge of the KB up.
Towards the bottom of the KB you will see 3 small metal tabs make sure when
you seat the KB that they are slotted under the lip of the case. Then make
sure that the upper tabs are retracted as you lay the KB in place. If you
need a picture to follow along with, let me know and I will contact you off
list with a place you can download the repair manual for the Pismo.
Joe Ellis
I hope that I'm responding to this correctly as I've been a lurker 
for ages but never entered into the fray before. I've had a Pismo 
(500)(new) since April of 2000, and have since day 1 had an issue 
with the keyboard wobble on both the left and the right upper 
corners. It had the orig 12gig drive and later replaced with a 20gig 
IBM drive. I've added both a 256Meg and a 512Meg memory module as 
well as an Airport card, so I've been in and out of it numerous 
times. The keyboard is properly latched both top and bottom and still 
a gap between keyboard and drive and keyboard and pc card case. So 
everytime I hit the 2 key or the = key it felt weak and 'flaky'. I 
solved the issue 1 month after I got it by taking a PostIt pad (1.5 x 
2 in) and adjusting the thickness by removing sheets until the 
keyboard fit and felt like it should. I used 2 of them, one on the HD 
and another over the card case. Maybe 10 or 12 PostIt's in each 
location. If you take the bottom sheet of the stack it becomes self 
adhesive but is easily removed later. It's been that way for over 3 
years now and has yet to blow up on me and feels a heck of a lot 
better. Low tech but it works. Never a heating problem.

Steve Palmore
Senior Computer Technician (Retired)
Kyocera Wireless Corp.
San Diego
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Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Paul Nicholson]

On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 12:44 PM, Tekno Liber wrote:
I will try to reshape the keyboard so that it lies against the tabs,
or else I will put some foam to stop it from flexing.
It sounds like your keyboard is sitting on top of the retractable tabs, 
not below them. Retract the tabs and let the keyboard drop down.

Paul

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Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Joe Ellis]

- Original Message -
From: "Tekno Liber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "G-Books" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: Pismo keyboard wobble


> >From: Laurent Daudelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >I think there are some tabs from the case where the keyboard
> >will kind of snap in.
>
> Yes, there are tabs but the keyboard seems to lie higher than that,
> thus moving up and down when one types the keys in the upper
> right hand region.
>
> I will try to reshape the keyboard so that it lies against the tabs,
> or else I will put some foam to stop it from flexing.
>
> Thansk!
>
>
> Laurence
>
DON'T USE FOAM! You need to recheck how the keyboard is seated. At the top;
between the function keys you will see a center latch screw, use a jewlers
screwdriver to unlock the KB, then there are 2 tabs to the left and right
that should slide back to allow you to lift the back edge of the KB up.
Towards the bottom of the KB you will see 3 small metal tabs make sure when
you seat the KB that they are slotted under the lip of the case. Then make
sure that the upper tabs are retracted as you lay the KB in place. If you
need a picture to follow along with, let me know and I will contact you off
list with a place you can download the repair manual for the Pismo.

Joe Ellis



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Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Tekno Liber]

From: Laurent Daudelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I think there are some tabs from the case where the keyboard
will kind of snap in.
Yes, there are tabs but the keyboard seems to lie higher than that,
thus moving up and down when one types the keys in the upper
right hand region.
I will try to reshape the keyboard so that it lies against the tabs,
or else I will put some foam to stop it from flexing.
Thansk!

Laurence

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Re: Pismo keyboard wobble

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 24/09/03 08:58, Tekno Liber at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have just sold my Pismo 400 after selecting to keep the best bits
> for my Pismo 500 (as one does), however, I have noticed that I
> have a gap above the harddrive which does not support the
> keyboard when I type.
> 
> I have made sure that it is correctly located, and as both Pismos
> were quite new I have little experience of this from before I swapped
> RAM etc.
> 
> I was thinking of sticking a small piece of foam in between the HD
> and keyboard, but thought it best to ask first. I say small as I don't
> want to insulate the HD and therefore risk overheating.

I think there are some tabs from the case where the keyboard will kind of
snap in. Otherwise, there is something wrong as there shouldn't be any gap.
I would go over the thing again and make sure everything is tied in place.

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