[Audyssey] Space Invaders on Atari Flashback 4 -was- Re: game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Cara Quinn
Just as a note,

the version of Space Invaders on the Atari Flashback 4 is actually the arcade 
version rather than the 2600 version in case anyone is interested.

Smiles,

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On May 22, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Thomas Ward  wrote:

Hi Dark,

Yeah, I am pretty sure there were color variations of the game out
there, and I believe that was the main difference between the Atari
2600 and Atari 7800 versions. Plus keep in mind there were two
different Atari 2600's released. There was the original 2600 consoles
from the early 80's and there was a much newer Atari 2600 that came
out in the late 80's along side the 7800models.  So it is entirely
possible yours was a later edition of Space Invaders as they did
release updated versions of their 2600 catalog before going under.

Cheers!


On 5/22/14, dark  wrote:
> Hi Tom.
> 
> Wow! I bet original space invaders on a 78 inch projector was cool. I
> currently have my snes, Pc and gamecube plugged into a 42 inch flatscreen,
> which is pretty awsome after years of playing on standard sized tv screens,
> 
> but I'm still jealous! :D.
> 
> Back when we had the atari 2600 we were on a 15 inch tv, so no, I don't
> imagine the invaders were very clear.
> 
> I also however do wonder if there was a different version of space invaders.
> 
> The one we had on the Atari 2600 had the invaders in rows and columns, but
> if I remember rightly the invaders were yellow, and the shields between you
> 
> and them were orange while your gun was green. it also had a two player
> option with one green gun and one purple gun.
> 
> I have played a version with red invaders and blue shields on one of those
> multi game consoles that have hundreds of games on one machine and you just
> 
> plug into the tv.
> 
> I suppose though just like Packman and several other games at the time,
> there were various different versions of space invaders around and it's
> entirely possible that the first one I played wasn't the original.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Dark.
> 
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Re: [Audyssey] social event versus mechanics

2014-05-22 Thread Cara Quinn
HI Thomas,

when I and a group of people would play Audio quake, we would also get on 
TeamTalk so we could talk with each other in real time as we were playing each 
other in the game. So we could be talking all kinds of smack and be hunting 
each other down / hiding from each other at the same time. :)

Was loads o' fun! :)

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On May 22, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Thomas Ward  wrote:

Hi Dark,

Interesting point. I don't have anything against social games per se,
but my issue is I just don't often have anyone else to play with thus
turn to single player games to amuse myself to keep from getting
bored. That's why certain games that would be fun with more than one
player I just don't get into, even when they have an online mode, as I
have grown use to my own company verses the company of others.

That said, if I have someone to play with such as my son I enjoy
playing card and board games because we can talk, joke, and compete
against one another. The difference here is the face to face aspect
verses playing online in the Blind Adrenaline card rooms which is
okay, but not the same experience. So I think a lot has to do with,
for me at least,if that social interaction is face to face rather than
over a network connection.

Cheers!


On 5/22/14, dark  wrote:
> Hi charlse.
> 
> I agree Ten pin alley is a social game, however interestingly enough that
> was the very reason I didn't buy it, sinse I don't really get chance to play
> 
> audio games with people at the same computer very often (when my friends
> turn up we do tabeltop rp), and thus for me the main fun of games is as a
> single player and I just felt the single player experience of Ten Pin Alley
> 
> wasn't really enough to warrent me buying the game.
> 
> Another example is Mississippi. again, it looked a nice game to play with
> other people at the same machine, but with no computer opponents the single
> 
> player game just didn't seem much fun.
> 
> I hadn't actually thought of this before, but it is entirely possible that
> for some people, maybe even quite a few people, games that are purely!
> social and have less to offer a solo player (including games with computer
> opponentns), might actually be something of a turn off.
> 
> Beware the grue!
> 
> Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] Porting Solara Data

2014-05-22 Thread Brice Mellen
Unfortunately solara isn't available on android.

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> Hi all. Is it possible to port my game data from iOS to Android in Solara.
> If so, how?
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Re: [Audyssey] Super liam

2014-05-22 Thread Bryan Peterson
Just run for the portal.

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> On May 22, 2014, at 12:48 AM, ishan dhami  wrote:
> 
> Hi friends can you help me in super liam?
> I don't know how to escape this enemy which I encounter in lawa lake act two
> near the portal there is an enemy I shoot him but he is not dead then
> I ducked and jumped but all stratagies aren't working.
> O dood open the door!
> Maxwell gale hitting sixes and four!
> Smilee!
> Ishan
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Re: [Audyssey] some suggestions and comments for better audio games

2014-05-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ron,

Well, adding force feedback support to audio games is not a problem in
of itself. The problem is that when I did a poll some time back that
very few blind gamers actually have such devices. Only a handful have
joysticks, gamepads, and gaming mice which unfortunately means that a
developer has to do a fair amount of extra work that is only
beneficial to a small minority of gamers. The question becomes will
doing the work increase the number of people who have such devices, or
is the developer only doing the work for a small minority of gamers?

The other issue is you are talking about finding a USB combo that
works well for hand and feet. The problem is that the mainstream
community is moving away from such devices as far as the PC goes.
There is plenty of controllers for the Play Station, Wii, XBox, etc
but I've noticed a lack in controllers for the PC for quite a while
now.  These days it seems the best we can get is a gamepad, a racing
wheel, or a flight stick, but there aren't that many to choose from.
Especially, combos with hand and foot control. So I don't have an
answer when the hardware itself simply isn't there to begin with.

Cheers!



On 5/15/14, Ron Kolesar  wrote:
> Let me add my two cents to this thread. SMILES.
> How about
> 1. adding force feedback to all hand to ear games and or hand to ear
> simulators?
> 2. How about finding a universal USB package for both the ands and feet to
> make the games more realistic and to have a optional input device besides
> the old keyboard.
> Just a thought.
>
>
>
> Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
> "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week."
> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas Ward
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:20 PM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] some suggestions and comments for better audio
> games
>
> Hi Sky,
>
> Well, I do believe there was an accessible clone created based on
> Frogger, but the game Bryan and I are talking about is an old Atari
> game from the early 1980's called Frogger. The basic idea is that you
> are a little green frog trying to make it back to your home. In order
> to do that you have to cross a busy highway with trucks and cars, then
> get passed a river with crocodiles, and eventually make it to your
> home. The original game certainly is not accessible, but you may have
> to see about that accessible version I mentioned.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On 5/14/14, Sky Mundell  wrote:
>> Hi Thomas, is frogger a game for the blind?
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Tempest, an audio thought experiment -was- Re: game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Kate,
Well, there is probably a way to make those games accessible. Just
requires a bit of thought. In fact, I have been thinking of ways to
make Centipede accessible, and I think it can be done. The key to it
is making each part of the centipede have a unique sound so you can
focus in and shoot them when they break apart and start coming after
you.

Cheers!


On 5/21/14, Caitlyn and Maggie  wrote:
> I used to play centipede and cuebert for hours.  Not sure how these games
> would be made accessable.
>
> Probably good that I am not sighted anymore, I'd be gaming in all my free
> time!
> Cait
>

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Re: [Audyssey] menus was: Re: game taste was: Re: regardingtemporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Well, that is the purpose of a beta version. If VGA releases a beta of
the game I am sure the VI community will not hesitate to send feedback
about what they liked, didn't like, and what they would like to see
change. If the community would like to see more hot keys than menus or
so on they'll make it known. A developer can get a lot of insight when
running betas of what worked and what didn't.

Cheers!


On 5/22/14, dark  wrote:
> Hi Tom.
>
> I did mean to actually address the idea of hotkeys, I jut forgot to write it
>
> into the message being as I was woffling on about adventure games too much
> :D.
>
> Vg's first game, interceptor is a turn based tactical space combat game. it
>
> is very different from trek 2000, sinse you have one spaceship with several
>
> different weapons and onboard systems which you manage in detail and fight
> turn based battles against a number of different types of alien ships.
>
> The closest thing I've seen to it is the combat in the Ios game Star traders
>
> elite, but interceptor looked very different especially in the number of
> options you have at any given time.
>
> I think menus will work fine for the game, and actually I'm looking forward
>
> to trying it, I'm just not sure as I said about menus for everything.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] social event versus mechanics

2014-05-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Interesting point. I don't have anything against social games per se,
but my issue is I just don't often have anyone else to play with thus
turn to single player games to amuse myself to keep from getting
bored. That's why certain games that would be fun with more than one
player I just don't get into, even when they have an online mode, as I
have grown use to my own company verses the company of others.

That said, if I have someone to play with such as my son I enjoy
playing card and board games because we can talk, joke, and compete
against one another. The difference here is the face to face aspect
verses playing online in the Blind Adrenaline card rooms which is
okay, but not the same experience. So I think a lot has to do with,
for me at least,if that social interaction is face to face rather than
over a network connection.

Cheers!


On 5/22/14, dark  wrote:
> Hi charlse.
>
> I agree Ten pin alley is a social game, however interestingly enough that
> was the very reason I didn't buy it, sinse I don't really get chance to play
>
> audio games with people at the same computer very often (when my friends
> turn up we do tabeltop rp), and thus for me the main fun of games is as a
> single player and I just felt the single player experience of Ten Pin Alley
>
> wasn't really enough to warrent me buying the game.
>
> Another example is Mississippi. again, it looked a nice game to play with
> other people at the same machine, but with no computer opponents the single
>
> player game just didn't seem much fun.
>
> I hadn't actually thought of this before, but it is entirely possible that
> for some people, maybe even quite a few people, games that are purely!
> social and have less to offer a solo player (including games with computer
> opponentns), might actually be something of a turn off.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] game menus

2014-05-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Precisely. That is why I have a similar f1 help system in my games. If
anyone happens to forget a keyboard command they can press f1 in MOTA
and go to the section of hot keys that relates to their type of
command and find out without having to refer to a manual etc.

Cheers!


On 5/22/14, dark  wrote:
> Hi jeremy.
>
> Firstly, this is where your context sensative menue help can really be
> handy, sinse then once on the firing menue a player could freely get the
> list of hot keys, and after playing a few times they'd be quite familiar
> with them.
>
> Look at shades of doom as an example of a game which uses virtually every
> key on the keyboard, but has become very popular precisely because! players
>
> always have quick access to finding out what keys they need for what purpose
>
> through the f1 menue.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] holes in shields

2014-05-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jeremy,

Not sure about using echo to denote damaged shields, but what I think
would work better is a low--pass filter. When your gun is under an
undamaged shield the sounds of the enemies above you are muted. If you
are under a damaged shield you can hear them through the cracks in the
shield as the filter would not be applied while under a crack or hole
in the shield. So muting and unmuting the sounds of enemies would be a
better indicator in my opinion of if a shield is damaged or undamaged.

Cheers!


On 5/21/14, Jeremy Brown  wrote:
> Thomas,
>
> Not a perfect solution, but perhaps this is a place where that reverb
> idea would come in handy.  Flat nonreflective sound for a whole
> shield, lot of echo for a hole.  It's somewhat similar to what I
> experience walking along.  If a wall or fence or other obstacle is to
> one side, that area feels blocked or cut off and sounds differently
> than an open space.  It's not a perfect fit, and might get lost in
> multiple attack noises, but it's a possibility.
>
> One other thing that occurred to me would be instead of lining up
> pitch, line up rhythm.  If the alien noise had a certain rhythm and
> when you lined up your cannon your ship noise matched this rhythm then
> you would be set to target.  Sort of the sonic equivalent of lining up
> two images of an object to overlap.  This is similar in concept to
> pitch, but would use a slightly different mechanic.  This could  be
> used to represent height as well.  A more rapid rhythm in the sound
> might = lower for instance.
>
> Just a couple of thoughts, it's late, so it's probable that I'm babbling.
>
> Jeremy
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[Audyssey] Entombed Recordings

2014-05-22 Thread leo
Hi,

 

Just asking if anyone has any good recordings of Entombed.  If so,  could
you please provide me with a link to these recordings?  Thanks,  Leo

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Re: [Audyssey] Grail to the Thief reaches KickStarter goal.

2014-05-22 Thread Shaun Everiss
I agree as long as we can still get the game directly like smuglers 
is thats fine.
I won't be buying something that is on steam because steam is not 
accessable and I don't use it.


At 01:05 a.m. 21/05/2014, you wrote:

Sorry for the way delayed reply.
I have to say that it's interesting that this is being done. It might
be interesting to see it work. It's good to see it maybe get on Steam,
even though Steam isn't accessible to us right now.
I wonder how theyre going to set this game up to be interesting and
enjoyable to blind and sighted alike.

On 5/1/14, Phil Vlasak  wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> Congratulations to For All To Play
> They reached their $8,00 goal for developing a  for Windows, Mac OS X, and
> Linux game.
> They only need $816 to reach their Mobile Versions goal in the next 3 days.
> Grail to the Thief: An Interactive Audio Adventure
>
> by For All To Play
> from Worcester, MA
> Grail to the Thief is an interactive audio adventure for the blind and
> visually impaired.
> for Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux that can be played using only sound,
> without the need for visuals. The game has been designed with the needs of
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[Audyssey] Super liam

2014-05-22 Thread ishan dhami
Hi friends can you help me in super liam?
I don't know how to escape this enemy which I encounter in lawa lake act two
near the portal there is an enemy I shoot him but he is not dead then
I ducked and jumped but all stratagies aren't working.
O dood open the door!
Maxwell gale hitting sixes and four!
Smilee!
Ishan

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[Audyssey] Porting Solara Data

2014-05-22 Thread Hunter Jozwiak
Hi all. Is it possible to port my game data from iOS to Android in Solara.
If so, how?

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Re: [Audyssey] tom's black jack game

2014-05-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello Nicol,

To begin with the latest versions of Python for Simbian OS can always
be found at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pys60/
and if you have not already done so I'd swing by Sourceforge  and see
about getting a new sis setup package for Python. What you will want
is Python 2.5 or higher for s60 phones.

It sounds to me as though you grabbed a bad installer, and my
recommendation is to go to sourceforge and find the right sis file for
your phone, and one hopefully more up to date.

Cheers!


On 5/22/14, Nicol  wrote:
> Hi all
> I need some help please.
> I would very much like to play tom's black jack game on my nokia c5 phone.
> I am often away from home and I would very much  like to have a game I can
> play while not at home .
> Any help is much appreciated.
> I did a google search.
> IN google  I typed:
> Python interpreter for nokia c5
> Google gave  me  a lot of very confusing web sites.
> After lots of struggling on websites, I got an interpreter for nokia phones
> but I am unable  to install it.
> The filename is s61.sis
> Inside file manager on my phone, I press  the select button on this  file
> but I get an error message that says certificate expired.
> Any help is much appreciated.
>
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[Audyssey] Rsgames and Playroom

2014-05-22 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi all
I am on both now, usernames are challsworth2 and christopherh40 
respectively.

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Re: [Audyssey] tom's black jack game

2014-05-22 Thread Valiant8086
Try setting the date year earlier on the phone. Go 1 year at a time. Try to run 
the installer each time. If you get all the way to the year 2000 and it still 
won't you're out of luck. Don't skip years because it won't work with the date 
too early either.

Good luck

On May 22, 2014 10:13:07 AM EDT, Nicol  wrote:
>Hi all
>I need some help please.
>I would very much like to play tom's black jack game on my nokia c5
>phone.
>I am often away from home and I would very much  like to have a game I
>can
>play while not at home .
>Any help is much appreciated.
>I did a google search.
>IN google  I typed:
>Python interpreter for nokia c5
>Google gave  me  a lot of very confusing web sites.
>After lots of struggling on websites, I got an interpreter for nokia
>phones
>but I am unable  to install it.
>The filename is s61.sis
>Inside file manager on my phone, I press  the select button on this 
>file
>but I get an error message that says certificate expired.
>Any help is much appreciated.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan,

Just goes to prove my point. There are answers out there to some of
these problems in audio, but developers either don't know of them or
don't remember what has been tried before when developing their own
games. A particular answer just may not occur to a person at that time
and the fault of the game isn't that it can not be converted to audio
but just our own human shortcomings.

Cheers!


On 5/22/14, Bryan Peterson  wrote:
> I never even thought of the Gorbianthing. LOL.
>
>
>
> Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
> thy micturations are to me
> as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
> GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
> And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
> or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I
> don't!

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Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Cara,

I am not sure. Its possible the legacy version of the games on the
Atari Flashback take wide screen in to consideration, and they'd
almost have to considering most televisions now days all are for wide
screen formats.

I guess the games that are setup for full screen would behave more or
less like old movies in that you would just end up with black strips
to the left and right of the game screen, and the game itself would
appear in a square in the center of the screen. Hard for me to say for
sure since I have had non-functioning eyeballs for quite a while now,
and haven't really had to worry about how older things look on a newer
wide screen TV.

Cheers!


On 5/22/14, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> Am curious myself! :)
>
> I have been considering getting an Atari Flashback 4 and possibly a 2 and
> have a 60 inch 3D plasma screen so am wondering how games like Tempest etc
> would come off.
>
> Tempest was originally done in color vector graphics so looked absolutely
> amazingly cool in the arcade. I'm sure the legacy version on the Flashback
> is different though.
>
> It would be an excellent game for 3D. The TV itself is active 3D but also
> has a mode where it will take 2D content and create a pseudo 3D appearance
> so am just wondering if it might render some games nicely?
>
> I agree! Space Invaders, or any game for that matter, on a 78 inch screen
> would be quite something to see!
>
> Actually this brings up another point I'm curious about. My screen is a wide
> screen (as are pretty much all TVs now) and the older Atari games I'm sure
> were for full screen viewing so I wonder how they would render in a wide
> screen format?...
>
> It would be pretty funny-looking if all the invaders were in a little clump
> in the center of the screen! lol!
>
> Any ideas Thomas or others?...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cara :)
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Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Yeah, I am pretty sure there were color variations of the game out
there, and I believe that was the main difference between the Atari
2600 and Atari 7800 versions. Plus keep in mind there were two
different Atari 2600's released. There was the original 2600 consoles
from the early 80's and there was a much newer Atari 2600 that came
out in the late 80's along side the 7800models.  So it is entirely
possible yours was a later edition of Space Invaders as they did
release updated versions of their 2600 catalog before going under.

Cheers!


On 5/22/14, dark  wrote:
> Hi Tom.
>
> Wow! I bet original space invaders on a 78 inch projector was cool. I
> currently have my snes, Pc and gamecube plugged into a 42 inch flatscreen,
> which is pretty awsome after years of playing on standard sized tv screens,
>
> but I'm still jealous! :D.
>
> Back when we had the atari 2600 we were on a 15 inch tv, so no, I don't
> imagine the invaders were very clear.
>
> I also however do wonder if there was a different version of space invaders.
>
> The one we had on the Atari 2600 had the invaders in rows and columns, but
> if I remember rightly the invaders were yellow, and the shields between you
>
> and them were orange while your gun was green. it also had a two player
> option with one green gun and one purple gun.
>
> I have played a version with red invaders and blue shields on one of those
> multi game consoles that have hundreds of games on one machine and you just
>
> plug into the tv.
>
> I suppose though just like Packman and several other games at the time,
> there were various different versions of space invaders around and it's
> entirely possible that the first one I played wasn't the original.
>
> All the best,
>
> Dark.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Bryan Peterson
I don't know what allI have. I do have Pac-Man and Ms. Pac-Man, Missile 
Command, Space Invaders and a bunch of the other classics. Not all are 
really playable but I still enjoy them immensely. I grew up with them. My 
favorites are the Pac-Man games, Centipede, Millipede, Defender, Cosmic Ark, 
Kangaroo, Frogs and Flies. These are just a few. I also like Adventure but 
given that game's extremely sparse audio that one would be all but 
impossible to play. One of my goals in learning to programw as to create an 
audio remake or as close to it as possible.




Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: Cara Quinn

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:45 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Brian,

Just out of curiosity, which games do you have for the Atari?

which ones are your favs?

How easy are these to play without sight?

thanks and have a great day!

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On May 22, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Bryan Peterson  
wrote:


Wow. I may have to look into one. Yeah I do have a working Atari but it'd be 
nice to have a backup option in case the Atari itself ever went on the 
blink. My one question is if the Flashback could play games that used the 
paddle controllers.




Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!

-Original Message- From: Cara Quinn
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:06 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Hi Brian,

The Atari Flashback is a system which emulates old Atari 2600 and Jaguar 
games.


There are currently I believe, 6 or 7 generations / variations of this 
system which each have varying numbers of built-in games.


• Atari Flashback (20 games)

• Flashback 2 (40 games)

• Flashback 2+ (40 games - different than FB2)

• Flashback 3 (60 games)

• Flashback 64 (64 games)

• Flashback 4 (75 games)

• Flashback 4 (different version - 76 games)

These are all plug and play systems and the 2 has actual Atari 2600 hardware 
so it can be modded to accept original Atari cartridges.


There are also Atari 2600 junior systems which are meant to run original 
Atari cartridges which do not have built-in games.


Additionally, there are joystick versions of these plug and play emulation 
devices for the Atari 2600, which have smaller numbers of games in them.


There are also other emulation systems which emulate other consoles from the 
80s and 90s as well.


It's really amazing to see these older Atari games making revivals after so 
long. While these were way fun to play visually, for myself, I'm just not 
sure how well / fun these would carry over just listening to the rather 
well, older audio for hours on end. lol!


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On May 22, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Bryan Peterson  
wrote:


Atari Flashback?



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!

-Original Message- From: Cara Quinn
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:39 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Am curious myself! :)

I have been considering getting an Atari Flashback 4 and possibly a 2 and 
have a 60 inch 3D plasma screen so am wondering how games like Tempest etc 
would come off.


Tempest was originally done in color vector graphics so looked absolutely 
amazingly cool in the arcade. I'm sure the legacy version on the Flashback 
is different though.


It would be an excellent game for 3D. The TV itself is active 3D but also 
has a mode where it will take 2D content and create a pseudo 3D appearance 
so am just wondering if it might render some games nicely?


I agree! Space Invaders, or any game for that matter, on a 78 inch screen 
would be quite something to see!


Actually this brings up another point I'm curious about. My screen is a wide 
screen (as are pretty much all TVs now) and the older Atari games I'm sure 
were for full screen vi

Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Cara Quinn
Brian,

Just out of curiosity, which games do you have for the Atari?

which ones are your favs?

How easy are these to play without sight?

thanks and have a great day!

Cara :)
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On May 22, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Bryan Peterson  wrote:

Wow. I may have to look into one. Yeah I do have a working Atari but it'd be 
nice to have a backup option in case the Atari itself ever went on the blink. 
My one question is if the Flashback could play games that used the paddle 
controllers.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!
-Original Message- From: Cara Quinn
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:06 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Hi Brian,

The Atari Flashback is a system which emulates old Atari 2600 and Jaguar games.

There are currently I believe, 6 or 7 generations / variations of this system 
which each have varying numbers of built-in games.

• Atari Flashback (20 games)

• Flashback 2 (40 games)

• Flashback 2+ (40 games - different than FB2)

• Flashback 3 (60 games)

• Flashback 64 (64 games)

• Flashback 4 (75 games)

• Flashback 4 (different version - 76 games)

These are all plug and play systems and the 2 has actual Atari 2600 hardware so 
it can be modded to accept original Atari cartridges.

There are also Atari 2600 junior systems which are meant to run original Atari 
cartridges which do not have built-in games.

Additionally, there are joystick versions of these plug and play emulation 
devices for the Atari 2600, which have smaller numbers of games in them.

There are also other emulation systems which emulate other consoles from the 
80s and 90s as well.

It's really amazing to see these older Atari games making revivals after so 
long. While these were way fun to play visually, for myself, I'm just not sure 
how well / fun these would carry over just listening to the rather well, older 
audio for hours on end. lol!

Thanks,

Cara :)
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On May 22, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Bryan Peterson  wrote:

Atari Flashback?



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!
-Original Message- From: Cara Quinn
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:39 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Am curious myself! :)

I have been considering getting an Atari Flashback 4 and possibly a 2 and have 
a 60 inch 3D plasma screen so am wondering how games like Tempest etc would 
come off.

Tempest was originally done in color vector graphics so looked absolutely 
amazingly cool in the arcade. I'm sure the legacy version on the Flashback is 
different though.

It would be an excellent game for 3D. The TV itself is active 3D but also has a 
mode where it will take 2D content and create a pseudo 3D appearance so am just 
wondering if it might render some games nicely?

I agree! Space Invaders, or any game for that matter, on a 78 inch screen would 
be quite something to see!

Actually this brings up another point I'm curious about. My screen is a wide 
screen (as are pretty much all TVs now) and the older Atari games I'm sure were 
for full screen viewing so I wonder how they would render in a wide screen 
format?…

It would be pretty funny-looking if all the invaders were in a little clump in 
the center of the screen! lol!

Any ideas Thomas or others?…

Thanks,

Cara :)
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On May 22, 2014, at 1:23 AM, dark  wrote:

Hi Tom.

Wow! I bet original space invaders on a 78 inch projector was cool. I currently 
have my snes, Pc and gamecube plugged into a 42 inch flatscreen, which is 
pretty awsome after years of playing on standard sized tv screens, but I'm 
still jealous! :D.

Back when we had the atari 2600 we were on a 15 inch tv, so no, I don't imagine 
the invaders were very clear.

I also however do wonder if there was a different version of space invaders. 
The one we had on the Atari 2600 had the invaders in rows and columns, but if I 
remember rightly the invaders were yellow, and the shields between you and them 
w

Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Bryan Peterson

Very cool.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: Cara Quinn

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:40 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Hi again Brian,

If you were looking for a backup option, I would suggest either a Flashback 
2 (not a 2+) or an Atari 2600 junior.


The FB 2 can be modded to accept atari 2600 carts and the junior as I 
mentioned, is a clone of the original 2600.


HTH

Cara :)
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On May 22, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Bryan Peterson  
wrote:


Wow. I may have to look into one. Yeah I do have a working Atari but it'd be 
nice to have a backup option in case the Atari itself ever went on the 
blink. My one question is if the Flashback could play games that used the 
paddle controllers.




Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!

-Original Message- From: Cara Quinn
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:06 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Hi Brian,

The Atari Flashback is a system which emulates old Atari 2600 and Jaguar 
games.


There are currently I believe, 6 or 7 generations / variations of this 
system which each have varying numbers of built-in games.


• Atari Flashback (20 games)

• Flashback 2 (40 games)

• Flashback 2+ (40 games - different than FB2)

• Flashback 3 (60 games)

• Flashback 64 (64 games)

• Flashback 4 (75 games)

• Flashback 4 (different version - 76 games)

These are all plug and play systems and the 2 has actual Atari 2600 hardware 
so it can be modded to accept original Atari cartridges.


There are also Atari 2600 junior systems which are meant to run original 
Atari cartridges which do not have built-in games.


Additionally, there are joystick versions of these plug and play emulation 
devices for the Atari 2600, which have smaller numbers of games in them.


There are also other emulation systems which emulate other consoles from the 
80s and 90s as well.


It's really amazing to see these older Atari games making revivals after so 
long. While these were way fun to play visually, for myself, I'm just not 
sure how well / fun these would carry over just listening to the rather 
well, older audio for hours on end. lol!


Thanks,

Cara :)
---
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---
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On May 22, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Bryan Peterson  
wrote:


Atari Flashback?



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!

-Original Message- From: Cara Quinn
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:39 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Am curious myself! :)

I have been considering getting an Atari Flashback 4 and possibly a 2 and 
have a 60 inch 3D plasma screen so am wondering how games like Tempest etc 
would come off.


Tempest was originally done in color vector graphics so looked absolutely 
amazingly cool in the arcade. I'm sure the legacy version on the Flashback 
is different though.


It would be an excellent game for 3D. The TV itself is active 3D but also 
has a mode where it will take 2D content and create a pseudo 3D appearance 
so am just wondering if it might render some games nicely?


I agree! Space Invaders, or any game for that matter, on a 78 inch screen 
would be quite something to see!


Actually this brings up another point I'm curious about. My screen is a wide 
screen (as are pretty much all TVs now) and the older Atari games I'm sure 
were for full screen viewing so I wonder how they would render in a wide 
screen format?…


It would be pretty funny-looking if all the invaders were in a little clump 
in the center of the screen! lol!


Any ideas Thomas or others?…

Thanks,

Cara :)
---
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---
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On May 22, 2014, at 1:23 AM, dark  wrote:

Hi Tom.

Wow! I bet or

Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Bryan Peterson

Hmmm.Interesting. Definitely might look into that.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: Cara Quinn

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:37 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

HI Brian,

Yes they can.

The Flashbacks can use analog controllers but convert the signal to digital 
whereas I believe the Atari 2600 juniors are actually clones of the Atari 
2600 so I am assuming they would preserve the analog feel.


So far in my research, no one has complained about the movement of the 
paddles on the Flashbacks so I'm betting this is really a matter of how much 
of a purist are you? :)


Some Flashback systems come with a set of paddles and you can also purchase 
them on amazon (among other places) as well.


Smiles,

Cara :)
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---
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On May 22, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Bryan Peterson  
wrote:


Wow. I may have to look into one. Yeah I do have a working Atari but it'd be 
nice to have a backup option in case the Atari itself ever went on the 
blink. My one question is if the Flashback could play games that used the 
paddle controllers.




Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!

-Original Message- From: Cara Quinn
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:06 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Hi Brian,

The Atari Flashback is a system which emulates old Atari 2600 and Jaguar 
games.


There are currently I believe, 6 or 7 generations / variations of this 
system which each have varying numbers of built-in games.


• Atari Flashback (20 games)

• Flashback 2 (40 games)

• Flashback 2+ (40 games - different than FB2)

• Flashback 3 (60 games)

• Flashback 64 (64 games)

• Flashback 4 (75 games)

• Flashback 4 (different version - 76 games)

These are all plug and play systems and the 2 has actual Atari 2600 hardware 
so it can be modded to accept original Atari cartridges.


There are also Atari 2600 junior systems which are meant to run original 
Atari cartridges which do not have built-in games.


Additionally, there are joystick versions of these plug and play emulation 
devices for the Atari 2600, which have smaller numbers of games in them.


There are also other emulation systems which emulate other consoles from the 
80s and 90s as well.


It's really amazing to see these older Atari games making revivals after so 
long. While these were way fun to play visually, for myself, I'm just not 
sure how well / fun these would carry over just listening to the rather 
well, older audio for hours on end. lol!


Thanks,

Cara :)
---
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---
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http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

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On May 22, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Bryan Peterson  
wrote:


Atari Flashback?



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!

-Original Message- From: Cara Quinn
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:39 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Am curious myself! :)

I have been considering getting an Atari Flashback 4 and possibly a 2 and 
have a 60 inch 3D plasma screen so am wondering how games like Tempest etc 
would come off.


Tempest was originally done in color vector graphics so looked absolutely 
amazingly cool in the arcade. I'm sure the legacy version on the Flashback 
is different though.


It would be an excellent game for 3D. The TV itself is active 3D but also 
has a mode where it will take 2D content and create a pseudo 3D appearance 
so am just wondering if it might render some games nicely?


I agree! Space Invaders, or any game for that matter, on a 78 inch screen 
would be quite something to see!


Actually this brings up another point I'm curious about. My screen is a wide 
screen (as are pretty much all TVs now) and the older Atari games I'm sure 
were for full screen viewing so I wonder how they would render in a wide 
screen format?…


It would be pretty funny-looking if all the invaders were in a lit

Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi again Brian,

If you were looking for a backup option, I would suggest either a Flashback 2 
(not a 2+) or an Atari 2600 junior.

The FB 2 can be modded to accept atari 2600 carts and the junior as I 
mentioned, is a clone of the original 2600.

HTH

Cara :)
---
iOS design and development - LookTel.com
---
View my Online Portfolio at:

http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

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On May 22, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Bryan Peterson  wrote:

Wow. I may have to look into one. Yeah I do have a working Atari but it'd be 
nice to have a backup option in case the Atari itself ever went on the blink. 
My one question is if the Flashback could play games that used the paddle 
controllers.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!
-Original Message- From: Cara Quinn
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:06 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Hi Brian,

The Atari Flashback is a system which emulates old Atari 2600 and Jaguar games.

There are currently I believe, 6 or 7 generations / variations of this system 
which each have varying numbers of built-in games.

• Atari Flashback (20 games)

• Flashback 2 (40 games)

• Flashback 2+ (40 games - different than FB2)

• Flashback 3 (60 games)

• Flashback 64 (64 games)

• Flashback 4 (75 games)

• Flashback 4 (different version - 76 games)

These are all plug and play systems and the 2 has actual Atari 2600 hardware so 
it can be modded to accept original Atari cartridges.

There are also Atari 2600 junior systems which are meant to run original Atari 
cartridges which do not have built-in games.

Additionally, there are joystick versions of these plug and play emulation 
devices for the Atari 2600, which have smaller numbers of games in them.

There are also other emulation systems which emulate other consoles from the 
80s and 90s as well.

It's really amazing to see these older Atari games making revivals after so 
long. While these were way fun to play visually, for myself, I'm just not sure 
how well / fun these would carry over just listening to the rather well, older 
audio for hours on end. lol!

Thanks,

Cara :)
---
iOS design and development - LookTel.com
---
View my Online Portfolio at:

http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

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On May 22, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Bryan Peterson  wrote:

Atari Flashback?



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!
-Original Message- From: Cara Quinn
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:39 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Am curious myself! :)

I have been considering getting an Atari Flashback 4 and possibly a 2 and have 
a 60 inch 3D plasma screen so am wondering how games like Tempest etc would 
come off.

Tempest was originally done in color vector graphics so looked absolutely 
amazingly cool in the arcade. I'm sure the legacy version on the Flashback is 
different though.

It would be an excellent game for 3D. The TV itself is active 3D but also has a 
mode where it will take 2D content and create a pseudo 3D appearance so am just 
wondering if it might render some games nicely?

I agree! Space Invaders, or any game for that matter, on a 78 inch screen would 
be quite something to see!

Actually this brings up another point I'm curious about. My screen is a wide 
screen (as are pretty much all TVs now) and the older Atari games I'm sure were 
for full screen viewing so I wonder how they would render in a wide screen 
format?…

It would be pretty funny-looking if all the invaders were in a little clump in 
the center of the screen! lol!

Any ideas Thomas or others?…

Thanks,

Cara :)
---
iOS design and development - LookTel.com
---
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http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

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On May 22, 2014, at 1:23 AM, dark  wrote:

Hi Tom.

Wow! I bet original space invaders on a 78 inch projector was cool. I currently 
have my snes, Pc and gamecube plugged into a 42 inch flatscreen, which is 
pretty awsome after years of playing on standard sized tv screens, but I'm 
still jealous! :D.

Back when we had the atari 2600 we were on a 15 inch tv, so no, I don't imagine 
the invaders were very clear.

I also however do wonder if there was a different version of space invaders. 
The one we had on the Atari 2600 had the invaders in rows and columns, but if I 

Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Cara Quinn
HI Brian,

Yes they can.

The Flashbacks can use analog controllers but convert the signal to digital 
whereas I believe the Atari 2600 juniors are actually clones of the Atari 2600 
so I am assuming they would preserve the analog feel.

So far in my research, no one has complained about the movement of the paddles 
on the Flashbacks so I'm betting this is really a matter of how much of a 
purist are you? :)

Some Flashback systems come with a set of paddles and you can also purchase 
them on amazon (among other places) as well.

Smiles,

Cara :)
---
iOS design and development - LookTel.com
---
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http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

Follow me on Twitter!

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On May 22, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Bryan Peterson  wrote:

Wow. I may have to look into one. Yeah I do have a working Atari but it'd be 
nice to have a backup option in case the Atari itself ever went on the blink. 
My one question is if the Flashback could play games that used the paddle 
controllers.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!
-Original Message- From: Cara Quinn
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:06 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Hi Brian,

The Atari Flashback is a system which emulates old Atari 2600 and Jaguar games.

There are currently I believe, 6 or 7 generations / variations of this system 
which each have varying numbers of built-in games.

• Atari Flashback (20 games)

• Flashback 2 (40 games)

• Flashback 2+ (40 games - different than FB2)

• Flashback 3 (60 games)

• Flashback 64 (64 games)

• Flashback 4 (75 games)

• Flashback 4 (different version - 76 games)

These are all plug and play systems and the 2 has actual Atari 2600 hardware so 
it can be modded to accept original Atari cartridges.

There are also Atari 2600 junior systems which are meant to run original Atari 
cartridges which do not have built-in games.

Additionally, there are joystick versions of these plug and play emulation 
devices for the Atari 2600, which have smaller numbers of games in them.

There are also other emulation systems which emulate other consoles from the 
80s and 90s as well.

It's really amazing to see these older Atari games making revivals after so 
long. While these were way fun to play visually, for myself, I'm just not sure 
how well / fun these would carry over just listening to the rather well, older 
audio for hours on end. lol!

Thanks,

Cara :)
---
iOS design and development - LookTel.com
---
View my Online Portfolio at:

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On May 22, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Bryan Peterson  wrote:

Atari Flashback?



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!
-Original Message- From: Cara Quinn
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:39 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Am curious myself! :)

I have been considering getting an Atari Flashback 4 and possibly a 2 and have 
a 60 inch 3D plasma screen so am wondering how games like Tempest etc would 
come off.

Tempest was originally done in color vector graphics so looked absolutely 
amazingly cool in the arcade. I'm sure the legacy version on the Flashback is 
different though.

It would be an excellent game for 3D. The TV itself is active 3D but also has a 
mode where it will take 2D content and create a pseudo 3D appearance so am just 
wondering if it might render some games nicely?

I agree! Space Invaders, or any game for that matter, on a 78 inch screen would 
be quite something to see!

Actually this brings up another point I'm curious about. My screen is a wide 
screen (as are pretty much all TVs now) and the older Atari games I'm sure were 
for full screen viewing so I wonder how they would render in a wide screen 
format?…

It would be pretty funny-looking if all the invaders were in a little clump in 
the center of the screen! lol!

Any ideas Thomas or others?…

Thanks,

Cara :)
---
iOS design and development - LookTel.com
---
View my Online Portfolio at:

http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

Follow me on Twitter!

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On May 22, 2014, at 1:23 AM, dark  wrote:

Hi Tom.

Wow! I bet original space invaders on a 78 inch projector was cool. I currently 
have my snes, Pc and gamecube plugged into a 42 inch flatscreen, which is 
pretty awsome after years of playing on standard sized tv screens, but I'm 

Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Bryan Peterson
Wow. I may have to look into one. Yeah I do have a working Atari but it'd be 
nice to have a backup option in case the Atari itself ever went on the 
blink. My one question is if the Flashback could play games that used the 
paddle controllers.




Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: Cara Quinn

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:06 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Hi Brian,

The Atari Flashback is a system which emulates old Atari 2600 and Jaguar 
games.


There are currently I believe, 6 or 7 generations / variations of this 
system which each have varying numbers of built-in games.


• Atari Flashback (20 games)

• Flashback 2 (40 games)

• Flashback 2+ (40 games - different than FB2)

• Flashback 3 (60 games)

• Flashback 64 (64 games)

• Flashback 4 (75 games)

• Flashback 4 (different version - 76 games)

These are all plug and play systems and the 2 has actual Atari 2600 hardware 
so it can be modded to accept original Atari cartridges.


There are also Atari 2600 junior systems which are meant to run original 
Atari cartridges which do not have built-in games.


Additionally, there are joystick versions of these plug and play emulation 
devices for the Atari 2600, which have smaller numbers of games in them.


There are also other emulation systems which emulate other consoles from the 
80s and 90s as well.


It's really amazing to see these older Atari games making revivals after so 
long. While these were way fun to play visually, for myself, I'm just not 
sure how well / fun these would carry over just listening to the rather 
well, older audio for hours on end. lol!


Thanks,

Cara :)
---
iOS design and development - LookTel.com
---
View my Online Portfolio at:

http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

Follow me on Twitter!

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On May 22, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Bryan Peterson  
wrote:


Atari Flashback?



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!

-Original Message- From: Cara Quinn
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:39 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Am curious myself! :)

I have been considering getting an Atari Flashback 4 and possibly a 2 and 
have a 60 inch 3D plasma screen so am wondering how games like Tempest etc 
would come off.


Tempest was originally done in color vector graphics so looked absolutely 
amazingly cool in the arcade. I'm sure the legacy version on the Flashback 
is different though.


It would be an excellent game for 3D. The TV itself is active 3D but also 
has a mode where it will take 2D content and create a pseudo 3D appearance 
so am just wondering if it might render some games nicely?


I agree! Space Invaders, or any game for that matter, on a 78 inch screen 
would be quite something to see!


Actually this brings up another point I'm curious about. My screen is a wide 
screen (as are pretty much all TVs now) and the older Atari games I'm sure 
were for full screen viewing so I wonder how they would render in a wide 
screen format?…


It would be pretty funny-looking if all the invaders were in a little clump 
in the center of the screen! lol!


Any ideas Thomas or others?…

Thanks,

Cara :)
---
iOS design and development - LookTel.com
---
View my Online Portfolio at:

http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

Follow me on Twitter!

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On May 22, 2014, at 1:23 AM, dark  wrote:

Hi Tom.

Wow! I bet original space invaders on a 78 inch projector was cool. I 
currently have my snes, Pc and gamecube plugged into a 42 inch flatscreen, 
which is pretty awsome after years of playing on standard sized tv screens, 
but I'm still jealous! :D.


Back when we had the atari 2600 we were on a 15 inch tv, so no, I don't 
imagine the invaders were very clear.


I also however do wonder if there was a different version of space invaders. 
The one we had on the Atari 2600 had the invaders in rows and columns, but 
if I remember rightly the invaders were yellow, and the shields between you 
and them were orange while your gun was green. it also had a two player 
option with one green gun and one purple gun.


I have played a version with red invaders and blue shields on one of those 
multi game consoles that have hundreds of games on one machine and you just 
plug into the tv.


I suppose though just like Packman and several other games at the time, 
there were various differ

Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Brian,

The Atari Flashback is a system which emulates old Atari 2600 and Jaguar games.

There are currently I believe, 6 or 7 generations / variations of this system 
which each have varying numbers of built-in games.

• Atari Flashback (20 games)

• Flashback 2 (40 games)

• Flashback 2+ (40 games - different than FB2)

• Flashback 3 (60 games)

• Flashback 64 (64 games)

• Flashback 4 (75 games)

• Flashback 4 (different version - 76 games)

These are all plug and play systems and the 2 has actual Atari 2600 hardware so 
it can be modded to accept original Atari cartridges.

There are also Atari 2600 junior systems which are meant to run original Atari 
cartridges which do not have built-in games.

Additionally, there are joystick versions of these plug and play emulation 
devices for the Atari 2600, which have smaller numbers of games in them.

There are also other emulation systems which emulate other consoles from the 
80s and 90s as well.

It's really amazing to see these older Atari games making revivals after so 
long. While these were way fun to play visually, for myself, I'm just not sure 
how well / fun these would carry over just listening to the rather well, older 
audio for hours on end. lol!

Thanks,

Cara :)
---
iOS design and development - LookTel.com
---
View my Online Portfolio at:

http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

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On May 22, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Bryan Peterson  wrote:

Atari Flashback?



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!
-Original Message- From: Cara Quinn
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:39 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Am curious myself! :)

I have been considering getting an Atari Flashback 4 and possibly a 2 and have 
a 60 inch 3D plasma screen so am wondering how games like Tempest etc would 
come off.

Tempest was originally done in color vector graphics so looked absolutely 
amazingly cool in the arcade. I'm sure the legacy version on the Flashback is 
different though.

It would be an excellent game for 3D. The TV itself is active 3D but also has a 
mode where it will take 2D content and create a pseudo 3D appearance so am just 
wondering if it might render some games nicely?

I agree! Space Invaders, or any game for that matter, on a 78 inch screen would 
be quite something to see!

Actually this brings up another point I'm curious about. My screen is a wide 
screen (as are pretty much all TVs now) and the older Atari games I'm sure were 
for full screen viewing so I wonder how they would render in a wide screen 
format?…

It would be pretty funny-looking if all the invaders were in a little clump in 
the center of the screen! lol!

Any ideas Thomas or others?…

Thanks,

Cara :)
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On May 22, 2014, at 1:23 AM, dark  wrote:

Hi Tom.

Wow! I bet original space invaders on a 78 inch projector was cool. I currently 
have my snes, Pc and gamecube plugged into a 42 inch flatscreen, which is 
pretty awsome after years of playing on standard sized tv screens, but I'm 
still jealous! :D.

Back when we had the atari 2600 we were on a 15 inch tv, so no, I don't imagine 
the invaders were very clear.

I also however do wonder if there was a different version of space invaders. 
The one we had on the Atari 2600 had the invaders in rows and columns, but if I 
remember rightly the invaders were yellow, and the shields between you and them 
were orange while your gun was green. it also had a two player option with one 
green gun and one purple gun.

I have played a version with red invaders and blue shields on one of those 
multi game consoles that have hundreds of games on one machine and you just 
plug into the tv.

I suppose though just like Packman and several other games at the time, there 
were various different versions of space invaders around and it's entirely 
possible that the first one I played wasn't the original.

All the best,

Dark.

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[Audyssey] Space Invader Movements -was- Re: game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Cara Quinn
HI Dar,

Actually in Space Invaders, the invaders moved quite a lot from side to side. 
When there are fewer invaders and they have more room to move, they alternate 
traveling left and right as they come down the screen.

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On May 22, 2014, at 1:55 AM, dark  wrote:

Obviously this worked for space invaders sinse most invaders don't move 
horizontally much

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Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Bryan Peterson

Atari Flashback?



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: Cara Quinn

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:39 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Am curious myself! :)

I have been considering getting an Atari Flashback 4 and possibly a 2 and 
have a 60 inch 3D plasma screen so am wondering how games like Tempest etc 
would come off.


Tempest was originally done in color vector graphics so looked absolutely 
amazingly cool in the arcade. I'm sure the legacy version on the Flashback 
is different though.


It would be an excellent game for 3D. The TV itself is active 3D but also 
has a mode where it will take 2D content and create a pseudo 3D appearance 
so am just wondering if it might render some games nicely?


I agree! Space Invaders, or any game for that matter, on a 78 inch screen 
would be quite something to see!


Actually this brings up another point I'm curious about. My screen is a wide 
screen (as are pretty much all TVs now) and the older Atari games I'm sure 
were for full screen viewing so I wonder how they would render in a wide 
screen format?…


It would be pretty funny-looking if all the invaders were in a little clump 
in the center of the screen! lol!


Any ideas Thomas or others?…

Thanks,

Cara :)
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On May 22, 2014, at 1:23 AM, dark  wrote:

Hi Tom.

Wow! I bet original space invaders on a 78 inch projector was cool. I 
currently have my snes, Pc and gamecube plugged into a 42 inch flatscreen, 
which is pretty awsome after years of playing on standard sized tv screens, 
but I'm still jealous! :D.


Back when we had the atari 2600 we were on a 15 inch tv, so no, I don't 
imagine the invaders were very clear.


I also however do wonder if there was a different version of space invaders. 
The one we had on the Atari 2600 had the invaders in rows and columns, but 
if I remember rightly the invaders were yellow, and the shields between you 
and them were orange while your gun was green. it also had a two player 
option with one green gun and one purple gun.


I have played a version with red invaders and blue shields on one of those 
multi game consoles that have hundreds of games on one machine and you just 
plug into the tv.


I suppose though just like Packman and several other games at the time, 
there were various different versions of space invaders around and it's 
entirely possible that the first one I played wasn't the original.


All the best,

Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Cara Quinn
Am curious myself! :)

I have been considering getting an Atari Flashback 4 and possibly a 2 and have 
a 60 inch 3D plasma screen so am wondering how games like Tempest etc would 
come off.

Tempest was originally done in color vector graphics so looked absolutely 
amazingly cool in the arcade. I'm sure the legacy version on the Flashback is 
different though.

It would be an excellent game for 3D. The TV itself is active 3D but also has a 
mode where it will take 2D content and create a pseudo 3D appearance so am just 
wondering if it might render some games nicely?

I agree! Space Invaders, or any game for that matter, on a 78 inch screen would 
be quite something to see!

Actually this brings up another point I'm curious about. My screen is a wide 
screen (as are pretty much all TVs now) and the older Atari games I'm sure were 
for full screen viewing so I wonder how they would render in a wide screen 
format?…

It would be pretty funny-looking if all the invaders were in a little clump in 
the center of the screen! lol!

Any ideas Thomas or others?…

Thanks,

Cara :)
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On May 22, 2014, at 1:23 AM, dark  wrote:

Hi Tom.

Wow! I bet original space invaders on a 78 inch projector was cool. I currently 
have my snes, Pc and gamecube plugged into a 42 inch flatscreen, which is 
pretty awsome after years of playing on standard sized tv screens, but I'm 
still jealous! :D.

Back when we had the atari 2600 we were on a 15 inch tv, so no, I don't imagine 
the invaders were very clear.

I also however do wonder if there was a different version of space invaders. 
The one we had on the Atari 2600 had the invaders in rows and columns, but if I 
remember rightly the invaders were yellow, and the shields between you and them 
were orange while your gun was green. it also had a two player option with one 
green gun and one purple gun.

I have played a version with red invaders and blue shields on one of those 
multi game consoles that have hundreds of games on one machine and you just 
plug into the tv.

I suppose though just like Packman and several other games at the time, there 
were various different versions of space invaders around and it's entirely 
possible that the first one I played wasn't the original.

All the best,

Dark. 

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[Audyssey] tom's black jack game

2014-05-22 Thread Nicol
Hi all
I need some help please.
I would very much like to play tom's black jack game on my nokia c5 phone.
I am often away from home and I would very much  like to have a game I can
play while not at home .
Any help is much appreciated.
I did a google search.
IN google  I typed:
Python interpreter for nokia c5
Google gave  me  a lot of very confusing web sites.
After lots of struggling on websites, I got an interpreter for nokia phones
but I am unable  to install it.
The filename is s61.sis
Inside file manager on my phone, I press  the select button on this  file
but I get an error message that says certificate expired.
Any help is much appreciated.


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Re: [Audyssey] PacMan Talks voice

2014-05-22 Thread Bryan Peterson

That's AT&T Mike.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: Lori Duncan

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] PacMan Talks voice

Lol, my favourite one of Blinkey's is, "Blinkey wants you to leave!"  Not
sure why, but that one makes me laugh, along with the sounds of packman
walking and eating dots.

Also Phil, what voice is the actual game voice for packman, like the one
which speaks the function keys and so on, it sounds similar to the eva in
Shades of doom.  From Lori.

-Original Message- 
From: Sky Mundell

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 7:28 AM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: [Audyssey] PacMan Talks voice

Hi Phil, this is Sky here. I have a question about pacman talks, in
particular one of the ghost, blinky. In going through the phrases of blinky,
I noticing a fraze where he says out, of, in a burp voice. How did you make
the voice belch the words, out of? Or whatever it sounds like? The burping
affect? and what voice of the at&t natural voice did you use for blinky?


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Re: [Audyssey] PacMan Talks voice

2014-05-22 Thread Bryan Peterson

It's AT&T Mike. Then Clyde is AT&T Charles, a British voice.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: Sky Mundell

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:28 AM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: [Audyssey] PacMan Talks voice

Hi Phil, this is Sky here. I have a question about pacman talks, in 
particular one of the ghost, blinky. In going through the phrases of blinky, 
I noticing a fraze where he says out, of, in a burp voice. How did you make 
the voice belch the words, out of? Or whatever it sounds like? The burping 
affect? and what voice of the at&t natural voice did you use for blinky?



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Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread Bryan Peterson

I never even thought of the Gorbianthing. LOL.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: Thomas Ward

Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

Hi Dark,

I certainly see where you are coming from, but I see two problems with
your conclusions. One, is that not every programmer has the same
skills, and sometimes one programmer might think of a novel solution
to solve a problem that another programmer would not think of to
resolve a particular problem in converting some mainstream mechanics
to audio. Two, just because a solution has not been introduced does
not mean one does not exist. Merely that not all the possibilities
have been tried yet.

Let's take your example of Duck Hunt here. I'll be the first to admit
Liam did not do the best job of converting that game to audio, because
its overly simplistic compared to the NES version. The ducks simply
fly across the screen and when they are in the center you hit space to
shoot them. Pretty dull and not at all like the original game.

However, as I sit here I can think of away to restore the original
challenge of the game, and write Duck Hunt to be on par with the video
game version. The way to do it would be to add an audio targeting
system similar to what Justin did in the Gorbian levels of Troopanum
2. You would be able to move the targeting beep left and right until
the duck is centered and then move it up and down to center it on the
duck. When the pitch of the beep is at its maximum shoot. If tied with
a game controller, mouse, or something we would effectively be
recreating Duck Hunt almost exactly like the classic NES version, and
have it be fully accessible. Not sure Liam had thought of trying
anything like that when creating his version of Duck Hunt, but that is
a case of where I think the experience could be drastically improved
to be fairly close to the original in challenge and still use the same
basic mechanics.


I'll freely admit when I was working on Montezuma's Revenge I wasn't
trying too hard to find solutions for various issues. I was primarily
in a big hurry so if there was not something I knew how to do or have
an idea how to get around some problem with converting some aspect of
the game to audio I just skipped it intending to come back to the
problem at a later time. Therefore certain things such as the bouncing
skulls were left undone.

That said, now that six years have passed since working on the game I
have a few ideas in which I could have implemented the bouncing
skulls. One way would be by introducing a bounce or jump sound for
when the skulls bounced into the air, and a land sound for when they
hit the ground. The Airbot battle in Super Liam is an example of one
way the bouncing skulls could be made accessible, but I was in too
much of a hurry at the time to really look for that kind of solution
at the time.

My point being just because various audio games lack a certain feature
found in a video game counterpart doesn't mean it is impossible or too
difficult to convert a specific mechanic from a video game to audio.
It could be a lack of skill, shear laziness on the developers part, or
simply a case of not thinking the problem completely through. I'm
personally not ready to put the smackdown on converting video game
mechanics to audio and give it the 1, 2, 3 until all alternatives have
been explored.

Cheers!




On 5/21/14, dark  wrote:

Hi Tom.

I do see your point in trying to give people who have not played the
original the same experience, however my problem is what usually happens
when a game is translated to audio from an original graphical conceptmy
problem is that when a developer simply cannot replicate a mechanic in 
audio


that mechanic gets missed.

Take Liam's duckhunt for example. The original Duckhunt was challenging
because the ducks could move at any angle across the screen, and the 
player


had to either target them with the nes connected gun, or (even more
difficult), line up a circle with his/her pad on the screen. The lining up
targeting process was complex sinse the player could never guarantee 
his/her


target was in the right place and it required the player to track the
movement of his/her target, and the movement of the oncoming duck.

Sinse however  there wasn't a way to replicate the vertical movement or
random target lining up of the ducks, we end up with a sterrio targeting
game where the player hears the sound of the duck and must hit space when
it's in the center, thus all the need to coordinate the original target
position vs the position of the oncoming duck is missing from the game and
once again we have a reaction test bo

Re: [Audyssey] inquisitor game help.

2014-05-22 Thread william lomas
did he get back to you in the end re this query?
has anyone played inquisitor 2 yet in italian? surely someone has :)

On 22 May 2014, at 08:35, Ian McNamara  wrote:

> Hi all i’ve beeten the inquisitor game once however i’ve not played it for a 
> long time and i’m stuck. i’ve examined the corpse but I can’t get any 
> further. it is near the end of the game but after examining the corpse it 
> seems to get stuck. i’m playing the mac version from the app store.
> 
> Ian McNamara
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Re: [Audyssey] holes in shields

2014-05-22 Thread dark
Rythm is an interesting idea for an indicator. I have seen rapidity of sound 
used in games before for information, but not directly working on rythm.


My only concern would be whether it would be distinguishable, particularly 
say picking out two distinct sounds in rythm together against a large number 
of other sounds, sinse obviously this is the advantage of pitch.


Echoe is something I've seen some games use but not widely. Unseen (once 
called aura), which thus far only exists in a small beta did use echoe 
extensively to indicate character position, and shades of doom used it for 
directional space feedback, but it is an interesting thought to have it as 
an indicator in a vehicle based game.


Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] game menus

2014-05-22 Thread dark

Hi jeremy.

Firstly, this is where your context sensative menue help can really be 
handy, sinse then once on the firing menue a player could freely get the 
list of hot keys, and after playing a few times they'd be quite familiar 
with them.


Look at shades of doom as an example of a game which uses virtually every 
key on the keyboard, but has become very popular precisely because! players 
always have quick access to finding out what keys they need for what purpose 
through the f1 menue.


Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread dark

Hi Tom.

I would never suggest giving up on an attempt to replicate mainstream 
mechanics in audio games entirely, certainly i've occasionally been quite 
surprised at the ingenuity of developers.


My problem however, is that as you said yourself, developing games is not 
easy and developers aren't always in a position to know how to implement 
something in a game. The problem is this has too often resulted in partial 
convertions, eg, space invaders games with no shields and no shooting 
invaders, or supposed 2D side scrollers with no 2nd dimention or 
recognizable enemy attacks.


My suggestion is not to completely abandon efforts to try and convert 
mainstream games to audio, only that when a developer comes up against a 
problem which cannot be solved, instead of simply missing something out and 
reducing the game to a reaction test, considder substituting an audio 
mechanic to keep the game at the same level of challenge and complexity as 
the original rather than reducing it to another boppit clone.


For example, yes your skull suggestion would be quite workable, however if 
you can't think of a similar thing to dictate the jewel position and require 
the player to vary his/her jump hight to grab them, instead of saying "oh 
dear, well we'll just stick the jewels on the floor and let them be easy to 
pickup" find a similar audio challenge to substitute into the game, eg, the 
falling jewels suggestion.


No, this might not result in a %100 accurate remake, but better a %50 
accurate audio remake with another %50 of similar style challenge but in 
audio, than just! a %50 remake with nothing added and those mechanics simply 
missing.


Btw, with the duckhunt idea, the only problem I see in replicating the 
gorbian style levels is that the gorbians were predicated on the idea that 
once a ship was targeted horizontally, the target wouldn't move from that 
horizontal position and you would then just have to target it vertically, 
which is why you always hit the left and right arrows before the up or down 
ones. Obviously this worked for space invaders sinse most invaders don't 
move horizontally much.


To be accurate, the ducks would need to move in diagonals and the player 
would need to move the target in both horizontal and vertical incriments at 
the same time. you'd therefore probably need two distinct target sounds, one 
for vertical target one for horizontal target, and require the player to get 
both solutions correct before the shot would hit.


That! could be a most challenging game, sinse the player would need to line 
up their target quite carefully and continually try to keep a beed on the 
moving duck much as in the graphical version, making for a game which would 
be much more interesting to play.


Beware the grue!

Dark. 



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Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread dark

Hi Tom.

Yep, i definitely remember the enemy blasting holes in the shields, indeed a 
favourite tactic of mine was blasting through the center of the shield 
myself so I was protected on both sides and using it to take out lots of 
invaders while I got the cover.


You mentioning shield power did give me a thought however. Suppose instead 
of giving the player say 5 shields at the start of each game, the shield 
started with a percentage power meter. When at %100, the shield was 
absolutely certain to stop an enemy shot. However, as it took damage, the 
percentage of the shield was the percentage it would stop the enemy's 
bullet.


So when at %50, if you deployed the shield, there was also a %50 chance 
you'd get hit anyway.


This would be easy to show in audio, (simply a status key to report 
percentage), and would replicate the fact that enemies blasted through the 
shields and would add complexity to the game. For example, do you use a 
shield at %30, knowing there is a good chance it won't work.  This could be 
potentially even more interesting than a limited number of shields, sinse 
there would be an element of risk and chance involved along with the 
conservation required, and a little calculated risk can always make for an 
addictive game.


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Re: [Audyssey] game taste was: Re: regarding temporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread dark

Hi Tom.

Wow! I bet original space invaders on a 78 inch projector was cool. I 
currently have my snes, Pc and gamecube plugged into a 42 inch flatscreen, 
which is pretty awsome after years of playing on standard sized tv screens, 
but I'm still jealous! :D.


Back when we had the atari 2600 we were on a 15 inch tv, so no, I don't 
imagine the invaders were very clear.


I also however do wonder if there was a different version of space invaders. 
The one we had on the Atari 2600 had the invaders in rows and columns, but 
if I remember rightly the invaders were yellow, and the shields between you 
and them were orange while your gun was green. it also had a two player 
option with one green gun and one purple gun.


I have played a version with red invaders and blue shields on one of those 
multi game consoles that have hundreds of games on one machine and you just 
plug into the tv.


I suppose though just like Packman and several other games at the time, 
there were various different versions of space invaders around and it's 
entirely possible that the first one I played wasn't the original.


All the best,

Dark. 



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Re: [Audyssey] social event versus mechanics

2014-05-22 Thread dark

Hi charlse.

I agree Ten pin alley is a social game, however interestingly enough that 
was the very reason I didn't buy it, sinse I don't really get chance to play 
audio games with people at the same computer very often (when my friends 
turn up we do tabeltop rp), and thus for me the main fun of games is as a 
single player and I just felt the single player experience of Ten Pin Alley 
wasn't really enough to warrent me buying the game.


Another example is Mississippi. again, it looked a nice game to play with 
other people at the same machine, but with no computer opponents the single 
player game just didn't seem much fun.


I hadn't actually thought of this before, but it is entirely possible that 
for some people, maybe even quite a few people, games that are purely! 
social and have less to offer a solo player (including games with computer 
opponentns), might actually be something of a turn off.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
From: "Charles Rivard" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] social event versus mechanics


I would consider Tenpin Alley a game that could be a social event.  You try 
beating each other's score.  Each person steps up to the keyboard to bowl 
his or her frame, and the high score plus handicap is the winner.  It 
reminds me of the bowling machines that used to be in bars and arcades in 
the sixties, when I was a kid.


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Re: [Audyssey] menus was: Re: game taste was: Re: regardingtemporal disturbance

2014-05-22 Thread dark

Hi Tom.

I did mean to actually address the idea of hotkeys, I jut forgot to write it 
into the message being as I was woffling on about adventure games too much 
:D.


Vg's first game, interceptor is a turn based tactical space combat game. it 
is very different from trek 2000, sinse you have one spaceship with several 
different weapons and onboard systems which you manage in detail and fight 
turn based battles against a number of different types of alien ships.


The closest thing I've seen to it is the combat in the Ios game Star traders 
elite, but interceptor looked very different especially in the number of 
options you have at any given time.


I think menus will work fine for the game, and actually I'm looking forward 
to trying it, I'm just not sure as I said about menus for everything.


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Re: [Audyssey] PacMan Talks voice

2014-05-22 Thread Lori Duncan
Lol, my favourite one of Blinkey's is, "Blinkey wants you to leave!"  Not 
sure why, but that one makes me laugh, along with the sounds of packman 
walking and eating dots.


Also Phil, what voice is the actual game voice for packman, like the one 
which speaks the function keys and so on, it sounds similar to the eva in 
Shades of doom.  From Lori.


-Original Message- 
From: Sky Mundell

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 7:28 AM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: [Audyssey] PacMan Talks voice

Hi Phil, this is Sky here. I have a question about pacman talks, in 
particular one of the ghost, blinky. In going through the phrases of blinky, 
I noticing a fraze where he says out, of, in a burp voice. How did you make 
the voice belch the words, out of? Or whatever it sounds like? The burping 
affect? and what voice of the at&t natural voice did you use for blinky?



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Re: [Audyssey] entertainment versus social event

2014-05-22 Thread dark

Hi Jeremy.

I absolutely agree the exploration elements of entombed did get neglected. i 
was in the early alpha and beta testing for the game, and I can say a lot of 
things with the environment were planned, but didn't materialize. These 
included traps, resting, environments to search for items, and even 
environments that affected the battles in some way. Unfortunately sinse 
entombed didn't really work to an over all plan things got added somewhat 
haphazardly to the design, which is one reason the entombed dungeon creator, 
which would've also allowed such features never materialized. The developer, 
Jason Alan has stated that he'd like to fix such things in Entombed Ii in 
the future, though whether that will happen given Jason has several kids and 
two jobs last we heard I'm not sure.


Either way, while I fully agree the environment wasn't as developed as it 
was originally intended to be, Entombed's Combat mechanics and the random 
choice of different options are something I still think is a lovely idea for 
game design, sinse a you said the player is always needing to work out 
different tactics and combinations for different situations, which is what 
I'd recommend taking from entombed if considdering creating other games.


There are far too many rpgs  where the actual process of combat is extremely 
dull, just hitting one attack button. Even when (as many do), there is a 
complex equipping system of balancing items and skills, this to me isn't 
particularly interesting if all those items and skills do is give you no 
chance to interact with your enemy.


After all in reality, while it will! make a difference whether you went in 
to battle in full plate armor with a two handed greatsword, or in leather 
armor with a rapier, your skills at using either and responding to the 
attacks, parries and movement of your enemy will make a major difference no 
matter what you wear.


All the best,

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[Audyssey] inquisitor game help.

2014-05-22 Thread Ian McNamara
Hi all i’ve beeten the inquisitor game once however i’ve not played it for a 
long time and i’m stuck. i’ve examined the corpse but I can’t get any further. 
it is near the end of the game but after examining the corpse it seems to get 
stuck. i’m playing the mac version from the app store.

Ian McNamara
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