Help Me Please
I was at my computer when it just shut down this time. No power outtage or fluxuation. This is what caught my eye Feb 2 01:13:29 localhost kernel[0]: ROM ndrv for ATY,Rage128y is too old (0xb2943306) Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet: Ethernet address 00:03:93:85:f5:6a Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost launchd: Server 3b07 in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: /usr/sbin/lookupd[40]: exited abnormally: Hangup Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 What does the first one mean? How can I fix it? What does line 3 mean? Never seen it before. Also, I have seen the last one but I have NOTHING drawing power off that damn tower but the tower. I downloaded some pics off my camera but it has its own power supply (a power cord in this case). The DSL modem and Ethernet Hub as well as the USB Hub have their own power supplies as does the Monitor. Ideas? Solutions? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please
On Feb 2, 2011, at 12:30 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I was at my computer when it just shut down this time. No power outtage or fluxuation. This is what caught my eye Feb 2 01:13:29 localhost kernel[0]: ROM ndrv for ATY,Rage128y is too old (0xb2943306) This is simply informational, telling you your card is old. Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet: Ethernet address 00:03:93:85:f5:6a Again, informational. Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost launchd: Server 3b07 in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: /usr/sbin/lookupd[40]: exited abnormally: Hangup lookupd is is a unix daemon that provides a 'central clearinghouse' for many tasks in OS X: http://seminars.apple.com/seminarsonline/activedir/apple/index.html This may or may not be related to the crash. Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 THIS is the vital piece of info...it's telling you exactly that the system, specifically the PMU is forcing the shutdown. Cause = -122 means SOMETHING to the folks at Apple, but they're not sharing, as far as I can tell. Also, I have seen the last one but I have NOTHING drawing power off that damn tower but the tower. I downloaded some pics off my camera but it has its own power supply (a power cord in this case). The DSL modem and Ethernet Hub as well as the USB Hub have their own power supplies as does the Monitor. It could be a faulty PSU, it could be a faulty logic board, it could be a video card drawing too much power. You need to find out what cause= -122 means. A cursory googling does not reveal info. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please
On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:30 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: /usr/sbin/lookupd[40]: exited abnormally: Hangup What does the first one mean? How can I fix it? What does line 3 mean? Never seen it before. There's some sort of bug in lookupd, a kernel process in Tiger 10.4 and lower. A 3rd-party fix has been written, called Unlockupd which should stop this problem. Lookupd was removed from Leopard 10.5, so this fix won't help with Leopard or Snow Leopard, it's only for Tiger and below: http://bafford.com/software/unlockupd/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please
On Feb 2, 1:30 am, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 I was experiencing this error on my PowerMac G5. Going thru this post resolved the issue for me: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/Dual_Core_G5_Shutdowns.html What finally resolved it for me was reseating the power connector on my motherboard. YMMV. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please
Greetings Macintosh: System Error Codes Explained http://support.apple.com/kb/TA44464?viewlocale=en_US Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca (`-''-/).___ ..- -''`.. _ ( 6_ 6 )`-.( ``-._.-`) (_Y_.)'._ ) `._ `.'``-..-' ` `_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' ,-'' ,' (((.-' fl l On Feb 1, 11:30 pm, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: I was at my computer when it just shut down this time. No power outtage or fluxuation. This is what caught my eye Feb 2 01:13:29 localhost kernel[0]: ROM ndrv for ATY,Rage128y is too old (0xb2943306) Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet: Ethernet address 00:03:93:85:f5:6a Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost launchd: Server 3b07 in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: /usr/sbin/lookupd[40]: exited abnormally: Hangup Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 What does the first one mean? How can I fix it? What does line 3 mean? Never seen it before. Also, I have seen the last one but I have NOTHING drawing power off that damn tower but the tower. I downloaded some pics off my camera but it has its own power supply (a power cord in this case). The DSL modem and Ethernet Hub as well as the USB Hub have their own power supplies as does the Monitor. Ideas? Solutions? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please
Check the memory ram compatibility, remove any extra pci card like USB or FireWire, printer or scanner. Kill before the power and push the power for the static and start to remove any dimm of memory ram. Remove the pram batt. E On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:17 PM, gifutiger gifuti...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Macintosh: System Error Codes Explained http://support.apple.com/kb/TA44464?viewlocale=en_US Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca (`-''-/).___ ..- -''`.. _ ( 6_ 6 )`-.( ``-._.-`) (_Y_.)'._ ) `._ `.'``-..-' ` `_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' ,-'' ,' (((.-' fl l On Feb 1, 11:30 pm, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: I was at my computer when it just shut down this time. No power outtage or fluxuation. This is what caught my eye Feb 2 01:13:29 localhost kernel[0]: ROM ndrv for ATY,Rage128y is too old (0xb2943306) Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet: Ethernet address 00:03:93:85:f5:6a Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost launchd: Server 3b07 in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: /usr/sbin/lookupd[40]: exited abnormally: Hangup Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 What does the first one mean? How can I fix it? What does line 3 mean? Never seen it before. Also, I have seen the last one but I have NOTHING drawing power off that damn tower but the tower. I downloaded some pics off my camera but it has its own power supply (a power cord in this case). The DSL modem and Ethernet Hub as well as the USB Hub have their own power supplies as does the Monitor. Ideas? Solutions? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please
remove any dimm of memory ram. Remove the pram batt. Left the the motherboard without batt. For one or two hours and start to test every dimm one by one...turn off set up the next... Turn off and the next REMEMBER KILL ALL THE POWER FIRTS AND DISCHARGE THE STATIC BEFORE TOUCH ANY COMPONENT ! On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:17 PM, gifutiger gifuti...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Macintosh: System Error Codes Explained http://support.apple.com/kb/TA44464?viewlocale=en_US Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca (`-''-/).___ ..- -''`.. _ ( 6_ 6 )`-.( ``-._.-`) (_Y_.)'._ ) `._ `.'``-..-' ` `_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' ,-'' ,' (((.-' fl l On Feb 1, 11:30 pm, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: I was at my computer when it just shut down this time. No power outtage or fluxuation. This is what caught my eye Feb 2 01:13:29 localhost kernel[0]: ROM ndrv for ATY,Rage128y is too old (0xb2943306) Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet: Ethernet address 00:03:93:85:f5:6a Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost launchd: Server 3b07 in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: /usr/sbin/lookupd[40]: exited abnormally: Hangup Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 What does the first one mean? How can I fix it? What does line 3 mean? Never seen it before. Also, I have seen the last one but I have NOTHING drawing power off that damn tower but the tower. I downloaded some pics off my camera but it has its own power supply (a power cord in this case). The DSL modem and Ethernet Hub as well as the USB Hub have their own power supplies as does the Monitor. Ideas? Solutions? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please!
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010/12/29 08:45, Dan wrote: The answer is to use the proper command diskutil eject devicename If for some reason you don't know the proper device name, and it is a tray-loading ODD, you can use: drutil tray open drutil tray close I tried that in Terminal and nothing. It is now not being shown with System Profiler so it either died (not sure if this is it as I saw the CD-ROM icon show up last time I asked about this. Didn't eject then either) or a cable somehow came loose. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On an unrelated note, I'm seeing some new names here now. I really have been gone a while...group's still very much vibrant. On 29/12/10 7:52 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, 2 questions 1) Kitty dumped Diet Pepsi on my (Mac) USB KB. How should I clean it so it can be sued again? In the meantime I am on a new Logitech K120 USb KB. On this beastie (actually it is rather nice) which key combo do I use to reboot? 2) I tried to eject a CD and no go. Which key ejects CDs? If that does not work how can I manually eject this CD? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On 30/12/10 9:30 AM, ah...clem wrote: a dishwasher uses 40 gallons of hot water (heating requires energy) to clean dishes that could be washed more thoroughly by hand using only 2 gallons of water. You have not counted the amount of water used at pre-wash before the dishes are thrown in. What a waste for owners. Meanwhile the folks at the utility companies are running to the bank with joyful tears. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On 31/12/10 8:01 AM, John Carmonne wrote: As far as the green crap goes the waste of the compnent contributes a lot more wasted energy than the renewable water and electricity you use. BTW use the top rack away from the heating and drying coil. Come on John, show some respect. Calling other's good intentions green crap is unkind and unnecessary. You very well could have made your point without use of the insult. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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THE dishwasher. as if everyone has one handy. to some folks, save the environment is more than a feel good bumpersticker to put on their Hummer. a dishwasher uses 40 gallons of hot water (heating requires energy) to clean dishes that could be washed more thoroughly by hand using only 2 gallons of water. Where did you get this silliness? Even a commercial dishwasher only uses 1.5 gallons per cycle (see this link: http://tinyurl.com/ 26248n2). People who want to save water and go easy on the environment use dishwashers. Hand washing dishes in the kitchen sink uses a lot more water than a dishwasher. If you want to go the absolute easiest on the environment, don't wash your dishes at all. Lick them clean. Reminds me of that actress who says you should never use more than one square of toilet paper, to save trees. I can't remember her name, but her nickname is now Stinkyfingers. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
[Closing Thread] Re: Help Me Please!
On Dec 31, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Tom wrote: If you want to go the absolute easiest on the environment, don't wash your dishes at all. Lick them clean. Reminds me of that actress who says you should never use more than one square of toilet paper, to save trees. I can't remember her name, but her nickname is now Stinkyfingers. I do not believe that the above, and other recent messages in this thread, constitute helpful responses to OP's request. New Year's Eve is a good time to close the thread. No more public posts. Please send further comments, whether silly or not, to the OP or a Group Manager by direct private messages. Fabian Fang LEM G-Group Manager -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please!
On 2010/12/29 08:45, Dan wrote: The answer is to use the proper command diskutil eject devicename If for some reason you don't know the proper device name, and it is a tray-loading ODD, you can use: drutil tray open drutil tray close Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Dec 29, 6:33 pm, Judith Berkowitz sfjb...@mac.com wrote: It sounds extreme, but a very effective way to clear keyboard spills is to put the kb upside down on the upper rack of the dishwasher and run it through a cycle. Dry it out thoroughly, as others have advised, and it's perfectly fine. THE dishwasher. as if everyone has one handy. to some folks, save the environment is more than a feel good bumpersticker to put on their Hummer. a dishwasher uses 40 gallons of hot water (heating requires energy) to clean dishes that could be washed more thoroughly by hand using only 2 gallons of water. and when one includes the pre-wash rinsing with loading and unloading the dishwasher, it doesn't actually save that much time. it's just the illusion of affluence and one more example of the obscenely conspicuous consumption that makes amerika SO popular around the world. and btw, simply soaking the keyboard in a little bit of water for a while, followed by a quick rinse with rubbing alcohol or distilled water (to remove traces of minerals that might be left behind when tap water evaporates) also works just fine. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Dec 29, 2:21 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Two days? Two weeks? ROFL Water apparently takes a long time to evaporate in some areas on the planet! I guess it's kind of like the way electrons flow at different speeds off motherboards, when people are told to pull their PRAM battery for 5 minutes, 15 minutes, two hours, overnight, someone who claims to be a psychoceramic emeritus (anyone know WTF that's supposed to mean?) should understand that water does evaporate at different rates, and electrons do flow at different speeds, depending on the environment. the rate of evaporation of any liquid depends on the vapor pressure present in the air in contact with the liquid surface. in the close confined space under the keys of a keyboard where the air does not circulate very well, it can indeed take days or longer to dry thoroughly, and it would also depend on the ambient relative humidity as well. and electrons do indeed flow a different rates, depending on the nature of the media through which they are flowing, so if someone is waiting for every single capacitor on a motherboard to discharge into space or thru an open circuit, it can take days or longer. (or is that only for CRT's?) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please!
On Dec 29, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Dan wrote: At 8:03 PM +0100 12/29/2010, Erik Harperink wrote: Spiliing coke: rinse in water (yes, detach keyboard !) and for the time being leave to try in a warm spot for at least two weeks. Dry the keyboard, and leave it for 2 days in a warm spot. 2 weeks is indeed a long time... Two days? Two weeks? ROFL Water apparently takes a long time to evaporate in some areas on the planet! I guess it's kind of like the way electrons flow at different speeds off motherboards, when people are told to pull their PRAM battery for 5 minutes, 15 minutes, two hours, overnight, Ahh. It's all relative. /me quietly tosses dice around - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- I know when I accidentally went swimming with my iphone, i put it in a ziploc bag of rice with desiccant, and left it in the summer sun for 2 days.. worked ever since then. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Help Me Please!
OK, 2 questions 1) Kitty dumped Diet Pepsi on my (Mac) USB KB. How should I clean it so it can be sued again? In the meantime I am on a new Logitech K120 USb KB. On this beastie (actually it is rather nice) which key combo do I use to reboot? 2) I tried to eject a CD and no go. Which key ejects CDs? If that does not work how can I manually eject this CD? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please!
Op 29-dec-2010, om 15:52 heeft Stephen Conrad het volgende geschreven: OK, 2½ questions 1) Kitty dumped Diet Pepsi on my (Mac) USB KB. How should I clean it so it can be used again? which key combo do I use to reboot? 2) I tried to eject a CD and no go. Which key ejects CDs? If that does not work how can I manually eject this CD? 1) Water and a soft towel?? Don't use a key combo: go to terminal and type reboot (as super user) or sudo reboot (as normal user) and give your user password. 2) Again go to the terminal and type eject (root) or sudo eject as normal user. --- Darwin powermacg3series.local 8.10.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.0: Wed May 23 16:50:59 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.21.3~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please!
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Erik Harperink hbharper...@quicknet.nlwrote: Op 29-dec-2010, om 15:52 heeft Stephen Conrad het volgende geschreven: OK, 2½ questions 1) Kitty dumped Diet Pepsi on my (Mac) USB KB. How should I clean it so it can be used again? which key combo do I use to reboot? 2) I tried to eject a CD and no go. Which key ejects CDs? If that does not work how can I manually eject this CD? 1) Water and a soft towel?? Don't use a key combo: go to terminal and type reboot (as super user) or sudo reboot (as normal user) and give your user password. On my Apple KB I used the key combo to reboot. :) 2) Again go to the terminal and type eject (root) or sudo eject as normal user. Neither ejected the CD-ROM --- Darwin powermacg3series.local 8.10.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.0: Wed May 23 16:50:59 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.21.3~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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Op 29-dec-2010, om 16:19 heeft Stephen Conrad het volgende geschreven: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Erik Harperink hbharper...@quicknet.nl wrote: Op 29-dec-2010, om 15:52 heeft Stephen Conrad het volgende geschreven: OK, 2½ questions 1) Kitty dumped Diet Pepsi on my (Mac) USB KB. How should I clean it so it can be used again? which key combo do I use to reboot? 2) I tried to eject a CD and no go. Which key ejects CDs? If that does not work how can I manually eject this CD? 1) Water and a soft towel?? Don't use a key combo: go to terminal and type reboot (as super user) or sudo reboot (as normal user) and give your user password. On my Apple KB I used the key combo to reboot. :) 2) Again go to the terminal and type eject (root) or sudo eject as normal user. Neither ejected the CD-ROM Hi Stephen, I'll post your question on the MacFreak discussion forum and see if anyone else can come up with an answer. Erik --- Darwin powermacg3series.local 8.10.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.0: Wed May 23 16:50:59 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.21.3~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Dec 29, 2010, at 6:52 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, 2 questions 1) Kitty dumped Diet Pepsi on my (Mac) USB KB. How should I clean it so it can be sued again? In the meantime I am on a new Logitech K120 USb KB. On this beastie (actually it is rather nice) which key combo do I use to reboot? Here is a good link if the keyboard is clear Pro Keyboard. I also soak in 99.9% alcohol and give plenty of dry time. http://www.sterpin.net/uk/prokeyboarduk.htm 2) I tried to eject a CD and no go. Which key ejects CDs? If that does not work how can I manually eject this CD? Hold down the mouse key while booting. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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At 8:52 AM -0600 12/29/2010, Stephen Conrad wrote: 1) Kitty dumped Diet Pepsi on my (Mac) USB KB. How should I clean it so it can be sued again? Yea, that's right, blame it on the cat. Let's face it - you're *terrible* staff. If you'd been doing your job you would have been petting her not farking around on some computer. And what's the deal with the aspertame being near your computer? That stuff is TOXIC! Get it OUT of your HOME! Don't even think of suiing your cat. That's simply unacceptable. WRT using the keyboard again... damp cloth, maybe some rubbing alcohol, might work. Depends on how far the liquid got into the electronics while it had power. You *did* unplug the thing as soon as the spill occurred, right? In the meantime I am on a new Logitech K120 USb KB. On this beastie (actually it is rather nice) which key combo do I use to reboot? None of the Logitech keyboards I've used can boot a Mac. They just don't have the logic for it. 2) I tried to eject a CD and no go. Which key ejects CDs? If that does not work how can I manually eject this CD? My Logitech has a nice eject button in the upper right corner. But like all the other special buttons, it only works when LCC is running. You could just drag the disc to the trash. Or do a 'diskutil eject' command from Terminal. Or boot and hold down the mouse button... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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At 4:23 PM +0100 12/29/2010, Erik Harperink wrote: Again go to the terminal and type eject (root) or sudo eject as normal user. Neither ejected the CD-ROM I'll post your question on the MacFreak discussion forum and see if anyone else can come up with an answer. The answer is to use the proper command diskutil eject devicename The command man diskutil will give details. There is no 'eject' command in the shell. There is, however, one in the firmware... easier to just hold down the mouse button tho. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:02 AM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Dec 29, 2010, at 6:52 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, 2 questions 1) Kitty dumped Diet Pepsi on my (Mac) USB KB. How should I clean it so it can be sued again? In the meantime I am on a new Logitech K120 USb KB. On this beastie (actually it is rather nice) which key combo do I use to reboot? Here is a good link if the keyboard is clear Pro Keyboard. I also soak in 99.9% alcohol and give plenty of dry time. http://www.sterpin.net/uk/prokeyboarduk.htm It says Apple USB Keyboard Model No. M2452 AP94903WHGX 2) I tried to eject a CD and no go. Which key ejects CDs? If that does not work how can I manually eject this CD? Hold down the mouse key while booting. Will try that next time I reboot (I just did earlier) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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At 7:02 AM -0800 12/29/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Here is a good link if the keyboard is clear Pro Keyboard. I also soak in 99.9% alcohol and give plenty of dry time. A good point there. Daubing spots with rubbing alcohol, plus dry time, is ok. But to really do the job heavily, rubbing alcohol is Bad -- too much water. So go with the real thing... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Dec 29, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Dan wrote: At 7:02 AM -0800 12/29/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Here is a good link if the keyboard is clear Pro Keyboard. I also soak in 99.9% alcohol and give plenty of dry time. A good point there. Daubing spots with rubbing alcohol, plus dry time, is ok. But to really do the job heavily, rubbing alcohol is Bad -- too much water. So go with the real thing... And of course there is good ol' WD-40... JT Banks Forced to Forgive Credit Card Debt Find Out How Much of Your Debt Can Be Erased. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4d1b62f4333d73a576cst05vuc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: 2) I tried to eject a CD and no go. Which key ejects CDs? If that does not work how can I manually eject this CD? A while back (August ??) someone had a post on the G-3-5-list which explained how to add an eject icon to the OS X top menu bar. The instructions were to look in System\Library\CoreServices\Menu Extras and double click on Eject.menu. This should add an eject icon to the menu bar which you can use to eject a disc. As for rebooting, I'm confused. Does pressing the power on/off button no longer bring up the shutdown dialog? -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:44 AM, iJohn zjboyguard-ggro...@yahoo.com wrote: As for rebooting, I'm confused. Does pressing the power on/off button no longer bring up the shutdown dialog? DUH! I'm an idiot. Here I am explaining how to add an eject icon to the menu bar and I completely forget that there is also a Shut Down selection in the Apple icon's pull-down menu. Guess I'm just too used to using the power button to do it ... -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Dec 29, 9:52 am, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to eject a CD and no go. Which key ejects CDs? If that does not work how can I manually eject this CD? The easiest way is to put the Eject icon in your menubar, then you can easily control the open/close/eject functions. Navigate to System Library CoreServices Menu Extras, double-click on the icon called Eject.menu; you will see an eject icon appear in your menubar. I don't know about the whole world but bunnies were on the verge of taking over my yard until I started grilling them- tastes like chicken! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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-Original Message- From: Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com Sent: December 29, 2010 8:52 AM To: g3-5-list g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Help Me Please! OK, 2 questions 1) Kitty dumped Diet Pepsi on my (Mac) USB KB. How should I clean it so it can be sued again? In the meantime I am on a new Logitech K120 USb KB. On this beastie (actually it is rather nice) which key combo do I use to reboot? 2) I tried to eject a CD and no go. Which key ejects CDs? If that does not work how can I manually eject this CD? I believe that on a non-Apple keyboard, holding down the F12 key will eject the CD. Don't just press it-you need to hold it down for a few seconds. I don't think F12 works that way on Apple keyboards. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Dec 29, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Eric Volker wrote: 2) I tried to eject a CD and no go. Which key ejects CDs? If that does not work how can I manually eject this CD? I believe that on a non-Apple keyboard, holding down the F12 key will eject the CD. Don't just press it-you need to hold it down for a few seconds. I don't think F12 works that way on Apple keyboards. On keyboards without a dedicated eject key F12 does. In 10.4 or later you have to hold the key down for a couple seconds, otherwise you simply activate Dashboard. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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Op 29-dec-2010, om 15:52 heeft Stephen Conrad het volgende geschreven: OK, 2 questions 1) Kitty dumped Diet Pepsi on my (Mac) USB KB. How should I clean it so it can be sued again? In the meantime I am on a new Logitech K120 USb KB. On this beastie (actually it is rather nice) which key combo do I use to reboot? 2) I tried to eject a CD and no go. Which key ejects CDs? If that does not work how can I manually eject this CD? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval Two replies from the MacFreak discussion forum (translated from Dutch into English): Spilling coke and rebooting and ejecting the cd. What have you done joh! Spiliing coke: rinse in water (yes, detach keyboard !) and for the time being leave to try in a warm spot for at least two weeks. A new ketboard ($ 30) may be an easier fix in these circumstances. Rebooten: PRAM-reset CD uitwerpen: restart mac and keep mouse button pressed . Second reply: Coke, immediately rinse with lukewarm water. Current needs to be switched off, so with a USB keyboard untie cable, and with a wireless keyboard take out the batteries. And don't wait too long before doing so. Dry the keyboard, and leave it for 2 days in a warm spot. 2 weeks is indeed a long time... --- Darwin powermacg3series.local 8.10.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.0: Wed May 23 16:50:59 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.21.3~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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At 8:03 PM +0100 12/29/2010, Erik Harperink wrote: Spiliing coke: rinse in water (yes, detach keyboard !) and for the time being leave to try in a warm spot for at least two weeks. Dry the keyboard, and leave it for 2 days in a warm spot. 2 weeks is indeed a long time... Two days? Two weeks? ROFL Water apparently takes a long time to evaporate in some areas on the planet! I guess it's kind of like the way electrons flow at different speeds off motherboards, when people are told to pull their PRAM battery for 5 minutes, 15 minutes, two hours, overnight, Ahh. It's all relative. /me quietly tosses dice around - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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Stephen Conrad wrote: 1) Kitty dumped Diet Pepsi on my (Mac) USB KB. How should I clean it so it can be sued again? I don't believe that US law allows one to file suit against a keyboard. ;-) Smart-arse, Drew -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Erik Harperink hbharper...@quicknet.nl wrote: A new keyboard ($ 30) may be an easier fix in these circumstances. Not sure if these are a match for what the OP needs, but amazon marketplace has some sellers offering used keyboards for $15-$20 (And for more of course. You can always pay more if you want. ;-) http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Translucent-97-Key-Keyboard-PowerMac/dp/B000EQFQI6 FWIW (which may well be nothing), -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Dec 29, 6:52 am, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Kitty dumped Diet Pepsi on my (Mac) USB KB. How should I clean it so it can be sued again? The good part is that it's a diet drink - no sugar. It sounds extreme, but a very effective way to clear keyboard spills is to put the kb upside down on the upper rack of the dishwasher and run it through a cycle. Dry it out thoroughly, as others have advised, and it's perfectly fine. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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It sounds extreme, but a very effective way to clear keyboard spills is to put the kb upside down on the upper rack of the dishwasher and run it through a cycle. Dry it out thoroughly, as others have advised, and it's perfectly fine. The dishwasher works fine for me if I disassemble the keyboard first and give a long time to dry. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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Hey wipe it down real good, and take a cloth with water (damp) and clean the soda off, then let it dry good. It should work fine. --- On Wed, 12/29/10, Andrew Liu Anderson ma...@lonepineradio.net wrote: From: Andrew Liu Anderson ma...@lonepineradio.net Subject: Re: Help Me Please! To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 29, 2010, 5:07 PM Stephen Conrad wrote: 1) Kitty dumped Diet Pepsi on my (Mac) USB KB. How should I clean it so it can be sued again? I don't believe that US law allows one to file suit against a keyboard. ;-) Smart-arse, Drew -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
