Re: troubles upgrading new to me Quicksilver with Radeon 9200 and Airport Issues
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Marty Levine wrote: The Quicksilver boots up with the original video card but the machine will not even power up with the 9200 card installed. If you haven't zapped the PRAM and/or reset the NVRAM (or pressed the CUDA reset button), this would be a good thing to do. When you're adding new hardware, it's best to start from scratch as far as anything stored in non-volatile memory goes. I'm thinking the problem with the Radeon 9200 is the old pins 3 11 issue. The 9200 is normally an AGPx8 card, and needs tape or modification to disable pins 3 11. You can read about the 9200 here: http://lowendmac.com/video/agp/radeon-9200.html Here is the pins 3 11 info here: http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11 I'd go ahead and install Leopard, it's gotta be better than messing with Panther. I'm not up-to-speed on Airport issues, but I think some people add a $ sign at the beginning of their password under certain encryption protocols to get the password to recognize. For example, if your password was password you'd enter $password instead and it would recognize. I will look for the CUDA reset button tonight as well as research the pin issue with the links you provided. Just for the heck of it I just tried the $ in the password before I head off to work - no luck there. I do think it is WEP vs WPA/WPA2 issue and will try Leopard install tonight with original video card while I do my other research on the pin issue. That should take hours and at least give me WPA/WPA2 options. I will try a USB wireless G/N adapter after I install my USB2 card tonight (after the Leopard install). Do I need the speed of USB2 for those kind of wireless connections? Thanks everyone to all for your comments so far. -- Marty p.s. I even remembered to bottom post -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
troubles upgrading new to me Quicksilver with Radeon 9200 and Airport Issues
I bought a Radeon 9200 from a fellow lister way back in Dec 2008. Needless to say the project I was working on never happened and now I am finally trying to use the card on a new to me Quicksilver. The Quicksilver boots up with the original video card but the machine will not even power up with the 9200 card installed. Any clues on what I am doing wrong? I have reseated it several times with the power off of course. My google searches have been rather unproductive. Any help or guidance in finding answers would be appreciate. The Quicksilver which I just picked up from a fellow lister has 10.3 on it and I still have to connect it to the network to get it fully updated to 10.3.9 (?). I have the family edition of 10.5 and I plan to put that on it eventually since I don't have 10.4 and don't feel like investing in another OS. I wanted to get the newer video card working first. Would it be easier after I install 10.5? (Yes I know 10.5 will be more sluggish than 10.4 but thats OK for what I do on it since I was happy with 10.5 on a 450mhz Sawtooth) Also, the Quicksilver sees the network but cannot log in. It does not recognize the password. Could it be the protocol WEP, WPA, etc in 10.3 is not compatible with encryption systtem being used by my router and MacBook Pro ( I think it is an N and at least a G -h I may hve locked out all B traffic when I set it up) (I thought I knew how to find out what standard I am using with the MacBook pro but I can't remember how to check that right now.) I was concentrating on the Video card issue first. I don't think the problem is OS related since I can get absolutely no startup - no chime, beep, etc on the machine with the card installed but then what do i know? Even if 10.3 can't handle the 9200, I would expect it at least to try to power up and then have whatever problems it might have. Thanks for any guidance. - -- Marty -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: troubles upgrading new to me Quicksilver with Radeon 9200 and Airport Issues
Agp and in the agp slot. The slots are very different Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2010, at 12:08 AM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:00 PM, Marty Levine wrote: I bought a Radeon 9200 from a fellow lister way back in Dec 2008. Needless to say the project I was working on never happened and now I am finally trying to use the card on a new to me Quicksilver. The Quicksilver boots up with the original video card but the machine will not even power up with the 9200 card installed. Any clues on what I am doing wrong? I have reseated it several times with the power off of course. My google searches have been rather unproductive. Any help or guidance in finding answers would be appreciate. Is your Radeon 9200 a PCI or AGP video card? The PCI one needs to be a PCI slot and not the AGP slot. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: troubles upgrading new to me Quicksilver with Radeon 9200 and Airport Issues
Oops sorry for top posting. Answering in bottom post now Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2010, at 12:08 AM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:00 PM, Marty Levine wrote: I bought a Radeon 9200 from a fellow lister way back in Dec 2008. Needless to say the project I was working on never happened and now I am finally trying to use the card on a new to me Quicksilver. The Quicksilver boots up with the original video card but the machine will not even power up with the 9200 card installed. Any clues on what I am doing wrong? I have reseated it several times with the power off of course. My google searches have been rather unproductive. Any help or guidance in finding answers would be appreciate. Is your Radeon 9200 a PCI or AGP video card? The PCI one needs to be a PCI slot and not the AGP slot. It was supposed to be agp when I bought it and it appears to be perfect match to agp slot. Unfortunately there is no sticker/label on the card to identify it. -- Marty -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth
I installed Leopard on an external drive from another machine and just ran my Sawtooth from the external drive. I used an iBook G4 then. I did run it on a 450 mhz machine. Slow but useable. Marty On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 12:19 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jun 6, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Christopher Clarke wrote: There is a program called LeopardAssist : www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/26562/leopardassist You can also put it on your machine via CCC that's how I do them but it will run slow on a 400MHz:-) On 6 Jun 2010, at 17:10, Jasiu wrote: I know that Apple states that the processor has to be above 866 MHZ for this to run. I have 2 gigs of RAM on a 400 MHZ G4. Is there a work around for this machine? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth
Slow is relative. It is definitely not unuseable. But it is slower than the older versions of osX I had. But i liked its interface better AND I only had to support one version of OSX. Of course I haven't used my Sawtooth much lately but I am hoping to get it up and running again as a Mail station and web surfer so I don't have to move my Intel laptop around as much. I am sure I will def notice how slow it is then. -- Marty On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: I have Leopard on a 400Mhz iSaw, and it's not slow at all. It actually is pretty fast if you ask me. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 10.5 in older machines question
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Brucebsugarb...@core.com wrote: Hello, If I install 10.5 on a hard drive in an MDD, then remove that hard drive and put it in a 733 QS or a 733 DA, what would happen? Would 10.5 now boot and run on the QS and DA? Thanks, Bruce S. It should work. I installed 10.5 on an external disk from an Ibook G4 and then booted a Sawtooth on it for over a year as the primary drive. An internal drive should work the same way. hope that helps - Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4.0
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:35 PM, iJohnzjboyguard-ggro...@yahoo.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Dandantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:35 PM -0700 6/18/2009, irrational john wrote: Elaborate please - exactly what isn't working? I've played with just about everything in the GMail web interface and it seems to work quite well with Safari 4.0. When I use gmail on my MacBook in OSX ... which is usually Safari ... selecting items via the checkbox and then clicking the top delete button does nothing. The mail is not deleted. I think this also happens in Firefox, but I tend not to use Firefox as much on the MacBook so my memory isn't clear. If I scroll down and, without changing anything else, I instead click on the delete button at the bottom of the mail list, then the selected items are deleted. Its not a Safari 4.0 bug! I have the same behavior is Safari 3.2.3 I know that doesn't help you much but it may help the guru's figure it out. I'm not even sure when it started since I normally use Firefox. -- Marty p.s. As a former semi frequent top poster I have to say bottom posting is much easier to follow and the trimming really helps. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Removing Classic and freeing up space on friends G4
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Bruce Johnsonjohn...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: To free up space, what is the best way to remove Classic and all the classic applications. Dump the classic system folder, the apps and the like, but don't expect a vast amount of space. How do I dump the classic system folder. I tried to trash the folder and received a warning to the effect that it was a file necessary for the system. I apologize for not having the exact error message but I do not have access to the computer again until next week. Also, to save space I am considering removing all foreign language support. I believe the recommended software is Monolingual to accomplish this. Are there any languages other than English (US version) that should be maintained? None, unless she uses any of them. This will gain you a couple of gigabytes. Between languages and the architecures that I removed (ARM, G5's and Intels) we only gained about 260M. But we are now up to 5.4 gb free on a 55 gb drive (it was down to 1.12 gb free when I started. Thank you for your help - Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Program to remove foreign languages from OSX 10.4
Thank you - I remember hearing about that one too. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Jack Countrymanjcoun...@mac.com wrote: There is another program out there called 'delocalizer' that not only removes the languages, but also the regional/country settings that go with them. It seems to get a bit more of the stuff most of us do not need than what monolingual does. By default, it doesn't remove 'American English' or related files. On 6/12/09 1:39 PM, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: Several things to remember about Monolingual: 1. Make sure NOT to remove all the languages, leave at least one (hence the name Monolingual!) 2. Ditto for keyboard layouts and architectures 3. You might consider leaving the Klingon language installed, it's not wise to p*ss them off! On Jun 11, 9:56 pm, Marty Levine marty.lev...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I thought I read that Monolingual is the application I needed to remove unneeded foreign languages from OS X. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Removing Classic and freeing up space on friends G4
My friend has a G4 with a small hard drive that is almost out space. She does not want an external hard drive and is not ready to upgrade or add an internal hard drive. She has finally abandoned her last Classic application and is running 10.4.11. To free up space, what is the best way to remove Classic and all the classic applications. Space is very tight - should I be dumping plist files for her classic applications? She does have a full bootable clone of her system that I maintain for her just in case (actually two backups on one my external drives). I will update her clones immediately prior to any major changes. Clones are normally updated weekly. Thanks for your recommendations. Also, to save space I am considering removing all foreign language support. I believe the recommended software is Monolingual to accomplish this. Are there any languages other than English (US version) that should be maintained? Thanks for your guidance - Marty p.s. We have already removed most 3rd party applications that she does not use (in OSX) but have only removed them from the applications folder. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Removing Classic and freeing up space on friends G4
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Bruce Johnsonjohn...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 11, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Marty Levine wrote: To free up space, what is the best way to remove Classic and all the classic applications. Space is very tight - should I be dumping plist files for her classic applications? Plist files are generally on the order of 4K. My entire preferences file is only about 3Megs in size. The only programs that use appreciable disk space outside of the Applications folder are things like Garage Band and iDVD and Adobe apps. Dump the classic system folder, the apps and the like, but don't expect a vast amount of space. Also, to save space I am considering removing all foreign language support. I believe the recommended software is Monolingual to accomplish this. Are there any languages other than English (US version) that should be maintained? None, unless she uses any of them. This will gain you a couple of gigabytes. Truthfully, the solution is to add a larger and/or another internal hard drive, why is she insistent on not doing that? -- Thanks Bruce, My friends reluctance is purely a cost matter - but I keep pushing. Within the last year she has already funded the external hard drive that I maintain for her as a backup and is now finally considering adding desperately needed RAM. Unfortunately the needed hard drive will require expert installation becasue her G4 happens to be a PowerBook and I am reluctant to work on them. I'm reluctant to ask questions about that here because that belongs in a differen LEM list. My previous question was generic enough for the G3-G5 list (or at least I hope it was) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Removing Classic and freeing up space on friends G4
Thans for the links - I missed your response to my own thread in my email when I was looking for Monolingual - 16 hour days can make it easy to make a mistake. Sorry for posting for it separately - Thank you. Marty On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Kris Tilfordktilfo...@cox.net wrote: You might consider using freeware utility Monolingual to strip all the extra languages, keyboard input methods, and intel code. I think you should be able to save nearly gigabyte without substantially harming the System. Another really good freeware tool for clearing out large, useless files is OmniDiskSweeper. It will list EVERYTHING on the HD by size so you can easily find whatever may be lurking in the bowels of the HD. Things to look for are tutorial movies for iMovie, iDVD, etc; and iPhoto iDVD themes for books or DVD that you don't use; and large printer drivers for printers you don't own or normally use, in some cases HP or Epson drivers can be over 500MB. If you NEED to carry around ALL printer drivers, use the GutenPrint drivers and ditch the OEM bloatware for printers you don't own. Here are some links: http://monolingual.sourceforge.net/ http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnidisksweeper/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which OS for 2 Handme down Machines - which one(s)? and are they worth it?
On 5/13/09, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Baha Ata wrote: For my point of view, iMac version as you mentioned will be determined. If i am in same shoes with him, i get rid off the ibook, if it is higher iMac G5 focus on it. It's a real pain in the butt to carry that iMac to the library or the coffee shop, or the living room, for that matter. WHY is everyone telling this poor guy to get rid of a perfectly good Mac? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs Thanks Bruce - my thought too. Too bad its not my computer or I definitely would put 10.5 on it, upgrade the RAM and just run it as a toteable computer. Of course I have a family pack with one more license so it would be free for me. I'm just wondering if my friend and his family would be better off learning 10.4 or 10.5 on this older hardware for their first Mac experience. As for putting OS 9.2.2 on it or classic why would I want to confuse them even more with obsolete technology they never have seen or used. I do not plan on being long-term tech support for them and our local user groups have basically abandoned OS 9.x.x in favor of 10.x. Thanks - Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which OS for 2 Handme down Machines - which one(s)? and are they worth it?
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Baha Ata baha...@gmail.com wrote: For G5 10.5, For ibook definetely 10.4... Even one of my powerbook with 1.33 Mhz and 1.25 GB Ram with 167 Mhz data path with 10.5 become slugy... Be aware those ibook's and powerbook's (12inches) uses 4200 rmp drives. 10.4 is good for them. Smaller ram foot print...and lower graphic and data transfer request... Adding Ram will be asset... But Ram+Battery will be arround $100 and more... So think up selling 2 and buying 15.4 inch 1.67 Mhz Powerbook? 2009/5/12 Marty Levine marty.lev...@gmail.com: A friend of mine who has no Mac experience at all was given 2 Mac's by a friend of his wife. He has no idea if they are worth saving/upgrading and I am the only Mac person he knows. The first machine is an iMac. I am guessing from his description it is either an early G5 or 2nd gen G5 iMac but I have not seen the machine yet. He will be bringing it in soon The 2nd machine is a iBook G4 933mhz, 256 mb RAM, 40 GB hard drive, airport extreme, CD-RW/DVD-ROM (combo drive I guess), battery life of maybe 5 mintues - effectively dead. He plans to use these for general purpose machines for the family which includes HS and middle school children. I am not sure he will want to invest much. He will need to buy an OS since we has not given any media. I am suggesting that he have both machines on the same OS so he only needs to learn on version of OSX. Now, the question is which one? For the G5 iMac, my opinion is 10.5 but not sure if that would be too much for the laptop. 10.4 for both? Until I found the dead battery I was going to recommend a 1gb upgrade for the laptop but given the cost of a new battery I am not sure it is worth the investment. Maybe he would be better off selling the iBook, upgrade the iMac and have a better experience with his new Mac? Thanks for your recommendations - Marty Baha Ata Since my friend is totally new to Mac's and will have to buy the OS (LEM Swap List ?) I would think he is better off buying one OS (family pack) than two different versions. Even if he buys 2 copies of the same software, I would think he would want to learn only 1 new operating system. I've been on Mac's since '92 and never had to worrry about running 2 different versions of OS X. It might be overwhelming for a novice to have to struggle with 2 different versions of 10.x Comments on that please? I have already recommended that he delay buying the battery and run the system tehtered by its power cord and concentrate on RAM until he is sure he wants to stay with the Macs. I can't wait to see what version iMac he really has. -- Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which OS for 2 Handme down Machines - which one(s)? and are they worth it?
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Bill Christensen billc_li...@greenbuilder.com wrote: At 7:14 PM -0700 5/11/09, McGrude wrote: The first machine is an iMac. I am guessing from his description it is either an early G5 or 2nd gen G5 iMac but I have not seen the machine yet. He will be bringing it in soon The 2nd machine is a iBook G4 933mhz, 256 mb RAM, 40 GB hard drive, airport extreme, CD-RW/DVD-ROM (combo drive I guess), battery life of maybe 5 mintues - effectively dead. I'd say 10.5 for both. If he keeps the iBook then he'll definitely want to get a battery and a memory upgrade. If it were me I'd put the maximum amount of RAM in both machines, install 10.5 and be happy for a year or two. - Mike I agree. The iBook should do fine with 10.5 if it gets more RAM (as usual, the more the better), but will be molasses without it no matter what version of OSX he puts on it. It'll be a decent machine for email/web/wordprocessing and such that a student should be doing, and fairly slow for things like photoshop and probably lousy for gaming. Which is a good thing IMO. It's old enough that it doesn't scream steal me the way a new 'book would. -- Bill Christensen http://greenbuilder.com/contact/ I'm leaning towards 10.5 as a recommendation as well. If he does not want to spend the money on the laptop it is probably the best choice for providing a good user experience with the newest Safari. I really have no idea what he wants to do with it.Even if the laptop is tethered by a powercord it should be OK for his kids, Unplug it and move it for the next one. Most libraries have outlets if one of them wants to work on it there. I guess I better start pricing for RAM for them and a family copy of Leopard on the swap lists. They can wait on the battery to see if they like it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail oddity
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:13 PM, George Hozendorf ghoze...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 4, 2009, at 4:56 PM, George Hozendorf wrote: - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth When I open Mail it quits before a window opens. I'm not having problems with the two accounts I have under my login. What do you mean move aside Mail's preferences? Since this account had never been set up go into the users Library/ Preferences folder and delete com.apple.Mail.plist ns do not have opinions, merely customs Thanks, Bruce. That did it. Just a quick question about the fix. Why didn't deleted the com.apple.Mail.plist affect the other accounts? From what I can tell, there were two other account already working in Mail. Wouldn't their info be stored in the same plist? JUST WONDERING - Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail oddity
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 7:58 PM, George Hozendorf ghoze...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Marty Levine wrote: On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:13 PM, George Hozendorf ghoze...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 4, 2009, at 4:56 PM, George Hozendorf wrote: - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth When I open Mail it quits before a window opens. I'm not having problems with the two accounts I have under my login. What do you mean move aside Mail's preferences? Since this account had never been set up go into the users Library/ Preferences folder and delete com.apple.Mail.plist ns do not have opinions, merely customs Thanks, Bruce. That did it. Just a quick question about the fix. Why didn't deleted the com.apple.Mail.plist affect the other accounts? From what I can tell, there were two other account already working in Mail. Wouldn't their info be stored in the same plist? JUST WONDERING - Marty I only deleted the plist for that specific user in the users library. I must be missing something. I have 5 mail accounts (addresses) setup for one user. I do not see more than one plist SLAP ON THE SIDE OF THE HEAD - ITS A NEW USER ON THE MAC - NOT AN ADDITIONAL MAIL ACCOUNT FOR AN EXISTING USER. Sorry for the confusion but I have been having problems with some of my email addresses under the same user account and I misread the original post. I was hoping this thread would help my problem - Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: itunes download problem - OT?
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 11:12 AM -0500 12/27/2008, Marty Levine wrote: G4 Powermac LEOPARD 10.5.5 ITUNES 8.0.2 I have lost my ability to download From where to where? Is this something you purchased via the iTunes Store? Or a podcast? or ? the message was generated by itunes for both purchased music and podcasts. I get the following error message There was a problem downloading Another Christmas Song / Another Christmas Song - Single of the Week / Stephen Colbert. You do not have enough access privileges for this operation. Check the console log to see if there is any further information available. i just replicated the failure and there was no entry in the console log This error message occurs on any network. No clue what you mean by the above. home network, public library, friends house, etc. the error also said to make sure your network is active. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: itunes download problem - OT?
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Ron Romine ronrom...@mac.com wrote: On Dec 27, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Marty Levine wrote: I have lost my ability to download - proably for a while since i do not download often I get the following error message There was a problem downloading Another Christmas Song / Another Christmas Song - Single of the Week / Stephen Colbert. You do not have enough access privileges for this operation. Please check that the connection to the network is active and try again. Try logging out of your iTunes account, then signing back in. I remember some reports of problems with being automatically logged in and updating to newer versions of iTunes. - Ron. i log into mt account for every puchase --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes download problem - OT?
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/27/08 11:12 AM, Marty Levine of marty.lev...@gmail.com sent I have lost my ability to download - proably for a while since i do not download often I get the following error message There was a problem downloading Another Christmas Song / Another Christmas Song - Single of the Week / Stephen Colbert. You do not have enough access privileges for this operation. Please check that the connection to the network is active and try again. This error message occurs on any network. Hello Marty, How substantive is this problem? For ex., to see how comprehensive or isolated the problem is, go to, say, VersionTracker and download an app; anything, to see if you get the same error message or not. If isolated, perhaps your Mac simply lost its iTunes account authorization(?) or the iTunes folder needs its read/write privileges refreshed. Just the first thought. Keep us posted, please. Best regards, Dana G4 Powermac LEOPARD 10.5.5 ITUNES 8.0.2 THANKS - Marty p.s. I even tried fixing permissions although I did not expect this to work from everything I have read here on the list Righto! problem is only inside itunes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes download problem - OT?
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/27/08 11:12 AM, Marty Levine of marty.lev...@gmail.com sent I have lost my ability to download - proably for a while since i do not download often I get the following error message There was a problem downloading Another Christmas Song / Another Christmas Song - Single of the Week / Stephen Colbert. You do not have enough access privileges for this operation. Please check that the connection to the network is active and try again. This error message occurs on any network. Hello Marty, How substantive is this problem? For ex., to see how comprehensive or isolated the problem is, go to, say, VersionTracker and download an app; anything, to see if you get the same error message or not. If isolated, perhaps your Mac simply lost its iTunes account authorization(?) or the iTunes folder needs its read/write privileges refreshed. Just the first thought. Keep us posted, please. Best regards, Dana G4 Powermac LEOPARD 10.5.5 ITUNES 8.0.2 THANKS - Marty p.s. I even tried fixing permissions although I did not expect this to work from everything I have read here on the list Righto! problem is only inside itunes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: itunes download problem - OT?
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 3:38 AM -0500 12/28/2008, Marty Levine wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 11:12 AM -0500 12/27/2008, Marty Levine wrote: G4 Powermac LEOPARD 10.5.5 ITUNES 8.0.2 I have lost my ability to download From where to where? Is this something you purchased via the iTunes Store? Or a podcast? or ? the message was generated by itunes for both purchased music and podcasts. I get the following error message There was a problem downloading Another Christmas Song / Another Christmas Song - Single of the Week / Stephen Colbert. You do not have enough access privileges for this operation. Let's make sure it's not talking about HD access... Quit iTunes. Open your iTunes library folder. Make sure there's nothing in the Downloads folder. Trash the Downloads folder then launch iTunes. The default location of this folder is: ~/Music/iTunes/Downloads/ hum. What happens if you have an artist named Downloads? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth - Thanks Dan!!! I did not have WRITE access to the Downloads folder. Corrected that and problem solved. Very easy if you know where to look and Dan knows. - MARTY --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
NEED PRINT AND SCANNING CAPABILITY
Here are my needs * Occasional color printing - very few photos (can go to Walgreens or Wal-Mart for those). I am not a high volume printer for anything even in bw but print a few pages every couple of days. I strongly prefer separate colors since I use the magenta and cyan about 3 times more than yellow. * Semi-frequent scanning but does not need to be HIGH quality * LOW COST to purchase and operate. * Need to print wirelessly from my MacBook Pro running 10.5.5 and also print from a Sawtooth G4. I can share the printer which would be attached to the Sawtooth G4 also running 10.5.5. Alternatively the printer could be attached to a network or be wireless. If necessary I could physically connect the laptop to the printers and scanners since the G4 will be getting less and less use. However I hate to keep plugging and unplugging for fear of damaging my ports on the laptop. * Limited space I was thinking of a low cost multi-function inkjet WITH a low cost bw printer. However, I am concerned that an inkjet printer will clog if used infrequently. I have no objections to a low cost multi-function laser but haven't really seen a low cost one. I still would need a color printer that can sit idle for weeks w/o clogging or drying out. Maybe I should just get a single multi-function inkjet and if that is all I have, it will be used enough it won't dry out. Thoughts or recommendations? Thanks - Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
itunes download problem - OT?
I have lost my ability to download - proably for a while since i do not download often I get the following error message There was a problem downloading Another Christmas Song / Another Christmas Song - Single of the Week / Stephen Colbert. You do not have enough access privileges for this operation. Please check that the connection to the network is active and try again. This error message occurs on any network. G4 Powermac LEOPARD 10.5.5 ITUNES 8.0.2 THANKS - Marty p.s. I even tried fixing permissions although I did not expect this to work from everything I have read here on the list --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard on G4 dual 450 mhz?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 4:43 PM, jonas ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: Tiger will run great. But leopard will run like crap. I used the leopard assist thing on my digital audio 533MHZ. Once I started doing more than one thing it got ow. Don't run leopard -Jonas I'll disagree on that. I'm running Leopard on a 450mhz single processor Sawtooth now with 1 gb RAM but for over a year with only 512 mb RAM. It's definitely slow but it is useable. I installed it on an external hard drive attached to a iBook G4 and then just moed it and connected it to my Sawtooth. Very easy and the external hard drive is faster than the slow internal drive. I find the speed loss compared to Tiger worth the benefit of learning Leopard amd maintaing only 1 OS on all my Macs.. Of course YMMV. Its definttely not as snappy as my MacBook Pro but still very useable for me. Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: External Hard Drives for Mac or PC
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Al Poulin wrote: Do some new external drives have drivers that will not work on Macs at all or with Macs running older versions of OS X? Or do their written minimum requirements refer only to applications that people can do without? No external drive now shipping needs Mac drivers, and they're almost universally formatted as FAT32, which the Mac reads and writes just fine. Actually no USB or Firewire drive that EVER shipped needed Mac drivers, so long as USB or FW support was loaded, from OS 8.6 on, possibly earlier. Most often what's on the CDs is some backup program or Windows 98 drivers. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs Pay attention to Western Digital firewire drives. Not all WD firewire drives are bootable - ESPECIALLY on PPC machines. There is a link on the WD website that lists which drives are not bootable and the specifics. However, I cannot remember where it is on their website. I believe this was posted recently on this list. Good luck - Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading the OS on an iMac700
Marty didn't you have to trick the OS X.5 software to install on less than a 867 processor? I did not need any tricks other than installing Leopard on an external drive attached to a faster iBook G4. Target mode would work too. Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading the OS on an iMac700
Im running 10.5 on an eMac 700 right now and normaly on a 450mhz sawtooth. Its not a speed demon but its useable. Tiger might be faster though. Marty On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:25 AM, aechmea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Jim and others, I wasnt clear enough. My iMac is actually a G4 - the LCD on a stick in the half snowball. I have a feeling that 10.5 will work since it's a G4. But will 10.5 actually work nicely or just plod along. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: System Crash - Spotlight???
Since I Repaired the drive it seems to be running better. Good points here. Wonder if others have had issues with the Newer cases or recommend specific ext HD cases for heat issues. The fan on my NewerStack v2.0 is in the process of failing. Its been running basically 24/7 for 3 years or more. I need to find a replacement fan. Any suggestions for a high quality fan? Marty p.s. Bottom posting is a PITA sometimes but it does make it easier to follow. I do admit that sometimes I forget and top post. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
The application SyncServer quit unexpectedly
I am now regularly getting the error message that SyncSever app is quitting unexpectedly. I believe the exact wording is The application SyncServer quit unexpectedly It is annoying but does not seem to be causing a problem. Something going bad? I am running 10.5.5 on a Sawtooth G4 450mhz with 512 mb RAM. This problem started after the upgrade to 10.5.5 but not sure exactly when. I may have ignored the 1st few times it occurred. This last time i noted that I am running both SAFARI and FIREFOX but neither Mail nor iCal are running. These are the only applications open on the dock. I googled SyncServer and ended up in the Apple Discussion forum and found a message that recommended deleting the following file. ~/Library/Application Support/SyncServices/Local Before I do that, is that the recommended procedure? Which library is that in? Should i reinstall the update? Thanks - Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iBook G4 not booting
Problem resolved for now! and it was not iBook specific - just a general G3-G5 type of problem despited being cautioned I was Off-Topic I brought the laptop and hard drive into this morning's local user group meeting. The problem was a foobared hard drive which we identified by connecting the external hard drive to a G4 Powerbook. It had the same kernel panic, would not mount and even Disk Utility was useless. This ruled out the iBook. However, Disk Warrior was able to rebuild this hard disk and warned it was so severely damaged it could not even give a compare between the original and rebuilt drives. Now to figure out what caused the disk problem - hardware failure or improper handling/shudown procedures. I don't use this computer just maintain it so it will take some time to figure that out. Looks like I need ANOTHER hard drive for backup purposes but it will have to wait for the holiday shopping gift list. On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Marty Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Charles Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 26, 2008, at 11:10 PM, Marty Levine wrote: I have an iBook G4, 1.2 ghz with 768 mb RAM and a Superdrive. This machine has been booting off an external firewire drive for almost a year and is running Leopard since the internal drive failed. What do you get when holding the 'Opt.' (AKA 'Alt') key while booting? Should be a screen with Icons for each bootable system. WAIT for the cursor to return to normal, select the external drive Icon, and hit return. HTH When I boot with the Option key held down I get the following a button with a curved arrow (clockwise) an icon for the external hard drive a button with an arrow pointed to the right So far nothing seems to cause a response other than clicking on the arrow pointing to the right. After that I get the same black screen. I have never used this feature of booting with the Option key before. Is this the normal behavior if there is only one bootable drive available? Chuck D. After power on and the grey Apple logo the computer goes to a black screen with multiple languages and says you must either hold the Power key down for several seconds or press the reset key. Is this the dreaded Kernel Panic? Not knowing where the reset key is on this machine (if it even has one) I have only been able to try the power key. The iBook restarts, and just repeats the same failure mode over and over again. I need guidance in trouble shooting this machine. I am guessing the hard drive has not totally failed because I am not getting a blinking folder to indicate that it can not find an operating system. Is that logic correct? I hope to find my Leopard discs by tomorrow - they were moved from the normal storage place.Then I can try booting from the DVD. Unfortunately I probably won't be able to work on this machine for a week. Thanks for your help - Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iBook G4 not booting
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Charles Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 26, 2008, at 11:10 PM, Marty Levine wrote: I have an iBook G4, 1.2 ghz with 768 mb RAM and a Superdrive. This machine has been booting off an external firewire drive for almost a year and is running Leopard since the internal drive failed. What do you get when holding the 'Opt.' (AKA 'Alt') key while booting? Should be a screen with Icons for each bootable system. WAIT for the cursor to return to normal, select the external drive Icon, and hit return. HTH When I boot with the Option key held down I get the following a button with a curved arrow (clockwise) an icon for the external hard drive a button with an arrow pointed to the right So far nothing seems to cause a response other than clicking on the arrow pointing to the right. After that I get the same black screen. I have never used this feature of booting with the Option key before. Is this the normal behavior if there is only one bootable drive available? Chuck D. After power on and the grey Apple logo the computer goes to a black screen with multiple languages and says you must either hold the Power key down for several seconds or press the reset key. Is this the dreaded Kernel Panic? Not knowing where the reset key is on this machine (if it even has one) I have only been able to try the power key. The iBook restarts, and just repeats the same failure mode over and over again. I need guidance in trouble shooting this machine. I am guessing the hard drive has not totally failed because I am not getting a blinking folder to indicate that it can not find an operating system. Is that logic correct? I hope to find my Leopard discs by tomorrow - they were moved from the normal storage place.Then I can try booting from the DVD. Unfortunately I probably won't be able to work on this machine for a week. Thanks for your help - Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Cheapest AppleCare similar to cheapest software question
I need to buy AppleCare for a MacBook Pro. I have found many places selling low cost versions of AppleCare wihth only a digital code for activation, no box, no Techtools DVD This seems a bit questionable for me - too good to be true,etc. etc. However, are they any reputable low cost Applecare suppliers? I have seen some at LA computer. ( http://www.lacomputercompany.com/cgi-bin/rpcart/index.cgi?command=dispitemtype=skusku=10126 ) I have also seen some on E-Bay that do include the box and Techtools. However some of thiese are WORLDWIDE Applecare and not just for USA. Is this legal and will it be accepted for USA registration by Apple? Thanks - Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Software Update will not download 10.5.5 Update
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 17, 11:07 pm, Marty Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried running Software Update several times. I keep getting the same error message whether I am selecting onle the 10.5.5 update or all available updates. The update Mac OS X Update can't be saved. You do not have appropriate access privileges. The installer package has been moved to the Trash. To try again, open the package from the Finder. I doubt you should have to do this, but are you attempting this from your Admin account? A User account should also work, no? Yes, I was doing this from my Admin account. All the other software updates I selected installed w/o a problem except for 10.5.5 with the error message above. BTW - The combo update to 10.5.5 worked fine just would like to figgure out what went wrong so it does not happen again. After all Macs are just supposed to work! requirements. All subsequent upgrades have been through Software Update on the Sawtooth. I normally download Leopard updates to this machines before I install on our Ibook G4, and MacBook Pro. I do have a current backup through SuperDuper but would expect it to h Just for troubleshooting purposes and curiosity, what happens if you try using Software Update on your newer machines? Al Poulin I do not update my more current machines this early. I like to play the wait and see game on those. This Sawtooth is my PLAY machine so if I muck it up its not htat big a deal. Assuming no glitches get reported for 10.5.5, I will probably update the others in the next two weekends (or so). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Software Update will not download 10.5.5 Update
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Charles Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 18, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Al wrote: On Sep 17, 11:07 pm, Marty Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried running Software Update several times. I keep getting the same error message whether I am selecting onle the 10.5.5 update or all available updates. The update Mac OS X Update can't be saved. You do not have appropriate access privileges. The installer package has been moved to the Trash. To try again, open the package from the Finder. Sorry for the possible confusion --- this is happening with Tiger. Chuck - are you getting this same error message in Tiger? If so, I have the same error message in Leopard. If not - get off my thread! (LOL just kidding) I doubt you should have to do this, but are you attempting this from your Admin account? A User account should also work, no? Just my regular login account Software Update always asks for the Admin. Password' before it does it's thing. requirements. All subsequent upgrades have been through Software Update on the Sawtooth. I normally download Leopard updates to this machines before I install on our Ibook G4, and MacBook Pro. I do have a current backup through SuperDuper but would expect it to h Just for troubleshooting purposes and curiosity, what happens if you try using Software Update on your newer machines? This is on my 'Newer' machine. MDD Dual 1.25, 2GB RAM + as always, struggling with the 'Dial-Up' Internet connection. I have a cable modem - still took me over an hour to download the combo update. Chuck D. Al Poulin Have a nice day - Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Software Update will not download 10.5.5 Update
I have tried running Software Update several times. I keep getting the same error message whether I am selecting onle the 10.5.5 update or all available updates. The update Mac OS X Update can't be saved. You do not have appropriate access privileges. The installer package has been moved to the Trash. To try again, open the package from the Finder. To add insult to injury the Trash is empty. However, the error message occurs almost immediately before one could expect the download to occur. At least I did not waste my time downloading it through Software Update. (As i type, I am downloading the 10.5.5 Combo updater from the support site). I would prefer to do this through Software Update as I have in the past. As expected, Repairing Permissions was useless but I thought I would try anyhow. Any suggestions? Before I get into the machine specifics I will admit I am a little masochistic. I am running Leopard and have been since 10.5.0 or maybe 10.5.1 on a Sawtooth G4. My boot disk is an external firewire drive and 10.5 was installed by connecting the external drive to an iBook G4 that met the Leopard requirements. All subsequent upgrades have been through Software Update on the Sawtooth. I normally download Leopard updates to this machines before I install on our Ibook G4, and MacBook Pro. I do have a current backup through SuperDuper but would expect it to have the same problems since it is synced every 2-3 days automatically. Also, I have the family pack so this copy is fully legal even if not on Apple supported hardware for this OS. Sawtooth G4 450 mhz G4 512 MB Ram (soon to be 1 GB) 250 GB External Firewire Drive 237.74 GB capacity after formatting 72.75 GB available Thanks - Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
