Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
Try this to see if it helps: Take out your battery and push on the wall closest to the outside edge of your TiBook. That is where one antennae is and is known to come dislodged sometimes. Push on it real good and reconnect your battery and start it up. That should help. I get a good 50 to 60 feet with 3 to 4 bars at the coffee shop I hang out at and get 2 bars over a 100 feet away from the WAP down at campus. John Gaskell, Science Instructor Millennium Quest High School, DPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
At 9:44 PM -0500 7/23/03, Jeremy Derr wrote: On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 09:38 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: Actually, you didn't have to return the WAP. You would have gotten better reception with a G card and a B WAP. My two cents. actually... 802.11G is much shorter range than 802.11B. typical use, with most consumer grade routers, pegs the range of G equipment at around 50 feet. for G equipment to work past that range, it scales back to the B protocol. 802.11g uses a much wider channel bandwidth, so wide it takes up three 802.11b channels. If G uses the same power to cover three bands as B uses for one that could explain your postulate that G range is shorter than B. Paul -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
on 7/22/03 4:57 PM, Wiebe Wilbers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is why I also gave the example of the 1400(Yes, I realise there are subtle differences between a 1997 powerbook, and a 2001 machine :-) I know the IceBooks have a better track record on wireless reception, but I also have read (here, and elsewhere) that the TiBooks are (at times) able to hold their own at well. If the wireless reception is barely able to surf the net at 35ft in a line-of-sight, I think there would HAVE to be something wrong with it... Wiebe. Wrong. Any pc card solution get's much better reception than a ti, which suffer wireless very poorly indeed -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
At 7:01 PM -0500 7/22/03, Ryan Coleman wrote: Not so because there are many things we cannot see. Just because you have no Cell phones, cordless phones, TVs, Radios, etc near the two units doesn't mean there isn't EMF from something in the way. EMF just destroys RF. I know you meant EMI. I'm curious what other people are seeing with MacStumbler. I'm now working at my dining room table 35 feet away from the router showing 25 or so for signal strength and noise from 1 to 5, usually at 3. It is reliable at the table now. but it still won't work at the bedroom desk or the office desk. It shows four bars on the menu bar. As soon as the signal drops to 3 bars, it becomes unreliable. By the way, I popped the top on the D-Link 614+. It connects to two antennas, a U shaped plate on the side of the unit, and a short external whip. I question the onmi-directionality of coverage. With the whip pointing up, I guess there are both vertically and horizontally polarized components to the signal. The U shaped plate antenna looks like it radiates a horizontally polarized pattern, which I guess is what the horizontal slots on the tiBook pick up, you could say best, but least worst is a more appropriate description. My guess is that the base station doesn't put out an even field, the physical environment has a complex effect, and that because the tiBook is so lousy, those who report passable results are just plain sitting in the right place. The recurring theme of this discussion is that sometimes you get lucky with a tiBook, but almost always, other computers get way more range in the same environment. Paul -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
It seems that you have several options to improve your wireless situation. You can get a new laptop, you can buy a third party wifi card with an external antenna, or you can get a wifi bridge which should greatly extend your range. 700mhz i-Book running Jaguar Macs for life! http://homepage.mac.com/nikon80x/Menu2.html -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
Yes, I made that correct on my very next email. I got 'ok' numbers from MacStumbler. I would recommend KisMac if you are not needing to be connected to the WAP all the time and you have an Airport card. - Original Message - From: Paul Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: Re: disappointing tiBook wireless At 7:01 PM -0500 7/22/03, Ryan Coleman wrote: Not so because there are many things we cannot see. Just because you have no Cell phones, cordless phones, TVs, Radios, etc near the two units doesn't mean there isn't EMF from something in the way. EMF just destroys RF. I know you meant EMI. I'm curious what other people are seeing with MacStumbler. I'm now working at my dining room table 35 feet away from the router showing 25 or so for signal strength and noise from 1 to 5, usually at 3. It is reliable at the table now. but it still won't work at the bedroom desk or the office desk. It shows four bars on the menu bar. As soon as the signal drops to 3 bars, it becomes unreliable. By the way, I popped the top on the D-Link 614+. It connects to two antennas, a U shaped plate on the side of the unit, and a short external whip. I question the onmi-directionality of coverage. With the whip pointing up, I guess there are both vertically and horizontally polarized components to the signal. The U shaped plate antenna looks like it radiates a horizontally polarized pattern, which I guess is what the horizontal slots on the tiBook pick up, you could say best, but least worst is a more appropriate description. My guess is that the base station doesn't put out an even field, the physical environment has a complex effect, and that because the tiBook is so lousy, those who report passable results are just plain sitting in the right place. The recurring theme of this discussion is that sometimes you get lucky with a tiBook, but almost always, other computers get way more range in the same environment. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
On 7/22/03 1:49 PM, Paul Nicholson posted: Yesterday I picked up a D-Link wireless 802.11b router for 40 dollars after rebates. I've never used wireless with my two year old tiBook. It works well if the tiBook is within a few feet of the router. If I sit at my dining room table, 35 feet away and in clear visual line of sight of the router, the connection barely works. snip The tiBook is also unusable 20 feet and one wall away in an adjacent room to the router. The titanium case of the 15 PowerBook G4 just sucks up the radio frequencies. My Belkin 802.11b router is no more than 10' from my desk, yet my PowerBook G4 rarely registered a signal strength greater than 60. That was a clear line of sight -- no walls, doors, nothing but air between me and the router. When I sent my TiBook in for service, I put the AirPort card in my wife's 14 iBook. With the signal going through a wall, she's getting a 60+ signal strength at 8-10' from the router. Attending Macworld Expos with my wife's original clamshell iBook and later with my TiBook, there was a world of difference connecting to AirPort in the press room as well. When finances permit, I'll look at using an 802.11g wireless card in my TiBook instead of AirPort, since that eliminates use of the internal antenna, which is blocked by the titanium case. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net As for Unix being 'inflexible,' 'expensive,' and 'complex,' we feel those are terms much better suited to the closed and proprietary world of Windows. Sun -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 06:58 PM, Dan Knight wrote: When finances permit, I'll look at using an 802.11g wireless card in my TiBook instead of AirPort, since that eliminates use of the internal antenna, which is blocked by the titanium case. Does this mean that a non-Apple wireless card works better with these 'books or just that the new xtreme cards work by bypassing the internal antenna? Donald -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 06:02PM, Donald Keenan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 06:58 PM, Dan Knight wrote: When finances permit, I'll look at using an 802.11g wireless card in my TiBook instead of AirPort, since that eliminates use of the internal antenna, which is blocked by the titanium case. Does this mean that a non-Apple wireless card works better with these 'books or just that the new xtreme cards work by bypassing the internal antenna? yes and no. to both questions. any card in the Cardbus slot /might/ get better reception than a built in card in the tiBook. it has nothing to do with the card itself, really... it has to do with the antenna being outside the case. Cardbus wireless cards don't have as good antennas as, say, an iBook though. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 07:09PM, Jeremy Derr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 06:02PM, Donald Keenan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 06:58 PM, Dan Knight wrote: When finances permit, I'll look at using an 802.11g wireless card in my TiBook instead of AirPort, since that eliminates use of the internal antenna, which is blocked by the titanium case. Does this mean that a non-Apple wireless card works better with these 'books or just that the new xtreme cards work by bypassing the internal antenna? yes and no. to both questions. any card in the Cardbus slot /might/ get better reception than a built in card in the tiBook. it has nothing to do with the card itself, really... it has to do with the antenna being outside the case. Cardbus wireless cards don't have as good antennas as, say, an iBook though. oh and the Apple Branded Airport Extreme cards are not physically compatible with the TiBook. in the machines they work in, they still use an internal antenna. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
At 6:58 PM -0400 7/23/03, Dan Knight wrote: Attending Macworld Expos with my wife's original clamshell iBook and later with my TiBook, there was a world of difference connecting to AirPort in the press room as well. When finances permit, I'll look at using an 802.11g wireless card in my TiBook instead of AirPort, since that eliminates use of the internal antenna, which is blocked by the titanium case. My son's going away to college and he's adopting my old WallStreet. He thinks he'll use wireless access on campus so we were looking at the wireless stuff at BestBuy. They had the D-Link 614+ 802.11b Wireless/Cable DSL/Ethernet router for $40 after rebate. At that price I grabbed one, but as it really doesn't reach any farther to my tiBook than the Ethernet cables running along the walls I took it back. I might as well get the 802.11g stuff, since the tiBook 802.11b is junk. Paul -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
Actually, you didn't have to return the WAP. You would have gotten better reception with a G card and a B WAP. My two cents. -- Ryan - Original Message - From: Paul Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:03 PM Subject: Re: disappointing tiBook wireless At 6:58 PM -0400 7/23/03, Dan Knight wrote: Attending Macworld Expos with my wife's original clamshell iBook and later with my TiBook, there was a world of difference connecting to AirPort in the press room as well. When finances permit, I'll look at using an 802.11g wireless card in my TiBook instead of AirPort, since that eliminates use of the internal antenna, which is blocked by the titanium case. My son's going away to college and he's adopting my old WallStreet. He thinks he'll use wireless access on campus so we were looking at the wireless stuff at BestBuy. They had the D-Link 614+ 802.11b Wireless/Cable DSL/Ethernet router for $40 after rebate. At that price I grabbed one, but as it really doesn't reach any farther to my tiBook than the Ethernet cables running along the walls I took it back. I might as well get the 802.11g stuff, since the tiBook 802.11b is junk. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
disappointing tiBook wireless
Hi, Yesterday I picked up a D-Link wireless 802.11b router for 40 dollars after rebates. I've never used wireless with my two year old tiBook. It works well if the tiBook is within a few feet of the router. If I sit at my dining room table, 35 feet away and in clear visual line of sight of the router, the connection barely works. Simple web pages take a long time to open, and those with pictures often time out before the page is fully rendered. I heard the tiBook was bad, but this is unacceptable. The tiBook is also unusable 20 feet and one wall away in an adjacent room to the router. I took the bottom off the tiBook to check the card installation. The tiBook is equipped with the stock Apple Airport card. I noticed that the coax connector on both the antenna cable and the Airport card appear to have male center pins and that the center pin on the antenna cable is slightly offset from center. It appears that the center connection is made my the two male pins laying offset and mis-aligned next to each other. This is weird, a male pin should insert into a female receptacle. It may be that the pin on the card is really female and that it splits open when the male is inserted, but I'll have to get a microscope to see that. If the coax connector center pins are mating adjacently rather than concentrically, possibly the center conductor is shorting against the shield, which could still let some RF energy through. I believe the card coax connector is known as a MC Card type. Anyway, I know the antenna design is poor on the tiBook, but I can't even get 35 direct visual feet. Anybody have experience with this? Does the antenna to card connection sound correct? Is the problem simply the poor Airport antennas in the tiBook. Paul At 6:44 AM -0500 7/21/03, NIKON'S WORLD wrote: On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 01:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just subscribed to the SBC DSL...29.00/mo for a year. I ordered the wireless set up, and have a Sharp laptop with an 802.11b card built in, but prefer using my vintage 1998 Powerbook around the house for most use. Should I buy an Airport PCMCIA card for it, or one of the Orinocos, or one of the other cards that I hear about. Or does it make any difference as long as they comply to the IEE 802.11b standard. jf Buying an airport card is not an option for you. Any of the Orinoco cards should work for you. Wireless is the only way to go. Good luck. 700mhz i-Book running Jaguar Macs for life! http://homepage.mac.com/nikon80x/Menu2.html -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
The AirPort in the TiBook is nothing to be praised. Because of the wattage of the card, the poor consideration to the case material and the even worse placement of the antennae I completely ripped my AirPort card and antennae out of my book. I wouldn't recommend you do that. I bought the SMC-2632W V.2(atmel chipset) for $50 at MicroCenter and I got the third party of the third party Wireless Driver (NRAtmel driver) and it runs great I only fear upgrading to X.3 and the driver no longer working. Your antennae cable is not faulty, so you know. -- Ryan - Original Message - From: Paul Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: disappointing tiBook wireless Hi, Yesterday I picked up a D-Link wireless 802.11b router for 40 dollars after rebates. I've never used wireless with my two year old tiBook. It works well if the tiBook is within a few feet of the router. If I sit at my dining room table, 35 feet away and in clear visual line of sight of the router, the connection barely works. Simple web pages take a long time to open, and those with pictures often time out before the page is fully rendered. I heard the tiBook was bad, but this is unacceptable. The tiBook is also unusable 20 feet and one wall away in an adjacent room to the router. I took the bottom off the tiBook to check the card installation. The tiBook is equipped with the stock Apple Airport card. I noticed that the coax connector on both the antenna cable and the Airport card appear to have male center pins and that the center pin on the antenna cable is slightly offset from center. It appears that the center connection is made my the two male pins laying offset and mis-aligned next to each other. This is weird, a male pin should insert into a female receptacle. It may be that the pin on the card is really female and that it splits open when the male is inserted, but I'll have to get a microscope to see that. If the coax connector center pins are mating adjacently rather than concentrically, possibly the center conductor is shorting against the shield, which could still let some RF energy through. I believe the card coax connector is known as a MC Card type. Anyway, I know the antenna design is poor on the tiBook, but I can't even get 35 direct visual feet. Anybody have experience with this? Does the antenna to card connection sound correct? Is the problem simply the poor Airport antennas in the tiBook. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
Since you seem to have range problems when using the D-Link card or the Airport card I might suggest you consider the wireless base station as being the problem. Is it near any large metal objects, other electronics? Could it be conflicting with your cordless phone or a neighbor's wireless router? Is it up high so that the signal can broadcast far? Maybe the base station has poor range? I have an older PowerBook 3400 and am using an Orinoco card and a Netgear wireless router (just sitting on my desk) and have been out in the backyard with it some 30-40 feet from the house and it worked fine. -tom -- From: Paul Nicholson Subject: disappointing tiBook wireless Hi, Yesterday I picked up a D-Link wireless 802.11b router for 40 dollars after rebates. I've never used wireless with my two year old tiBook. It works well if the tiBook is within a few feet of the router. If I sit at my dining room table, 35 feet away and in clear visual line of sight of the router, the connection barely works. Simple web pages take a long time to open, and those with pictures often time out before the page is fully rendered. I heard the tiBook was bad, but this is unacceptable. The tiBook is also unusable 20 feet and one wall away in an adjacent room to the router. 8...snip... Paul -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
At 11:27 -0700 22/7/03, Paul Nicholson wrote: Yesterday I picked up a D-Link wireless 802.11b router for 40 dollars after rebates. I've never used wireless with my two year old tiBook. It works well if the tiBook is within a few feet of the router. If I sit at my dining room table, 35 feet away and in clear visual line of sight of the router, the connection barely works. Simple web pages take a long time to open, and those with pictures often time out before the page is fully rendered. I heard the tiBook was bad, but this is unacceptable. The tiBook is also unusable 20 feet and one wall away in an adjacent room to the router. This reflects my experience (TiBook 800). I have a Buffalo wireless base station. I had to experiment with the base station location - it is now hanging from the ceiling in my closet! In some rooms - OK. In other I have to be in just the right spot and angle the PB just so. Ryan Coleman's comments seem correct. My range out of doors is very poor compare with figures I've see from other model PBs. -- With best wishes, Roger Shufflebottom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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Ryan, Arrgh! This is what I didn't want to hear. It's really lame that Apple did such a lousy job on an otherwise almost perfect design. My other complaint is the soft paint on the frame and the shocks I get using it barefooted on a tile floor. Paul Paul At 1:36 PM -0500 7/22/03, Ryan Coleman wrote: The AirPort in the TiBook is nothing to be praised. Because of the wattage of the card, the poor consideration to the case material and the even worse placement of the antennae I completely ripped my AirPort card and antennae out of my book. I wouldn't recommend you do that. I bought the SMC-2632W V.2(atmel chipset) for $50 at MicroCenter and I got the third party of the third party Wireless Driver (NRAtmel driver) and it runs great I only fear upgrading to X.3 and the driver no longer working. Your antennae cable is not faulty, so you know. -- Ryan -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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At 7:51 PM +0100 7/22/03, Roger Shufflebottom wrote: This reflects my experience (TiBook 800). I have a Buffalo wireless base station. I had to experiment with the base station location - it is now hanging from the ceiling in my closet! In some rooms - OK. In other I have to be in just the right spot and angle the PB just so. Ryan Coleman's comments seem correct. My range out of doors is very poor compare with figures I've see from other model PBs. Well, I guess if the tiBook built in 802.11b is next to useless, I might as well take the 802.11b router back and get 802.11g equipment. Paul -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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At 15:19 -0400 22/7/03, Brian Scott Oplinger wrote: I just got off the phone with Apple tech support. I called to ask if there's anything I can do to improve my Ti's Airport range. After some questions about distance and interference like microwaves, cordless phones, and walls, the tech told me to shut down my powerbook and flip it over. BIG SNIP Well, I shut down and started pressing my battery case wall ASAP - no discernible difference here, I'm afraid. I'm about 7 feet from my router (through 2 walls and a floor) and my signal is poor. Maybe an extra aerial on the base station is next. -- With best wishes, Roger Shufflebottom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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Actually, very few G cards are supported by Airport 3 and even fewer are supported with the open source wireless driver. I would stick with it and play with the WAP to get a better signal. If you own your own house and you can find an area without a ceiling (e.g. only rafters) try mounting the WAP in there. That's what I did in my apartment building and I can pick up my SMC through 4 concrete walls and 80 feet away. -- Ryan - Original Message - From: Paul Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:11 PM Subject: Re: disappointing tiBook wireless At 7:51 PM +0100 7/22/03, Roger Shufflebottom wrote: This reflects my experience (TiBook 800). I have a Buffalo wireless base station. I had to experiment with the base station location - it is now hanging from the ceiling in my closet! In some rooms - OK. In other I have to be in just the right spot and angle the PB just so. Ryan Coleman's comments seem correct. My range out of doors is very poor compare with figures I've see from other model PBs. Well, I guess if the tiBook built in 802.11b is next to useless, I might as well take the 802.11b router back and get 802.11g equipment. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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At 2:36 PM -0400 7/22/03, Tom Roth wrote: Since you seem to have range problems when using the D-Link card or the Airport card I might suggest you consider the wireless base station as being the problem. It's possible, D-Link claims their base station tested as one of the best. Is it near any large metal objects, other electronics? Could it be conflicting with your cordless phone or a neighbor's wireless router? I've used MacStumbler to scan the spectrum, and I don't pick up any other nets, the noise readings are in the 2 to 5 range, while signal goes up to above 50 if I'm close. (In whatever units MacStumbler uses. The cordless phone is on the hook, so I assume it's quiet in that state. I'll have to play with base station location. I've tried different channels too. Is it up high so that the signal can broadcast far? Maybe the base station has poor range? I have an older PowerBook 3400 and am using an Orinoco card and a Netgear wireless router (just sitting on my desk) and have been out in the backyard with it some 30-40 feet from the house and it worked fine. I'm afraid the problem is the lousy and not cleanly fixable built in antennas on the tiBook. Paul -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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I tried the battery incantation, and I am now getting more bars today. Unless I get four bars, I notice slowness in Internet access (512K Earthlink DSL). Other things have changed however, since yesterday. The router is on the kitchen table instead of the window sill. It's still unusable in an adjacent room one wall away. No doubt there are a lot of factors going on, and my results are somewhat inconclusive. I'm still pretty disappointed, as what I want to do is be able to roam the house and get decent access throughout. Paul At 9:39 PM +0100 7/22/03, Roger Shufflebottom wrote: At 15:19 -0400 22/7/03, Brian Scott Oplinger wrote: I just got off the phone with Apple tech support. I called to ask if there's anything I can do to improve my Ti's Airport range. After some questions about distance and interference like microwaves, cordless phones, and walls, the tech told me to shut down my powerbook and flip it over. BIG SNIP Well, I shut down and started pressing my battery case wall ASAP - no discernible difference here, I'm afraid. I'm about 7 feet from my router (through 2 walls and a floor) and my signal is poor. Maybe an extra aerial on the base station is next. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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I have a D-Link 614+ that talks to my Wallstreet,via an Oronoco gold card,through four walls and 60 feet and it sits on the desk. Hope this helps. Bill Tom Roth wrote: Since you seem to have range problems when using the D-Link card or the Airport card I might suggest you consider the wireless base station as being the problem. Is it near any large metal objects, other electronics? Could it be conflicting with your cordless phone or a neighbor's wireless router? Is it up high so that the signal can broadcast far? Maybe the base station has poor range? I have an older PowerBook 3400 and am using an Orinoco card and a Netgear wireless router (just sitting on my desk) and have been out in the backyard with it some 30-40 feet from the house and it worked fine. -tom -- From: Paul Nicholson Subject: disappointing tiBook wireless Hi, Yesterday I picked up a D-Link wireless 802.11b router for 40 dollars after rebates. I've never used wireless with my two year old tiBook. It works well if the tiBook is within a few feet of the router. If I sit at my dining room table, 35 feet away and in clear visual line of sight of the router, the connection barely works. Simple web pages take a long time to open, and those with pictures often time out before the page is fully rendered. I heard the tiBook was bad, but this is unacceptable. The tiBook is also unusable 20 feet and one wall away in an adjacent room to the router. 8...snip... Paul -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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On 23/7/03 9:41 AM, Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, there is nothing wrong with his TiBook. You have an Icebook, that's a different computer completely from the inside out. Your computer is made of plastic, has a higher rated antennae and doesn't deflect the RF signals back into itself. That's exactly what the TiBook does. Which is why I also gave the example of the 1400(Yes, I realise there are subtle differences between a 1997 powerbook, and a 2001 machine :-) I know the IceBooks have a better track record on wireless reception, but I also have read (here, and elsewhere) that the TiBooks are (at times) able to hold their own at well. If the wireless reception is barely able to surf the net at 35ft in a line-of-sight, I think there would HAVE to be something wrong with it... Wiebe. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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Not so because there are many things we cannot see. Just because you have no Cell phones, cordless phones, TVs, Radios, etc near the two units doesn't mean there isn't EMF from something in the way. EMF just destroys RF. - Original Message - From: Wiebe Wilbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:57 PM Subject: Re: disappointing tiBook wireless Which is why I also gave the example of the 1400(Yes, I realise there are subtle differences between a 1997 powerbook, and a 2001 machine :-) I know the IceBooks have a better track record on wireless reception, but I also have read (here, and elsewhere) that the TiBooks are (at times) able to hold their own at well. If the wireless reception is barely able to surf the net at 35ft in a line-of-sight, I think there would HAVE to be something wrong -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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On 23/7/03 8:05 AM, Bill Buckhaults [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a D-Link 614+ that talks to my Wallstreet,via an Oronoco gold card,through four walls and 60 feet and it sits on the desk. Hope this helps. Bill I have a NetComm NP6800 which talks to my Airport-Icebook and a PB 1400c (Avaya Gold Wireless card) via numerous walls and 2 story's. I have 4/5 bars... Something definitely wrong with your 'book... Good luck with it, Wiebe -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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I meant to say EMI not EMF. - Original Message - From: Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:01 PM Subject: Re: disappointing tiBook wireless Not so because there are many things we cannot see. Just because you have no Cell phones, cordless phones, TVs, Radios, etc near the two units doesn't mean there isn't EMF from something in the way. EMF just destroys RF. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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Pretty bold assumption to make there Ryan - that I don't have those appliances too... On 23/7/03 10:01 AM, Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not so because there are many things we cannot see. Just because you have no Cell phones, cordless phones, TVs, Radios, etc near the two units doesn't mean there isn't EMF from something in the way. EMF just destroys RF. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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Actually, there is nothing wrong with his TiBook. You have an Icebook, that's a different computer completely from the inside out. Your computer is made of plastic, has a higher rated antennae and doesn't deflect the RF signals back into itself. That's exactly what the TiBook does. - Original Message - From: Wiebe Wilbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: Re: disappointing tiBook wireless On 23/7/03 8:05 AM, Bill Buckhaults [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a D-Link 614+ that talks to my Wallstreet,via an Oronoco gold card,through four walls and 60 feet and it sits on the desk. Hope this helps. Bill I have a NetComm NP6800 which talks to my Airport-Icebook and a PB 1400c (Avaya Gold Wireless card) via numerous walls and 2 story's. I have 4/5 bars... Something definitely wrong with your 'book... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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I was referring to the 'straight line of sight' comment. - Original Message - From: Wiebe Wilbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 8:59 PM Subject: Re: disappointing tiBook wireless Pretty bold assumption to make there Ryan - that I don't have those appliances too... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 02:11PM, Paul Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:51 PM +0100 7/22/03, Roger Shufflebottom wrote: This reflects my experience (TiBook 800). I have a Buffalo wireless base station. I had to experiment with the base station location - it is now hanging from the ceiling in my closet! In some rooms - OK. In other I have to be in just the right spot and angle the PB just so. Ryan Coleman's comments seem correct. My range out of doors is very poor compare with figures I've see from other model PBs. Well, I guess if the tiBook built in 802.11b is next to useless, I might as well take the 802.11b router back and get 802.11g equipment. i was having problems with my Airport range with a Belkin wireless station. i thought my TiBook was the problem until my dad brought his iBook over and noticed he was only getting 50% signal at about 50 feet. i swapped the belkin for an Apple base station and suddenly my range is much better. not as good as i'd like, but definitely better. not that you should go out and buy an ABS - but before you lay all the blame on your TiBook, try another router. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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Yes, I have the same problem of low performance with an original TiBook and airport. It got worse when I had to have the display replaced, and now is essentially a range of 20 feet. My wife has a blueberry iBook and can reach the airport from halfway down the block! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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On 7/22/03 11:00 PM, Jim Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: Yes, I have the same problem of low performance with an original TiBook and airport. It got worse when I had to have the display replaced, and now is essentially a range of 20 feet. My wife has a blueberry iBook and can reach the airport from halfway down the block! I am typing this in a TiBook 667 DVI and I am a good 40 feet from my router with a couple of walls in between and my signal is strong. I also have every manner of electronic device in my home as well. I *did* toss my old 2.4GHz cordless phone for a 5.8 GHz range model so it wouldn't interfere with my reception though. ;-0 -- Kyle H. Hansen It's Always darkest... right before it gets totally black. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
