Re: [Audyssey] x-wheel
Hi Jennifer, This is very strange indeed. Email me off list and I'll try and help you resolve your issue. Cheers. Damien. -Original Message- From: Jennifer Jarvis Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:29 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] x-wheel Hi, I been trying to play the x-wheel game, but I can't get it to do anything. The game comes up and everything, but I can't get it to start a new game or anything when I hit enter on any of the choices. Is there something I'm not doing or is this been something that needs to be fixed? Thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen.
The only real reason why i never pick up champ baseball is simply because the rules are too complex, and in britain, it is nowhere near as popular. If i had the time and resources, i'd make a cricket game, since A. noone's tried it and B. Its far more well known and played than baseball... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: 16 July 2012 17:01 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen. True. Changing the number of games in the World Series would be like making it the Indy 250. It just shouldn't be done. I also think that there should be a selection of single game or World Series. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen. Hi Michael, Oh, I don't know about that. Championship Baseball is suppose to be based on the World Series which runs for 7 consecutive games. If Jim began fiddling with the number of games that can be in the World Series that just wouldn't appeal to me at all. What would be more practical here is perhaps a single game mode, a practice game, where you can play one on one with the computer practicing for the world series. That would probably satisfy your needs more because you wouldn't have to enter the World Series at all if you just wanted to play a quick game to practice your batting averages whatever. On 7/16/12, michael barnes c...@samobile.net wrote: Hey, As you all know I have been playing the baseball game from www.kitchensinc.net. Today I was doing some thinking about a neat concept for the game! What would be cool if Jim could have it set up so that the person playing the game could pick how many games they want in the series. For exsample: If I just wanted to play a two game series then I could put that number. When you start the game it would ask how many games do you want to play in the series? Another neat idea is to do a homerun derby game aswell. The way that could work is you would get to hit the ball as many times as you want but if you get ten outs then the derby is over. You could go up against the computer. So it would be a one on one homerun derby player vs. the computer. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2195 / Virus Database: 2437/5135 - Release Date: 07/16/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help finding a board game.
Hi Thomas, Yes Sir, I did put allot of work into creating the word list for my hangman game. However I found it just as easy to have one large word list such as apple, 3 nurse, 1 hospital, 2 Guess that the program that let me define each word could as just as easily created 3 different word lists, but I went for just one word list with the delimiters. Well actually my hangman game does have 3 word lists 1 is the 13 thousand regular words list. 2 is the 356 adult words list and 3 is the word list that you can create for the game. However the 2 word lists that come with the game are encrypted. BFN Jim Nuthin' is simple sometimes... j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen.
Hi Michael, As others have said, it is championship baseball, that is World Series championship baseball which is the best of 7 games. I could tell you which files to delete after 1 game so that you could play 1 game at a time. But I also know that others have asked for a full 162 game season. I'm not going to do that. Have fun. BFN Jim What was the best thing before sliced bread? j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon Updates - July 2012
Wow looks like I missed a major changelog since yesterday. Look forward to getting on and reading it. - Original Message - From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:49:29 -0400 Subject: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon Updates - July 2012 We've made a lot of changes in the last few weeks, and I figured it was time to post a summary of the updates to the list: - Oriol has released another version of Mush-Z, with new sounds, triggers, and other capabilities. Get it at: http://www.mush-z.com - A new area has been released in the outer planar fire world. This high level area lies below fire giants, and tells a bit more of their story. - A new part of the plane of darkness has been released for high level players. - New kxwt client triggers have been added for potion brewing. The new Mush-Z release uses these to log potion recipes. - The thief lock picking skill has been improved by a change to the way locks are handled. - Improve jaws/eloquence filters to prevent reader crashes. One of our less ethical players found a new set of eloquence crash words, which are now properly filtered. - Allow hallowed ground to be used in more places. - Remove poison if your life was saved by prayer for the dying. - Add a new warrior skill, 'riposte', at level 11 warrior. - Add a new warrior skill, 'charge', at level 16 warrior. - Add a new warrior skill, 'jab' at level 6 warrior. - Most hand to hand warrior skills can now hit ethereal mobs if you're wearing equipment with an elemental damage type. Over the next month, we plan to add more warrior skills and possibly get started on some major improvements to clan code. See you there! Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon Updates - July 2012
Your correct, the updater does fix the version. What happens is that every time you enter the game mushz checks it's version by the title of a character, then if you aren't running the same version it pops up a dialog telling you to update. - Original Message - From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:28:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon Updates - July 2012 Ryan, My understanding is that the updater will take care of it. I thought it autoupdated anyway, most of the players currently online are on the new version already. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Ryan Conroy staindadd...@juno.com wrote: Quick question: To get this new, version of Mush-Z, do we need to redownload it, or can we just use the updater if we already have the client? Thanks, Ryan -- Original Message -- From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon Updates - July 2012 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:49:29 -0400 We've made a lot of changes in the last few weeks, and I figured it was time to post a summary of the updates to the list: - Oriol has released another version of Mush-Z, with new sounds, triggers, and other capabilities. Get it at: http://www.mush-z.com - A new area has been released in the outer planar fire world. This high level area lies below fire giants, and tells a bit more of their story. - A new part of the plane of darkness has been released for high level players. - New kxwt client triggers have been added for potion brewing. The new Mush-Z release uses these to log potion recipes. - The thief lock picking skill has been improved by a change to the way locks are handled. - Improve jaws/eloquence filters to prevent reader crashes. One of our less ethical players found a new set of eloquence crash words, which are now properly filtered. - Allow hallowed ground to be used in more places. - Remove poison if your life was saved by prayer for the dying. - Add a new warrior skill, 'riposte', at level 11 warrior. - Add a new warrior skill, 'charge', at level 16 warrior. - Add a new warrior skill, 'jab' at level 6 warrior. - Most hand to hand warrior skills can now hit ethereal mobs if you're wearing equipment with an elemental damage type. Over the next month, we plan to add more warrior skills and possibly get started on some major improvements to clan code. See you there! Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen.
Actually, the rules of Jim's game are pretty straightforward. You don't need to know all of the rules of baseball. The game takes care of that end. You just have to figure out which pitch to throw that might fool a batter. Mix up the sequence. Batting is a matter of outguessing the computerized pitcher and having good timing on your swing for good results. Other than deciding when to bunt to try to advance a base runner, that's about it. --- Real Presidents don't apologize for their Country, and Real First Ladies are ALWAYS Proud of their Country! - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen. The only real reason why i never pick up champ baseball is simply because the rules are too complex, and in britain, it is nowhere near as popular. If i had the time and resources, i'd make a cricket game, since A. noone's tried it and B. Its far more well known and played than baseball... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: 16 July 2012 17:01 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen. True. Changing the number of games in the World Series would be like making it the Indy 250. It just shouldn't be done. I also think that there should be a selection of single game or World Series. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen. Hi Michael, Oh, I don't know about that. Championship Baseball is suppose to be based on the World Series which runs for 7 consecutive games. If Jim began fiddling with the number of games that can be in the World Series that just wouldn't appeal to me at all. What would be more practical here is perhaps a single game mode, a practice game, where you can play one on one with the computer practicing for the world series. That would probably satisfy your needs more because you wouldn't have to enter the World Series at all if you just wanted to play a quick game to practice your batting averages whatever. On 7/16/12, michael barnes c...@samobile.net wrote: Hey, As you all know I have been playing the baseball game from www.kitchensinc.net. Today I was doing some thinking about a neat concept for the game! What would be cool if Jim could have it set up so that the person playing the game could pick how many games they want in the series. For exsample: If I just wanted to play a two game series then I could put that number. When you start the game it would ask how many games do you want to play in the series? Another neat idea is to do a homerun derby game aswell. The way that could work is you would get to hit the ball as many times as you want but if you get ten outs then the derby is over. You could go up against the computer. So it would be a one on one homerun derby player vs. the computer. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2195 / Virus Database: 2437/5135 - Release Date: 07/16/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send
Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen.
Hi Ben, What do you mean the rules are too complex? The rules for Major league Baseball are pretty simple. At least as far as I'm concerned. I guess this is just one of those cultural things between someone who grew up in the U.S. and the U.K. Most Americans,even those who don't watch Baseball, are familiar with the rules and basic game play because at some point they will probably play Baseball on the playground, in gym class, or with a group of friends in the neighborhood. As someone who grew up in the U.S. all my life I can't imagine someone who doesn't know how to play Baseball. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: The only real reason why i never pick up champ baseball is simply because the rules are too complex, and in britain, it is nowhere near as popular. If i had the time and resources, i'd make a cricket game, since A. noone's tried it and B. Its far more well known and played than baseball... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen.
Hi Jim, Yes, in deed. Both your Baseball and Football game do a good job of handling the rules and specifics for the game player. Although, I am familiar with both I haven't had to actually had to know anything about Baseball or Football to play them. So someone from the U.K. or somewhere else should just be able to pick up and play without much experience with the sport itself. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Ben, I don't think that you really need to know all of the rules of baseball to play my game. When you are in the field you basically just pick which pitch to throw. And then when you are up to bat, all you do is to try to hit the ball. The game pretty much takes care of all of the rules. I believe pretty much the same goes for my game of American football. BFN Jim If you play by the rules, you're gonna miss all the fun. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help finding a board game.
Hi Jim, Yeah, that works just as well. I hadn't thought about just adding a delimitor and a number to identify the category. Just goes to show there are are multiple ways to handle the same thing when programming. It always amazes me when I look at another person's code and see that they took a totally different approach than I would have done. Sometimes its better and sometimes not, but it is still interesting to see how much variation there is in handling the same issue. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Yes Sir, I did put allot of work into creating the word list for my hangman game. However I found it just as easy to have one large word list such as apple, 3 nurse, 1 hospital, 2 Guess that the program that let me define each word could as just as easily created 3 different word lists, but I went for just one word list with the delimiters. Well actually my hangman game does have 3 word lists 1 is the 13 thousand regular words list. 2 is the 356 adult words list and 3 is the word list that you can create for the game. However the 2 word lists that come with the game are encrypted. BFN Jim Nuthin' is simple sometimes... j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
I don't have the disc, but I want the voices... what do I do. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 17 July 2012 17:46 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5136 - Release Date: 07/16/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen.
It aint that easy: if you aint played the games, you don't know the rules. And if you don't know the rules, you can't play the games. If you see what I'm getting at. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 17 July 2012 17:21 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen. Hi Jim, Yes, in deed. Both your Baseball and Football game do a good job of handling the rules and specifics for the game player. Although, I am familiar with both I haven't had to actually had to know anything about Baseball or Football to play them. So someone from the U.K. or somewhere else should just be able to pick up and play without much experience with the sport itself. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Ben, I don't think that you really need to know all of the rules of baseball to play my game. When you are in the field you basically just pick which pitch to throw. And then when you are up to bat, all you do is to try to hit the ball. The game pretty much takes care of all of the rules. I believe pretty much the same goes for my game of American football. BFN Jim If you play by the rules, you're gonna miss all the fun. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5136 - Release Date: 07/16/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Ben, Sorry, I can't help you there. The only way I can legally do this is if you actually own the Realspeak software disc that shipped with your Freedom Scientific product such as Openbook 8, Jaws 8, Jaws 9, etc. If you don't own the disc or threw it away I can't just zip up the patched disc and voices and give them to you as that would be software piracy. The best I can do is upload a little patch that fixes the Realspeak software installer to allow them to run on 64-bit Windows for people who own the original software media. My goal here isn't to pirate the software, but simply fix the setup so people can use them on new laptop and desktop machines running Windows 7 and Windows 8. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: I don't have the disc, but I want the voices... what do I do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen.
Hi Ben, Yes, I do see your point. That said, Jim's Baseball game doesn't require that you know anything about Baseball. You don't need to know the rules, because its designed to be very simple. The pitcher throws and you listen for the ball to get near the batters box, and you press space to hit the ball. When you are out in the field you press numbers 1 through 6 to select a pitch. The game handles all the actual plays and rules. Its as simple as a game gets. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: It aint that easy: if you aint played the games, you don't know the rules. And if you don't know the rules, you can't play the games. If you see what I'm getting at. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hey if you have the patch I would be interested. _ From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Ben, Sorry, I can't help you there. The only way I can legally do this is if you actually own the Realspeak software disc that shipped with your Freedom Scientific product such as Openbook 8, Jaws 8, Jaws 9, etc. If you don't own the disc or threw it away I can't just zip up the patched disc and voices and give them to you as that would be software piracy. The best I can do is upload a little patch that fixes the Realspeak software installer to allow them to run on 64-bit Windows for people who own the original software media. My goal here isn't to pirate the software, but simply fix the setup so people can use them on new laptop and desktop machines running Windows 7 and Windows 8. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: I don't have the disc, but I want the voices... what do I do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7306 (20120717) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7307 (20120717) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7307 (20120717) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] light the bgt fire - a course for those who want to learn bgt
(if want to reply, reply to my e-mail not to the mailing list, because I'm not checking an mailing list often) Hello, I'm going to run a bgt course on the internet which will be called light the bgt fire. This is going to be streamed on the skype, teamtalk, zello and probably on someone's server if anyone wants to help about that. All lessons are going to be uploaded and recorded, so everyone can download if missed a lesson[s], or if just don't wanna be in real-time lesson. A course is going to be a month long and durring that time students should be thrown to the basics and ready to learn their own. why am i going to run that competition? Because i've heard from many people that they tried to read the help file and learn from there but they can't get anything. As i can recall, manual was very good in my way because i had a programming basis... We will do everything from the language tutorial and maby something another, however I'll not be only based on bgt language tutorial. What I mean when I said that you'll be able to program your own that means that you'll be ready to program simple things and that you'll be able to just expand your bgt knowledge. We will before the start of the course set the time at which we will meet on mentioned skype, team talk, zello and so on. Every day, we will first at all revise what we have done last day and then continue. We will also practice much; I'll first tell you and describe a thing, and then I'll force you to practice and write a code your self several times, until I see that you got that. A corse is going to be free; but since it will take much of my time i'll not start untill i reached a certen donations number. A course is most likely to not run if i didn't have any donations, or just too small one. I'm planning to run that for a month; or a bit earlier; so hurry up if you wanna support my course. how to donate to donate, please contact me using any of ways below: e-mail: ns.studi...@gmail.com skype: nikola.stojsic twitter: https://twitter.com/nsstudios_co facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nsstudios.co mobile phone: +381665105695 (just if you must) Kind regards Nikola Stojsic (NS studios) [ e-mail: ns.studi...@gmail.com skype: nikola.stojsic company's twitter: https://twitter.com/nsstudios_co company's facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nsstudios.co private twitter: https://twitter.com/nikola_stojsic web site: http://www.nsstudiosweb.com mobile phone: +381665105695 ] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
While I won't use it until I do have to get a new PC, I think this idea is a good one for those that currently, or in the future, might be interested in just such an animal. Thanks. --- Real Presidents don't apologize for their Country, and Real First Ladies are ALWAYS Proud of their Country! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:45 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi tom. thats really cool news. I aquired the files from a friend, and I am sure happy I have them though sadly my friend's system died, and he lost the origional cds with the files on them so if I lose them thats it. I would be interested for a patch though for 64 bit. For one thing, even though I would eventually buy actual voices ivona or something the fact is the only time I use sapi at all its for gaming. I have tried using highquality synths on this 32 bit unit and there are major delays and mispronounciations in the voices. Even so to at least be able to play games would really rock. At 12:45 p.m. 17/07/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Legally, find someone you know that has jaws 8 9 or 10 and doesn't want their cd. Or buy the voices. If not well At 05:49 p.m. 17/07/2012 +0100, you wrote: I don't have the disc, but I want the voices... what do I do. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 17 July 2012 17:46 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5136 - Release Date: 07/16/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen.
Thats a point. I think there should be rules in a file somewhere. I myself havn't played or heard any baseball broadcasts. I have just muddled through. At 05:50 p.m. 17/07/2012 +0100, you wrote: It aint that easy: if you aint played the games, you don't know the rules. And if you don't know the rules, you can't play the games. If you see what I'm getting at. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 17 July 2012 17:21 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen. Hi Jim, Yes, in deed. Both your Baseball and Football game do a good job of handling the rules and specifics for the game player. Although, I am familiar with both I haven't had to actually had to know anything about Baseball or Football to play them. So someone from the U.K. or somewhere else should just be able to pick up and play without much experience with the sport itself. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Ben, I don't think that you really need to know all of the rules of baseball to play my game. When you are in the field you basically just pick which pitch to throw. And then when you are up to bat, all you do is to try to hit the ball. The game pretty much takes care of all of the rules. I believe pretty much the same goes for my game of American football. BFN Jim If you play by the rules, you're gonna miss all the fun. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5136 - Release Date: 07/16/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Tom, Good idea. While I don't have the OS, eventually at some time in the future I will, and that would be beneficial not only to me but others like myself. Good job! al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:45 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
ey Tom, this is great news. Please ship the patch so that we can use the older voices with Jaws and win 7 in the 64 bit processor world this way please. Many Many thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:45 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
One Win7 X64 user here who'd appreciate the patch. Good work sir! Scott On 7/17/12, Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net wrote: Hi Tom, Good idea. While I don't have the OS, eventually at some time in the future I will, and that would be beneficial not only to me but others like myself. Good job! al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:45 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hwy Rom. Isn't the voices out on the HJ web page somewhere? Matt and I are looking for our old disk as well. many many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Ben, Sorry, I can't help you there. The only way I can legally do this is if you actually own the Realspeak software disc that shipped with your Freedom Scientific product such as Openbook 8, Jaws 8, Jaws 9, etc. If you don't own the disc or threw it away I can't just zip up the patched disc and voices and give them to you as that would be software piracy. The best I can do is upload a little patch that fixes the Realspeak software installer to allow them to run on 64-bit Windows for people who own the original software media. My goal here isn't to pirate the software, but simply fix the setup so people can use them on new laptop and desktop machines running Windows 7 and Windows 8. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: I don't have the disc, but I want the voices... what do I do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Jacob, I know. Freedom Scientific created a special launch condition in their setup installer to prevent the voices from being installed on a 64-bit computer. I don't know why because once I built a new installer and installed them the voices work fine. You have to configure them via the 32-bit control panel if you want to use them, but that is no big deal. I've got Realspeak Tom working with NVDA on a 64-bit system without issue now. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote: I would definitely be interested - have the full CD image of scansoft/realSpeak install already copied to my backup drive, but currently only have it installed inside my windows XP virtual machine, since windows7 64 bit wouldn't run the install. TIA Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Ron, No, not the Sapi versions of the Realspeak voices. The only Realspeak voices available from the Freedom Scientific site are the Realspeak Direct voices specifically tied to Jaws and Openbook. Those will not work with games, other screen readers, and third-party programs like Textaloud. That's why I hunted down my Realspeak CD with the Sapi voices on it and began tinkering with the setup program. I want to be able to use those voices on my Windows 7 64-bit machine with NVDA, games, and other programs, and I don't want to pay Nuance a small fortune for the same voices I already have. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: Hwy Rom. Isn't the voices out on the HJ web page somewhere? Matt and I are looking for our old disk as well. many many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Shaun, Same here. Most of the time when I use Sapi voices it is for games like Entombed. When I got my Toshiba I was furious that the Realspeak voices wouldn't install because when I play Entombed I like having Realspeak Daniel. Using Microsoft Anna with Entombed just don't do it for me. Same could be said for a lot of Jim Kitchens games. Realspeak Tom makes a good announcer for Baseball and Football and I quit playing both on my laptop because I absolutely could not, would not, use Anna. So I decided to make the Realspeak voices work. :D Cheers! On 7/17/12, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hi tom. thats really cool news. I aquired the files from a friend, and I am sure happy I have them though sadly my friend's system died, and he lost the origional cds with the files on them so if I lose them thats it. I would be interested for a patch though for 64 bit. For one thing, even though I would eventually buy actual voices ivona or something the fact is the only time I use sapi at all its for gaming. I have tried using highquality synths on this 32 bit unit and there are major delays and mispronounciations in the voices. Even so to at least be able to play games would really rock. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Darren, Smile Its coming. I just want to make sure this works on a few more machines than mine. However, I have the patch created, and so far so good. I need to write up some documentation before I release it to make sure everyone is clear on what is involved. On 7/17/12, Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com wrote: Hey if you have the patch I would be interested. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
So they won't work with JAWS? Theyj'll only work with NVA? We can find our old CD-Rom with the god old 32 bit voice on it if you can get them to work in the new 64 bit processor world. Many Many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:25 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Ron, No, not the Sapi versions of the Realspeak voices. The only Realspeak voices available from the Freedom Scientific site are the Realspeak Direct voices specifically tied to Jaws and Openbook. Those will not work with games, other screen readers, and third-party programs like Textaloud. That's why I hunted down my Realspeak CD with the Sapi voices on it and began tinkering with the setup program. I want to be able to use those voices on my Windows 7 64-bit machine with NVDA, games, and other programs, and I don't want to pay Nuance a small fortune for the same voices I already have. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: Hwy Rom. Isn't the voices out on the HJ web page somewhere? Matt and I are looking for our old disk as well. many many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
This does interest me a bit. I haven't previously used the voices, but that's mostly because I didn't like them with jaws. I'd certainly like to see how they work in just a gaming environment. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:45:49 -0400 Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
They should work with jaws, under it's setting to make use of sapi synthesizer as such. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows So they won't work with JAWS? Theyj'll only work with NVA? We can find our old CD-Rom with the god old 32 bit voice on it if you can get them to work in the new 64 bit processor world. Many Many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:25 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Ron, No, not the Sapi versions of the Realspeak voices. The only Realspeak voices available from the Freedom Scientific site are the Realspeak Direct voices specifically tied to Jaws and Openbook. Those will not work with games, other screen readers, and third-party programs like Textaloud. That's why I hunted down my Realspeak CD with the Sapi voices on it and began tinkering with the setup program. I want to be able to use those voices on my Windows 7 64-bit machine with NVDA, games, and other programs, and I don't want to pay Nuance a small fortune for the same voices I already have. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: Hwy Rom. Isn't the voices out on the HJ web page somewhere? Matt and I are looking for our old disk as well. many many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Quest and Informer.
Hello, To all of those who have used Quest and Informer. I am trying to find out which one is the best tool kit to use if you are totally blind? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
