Re: Wallstreet Hard Drive Recommendations

[Timothy Domst]

I got one of these, it's a great price.  I would only buy a Dell  
_computer_ to use as a prop in a horror movie about bad computers, but  
this hard drive is in my iBook and I love it.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx? 
sku=A0242099&c=us&l=en&cs=19&category_id=2999&page=external

On Jan 25, 2005, at 9:15 PM, Ken wrote:
I have a Wallstreet II/300 with 196MB RAM. Recently obtained a
retail install set for Jaguar and would like to give it a try.
So far the highest I have gone on any of my machines is OS 9.2.2.
The original disk is only 2gb so it barely meets minimum for
older OS and applications. I have "heard" that IBM/Hitachi
drives should be compatible, but they don't seem to the most
available. I have seem some in the 40-60gb range for $80-120 on
ebay, supposedly new and have thought of getting one. Before
laying out $$, does anyone here have recommendations?
Ken

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Re: Wallstreet Hard Drive Recommendations

[Ben Dyer]

I believe some 2.5" Toshiba drives have 32MB buffers, but I'm not that 
sure they come in ATA-5.

Drives running at 7200rpm cost considerably more, and are generally 
ATA-6.

Cheers,
Ben
On 27 Jan 2005, at 04:53, CR wrote:
Very interesting recommendations re: Wallstreet HD.
Thank you Ben.
I didn't know about the buffer and
wonder if bigger than 8MB are available.
Also, any reason not to go to 7200rpm?
Cliff

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Re: Wallstreet Hard Drive Recommendations

[Andrew, a Mac Freak]

> ...any reason not to go to 7200rpm?

Drives with slower RPM ratings generally use less power.  Also, a
7200rpm drive may cost you a bit more than a slower one.

Andrew

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Re: Wallstreet Hard Drive Recommendations

[Andrew]

Also the Wallstreet's controller is not likely to
benefit much from a 7200rpm drive.
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Re: Wallstreet Hard Drive Recommendations

[CR]

Very interesting recommendations re: Wallstreet HD.
Thank you Ben.
I didn't know about the buffer and
wonder if bigger than 8MB are available.
Also, any reason not to go to 7200rpm?
Cliff
At 10:18 PM -0500 1/25/05, Ben Dyer wrote:
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Subject: Re: Wallstreet Hard Drive Recommendations
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:31:18 +1100
 From what I've heard, ATA-6 (aka ATA/100) or later drives are not
compatible with the Wallstreet. You'll need an ATA-5 drive, which
limits things a bit -- I'd go for a relatively low-capacity drive (say
40GB) at 5400rpm, preferably with an 8MB buffer. A large buffer is
good, because it reduces the amount of mechanical work a drive has to
do, so you'll get higher access speeds and a longer battery life, and a
5400rpm drive is good (even though it reduces battery life) because it
is noticeably faster than the 4200rpm drives that come standard with
most laptops. Due to the age of the machine, you probably won't be
using it for video editing, gaming, or anything else that's too
space-hungry (unless you have a large music collection), so the 40GB
should be ample.
Cheers,
Ben

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Re: Wallstreet Hard Drive Recommendations

[Ben Dyer]

From what I've heard, ATA-6 (aka ATA/100) or later drives are not 
compatible with the Wallstreet. You'll need an ATA-5 drive, which 
limits things a bit -- I'd go for a relatively low-capacity drive (say 
40GB) at 5400rpm, preferably with an 8MB buffer. A large buffer is 
good, because it reduces the amount of mechanical work a drive has to 
do, so you'll get higher access speeds and a longer battery life, and a 
5400rpm drive is good (even though it reduces battery life) because it 
is noticeably faster than the 4200rpm drives that come standard with 
most laptops. Due to the age of the machine, you probably won't be 
using it for video editing, gaming, or anything else that's too 
space-hungry (unless you have a large music collection), so the 40GB 
should be ample.

Cheers,
Ben
On 26 Jan 2005, at 13:15, Ken wrote:
I have a Wallstreet II/300 with 196MB RAM. Recently obtained a
retail install set for Jaguar and would like to give it a try.
So far the highest I have gone on any of my machines is OS 9.2.2.
The original disk is only 2gb so it barely meets minimum for
older OS and applications. I have "heard" that IBM/Hitachi
drives should be compatible, but they don't seem to the most
available. I have seem some in the 40-60gb range for $80-120 on
ebay, supposedly new and have thought of getting one. Before
laying out $$, does anyone here have recommendations?
Ken

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Wallstreet Hard Drive Recommendations

[Ken]

I have a Wallstreet II/300 with 196MB RAM. Recently obtained a
retail install set for Jaguar and would like to give it a try.
So far the highest I have gone on any of my machines is OS 9.2.2.

The original disk is only 2gb so it barely meets minimum for
older OS and applications. I have "heard" that IBM/Hitachi
drives should be compatible, but they don't seem to the most
available. I have seem some in the 40-60gb range for $80-120 on
ebay, supposedly new and have thought of getting one. Before
laying out $$, does anyone here have recommendations?

Ken

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Re: Wallstreet Hard Drive

[Al Poulin]

Clyde Kahrl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have tried to put a 4.5 gig travelstar--(orig equip lombard) into
> my wall street.

I've been lurking around trying to learn.

Some of the gurus here will have to confirm.  But I seem to remember reading
here a few weeks ago that the ribbon cables for the drives on the Lombard
and the WallStreet are different.  You need to bring over the cable as well
as the drive to the other machine.

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Re: Wallstreet Hard Drive

[Bruce Alsobrook]

On Dec 28, 2003, at 7:59 PM, Clyde Kahrl wrote:

I have tried to put a 4.5 gig travelstar--(orig equip lombard) into my 
wall street.

When it is installed, I get nice chimes, and that's it.  I don't even 
get a question mark.  The screen doesn't even light up.   The machine 
won't even boot from the CD.

I have tried various shield things--including magnetic metal--and even 
setting the drive so that it is loaded at an angle so that it is 
farther from the magnet in the case.   But, again, although I can hear 
the hard drive doing its internal startup routine, while it is in the 
machine, the machine does nothing--it won't give me a question mark, 
it won't boot up from the CD--and it won't even allow the PRAM to zap 
with the cmd-opt-pr.

Because of all of this I despair of doing anything with this machine. 
It works really well with its original 1.5 Gig drive--but that isn't 
enough to do much.

Since this is not the sleep of death thing I was just trying to figure 
out what sort of drive I could put in it--if any.
--
I had a drive with the exact same symptoms, and I don't know if this 
will help or not, but it's worth considering.

I once updated the driver on a hard drive that was a driver that was 
not compatible with the Mac in question. In the end, I had to hook up  
the old drive, let it load the driver, pull the hard drive and then put 
in the newer drive, then I could update everything.

Don't get me wrong, this is risky to do and should be a last resort, 
but it can be a solution.

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Re: Wallstreet Hard Drive

[Clyde Kahrl]

I have tried to put a 4.5 gig travelstar--(orig equip lombard) into 
my wall street.

When it is installed, I get nice chimes, and that's it.  I don't even 
get a question mark.  The screen doesn't even light up.   The machine 
won't even boot from the CD.

I have tried various shield things--including magnetic metal--and 
even setting the drive so that it is loaded at an angle so that it is 
farther from the magnet in the case.   But, again, although I can 
hear the hard drive doing its internal startup routine, while it is 
in the machine, the machine does nothing--it won't give me a question 
mark, it won't boot up from the CD--and it won't even allow the PRAM 
to zap with the cmd-opt-pr.

Because of all of this I despair of doing anything with this machine. 
It works really well with its original 1.5 Gig drive--but that isn't 
enough to do much.

Since this is not the sleep of death thing I was just trying to 
figure out what sort of drive I could put in it--if any.
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Re: WallStreet hard drive

[John Haumann]

Yep.  The 40 GB one I bought most recently was made in Hungary.  The 
drive arrived with minimal packaging and, at first, I sorta wished it 
would have come with more documentation.  When I thought about it 
though, I probably wouldn't have been able to read it anyway.  My 
Hungarian is very rusty.

On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at 11:33 PM, KurtWAppling wrote:

> RE, from my understanding IBM make their own hardrives,, but in several
> factories in different country's
>

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Re: WallStreet hard drive

[KurtWAppling]

RE, from my understanding IBM make their own hardrives,, but in several
factories in different country's


on 9/18/02 8:49 AM, Mike Amato at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> on 9/17/02 7:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> As I've always said, the Fujitsu's have been the quietest and most reliable
>> drives we've tested.  I wouldn't call our system of testing entirely
>> scientific--it is based purely on returns of dead drives.  We've had 3 known
>> Fujitsu 30's die (out of over 1000 in the past year), and about 30 IBM (out
>> of around 500 in the past 1.5yrs)...
> 
> Does anyone know if IBM actually makes their own drives or has another
> supplier and just puts their brand on it?


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Re: WallStreet hard drive

[Mike Amato]

on 9/17/02 7:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As I've always said, the Fujitsu's have been the quietest and most reliable
> drives we've tested.  I wouldn't call our system of testing entirely
> scientific--it is based purely on returns of dead drives.  We've had 3 known
> Fujitsu 30's die (out of over 1000 in the past year), and about 30 IBM (out
> of around 500 in the past 1.5yrs)...

Does anyone know if IBM actually makes their own drives or has another
supplier and just puts their brand on it?
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Re: WallStreet hard drive

[Luca Rescigno]

Mine definitely does not have fluid bearings. It's very loud. Their 
fluid bearing ones are later, and those are good.

> Do they have the fluid bearings, or whatever they called them, that 
> were supposed to make them quieter?


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Re: WallStreet hard drive

[Anne Judge]

I wonder what generation these drives are?  Do they have the fluid 
bearings, or whatever they called them, that were supposed to make 
them quieter?  I have an IBM 20gig that seems extremely quiet to me - 
just a little burbling as it reads.  I got it this last February.

BTW, I don't think IBM will continue to make a lot of bad drives, as 
they've sold their drive division.

Anne


Luca Rescigno wrote:
> Mine too! Mine is a 12GB IBM and it's very loud (and only a 4200 RPM). 
> Much louder than my previous 2GB Toshiba. Also, it sometimes squeaks, 
> which I am told is a sign of impending failure.
> 
> Given the failure rate among IBM drives. . .
 > I would stay away from every drive made by them. They've
> made a lot of bad drives in the past, and they will probably continue 
> to do so
> 
>>My IBM 10G whines like a hungry child (well, not quite, but I liked 
>>the way that sounds) all the time. . .
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Re: WallStreet hard drive

[Nick]

on 9/17/02 9:57 AM, Gene Merritt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On 9/17/02 2:34 AM, "Laurent Daudelin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> on 17/09/02 01:26, Van Turner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anybody have a personal preference on hard drives for PowerBook? I'm
>>> looking at IBM Travelstar and a Fujitsu drive on eBay. Both are 20GB,
>>> 4200RPM ATA/66. Is that what works in these computers? Is there anything I
>>> should know?
>> 
>> These are pretty much what you need. I personally have an IBM 20 GB and it's
>> quiet and fast. No problem. Can't comment on the Fujitsu.
>> 
>> -Laurent.
> 
> 
> I have a 20G Fujitsu in my Wallstreet II and it's quieter than the
> 15G IBM in my Powerboy FW drive. Got the Fujitsu from PBPARTS.
> 
> Gene
> 

I recently installed a 40 Gig Toshiba, 5400 rpm, 16 Meg cache, s quiet I
have to stick my ear to the keyboard to make sure it's spinning!

Nick


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Re: WallStreet hard drive

[Luca Rescigno]

Mine too! Mine is a 12GB IBM and it's very loud (and only a 4200 RPM). 
Much louder than my previous 2GB Toshiba. Also, it sometimes squeaks, 
which I am told is a sign of impending failure.

Given the failure rate among IBM drives (apparently the model I'm using 
is really bad, and I heard about their Deskstar drives failing 
miserably), I would stay away from every drive made by them. They've 
made a lot of bad drives in the past, and they will probably continue 
to do so (even if most of their current drives are good, it's a sign 
that they're sloppy about designing and manufacturing hard drives).

Avoid IBM.

> and mine...
>
> My IBM 10G whines like a hungry child (well, not quite, but I liked 
> the way that sounds) all the time. It needed warrantee replacement 
> twice, and they all sound like that. Really annoying in a quiet room, 
> but definitely faster than the OEM 2 gig.
>
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Re: WallStreet hard drive

[Marty Lindower]

>
>>I have the IBM 20 and I HATE it.  It's loud, annoyingly so.  It is reliable
>>and seems to be speedy enough, but the hum and noise is driving me nuts.
>>
> >My two cents.
> >

and mine...

My IBM 10G whines like a hungry child (well, not quite, but I liked the way that 
sounds) all the time. It needed warrantee replacement twice, and they all sound like 
that. Really annoying in a quiet room, but definitely faster than the OEM 2 gig.

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Re: WallStreet hard drive

[DavidWedge]

As I've always said, the Fujitsu's have been the quietest and most reliable 
drives we've tested.  I wouldn't call our system of testing entirely 
scientific--it is based purely on returns of dead drives.  We've had 3 known 
Fujitsu 30's die (out of over 1000 in the past year), and about 30 IBM (out 
of around 500 in the past 1.5yrs)...


In a message dated 9/17/02 3:27:52 PM, you wrote:

>I have the IBM 20 and I HATE it.  It's loud, annoyingly so.  It is reliable
>and seems to be speedy enough, but the hum and noise is driving me nuts.
>
>My two cents. 
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I have the IBM 20 and I HATE it.  It's loud, annoyingly so.  It is reliable
and seems to be speedy enough, but the hum and noise is driving me nuts.

My two cents. 

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Re: WallStreet hard drive

[Tim Gilman]

Thomas Ethen at 9/17/02 (maybe):
>I have a Fujitsu 30 Gig and it is not as noisy as the IBM
>that came with my Pismo, but it is definitely not quiet.
>
>Tom

If you're going to get an IBM TravelStar, be sure to get a more recent
model that includes the quiet tech like fluid bearings.  I got myself a
40GN model maybe 8 months ago, and it's been practically dead silent
since then.

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Re: WallStreet hard drive

[Thomas Ethen]

I have a Fujitsu 30 Gig and it is not as noisy as the IBM that came with my
Pismo, but it is definitely not quiet.

Tom
> 
> 
> I have a 20G Fujitsu in my Wallstreet II and it's quieter than the
> 15G IBM in my Powerboy FW drive. Got the Fujitsu from PBPARTS.
> 
> Gene
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Re: WallStreet hard drive

[Gene Merritt]

On 9/17/02 2:34 AM, "Laurent Daudelin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on 17/09/02 01:26, Van Turner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Does anybody have a personal preference on hard drives for PowerBook? I'm
>> looking at IBM Travelstar and a Fujitsu drive on eBay. Both are 20GB,
>> 4200RPM ATA/66. Is that what works in these computers? Is there anything I
>> should know?
> 
> These are pretty much what you need. I personally have an IBM 20 GB and it's
> quiet and fast. No problem. Can't comment on the Fujitsu.
> 
> -Laurent.


I have a 20G Fujitsu in my Wallstreet II and it's quieter than the
15G IBM in my Powerboy FW drive. Got the Fujitsu from PBPARTS.

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Re: WallStreet hard drive

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 17/09/02 01:26, Van Turner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Does anybody have a personal preference on hard drives for PowerBook? I'm
> looking at IBM Travelstar and a Fujitsu drive on eBay. Both are 20GB,
> 4200RPM ATA/66. Is that what works in these computers? Is there anything I
> should know?

These are pretty much what you need. I personally have an IBM 20 GB and it's
quiet and fast. No problem. Can't comment on the Fujitsu.

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WallStreet hard drive

[Van Turner]

Does anybody have a personal preference on hard drives for PowerBook? I'm
looking at IBM Travelstar and a Fujitsu drive on eBay. Both are 20GB,
4200RPM ATA/66. Is that what works in these computers? Is there anything I
should know?


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Re: Wallstreet hard drive woe

[Jim Eddy]

If you have access to any other 2.5 drive, try putting it in the  
machine to see if any other drive will boot the machine. A friend had  
the same symptoms, but the hard drive was good--it was the motherboard  
that could see any hard drive, although it would boot off a CD. Find  
this out quickly so you can return the book if the mobo is faulty.

On Tuesday, August 27, 2002, at 03:41  PM, Timothy Virkkala wrote:

> I purchased a Wallstreet on eBay for my niece - only to discover that  
> the
> hard drive is not working.
>
> The screen shows a floppy icon with a question mark. When I stick an  
> OS 8.5
> CD in the CD drive, the OS starts up off the CD. Unfortunately, I see  
> no
> hard drive. When using the HD Setup utility, I see no hard drive there,
> either.
>
> So I gather (as does the seller) that the hard drive was damaged in  
> shipping
> (though the FedEx box was in great shape).
>
> Any other thoughts?
>
> Going forward, I have to correct this, and soon. How easy/difficult is  
> it to
> change a hard drive on a 266MHz Wallstreet?
>
> If at all possible I'd like to do this myself, rather than spend money  
> on a
> technician. I've poked inside and upgraded/troubleshot numerous desktop
> Macs, but never a Powerbook...
>

 
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Re: Torx for Pismo HD? (was: Re: Wallstreet hard drive woe)

[Bruce Johnson]

Jim wrote:
>>But, I digress. Get a Torx #8 screwdriver from Sears, put in a 
>>larger, faster HD, and your PB will be good as new.
> 
> 
> Listers,
> 
> Is Torx8 the size needed for removing the Pismo drive too?  Last time 
> I had the keyboard up, I noticed that the drive was fastened with 
> those damnable torx screws. 

Yes it is. Just replaced the HDD in someone's a month ago.


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Re: Torx for Pismo HD? (was: Re: Wallstreet hard drive woe)

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 28/08/02 15:58, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> But, I digress. Get a Torx #8 screwdriver from Sears, put in a
>> larger, faster HD, and your PB will be good as new.
> 
> Listers,
> 
> Is Torx8 the size needed for removing the Pismo drive too?  Last time
> I had the keyboard up, I noticed that the drive was fastened with
> those damnable torx screws.  Now, months later, I'm wanting to
> upgrade mine, but haven't a full torx set to try out, and I don't
> want to lug my Pismo to the hardware store to check for fit.

I'm pretty sure that it's a Torx 8 too.

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Torx for Pismo HD? (was: Re: Wallstreet hard drive woe)

[Jim]

>But, I digress. Get a Torx #8 screwdriver from Sears, put in a 
>larger, faster HD, and your PB will be good as new.

Listers,

Is Torx8 the size needed for removing the Pismo drive too?  Last time 
I had the keyboard up, I noticed that the drive was fastened with 
those damnable torx screws.  Now, months later, I'm wanting to 
upgrade mine, but haven't a full torx set to try out, and I don't 
want to lug my Pismo to the hardware store to check for fit.

Thanks in advance,

--Jim.

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Re: Wallstreet hard drive woe

[John Callahan]

Hi,
The drive I want to install is 9.5 mm high. Will that present any problems?
Thanks for your response.
John Callahan

Remy Davison wrote:
> 
> >This is a little off subject, but does anyone have any idea of where I
> >can find a list of hard disk drives compatible with my Powerbook G3
> >series "Wallstreet"? I "won" a Fujitsu MHR2020AT drive on E-Bay and for
> >the life of me I can't find out whether it will work or not. Grateful
> >for any help.
> >Thank you,
> >John Callahan
> Not off topic at all.
> 
> The short answer is: anything 2.5" wide and with an IDE connection will
> work. Full stop. The Wallstreet is 19mm high inside and most older HDs
> are a max of 17mm. Newer ones are either 12.5 or 9.5mm.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> RD
> 
> Remy Davison
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Re: Wallstreet hard drive woe

[Remy Davison]

>This is a little off subject, but does anyone have any idea of where I
>can find a list of hard disk drives compatible with my Powerbook G3
>series "Wallstreet"? I "won" a Fujitsu MHR2020AT drive on E-Bay and for
>the life of me I can't find out whether it will work or not. Grateful
>for any help.
>Thank you,
>John Callahan
Not off topic at all. 

The short answer is: anything 2.5" wide and with an IDE connection will 
work. Full stop. The Wallstreet is 19mm high inside and most older HDs 
are a max of 17mm. Newer ones are either 12.5 or 9.5mm.

Cheers,

RD

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Re: Wallstreet hard drive woe

[John Callahan]

This is a little off subject, but does anyone have any idea of where I
can find a list of hard disk drives compatible with my Powerbook G3
series "Wallstreet"? I "won" a Fujitsu MHR2020AT drive on E-Bay and for
the life of me I can't find out whether it will work or not. Grateful
for any help.
Thank you,
John Callahan

Marty Lindower wrote:
> 
> >I purchased a Wallstreet on eBay for my niece - only to discover that the
> >hard drive is not working.
> >
> >The screen shows a floppy icon with a question mark. When I stick an OS 8.5
> >CD in the CD drive, the OS starts up off the CD. Unfortunately, I see no
> >hard drive. When using the HD Setup utility, I see no hard drive there,
> >either.
> 
> If you've worked inside desktop systems, a Wallstreet shouldn't be a problem. Just a 
>note here - a few weeks ago, I posted a plea for help with my WS hard drive, but a 
>bit different than your problem. On mine, the drive would spin up, but then just 
>stall, giving me the dreaded 'where's your HD?' icon. Replacing the drive DID NOT fix 
>this problem! My local Apple store "genius" was no help. It took a real Mac genius, 
>Peter Carbonell, at my local Mac retailer (Computer Resources, Wethersfield, CT) to 
>solve the problem, which was that my lower RAM module wasn't seated perfectly! 
>Who'dve thunk it?
> 
> But, I digress. Get a Torx #8 screwdriver from Sears, put in a larger, faster HD, 
>and your PB will be good as new.
> 
> ps- Sorry for the shameless plug for Peter, but he saved me major $$ if I had to 
>send my PB to Apple for repair; he deserves it!
> 
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Re: Wallstreet hard drive woe

[Marty Lindower]

>I purchased a Wallstreet on eBay for my niece - only to discover that the
>hard drive is not working.
>
>The screen shows a floppy icon with a question mark. When I stick an OS 8.5
>CD in the CD drive, the OS starts up off the CD. Unfortunately, I see no
>hard drive. When using the HD Setup utility, I see no hard drive there,
>either.

If you've worked inside desktop systems, a Wallstreet shouldn't be a problem. Just a 
note here - a few weeks ago, I posted a plea for help with my WS hard drive, but a bit 
different than your problem. On mine, the drive would spin up, but then just stall, 
giving me the dreaded 'where's your HD?' icon. Replacing the drive DID NOT fix this 
problem! My local Apple store "genius" was no help. It took a real Mac genius, Peter 
Carbonell, at my local Mac retailer (Computer Resources, Wethersfield, CT) to solve 
the problem, which was that my lower RAM module wasn't seated perfectly! Who'dve thunk 
it?

But, I digress. Get a Torx #8 screwdriver from Sears, put in a larger, faster HD, and 
your PB will be good as new.

ps- Sorry for the shameless plug for Peter, but he saved me major $$ if I had to send 
my PB to Apple for repair; he deserves it!


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Re: Wallstreet hard drive woe

[Mark]

Timothy Virkkala on 8/27/02 2:41 PM wrote:

> 
> If at all possible I'd like to do this myself, rather than spend money on a
> technician. I've poked inside and upgraded/troubleshot numerous desktop
> Macs, but never a Powerbook...
> 

If you're comfortable poking around inside a desktop machine, doing the hard
drive upgrade should be fairly easy for you. The directions in the link
provided by Heok Hee, on xlr8yourmac.com are very thorough so it should go
well. 

First though, I would open it up and make sure the drive is seated properly
since it uses the angle adapter shown. It could be a loose or poor
connection causing it not to power up. I would remove and reinsert it a
couple times just to make sure the connection is making good contact. If
no-go, then pop in a new drive.

Just for grins, you might also reset the Power Manager:


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Re: Wallstreet hard drive woe

[Heok Hee Ng]

Timothy,

The tutorial for changing a Wallstreet hard drive is given
here:  http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/PB_G3/wallstreet_hard_drive/.
It's pretty simple, and I changed the hard drive on my
Wallstreet without the benefit of the tutorial.

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Wallstreet hard drive woe

[Timothy Virkkala]

I purchased a Wallstreet on eBay for my niece - only to discover that the
hard drive is not working.

The screen shows a floppy icon with a question mark. When I stick an OS 8.5
CD in the CD drive, the OS starts up off the CD. Unfortunately, I see no
hard drive. When using the HD Setup utility, I see no hard drive there,
either.

So I gather (as does the seller) that the hard drive was damaged in shipping
(though the FedEx box was in great shape).

Any other thoughts?

Going forward, I have to correct this, and soon. How easy/difficult is it to
change a hard drive on a 266MHz Wallstreet?

If at all possible I'd like to do this myself, rather than spend money on a
technician. I've poked inside and upgraded/troubleshot numerous desktop
Macs, but never a Powerbook...

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