no problem, I never started the stuff with james or pushed him, I
heard things on here and ofcause the rumors and other junk never
concentrated on it.
I however was worried about burnout, james eventually did it and
after tom saying he had motivational issues with his stuff I was
scared of burn out.
maybe I put to much of my worries into my mail, I sertainly don't
speak the way I write they are 2 different things.
At 06:06 PM 3/28/2013, you wrote:
Hi Thomas.
I'm sorry, both to you and Shaun, it just gets me sometimes the
attitude on here, the ingratitude. I never suggested James intended
to cut and run, however he did and I personally paid for games which
were never received such as Max Shrapnel. My problem lies in the
fact that it looked like Shaun was ripping in to you, telling you to
abandon MOTA and start again and I guess his email and the way it
was phrased got my goat up. I am just as keen as everyone else to
see new games developed for the AG community, however they aren't or
at least not as rapidly, certainly not as intensely being produced,
so anyone flaming or otherwise discouraging fellow developers has to
be resisted if not squashed before it gets started right? Everyone
has their bugbears and that was just mine, it certainly wasn't my
intention to piss anyone off.
All the best, Ibrahim.
-----Original Message----- From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:48 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking
For Something New to Play
Hi all,
I'm coming to this post a bit late, but please let's stop the flaming
here. No matter how we all feel about the unfortunate situation with
James North, what was it, six years ago its really passed time to put
it behind us. I can understand your frustration with some list members
such as Shaun but ripping him a new one on list isn't the way to
handle it. :D
Ibrahim, regarding the games James North had in production I said
this before and I will say it again I am certain it wasn't his intent
to take the money and run. After all, I have in my possession the
source code for three different games he was working on, and know for
a fact he was working on them. However, it is my belief the stress,
the pressure, the demands of certain individuals in this community
that resulted in him just throwing in the towel and walking away from
it all. Leaving as he did was wrong, but its also understandable. End
of story.
On 3/25/13, Ibrahim Gucukoglu <ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com> wrote:
Hi Shaun.
Jesus Christ, Shaun, your attitude absolutely sucks. James North was a
brilliant innovator, his games are testaments to what can be achieved with
diligence, commitment and passion. Sadly James lost that passion because of
individuals like you, always pushing for more, always wining about
inadequacies, always piling on the pressure for this and that to be
released. James might have been a negligent developer in the end, he might
have lost interest and heart in the blind community, but it was only because
of the base ingratitude of so many people. In the end, I wouldn't have been
surprised if he wasn't above ripping off people with promises of games he
never intended to release, or perhaps he did, but put them on the back
burner. Whatever, he had a life too, and so far in my soul opinion, games
like Monkey Business, ESP Pinball Classic, Chain Reaction, Alien Outback and
Dynaman just go to show the wide range of his talents as a developer. The
blind gaming community lost a true innovator when he stopped developing and
disappeared, I doubt he'd ever have anything to do with the blind strata of
society ever again after what he experienced. Now you dare to take pot
shots at Thomas Ward who out of his own pocket for the most part is
developing MOTA, I wouldn't be surprised if shits like you don't end up
pushing us back to an age when all we can play are text based RPG and MUD
games, text adventure and the like because no one wants to develop for us.
Rant over, if you want to participate in our community, do it
constructively, otherwise it might be wise for you to unsubscribe.
All the best, Ibrahim.
---
Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org
If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org.
You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org.
All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org.
If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list,
please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
---
Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org
If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org.
You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org.
All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org.
If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list,
please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
---
Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org
If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org.
You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org.
All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org.
If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list,
please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
