Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick?
Yah, had a friend when i lived in los angeles that had a racing setup in an old bathtub he had padded out, with a huge subwoofer underneath and dolby 5.1 around the tub, and his steering wheel mounted inside the tub with a big friggin monitor on a custom platform. His racing wheel was a custom aluminum job, cost over a thousand dollars, and had a clutch as well, although as I remember there was only one racing game at the time that would take advantage of the clutch. He was so dedicated to realism he wore gloves and a helmet while racing, the dude was into it. I used to be in an online racing league with him, and he was by far the best of us all, in both oval track and road courses. Those online racing leagues were a total blast, because all the guys in them were die hard racing fans, like myself. Speaking of, wonder what I can get an antique bathtub for on eBay... - Original Message - From: "Cory Kadlik" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? never seen one with a clutch. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: "Constantine" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I used to have a sidewinder steering wheel too. It was good but I never really got the hang of using it. I loved the gas pedal and break, but what I'd love is a racing wheel with an actual gear shift - though its probably way out of my price range. I hear there are real life driving games with wheels with a clutch, break, and gas pedal. Now that would be fun. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "James Dietz" To: "The Kolesar Brothers" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I use a logitec wingman rumblepad. As the name implies the controller includes motors for force feedback. You need to install the software from the cd or internet in order for games to pick up on its force feedback qualities. It's a nice gimic but the rumble isn't very powerful. I got the controller cerca 2001. It looks kind of like a hybrid between the ps2 and dreamcast/xbox1 controllers - two wacky looking protrusions out front, 2 decent (if a little flimsy) analog sticks, 6 main buttons (which are a little small), a d-pad and a few other buttons for switching control from d-pad to left analog stick and back and toggling force feedback on/off. It isn't the best controller - I used to have a microsoft sidewinder whose buttons and dpad were a little more solid and big - but it's fun to use with games especially top speed. One advantage resultant of joystick use in-game is that you don't have to shut down your screenreader (and in some cases, you don't even have to have the game window in focus - I can play topspeed while chatting in an msn window though I won't be able to hear the other cars on the track). James On 5/5/09, The Kolesar Brothers wrote: Most of us, myself included are using the sgz2909 retractable controller by philips. Hope this helps you out. Ron and Leader dog boz who said that a dog beats a cane any day of the week. Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! kolesar16...@roadrunner.com - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I'd appreciate that as well. I'd like to buy a racing wheel for the racing games and at some point a joystick for other games. I want you...to go upstairs...and kill that boy! - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:54 AM Subject: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I really want to buy one of these. Any ideas? Also if you have a site where I can buy it from it'll be even better. thanks guys! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at ht
Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick?
never seen one with a clutch. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: "Constantine" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I used to have a sidewinder steering wheel too. It was good but I never really got the hang of using it. I loved the gas pedal and break, but what I'd love is a racing wheel with an actual gear shift - though its probably way out of my price range. I hear there are real life driving games with wheels with a clutch, break, and gas pedal. Now that would be fun. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "James Dietz" To: "The Kolesar Brothers" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I use a logitec wingman rumblepad. As the name implies the controller includes motors for force feedback. You need to install the software from the cd or internet in order for games to pick up on its force feedback qualities. It's a nice gimic but the rumble isn't very powerful. I got the controller cerca 2001. It looks kind of like a hybrid between the ps2 and dreamcast/xbox1 controllers - two wacky looking protrusions out front, 2 decent (if a little flimsy) analog sticks, 6 main buttons (which are a little small), a d-pad and a few other buttons for switching control from d-pad to left analog stick and back and toggling force feedback on/off. It isn't the best controller - I used to have a microsoft sidewinder whose buttons and dpad were a little more solid and big - but it's fun to use with games especially top speed. One advantage resultant of joystick use in-game is that you don't have to shut down your screenreader (and in some cases, you don't even have to have the game window in focus - I can play topspeed while chatting in an msn window though I won't be able to hear the other cars on the track). James On 5/5/09, The Kolesar Brothers wrote: Most of us, myself included are using the sgz2909 retractable controller by philips. Hope this helps you out. Ron and Leader dog boz who said that a dog beats a cane any day of the week. Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! kolesar16...@roadrunner.com - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I'd appreciate that as well. I'd like to buy a racing wheel for the racing games and at some point a joystick for other games. I want you...to go upstairs...and kill that boy! - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:54 AM Subject: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I really want to buy one of these. Any ideas? Also if you have a site where I can buy it from it'll be even better. thanks guys! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
[Audyssey] fs podcast
Hi. this message is for nick helms rather than anyone else but I put it out anyway here just in case others have info. Nick you canceled the cast for flight sim. Its supposed to be reschedualed or at least I think you said it was, Just wandered when you were going to put this online so i could join in the live cast. On that note at some point this month and for the next 2-3 months I will have some testing work which means not as much commenting for a little although I will have fridays off. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick?
Any links where I can purchase this? I also noticed there's a 2910 version that's apparently wireless, but it seems to be sold out as well. - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:03 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I use the same controller, and it seems to be a good one. It is the only one I've ever tried, though, and I still do not use it all that much just because I'm not in the habit of doing so. --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: "Bryan Mckinnish" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? Hi. I use the sgz2909 retractable controler by philips. I'm going to use that with moc1 tts. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] For all blind pilot love to be.
hmmm actually if you dropped the 1024 by 768 monitor etc you only really need a 3d card that supports open gl. they don't say how high. As for memmory our duel cure 2ghz with 1gb ram will actually do nicely for fast performance in fact a 1ghz system with 300mb ram would run it, well 512 should I say. a single core probably would run it if at least slow. there is however no mention of sound in the game at all. The game is much cheaper than fs, about 40 bucks us per version, so about 100 here which thinking about it is not as bad as ms fs is costing. At 03:36 p.m. 6/05/2009, you wrote: >Interesting if this could pan out. >Mind you I bet the requirements are high - high end video card would be the >least of them. > > > >contact details: > >email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca > >and others >msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com >skype: the_conman283 > >system details: >Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc >AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu >100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio >- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:39 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] For all blind pilot love to be. > > >>hmmm x-plane eh? >>I would like to be a pilot hmmm if ms is going to x plane interesting. >>At 11:55 a.m. 6/05/2009, you wrote: >>>Yep. This is also for the Mac, too, so it'd be awesome if this could >>>somehow become blind friendly with some ad-ons. >>>On May 5, 2009, at 6:53 PM, The Kolesar Brothers wrote: >>> Hi to all, from Ron and Boz. For those working on the MSFS coversion to make it blind friendly. I just was out to the x-plane web page at www.x-plane.com From what I've read x-plane it taking over MSFS. But I could have >missread the article. If we could get x-plane blind friendly. You not only could learn to fly but we space buffs could fly the space shuttle. Any chance to take a look at this program? We can down load a demo of the x-plane program to play with to see if we could get it to be blind friendly or not. It just was a suggestion for blind pilot love to be everywhere. Ron who isn't a programer but will help out when and where ever he can. I hope this takes off excuse the bun. Ron and Leader Dog Boz class 0409 Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >>> >>>--- >>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick?
well I tried my other controler and the sensitivity was just not there. the arrow controls did not even work right then again its so old I got this in 1996 so its probably busted it was a cheapy anyway. I don't use my controlers that much. At 04:03 p.m. 6/05/2009, you wrote: >I use the same controller, and it seems to be a good one. It is the only one >I've ever tried, though, and I still do not use it all that much just because >I'm not in the habit of doing so. >--- >In God we trust! >- Original Message - From: "Bryan Mckinnish" >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 1:53 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? > > >>Hi. >>I use the sgz2909 retractable controler by philips. >>I'm going to use that with moc1 tts. >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick?
I can't find this thing anywhere. anyone got a url handy where it is? Thanks!! CJ - Original Message - From: "The Kolesar Brothers" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? Most of us, myself included are using the sgz2909 retractable controller by philips. Hope this helps you out. Ron and Leader dog boz who said that a dog beats a cane any day of the week. Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! kolesar16...@roadrunner.com - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I'd appreciate that as well. I'd like to buy a racing wheel for the racing games and at some point a joystick for other games. I want you...to go upstairs...and kill that boy! - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:54 AM Subject: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I really want to buy one of these. Any ideas? Also if you have a site where I can buy it from it'll be even better. thanks guys! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Football and Vista?
Interesting, I haven't got that error before. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Steve" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 5:51 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Football and Vista? Hello Jim I tried to play football today and was able to get to the point of the first kick off and I get this error message: Runtime Error 13 Type Mismatch Steve Walker --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] For all blind pilot love to be.
Interesting if this could pan out. Mind you I bet the requirements are high - high end video card would be the least of them. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] For all blind pilot love to be. hmmm x-plane eh? I would like to be a pilot hmmm if ms is going to x plane interesting. At 11:55 a.m. 6/05/2009, you wrote: Yep. This is also for the Mac, too, so it'd be awesome if this could somehow become blind friendly with some ad-ons. On May 5, 2009, at 6:53 PM, The Kolesar Brothers wrote: Hi to all, from Ron and Boz. For those working on the MSFS coversion to make it blind friendly. I just was out to the x-plane web page at www.x-plane.com From what I've read x-plane it taking over MSFS. But I could have missread the article. If we could get x-plane blind friendly. You not only could learn to fly but we space buffs could fly the space shuttle. Any chance to take a look at this program? We can down load a demo of the x-plane program to play with to see if we could get it to be blind friendly or not. It just was a suggestion for blind pilot love to be everywhere. Ron who isn't a programer but will help out when and where ever he can. I hope this takes off excuse the bun. Ron and Leader Dog Boz class 0409 Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick?
I used to have a sidewinder steering wheel too. It was good but I never really got the hang of using it. I loved the gas pedal and break, but what I'd love is a racing wheel with an actual gear shift - though its probably way out of my price range. I hear there are real life driving games with wheels with a clutch, break, and gas pedal. Now that would be fun. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "James Dietz" To: "The Kolesar Brothers" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I use a logitec wingman rumblepad. As the name implies the controller includes motors for force feedback. You need to install the software from the cd or internet in order for games to pick up on its force feedback qualities. It's a nice gimic but the rumble isn't very powerful. I got the controller cerca 2001. It looks kind of like a hybrid between the ps2 and dreamcast/xbox1 controllers - two wacky looking protrusions out front, 2 decent (if a little flimsy) analog sticks, 6 main buttons (which are a little small), a d-pad and a few other buttons for switching control from d-pad to left analog stick and back and toggling force feedback on/off. It isn't the best controller - I used to have a microsoft sidewinder whose buttons and dpad were a little more solid and big - but it's fun to use with games especially top speed. One advantage resultant of joystick use in-game is that you don't have to shut down your screenreader (and in some cases, you don't even have to have the game window in focus - I can play topspeed while chatting in an msn window though I won't be able to hear the other cars on the track). James On 5/5/09, The Kolesar Brothers wrote: Most of us, myself included are using the sgz2909 retractable controller by philips. Hope this helps you out. Ron and Leader dog boz who said that a dog beats a cane any day of the week. Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! kolesar16...@roadrunner.com - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I'd appreciate that as well. I'd like to buy a racing wheel for the racing games and at some point a joystick for other games. I want you...to go upstairs...and kill that boy! - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:54 AM Subject: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I really want to buy one of these. Any ideas? Also if you have a site where I can buy it from it'll be even better. thanks guys! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you wan
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
I agree. I sure do appreciate this since you get no money out of this and are doing this out of the goodness of your heart. Grins. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Hi Jim, Well, it is true that the Logitec Momo Racing Wheel costs a fair amount of change but I know there are cheaper racing wheels out there. I've seen a couple now and then under $50 so as long as those cheaper moddels work, which I think they would, it is not really that big an investment for some of us on the list. Anyway, i think you are making the right decision for the game. It is your game, and you should create it exactly how you like it. If others don't like it, have a problem wih it, it is there problem. It is not as though you have charged them money to play it, and therefore owe them upgrades, extra features, or whatever might come with a commercial product. Smile. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi, Thank you all for your Mach 1 tts comments and suggestions. I know that the Logitech MOMO Racing controller is not cheap. It costs like $100.00. I'm sure that allot of people are not going to or can not spend that kind of money for a specific game controller. I got half of it as a gift and paid for the other half. Then I learned the VB6 joystick code. So I then wanted to write a game that used the steering wheel and was as close to being like real driving as I could make it. So I am not going to dumb down the game for the keyboard. I am sorry that the game will probably not be as much fun with a non steering wheel controller and even less so with the keyboard, but hey I could have written it and just kept it for myself. Thanks again and BFN Jim --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
It would also work good if a person was on a trip and had bearly any space, and could use a laptops touch pad (though its not as nice as a real mouse, it does get the job done). contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Che" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Yah, Jim might think about including mouse support for Mach 1, it wouldn't take long at all to convert his hoystick code to mouse input and allow the user to select which one they want. the mouse works great for rail racer, no reason why it wouldn't work equally well for any racing game, and just about everyone out there that has bought a computer has received a mouse with it. later che - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Hi, Yeah, Rail Racer supports racing wheels. While Rail Racer seams to be fairly mouse oriented it works equally well with the wheel too. Having seen that support in Rail Racer and Topspeed I'm rather interested to see the new Mach 1. Ryan Strunk wrote: Why pay for the wheel? Because it will work for Mach 1, it does work for Top Speed, and it's supposed to work for Raceway. Sorry Che but I've been a mouse user for Rail Racer, so I'm not sure if it works for that, too. If they don't want to pay 20 dollars for a controller for a free game, then they don't have to play the free game. I might possibly understand them getting mad if the game cost 50 dollars and they still had to buy that controller, but come on. The game is free. Besides which, we need to get with the times. Ryan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
Wow, that's crazy...think I'll invest in a controller, snickers. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: "Charles Rivard" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts To get a similar effect using keys you would need to use something like the whole numbers row. 1 would be speed 2 2 speed 4 3 speed 8 4 speed 16 5 speed 32 6 speed 64 7 speed 128 8 speed 256 9 speed 512 0 speed 1024 Just the number moves you forward the number plus shift would move you left the number plus control would move you right the number plus shift and control would reverse your direction. So 11 keys could do what one joystick or mouse could do. Phil - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Would minus 5,000 be moving backward at full speed, then? I can see the advantages to joystick movement and action when you described it as you did. How about having to type -5000 to determine your movement during a fast action game? (evil grin) In other words, "No way, Jose!" --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Hi, It isn't an issue of annalogue verses digital devices. it has to do with how operating systems and programs recieve input from those devices. Keyboards return a key pressed or key released state back to the operating system or program polling it. Since a key can only be held down or released there isn't any other state the key can be in. This is different from a joystick that has a wide range of motion and movements left, right, back, foward, or a combination of these. Obviously, since the joystick has such a wide degree of movement you can program much more complex tasks for it. If you wanted a player to run using a keyboard pressing up arrow might start him walking. Add a shift or control key and he breaks out into a run. This works, but you don't get a lot of control over speed other than a walk or a run because a key can only be pressed or released. Now, on a joystick since the y axis has a range of -5000 to 5000 you can speed up or slow down based on the y axis. If the axis is 0 the player is stopped. If you push the stick foward or backward the closer you get to -5000 or 5000 you can continue adding speed and momentum until the player reaches the proper speed. This gives you a huge advantage over the keyboard because you have a steady increase from standing still to an all out run. Much smoother, realistic, and advance than the clunky keyboard method. HTH --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.19/2099 - Release Date: 05/05/09 13:07:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
Ah, thanks for that, helped quite a lot in understanding the limmitations of a keyboard. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Hi, It isn't an issue of annalogue verses digital devices. it has to do with how operating systems and programs recieve input from those devices. Keyboards return a key pressed or key released state back to the operating system or program polling it. Since a key can only be held down or released there isn't any other state the key can be in. This is different from a joystick that has a wide range of motion and movements left, right, back, foward, or a combination of these. Obviously, since the joystick has such a wide degree of movement you can program much more complex tasks for it. If you wanted a player to run using a keyboard pressing up arrow might start him walking. Add a shift or control key and he breaks out into a run. This works, but you don't get a lot of control over speed other than a walk or a run because a key can only be pressed or released. Now, on a joystick since the y axis has a range of -5000 to 5000 you can speed up or slow down based on the y axis. If the axis is 0 the player is stopped. If you push the stick foward or backward the closer you get to -5000 or 5000 you can continue adding speed and momentum until the player reaches the proper speed. This gives you a huge advantage over the keyboard because you have a steady increase from standing still to an all out run. Much smoother, realistic, and advance than the clunky keyboard method. HTH --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick?
I was just looking on EBay and you can get a new Logitech Momo force feedback wheel and pedals for around $65 or so, not really all that bad! Steve Walker - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? h I did some doodling with my wingman force 3d. Either I have a dud but I can't get things centred or rather the stick is just to darn sensitive for my liking. plus I can only do so many things at once. Its got loads of power in the moters, but games I tried are just not that good for it. topspeed and railracer may be although I use the mouse for rr and the keyboard for ts. sod as I said things spin round all the time slowly like its not calibrated, on that note how does one calibrate these things I followed the instructions but I don't know exactly what I really need to do to get things going with it. I here ffb sticks don't have the prosition centering feature defined as well as other sticks. my sighted friends say its hard to centre the stick. If say troopinam or something has controls for the stick I run out of buttons and 2 of them are at the extreme back so I'd have to use the board and stick at the same time and its a bit impractical right now. So I suspect I won't be playing with a stick. or at least that one. I have a simple non force feadback stick here a simple usb side winder I got for 20 bucks. this has the basic centre game pad stick control like a cross for up down left and right, 4 buttons on the top right and 2 sets of r1 and 2 buttons on left and right like the old ps1 controlers. its not ffb however its got 8 buttons as supposed to the ffb stick I have which has 6. it does mean that I will have no keyboard control but means I can map more buttons. and I may actually use one of these. I don't have the cash to get any extra things. maybe if I sell my controlers one of these days I may have the cash for something although this is the last time i will get an actual stick, I think my next controler will be a game pad or maybe an xbox 360 unit or something like that with 2 sticks and the rest. Feadback is good but I don't know. At 12:07 p.m. 6/05/2009, you wrote: I use a logitec wingman rumblepad. As the name implies the controller includes motors for force feedback. You need to install the software from the cd or internet in order for games to pick up on its force feedback qualities. It's a nice gimic but the rumble isn't very powerful. I got the controller cerca 2001. It looks kind of like a hybrid between the ps2 and dreamcast/xbox1 controllers - two wacky looking protrusions out front, 2 decent (if a little flimsy) analog sticks, 6 main buttons (which are a little small), a d-pad and a few other buttons for switching control from d-pad to left analog stick and back and toggling force feedback on/off. It isn't the best controller - I used to have a microsoft sidewinder whose buttons and dpad were a little more solid and big - but it's fun to use with games especially top speed. One advantage resultant of joystick use in-game is that you don't have to shut down your screenreader (and in some cases, you don't even have to have the game window in focus - I can play topspeed while chatting in an msn window though I won't be able to hear the other cars on the track). James On 5/5/09, The Kolesar Brothers wrote: Most of us, myself included are using the sgz2909 retractable controller by philips. Hope this helps you out. Ron and Leader dog boz who said that a dog beats a cane any day of the week. Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! kolesar16...@roadrunner.com - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I'd appreciate that as well. I'd like to buy a racing wheel for the racing games and at some point a joystick for other games. I want you...to go upstairs...and kill that boy! - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:54 AM Subject: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I really want to buy one of these. Any ideas? Also if you have a site where I can buy it from it'll be even better. thanks guys! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-uns
Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick?
I use the same controller, and it seems to be a good one. It is the only one I've ever tried, though, and I still do not use it all that much just because I'm not in the habit of doing so. --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: "Bryan Mckinnish" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? Hi. I use the sgz2909 retractable controler by philips. I'm going to use that with moc1 tts. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] For all blind pilot love to be.
hmmm x-plane eh? I would like to be a pilot hmmm if ms is going to x plane interesting. At 11:55 a.m. 6/05/2009, you wrote: >Yep. This is also for the Mac, too, so it'd be awesome if this could >somehow become blind friendly with some ad-ons. >On May 5, 2009, at 6:53 PM, The Kolesar Brothers wrote: > >>Hi to all, from Ron and Boz. >>For those working on the MSFS coversion to make it blind friendly. >>I just was out to the x-plane web page at >>www.x-plane.com >>>From what I've read x-plane it taking over MSFS. But I could have >>>missread >>the article. >>If we could get x-plane blind friendly. You not only could learn to >>fly but >>we space buffs could fly the space shuttle. >>Any chance to take a look at this program? >>We can down load a demo of the x-plane program to play with to see >>if we >>could get it to be blind friendly or not. >>It just was a suggestion for blind pilot love to be everywhere. >>Ron who isn't a programer but will help out when and where ever he >>can. >>I hope this takes off excuse the bun. >>Ron and Leader Dog Boz class 0409 >>Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! >> >>kolesar16...@roadrunner.com >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org >>. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of >>the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick?
h I did some doodling with my wingman force 3d. Either I have a dud but I can't get things centred or rather the stick is just to darn sensitive for my liking. plus I can only do so many things at once. Its got loads of power in the moters, but games I tried are just not that good for it. topspeed and railracer may be although I use the mouse for rr and the keyboard for ts. sod as I said things spin round all the time slowly like its not calibrated, on that note how does one calibrate these things I followed the instructions but I don't know exactly what I really need to do to get things going with it. I here ffb sticks don't have the prosition centering feature defined as well as other sticks. my sighted friends say its hard to centre the stick. If say troopinam or something has controls for the stick I run out of buttons and 2 of them are at the extreme back so I'd have to use the board and stick at the same time and its a bit impractical right now. So I suspect I won't be playing with a stick. or at least that one. I have a simple non force feadback stick here a simple usb side winder I got for 20 bucks. this has the basic centre game pad stick control like a cross for up down left and right, 4 buttons on the top right and 2 sets of r1 and 2 buttons on left and right like the old ps1 controlers. its not ffb however its got 8 buttons as supposed to the ffb stick I have which has 6. it does mean that I will have no keyboard control but means I can map more buttons. and I may actually use one of these. I don't have the cash to get any extra things. maybe if I sell my controlers one of these days I may have the cash for something although this is the last time i will get an actual stick, I think my next controler will be a game pad or maybe an xbox 360 unit or something like that with 2 sticks and the rest. Feadback is good but I don't know. At 12:07 p.m. 6/05/2009, you wrote: >I use a logitec wingman rumblepad. As the name implies the controller >includes motors for force feedback. You need to install the software >from the cd or internet in order for games to pick up on its force >feedback qualities. It's a nice gimic but the rumble isn't very >powerful. I got the controller cerca 2001. It looks kind of like a >hybrid between the ps2 and dreamcast/xbox1 controllers - two wacky >looking protrusions out front, 2 decent (if a little flimsy) analog >sticks, 6 main buttons (which are a little small), a d-pad and a few >other buttons for switching control from d-pad to left analog stick >and back and toggling force feedback on/off. It isn't the best >controller - I used to have a microsoft sidewinder whose buttons and >dpad were a little more solid and big - but it's fun to use with games >especially top speed. One advantage resultant of joystick use in-game >is that you don't have to shut down your screenreader (and in some >cases, you don't even have to have the game window in focus - I can >play topspeed while chatting in an msn window though I won't be able >to hear the other cars on the track). > >James > >On 5/5/09, The Kolesar Brothers wrote: >> Most of us, myself included are using the sgz2909 retractable controller by >> philips. >> Hope this helps you out. >> Ron and Leader dog boz who said that a dog beats a cane any day of the week. >> Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! >> >> kolesar16...@roadrunner.com >> - Original Message - >> From: "Bryan Peterson" >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? >> >> >> I'd appreciate that as well. I'd like to buy a racing wheel for the racing >> games and at some point a joystick for other games. >> I want you...to go upstairs...and kill that boy! >> - Original Message - >> From: "Yohandy" >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:54 AM >> Subject: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? >> >> >>>I really want to buy one of these. Any ideas? Also if you have a site where >>>I can buy it from it'll be even better. thanks guys! >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and
Re: [Audyssey] For all blind pilot love to be.
That would be cool. I’ve never looked at the program. But just from what you’ve said, it sounds sweet. Just a quick update about the pocast we were going to do to demo fs 2002 We are still planning on doing the podcast. We just are trying to find the time to sit down and demo it. So once that’s done, we’ll get it over to you guys. Trust me, you’ll be the first to know! So look forward to that soon! I would say, if you really want to get in to using this when we do the podcast, buy a copy of Microsoft Flight simulator now. That way, when we make the podcast, you can just jump right in! So that’s at least something you start to do if you’re really in to this. We’ll do the podcast really soon and if you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to get in touch with me. nick.he...@gmail.com off-list, or you can simply respond to this. Have a great day all, Nickt On 5/5/09, Nick Helms wrote: > On 5/5/09, Orin wrote: >> Yep. This is also for the Mac, too, so it'd be awesome if this could >> somehow become blind friendly with some ad-ons. >> On May 5, 2009, at 6:53 PM, The Kolesar Brothers wrote: >> >>> Hi to all, from Ron and Boz. >>> For those working on the MSFS coversion to make it blind friendly. >>> I just was out to the x-plane web page at >>> www.x-plane.com From what I've read x-plane it taking over MSFS. But I could have missread >>> the article. >>> If we could get x-plane blind friendly. You not only could learn to >>> fly but >>> we space buffs could fly the space shuttle. >>> Any chance to take a look at this program? >>> We can down load a demo of the x-plane program to play with to see >>> if we >>> could get it to be blind friendly or not. >>> It just was a suggestion for blind pilot love to be everywhere. >>> Ron who isn't a programer but will help out when and where ever he >>> can. >>> I hope this takes off excuse the bun. >>> Ron and Leader Dog Boz class 0409 >>> Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! >>> >>> kolesar16...@roadrunner.com >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org >>> . >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of >>> the list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > > -- > Listen to my weekly talk radio show every Tuesday night starting at 8 > P.M pacific daylight time, 7 P.M standerd time. To listen, point your > browser over to http://freecast.co.ukSkype Name: Nickster919 > blog: http://chatter8712.klango.net > klango name: chatter8712 > Phone: 360-526-6509. Call the above number to get on the ir > during my weekly show or to leave a message when I'm not > on the air! > Also, keep tabs on me through twitter. > http://twitter.com/Nickster919 > -- Listen to my weekly talk radio show every Tuesday night starting at 8 P.M pacific daylight time, 7 P.M standerd time. To listen, point your browser over to http://freecast.co.ukSkype Name: Nickster919 blog: http://chatter8712.klango.net klango name: chatter8712 Phone: 360-526-6509. Call the above number to get on the ir during my weekly show or to leave a message when I'm not on the air! Also, keep tabs on me through twitter. http://twitter.com/Nickster919 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] For all blind pilot love to be.
On 5/5/09, Orin wrote: > Yep. This is also for the Mac, too, so it'd be awesome if this could > somehow become blind friendly with some ad-ons. > On May 5, 2009, at 6:53 PM, The Kolesar Brothers wrote: > >> Hi to all, from Ron and Boz. >> For those working on the MSFS coversion to make it blind friendly. >> I just was out to the x-plane web page at >> www.x-plane.com >>> From what I've read x-plane it taking over MSFS. But I could have >>> missread >> the article. >> If we could get x-plane blind friendly. You not only could learn to >> fly but >> we space buffs could fly the space shuttle. >> Any chance to take a look at this program? >> We can down load a demo of the x-plane program to play with to see >> if we >> could get it to be blind friendly or not. >> It just was a suggestion for blind pilot love to be everywhere. >> Ron who isn't a programer but will help out when and where ever he >> can. >> I hope this takes off excuse the bun. >> Ron and Leader Dog Boz class 0409 >> Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! >> >> kolesar16...@roadrunner.com >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org >> . >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of >> the list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > -- Listen to my weekly talk radio show every Tuesday night starting at 8 P.M pacific daylight time, 7 P.M standerd time. To listen, point your browser over to http://freecast.co.ukSkype Name: Nickster919 blog: http://chatter8712.klango.net klango name: chatter8712 Phone: 360-526-6509. Call the above number to get on the ir during my weekly show or to leave a message when I'm not on the air! Also, keep tabs on me through twitter. http://twitter.com/Nickster919 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick?
I may have asked this before, sorry if that's the case. Does anyone happen to know where I could pick up a Philips retractable in the UK? I'm totally diggin rail racer with the mouse, but think that an analog stick to take the curves with might be even more instinctive for me seeing as I grew up as a console gamer. On 5/6/09, James Dietz wrote: > I use a logitec wingman rumblepad. As the name implies the controller > includes motors for force feedback. You need to install the software > from the cd or internet in order for games to pick up on its force > feedback qualities. It's a nice gimic but the rumble isn't very > powerful. I got the controller cerca 2001. It looks kind of like a > hybrid between the ps2 and dreamcast/xbox1 controllers - two wacky > looking protrusions out front, 2 decent (if a little flimsy) analog > sticks, 6 main buttons (which are a little small), a d-pad and a few > other buttons for switching control from d-pad to left analog stick > and back and toggling force feedback on/off. It isn't the best > controller - I used to have a microsoft sidewinder whose buttons and > dpad were a little more solid and big - but it's fun to use with games > especially top speed. One advantage resultant of joystick use in-game > is that you don't have to shut down your screenreader (and in some > cases, you don't even have to have the game window in focus - I can > play topspeed while chatting in an msn window though I won't be able > to hear the other cars on the track). > > James > > On 5/5/09, The Kolesar Brothers wrote: >> Most of us, myself included are using the sgz2909 retractable controller >> by >> philips. >> Hope this helps you out. >> Ron and Leader dog boz who said that a dog beats a cane any day of the >> week. >> Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! >> >> kolesar16...@roadrunner.com >> - Original Message - >> From: "Bryan Peterson" >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? >> >> >> I'd appreciate that as well. I'd like to buy a racing wheel for the racing >> games and at some point a joystick for other games. >> I want you...to go upstairs...and kill that boy! >> - Original Message - >> From: "Yohandy" >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:54 AM >> Subject: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? >> >> >>>I really want to buy one of these. Any ideas? Also if you have a site >>> where >>>I can buy it from it'll be even better. thanks guys! >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archi
Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick?
I use a logitec wingman rumblepad. As the name implies the controller includes motors for force feedback. You need to install the software from the cd or internet in order for games to pick up on its force feedback qualities. It's a nice gimic but the rumble isn't very powerful. I got the controller cerca 2001. It looks kind of like a hybrid between the ps2 and dreamcast/xbox1 controllers - two wacky looking protrusions out front, 2 decent (if a little flimsy) analog sticks, 6 main buttons (which are a little small), a d-pad and a few other buttons for switching control from d-pad to left analog stick and back and toggling force feedback on/off. It isn't the best controller - I used to have a microsoft sidewinder whose buttons and dpad were a little more solid and big - but it's fun to use with games especially top speed. One advantage resultant of joystick use in-game is that you don't have to shut down your screenreader (and in some cases, you don't even have to have the game window in focus - I can play topspeed while chatting in an msn window though I won't be able to hear the other cars on the track). James On 5/5/09, The Kolesar Brothers wrote: > Most of us, myself included are using the sgz2909 retractable controller by > philips. > Hope this helps you out. > Ron and Leader dog boz who said that a dog beats a cane any day of the week. > Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! > > kolesar16...@roadrunner.com > - Original Message - > From: "Bryan Peterson" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? > > > I'd appreciate that as well. I'd like to buy a racing wheel for the racing > games and at some point a joystick for other games. > I want you...to go upstairs...and kill that boy! > - Original Message - > From: "Yohandy" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:54 AM > Subject: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? > > >>I really want to buy one of these. Any ideas? Also if you have a site where >>I can buy it from it'll be even better. thanks guys! >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] For all blind pilot love to be.
Yep. This is also for the Mac, too, so it'd be awesome if this could somehow become blind friendly with some ad-ons. On May 5, 2009, at 6:53 PM, The Kolesar Brothers wrote: Hi to all, from Ron and Boz. For those working on the MSFS coversion to make it blind friendly. I just was out to the x-plane web page at www.x-plane.com From what I've read x-plane it taking over MSFS. But I could have missread the article. If we could get x-plane blind friendly. You not only could learn to fly but we space buffs could fly the space shuttle. Any chance to take a look at this program? We can down load a demo of the x-plane program to play with to see if we could get it to be blind friendly or not. It just was a suggestion for blind pilot love to be everywhere. Ron who isn't a programer but will help out when and where ever he can. I hope this takes off excuse the bun. Ron and Leader Dog Boz class 0409 Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Football and Vista?
Hello Jim I tried to play football today and was able to get to the point of the first kick off and I get this error message: Runtime Error 13 Type Mismatch Steve Walker --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] For all blind pilot love to be.
Hi to all, from Ron and Boz. For those working on the MSFS coversion to make it blind friendly. I just was out to the x-plane web page at www.x-plane.com >From what I've read x-plane it taking over MSFS. But I could have missread the article. If we could get x-plane blind friendly. You not only could learn to fly but we space buffs could fly the space shuttle. Any chance to take a look at this program? We can down load a demo of the x-plane program to play with to see if we could get it to be blind friendly or not. It just was a suggestion for blind pilot love to be everywhere. Ron who isn't a programer but will help out when and where ever he can. I hope this takes off excuse the bun. Ron and Leader Dog Boz class 0409 Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
To get a similar effect using keys you would need to use something like the whole numbers row. 1 would be speed 2 2 speed 4 3 speed 8 4 speed 16 5 speed 32 6 speed 64 7 speed 128 8 speed 256 9 speed 512 0 speed 1024 Just the number moves you forward the number plus shift would move you left the number plus control would move you right the number plus shift and control would reverse your direction. So 11 keys could do what one joystick or mouse could do. Phil - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Would minus 5,000 be moving backward at full speed, then? I can see the advantages to joystick movement and action when you described it as you did. How about having to type -5000 to determine your movement during a fast action game? (evil grin) In other words, "No way, Jose!" --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Hi, It isn't an issue of annalogue verses digital devices. it has to do with how operating systems and programs recieve input from those devices. Keyboards return a key pressed or key released state back to the operating system or program polling it. Since a key can only be held down or released there isn't any other state the key can be in. This is different from a joystick that has a wide range of motion and movements left, right, back, foward, or a combination of these. Obviously, since the joystick has such a wide degree of movement you can program much more complex tasks for it. If you wanted a player to run using a keyboard pressing up arrow might start him walking. Add a shift or control key and he breaks out into a run. This works, but you don't get a lot of control over speed other than a walk or a run because a key can only be pressed or released. Now, on a joystick since the y axis has a range of -5000 to 5000 you can speed up or slow down based on the y axis. If the axis is 0 the player is stopped. If you push the stick foward or backward the closer you get to -5000 or 5000 you can continue adding speed and momentum until the player reaches the proper speed. This gives you a huge advantage over the keyboard because you have a steady increase from standing still to an all out run. Much smoother, realistic, and advance than the clunky keyboard method. HTH --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.19/2099 - Release Date: 05/05/09 13:07:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick?
Most of us, myself included are using the sgz2909 retractable controller by philips. Hope this helps you out. Ron and Leader dog boz who said that a dog beats a cane any day of the week. Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! kolesar16...@roadrunner.com - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I'd appreciate that as well. I'd like to buy a racing wheel for the racing games and at some point a joystick for other games. I want you...to go upstairs...and kill that boy! - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:54 AM Subject: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? >I really want to buy one of these. Any ideas? Also if you have a site where >I can buy it from it'll be even better. thanks guys! > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] games and joysticks
Hi all. after a little bit of shuffling I have managed to find a place to store and play my wingman force 3d stick. However I really hope its worth it, when I started to play games like gtc and sod just spun round. and round. however this time I have made sure the ffb stick will always centre. Hopefully I can get a game or two, its just a basic stick and its probably getting a bit old. I will probably start with something like this since i have it then switch to a rumble pad one day, however this was an old birthday present some years back so I guess I'll try. I have a throttle control back and foreward as well as left and right and left right stick turn 6 buttons and a central button making 7 buttons. we will see. However if stuff I play just doesn't cut it or something I may just switch off the stick. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Arcade Mode
To be honest tom, currently there isn't enough Mota for me to tell either way, sinse currently bsaving hasn't become a factor. Perhaps with later levels it might prove better, but at the second I just dont' know. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:19 PM Subject: [Audyssey] MOTA Arcade Mode Hello Listers, I have a real quick question for some of you Mysteries of the Ancients fans. Over the passed few days/weeks I have been involved in performing a major upgrade of Mysteries of the Ancients. As the work I am doing is largely experimental I don't want to say too much about the work as yet. Although, I think if it pans out it will be a big step forward with the game, and possably will resolve several issues with the game. That said, here is the deal. I've been porting MOTA over to a newer version of the Genesis Engine, and so far so good. Thing is since Genesis is primarily for First Person style games I never put an arcade mode in the main Genesis Engine. It was strictly an addition to the modified engine for Mysteries of the Ancients. Obviously I can add an arcade mode to the Genesis Engine, make it a standard feature, but I'm not sure if that is necessary. So I am going to ask this question. When playing Mysteries of the Ancients do you prefer arcade mode or standard mode when playing? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick?
Hi. I use the sgz2909 retractable controler by philips. I'm going to use that with moc1 tts. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
Yah, Jim might think about including mouse support for Mach 1, it wouldn't take long at all to convert his hoystick code to mouse input and allow the user to select which one they want. the mouse works great for rail racer, no reason why it wouldn't work equally well for any racing game, and just about everyone out there that has bought a computer has received a mouse with it. later che - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Hi, Yeah, Rail Racer supports racing wheels. While Rail Racer seams to be fairly mouse oriented it works equally well with the wheel too. Having seen that support in Rail Racer and Topspeed I'm rather interested to see the new Mach 1. Ryan Strunk wrote: Why pay for the wheel? Because it will work for Mach 1, it does work for Top Speed, and it's supposed to work for Raceway. Sorry Che but I've been a mouse user for Rail Racer, so I'm not sure if it works for that, too. If they don't want to pay 20 dollars for a controller for a free game, then they don't have to play the free game. I might possibly understand them getting mad if the game cost 50 dollars and they still had to buy that controller, but come on. The game is free. Besides which, we need to get with the times. Ryan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] cookies
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Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
I'd like to see keyboard to, but also mouse support like railracer does. I have a mouse for this reason. At 06:00 a.m. 6/05/2009, you wrote: >I guess I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who does not own a game >controler of any kind, but I'd love to see keyboard buttons as well. I mean, >the old version had them, topspeed has them... why not this? > >Simon > > >On Tuesday, May 05, 2009 3:58 PM, >Charles Rivard wrote: > >| The button mapping feature will be a good option. Using one stick for gas >| and brake, and the other for steering seems logical, the the buttons on >the >| game controller would be used for other functions. Could there possibly >be >| a mapping feature for keyboards so that those could be used to play the >game >| as well?, or would that be too much work. Thanks. >| --- >| In God we trust! >| - Original Message - >| From: "Jim Kitchen" >| To: "Charles Rivard" >| Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:55 AM >| Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts >| >| >|> Hi Charles, >|> >|> I'm sure that Mach 1 tts will work with any joystick as the code for >|> joysticks is all the same. I am thinking of the dual stick game >|> controller that has been discussed and am thinking about steering with >one >|> stick and the other stick would be the gas and brake peddle. Guess that >|> would work out ok. The Logitech MOMO Racing controller has behind the >|> steering wheel two fins (buttons) that you can pull easily with your >|> finger tips while your hands are on the wheel. I have those set to >|> speedometer and track position. Then there are 6 buttons on the hub of >|> the steering wheel. I have them as lap, gear, time and horn. Two are >|> unused. Then to the right of the steering wheel is a gear shift knob. I >|> have it as pushing it forward is down shift and pulling it towards you is >|> to shift up a gear. So I still need to write all of the part where one >|> can select which button, stick etc will do what if you are not using the >|> Logitech MOMO Racing controller or just want to rearrange what does what. >|> >|> BFN >|> >|> Jim >|> >|> WHeRe is ThaT DArN ShIfT keY? >|> >|> j...@kitchensinc.net >|> http://www.kitchensinc.net >|> (440) 286-6920 >|> Chardon Ohio USA >|> --- >|> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >|> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >|> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >|> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >|> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >|> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >|> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >|> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >|> list, >|> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >| >| >| --- >| Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >| If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >| You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >| http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >| All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >| http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >| If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >list, >| please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > >Visit www.vcoa.net for a free, stable teleconferencing service, which >includes great web control, conference recording, shoutcast >streaming, and many more customizable features. You can also contact the >owner from the main page to receive a free, personalized >dial-in telephone number with your own conference greeting, which people can >then call into. To learn more, send an email to >si...@mytelespace.net or simply visit the website above. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
Would minus 5,000 be moving backward at full speed, then? I can see the advantages to joystick movement and action when you described it as you did. How about having to type -5000 to determine your movement during a fast action game? (evil grin) In other words, "No way, Jose!" --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Hi, It isn't an issue of annalogue verses digital devices. it has to do with how operating systems and programs recieve input from those devices. Keyboards return a key pressed or key released state back to the operating system or program polling it. Since a key can only be held down or released there isn't any other state the key can be in. This is different from a joystick that has a wide range of motion and movements left, right, back, foward, or a combination of these. Obviously, since the joystick has such a wide degree of movement you can program much more complex tasks for it. If you wanted a player to run using a keyboard pressing up arrow might start him walking. Add a shift or control key and he breaks out into a run. This works, but you don't get a lot of control over speed other than a walk or a run because a key can only be pressed or released. Now, on a joystick since the y axis has a range of -5000 to 5000 you can speed up or slow down based on the y axis. If the axis is 0 the player is stopped. If you push the stick foward or backward the closer you get to -5000 or 5000 you can continue adding speed and momentum until the player reaches the proper speed. This gives you a huge advantage over the keyboard because you have a steady increase from standing still to an all out run. Much smoother, realistic, and advance than the clunky keyboard method. HTH --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
Hi, It isn't an issue of annalogue verses digital devices. it has to do with how operating systems and programs recieve input from those devices. Keyboards return a key pressed or key released state back to the operating system or program polling it. Since a key can only be held down or released there isn't any other state the key can be in. This is different from a joystick that has a wide range of motion and movements left, right, back, foward, or a combination of these. Obviously, since the joystick has such a wide degree of movement you can program much more complex tasks for it. If you wanted a player to run using a keyboard pressing up arrow might start him walking. Add a shift or control key and he breaks out into a run. This works, but you don't get a lot of control over speed other than a walk or a run because a key can only be pressed or released. Now, on a joystick since the y axis has a range of -5000 to 5000 you can speed up or slow down based on the y axis. If the axis is 0 the player is stopped. If you push the stick foward or backward the closer you get to -5000 or 5000 you can continue adding speed and momentum until the player reaches the proper speed. This gives you a huge advantage over the keyboard because you have a steady increase from standing still to an all out run. Much smoother, realistic, and advance than the clunky keyboard method. HTH --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
Hi Jim, Actually, unless you specifically program the secondary stick for game pads such as the SGC-2909 the secondary stick will do nothing. However, some game pads like the Logitec Rumble Pads have a speed slider on the front of the unit that when slid left/right they act as a type of throddle control. Seeing that every game pad and joystick is different I can't see a way around not having some kind of built in profiler to customize the controller to the end users liking. Smile. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Charles, I'm sure that Mach 1 tts will work with any joystick as the code for joysticks is all the same. I am thinking of the dual stick game controller that has been discussed and am thinking about steering with one stick and the other stick would be the gas and brake peddle. Guess that would work out ok. The Logitech MOMO Racing controller has behind the steering wheel two fins (buttons) that you can pull easily with your finger tips while your hands are on the wheel. I have those set to speedometer and track position. Then there are 6 buttons on the hub of the steering wheel. I have them as lap, gear, time and horn. Two are unused. Then to the right of the steering wheel is a gear shift knob. I have it as pushing it forward is down shift and pulling it towards you is to shift up a gear. So I still need to write all of the part where one can select which button, stick etc will do what if you are not using the Logitech MOMO Racing controller or just want to rearrange what does what. BFN Jim --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
Hi Jim, Well, it is true that the Logitec Momo Racing Wheel costs a fair amount of change but I know there are cheaper racing wheels out there. I've seen a couple now and then under $50 so as long as those cheaper moddels work, which I think they would, it is not really that big an investment for some of us on the list. Anyway, i think you are making the right decision for the game. It is your game, and you should create it exactly how you like it. If others don't like it, have a problem wih it, it is there problem. It is not as though you have charged them money to play it, and therefore owe them upgrades, extra features, or whatever might come with a commercial product. Smile. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi, Thank you all for your Mach 1 tts comments and suggestions. I know that the Logitech MOMO Racing controller is not cheap. It costs like $100.00. I'm sure that allot of people are not going to or can not spend that kind of money for a specific game controller. I got half of it as a gift and paid for the other half. Then I learned the VB6 joystick code. So I then wanted to write a game that used the steering wheel and was as close to being like real driving as I could make it. So I am not going to dumb down the game for the keyboard. I am sorry that the game will probably not be as much fun with a non steering wheel controller and even less so with the keyboard, but hey I could have written it and just kept it for myself. Thanks again and BFN Jim --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick?
I'd appreciate that as well. I'd like to buy a racing wheel for the racing games and at some point a joystick for other games. I want you...to go upstairs...and kill that boy! - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:54 AM Subject: [Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? I really want to buy one of these. Any ideas? Also if you have a site where I can buy it from it'll be even better. thanks guys! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
I guess I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who does not own a game controler of any kind, but I'd love to see keyboard buttons as well. I mean, the old version had them, topspeed has them... why not this? Simon On Tuesday, May 05, 2009 3:58 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: | The button mapping feature will be a good option. Using one stick for gas | and brake, and the other for steering seems logical, the the buttons on the | game controller would be used for other functions. Could there possibly be | a mapping feature for keyboards so that those could be used to play the game | as well?, or would that be too much work. Thanks. | --- | In God we trust! | - Original Message - | From: "Jim Kitchen" | To: "Charles Rivard" | Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:55 AM | Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts | | |> Hi Charles, |> |> I'm sure that Mach 1 tts will work with any joystick as the code for |> joysticks is all the same. I am thinking of the dual stick game |> controller that has been discussed and am thinking about steering with one |> stick and the other stick would be the gas and brake peddle. Guess that |> would work out ok. The Logitech MOMO Racing controller has behind the |> steering wheel two fins (buttons) that you can pull easily with your |> finger tips while your hands are on the wheel. I have those set to |> speedometer and track position. Then there are 6 buttons on the hub of |> the steering wheel. I have them as lap, gear, time and horn. Two are |> unused. Then to the right of the steering wheel is a gear shift knob. I |> have it as pushing it forward is down shift and pulling it towards you is |> to shift up a gear. So I still need to write all of the part where one |> can select which button, stick etc will do what if you are not using the |> Logitech MOMO Racing controller or just want to rearrange what does what. |> |> BFN |> |> Jim |> |> WHeRe is ThaT DArN ShIfT keY? |> |> j...@kitchensinc.net |> http://www.kitchensinc.net |> (440) 286-6920 |> Chardon Ohio USA |> --- |> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org |> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to |> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. |> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at |> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. |> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at |> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. |> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the |> list, |> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. | | | --- | Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org | If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. | You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at | http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. | All messages are archived and can be searched and read at | http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. | If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, | please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Visit www.vcoa.net for a free, stable teleconferencing service, which includes great web control, conference recording, shoutcast streaming, and many more customizable features. You can also contact the owner from the main page to receive a free, personalized dial-in telephone number with your own conference greeting, which people can then call into. To learn more, send an email to si...@mytelespace.net or simply visit the website above. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
Hi, Yeah, Rail Racer supports racing wheels. While Rail Racer seams to be fairly mouse oriented it works equally well with the wheel too. Having seen that support in Rail Racer and Topspeed I'm rather interested to see the new Mach 1. Ryan Strunk wrote: Why pay for the wheel? Because it will work for Mach 1, it does work for Top Speed, and it's supposed to work for Raceway. Sorry Che but I've been a mouse user for Rail Racer, so I'm not sure if it works for that, too. If they don't want to pay 20 dollars for a controller for a free game, then they don't have to play the free game. I might possibly understand them getting mad if the game cost 50 dollars and they still had to buy that controller, but come on. The game is free. Besides which, we need to get with the times. Ryan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Arcade mode.
Hi, Yeah, it makes sense. So consider the fact that the nex few betas may not have arcade mode but it can or will be added in nsometime before release. Smile. Charles Rivard wrote: A truer statement has never been made, other than the 4-letter word you had to use because of list guidelines. There's another one that means crap that fits better. (grin) Adding the arcade mode right near the end might be a good idea. If you know that the game works otherwise, and the arcade mode screws up the operation of the game, then you know that the extra mode is the culprit and can, maybe? trace and smash the bugs, or just remove that mode and leave the game as is. It'll be a fun game either way. --- --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] any recommendations for a good gaming joystick?
I really want to buy one of these. Any ideas? Also if you have a site where I can buy it from it'll be even better. thanks guys! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] football
Greetings Ronald. Post the error message so Jim will have some clue of what you're talking about? Programs run into hundreds of situations where errors may occur, and for most of these an appropriate error message is generated. Without the text of the message or an error code, no one will be able to diagnose the issue. Kai - Original Message - From: "RONALD HOPKINS" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:32 AM Subject: [Audyssey] football Hello Jim. This is Ron. Just wondering, when I play football, I get some error during the game and it quits working? Just wondering what that is? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
Greetings Jim. I've made it fairly clear before, but I'll reiterate my opinion: I fully support your decision to focus on a controller that will bring forth your vision of how the game should be played. The keyboard is a fine staple for input, but it is rarely the ideal medium for complex maneuvers in games and other applications. Can you imagine a graphics specialist trying to draw an F18 fighter jet with just the arrow keys? An animation artist trying to draw a moving hand with the keyboard? I applaud you for not caving in to slave over implementing a sub par input device in your design of Mach 1. I think that product developers have every right to put their foot down, make things as they wish, then see what happens -- more so if the end product is free of charge! Rather than try to please everyone, you should always design it to your vision, make it something you yourself would enjoy playing, not some Joe Shmo who you'll probably never meet. If Joe enjoys your game, then more's the better, but by no means should Joe's satisfaction or lack thereof sway your vision. Lookin' forward to the new release! Kai - Original Message - From: "Jim Kitchen" To: "Constantine" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:55 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Hi, Thank you all for your Mach 1 tts comments and suggestions. I know that the Logitech MOMO Racing controller is not cheap. It costs like $100.00. I'm sure that allot of people are not going to or can not spend that kind of money for a specific game controller. I got half of it as a gift and paid for the other half. Then I learned the VB6 joystick code. So I then wanted to write a game that used the steering wheel and was as close to being like real driving as I could make it. So I am not going to dumb down the game for the keyboard. I am sorry that the game will probably not be as much fun with a non steering wheel controller and even less so with the keyboard, but hey I could have written it and just kept it for myself. Thanks again and BFN Jim Check my web site for my free blind accessible pc dos and windows games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] football
Hello Jim. This is Ron. Just wondering, when I play football, I get some error during the game and it quits working? Just wondering what that is? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
I think it will be just as fun with a controller. Too bad keyboards can't be analogue (you'd think with technology they could be). Will the game support force feedback? I don't even remember if my controller supports that. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Jim Kitchen" To: "Constantine" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 3:55 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Hi, Thank you all for your Mach 1 tts comments and suggestions. I know that the Logitech MOMO Racing controller is not cheap. It costs like $100.00. I'm sure that allot of people are not going to or can not spend that kind of money for a specific game controller. I got half of it as a gift and paid for the other half. Then I learned the VB6 joystick code. So I then wanted to write a game that used the steering wheel and was as close to being like real driving as I could make it. So I am not going to dumb down the game for the keyboard. I am sorry that the game will probably not be as much fun with a non steering wheel controller and even less so with the keyboard, but hey I could have written it and just kept it for myself. Thanks again and BFN Jim Check my web site for my free blind accessible pc dos and windows games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
Ah, yeah. My controller has 2 shoulder buttons that are usually used as break and gas. They're anilogue so I can push them a little or a lot, and the vehicle would go faster and faster. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Jim Kitchen" To: "Charles Rivard" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 3:55 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Hi Charles, I'm sure that Mach 1 tts will work with any joystick as the code for joysticks is all the same. I am thinking of the dual stick game controller that has been discussed and am thinking about steering with one stick and the other stick would be the gas and brake peddle. Guess that would work out ok. The Logitech MOMO Racing controller has behind the steering wheel two fins (buttons) that you can pull easily with your finger tips while your hands are on the wheel. I have those set to speedometer and track position. Then there are 6 buttons on the hub of the steering wheel. I have them as lap, gear, time and horn. Two are unused. Then to the right of the steering wheel is a gear shift knob. I have it as pushing it forward is down shift and pulling it towards you is to shift up a gear. So I still need to write all of the part where one can select which button, stick etc will do what if you are not using the Logitech MOMO Racing controller or just want to rearrange what does what BFN Jim WHeRe is ThaT DArN ShIfT keY? j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
Agreed. Heh even if you go luny by luny, its only 20 days before you can play it. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Ryan Strunk" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Why pay for the wheel? Because it will work for Mach 1, it does work for Top Speed, and it's supposed to work for Raceway. Sorry Che but I've been a mouse user for Rail Racer, so I'm not sure if it works for that, too. If they don't want to pay 20 dollars for a controller for a free game, then they don't have to play the free game. I might possibly understand them getting mad if the game cost 50 dollars and they still had to buy that controller, but come on. The game is free. Besides which, we need to get with the times. Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Constantine Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:36 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts I'd like to point out one thing here. I appreciate all the work Jim does, but since the game itself will be free, people might be thinking, Why should I pay 20 dollars for a controller for a game that's free? Actually, that's how I see Vip mud. Monkey term does things just as great and I'm not paying a cent to play the muds themselves. This is a bit different though, since you can use the controller/steering wheel for more than just TTS. The thing about the PS3 is the fact that your paying for the system itself as well as games. So essentially you do have an option of playing. With Jims games, though, the games are free. I think there should be keyboard support for at least a few tracks - or how about mouse support? I love rail racer for that. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Kai" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Greetings List. I can't afford the cost of the PS3, its peripherals, nor the games themselves, so I'm not playing PS3 games. Same case would apply here, I think. It's not exactly like *everyone* has to play a game. People who can't afford Shades of Doom won't play it. It's effectively the same situation. Meanwhile, for those who can afford such peripherals for their computers, concentrating on improved support for said peripherals will make the game that much more enjoyable for them. Kai - Original Message - From: "Constantine" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Hi, There's one big problem there. Some people probably can't afford even 20 dollars to get a controller or steering wheel. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Kai" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Greetings Jim. I don't think you should even bother with keyboard support. We need to get away from this catering mindset, where things have to be dumbed down just so everyone can use them. If you designed the game with analog joysticks/wheels/etc in mind, and if that's the best way to drive the car, then would it not be much better to focus on that, improving it as best you may, rather than trying to implement a clunky keyboard input mechanism? If people wanted to play a Playstation racing title properly, they'd go and buy a steering wheel. In the old days, you couldn't play duck hunt properly without the extra gun controller. While I can understand clinging to things we know (I myself am guilty of this, as I'm still using XP and JAWS 7), if the developer takes the bull by the horns, then people will follow if they want to play the game. And, unless you're charging for the game, I'd say they'd have no room for complaint if they couldn't playing it -- what, after all, are they losing by not playing it? They haven't spent their money on it if it's a free download. I'm sure this course won't please everyone, but when I make something, and it's offered free, I design it the way I'd like to use it. I only consider other users' suggestions if I myself wouldn't mi
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
It's not just a matter of don't wat to ay. Some of us really can't afford to fork over thee dough, espcially not if we're talking about a controller that'll last a reasonable amount of time. I myself actually wouldn't mind ownin a few gamepads for different tyes of games, but finding ones that won't brak the ank for someone who doesn't currently have a job is where I'm running into problems. Granted I'll probaby buy, say, the wheel for the racig games one month and the joystick later. Anybody know of some good models? That may be a good place to start. I want you...to go upstairs...and kill that boy! - Original Message - From: "Ryan Strunk" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Why pay for the wheel? Because it will work for Mach 1, it does work for Top Speed, and it's supposed to work for Raceway. Sorry Che but I've been a mouse user for Rail Racer, so I'm not sure if it works for that, too. If they don't want to pay 20 dollars for a controller for a free game, then they don't have to play the free game. I might possibly understand them getting mad if the game cost 50 dollars and they still had to buy that controller, but come on. The game is free. Besides which, we need to get with the times. Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Constantine Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:36 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts I'd like to point out one thing here. I appreciate all the work Jim does, but since the game itself will be free, people might be thinking, Why should I pay 20 dollars for a controller for a game that's free? Actually, that's how I see Vip mud. Monkey term does things just as great and I'm not paying a cent to play the muds themselves. This is a bit different though, since you can use the controller/steering wheel for more than just TTS. The thing about the PS3 is the fact that your paying for the system itself as well as games. So essentially you do have an option of playing. With Jims games, though, the games are free. I think there should be keyboard support for at least a few tracks - or how about mouse support? I love rail racer for that. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Kai" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Greetings List. I can't afford the cost of the PS3, its peripherals, nor the games themselves, so I'm not playing PS3 games. Same case would apply here, I think. It's not exactly like *everyone* has to play a game. People who can't afford Shades of Doom won't play it. It's effectively the same situation. Meanwhile, for those who can afford such peripherals for their computers, concentrating on improved support for said peripherals will make the game that much more enjoyable for them. Kai - Original Message - From: "Constantine" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Hi, There's one big problem there. Some people probably can't afford even 20 dollars to get a controller or steering wheel. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Kai" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts Greetings Jim. I don't think you should even bother with keyboard support. We need to get away from this catering mindset, where things have to be dumbed down just so everyone can use them. If you designed the game with analog joysticks/wheels/etc in mind, and if that's the best way to drive the car, then would it not be much better to focus on that, improving it as best you may, rather than trying to implement a clunky keyboard input mechanism? If people wanted to play a Playstation racing title properly, they'd go and buy a steering wheel. In the old days, you couldn't play duck hunt properly without the extra gun controller. While I can understand clinging to things we know (I myself am guilty of this, as I'm still using XP and JAWS 7), if the developer takes the bull by the horns, then people will follow if they want to play the game. And, unless you're charging for the game, I'd say they'd have no room for complaint if they couldn't playing it -- what, after all, are they losing by not playing it? They haven't spent thei
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
Hi Charles, I'm sure that Mach 1 tts will work with any joystick as the code for joysticks is all the same. I am thinking of the dual stick game controller that has been discussed and am thinking about steering with one stick and the other stick would be the gas and brake peddle. Guess that would work out ok. The Logitech MOMO Racing controller has behind the steering wheel two fins (buttons) that you can pull easily with your finger tips while your hands are on the wheel. I have those set to speedometer and track position. Then there are 6 buttons on the hub of the steering wheel. I have them as lap, gear, time and horn. Two are unused. Then to the right of the steering wheel is a gear shift knob. I have it as pushing it forward is down shift and pulling it towards you is to shift up a gear. So I still need to write all of the part where one can select which button, stick etc will do what if you are not using the Logitech MOMO Racing controller or just want to rearrange what does what. BFN Jim WHeRe is ThaT DArN ShIfT keY? j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mach 1 tts
Hi, Thank you all for your Mach 1 tts comments and suggestions. I know that the Logitech MOMO Racing controller is not cheap. It costs like $100.00. I'm sure that allot of people are not going to or can not spend that kind of money for a specific game controller. I got half of it as a gift and paid for the other half. Then I learned the VB6 joystick code. So I then wanted to write a game that used the steering wheel and was as close to being like real driving as I could make it. So I am not going to dumb down the game for the keyboard. I am sorry that the game will probably not be as much fun with a non steering wheel controller and even less so with the keyboard, but hey I could have written it and just kept it for myself. Thanks again and BFN Jim Check my web site for my free blind accessible pc dos and windows games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
