connecting a G3 to my G4 laptop

2006-02-04 Thread J Schooster
Hi all :)

I have a very old G3 PowerMac (the beige one, desktop,
not the tower) and I'm trying to transfer information
from it to my new 17 G4 laptop ... or to an external
hard drive that I have for backups. The external drive
has a USB connector and works nicely with my laptop...

The G3 has a SCSI drive, and I *think* I need a USB to
SCSI converter to connect it to either my laptop or
the external drive, but I'm not sure.

Currently, I have an old scanner connected to the SCSI
on the G3 that has the thumbscrews on it.

Any suggestions? My G3 does not have a cd burner, and
I'm trying to find an easy way to move files from the
G3 to the lap top (or to a PC) so I can back
everything up.

Hope this all makes sense - this is all new to me :) Jenn

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Re: connecting a G3 to my G4 laptop

2006-02-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2/4/06 2:06 PM, J Schooster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I have a very old G3 PowerMac (the beige one, desktop,
 not the tower) and I'm trying to transfer information
 from it to my new 17 G4 laptop ... or to an external
 hard drive that I have for backups. The external drive
 has a USB connector and works nicely with my laptop...
 
You CAN get a USB-SCSI adapter but your G3 desktop has PCI slots. It would
be easier to locate a PCI USB adapter. Check out http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/
for a compatible card. You may or may not have to download a driver for it.
Then you'll be able to connect your drive without a problem.

david




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Re: connecting a G3 to my G4 laptop

2006-02-04 Thread Geoffrey Peters

Stardate 060204.11:06 -0800. A subspace message from J Schooster reads:


I have a very old G3 PowerMac (the beige one, desktop,
not the tower) and I'm trying to transfer information
from it to my new 17 G4 laptop ... or to an external
hard drive that I have for backups.


In your shoes, I would buy a USB-and-Firewire interface card for the 
G3, and pop it into a spare PCI slot. They're incredibly cheap these 
days. Once you do that, you can turn your brand new, expensive shiny 
PowerBook into a very dumb, very expensive external hard drive with 
it's Target Mode feature.


One powers on the PowerBook and holds down the T key until the screen 
lights up and bounces a big Firewire logo around ... you can then 
plug it into the G3's new FireWire port, and the HD inside the 
PowerBook will mount  appear on your G3's desktop, just like a 
normal HD would.


Alternatively, you can turn on File Sharing on your G3, then share 
the G3's whole hard drive. Assuming the ol' dear is still running 
OS9, click the HD's icon, go to File - Get Info - Sharing and set 
the privileges stuff so that it can be 'read  write' for everyone, 
click the 'make all folders inside like this one' box, close and save 
the sharing info window. Next, get a normal ethernet cable and join 
your two machines together. On your PowerBook, open a Finder window 
and click the Networks icon on the left. Your G3 *should* appear in 
the list - open it, and you should see all the G3's files.


If the G3's still running OSX, it's a little more fiddly, so get back to us :)


Geoffrey
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Re: connecting a G3 to my G4 laptop

2006-02-04 Thread Geno



On 2/4/06 11:06 AM, J Schooster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a very old G3 PowerMac (the beige one, desktop,
 not the tower) and I'm trying to transfer information
 from it to my new 17 G4 laptop ...

They both have ethernet connectors so you can just connect the G3 to the G4
with an ethernet cable and they should see each other when you establish a
network. You may need a crossover cable (wired different than a normal
ethernet cable) for this to work. I'm fairly sure the G3 needs a crossover
cable and I'm also fairly certain that the G4 does not. What I don't know is
if you need one to connect the two. I'd try it with a regular cable first.

However, I find that cables are over priced, unless you have a friend that
will make one for you.

The same task can be accomplished if you purchase a 4 port switch or hub.
You connect the g3 to the hub with an ethernet wire and do the same with the
G4 and you are connected. If you have a external hard drive connected to the
G4, set it up to share and you will be able to see it from your G3 when you
network. 

Hubs are cheaper (around $10 on sale) but slow down with each added
connection, switches cost a little more (though I got my last one for $11)
and have full speed at each port. Speed depends on your switch.

I know that the G3 is only 10Base-T, the slowest ethernet connection. So a
Hub should do. 

Best regards. 

Geno 



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Re: connecting a G3 to my G4 laptop

2006-02-04 Thread Geoffrey Peters

Stardate 060204.11:43 -0800. A subspace message from Geno reads:


On 2/4/06 11:06 AM, J Schooster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I have a very old G3 PowerMac [and a] new 17 G4 laptop ...


They both have ethernet connectors so you can just connect the G3 to the G4
with an ethernet cable and they should see each other when you establish a
network. You may need a crossover cable ...


No, the ethernet port in the PowerBook is auto-sense, meaning it 
automatically determines if it needs to adjust itself for cross-over 
mode.


But as we've just found out, it works via their home LAN's routerbox, 
so all's hunky-dunky :)



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Re: connecting a G3 to my G4 laptop

2006-02-04 Thread Andrew in Ann Arbor

On Feb 4, 2006, at 14:51, G-Books wrote:

I have a very old G3 PowerMac (the beige one, desktop,
not the tower) and I'm trying to transfer information
from it to my new 17 G4 laptop ... or to an external
hard drive that I have for backups. The external drive
has a USB connector and works nicely with my laptop...

The G3 has a SCSI drive, and I *think* I need a USB to
SCSI converter to connect it to either my laptop or
the external drive, but I'm not sure.


I've been pursuing the USB to SCSI adaptor question so I can connect my 
Pismo running Tiger to an assortment of older Powerbooks (SCSI disk 
mode).

So far I have not found an adaptor that will work in OSX.

This has motivated me to install OS 9.2.1 on the Pismo.
Now I need to download the Belkin drivers, boot into Classic and give 
it a try.


For your problem I agree with the USB and/or Firewire PCI card 
suggestion.

A lot simpler than messing with the SCSI disk and you get new ports.


Andrew in Ann Arbor
technology is the answer, what was the question?


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