Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking ForSomething New to Play
I agree with your original rampage, but I can see Tom's point, too. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking ForSomething New to Play Hi Thomas. I'm sorry, both to you and Shaun, it just gets me sometimes the attitude on here, the ingratitude. I never suggested James intended to cut and run, however he did and I personally paid for games which were never received such as Max Shrapnel. My problem lies in the fact that it looked like Shaun was ripping in to you, telling you to abandon MOTA and start again and I guess his email and the way it was phrased got my goat up. I am just as keen as everyone else to see new games developed for the AG community, however they aren't or at least not as rapidly, certainly not as intensely being produced, so anyone flaming or otherwise discouraging fellow developers has to be resisted if not squashed before it gets started right? Everyone has their bugbears and that was just mine, it certainly wasn't my intention to piss anyone off. All the best, Ibrahim. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:48 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play Hi all, I'm coming to this post a bit late, but please let's stop the flaming here. No matter how we all feel about the unfortunate situation with James North, what was it, six years ago its really passed time to put it behind us. I can understand your frustration with some list members such as Shaun but ripping him a new one on list isn't the way to handle it. :D Ibrahim, regarding the games James North had in production I said this before and I will say it again I am certain it wasn't his intent to take the money and run. After all, I have in my possession the source code for three different games he was working on, and know for a fact he was working on them. However, it is my belief the stress, the pressure, the demands of certain individuals in this community that resulted in him just throwing in the towel and walking away from it all. Leaving as he did was wrong, but its also understandable. End of story. On 3/25/13, Ibrahim Gucukoglu ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com wrote: Hi Shaun. Jesus Christ, Shaun, your attitude absolutely sucks. James North was a brilliant innovator, his games are testaments to what can be achieved with diligence, commitment and passion. Sadly James lost that passion because of individuals like you, always pushing for more, always wining about inadequacies, always piling on the pressure for this and that to be released. James might have been a negligent developer in the end, he might have lost interest and heart in the blind community, but it was only because of the base ingratitude of so many people. In the end, I wouldn't have been surprised if he wasn't above ripping off people with promises of games he never intended to release, or perhaps he did, but put them on the back burner. Whatever, he had a life too, and so far in my soul opinion, games like Monkey Business, ESP Pinball Classic, Chain Reaction, Alien Outback and Dynaman just go to show the wide range of his talents as a developer. The blind gaming community lost a true innovator when he stopped developing and disappeared, I doubt he'd ever have anything to do with the blind strata of society ever again after what he experienced. Now you dare to take pot shots at Thomas Ward who out of his own pocket for the most part is developing MOTA, I wouldn't be surprised if shits like you don't end up pushing us back to an age when all we can play are text based RPG and MUD games, text adventure and the like because no one wants to develop for us. Rant over, if you want to participate in our community, do it constructively, otherwise it might be wise for you to unsubscribe. All the best, Ibrahim. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play
no problem, I never started the stuff with james or pushed him, I heard things on here and ofcause the rumors and other junk never concentrated on it. I however was worried about burnout, james eventually did it and after tom saying he had motivational issues with his stuff I was scared of burn out. maybe I put to much of my worries into my mail, I sertainly don't speak the way I write they are 2 different things. At 06:06 PM 3/28/2013, you wrote: Hi Thomas. I'm sorry, both to you and Shaun, it just gets me sometimes the attitude on here, the ingratitude. I never suggested James intended to cut and run, however he did and I personally paid for games which were never received such as Max Shrapnel. My problem lies in the fact that it looked like Shaun was ripping in to you, telling you to abandon MOTA and start again and I guess his email and the way it was phrased got my goat up. I am just as keen as everyone else to see new games developed for the AG community, however they aren't or at least not as rapidly, certainly not as intensely being produced, so anyone flaming or otherwise discouraging fellow developers has to be resisted if not squashed before it gets started right? Everyone has their bugbears and that was just mine, it certainly wasn't my intention to piss anyone off. All the best, Ibrahim. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:48 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play Hi all, I'm coming to this post a bit late, but please let's stop the flaming here. No matter how we all feel about the unfortunate situation with James North, what was it, six years ago its really passed time to put it behind us. I can understand your frustration with some list members such as Shaun but ripping him a new one on list isn't the way to handle it. :D Ibrahim, regarding the games James North had in production I said this before and I will say it again I am certain it wasn't his intent to take the money and run. After all, I have in my possession the source code for three different games he was working on, and know for a fact he was working on them. However, it is my belief the stress, the pressure, the demands of certain individuals in this community that resulted in him just throwing in the towel and walking away from it all. Leaving as he did was wrong, but its also understandable. End of story. On 3/25/13, Ibrahim Gucukoglu ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com wrote: Hi Shaun. Jesus Christ, Shaun, your attitude absolutely sucks. James North was a brilliant innovator, his games are testaments to what can be achieved with diligence, commitment and passion. Sadly James lost that passion because of individuals like you, always pushing for more, always wining about inadequacies, always piling on the pressure for this and that to be released. James might have been a negligent developer in the end, he might have lost interest and heart in the blind community, but it was only because of the base ingratitude of so many people. In the end, I wouldn't have been surprised if he wasn't above ripping off people with promises of games he never intended to release, or perhaps he did, but put them on the back burner. Whatever, he had a life too, and so far in my soul opinion, games like Monkey Business, ESP Pinball Classic, Chain Reaction, Alien Outback and Dynaman just go to show the wide range of his talents as a developer. The blind gaming community lost a true innovator when he stopped developing and disappeared, I doubt he'd ever have anything to do with the blind strata of society ever again after what he experienced. Now you dare to take pot shots at Thomas Ward who out of his own pocket for the most part is developing MOTA, I wouldn't be surprised if shits like you don't end up pushing us back to an age when all we can play are text based RPG and MUD games, text adventure and the like because no one wants to develop for us. Rant over, if you want to participate in our community, do it constructively, otherwise it might be wise for you to unsubscribe. All the best, Ibrahim. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: LookingForSomething New to Play
Hi Thomas, You know I love the challenge of creating games, but I also want to be able to play them. Guess that is why my games are card games, board games, sports games, arcade games etc with so much dependency on random events. I can play them and actually have no advantage over others that play them. Don't think that I ever won any of the golf tournaments that I have been in. Had the best time on some Mach 1 tracks, but not always. And others do get better scores in such games as Puppy 1 etc. I am thinking about it, but am not sure if it would work out well to randomize the rooms in Dungeon Master. You might end up having to explore the entire castle looking for the item that you need for the first lady slash room. Or you might right off get the cell phone. But you would need to find the pantry before long. Sure was a fun game to design and create, but I have not played it over and over like some of my other games. BFN Jim I'm looking for some good Easter grass. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with game related matter.
The games I posted about are very similar to pokemon. Also, most of the pokemon games for the gameboy are playable with a good walkthrough and some memorization. -- From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:16 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Help with game related matter. Hello. Early on Wensday morning, Shadow Dragon had mention a couple games for the iPhone. I had asked a question, but I wasn't sure if it got to the list. So I will ask again to be sure. Are there any Pokemon games that a blind person can play? Or is there any games that are very similar to Pokemon that a blind person can play? Thanks, and sorry if I had posted twice! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: LookingForSomething New to Play
Hi Jim, Oh, I do see the problem. I admit that after I beat the Dungeon Master game I haven't played it more than a couple of times just because there is nothing new to it. The ladies are different, but other than that its essentially all the same right down to the descriptions and such. It would help if when you were having sex with a girl, for example, if it had a dozen different descriptions of the act in progress to choose from at random. Perhaps some girls like more of this or that. As it stands now the girls lack personality and it doesn't matter if the girl is Jenny or Michelle you are going to get the exact same reaction and response each and every time. In short, the game has an nice concept with some bondage and discipline, but the player has absolutely no control over the action and no variation from game to game. For example, the woman in the room with the fireplace gets off by being spanked with a cane. No problem, but what if I want to spank the girl tied to the table or the one laying in the bedroom? Well, it doesn't do anything and it would be nice if I could get some reaction from the girls like that feels good or do it again rather than the default response. It might not bee enough to fully excite her, but should give me a bit of pleasure of teasing her using various other means before bringing her to climax. Like I said I just grew board with the game because it didn't seem like that there was much to do. I could think of a hundred different ways to play out a scenario, but the game wasn't designed to do it that way. So I gave up on it.. Cheers! On 3/28/13, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, You know I love the challenge of creating games, but I also want to be able to play them. Guess that is why my games are card games, board games, sports games, arcade games etc with so much dependency on random events. I can play them and actually have no advantage over others that play them. Don't think that I ever won any of the golf tournaments that I have been in. Had the best time on some Mach 1 tracks, but not always. And others do get better scores in such games as Puppy 1 etc. I am thinking about it, but am not sure if it would work out well to randomize the rooms in Dungeon Master. You might end up having to explore the entire castle looking for the item that you need for the first lady slash room. Or you might right off get the cell phone. But you would need to find the pantry before long. Sure was a fun game to design and create, but I have not played it over and over like some of my other games. BFN Jim --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play
Hi Ibrahim, Yes, I do see what you mean. I get a little sick and tired of the ingratitude. of some people too, but I've reached a point where its just words and it doesn't matter any more. I just let it roll off me rather than let it get to me. While I agree Shaun's message was misplaced, kind of irritated me too at the suggestion of just scrapping all the work I've done, I understand the intent behind that suggestion. As Shaun himself has said he was worried about me burning out, and he felt it would be better if I just cut my losses and started over fresh. If I weren't the person I am I might just slap together an old beta, release it, and call it quits. However, that wouldn't be moral or ethical and I am inclined not to do something like that if I can help it which is why I do intend a resolution to the preorder situation as soon as I can do so. :D Cheers! On 3/28/13, Ibrahim Gucukoglu ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com wrote: Hi Thomas. I'm sorry, both to you and Shaun, it just gets me sometimes the attitude on here, the ingratitude. I never suggested James intended to cut and run, however he did and I personally paid for games which were never received such as Max Shrapnel. My problem lies in the fact that it looked like Shaun was ripping in to you, telling you to abandon MOTA and start again and I guess his email and the way it was phrased got my goat up. I am just as keen as everyone else to see new games developed for the AG community, however they aren't or at least not as rapidly, certainly not as intensely being produced, so anyone flaming or otherwise discouraging fellow developers has to be resisted if not squashed before it gets started right? Everyone has their bugbears and that was just mine, it certainly wasn't my intention to piss anyone off. All the best, Ibrahim. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] speaking of appls vis - Re: introduction
Hi Charles, Well, I'm not sure what to say. I went to Applevis.com and clicked on a couple of podasts and could bring them up in my default player, stream them from the website, but I couldn't find anyway to download them. I'm using Firefox 19 so its not an Internet Explorer issue. On 3/28/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: That's strange, because I used to be able to download them. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] speaking of appls vis - Re: introduction
Hi Charles and Thomas, I went to the AppleVis site and found that I could download the mp3 file.For example, Create and Share Ice Cream Cones and Sundaes on Your iDevice, with More Sundaes! Posted on Monday 25 March 2013 In this podcast, Cherokee Eagle gives us a demonstration of More Sundaes!, an iOS app that enables you to make, decorate, eat and share virtual ice cream sundaes and ice cream cones on your iDevice. Read more Podcast File: AppleVisPodcast355.mp3 I tabbed down to the link, AppleVisPodcast355.mp3 Hit my context key and chose save file. It works now. Maybe the site http://www.applevis.com/podcasts was down for some reason. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Inquiry From Popular Mechanics
Hello everyone, Here is a link to my articlehttp://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/video-games/how-to-mak-a-video-game-for-the-blind-15277536?click=pm_latest. Thank you very much! Best wishes, Ashley On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Ashley Taylor ashley.p.tay...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I am a journalist writing an article about computer games for the blind and would really appreciate your input. Please only reply to this post if you are willing for me to quote you in my article (for the Popular Mechanics website). It would be helpful if you could describe yourself as you'd like me to describe you in the article. What are the qualities of a good computer game for the blind? What does it have to have to work well for someone who can't see? For blind or visually impaired gamers, what are your favorite audio games, and why? Which games designed for sighted people are these most analogous to? What are some examples of games for the blind that I can play online? What do you think is the most interesting factoid about games for the blind? Thank you, Ashley -- Ashley Taylor Writer and journalist ashleyptaylor.com (270) 485-1753 -- Ashley Taylor Writer and journalist ashleyptaylor.com (270) 485-1753 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] cyber assault players needed to ask questions to
Got a few quetsions to ask a person playing cyber assault. If anyone plays cyber assault mud please contact me off list at ks.steinbac...@gmail.com Thanks Keith --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Inquiry From Popular Mechanics
thanks for the article ashly. this is quite good. At 11:19 AM 3/29/2013, you wrote: Hello everyone, Here is a link to my articlehttp://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/video-games/how-to-mak-a-video-game-for-the-blind-15277536?click=pm_latest. Thank you very much! Best wishes, Ashley On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Ashley Taylor ashley.p.tay...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I am a journalist writing an article about computer games for the blind and would really appreciate your input. Please only reply to this post if you are willing for me to quote you in my article (for the Popular Mechanics website). It would be helpful if you could describe yourself as you'd like me to describe you in the article. What are the qualities of a good computer game for the blind? What does it have to have to work well for someone who can't see? For blind or visually impaired gamers, what are your favorite audio games, and why? Which games designed for sighted people are these most analogous to? What are some examples of games for the blind that I can play online? What do you think is the most interesting factoid about games for the blind? Thank you, Ashley -- Ashley Taylor Writer and journalist ashleyptaylor.com (270) 485-1753 -- Ashley Taylor Writer and journalist ashleyptaylor.com (270) 485-1753 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] speaking of appls vis - Re: introduction
Hi Phil, Perhaps. I'll have to try it again once I get a chance. At the time I was in a bit of a hurry so really didn't try and diagnose the issues. On 3/28/13, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote: Hi Charles and Thomas, I went to the AppleVis site and found that I could download the mp3 file.For example, Create and Share Ice Cream Cones and Sundaes on Your iDevice, with More Sundaes! Posted on Monday 25 March 2013 In this podcast, Cherokee Eagle gives us a demonstration of More Sundaes!, an iOS app that enables you to make, decorate, eat and share virtual ice cream sundaes and ice cream cones on your iDevice. Read more Podcast File: AppleVisPodcast355.mp3 I tabbed down to the link, AppleVisPodcast355.mp3 Hit my context key and chose save file. It works now. Maybe the site http://www.applevis.com/podcasts was down for some reason. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
