Re: Have to replace my dying MDD

[Dana Collins]

Hello J org,
Glad you moved from a G4 to G5 - at first thought, if you have a spare
keyboard, swap it out to make sure it is not a keyboard issue, after that
plug the keyboard into a fresh USB port.
Are you using the old OS that was on the HDs when they were housed in the
G4, or did you put a fresh OS on the G5 (Leopard, for ex.). Finally, see if
your G5 has had the latest firmware installed.
These are just basic lcd (lowest common denominator) trouble-shooting items
that come to mind; after this its time to terminal.
Regards,
Dana


On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:24 PM, Jörg Duurkoop  wrote:

> Hi again,
>
> I got a good deal on the last edition of the G5 quadcore and it seems
> solid. The only thing I'm puzzled about is lately it won't react to the Alt
> command when starting up. Normally you get the choice of startup disks
> available but now the G5 just ignores the Alt key and starts from the disk
> chosen in the system prefs. Can be a major PITA under certain circumstances.
>
> Anybody any idea what causes this? I replaced the PRAM battery although
> Everymac.com says "doesn't apply".
>
> TIA for your valuable comments.
>
> Jörg from the Netherlands.
>
>
>
> Op maandag 12 maart 2018 15:50:56 UTC+1 schreef Jörg Duurkoop:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My fourth MDD is having power supply problems and I'm tired of buying
>> just another one and transfer 4 HDs, all my PCI cards, RAM and my 1.25 Ghz
>> DP card again and waiting for another failing power supply.
>>
>> I decided to go for a G5 instead and can get the top model for a good
>> price. So what changes do I have to make? I can throw away my M-Audio
>> Revolution card as the G5 has optical audio in and out. I can keep on using
>> my Samsung digital TV as my monitor, it's already perfectly calibrated and
>> I'll get a Mac Pro monitor extra.
>>
>> I already use two Sata HDs with Tiger in my MDD with adapters so I can
>> simply transplant them. But I want to keep my legacy SCSI devices like a
>> nice old Microtec scanner and an old MOD drive so I'll need a PCI-e
>> SCSI-card. Do you have any suggestions which cards will work with Tiger in
>> the G5 2.5 Ghz DP quadcore?
>>
>> The G5 should be the latest edition so I don't expect any woes with the
>> liquid cooling system. Any other suggestions anybody? I hope for a smooth
>> transition. Thank you.
>>
>> Best regards, Jörg.
>>
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Re: My G5 problems (resurrecting two PowerMac G5 computers)

[Dana Collins]

Hi Timo,
Welcome back. Hopefully it is your hard drive and not the SATA controller
chip on the motherboard. The drive is certainly a strong consideration, and
of course the cheaper of the two to troubleshoot.

You do not need railings or sleds for the HDs on a G5. You DO need four
convex standout screws that screw into the hard drive sides are are used as
guides for the drive to slide down the visible channels in the HD bay sides
- top drive goes in first, starting in the middle channel (it corrects
itself as the drive is inserted, ending in the top channel), then the
second drive goes straight into the bottom third channel.
The screws are plastic, and of course, being Apple, unique in design-the
heads are rounded and polished - regular HD screws will catch on the glides.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Dana
(Collins - Ft. Wayne, IN)

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:58 AM, TVirkkala <multi...@wirkman.com> wrote:

> It's been years since I've been active on these lists. I come out of
> lurkage a bit confused, largely because, well, I've forgotten some things I
> used to know about my Macs.
>
> I've had two PowerMac G5s for some time, a 9,1 and an 11,2 — that is, a
> Late 2004 1.8GHz and a final year model G5, as in the signature at bottom.
>
> The slower G5 occasionally starts up with system error - non-GUI command
> line stuff. It has asked me, in recent months, to ask if I really wanted to
> start the computer, etc. I type in what it says to, and the thing comes up
> again.
>
> I assume the hard drive is going down, corrupting the system. Does this
> seem reasonable?
>
> If the hard drive is no good, then this is what I thought I'd do:
>
> a. Get a new hard drive for the 2x2.3 device. Install.
> b. Clone my main drive onto the new drive. Shut down.
> c. Take out the newly cloned drive and place it in the 1.8Ghz PowerMac,
> make it the main drive.
> d. Get another new hard drive. A much bigger hard drive. Clone my current
> drive and then use the new, larger drive as the primary drive.
>
> Does this sound reasonable?
>
> I thought I needed special sleds for these things. But the 1.8Ghz didn't
> seem to need sleds at all, but used hard drive with screws on the bottom.
> Are the hard drive hardware the same between the two computers?
>
> Sorry this is so basic, but I haven't been playing with the innards of
> Macs for nearly a decade.
>
> I'm writing on the G5x2.3GHz PowerMac right now. I've been using it for
> the last few weeks. It seems to be working well, though Web browsing is now
> difficult, and the best browser seems to be TenFourFox.
>
> I stopped using it regularly when Avid M-Powered-8 ceased to write
> ("bounce") my MIDI files to disc. I hope to resurrect this program this
> month, and fix the error. I cannot afford to by LogicPro for my MacPro
> because I'm spending all my money on repairing my iPads this month.
>
> Sorry for the long story.
>
> I do love my faster PowerMac. It has 13GB of RAM, and seems to work most
> operations just fine. It handles my Photoshop needs very well — though I'm
> afraid to try editing movies on it. Previous movie editing on G5s seems
> slow and "problematic" to me.
>
> Timo V
>  PowerPC G5x2.3GHz
>
>
>
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Re: OT-ManIntel Group assistance

[Dana Collins]

Thank you, Alex.
Appreciate the confirm.
Regards,
Dana


On 1/25/14 3:27 PM, Alex Sciortino of zeosr...@gmail.com sent

 You will have no issue with a SATA III drive. Good luck!

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Re: Joining the Intel Group

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Thank you, Fabian.
Dana


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 On Apr 6, 2013, at 12:16 PM, DLC wrote:
 
 Hopefully not too off-topic: where does one go to join the Intel-based
 grooup? Not readily apparent.
 Many thanks,
 Dana
 
 
 The subscription procedures for the LEM MacIntel Group are quite clear here:
 http://lowendmac.com/lists/macintel.html
 
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Re: New Forums

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On 3/26/13 11:36 AM, Frank Dutra of fdut...@gmail.com sent


 
 Agreed, I have various list archives going back to 1993 that have
 solved most of my Mac related problems. Heck, I feel like a lot of
 people here are my trusted, respected friends that I would greet
 enthusiastically if ever to meet offlist.
 

Frank is very kind... I too feel the same way.
Regards,
Dana


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Re: internal cdrom eject

[Dana Collins]

Hello, Paolo,

RE: your first concern, does the eject module (the one that is placed by
the OS in the upper task-Menu- bar) work if you click on it? If you  don't
have it present, and would like it, go to
HD/System/Library/CoreServices/MenuExtras - double click on the Eject.menu
script and the little triangle will appear. I'm curious if your disc drive
responds to that.

RE: your second concern, my first thought was to go into the CD/DVDs
Preference Panel (System Preferences/Hardware/CDs  DVDs) and set it to
Ask when a disc is loaded.
Just my first thought.
Regards,
Dana

On 2/17/13 8:17 AM, Paolo Tassotti tasso...@di.uniroma1.it wrote:

As suggested by some of you, I've swapped the internal CD burner of my
G4 with a Nec DVD burner grabbed from a Lacie enclosure whose power
supply is apparently dead.

All works fine, but I would be even happier if the eject button on
my keyboard would work as it did with the old Sony reader !

I don't want to run Roxio Toast Titanium every time I need to read a CD...

Is there any solution for this ?


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Re: @Dana G5 to MacPro

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(Quote)
So I will need to get a bootable DVD of 10.6.8 and install it normally
on a small internal drive, transfer all my old Applewotks files to it
and use it as a bootable drive in the preferences.

Dan
(end quote)

Yes, or certainly a 10.6 disc, then update it to 10.6.8 via the web.
Regards,
Dana




On 1/22/13 12:08 AM, Dan Currie danc...@frontiernet.net wrote:

On 1/21/13 9:35 PM, Dana Collins wrote:
 Hello Dan, I had the same problem- had so many syllabi in Apple Works,
 I was not looking forward to exporting so many into iWorks - and I'm
 just not THAT fond of Pages yet. The nice feature about the Mac Pros
 is how easy it is to add another HD (it can take 4 - yum!). I found a
 smallish SATA drive, installed it, made it bootable into Snow Leopard
 (10.6.8) and reserved all my AW productivity for that volume alone,
 for which A-works still can run with Rosetta installed. When I'm done,
 I reboot into Lion (no ML yet) on the main drive and I am good to go
 with music work. Saved me having to find yet another app to contend
 with. HTH. Regards, Dana

So I will need to get a bootable DVD of 10.6.8 and install it normally
on a small internal drive, transfer all my old Applewotks files to it
and use it as a bootable drive in the preferences.

Dan

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Re: SCSI issue has arisen

[Dana Collins]

Hi Len,
Thank you - I did track one down for a reasonable price. Not from Hong
kong, but close enough - New Jersey :-)
At any rate we'll see if the ATTO Express U2 card I picked up does the
trick.
Thanks again,
Dana

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Jan 15, 2013, at 7:34 PM, t...@prismnet.com wrote:



 On Jan 15, 12:13 pm, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote:


  Beiges have onboard 50 pin SCSI. Just get one of the SCA to 50 pin
 adapters


 snip



 Do you remember where you got them?  Part number?   I would dearly
 like to get some $5 SCA=50 pin adapters with termination.   There
 are a bunch of 2.5 SCSI drives available now in the ~$10 range would
 would make nice little drives in older machines, if affordable
 adapters with termination could be found.


 I just picked some of the cheap ones off ebay from Hong Kong. A little
 longer shipping, but I see some right now for $2.75 each shipped. So if you
 are not in a hurry (I seem to remember them taking about 10 days to get to
 me), they are a pretty good deal.

 Just search for SCA 50 pin and that will get them.

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Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard

[Dana Collins]

Hello Andreas,
Thank you for the invaluable information. It was very helpful.
Let's see if I can find that diagnostics disc, and if not, then I know what to 
do with the G5.
Best regards,
Dana

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On Oct 7, 2012, at 2:53 AM, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote:

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 Subject: Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
 Date:Sunday, 07. October 2012
 From:DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com
 To:  G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Greetings all,
 Still curious about this scenario. Simply, can one swap good G5 CPUs
 into a replacement motherboard without any problems?
 Thanks,
 Dana
 
 On Oct 2, 10:56 pm, DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings all.
 I while back I had a troublesome G5 tower (June 04 model Dual 1.8GHz CPUs
 w/PCI slots, 8x AGP) that was giving me boot-up issues. With help from
 the list, I pretty much determined that I needed to replace the
 motherboard. I've located a reasonably priced replacement, so I would
 like to execute the swap-out. Here is my question:
 once I plug in the known-good CPUs into the motherboard, am I going to
 have to execute the CU provisioning that requires the special boot CD
 and service code to initialize it/them?
 I'd hate to expend resources and time just to find out the hard way.
 Thanks in advance for your advice.
 Regards,
 Dana
 
 From what I’ve heard, you will require a Apple Service Diagnostics disc from 
 which you have to boot and to recalibrate the CPUs with the mainboard. If you 
 don’t, you might get very loud fans in the good scenario or burn anything on 
 the mainboard or the CPUs in the bad scenario.
 
 But this is just what I heard, not what I know.
 
 The thing with the service code to activate them is also something that 
 sounds 
 reasonable to me…
 
 For G5s, you need the 2.5.7 ASD discs. For the Late-2005 G5s, the last G5s 
 built, you will require the 2.5.8 ASD discs.
 
 You may be able to find a downloadable version, but be aware that Apple never 
 officially made a download available for this.
 Since Apple abandoned the Power Macs in my sense you can consider it to be 
 Abandonware though.
 
 The swap will work if the CPU is the same series. For instance, you will have 
 to use a PowerPC 970 processor for the original G5, a PowerPC 970fx will not 
 work. And I’m pretty sure that for the later models using the PowerPC 970fx 
 processors, a PowerPC 970 will not work. The same goes for the PowerPC 970MP 
 which can only be found in the Late-2005 G5s.
 
 The June-2004 has PowerPC 970fx processors.
 
 Good luck!
 Cheers,
 Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250
 
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Re: Need 2 things via PB G4 and OS Lion directory help

[Dana Collins]

Thank you, Tedappreciate it.
Dana
(iPad-sent)

On Mar 10, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Edward Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com wrote:

 1) in Lion, how do I make the folder window (when opened in List view)
 indicate at the bottom of the window the no. of items currently in the
 folder (as
   it does in Leopard and snow Leopard)? Every window in 10.5, when
 opened, displays information re; the no. of items in the folder, and
 the amount of
   disk space still available - I want to replicate that in Lion.
 
 
 In Finder, go to View menu, , 9th item down, Show Status Bar (or CMD + /)
 
 
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Re: Need 2 things via PB G4 and OS Lion directory help

[Dana Collins]

Hi David. Thank you for the response.
Since copying is a Finder operation, this would translate into a force Finder 
to quit -wich was what was hoping to avoid.
Actually I was wondering if there was any way to simply get the Mac to obey 
what it's told to do when you use the intended operation (stop copying).

Dana 

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 On Mar 10, 2012, at 2:17 PM, DLC wrote:
 Any way to make the
 iMac give up
   copying harmlessly?
 
 Any thoughts on either would be greatly appreciated.
 Regards,
 Dana
 
 
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Re: Odd QuickSilver Dual boot behavior

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On 1/29/11 11:46 PM, Kris Tilford of ktilfo...@cox.net sent

 On Jan 29, 2011, at 9:27 PM, DLC wrote:
 
 If I boot into OS 9 straight (normal), I will not get a screen to show
 (remains black) - lack of HD activity makes me suspect that no booting
 is engaged either.
 
 By normal I assume you mean selecting the OX 9 in Startup Disk?
 Since support for Classic ended at OS 10.4.11, there's a chance that
 Startup Disk in 10.5.8 doesn't handle OS 9 booting correctly? 10.5.8
 is unsupported for the Quicksilver.
 
 There's another way to select OS 9 or OS X by keyboard commands. You
 can hold the 9 key to boot OS 9, or the X key to boot OS X.
 
 IF, however, I start up, hold left-shift key, and then choose OS 9
 from the OS selection panel that appears, the unit boots into OS 9 and
 operates fine.
 
 I think you mean the Option key rather than the left-Shift key. The
 Shift key gives a Safe Boot in OS X; and no extensions in OS 9. The
 Option key gives the bootable devices menu.
 
 Personally, I wouldn't worry about it, how often do you boot OS 9? If
 you use OS 9 that much, it'd probably be better to install OS 10.4.11
 and use Classic emulation within OS X. As an added perk, Tiger is
 about 20% faster than Leopard on PPC CPUs.
 

Hello Kris (and Clark),
Thank you both for the input. Some clarification
€Yes, I meant the left option key to call up the bootable device menu screen
€No, I am not referring to Classic emulation within OS X 10.5
€If I call up the System Preference StartUp Disk, and select OS 9, then
 Restart the unit will not successfully boot into 9 (black/blank screen)
 If I repeat the scenario, but add the left-option key gesture, the QS WILL
 boot up into OS 9
€The QS DID boot up off the OS 9.22 (universal install) CD (so that install
 of the OS was successful), but on the subsequent restart was treated to my
 black screen of death
€If this is consistent enough, I'll leave it as is - I'll have to acquiesce
 to the actual owner's wishes; if he really needs to get into OS 9
 consistently, I would back it down to Tiger, as (yes, I agree) it is faster
 on PPCs as you said, Kris. However, I have a sneaky suspicion that that
 would not solve the problem :-)
Am curious if the QS needs a certain enabler in OS 9 - were enablers needed
by this time (2001-02)? I seem to recall that the MDDs, in using 9.2.2,
needed a machine-specific extension/ROM image added to the System Folder.
In the end, I find this curious (and not obstructive), as when the unit IS
in OS 9, it runs just fine (as it does in OS X).
Thanks,
Dana


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Re: Odd QuickSilver Dual boot behavior

[Dana Collins]

Hi Kris,
As below:


On 1/30/11 7:08 PM, Kris Tilford of ktilfo...@cox.net sent

 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Dana Collins wrote:
 
 QS DID boot up off the OS 9.22 (universal install) CD (so that install
 of the OS was successful)
 
 I don't believe there's such as thing as a 9.2.2 universal install CD.
 The final retail OS 9 disc was the OS 9.1 disc that's white with the
 orange/yellow 9 on it. This disc installs OS 9.1 and is the only
 universal disc I'm aware of. It requires both a 9.2.1 and a 9.2.2
 update to reach the final OS 9.2.2 installation.
 
 There were quite a few of the grey OS 9.2.1 discs that shipped with
 most of the G3  G4 Macs that came with OS X as the original OEM OS.
 The only 9.2.2 discs I'm aware of came with the MDD and were specific
 to the MDD. There's also the free download of the 9.2.2 netboot OS X
 installer package:http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1192 If you use
 this, remove the two netboot extensions from the System
 FolderExtensions Folder.
 

I have been using a retail install of OS 9.2.1. It was a disc that came as
part of a package set issued by Apple which included OS 10.2 and some
educator's development tools. Then using a .img of 9.2.2 update to arrive at
my final destination.

 
 but on the subsequent restart was treated to my black screen of
 death
 
 It sure sounds like what you're calling your black screen of death
 is simply a computer that isn't finding a bootable drive. Normally a
 Mac would eventually default back to a firmware screen with an icon of
 a folder with a flashing ? on it. Since you're not seeing this, and
 you've said the HDs aren't doing anything, it doesn't seem likely to
 me that it's a video card issue. It seems like a PRAM/NVRAM issue. You
 should reset the NVRAM using these instructions:
 
 1)Boot holding the Cmd-Opt-O-F keys
 2)at the Open Firmware prompt, type:
 
 set-defaultsReturn
 reset-allReturn
 

Did this, no change for better, or worse

 where Return means to hit the Return key
 You should see a response of ok to the 1st command, and a restart
 after hitting the Return key of the 2nd command.
 
 Hopefully this will straighten out your startup disk issues. If not,
 you may have a bad HD or other hardware issue?

This may help. I have developed a scenario, involving the boot up from
left-option key, then select the OS 9 (.22) drive, then holding down the
left-shift (as if I want to start w/ no extensions). What happens is,
immediately after the OS 9.2 splash screen (happy Mac 2-face), I get the
following message:
The built-in memory test has detected a problem with cache memory. Please
contact a service technician for assistance.
The OS then proceeds to boot (with extensions - no-extensions keystroke
ignored) normally, and operate normally. This warning is splayed even after
turning off the memory test and reducing the system cache.
It would help if I knew this: does anyone know IF the OWC Mercury G4
(1.5GHz, rev. 2, not 3) processor upgrade was supposed to have an L3 cache
or not? Here's a picture for identification:
http://eshop.macsales.com/images/Items/owcmeg4/card.jpg

About this Mac in Leopard does not show an L3 cache present, so I'm just
wondering.

Thank you for the consideration.
Best regards,
Dana






















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Re: Odd QuickSilver Dual boot behavior

[Dana Collins]

On 1/30/11 10:11 PM, Kris Tilford of ktilfo...@cox.net sent

 On Jan 30, 2011, at 8:38 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote:
 
 I have a disc labeled 9.2.1.
 
 Yes, this is the standard grey semi-universal disc that ships with
 Macs that come with OS X standard. It will install a bootable System
 on almost all Macs, so it's universal in the sense that you'll get a
 bootable System, but it's not universal in the sense that it's missing
 extensions for earlier PowerMac models that didn't ship with OS X. For
 example, the Beige G3 series requires special extensions to enable the
 Wings AV personality card, and while the grey disc will give you 9.2.1
 that boots, it won't enable the Wings AV card, so it's not a
 universal installer.
 
 I got the MDD and Apple sent this for $10 shortly after as part of
 some upgrade program.
 
 The MDD shipped with Jaguar 10.2. Retail boxes of Jaguar 10.2 also
 contained a retail 9.1 CD. The grey 9.2.1 was probably an additional
 disc with a Panther upgrade disc set? The grey 9.2.1 disc is very
 common, more common than the 9.1 retail disc. For most purposes, the
 differences between these discs (white 9.1 retail  grey 9.2.1
 universal) is negligible, but in certain rare circumstances it can be
 slightly problematic. If your 9.2.1 disc was shipped for a MDD, it's
 likely the rarest 9.2 disc, the special MDD disc that adds specific
 support for the MDD only. I don't know, but I assume the special MDD
 disc is a superset disc that will work on all earlier Macs also?

Hi Kris,
Sent you and everyone a longer response with some new, maybe telling,
developments.
My OS 9.2.1 install CD is as you described: white background, big yellow 9
in the center, apropos logos and copyright stuff on it. Part no. 691-3334-A.
I used this to install the OS 2nd time around. First time was indeed a
universal grey label version of 9.2.2 - I scrubbed the drive clean and
used this retail version of 9.2.1 hoping that it might make some sort of
difference.
Thanks,
Dana


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Re: Moving Stuff to a New (to me) Machine

[Dana Collins]

On 1/26/11 5:48 PM, James Therrault of jetas...@netzero.com sent

 
 On Jan 15, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Jack Countryman wrote:
 
 On 1/15/11 9:14 AM, Al Poulin wrote:
 
 On Jan 14, 10:16 pm, James Therraultjetas...@netzero.com  wrote:
 I'm finally making the move into the modern age and am asking
 for  suggestions as to 2.5 external enclosures to copy the
 contents of my  current machine, (G4 Gigabit), to a 500GB SATA
 drive. I eventually  will use the 500GB as the boot drive in the
 new machine, late '09 Mac  Mini.
 Start by looking at OWC, and then compare the offerings of other
 vendors.  Consider which interfaces you would use now and possibly
 later with newer machines.
 http://www.macsales.com/
 Their telephone representatives are very helpful too.
 
 Al Poulin
 
 Could he use firewire disk mode with the new mini and then hook it
 up via firewire cable to the g4 and copy stuff that way?  That way
 he wouldn't need to buy an enclosure for one temporary use.
 
 
 I ended up by buying one of them thar' three way thingies that let's
 you run, IDE 2.5/3.5 or SATA raw drives via USB.   I had several
 drives hanging around and cleaned 'em off.  Two would not respond so
 an execution by sledge will be applied.
 
 JT

Hey, save the magnets for me! :-)
Dana


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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

[Dana Collins]

On 1/25/11 11:12 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 On Jan 25, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
 
 Wow , now I am really envious. A G5 from Goodwill? In my town a G5, if anyone
 had bought one, would be used until it as dust, and considered so valuable
 that it would be on eBay for months to meet the reserve !
 
 Check the LEM profiles to figure out the model. Or look in system profiler.
 The manual should be easy to find online.
 
 I was talking about the microphone.

LOL! I knew that was coming ;-) Jeff, you need a preamp for this style
microphone, particularly if it has a long cable - an online preamp (which
really acts as much as a signal isolator), 1-1 I/O, is all you need
(although a quick scan on eBay offerings did not yield such simple
solutions; more elegant offerings are available, costing - I am sure- at
least 20x more than what you paid for the mike).
This was a common frustration with Finale's MakeMusic application (their
Music Minus One accompanying software) where their microphones (which, by
necessity, had long 8' cables on them) did not work with Macs until they
started including preamps with the models (the new MakeMusic mikes are USB).
PCs were fine without the preamp. Why the difference I was never told,
though easy to speculate, electronically.

Best way to find one is to ask a friend whose Mac-centric child used to
use MakeMusic for practice purposes still had their mike.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: GeForce Ti Question

[Dana Collins]

On 1/21/11 2:37 PM, Baldassare Guzzo of guz...@gmail.com sent

 Dana,
 
 Try this for some interesting  reading.   It doesnt say everything, but maybe
 it will get you closer.  Read pages 1 and 2.
 
 http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Blog/8923D90A-7AD8-41F1-BD1A-FEA5E
 1780B95.html
 
 Also, Make sure the fan is running.  If the fan is not good on the card, I've
 READ that it can have an effect.  There was some Apple support pages too but I
 cant find them.

 
 On Jan 21, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Dana Collins wrote:
 
  On 1/21/11 6:03 AM, Barney Guzzo guz...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
 Dana,
  What monitor do you have?  I just read some interesting info.
  
  On Jan 21, 2011 2:12 AM, Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wouldn't count on that EEE number, I have 11 G4 towers and none of
 the video cards has an EEE anywhere in the serial number. Two of them
 I bought brand new and I know they still have the original video card.
 Most likely the rest do too but of course I can't guarantee that.
  
 
  Hi Barney,
  I was using a simple Viewsonic 17² flat panel, AGP connected.
  -Dana  
 

Hello Barney,
Good reading, thank you for the link. Basically, I have returned the card to
its original unit running Tiger, and used a different ATI card for my
friend's newer unit. The ATI is, I think, a 7500, admittedly less robust,
BUT, if it works, then IT is more robust!


Baldassare (Barney - here in America)

Barney's easier, but Baldassare is morecosmopolitan! :-)

Thank you for your continued input, and likewise to all the other
contributors.
Regards,
Dana


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Re: GeForce Ti Question

[Dana Collins]

On 1/21/11 6:03 AM, Barney Guzzo guz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dana,
 What monitor do you have?  I just read some interesting info.
 
 On Jan 21, 2011 2:12 AM, Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com wrote:
  I wouldn't count on that EEE number, I have 11 G4 towers and none of
  the video cards has an EEE anywhere in the serial number. Two of them
  I bought brand new and I know they still have the original video card.
  Most likely the rest do too but of course I can't guarantee that.

Hi Barney,
I was using a simple Viewsonic 17² flat panel, AGP connected.
-Dana

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Re: GeForce Ti Question

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On 1/21/11 2:12 AM, Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wouldn't count on that EEE number, I have 11 G4 towers and none of
 the video cards has an EEE anywhere in the serial number. Two of them
 I bought brand new and I know they still have the original video card.
 Most likely the rest do too but of course I can't guarantee that.
Understood. Both ATI and Nvidia gave up, long ago, the simple procedure od
stamping the model name/no. On the card (prob. Due to outsourcing
sub-contracting tasks).
This situation begs a larger question: just how does one determine the model
of a card (short of installing it and hoping the OS gives an accurate
report)? Is there a site somewhere that list part no.-to-model specs?

Thanks for the input, Wayne.
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Re: GeForce Ti Question

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On 1/20/11 1:36 PM, Baldassare Guzzo of guz...@gmail.com sent

 I have a QS 2002 running 10.4.11 and the Ti4600.  I replaced the
 Geforce 4 mx because the reviews said it was a much better card.  I
 have not noticed a huge increase in speed, especially quicktime or
 internet.  However, it runs flawlessly.   A question for the group -
 Whats the best way to test your graphics cards?
 
 Dana,
 Is the card seated well in the slot? Is it the long card or the
 short card?  The short or older Ti 4600 had problems when they
 were shipped and from what I remember didnt seat well in the slot.
 
 
 On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:07 PM, DLC wrote:
 
 Greetings all,
 I have a graphics card issue here.
 I am attempting to help a friend upgrade to leopard via his newly
 acquired QuickSilver.
 Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x
 AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older
 sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a
 made-
 for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit).
 So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is
 horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not
 make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these
 little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time.
 Is this a driver issue, or did this unit just plain incompatible with
 Leopard?
 
 Please alert me ASAP, with my thanks.
 Dana

Hello Baldassare,
Thank you for responding. It is the long card. Has a series of numbers that
are no help in determining model or part no. (do they ever these days?).
Like yours, this card ran well in Tiger, but I am trying to run it in
Leopard with no success - I suspect it is incompatible, hence my question.

Dana


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Re: GeForce Ti Question

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On 1/20/11 2:18 PM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent

 At 10:07 AM -0800 1/20/2011, DLC wrote:
 upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver.
 NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP)
 
 In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly.
 
 So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is
 horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not
 make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these
 little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time.
 
 Reseat the card.

Done

 Reset the PMU (press the CUDA button ONCE).

Done

 Zap the PRAM.

Oh, done, done done!

 then boot...
 
Yep

 If still problems, try booting on Tiger - see if that makes a difference.

Oh, yes, yes, yes, as I suspected - works fine in Tiger, a no go in Leopard.
I was able to get the card to boot once in Leopard (single user mode), but
it still had the artifacts mentioned present, and then it would not repeat
mounting on a reboot.
SO, it appears to be unsupported in Leopard - too bad, a somewhat nice card.
Given my general alacrity for Nvidia, I'm not surprised.

Thanks for responding, Dan (and Baldassare).
Dana


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Re: GeForce Ti Question

[Dana Collins]

On 1/20/11 5:19 PM, Kris Tilford of ktilfo...@cox.net sent

 On Jan 20, 2011, at 12:07 PM, DLC wrote:
 
 Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x
 AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older
 sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a
 made-
 for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit).
 
 The Mac card is called a GeForce4 Titanium or GF4 Ti for short. If
 this card says 4600 on it anywhere it's a flashed PC card, and my
 understanding is that this would also require moving resistors on the
 card in addition to flashing the ROM to Mac.
 
 You might look at these photos to see if your card looks like the real
 Mac cards?:
 http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/geforce4_ti/geforce4_titanium_Mac.html
 
 
 This card should work in Leopard. Since you're not getting QE/CI
 support, you might do a kextstat command in Terminal and see what
 video card kexts are loaded. If you don't have any nVidia kexts
 loaded, then you've got a software issue. You should be able to get
 this card working unless it's got problems. If it's a flashed PC card,
 you may need to tweak it to get it working.

Hi Kris,
Thank you for the heads-up. I'll check out the photo from xlr8 when I can
(their server seems to be down at the moment). My guess is that you're
correct - it just may be a flashed card. Though I cannot find 4600 at all,
it also doesn't have the EEE listing which I was told at:
http://www.welovemacs.com/nv.html
the card should have

(here is what they say):
(quote)
EEE Code Note: All Apple Video Card have a special three digit EEE code
embedded in the Video Card serial number which positively identifies the
part. Please note that this is the serial number of the Video Card, NOT the
serial number of the machine. The Video Card serial number is on a tag which
has the format xxxEEEx. The EEE code is the three letters
immediately preceding the last digit of the serial number.
(end quote)


Checking the kext load makes sense, though the issue would be getting the
card to respond enough to load enough OS to run the terminal.

Thanks again,
Dana


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Re: GeForce Ti Question

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On 1/20/11 6:45 PM, Rock of rockie5...@gmail.com sent

 I have the same card running under Leopard in a dual 1.42 ghz mirrored
 door drive without any problems. It was also running in a dual 1 ghz
 mirrored door drive under Leopard with out any problems. I think your
 problem is machine specific. Possibly something in the firmware?
 
 Russell
 
 On 1/20/2011 1:07 PM, DLC wrote:
 Greetings all,
 I have a graphics card issue here.
 I am attempting to help a friend upgrade to leopard via his newly
 acquired QuickSilver.
 Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x
 AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older
 sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made-
 for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit).
 So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is
 horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not
 make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these
 little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time.
 Is this a driver issue, or did this unit just plain incompatible with
 Leopard?
 
 Please alert me ASAP, with my thanks.
 Dana
 
 Possibly; as Dan and Kris suggested, I too lean towards a software issue,
as the behavior certainly resembled a faulty driver - would be nice if Apple
posted updates to such instead of the one size fits all OS-embedded
method.
And I will check the firmware of the G4 itself. Anyone know the latest
version for a QuickSilver?
Thanks to all,
Dana


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Re: Appleworks problem

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On 1/17/11 9:43 PM, John Callahan of jcalla...@stny.rr.com sent

 
 On Jan 17, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote:
 
 Hi Group,
 I would like to know what replaces Appleworks.
 I am using G4  G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11
 I do not want to put OS9 on them.
 Wm
 
 
 
 Nothing replaces Appleworks :-( :-(:-( :-(!!!

Here, here! AppleWorks rocks! Though I am trying hard to get used to Pages'
syntax (not easy, imho).
I have used AppleWorks 6.2.9 in Leopard for quite some time now, both PPC
and Intel. Have not tried it in Snow Leopard.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Child Mac user advice needed

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On 1/9/11 7:53 PM, Jonas Lopez of jonaslo...@yahoo.com sent

 Child Mac user advice needed
 
 PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST:
 
 Grandchild's parents asked me for Mac computer for kid 6, grade kindergarden,
 is this too young?
 
 I have NO EXPERIENCE with programs for children.
 
 Would a G3 work to start?
 
 Are there children programs for G3? Where, who, etc.
  
I too am giving a G3 (yes, Jonas, I am starting out with that) to a
ministerial family with kids, and would also like to know if there are some
educational games available for a G3 running Tiger (this G3 has a G4/500MHz
CPU upgrade to it, for what it¹s worth).

Thanks,
Dana

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Re: Sudden power loss in G5

[Dana Collins]

 Subject: Sudden power loss in G5
 
 I have a dual 2.7 Ghz PPC G5 w/ 4.5 GB ram.  The machine recently
 started powering off without warning.  Is this signs of a power supply
 failing?  If so how hard are the power supplies to replace in these
 towers?
 
 Thanks for the help.
 
 Leo
 
On 1/3/11 3:37 PM, schaf...@comcast.net of schaf...@comcast.net sent

 
 
 Leo,
 
 Power supplies are a bitch requiring removing almost everything.  My 2.3 dual
 core went abruptly with a flash and a stench.  However, you may be having
 problems with coolant leaking onto your electronics, which is worse.  Check
 this out IMMEDIATELY!
 
 Fine machine otherwise!
 
  - Peter
 
AND they are expensive, too!  (either diagnosis for that matter).
-Dana

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Re: Desktop wallpaper for that bigger screen...

[Dana Collins]

Whoa...it's Bill!
Nice to hear that you're still around, mate.
A Happy Christmas and New Year season to you and yours.
Best regards,
Dana

(p.s. I like MacDesktops, too, and appreciate that the good pictures are
available in so many resolutions)


On 12/20/10 8:25 PM, Cornett of corn...@gol.com sent

 Dan, et All
 
 G'day! to All..
 
 Anyone gots some recommendations / favs?
 
 I've mostly always used:
 http://macdesktops.com/
 after finding an appealing wallpaper's thumbnail, just click
 to reveal all the sizes available, then option-click on your
 needed 1680 x 1050 to download, follow up by tossing it/them
 into a handy folder in your user's Pictures, enjoy.
 
 (note: if you're using a multi-displays setup, grab each size
 needed to pick on separate Display sets in System Preferances
 if you'd like them neatly matching, even when not mirrored;-)
 
 All the Best of The Season to All
 
 Respectful of GURUs
 Bill Cornett
 Rust Never Sleeps -N. Young
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Re: What card is this?

[Dana Collins]

On 12/22/10 11:21 PM, Andrew Liu Anderson of ma...@lonepineradio.net sent

 Hello All,
 
I have 2 G4 Sawtooth computers. One is 400Mhz, the other 450Mhz. One
 of them has a small card, approximately 2-1/2 X 3-1/2 mounted on the
 motherboard between the Airport card slot and the PCI cars slots. There
 are 2 screws holding it down, and there is a tiny cable connected to it.
 The other computer has a slot on the motherboard, the mounting posts and
 the tiny cable, but no card. Both computers work fine. Does anyone know
 what this card is for? The card does say, Apple on it.
 
 Cheers,
 Drew


Hello Andrew,
I believe you are referring to the modem; yes, a little 2 x 2.5 (approx.)
Card that plugs into the motherboard, should be held down with the two
mentioned screws (and a clip on the alternate edge). The little data cable
snakes underneath the motherboard all the way to the modem filter on the
opposite side of the board (providing the external port). This modem form
factor was used by all G4 units, and, at least in concept, by the early G5s.
Regards,
Dana


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Re: Desktop wallpaper for that bigger screen...

[Dana Collins]

On 12/20/10 11:28 AM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent

 Ok.  So I finally got around to putting a bigger display on this
 power mac here at home.
 
 It's a Samsung, 23, 1680x1050.
 
 Speededed up m'mouse, so it doesn't take so long to get from one side
 to the other.  The MouseZoom syspref is quite handy to for that.
 Wish it went to 11 - sometimes you just need to go plaid.
 
 Now I need some higher resolution pics for my desktop.
 
 Anyone gots some recommendations / favs?
 
 Thanks,
 - Dan.


Hi Dan,
Congrats! The big screen is a delight (I too have a large Samsung front of
me).
Try http://macdesktops.com/
to see if anything delights you there
I found quite a few 1920x1600 resolution picts to choose from.
Hope this helps,
Dana


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Re: Dead computer??

[Dana Collins]

On 12/21/10 7:06 PM, DAN A CURRIE of danc...@frontiernet.net sent

 My sons MDD 1.25 dualie 2GB RAM running 10.5 has died. We had a
 electrical storm a couple of days ago so I unplugged it, forgot to plug
 it in until today, when I did and pressed the start button, NOTHING! Put
 a new MB battery in it and pressed the button again, NOTHING!
 
 I have never had a computer die and this is my old computer and it is
 lean and well maintained.
 
 Ideas and suggestions welcome,
 
 Dan

Hi Dan,
Before giving up on it, pull the battery again, and reset the motherboard by
pressing the PMU button (good solid 3-5 single push). I recall when one did
this on older G4s that resetting the board worked best by unplugging the
power cord, unplugging the PSU from the board, yanking the battery, pressing
the reset button, then waiting (at least) 10-15 minutes before reassembling.
Just happened to a QuickSilver recently (the dead part); glad I remembered
this trick.
HTH,
Dana


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Re: Example of using the logs to debug

[Dana Collins]

On 12/18/10 1:41 AM, Clark Martin of cm...@sonic.net sent

 I just went through a couple of days trying to install some software (but
 failing) and finally solved it so I figured I'd pass on some details of it in
 case it may help someone in a similar fix.
 
 I was trying to install XCode 2.5 on a PowerMac G4 MDD running Tiger
 (10.4.11).  The software comes as a 1Gb disk image.  I mounted the disk image
 and double clicked on the package ICON. After double clicking on it nothing
 happens, no app appears in the dock.  I had just installed the software on a
 laptop and it worked without any problem.  I tried it on a G4 QS that had an
 old copy of the MDD's disk (I'd replaced the G4 QS with the MDD hence the
 copy) and it had the same problem.  I tried installing it from another
 account, same problem.
 
 Finally I checked the system log.  It showed a problem with libperl.dylib.  I
 tracked it down and found it inside /System/Library/Perl.  I replaced the
 whole Perl folder from yet another G4 QS with a fairly pristine 10.4.11
 install.  I could have just replaced the one library file but I figured I'd
 replaced all of it.  After copying it over I had to change the ownership and
 privileges.  
 
 This worked and XCode 2.5 installed successfully.
 
 The point of the story is that while the log (any log) does not say THE
 PROBLEM IS HERE - but it will often provide a hint of the problem.  This was
 a big deal for me as the next step would have been to do an Archive and
 Install of the OS.  Aside from all the hassle of re-installing various
 applications I have some cross-development software on it that might be hard
 to determine just what needs to be installed to get it back to where it was.
 
 
 Clark Martin
 Redwood City, CA, USA
 Macintosh / Internet Consulting
 
 I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway

An excellent adventure with a happy (dare I say, heroic?) ending. I
personally appreciate the information shared, though I may never find myself
in a like scenario. Thank you, Clark, for having the consideration to share.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Help - what does this mean?

[Dana Collins]

On 12/18/10 3:28 PM, Kris Tilford of ktilfo...@cox.net sent

 On Dec 18, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Ted Treen wrote:
 
 I have seen a similar splash screen, but when a Radeon 9800 was
 fitted, and its direct power lead (to the 9800, that is) wasn't
 connected.
 
 Yeah, this makes sense, the power lead is red, indicating a problem.
 That's pretty cool that the ATI card can override the boot and stop it
 until its power is correctly configured. I've got a 9800 but I've
 never seen this boot screen.

Yes to both Kris and Ted's response - with the help of some more description
from my daughter we traced it to a Molex extender cable that had faulted and
was over-heating. Card is fine, additional Molex cable is history. Splash
screen is kind of cool, but a little unnerving if its the first time you
see it and knew not to expect such a possibility. Oh, and the card is indeed
a 9800, not the 9500 I first posted.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Quick Silver issue

[Dana Collins]

On 12/15/10 11:48 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:

 
 On Dec 15, 2010, at 6:36 AM, Dana Collins wrote:
 
 Hi Daniel,
 No, this is one of the simplest arrangements I know for this unit - Mac,
 Apple kb, mouse and a 17 Viewsonic monitor.
 
 The only times I've ever had this issue it was a flaky USB device causing it.
 Do you possibly have another KB and Mouse to test it?
 
 Also look in the system log at the shutdown time (you can usually display more
 of the system log to see what happens through the shutdown and restart cycle)
 and see if anything weird seems to be happening (which is hard to tell if you
 don't knwo what's 'normal', I'll admit.)

Bruce,
You're right as rain on this (as always!). I had the mouse's cord (a little
too short to go around the monitor base) relaxed with with a Zio USB dongle
plugged into the keyboard - removed it, and all is well. Never had that
happen before, very odd.
Thanks Bruce, and thanks to all for your contributions.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Quick Silver issue

[Dana Collins]

On 12/15/10 1:36 AM, Daniel Stewart daniel.stewart...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you have the Quicksilver and another computer hooked up to a
 monitor via a KVM switch?  I had this exact same issue under Tiger
 with my 933 mhz Quicksilver 2002 when it was hooked it up to my
 Blueberry Apple Studio monitor along with a PC via a KVM switch.
 Stranger still was when I installed Leopard the issue disappeared.
 
 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Baldassare Guzzo guz...@gmail.com wrote:
 What monitor are you using?   Do you have anything plugged into the USB
 ports?
 
 On Dec 14, 2010, at 11:36 PM, DLC dlcatft...@frontier.com wrote:
 
 Hello gang,
 Happy to post a query that is not list-nanny issue related :-)
 
 I recently swapped for a G4 QuickSilver (800MHz DP/1.5Gb RAM, stock HD
 and video-NVidia Twinview).

 Thank you for any consideration/wisdom.
 Best regards,
 Dana
 
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Hi Daniel,
No, this is one of the simplest arrangements I know for this unit - Mac,
Apple kb, mouse and a 17 Viewsonic monitor. I do have one PCI card in it
(wireless G Airport card that worked in other G4s) which I will pull.
I also downloaded the 10.4.11 Combo Update as a disk image, ran that in
hopes of fixing *something*, but no avail. I'll also check Baldassare's
suggestion re: stuck button on the power board (the plastic façade button
appears fine).
Thank you for the thought,
Dana


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Re: List Mom request-sorry, again

[Dana Collins]

On 12/12/10 11:26 PM, Charles Lenington of macso...@brightok.net sent

 On 12/12/10 1:30 PM, DLC wrote:
 *sigh* Hi all,
 Sorry to be so thick about this, but I can't yet see how to get a hold
 of specific List moms for a specific group list (I can get to Dan, but
 how does one contact the specific list mom, or know who to reach?). I
 am having specific difficulties with the Swap list and know not who to
 reach.
 Thank you in advance, my apologies for having to post the problem via
 this group.
 Regards,
 Dana
 
 Have you tried going to the web page for the group? Also there is lemlists
 
 http://groups.google.com/group/lemlists?hl=en
 
 a discussion group for problems, etc on all LEM lists.
 

Hi Charles,
Thank you for chiming in, this link is good to know; I appreciate it.
I had not realized how (surprisingly) difficult it is to get a direct hail
to a list nanny! The issue is not yet resolved, but s-l-o-w-l-y progress is
being made. This link looks helpful indeed.
Regards,
Dana


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Re: List Mom request-sorry, again

[Dana Collins]

On 12/12/10 2:58 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
wrote:

 
 
 On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:30 PM, DLC dlcatft...@frontier.com wrote:
 *sigh* Hi all,
 Sorry to be so thick about this, but I can't yet see how to get a hold
 of specific List moms for a specific group list (I can get to Dan, but
 how does one contact the specific list mom, or know who to reach?). I
 am having specific difficulties with the Swap list and know not who to
 reach.
 Thank you in advance, my apologies for having to post the problem via
 this group.
 
 
 If all else fails post to the list with Nanny help needed or some-such tags
 in the subject line.
 
 It is hard to keep up with who manages which list and always has been. They
 announce themselves often and some go on to other things unannounced leaving
 the impression they are still active.  No coherent list exists except in the
 halls of LEM and they're not sharing. At least to my knowledge.
 
Hi Wallace,
Thanks for the response. I tried your advice and posted such a note on the
Swap list. Let¹s see what happens.
Thanks again,
Dana


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Re: Can I boot a quicksilver off an internal SCSI drive?

[Dana Collins]

On 12/1/10 8:43 PM, Deiniol ap Deiniol of autolycus.mercat...@googlemail.com
sent

 My latest Quicksilver is a 933 G4 with 1.5GB memory, running 10.4.11.
 I've installed  a 120GB first drive, along with another 120GB drive
 which was the Time Machine drive for the Leopard that came on its
 original 60 GB hard drive.
  I fancy transferring the SCSI card from my 733 QS along with its
 80GB  drive, with a view to either:
  installing Leopard on it,
 or putting a Linux on there.
 Is this feasible. I've done a quick Google without really getting
 anywhere, but on this list there are people who know this stuff!
 Dan (in ice-bound North Wales)


Hello Dan,
I don't know if you received a response yet to this query, but perhaps I can
share with you my experience to date. Afaik, as long as the issue involves
PCI-based New World Macs (from the G3 smurfs to the earlier MDDs) and an OS
no later than Tiger, booting off of a SCSI hosted drive is quite feasible,
providing the firmware of the card in question supports it. In my case, I
was always able to boot into OS X and OS 9 by using the Adaptec 2930CU/
card, which were OEM-provided for many a G3 unit that I worked on. The
similarly designed 2930B card was mountable under OS X, but any drive
attached to it was non-bootable (hence the CU vs. B designation was quite
important). I am pretty sure there are other SCSI host cards made that do
this (by Initio and Orange Micro), but I have not had experience with such.

I will not say that your projected goal is not compatible with this card
(i.e. Leopard, or Linux, or using a PCI-based G5), but I have no experiences
with such scenarios to be able to speak of. Hope this helps somewhat.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Unused, in box, mint 17 Studio Displays (2)

[Dana Collins]

On 11/28/10 1:19 AM, DARA macfan of daraguy...@yahoo.com sent

 I bought these in the transition days, when I had an early G4,
 thinking they would work with my next G4 that had ADC connector (or
 buy an adapter). However, I misjudged the whole thing and they never
 got set up.  I think these displays are the coolest ever, with clear
 acrylic cases - so I've just been hanging on to them. They are almost
 unusable just due to the need for ADC adapters. Since they are in
 original cartons they really take up a lot of space and I'm really
 wondering if there is any possible historical / uniqueness value. What
 suggestions, advice for selling or repurposing does anyone have?
 Thanks for your thoughts.
 
 -David


Give them to me, of course! :-D
Actually, as Wallace said, selling them on the LEM swap list would be one
logical idea (I'd take one!).
The inverse/alternative suggestion, depending on just how much you are
particularly in love with them, would be to snag an apropos G4 (like a DA
or QS) that would allow you to actually use one. The current price for a
nicely appointed QS is such that this solution is not that expensive.
Then make it your legacy machine.
Just my 2¢ worth.
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Re: How should a family of five share one computer?

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Well, hello Michael.
I have a few moments of from my turkey duty and discovered this nice
summary notice from you.
Thank you for your kind words and for sharing with me (in a prior post) some
cogent thoughts about your niece - with your permission, I'll continue
holding thoughts and prayers on her behalf.

I'm happy to say that the copy of iWorks I sent you ('08) is brand new still
in shrink wrap, unregistered, so that your niece can regard herself is *the*
lawful owner of the product (or you!). I do hope it helps a lot to your
cause.
My offer for a free copy of iLife 06 OR '08 (I have extra copies of those
too, as mentioned) still stands, so if and when things change and you feel
that the family is ready for it, give me a holler and I'll send one along.

A Happy Thanksgiving and Holiday season to you and yours.
Best regards,
Dana
(P.S. -  of him or her... him :-)


 
On 11/25/10 11:19 AM, Michael Emery of mem...@texas.net sent

 After hearing from several thoughtful members of this group, I have
 settled on some simple strategies for making my family of five safe
 from themselves and each other as far as communally operating one home
 computer system. A review of the reports and thanks are in order.
 
 First to respond was Bruce, who seems to read everything on this list
 and has an answer for everything. He recommended that guest accounts
 would go far in protecting operations, along with setting some
 parental controls for the kids in particular. Among responders, this
 was a popular suggestion.
 
 While I had stated that I'd give the admin account to the mom of the
 household, some folks suggested that I create another admin account
 for myself, just in case I ever needed to step in and save the bacon
 on the computer system. Felix went a step beyond and suggested that I
 alone maintain the secret of the password, not even bother to share it
 with the family, and effectively become the administrator of the
 computer system myself. I suspect that this is the route to take for
 right now; when someone in the household steps up and shows me that
 they are capable of handling stuff, I can set them up with admin
 powers. Jack reinforced this strategy with an off-list response,
 quoting his experience with his mother's computer.
 
 Geke suggested that I can remotely administer the computer via
 TeamViewer, but it's really too much money for me to pay. Someone else
 with very deep pockets, it might be fine.
 
 Another off-list response came from Eric, who told me that he provides
 helpful how-to documents when he gives computers to new users, and
 sent me examples of those by attachment. I cannot guarantee my users
 will read them, but it sounds like a very good way to proceed.
 
 Tina recommended setting a firmware password. That sounds like it
 would be overkill in my target situation, but it's a very strong
 security precaution that might work well for me at my own workplace
 computer.
 
 And last, Dana contacted me off-line to tell me that he or she
 condones giving computers away to underprivileged families, and makes
 a routine out of this. Dana mentioned that a family member of him or
 her came up through some hard times, and felt some sympathy for my
 cause. Going beyond the box, Dana offered me some additional, free
 software to make computer life better for my clan-in-law! I would like
 to extend a special thank-you to Dana. :-D
 
 On Thanksgiving Day, I would like to thank everybody who gave my query
 their consideration and time. I hope that you give your families your
 love and attention today as well.
 
 -- 
 Michael Emery
 http://memery.home.texas.net/
 
 There is no bad music, only bad performances.
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Re: How should a family of five share one computer?

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On 11/25/10 12:52 PM, Dana Collins of dlcatft...@frontier.com sent

 Well, hello Michael.
 I have a few moments of from my turkey duty and discovered this nice
 summary notice from you.
Etc...

Colleagues.
This was meant to go directly to Michael, and I obviously goofed.
My profound apologies to all, though the holiday blessing can be mutually
received.

Sheepishly yours,
Dana



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Re: G5 Shutdown issues

[Dana Collins]

On 11/8/10 12:52 AM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote:

 
 On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:49 PM, DLC wrote:
 
 Greetings all,
 I have two G5 towers in our lab (1.8GHz DP-late 2004 models) running
 10.5.8. They have both suddenly acquired the habit of not wanting to
 shut down. When instructed, the Desktop dismounts, the Dock folds
 down and then they just sit there. A force shutdown is what needs to
 be done at that moment. All other operations are fine.
 I've zapped PRAM and NVRAM, booted single-user, and restored disk
 permissions.
 I've looked on the Apple support site for related articles with no
 success; perhaps someone knows of one that addresses this issue? Yes,
 there is one PCI card in each unit (USB expansion card), but they've
 been there for a couple years with no issues.
 Thanks for any thoughts or possible solutions.
 
 
 I haven't had any persistent problem like this but occasionally I've had a
 shutdown / restart command have trouble.  I usually login to the shell using
 ssh from another computer and look at the active processes.  I look for
 application processes first as they should have quit.  If I can't quit it from
 the GUI then I kill it using the shell.  Then I start looking for other
 processes that might be holding things up.
 
 If all else fails I use the shell shutdown command.

Thank you for the respkinse, Clark.
Iirc, the shutdown command is:
sudo shutdown -h now

Yes?

Regards,
Dana



 
 While the above process is aimed at restarting / shutting down the computer it
 can also help to determine the cause of hangs like this.
 
 Clark Martin
 Redwood City, CA, USA
 Macintosh / Internet Consulting
 
 I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway


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Re: G5 Shutdown issues

[Dana Collins]

On 11/8/10 1:35 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:

 I'd try doing a Safe Boot to reset the System cache files, and see if
 that helps?
 
 Are the PRAM batteries good? To check the PRAM batteries without
 disassembly you can turn off Airport or unplug any network connection
 (assuming you've got your Time  Date preference set to automatically
 set the correct time  date from a network connection), and then
 Shutdown the Mac and unplug that power cable from the wall. Then
 reboot and if the time  date are wrong the PRAM battery is dead and
 needs replacement.
Thank you for the response, Kris. I thought of the batteries after posting;
regardless of their present condition, they ARE the OEM units: I will be
replacing them regardless - but I'll give your test a try.
Thanks again.
Dana


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Re: G5 Shutdown issues

[Dana Collins]

On 11/8/10 2:32 AM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2010/11/07 19:49, DLC so eloquently wrote:
 I have two G5 towers in our lab (1.8GHz DP-late 2004 models) running
 10.5.8. They have both suddenly acquired the habit of not wanting to
 shut down. When instructed, the Desktop dismounts, the Dock folds
 down and then they just sit there. A force shutdown is what needs to
 be done at that moment.
 
 My PM developed a similar problem when I up, er, sidegraded from Tiger
 to Leopard. It seemed to get better when I uninstalled USB Overdrive but
 it still happens from time to time and I have no idea why. But at least
 you're not the only one. :-)
 
 Tina

Good to know! :-)
Regards,
Dana


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Re: G5 Shutdown issues

[Dana Collins]

On 11/8/10 8:14 AM, Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com wrote:

 From: Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com
 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, 8 November, 2010 7:32:38
 Subject: Re: G5 Shutdown issues
 
 On 2010/11/07 19:49, DLC so eloquently wrote:
  I have two G5 towers in our lab (1.8GHz DP-late 2004 models) running
  10.5.8. They have both suddenly acquired the habit of not wanting to
  shut down. When instructed, the Desktop dismounts, the Dock folds
  down and then they just sit there. A force shutdown is what needs to
  be done at that moment.
 
 My PM developed a similar problem when I up, er, sidegraded from Tiger to
 Leopard. It seemed to get better when I uninstalled USB Overdrive but it still
 happens from time to time and I have no idea why. But at least you're not the
 only one. :-)
 
 Tina
 
 
 My G5 dual2.0 would occasionally do this:- I ran Onyx, cleared all temp 
 cache files (and I mean ALL) and problem went away...
 
 Ted

I¹ll give it a shot. Thank you for the tip, Ted.
Best regards,
Dana

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Re: Just purchased used g5 mac

[Dana Collins]

On 10/20/10 3:51 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:

 On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Dana Collins wrote:
 
 Our only problem with it was that it has PCI-X slots and some of the
 music components had PCI cards that were not flexible enough to be
 accommodated by the PCI-X slots.
 
 I thought the PCI-X slots were 100% backwards compatible with older
 PCI cards?
 
 The Wikipedia entry seems to indicate backwards compatibility, and my
 standard PCI cards work fine in my G5 with PCI-X.

Hi Kris,
Generally I would agree, PCI-X is supposed to be backward compatible. I had
several experiences with M-Audio, U-Art, and a couple generic USB adapter
cards that unfortunately proved otherwise (the standard PCI design did not
fit, and offered no slot alignment)- just our dumb luck, I would say, to
have the few models that were the exception to the rule.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Just purchased used g5 mac

[Dana Collins]

On 10/19/10 9:18 AM, Ted Treen of ted.tr...@btinternet.com sent

 From: R 2 gpride1...@gmail.com
 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, 19 October, 2010 4:57:07
 Subject: Just purchased used g5 mac
 
 Hello all-
 I just bought a used g 5 mac!  It has Leopard os, lists as 7.3? (what's this
 mean) with 2 GB Ram and dual ppcs at 2.0 Ghz. Also,2 HDDs with 250 GB each. Is
 this a good machine-reliable?  Any known issues besides capacitors on
 motherboard? Seems reasonably fast even by today's standards, but what
 improvements would be best. Has no OS disk-should I purchase Leopard or Tiger
 disks. Got it cheap and love the aluminum, full tower case, but it's a beast
 to lift. Please educate about this neat mac.
 Previous macs:mac mini, mac book, emac, imac and adored them all!
  
 Thanks!  Love the macs!
 Lambert Z
 
 
 
 Nice Mac. I have an early 2005 dual 2.0, which I've only just let best-beloved
 have, as I bought an ex-demo 2009 MacPro - only bought as it is essential that
 I run CS5.
 
 The G5 could do with more memory, and it will run Leopard sweetly. Mine has
 10.5.8 - no problems.
 
 See it's full specs at everymac.com
 http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/stats/powermac_g5_2.0_dp_2.
 html 
 
 The biggest bugbear (IMHO) with G5 Macs is the possibility of leakage in
 liquid-cooled Macs - don't worry, yours isn't liquid-cooled.
 
 Unless you suddenly develop an urgent need to run the latest versions of
 commercial software (e.g. Adobe Creative Suite) your G5 will keep you happy
 for quite some time.
 
 Enjoy.
 
 Ted
 
Hello Lambert,
I agree with Ted ­ we have a late 2004 2Ghz/DP G5 Mac ­ has been serving as
a fileserver for our lab for 2 years straight, after it gave us 4 years as a
music production unit, rarely missed a beat. Our only problem with it was
that it has PCI-X slots and some of the music components had PCI cards that
were not flexible enough to be accommodated by the PCI-X slots. Other than
that, it has been super fine. I believe the unit can take 8 Gb of RAM ­ be
sure to buy your RAM in pairs, as the slots need to be upgraded thusly (one
RAM module for bank A and one for the lateral slot in bank B); can¹t do a
³one-at-a-time² routine like you could with the G3s and G4s.
HTH,
Dana

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Re: iTunes De-authorize issue on a G5

[Dana Collins]

On 10/17/10 8:15 PM, Tina K. of penguir...@gmail.com sent

 On 2010/10/17 15:26, DLC so eloquently wrote:
 Does anyone know how to de-authorize only one computer (out of the 5-
 station quota) on an iTunes account? My wife reached her limit with a
 new netbook a while ago - I bumped up her home office with a new (to
 her) G5, which needs authorizing. So far, the only options I can find
 are to tolerate the present state, or de-authorize all 5
 stations in one fell swoop (which means all prior purchase records are
 lost-not good).
 
 The last I knew de-authorization was an all or nothing affair. What do
 you mean by lose your past purchase records? If you mean authorization
 for DRM protected files iTunes will ask you to enter name  password
 when you play them.
 
 Tina

Hi Tina,
Thanks for responding. We're concerned that de-authorization will wipe out
the data that's been purchased. I'm of the opinion that de-authorizing (all
5) then re-authorizing your new Macs should not have a bearing on the data,
but the Mrs. Isn't so sure, and, yeah, it is her stuff!

Any clarification would be most appreciated.
Thank you,
Dana


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Re: iTunes De-authorize issue on a G5

[Dana Collins]

On 10/17/10 8:41 PM, Ashgrove of salum...@gmail.com sent

 On Oct 17, 5:26 pm, DLC dlcatft...@frontier.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 Does anyone know how to de-authorize only one computer (out of the 5-
 station quota) on an iTunes account? My wife reached her limit with a
 new netbook a while ago - I bumped up her home office with a new (to
 her) G5, which needs authorizing. So far, the only options I can find
 are to tolerate the present state, or de-authorize all 5
 stations in one fell swoop (which means all prior purchase records are
 lost-not good).
 
 Dana,
 
 No, you can still authorize or deauthorize computers individually.
 Open iTunes on the computer you want to deauthorize, go to the
 Advanced Menu, and then Deauthorize Audible Account. It will ask for
 your iTunes account handle and password, and you will be all set.
 
 And no, even if you deauthorize all computers from your iTunes
 account, and start from scratch, no purchase will be lost, ever --
 unless you delete all your HDDs or something. Even then, it is
 possible that you could download again your purchases.
 
 I am sure that some of the stations being tagged are previous older
 Macs that did not get de-authorized.
 
 I had to deauthorize all my computers once for similar reasons. Rest
 assured that nothing will happen to your media. The process here would
 be similar, but in reverse: go to your account, deauthorize all
 computers, and then authorize one by one using the Advanced menu
 option in iTunes.
 
 HTH,
 
 Felix


Thank you for the response, Felix. It is good to know - so appreciate it!
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: How to burn VIDEO_TS

[Dana Collins]

On 10/11/10 5:20 PM, Ted Treen of ted.tr...@btinternet.com sent

 Brian Fuelleman wrote:
 Is there a way to adjust the volume on files prior to burning them to DVD?
 I have some old VHS recordings of some classes/lessons I would like to
 convert to DVD, but the audio level in the original is quite low.
  Roxio's conversion setup says that you can not alter the sound
 levels, but recording stuff where it will be a major strain to pick up
 the audio every time I wish to view these disks seems to be a
 ridiculous choice with todays technology.
 Is there a better way to go than with Roxio's software and hardware?
 I want to create DVD's that I can play on any DVD player or
 computer/platform (that has a DVD player).
 I have Toast 10 platinum on my G5, but I also have a couple of Quick
 silvers and a few older and smaller Mac's too.
 
 My first thought would be to convert the video to mp4, then load it into
 iMovie. I've hardly used iMovie, but I think it should allow you to
 tweak the volume level, then burn a generic video with iDVD.
 
 I'll look into it when I have a spare bit of time  report back.
 
 You'll probably see lots of definitive replies in the meantime, though.
 
 Ted
 
I too would be interested, Ted.
Thank you,
Dana


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Re: iWork/iLife on MDD?

[Dana Collins]

On 10/10/10 10:12 PM, The M of mstye...@yahoo.com sent

 I currently have a MDD with 512 RAM, Mac OS X 10.4, and a 867Mhz processor. I
 plan to upgrade to Mac OS X 10.5, 1GB of RAM (possibly more in the distant
 future) and a 1.25Ghz processor. How will iWork and iLife '09 run on both
 configurations?
 
 Thanks 
 
 -The M
 
 There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary
 and those who don't


Hello M
iWork '09 will work just fine in its entirety. iLife '09 is a bit of a
different story.
Here's what will work:
iTunes (of course), iPhoto, iWeb, Garage Band, to a certain degree (the
real-time learning lessons are Intel-only), and iDVD.
iMovie will NOT work, as it requires a G5/2.0GHz CPU or better (including
Intel). I was able to get iMovie '08 to run on a 1.8GHz DP G5 (having the
same sys requirements as '09), but have not tried '09 on the same machine.
Besides, when you run the iLife '09 installer, it will tell you that it will
not install iMovie, as your MDD would not meet these system particulars.

Several folks I know have preferred sticking with iMovie HD (from iLife '06)
as the preferred iMovie choice, and it will run just fine with the rest of
iLife '09. If you go that route, install the '06 components first, then do a
blanket install of '09 (the iDVD templates will be updated that way,
instead of being duplicated. Apparently iMovie 06 had some nice effect
accoutrements that were yanked with iMovie 08 (I never tried '06, but I
heard a lot of web chatter where many were complaining about the loss of
these tools).

Hope this helps,
Dana
  


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Re: How to burn VIDEO_TS

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On 10/10/10 8:21 PM, Arnel Tuazon of a.tua...@gmail.com sent

 On 10/10/10 10:34 AM, M Christol chris...@fuse.net wrote:
 
   I downloaded a VIDEO_TS and cannot get it to DVD.
 Tried Disk Utility
 tried hdiutil makehybrid -udf-volume-name NAME -o ~/Desktop/name.iso
 ~/Desktop
 Apple DVD Player will launch but not play disk both ways. Sony DVD
 player says it's unsupported both ways.
 The VOB files play in VLC on Mac but not Fedora Core
 Any ideas?
 I have ffmpegx  iDVD. I guess I could convert everything to .movs,
 string 'em together  use iDVD.
 
 thanks
 
 I use Toast (v.6 - it's old but works great!).
 
 step1: Create a new folder and name it whatever you want
 
 step2: place your VIDEO_TS folder in this new folder
 
 step3: if you want audio, you'll need to create another folder inside the
 folder you created in step1.  Name this new folder AUDIO_TS.
 
 Just a re-cap, you will create a new folder and name it whatever you want.
 In this folder you'll have 2 folders: your VIDEO_TS folder and an empty
 folder called AUDIO_TS.
 
 step4: start Toast and choose DATA.  Make sure you're in ADVANCE mode and
 choose type DVD-ROM (UDF) from the left side pannel
 
 step5: drag your folder that has both the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folder onto
 the main window of Toast (it should say Drag files and folders into this
 area).
 
 step6: click the red burn button and follow the rest of the instructions on
 the screen.
 

Arnel,
As succinct and clear a summary of Toast procedure as I've ever seen.
Bravo!
Dana


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Re: MIDI

[Dana Collins]

On 10/6/10 8:39 PM, Illirik Smirnov illir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Simple question: Do any powermacs that are capable of running Audacity have
 MIDI ports? I would splurge and get $10 for a connector for my G5, but I have
 access to pretty much every model of PMac if I ask nicely enough.
 
 
Hello Illirik,
If by MIDI ports you mean the standard 5-pin 2-port I/O arrangement, then
no. If, however, you include a simple break-out arrangement where the MIDI
I/O is connected to the Mac via USB, then the answer is yes. If you also
include the myriad of simple MIDI- input controllers that connect directly
via USB (w/ no need of the 2-port I/O), then the answer is YES. Many of
these, like the M-Audio MIDIport, offer a simple 1x1 MIDI connection with no
need of drivers.
Hope this helps,
Dana


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Re: I need help, connecting a extra HD to my G3 B W

[Dana Collins]

On 8/16/10 12:07 AM, Robert Long texasche...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hello group, I am trying to add an additional HD to my G3.  Here is the info I
 copied from my machine.
 
 My G 3 is a blue and the info on it is; CD rom and ATA hard drive, PCI slot
 $J12 display card,
 4 MB disk cache. Virtual memory; 129 MB, Built in Memory 128 MB, backside L2
 cache 512 K cache, Machine speed is 300 MHz, processor  info  PowerPC G3. It
 connects to  internet via ethernet cable. It is not wifi capable yet and I
 want to up the memory and add a DVD drive and any other recommendations you
 wish to make. So if you have any info you don't mind sharing, let it fly.
 I observed that the connection from the HD to the MB are female and there is
 one spare connection. Can I connect another HD and what type of cable or
 connection do I need?  I have been given sever HDs, 20 gb and 40 gb.  I don't
 know at this point if they are any good yet.  If I get the right cable or
 connection I will try them and use it.
 
 thanks in advance
 
 Robert Long
 
Hello Robert,

To learn more about which Power Mac G3 (B+W, nicknamed ³Smurf²) you have, go
here:
http://lowendmac.com/ppc/blue-white-power-mac-g3.html
And here:
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G3-ZONE/yosemite/newfeatures.html
And here:
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g3/stats/powermac_g3_300_bl.h
tml

This will be important when addressing your desire to add a second HD to
your system. Rev. 1 G3s cannot address two HDs on the primary ATA bus, Rev.
2 G3s can. Check to see which revision your motherboard is. You say there¹s
a ³spare connection² to the motherboard regarding the HD. Do you mean there
is a second plug-in connector on the HD data cable? If so, and presuming
your cable is OEM, that is a good sign. Look also at the hard drive
bracket/sled that the present hard drive is attached to: it should have
sides that rise above the hard drive, allowing you to attach a stacked 2nd
HD above it. If all is well with the 2nd rev. issue, your original HD will
be on the bottom, serving as ³Master² and your top drive will be the ³slave²
(as always, master drive is attached to the end of the cable, slave drive is
plugged into the middle socket-set jumpers on each drive accordingly).
RAM is PC-100. Highest amount per stick is 256Mb (low density, iirc), x4 =
maximum total of 1 Gb of memory. Presuming you want some flavor of OS X, max
out the RAM, which is cheap enough and worth the performance. (BTW, if you
do this, and switch to OS X, then virtual memory will be a moot point. That
you mentioned it tells me you¹ve got OS 9 or earlier on this machine).
Your CD drive can be easily replaced with any compatible DVD-RW drive with
little if any concern for drivers, etc.
If you are in OS-X (10.4.11 is as high as you can go, which is good for this
germane point), WI-FI is easily obtained via adding a PCI wireless adapter
card; as long as it has the Broad COM chipset, Airport will recognize the
card as Airport-compatible.
The last challenge will be your video card, which will have to be PCI-based;
an ATI Radeon 32Mb of various flavors (Mac Ed., Radeon 7000, 7500, et.al.)
will be what to look for.

Try to get as many of these items at our LEM swap list; here you¹ll find
enough savvy sellers who can help you make sure you are getting the right
items  for your project. Keep costs as low as possible, otherwise what
you¹ll spend will easily outpace the worth of the project (short of doing it
for the love of a surprisingly still-viable Mac unit).
Best wishes,
Dana 


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Re: Do G5s sleep?

[Dana Collins]

On 8/13/10 3:37 PM, Bequette Jeff of jbeque...@tconl.com sent

 
 On Aug 12, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Dana Collins wrote:
 
 On 8/12/10 11:46 AM, Bequette Jeff of jbeque...@tconl.com sent
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2010, at 4:24 PM, DLC wrote:
 
 Greetings all,
 I was able to move a spare G5 (1.8GHz, DP) from my school office to
 home studio. At the office, sleep on the unit was not a luxury;
 now at
 home it would be a nice feature. The G5 does not sleep; when I
 manually put it to sleep, it goes through the motions to the point
 of
 shitting down the monitor projection, then immediately wakes up
 again.
 The OS is 10.5.8, btw.
 Is this a common issue with G5s? Any particular preferences to trash
 to reset the Energy System Preference?
 Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
 Best regards,
 Dana
 
 
 Must be in your settings.  My DP 1.8 G5 does sleep.   OS 10.5.8
 
 Thanks for responding, Jeff. So... What are your settings?
 -Dana
 
 
 
 Sorry, missed your reply yesterday.
 
 Under Energy Saver, Sleep, Put the computer/the displays to sleep when
 inactive for 1 tic less than 15 minutes.
 
 Screen saver, random iphoto starts at 4 minutes
 
 
 
Hi Jeff,
Thank you for the info. I will try this as well.
Regards,
Dana


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Re: Do G5s sleep?

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On 8/12/10 11:46 AM, Bequette Jeff of jbeque...@tconl.com sent

 
 On Aug 10, 2010, at 4:24 PM, DLC wrote:
 
 Greetings all,
 I was able to move a spare G5 (1.8GHz, DP) from my school office to
 home studio. At the office, sleep on the unit was not a luxury; now at
 home it would be a nice feature. The G5 does not sleep; when I
 manually put it to sleep, it goes through the motions to the point of
 shitting down the monitor projection, then immediately wakes up again.
 The OS is 10.5.8, btw.
 Is this a common issue with G5s? Any particular preferences to trash
 to reset the Energy System Preference?
 Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
 Best regards,
 Dana
 
 
 Must be in your settings.  My DP 1.8 G5 does sleep.   OS 10.5.8

Thanks for responding, Jeff. So... What are your settings?
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Re: Do G5s sleep?

[Dana Collins]

On 8/12/10 12:13 PM, john CARMONNE of carmo...@aol.com sent

 
 On Aug 12, 2010, at 8:46 AM, Bequette Jeff wrote:
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2010, at 4:24 PM, DLC wrote:
 
 Greetings all,
 I was able to move a spare G5 (1.8GHz, DP) from my school office to
 home studio. At the office, sleep on the unit was not a luxury;
 now at
 home it would be a nice feature. The G5 does not sleep; when I
 manually put it to sleep, it goes through the motions to the point of
 shitting down the monitor projection, then immediately wakes up
 again.
 The OS is 10.5.8, btw.
 Is this a common issue with G5s? Any particular preferences to trash
 to reset the Energy System Preference?
 Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
 Best regards,
 Dana
 
 My G5 DP 2.7 sleeps, otherwise I couldn't afford the electric bill
 with the two pumps.LOL
 I would CCC the drive then reinstall and archive the system to see if
 that's the promlem if not
 then you've lost nothing.
 I've had little issues like these with 10.5 on PPC's where on the
 Inel's all's fine. But that's just me.
 
 John Carmonne

Hi John,
My experience reflects yours - the Intels our dept. owns sleep fine - the
PPCs (so far as I know by experience) do not. I'll check my 2.3GHz DC to see
if it does - so far, my 1.8GHz DP, like Tvir's, does not.
Best regards,
Dana
 


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Re: Do G5s sleep?

[Dana Collins]

On 8/12/10 12:08 PM, Michael Emery of mem...@texas.net sent

 I recently had a similar problem with a recent Mac arriving in my
 household. One of our list brethren, Al Poulin, sent me to a website
 that walked me a short distance down a list of things to do, which
 worked for me:
 
  And for The Insomniac Mac, look here:
  http://www.macworld.com/article/48345/2005/12/nonightnight.html
 
 Otherwise you might google something like this:
 
  http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.5/en/9040.html
 
 Good luck!

Hi Michael,
Thanks much for these links - they are very helpful and, at least at this
point, offer some good direction towards a solution.
Thanks again,
Dana


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Re: G5 Question

[Dana Collins]

On 8/4/10 6:20 PM, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote:

 On Aug 3, 6:10 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote:
  I presume that this  Expansion Slot Utility is an app found in the
 Utilities folder? Out of curiosity, is this utility installed on the Mac
 Pros as well?
 
 It is on my MacPro running 10.6, now that you mention it I don't think
 the utility is on PPC versions of Leopard. It opened the first time I
 move a PCI card to a different slot. In Snow Leopard it is in System
 \Library\Core Services.

Thank you for this info., dc. I'll look for it on our new Mac Pro when it
arrives. 
Regards,
Dana


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Re: Install script for fresh OS install?

[Dana Collins]

On 8/3/10 2:29 AM, Kris Tilford of ktilfo...@cox.net sent

 On Aug 3, 2010, at 12:11 AM, Dana Collins wrote:
 
 Ah, I think THIS was what I was thinking of:
 
 http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2009072008431183
 
 And this:
 
 http://ksbarnt.com/Clean_Install_App/Clean_Install_App.html
 
 It's admirable when people solve their own problems, but this is a
 solution in search of a problem in my opinion.
 
 I'd ask the new ~user what short name they wanted for their Home
 folder, assuming they'd want their real name as the long name, and
 leave the password blank by hitting the Return key in the password
 field, and then tell the new ~user to boot the install DVD and use the
 Change Password from the menu bar.
 
 For a little eye-candy and a song, you're creating make-work for the
 new ~user, and perhaps more work for yourself if they need guidance
 for the setup. I'd bet the average new ~user ends up with a short name
 Home folder with the silly default firstlast name because they won't
 realize that there's no relationship between the long name  short
 name and that both can be anything they wish rather than the suggested
 default names.

Thanks, Kris - point taken. Normally I find out what the new user wants and
leave it at that, however this time I was running the risk of not being
able to interface with the owner, and wanted to give them this option after
I had installed all updates and additional software. Fortunately, the owner
chimed in, and all's well. Still, a pretty nifty AppleScript for future use.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: G5 Question

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On 8/3/10 4:02 PM, dc of dbc...@verizon.net sent

 On Aug 2, 10:30 pm, DLC dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote:
 My main question is: which slot of the three is the 8-lane slot? I
 suspect its the one closest to the CPU, is that correct?
 
 Correct, the bottom slot, the one closest to the CPU. Open up the
 Expansion Slot Utility program and you will see some configuration
 options.

Thanks, DC for the info (and you too Eric) - I've never had a G5 w/PCI-E
slots so I did not know what to look for. Nor have I even yet booted it up.
So, I presume that this  Expansion Slot Utility is an app found in the
Utilities folder? Out of curiosity, is this utility installed on the Mac
Pros as well?
Thanks much,
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Re: Install script for fresh OS install?

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 On Aug 2, 10:38 pm, DLC dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote:
 Greetings all,
 I hope my description is accurate to the point that it rings a bell. I
 do remember this being briefly chatted up on this list, but I can't
 come up with the correct syntax to register a winning query. Here
 goes:
 etc
 
 I seem to recall a little utility script that one runs to make this
 so, or a start-up preference that needs deleting.
 Does this make sense, or ring a bell with anyone? If so, let me know.
 
 Thanks in advance for any input.
 Best regards,
 Dana

On 8/2/10 11:58 PM, JoeTaxpayer of joetaxpaye...@gmail.com sent

 That will happen on its own, with a new install. I just did some drive
 swaps, and wanted to made a new one the main OS drive, so I started
 from scratch. Big welcome screen and all.
 
Hi Joe,
Thanks for the response. Yes, I know that, a fresh install provides the
welcome procedure.
I just wanted the new user to experience the same thing after I had finished
with the updates. Maybe not..?
Thanks again,
Dana


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Re: G5 iMac

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On 6/29/10 6:59 PM, Mark Sokolovsky of coolmar...@gmail.com sent

 5 blue LED fans and a hydrogen cooled system is in there =)

Ohhh, BLUE LED lights, well, no wonder :-)

Dana


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Re: I need networking help

[Dana Collins]

On 6/28/10 1:31 AM, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Whoa! Hold on a second! I am running happily with Leopard on my PM G4
 Sawtooth, but you're thinking about putting leopard on a G3! That is the last
 thing I would do right now, but the first thing I would try if I am simply
 done with my G3 iMac. with some mods, would Leopard run on (let's say...) on
 a
 
 iMac G3 @600Mhz PowerPC G3
 1GB RAM
 Mac OS X 10.4.11
 Firewire built-in
 40GB HDD
 
 I want to have another computer that can run Leopard comfortably like my
 sawtooth, and not to run it on a machine that barely breathes under Tiger's
 higher end video card standards.

Hi Mark,
This is an easy one. Leopard does not run on a G3 CPU... period.
Regards,
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Re: G4 Modem question

[Dana Collins]

On 6/23/10 11:59 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:

 
 On Jun 22, 2010, at 6:49 PM, DLC wrote:
 
 Greetings all,
 A quick question, please. My elderly friend still connects to the web
 via dial-up. I give him a new (to him) G4/600MHz and internal modem
 running Tiger on it.
 He's asked me to come over and help him with his connections to
 Localnet. Presuming that something in Network settings my be screwed
 up, and I want to start completely from scratch, what preferences and/
 or user settings do I trash?
 
 In the /Library/Preferences folder trash anything that says network in it. I
 forget what they are in 10.4, but in 10.6 it's:
 
 com.apple.networkConfig.plist
 SystemConfiguration/NetworkInterfaces.plist
 
 

Thanks for the response, Bruce.
I'll give that a shot-up front, those files makes sense. They're the same
name in Tiger, BTW.
Regards,
Dana


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Re: Memory compatibility with G5

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On 6/10/10 10:18 PM, Illirik Smirnov of illir...@gmail.com sent

 I have a 1600MHz single-core G5 that come from the factory with 2X512MB of
 memory. I added a matching pair of 1GB sticks (PC3200), and the G5 won't turn
 on. A red light turns on, near the front of the case. If the PC3200 isn't
 compatible, which speed should I use? When I take the RAM out, it works
 again... what should I do?
 Illirik Smirnov

Hello Illirik,
I have this same G5. The native RAM is actually PC2700, though 3200 should
work.
Your description sounds like a classic bad RAM issue. When you say won't
turn on do you mean won't boot (current is noticeable, since you have a red
light), or do you mean absolutely nothing? I suspect the former.
Here are some quoted symptoms from Apple re: you're issue:

No power (LED on/off, no fans, no boot tone, no video)
1. Check power supply cables
2. Check logic board power rails
3. Check processor connector
4. Check logic board tape for dual config
5. Replace power supply
6. Replace processor
7. Replace logic board

No boot (LED on/off, fans spin, no boot tone, no video)
1. Replace memory
2. Replace logic board

Memory (blinking LED, fans spin, no boot tone, no video)
1. Check memory config and replace DIMMs
2. Replace logic board
No boot tone (LED on, fans spin, no boot tone, video) or
No video (LED on, fans spin, boot tone, no video)
1. Reseat video card
2. Replace video card
3. Replace front panel board cable
4. Replace speaker
5. Replace front panel board
6. Replace logic board

The second entry is, I think, your concern, with replace memory as #1 fix.
Contact your vendor and ask for a replacement for the two sticks of RAM.
HTH,
Dana


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Re: Slashdot News Story | Google Reportedly Ditching Windows

[Dana Collins]

On 6/1/10 6:04 AM, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
 
 
 On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Vic Mabus vma...@gmail.com
 mailto:vma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/06/01/011203/Google-Reportedly-Ditching-Win
 dows?from=rss
 
 
 by rolfwind (528248) http://slashdot.org/%7Erolfwind on Monday
 May 31, @09:24PM (#32413200
 http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1670694cid=32413200)
 
 Macs are only more susceptible to spearfishing because the
 monitor and body are one. Ram a spear through that and the whole
 machine is gone. With most windows machines, spearfishers go for
 the bright monitor but since the real guts of the machine is in
 a seperate body, it just requires replacing an ever-cheaper monitor.
 
 Great!  One more thing to worry about...
 
 writes:
 
 __
 
 
 WTF !
 
 I think someone is trying to make a joke.  I, myself, don't get it.
 peace, Dennis


Yes, a joke. The actual spear-fishing article's link was embedded in one of
the Google-ditches-MS post, which lead to a tech article talking about a
Utube vid showing some Russian techie testing his Asus LS201 monitor by
shooting a couple of crossbow arrows at it - surprisingly, the monitor
survived. Would the iMac do the same? Well, I won't try it :-)
Sort of a hijacked thread.
Have a good day,
Dana


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Re: 933 mhz G4 Quicksilver Powermac OS Linux or OS X?

[Dana Collins]

On 6/1/10 11:02 AM, lana mlitwin3...@att.net wrote:

 I too love the Quick Silver but have one caveat.We lost power three times in
 one hour. I am told the power supply went. I found one for $20 on ebay  but
 now have to pay $25 to put it in.This is apparently a problem with some
 quicksilvers? I really like the machine and so think the repair is worth it.

Am curious as to why the charge, outside of labor for hire. Power supplies
on these units (the QS) are no harder than earlier models; in fact the QS is
the last model where the PSU (power supply) is fairly easy to replace
(unlike the MDDs and beyond). Instructions are easy to find online
(try this: 
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/Repairing-Power-Mac-G4-Quicksilver-Power-
Supply/2053/1  )

If you've never done this, and are simply more comfortable having an
experienced other performing the task for assurance sake, then that's
understandable - Quicksilvers are worth it!
Best regards,
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Re: speakers,speakers,speakers...

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On 4/21/10 10:13 AM, Jeffrey Engle of macgu...@gmail.com sent

 I have a G5 in the office, and I need audio and video in two places (in my
 case the living room on the other side of the wall and my office) all I need
 to do here is go through the wall in my office and I'm within easy access of
 monitor  speakers out there. The video is the easy part, the audio however is
 another story 2 sets of powered bookshelf speakers and 2 powered
 subwoofers. it would be cool to be wireless, but Airtunes only does itunes
 Audio only... a no-go situation there. and with the exception of using a
 stupid amount of Y cables, I'm stumped. any ideas? Jeff
 
 
 Jeff Engle
 Kamiah, Idaho 83536


Hello Jeff,
A little more info. Please ­ how are the speakers with subs connected?
Discrete (individual) wiring, or interlink routing? Is your goal to have
both three-way systems broadcast simultaneously or A - B?
Thanks
Dana

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Re: Printer Woes - What do I trash?

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On 4/8/10 6:02 PM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent

 On Apr 8, 2010, at 1:17 PM, DLC wrote:
 
 Greetings all.
 A little assistance would be appreciated.
 I have an office G5 running 10.5.8; attached via USB is the printer,
 an HP Laser Jet P1505n.
 Recently, the printer suddenly decided to NOT print but instead send
 all requests to an ever-increasing queue list, with no intention of
 ever printing them (pause-resume-delete items proved fruitless)
 After deleting this list, I deleted the printer as a default printer
 and re-loaded it; no go. Re-installing drivers did not help either.
 I am now at the place where, if I select it as a recognized option for
 adding it to my personal list of printers in the Print and Fax
 preference, I get the following error message:
 An error occurred while trying to add the selected printer.
  successful-ok-conflicting-attributes
 
 I believe I am at the point where I need to throw away *everything*
 related to the printer, compelling the Mac to completely forget that
 the printer ever existed, so to speak.
 What do I throw away?
 
 Delete the printer in System Prefs.
 
 go to:
 
 /Library/Printers/
 
 You probably have a folder named 'hp', go looking for a folder in the
 laserjet subfolder with that model  printer.
 
 Trash it with extreme prejudice.
 
 Go into the PPDs folder, find the ppd associated with the HP, and
 delete it.
 
 This is one of HP's icky host-based printers, so there might be cruft
 in /Library/Printers/PPD Plugins folder associated with it, too.
 
 This, in theory should completely suppress your computer's memories of
 that awful printer.
 
 (Can you tell I've got a mild dislike of the 1500 series? 8-)

Greetings, Bruce.
Thank you for the replay and instructions.
I would agree with your assessment of the 1500's.
Most of the indicated folders you mentioned weren't in the system, even
after I ran a fresh install of HP's designated driver - wonder what's up
with that? I think in the end I am going to swap this unit out for the 1120
that's attached to my office's PC station - both printers are compliments of
our IT - thanks, IT! :-P
Thanks (genuine) Bruce.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Best wireless adapter for OS 9

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On 4/5/10 2:35 PM, Thomas Chen of thochen2...@yahoo.com sent

 I have a Pismo (upgraded to G4/550) and BW (upgraded to G4/600)
 running both OS 9.2.2 and 10.4.11 just fine. Any recommendations for
 the best wireless adapter for each? Here are my limitations:
 
 1) Want to have capability for WPA
 2) Want to run in both OS 9 and OS 10
 3) Prefer not to use up another PCI slot in the BW. It already has
 ATA controller and USB 2.0/Firewire cards
 
 The PIsmo already has an original Airport card but it only supports
 WEP in OS 9. Plus, it's a little buggy connecting to some routers
 (e.g. with my D-Link I have to change it to 802.11b/g only, no
 802.11n), so it has problems when I take it out to the coffee shop.
 
 I picked up a cheapo Airlink USB adapter with 10.4 drivers, but I
 don't imagine there will be OS 9 drivers.
 
 Any thoughts?

Hi Thomas,
I pulled the Airport card from my Pismo and switched to a Belkin wireless G+
Notebook Card (apparently that is the name of the model)
I use it in wireless G mode for both OS 9 and X (I have noticed that I have
to type in the $ sign before my password when using OS 9) - supports WPA and
WPA2, WEP 64-bit and 128-bit - this with no other driver than Airport.
Wireless N is not supported on this unit.
Hope this helps.
Dana


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Re: Quicksilver won't boot into target disk mode

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Hello Dan,
My responses are embedded within the following:


On 4/1/10 8:54 AM, Deiniol ap Deiniol autolycus.mercat...@googlemail.com
wrote:

 Hi LISTERS,
  WELL Thanks for all helpful suggestions so far
 HD is a 40GB Seagate ST340014A, presumably the original.  At present
 there is no jumper on the back so I assume that's running as Cable
 Select?

No, most likely no jumper means your main HD is running as Master in a
single-HD mode (no slave present)


 
 I know about jumpering HD's from my days on the Dark Side, but since
 most of my Macs are all-in-ones, I've always used external FW drives
 and USB memory sticks, so I'm not yet up to speed on the Mac way.

Since the days when Apple went to IDE (from SCSI), jumping HDs whether PC or
Mac is the same - you are probably in more familiar territory than you may
think :-)

 
 If I wanted to add another HD would I have to jumper them as Master
 and slave or would leaving them as cable select work?

In my experience, this depends on the unit's (firmware) anticipation
I have two QS units in the house, one is jumpered as CS (cable select) and
one is Master/Slave. I tried M/S on the CS unit; didn't work, CS did - trial
and error. However, two MDD units at school was CS, and I took my cue from
the OEM drive still in there. Earlier G4s: all I saw were M-S
configurations.

 
 Ive got a brand new 40GB drive that was destined for one of the
 iMacs, so I may as well
 clone the working system over to that - however the QS is still being
 a bit pernickety!

Whatever configuration you are currently settled on (M/S or CS), try the
opposite. Incidentally, this may have been mentioned before, but in both
arrangements, the target Master drive needs to be at the end of the cable
(not the middle socket)

 
 It has been running fine and not powering down, and seemed to have
 settled.
 

 Keep those helpful thought coming in people!
 
 Regards, Dan.

HTH. The g3/g5 list is indeed a very helpful (and might I add encouraging)
place!
Regards,
Dana


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Re: Response from Canon - MultiPASS (KMM10890786V93678L0KM)

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On 4/1/10 1:43 PM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent

 
 On Apr 1, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Da'Birdman wrote:
 
 I'm satisfied with our machine
 right now, but will seriously reconsider before buying any more MF
 printers from Canon in the future.  Good luck!
 
 
 
 I agree on the MF printers from Canon, too, but I mainly mean MF in
 the Samuel L Jackson sense. I'd buy a Lexmark at this point before I'd
 buy a Canon printer.
 
Ah, Mr. Jackson does have a way with words. ;-)
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Re: Disk Utility Hang

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On 3/2/10 2:55 PM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent

 
 On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:
 
 
 I was also getting Mail app crashes, and occasionally Safari went
 belly up, so I suspected RAM issues. It passes one set of 3 memtest
 passes run off applejack.
 
 DING DING DING.
 
 Memtest  will tell you which DIMM is failing. Swap em around, test
 again. Either the memory failure follows the DIMM or it doesn't. If it
 does it's the DIMM. If it doesn't it's the slot.
 
 Replacing the DVD drive because you have a memory problem is like
 replacing the engine in your car because your rear door fell off.

Mmmm... Maybe that's why it's suddenly so cold in my car.. I'd better go
check!
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Re: I've never seen this before??

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On 3/1/10 2:54 PM, Jeffrey Engle of macgu...@gmail.com sent

 The only ones I'm familiar with have a big clunky white brick. This one in
 the picture appears to be completely different? Jeff
 On Mar 1, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Ricardo Sevilla wrote:
 
 Yes it is an adc to dvi adapter. They sell them at most places that sell
 Macs. I know for a fact that they sell them at Best Buy and Frys.
 
 
 
 On Mar 1, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
 
 In the ebay listing below, there is a G5 for sale. One of the pictures of
 the rear of the G5 has an odd connector that allows his cinema display to
 connect to the G5's DVI port? I want one!!! Jeff

AH, you are looking at a non-Apple pigtail or dongle style ADC to DVI
adapter. Griffin used to make one back in 2004-2005. At that time they cost
about $39 list, a steal considering the big brick Apple units. Griffin also
made an ADC to VGA adapter - I own one for my office G5 - sure came in
handy.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: school issues

[Dana Collins]

On 2/27/10 10:51 AM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent

 At 9:42 AM -0500 2/27/2010, Lawrence David Eden wrote:
 Can connecting a Mac to my school's internet cause problems?
 
 No.
 
 Well, perhaps -- in keeping in the theme of my reply below, it's
 quite possible that your network connection may seem slow.  This will
 reveal yet-another shortcoming of your tech person.
 
 I was told by our tech person that connecting my old iMac at
 school will cause viruses.
 
 Your tech person is at best ignorant ..
 
 Every tech person - even the ones totally drowning 
 
 That fact that your tech person said such a thing tells me that
 he/she/it is afraid of the one virus that cannot be fought:  the
 KNOWLEDGE virus..

 
 HTH,
 - Dan.

My eyes doth perceive that Sir Dan would like to bestow a different, more
illuminating title on yonder serf tech person. Dub away, Sir Dan.
Best regards,
-Dana

P.S. Lawrence, I was treated to the same un-researched drivel for the first
15 yrs. Of my university position before pent-up peer and faculty pressure
(and rise in Mac-owning student population, not to mention Moms and Dads
insisting on being able to communicate with their children) finally
compelled them (I.T.) to cave in and relinquish some 45+% of connection
addresses to Macs - it was worth the arguing in the end, though many a day
it was a lonely uphill battle.


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Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

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On 2/21/10 8:38 PM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent

 
 On Feb 21, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Clark Martin wrote:
 
 
 Our old voice phone number was one off from a local lumber company.
 Most of the calls were if they were open.  I was awful tempted
 sometimes to give them the wrong info.
 
 
 LOL. I just remembered, my wife's number when she was a teen was one
 off of the local pizzeria; when she was feeling particularly
 mischievous, (and she recognized the voice, it was a small town) she'd
 take the order. :-)

When living in CA, our home was one no. off from a nearby medical practice.
One time the inerrant caller was convinced that she had the right no. AND
that I was the party (the MD) she was trying to reach- I was so-o-o tempted
to pretend I was (well, I AM a Dr., but not that kind) until I found out the
specialty involved was gynecology - definitely wrong no.!
Ah, phone memories
Dana


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Re: Question: What Are They?

[Dana Collins]

On 1/31/10 9:54 PM, Stephen Conrad of khel...@gmail.com sent

 I have 3 things you plug into your computer that look like USB on one end. The
 other end has 6 pins and a black square pin in the middle
 Two are a light purple, one is green (1 2 are purple, #3 is green)
 
 1) Has a KB pic near the pin plugin end and a 3 prong thing near the other end
 2) - (arrow) on the pin end and a KB on the other end
 3) Mouse on the pin end and 3 prong thing near the other end

Hi Stephen,
Without seeing a picture, I am going to venture a guess that you are looking
at some USB to PS2 adapters ­ one end of the adapter should be female (the
USB end according to your description?), the other end male to plug into the
motherboard ports.
Purple is a rather ³popular² standard color for PS2 keyboard connections on
a PC, with orange or green being for the PS2 mouse ­ more than likely, your
cables were issued with an older PC right at the transition period into USB.
That¹s my guess ­ best regards,
Dana

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Re: nVidia Geforce 6200 vs Radeon 9600 Pro 64 MB

[Dana Collins]

On 1/28/10 12:23 PM, Klaus Marx of nox...@gmail.com sent

 
 On Jan 28, 2010, at 3:42 PM, GLT wrote:
 
 I have a G5 2.0 GHz dual processor PCI-X tower running 10.5.8 that
 currently has the stock AGP 8x Radeon 9600 Pro MB video.
 
 I also have a 8x AGP nVidia 6200 (don't recall RAM size) flashed for
 Mac.Is there a clear-cut reason to prefer one of these AGP cards over
 the other, for use in this G5?
 
 I guess the 6200 would be a bit faster, as long it has a 128bit memory bus.
 
 Perhaps someone can compare/contrast them for me?
 
 Also, would the Radeon card work in A 1.2GHz Digital Audio G4's AGP
 slot?
 
 It would, but you need to tape two pins

Greetings,
The target unit for these two cards was a G5 tower. With such being the
case, then the two-pins-taped hack for the 6200 does not need to enacted.
Taping the two pins (6 and 11?) fools the otherwise 8x AGP card into
thinking it is a 4x AGP card. Of course, the G5 is native 8x AGP, so no
tape required- taping is a concern if the user wants to migrate the card to
any G4 unit.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Thinking about a new CPU for a Sawtooth 500 MHz G4

[Dana Collins]

On 1/25/10 12:48 AM, Kris Tilford of ktilfo...@cox.net sent

 On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:21 PM, Dana Collins wrote:
 
 If you have used PC-100 in a unit designed for faster RAM, I would
 say that
 is an anomaly, or you have the darned luckiest Mac on the planet!
 
 I've noticed that sometimes RAM sold as slower RAM is actually a
 faster variety. You need to inspect the individual chips on each
 module to determine how fast they are. When faster RAM is sold as
 slower, it will normally be labeled as the slower RAM, and will
 sometimes identify to the system as slower RAM, but an inspection of
 the individual chips in the sure way to know the speed. I believe this
 occurs because it's simply cheaper to produce newer faster chips on
 smaller dies than the older slower chips. Also, larger modules can be
 made with less total chips. Thus, new RAM labeled as PC66 or PC100
 might in fact be PC133 modules simply labeled as PC66 or PC100.
 
 The same holds true with video cards, sometimes video cards have
 faster VRAM chips than the card's firmware specifies, and these cards
 are normally able to be safely overclocked to whatever speed the
 individual VRAM chips support. When older slower chips run out of
 stock they simply continue production using newer faster chips.

O-h-h-h .. Thanks for the clarification!
Dana


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Re: Thinking about a new CPU for a Sawtooth 500 MHz G4

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On 1/24/10 1:45 AM, Mac User #330250 of macuser330...@gmx.net sent

 --  Original message  --
 Subject: Re: Thinking about a new CPU for a Sawtooth 500 MHz G4
 Date:Sonntag 24 Januar 2010N
 From:Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net
 To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 
 On 1/23/10 4:03 PM, Mac User #330250 of macuser330...@gmx.net sent
 
 Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the QS can take the PC100 DIMMs also,
 right?
 
 
 Hi Andreas,
 No, the QS (and the DA before it) need PC 133 RAM - 512Mb sticks x3 for a
 max RAM capacity of 1.5 Gig (it is the only downgrade of the QS/DA to the
 Sawtooth - the Sawtooth has 4 Ram slots so you could actually max at 2 Gig
 RAM in it).
 
 I knew that. But doesn't the QS *take* PC100 RAM as well? While this will
 include a slight speed decreese it will make the purchase of RAM-DIMMs
 optional. Right?
 
 I've used PC100 DIMMs _and_ PC133 DIMMs in my Quicksilver 2001 733 MHz without
 a problem. System Profiler shows which type of DIMM you're using.
 
 Saying that I have to include that the very same Quicksilver didn't take an
 identical DIMM -- it just ignored it and showed the memory bank as being empty
 -- while the other DIMM was recognized normally. That was PC133 RAM by the way
 and the DIMMs has serial numbers in sequenze. It was and is a mystory to me.
 
 Cheers,
 Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

HI Andreas,

If you have used PC-100 in a unit designed for faster RAM, I would say that
is an anomaly, or you have the darned luckiest Mac on the planet! :-). It is
my understanding, supported by both advice and experience, that units
needing PC-100 are forward compatible (i.e. You can use PC-133 in a Sawtooth
requiring PC-100), but not the opposite. I remember having a beige G3 and I
had a mix of PC-66 (the native requirement), PC-100 and PC-133 in it, but I
could not use any of the PC-66 in my B+W G3. My Sawtooth G4 was loaded with
PC-133 when I got it, which I was able to migrate to my DA, and eventually a
QS; I accidently put a PC-100 in my DA, and it beeped and chirped angrily at
me (so sorry!). I suppose a DA or QS could use PC-166, if it existed, but by
then the 2100 and beyond was upon us (different socket altogether).
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Thinking about a new CPU for a Sawtooth 500 MHz G4

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(Quote)


On 1/23/10 4:03 PM, Mac User #330250 of macuser330...@gmx.net sent


 Full ACK. Consider the QS option for you (buying a used one for around 100
 Dollars with no HDDs and no RAM makes your upgrade easy -- you'd just go for
 the CPU speed).
 
 Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the QS can take the PC100 DIMMs also,
 right?
 
 
 Cheers,
 Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

(end Quote)

Hi Andreas,
No, the QS (and the DA before it) need PC 133 RAM - 512Mb sticks x3 for a
max RAM capacity of 1.5 Gig (it is the only downgrade of the QS/DA to the
Sawtooth - the Sawtooth has 4 Ram slots so you could actually max at 2 Gig
RAM in it).
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Thinking about a quicksilver...

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On 1/19/10 8:18 PM, Jeffrey Engle of macgu...@gmail.com sent

 After adding up the dollars to put this MDD together, I'm wondering
 what the best quicksilver would be? I'm looking at 800mhz systems on
 ebay for around  100 dollars? sure they're only 800mhz single
 processor systems, but I can upgrade it later can't I? I just need a
 really good tiger/os9 machine for odds and ends what's the best q-
 silver to get? Jeff

Hello Jeff,
This is easy - shoot for any of the 2002 models (800MHz, 933MHz, or the best
of them all, 1GHz DP). The 2002 models introduced native, on-the-board large
drive support.
Conversely, avoid the initial QS model, the 733Mz unit of 2001 - this was
actually slower than the 733MHz Dig. Audio because it dropped the L3 cache
on the CPU.
HTH,
Dana


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Re: Target Disk Mode is new to me so the it means what

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On 1/19/10 11:10 PM, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 On Jan 19, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:
 Sorry to be so fresh, but I have not done this and would appreciate
 your knowledgeable reply. Also, does firewire have the same
 connector on both ends?
 
 Most computers have the large 4-pin connecter on them for FireWire
 400. 

Just a clarification. This would be a six-pin connection. Most (now older)
Macs were harnessed with this style; the PCs I've seen run 50/50 between
this and the smaller 4-pin connection referred to. The 4-pin is the smaller
crimped connection, also referred to as 1394 or (Sony) E-link about
the same size as a mini-USB port

If you are hooking two of these together, then yes. Most DV cams
 and some laptops have a small, square plug as opposed to the larger
 tombstone-shaped one .
FireWire 800 uses the same small connector but
 if i remember right it has more pins.

FW 800 ports are larger than the 4-pin versions, square-ish, with a recessed
middle for a collared connection. It has 9 pins.
Here is an article and handy pictures on the subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FireWireBest regards,
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Re: G4 Mac OS 10.3 to 10.4 or 10.5?

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On 1/15/10 12:26 PM, stevo137 of stevo...@hotmail.com sent

 I have a G4 mac, 400 Mb processor, 1 gb memory. It has a os 10.3
 panther Os. Can I upgrade to 10.5 or do I have to upgrade to 10.4
 tiger?

Hello Steve,
Been following this short thread. As the others have sagely suggested:

1) G4 @867MHz is the base minimum for 10.5. OWC's Leopard Assist helps
with installing 10,5 on lower clocked CPUs, but I believe their target floor
is the highest DA's clock speed of 733MHz (Leopard left so many DA and QS
owners out of the loop). Expect big problems trying to get 10.5 on a 400MHz
unit. Even if successful, I envision a s-l-o-w performance experience.

2) I use Tiger 10.4.11 on my *G3* 400MHz Pismo, and it runs flawlessly (inc.
Safari 4.0.4), really an excellent OS, and my top vote.

3) As Doug mentioned, if remaining connected with old-world Macs is a
concern, then stay with 10.3 (.9) Otherwise, go with Tiger.

Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Power button

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On 1/13/10 9:54 AM, Norm Rowe of nrow...@roadrunner.com sent

 Somehow my G4 gigbit is is back. Out of 4 hard drives I got one to finally
 mount after many trouble shooting steps. I had to do an erase and install so
 many things are still not right but I can at least work on it. The problem is
 the power button does not do anything. Must unplug and replug in order to
 start the G4. Have a USB keyboard with out a power button. Anyone know what is
 wrong and how to fix it. Already set pram about 5 times and pushed the cuda
 switch. I have a brand new install of the OS. Everything else seems to be OK.
 Norm
 
Hi Norm,
For what it's worth, the power board on all these G4 form factors (Sawtooth
to QuickSilver) are easily removable and replaceable - the power board (the
small circuit controller board that is behind your power button, usually
contained in a small metal bracket) would be my first speculation. See if
you can obtain one on the swap list, being sure to specify that you need it
for a Gig-E. Other than that, get a Pro-style keyboard that has a soft power
button, equally inexpensive.
HTH,
Dana


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Re: Mic question

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On 1/5/10 6:02 PM, Stephen Conrad of khel...@gmail.com sent

 System: G4 Quicksilver
 OS X 10.4.11
 
 What kind of Mic does this machine need?
 It seems that the one I have is the wrong one
 No idea what model but it looks like a Wand and the plug had a pic of an old
 Mic on it
 I think, if I tried the right place, the plug is too big

Hi Stephen,
The G4 QS (and the Dig. Audio preceding it) does not have a native audio
input of any kind (usually the Macs offered a Mic-In stereo mini-plug, which
your mic would have been a candidate for). You¹ll need to ³create² an input
externally, either by installing an Audio I/O PCI card, or (more popularly)
a USB solution like a Griffin iMic.
HTH,
Dana
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Re: iPhoto

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On 1/6/10 4:17 PM, Stephen Conrad of khel...@gmail.com sent

 Machine: G4 Quicksilver running OS X 10.4.11
 
 I cannot seem to DL any version of iPhoto, even from Apple's site. They all
 say they cannot find iPhoto on my machine
 And I do not have it on my machine (i looked for it)
 Anyone?

Hi Stephen,
As others have said, iPhoto (part of iLife) needs to be purchased (bundling
with the OS is only a recent action on Apple's part). For Tiger, iTunes is
the only free component of the iLife suite. Shop the Swaplist for a used
copy of iLife '06 or later; you'll get a copy at a good price.
Best regards,
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Re: Dan's suggestion on backing up-Time Machine Query

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On 1/1/10 3:29 PM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent

 At 11:42 AM -0800 1/1/2010, DLC wrote:
 I like to BK my working OS (on my G5) using SuperDuper, which I've
 done. However, I had a spare external FW drive that I tried Time
 Machine on. It's been a little while, so tonight I may do it again.
 However... the drive is only 200 Gig in size
 
 * does TM make a completely new duplicate image of your drive, or
 * does it make refresher tags, updating the prior image to a more
 contemporaneous state, and marking the changes?
 
 Time Machine adds your changed files to its database on that drive,
 and makes note of which files you've deleted; essentially an
 incremental save set.  It does not update the previously stored
 data directly, like SuperDuper or CCC would.  Remember - TM does NOT
 produce a bootable system (clone).
 
 (remember the days when that spec was regarded as incredible?)
 
 $999 for a 200 MB HD for my Mac IIci.
 
 And a few years later, $550 for a 2 GB HD.
 
 - Dan.

Thanks, Dan, and thanks to Jeffrey and John for chiming in also - most
helpful, thanks!

 $999 for a 200 MB HD for my Mac IIci.
 
 And a few years later, $550 for a 2 GB HD

I remember feeling real good about *only* spending approx. $300 for a 12 Mb
RAM upgrade for my IIvx :-)

-Dana


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Re: Screensaver?

[Dana Collins]

On 12/31/09 5:08 PM, Gary Conrad of kc7...@gmail.com sent

 Hi, I installed OS 9 on my G3, maxed out the memory and it works
 great!
 Free computer, free software, what I need is: How do you get the
 screensaver to work, or is there one, or do I have to download
 something that is missing, or what??
 Thank you from a duh user.
 Gary

Hi Gary,
No such thing as a duh question or answer when it comes to computers,
imho.
OS 9 traditionally did not ship with a native screen saver (as OS X does),
but there were several 3rd party solutions, some of them quite elegant.
Generally they acted as small applications that you would put in you Control
Panels folder or Startup Items - it would launch at start up, but engage
only on cue (when you told it to according to your preferences set-up). I
seem to recall, towards the end of the OS 9 era, that many created theirs
using Macromedia Director (a precursor to Flash).
Maybe there are some sites still around doling out such OS 9 goodies.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Firewire ports stop working?

[Dana Collins]

On 12/30/09 10:30 AM, Alexander MacLeod of twocor...@gmail.com sent

 On Dec 30, 2009 12:40 AM, Hal kaste...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I guess all I really needed to do is shut off the G5 and unplug it for 20
 minutes. That seems to have revived the ports. Is it possible to have
 overpowered the firewire bus and shut it down by plugging in 2 external
 drives (each with it's own AC adapter, none on bus power) and copying a few
 terabytes worth of backup data?
 
 Cheers,
 -Hal
 
 On Dec 29, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Hal wrote:  Anyone have the experience with
 their G5 where all 3 of...

I guess ignorance is bliss, Hal. My Firewire ports are AWOL as well on my G5
­ no wonder I could not sync my 4th Gen. iPod via FW. ³About my Mac²
reported my external LaCie DVD burner, but only after a long time; Toast
can¹t see it. And my Seagate back up drive (front FW) is also a no show.
Hope a cool down does the trick. If not, any other suggestions more
OS-related anyone? FYI, my G5 unit is VERY clean (yes, in the audio world,
analog and digital, we¹re taught to check the cables/connections first in
troubleshooting).
Best regards,
Dana

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Re: Firewire ports stop working?

[Dana Collins]

On 12/30/09 4:25 PM, Hal of kaste...@mac.com sent

 
 On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Dana Collins wrote:
 
 
 On Dec 29, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Hal wrote:  Anyone have the experience with
 their G5 where all 3 of...
 
 I guess ignorance is bliss, Hal. My Firewire ports are AWOL as well on my G5
 ­ no wonder I could not sync my 4th Gen. iPod via FW. ³About my Mac² reported
 my external LaCie DVD burner, but only after a long time; Toast can¹t see it.
 And my Seagate back up drive (front FW) is also a no show. Hope a cool down
 does the trick. If not, any other suggestions more OS-related anyone? FYI, my
 G5 unit is VERY clean (yes, in the audio world, analog and digital, we¹re
 taught to check the cables/connections first in troubleshooting).
 
 Yep, I checked the cables and connections as well. I had already replaced the
 PRAM battery trying to sort out another issue, but I read online somewhere to
 power down and unplug for 15-20 minutes. It did the trick for me.
 
 Oddly enough, someone else mentioned a cold climate. I do live in Salt Lake
 City, and had just relocated my office a month ago to a room in my house
 that's cooler. I thought that might be a good thing...
 
 Cheers,
 -Hal
 
Ha! I am in my basement in northern Indiana - *that* should be cool enough
:-)
Anyway for me, a quick zap of the ol' PRAM did the trick; your post just
made me check it out.
Happy New year,
Dana


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Re: Firewire ports stop working?

[Dana Collins]

On 12/30/09 8:18 PM, Stewie de Young of stewies...@hotmail.com sent

 Some pertinent links here
 http://www.wiebetech.com/whitepapers/FireWirePortFailures.php
 http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1534543
 
 Stewie
 
Thank you for the links, Stevie. Most helpful.
-Dana


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Re: Firewire ports stop working? - iTunes query

[Dana Collins]

On 12/30/09 9:56 PM, Dana Collins of dlcatft...@verizon.net sent

 
 
 
 On 12/30/09 8:18 PM, Stewie de Young of stewies...@hotmail.com sent
 
 Some pertinent links here
 http://www.wiebetech.com/whitepapers/FireWirePortFailures.php
 http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1534543
 
 Stewie
 
 Thank you for the links, Stevie. Most helpful.
 -Dana
 
As a follow up to this, an indirect but related issue - testing my FireWire
ports, I discovered that none of my FW syncing cables (I used with my 3rd
and 4th gen. iPods) worked (I could charge, but not sync). One cable going
bad is anticipated, but all three at once? Reestablishing contact to the FW
ports did not change the non-syncing issue.

My guess is iTunes 9.x has cut FW syncing support. Can anybody confirm this
suspicion if true?
Thanks,
Dana


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Re: I know I am a pest

[Dana Collins]

On 12/28/09 11:02 PM, Robert Long of texasche...@hotmail.com sent

 
 All you great mac people,, I got some software off EBay for OS 9 and 9.2  and
 when I began to install it to fix some glitches 8.1, which is only my
 suspecions, I got a message that I need to update my firmware from my Instal
 disk which I did not get.  I bought this unit about 9 years ago or so for my
 other job.  When the company went belly up, they called and ask if I wanted
 the G3.  So I have no software.  How can I get firmware for OS 8.0 or 8.1 so i
 can install OS 9??  And thanks again for all your help.  I am going to move my
 modem closer to the G3 and run a ethernet cord
 Chef
 Robert Long


Hi Robert,
The others can refresh my memory, but can the G3 actually run 8.1? (you are
working with a Blue and White (smurf), yes?)
As for the firmware update, is this what you are looking for?

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58374

Hope it helps.
Regards,
Dana


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Re: Apple DVI Adapter query

[Dana Collins]

On 12/23/09 10:57 AM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent

 
 On Dec 22, 2009, at 8:37 PM, DLC wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I have a question for those who have dealt with an
 adapter from Apple that is being sold these days.
 We purchased a new Mac Pro and MacBook Pro recently. Both were to have
 been provided with a Mini Display Port to DVI adapter
 (not the former mini-DVI to DVI adapter) - they were, but the DVI end
 was unlike any DVI configuration I had seen (and indeed, no DVI
 monitor that we own can connect to this adapter).
 
 Does it look like this?
 
 http://tinyurl.com/yfycvok
 
 That looks like a normal DVI interface to me. It's strictly digital;
 it's lacking the pins around the wide pin for the analog lines; if
 your existing DVI monitor cable has them, you may need to get a new
 cable. If the adapter doesn't look like that, then you've been getting
 the wrong part all along...
 
 I'd reccomend Monoprice http://www.monoprice.com they've got the
 best deals on cabling (and other AV accessories!) going.
 
 (Related, but OT: If you get a shiny new LCD TV this season, don't pay
 Best Buy prices for HDMI cables or Wall Mounts, go to Monoprice.
 
 The mount that Costco wanted to sell me for $89 cost me $29 at
 Monoprice. A 6' HDMI cable is about $6-7.)
 
 
Hi Bruce,
Thanks for the response and information.
 Does it look like this?
Well, yes and no - that's the product, ours does not have that extra
perpendicular slot on the left (middle picture at Apple page)

 I'd recommend Monoprice

Thanks for the tip! - looks like great prices.
Happy Holidays,
Dana

P.S. - for Fabian - I'll take such queries to the Intel group next time,
thank you for that tip.


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Re: Large format printer

[Dana Collins]

On 12/22/09 4:29 PM, Kyle Hansen of pi...@speakeasy.net sent

 Does anyone know of a large format LASERJET printer?  I have a friend who
 wants to replace her Epson 2000 with a Laserjet equivalent and I have never
 heard of such a beast.  Any help would be appreciated.  She's wealthy so
 cost probably doesn't matter.

Hi Kyle,
We use an HP LJ 5200 - GB-networkable, mucho RAM, hard drive, 3 trays
including the requested 11x17 - hardy and easy as pie to link up with Macs.
My 2¢ 
Best  regards,
Dana


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Re: Burning music

[Dana Collins]

On 12/21/09 10:58 AM, Paul Stamsen of pjs...@bresnan.net sent

 I have burned some songs to disks  and they play fine in a portable CD player
 (Walkman, kinda) but they will not play in my car - although regular music
 disks do.
 
 What am I missing?
 
  P.

Hi Paul,
What year is your car? I have found the difference in OEM-installed CD
players (re: cross compatibility) between the years 2003 to 2005 to be quite
critical, with 2003 demonstrating your symptoms quite consistently.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Burning music

[Dana Collins]

On 12/21/09 11:09 AM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent

 
 On Dec 21, 2009, at 8:58 AM, Paul Stamsen wrote:
 
 I have burned some songs to disks  and they play fine in a portable
 CD player (Walkman, kinda) but they will not play in my car -
 although regular music disks do.
 
 What am I missing?
 
 
 
 two main possibilities.
 
 1) It's a disk full of MP3 files. Some cd players play them, some do
 not. Many will have some small MP3 logo on them if they do. If it's an
 older CD player in the car it may not play anything but audio CD's.
 
 2) It's a a REALLY old CD player in the car and it doesn't like
 recordable CD's. If they're CDRW's, try plain CDR's,

(point)

 or a different brand of CDR's.

Avoid Memorex like the plague - my 2¢ worth.

- Dana


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Re: USB/MIDI Digital Keyboard PowersUp my QS

[Dana Collins]

On 12/20/09 8:44 AM, Bill Connelly of billycarm...@verizon.net sent

 
 On Dec 18, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:
 
 I changed to a newer driver for my Yamaha motif es8 digital keyboard,
 connected as a USB device, and now when I turn on the motif es8, my
 attached QS Dual 1GHz Powers Up. (OS X 10.5.8).
 
 Weird? I've never noticed this happening before.
 
 My QS is not in Sleep mode ... an installed M-Audio 2496 doesn't
 support Sleep. It's, allegedly, completely Shut Down.
 
 No Energy Saver Options are checked (Wake options all off).
 
 It does have a replacement mobo.
 
 Any other experience with USB devices being turned on, starting up
 your attached Mac?
 
 
 
 According to a KB attachable item (no longer) for sale ...
 http://www.welovemacs.com/usb-key-bt.html
 
 ... all Macs up to the Quicksilver G4 (some exceptions) can be started
 with a USB power button.
 
 I'm just concluding my Yamaha motif es8 power switch/USB line, is
 being perceived as a power button.
  

Well, an early Christmas present from Yamaha, I'd say, Bill!
How cool is that?...switch on your MIDI controller and your system lights
up.
About the time you get used to it, another firmware update will cancel it
out, then you'll think it's broken!:-D
Happy Holidays,
Dana


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Re: iPod Help

[Dana Collins]

On 11/11/09 3:01 PM, Richard Gerome of onecoolka...@earthlink.net sent

 
 
Did you try doing it manually? Where you drag each song out of iTunes
 library and drop it into your iPod so it doesn't replace the songs already in
 it... You should find this under iTunes preferences...
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: DLC dlcatft...@verizon.net
 Sent: Nov 11, 2009 12:27 PM
 To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Subject: iPod Help
 
 
 Greetings all,
 Thanks to a perfect srorm of failure (electric power and UPS *argh!*),
 my machine was shut down while my iPod touch was docked with iTunes
 up, loading class audio files. Upon reboot, my iPod as stand alone
 shows loss of all music and playlists. However, iTunes (on my office
 G5) shows it remembers all the playlists and (at least) the names of
 all the files in each playlist, which is apropo for the iPod (not
 necessarily correct for this particular library). If I do a general
 sync, nothing is refreshed on the iPod. If I do a music-specific sync,
 I get a warning that everything on the iPod will be replaced by what
 is on the computer.
 What I need to do is to force the iPod to update the library - anyone
 know the trick to this?
 many thanks,
 Dana
Hi Richard,
Thanks for replying. Yes, all of my iTunes on all computers is set for
manual management.
What I wanted to avoid was redoing the whole shebang on the iPod if I could.
That the Mac could see directories and files but the iPod could not led me
to my question. Had both Mac and iPod shown nothing would have told me I
needed to start from scratch.
Good news - I dragged a music file that was known to be already on the iPod
(maybe that is what you were suggesting?) which forced it to do an update of
its own library - all's well.
Odd: apps, photos and videos were fine - just MP3 resources got damaged.
Thanks,
Dana



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