Re: [Audyssey] the wastes

[dark]

Hi Brandon.

there should be no need to run through the command prompt, though  the 
wastes does use a console window and looks like a dos game, it is in fact 
fully compatible with modern windows, just click on thewastes.exe in windows 
explorer as you  would with any program.


The ability to save option settings so you don't need to select no ascii and 
set the background volume each game will be added and is on the todo list, 
but hasn't been included yet.


In addition to selecting "no ascii" which you can do with number 3 for 
options and then choice 5, and monkeying with the sound volume if you wish, 
you could also try option 8, full screen. I found this improved the 
columnization and rapping of text on my end quite a lot, though of course 
it'll probably vary on different machines and Windows versions.


All the best,

Dark.
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From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the wastes



Hello,
this is only on the prompt and the prompt pops up. So just click on the 
waists.exe and it will pop up. First, before anything press

3, 5
then press 3, 4, 5
That will turn down the music I believe.
To read the prompt with NVDA use object review. I use a laptop, so it is 
capslock up and down arrow.

thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs 
On 7/27/2015 8:36 PM, Dakotah Rickard wrote:

Hi.
First of all, should I be running this from the command prompt?
Second, I play it with NVDA, and the window doesn't let me look inside to 
scroll about and review text. Any advice?


Signed:
Dakotah Rickard


On Jul 18, 2015, at 19:18, john  wrote:

Dark:
I didn't see this anywhere, but you seem to know more about development 
than

me.
Do you know if mining's going to be fixed (right now it infinitely 
scrolls)?
The only way I could find to make it stop was to kill the program with 
ctrl

c, which really isn't what I want to do.


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Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 19:15
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the wastes

Hi Jeremy.

The town scrolling thing is a known problem and will e fixed, for now 
any
method of emulating mouse wheel movement should do, in supernova I just 
hit

w a few times,heck you might even be able to just use your mouse wheel
anyway.

The towns will be fixed, but right now Huw the developer is working on 
the
inventory and lots of fun extra objects like weapons and armour carried 
by
your enemies, trading resources, loot, food, plants books to read and 
lots

of other good stuff.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "Jeremy Brown" 
To: "gamers" 
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the wastes



I have to second Dark's comments about the game.  I had no problems
downloading the zip file, and it is a fun game.  I wish the town
information didn't scroll so much, in larger towns, I was reduced to
guessing about where shops were as most of the buildings I could see
were shacks:)

Still, it's a lot of fun, and I was glad to see a game like this still
being developed and supported.

Take care,

Jeremy


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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Shaun,

We have a strict no piracy rule here on Audyssey so yes the mods do
mind. While I am upset with how Q9 was handled that doesn't mean I'll
relax the rule about sharing the keys on this or any other list I run
because it is piracy. Just because I think Mr. Hartgen is being a bit
of a jerk doesn't mean I would publicly disrespect his right to sell
the game by allowing people to share keys etc on list. Of course, what
people do off the list is none of my business and while I can't
legally encourage people to crack the game I am in no position to
discourage it either.

P.S.

Please, stop referring people to my comments on Audiogames.net. Much
of what I said there was heat of the moment and while not anything I
can't live with I don't appreciate being referred to as though those
comments are representative of how I feel now.



On 7/28/15, Shaun Everiss  wrote:
> Well strictly speaking probably not but read tward on the ag forum.
> I don't think the mods will mind if people start sharing keys though I'd
> probably hasard a guess you would have to do it off list.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Charles,

A comment about your comment. There is a lot more to the legalization
of illegal drugs than just everyone is doing it. Some studies have
shown that countries like Portugal which have relaxed their drug
policies have a less of a drug problem per person than countries that
have really strict drug policies. I know that sounds contrary, but
relaxing drug policies, legalizing drugs, has had the opposite effect
than that which people usually think.

Cheers!


On 7/29/15, Charles Rivard  wrote:
> One of the problems with today's society is that because everyone does it,
> it's OK.  It's no big deal because, what the heck, everyone does it.  Make
> illegal drugs legal because everyone's using them anyway, so why bother?
> Just because theft is common practice, it should not be OK to steal.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Shaun,

I'm all for the idea of a Q9 clone. A developer, whoever that would
be, could create something like Q9 and either sell it or give it away
legally. It isn't like such things haven't been done before, and the
game is generic enough that something similar can be created without
much of a dispute over copyrights.



On 7/29/15, Shaun Everiss  wrote:
> I think everyone has shown themselves.
> And I don't care to pirate either even though I was one a long time ago.
> Fact is all other avenues were sorted and no one is shifting.
> I won't publish my info on here or on the net or on the forum or put it
> out for everyone to use but if someone requests this off list as a gamer
> I will send it in protest because of things being unfair.
>
> And look at what tom ward posted in the ag.net thread, unless mr ward
> has changed his stance on the issue.
> I do understand both sides, however with no warning well.
> it doesn't matter in the long run anyway.
> We will just have to create something else based on this or whatever its
> not like clones havn't been done before we can do it again.

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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Brandon,

Essentially Leasey is a series of Jaws scripts. I suspect they want to
sell games and other software with it to entice people into buying
Leasey. It is possible they discovered their scripts are not doing as
well as they might financially and are hoping to maximize sales by
adding more additional content.



On 7/23/15, Brandon Keith Biggs  wrote:
> Hello,
> It seems as if Licy is just a ton of Jaws scripts combined in a massive
> package.
> I've never used it, but from looking at the description, and reviews,
> that is what it sounds like.
> Why would they want an audio game sold with it? XD
> thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs 

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Josh K]

his football game is my favorite. I've always associated jim with 
excellent and fun computer games. I like how he put humor in most of his 
games too.


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On 8/8/2015 1:02 AM, ishan dhami wrote:

O my god !
it is really shocking news.
I will appriciate Mr ward's idea of hosting his stuff in Usagames site.
the question is that who will make audyssey babble report
will phil john or josh.
I love his baseball
ya of course audiogames should publish a news of his demise.
Thanks
Ishan

On 8/8/15, Thomas Ward  wrote:

Hi Shaun,

Giving Jim's games a standard Windows installer would be no problem.
That would be a fairly simple solution to the Program Files folder
issue. It was something I wanted to do for a long time, but Jim was
apposed to the idea when he was a live. However, in light of the fact
someone else might be taking over the distribution and support for his
games now we might be able to introduce a different method of
installation..

Cheers!




On 8/7/15, Shaun Everiss  wrote:

Well I suppose someone will have to host his stuff, its a good question
though.
I have most of his stuff, I plan to download it and archive it and back
it up somewhere if that ever happens but it does need to be mirrored
somewhere at least the stuff that can be mirrored.
with win 10 at least unless uac is off, program files folder will be not
usable so maybe if someone can get all the files, extract them, and then
have an installer put them in the local user folder or maybe as a
portable package or something I don't know but yeah we need to sort that
out.

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away:

[Josh K]

I grew up with his games with jim's games as a kid. they were some of 
the first i ever played in ms-dos.


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On 8/8/2015 12:56 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Shaun,

Certainly I can host the files. They aren't very big and I have plenty
of room on the USA Games server. Just give me a couple of days to put
them up. I'm sort of tied up with other things this weekend so was
unprepared to do any site updates on such short notice.



On 8/7/15, Shaun Everiss  wrote:

I am not sure but I do think someone will need to take his stuff from
his site, I'll do that later on in the next few days, and then I will
need a place to put it.
Tom could you host it in usa games, I can probably archive the entire
thing and put it somewhere.
but you guys can sort out something for it, an atribution archive or
something I don't know jim as much as a lot of you but I remember him in
the old dos game days and later on, its a pitty he will no longer be
updating things.


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[Audyssey] 4 of Jim Kitchen games with him playing the games

[Josh K]

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Here are four games I have of Jim playing his Mark1 race car game.  The 
third mp3 file you can hear Jim talk as he is driving.  He used a 
control with a steering wheel and gas petal.  The last mp3 is how he 
shot down a plane in the Puppy1 game.  Jim talks during that as well.  I 
was having trouble with the games, so he recorded how he played them.

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Josh K]

oh you can turn uac off. if you are running pro its in security policy.

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On 8/7/2015 9:06 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well I suppose someone will have to host his stuff, its a good 
question though.
I have most of his stuff, I plan to download it and archive it and 
back it up somewhere if that ever happens but it does need to be 
mirrored somewhere at least the stuff that can be mirrored.
with win 10 at least unless uac is off, program files folder will be 
not usable so maybe if someone can get all the files, extract them, 
and then have an installer put them in the local user folder or maybe 
as a portable package or something I don't know but yeah we need to 
sort that out.




On 8/08/2015 8:17 a.m., Danielle Ledet wrote:
What happens to his website? I do hope he would have wanted it to 
stay up.


On 8/7/15, Danielle Ledet  wrote:

Wow this is NOT what I wished to see in my inbox and right up at the
top. I didn't know Jim was sick. thanks for the info.

On 8/7/15, Phil Vlasak  wrote:

Hi Josh,
Unfortunately Jim Kitchen wrote most of his Windows games in Visual 
Basic

6,

and I am only familiar with GW basic for DOS and the GMA game engine
formats.
I think Jeremy Kaldobsky, Aprone uses VB 6.
  Phil
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From: "Josh K" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary


hey phil are you gunna take over the development of sports games 
or any

unfinnished games jim may have had in mind?

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On 8/7/2015 3:27 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote:
James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 
at Tri

Point Medical Center in Concord.
He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. 
Kitchen Sr.

and Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally
known.

He worked full time on his own website where he designed and 
programmed

computer
games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary 
person

who used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing similar
hardships. He
could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of 
humor,
random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice 
Chairman for

the Geauga
Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many 
years.
Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny 
Wagstaff;
his sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and numerous 
nieces,

nephews
and cousins.
He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine 
Ewing and

his beloved companion Marcie Brown.
A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later
date.
In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the 
Cleveland

Sight Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral 
Home

&

Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.
Offer condolences at
www.brunners.com


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Hello,
I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/news-herald/obituary.aspx?n=james-h-kitchen&pid=175455371&fhid=5093 




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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Thomas Ward]

Hello Ishan,

Unfortunately, nobody else will be able to do the thread and babble
reports. You see, Jim Kitchen wrote his own custom e-mail program and
as I understand it the software to create the thread and babble
reports was a part of that custom e-mail program. So unless somebody
backs up the program from Jim's personal computer I'm afraid to say we
will no longer have the thread and babble reports any more. Not unless
someone wants to write a new program to do it.

Cheers!


On 8/8/15, ishan dhami  wrote:
> O my god !
> it is really shocking news.
> I will appriciate Mr ward's idea of hosting his stuff in Usagames site.
> the question is that who will make audyssey babble report
> will phil john or josh.
> I love his baseball
> ya of course audiogames should publish a news of his demise.
> Thanks
> Ishan
>

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen

[Josh K]

yes aprone if you could take over his sports games like football and 
baseball that would be great! but if you take them over put into the 
game a tribute to jim's legacy somehow.


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On 8/7/2015 9:01 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
aprone if you can handle his shoes well maybe you can look for us, I 
mean you made swamp, I don't want his site to die but right now I 
don't have the time to get it, maybe over the next 2 days I will put 
some time asside to get his site down.
I will need someone to host it though I can't host on dropbox for all 
time really, I guess I could buy dropbox and pay a subscription per 
year for 1tb but to be honest someone needs to host it perminantly or 
several people, I don't think the archive is that big, but hmmm.




On 8/08/2015 7:33 a.m., Jeremy Kaldobsky wrote:
I live about 3 hours away from there.  I have no idea if I can be of 
any help, but if you're looking for people who are nearby, you can 
keep me in mind.

- Aprone

   From: Josh K 
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  Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 2:46 PM
  Subject: [Audyssey] jim kitchen

Cindy would like someone in the local area to look at the stuff. He
lived in Chardon Ohio.



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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Josh K]

yes please someone back up all his games dos windows everything if you 
have the space.


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On 8/7/2015 8:55 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well if someone hasn't done this allready later on today I will take 
down all the files from his site for backup, unless that is someone 
beats me to it.
We do need a place for his files to go, I don't want all of his site 
to go and us have no access to them.




On 8/08/2015 8:03 a.m., Phil Vlasak wrote:

Hi Josh,
Unfortunately Jim Kitchen wrote most of his Windows games in Visual
Basic 6, and I am only familiar with GW basic for DOS and the GMA game
engine formats.
I think Jeremy Kaldobsky, Aprone uses VB 6.
Phil
- Original Message - From: "Josh K" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary



hey phil are you gunna take over the development of sports games or
any unfinnished games jim may have had in mind?

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On 8/7/2015 3:27 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote:

James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at
Tri Point Medical Center in Concord.
He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen
Sr. and Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally
known. He worked full time on his own website where he designed and
programmed computer
games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary
person who used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing
similar hardships. He
could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of
humor, random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice
Chairman for the Geauga
Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny
Wagstaff; his sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and
numerous nieces, nephews
and cousins.
He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing
and his beloved companion Marcie Brown.
A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later 
date.

In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the
Cleveland Sight Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral
Home & Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.
Offer condolences at
www.brunners.com


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Hello,
I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/news-herald/obituary.aspx?n=james-h-kitchen&pid=175455371&fhid=5093 






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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[Josh K]

yes i spoke to him a number of years ago on the phone about what i don't 
remember though .



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On 8/7/2015 4:47 PM, Bryan Peterson wrote:
Sympathies would have been a more appropriate word I think. And at 
only 58 to boot, not very oldat all. He was probably the first audio 
game developer I ever spoke to directly for any length of time.




Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
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Because I have done nothing to apologize for having done.

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Why would you say your appologies don't go out to them when this is a 
sad time in their lives?


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On 8/7/2015 3:13 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
My apologies don't go out to them, but my prayers and support do.  
He was a huge contributor to the blind computer gaming community, 
and his hobby and generosity game us, and will continue to give us, 
many hours of fun.


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yes my appologies go out to Jim's family friends and everyone who 
enjoyed and grew up with his games. We will miss you Jim!


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On 8/7/2015 2:45 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. 
My thoughts go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games 
when I played them in the past. May he rest in peace.

On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:

hi pass this on.
just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday 
August 2nd 2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen 
Junior so you can look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave 
contact info there. Cindy is trying to find Joshua Gryffith who 
maintains his website. Cindy's email is
psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and 
stuff. I would like to get the source for all his games.

thanks

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[ishan dhami]

O my god !
it is really shocking news.
I will appriciate Mr ward's idea of hosting his stuff in Usagames site.
the question is that who will make audyssey babble report
will phil john or josh.
I love his baseball
ya of course audiogames should publish a news of his demise.
Thanks
Ishan

On 8/8/15, Thomas Ward  wrote:
> Hi Shaun,
>
> Giving Jim's games a standard Windows installer would be no problem.
> That would be a fairly simple solution to the Program Files folder
> issue. It was something I wanted to do for a long time, but Jim was
> apposed to the idea when he was a live. However, in light of the fact
> someone else might be taking over the distribution and support for his
> games now we might be able to introduce a different method of
> installation..
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
>
> On 8/7/15, Shaun Everiss  wrote:
>> Well I suppose someone will have to host his stuff, its a good question
>> though.
>> I have most of his stuff, I plan to download it and archive it and back
>> it up somewhere if that ever happens but it does need to be mirrored
>> somewhere at least the stuff that can be mirrored.
>> with win 10 at least unless uac is off, program files folder will be not
>> usable so maybe if someone can get all the files, extract them, and then
>> have an installer put them in the local user folder or maybe as a
>> portable package or something I don't know but yeah we need to sort that
>> out.
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Re: [Audyssey] Jim kitchen obituary

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Lisa,

Totally agree with you. I'm sure his games and his website will be
taken care of one way or another. I understand the concern and
uncertainty at this time, but people need to have a heart and think
about his family and their loss rather than the games and site. We can
sort that out later.



On 8/8/15, Lisa Hayes  wrote:
> I hope that his games are stored somewhere, but them an has just dies so
> let's grieve for him and show some respect instead of thinking about a
> bloody website is that all he was to us?
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen's games

[Josh K]

thanks but i noticed that i now get a notification saying please restart 
the compute to turn the security policy back on. so is this security 
policy change only temporary during my current windows session?


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On 8/6/2015 4:25 PM, Gavin Grundlingh wrote:

Hi Josh,

In Windows 8 and above, setting the User Account Control notification 
level slider to 0 does not automatically disable UAC entirely as it 
did in Windows 7. To fix this, you need to go into Local Security Policy.


1. Go to the Run dialog and type secpol.msc.

2. Navigate to Security Settings > Local Policies, > Security Opeions.

3. Look for the option that says, "User Account Control: Run all 
administrators in Admin Approval Mode". This setting will either be 
set to Not Configured or Enabled.


4. Press Enter on this setting, select the Disabled radio button, and 
hit OK..


Hipe this helps.

Regards,

Gavin

On 8/6/2015 20:43, Josh K wrote:

hi
in windows10 when I try installing a game into c:\program files 
x86\kitchensinc\ it says cannot write output files. this is because 
in windos10 and 8 and above it won't let even administrators write to 
those folders. well if i try copying files into those folders it lets 
me but only after i click the continue with automatic administrator 
rights button. so how do i make it like windows7 where i can freely 
install such games? also in regards to espeak this windows10 
restricting me from modding such files will also prevent me from 
modifying espeak variant files. is there a way to fix this?





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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away:

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Shaun,

Certainly I can host the files. They aren't very big and I have plenty
of room on the USA Games server. Just give me a couple of days to put
them up. I'm sort of tied up with other things this weekend so was
unprepared to do any site updates on such short notice.



On 8/7/15, Shaun Everiss  wrote:
> I am not sure but I do think someone will need to take his stuff from
> his site, I'll do that later on in the next few days, and then I will
> need a place to put it.
> Tom could you host it in usa games, I can probably archive the entire
> thing and put it somewhere.
> but you guys can sort out something for it, an atribution archive or
> something I don't know jim as much as a lot of you but I remember him in
> the old dos game days and later on, its a pitty he will no longer be
> updating things.
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Re: [Audyssey] Jim kitchen obituary

[Lisa Hayes]

I hope that his games are stored somewhere, but them an has just dies so 
let's grieve for him and show some respect instead of thinking about a 
bloody website is that all he was to us?


-Original Message- 
From: Danielle Ledet

Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 6:17 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

What happens to his website? I do hope he would have wanted it to stay up.

On 8/7/15, Danielle Ledet  wrote:

Wow this is NOT what I wished to see in my inbox and right up at the
top. I didn't know Jim was sick. thanks for the info.

On 8/7/15, Phil Vlasak  wrote:

Hi Josh,
Unfortunately Jim Kitchen wrote most of his Windows games in Visual Basic
6,

and I am only familiar with GW basic for DOS and the GMA game engine
formats.
I think Jeremy Kaldobsky, Aprone uses VB 6.
 Phil
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary



hey phil are you gunna take over the development of sports games or any
unfinnished games jim may have had in mind?

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On 8/7/2015 3:27 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote:

James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at Tri
Point Medical Center in Concord.
He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen Sr.
and Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally
known.

He worked full time on his own website where he designed and programmed
computer
games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary person
who used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing similar
hardships. He
could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of humor,
random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice Chairman for
the Geauga
Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny Wagstaff;
his sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and numerous nieces,
nephews
and cousins.
He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing and
his beloved companion Marcie Brown.
A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later
date.
In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the Cleveland
Sight Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral Home
&

Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.
Offer condolences at
www.brunners.com


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Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
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Hello,
I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Shaun,

As previously mentioned in another message USA Games will be happy to
host his games in our free games section for the for seeable future.
Obviously we won't be keeping the site but all the games and other
stuff will be no problem.



On 8/7/15, Shaun Everiss  wrote:
> aprone if you can handle his shoes well maybe you can look for us, I
> mean you made swamp, I don't want his site to die but right now I don't
> have the time to get it, maybe over the next 2 days I will put some time
> asside to get his site down.
> I will need someone to host it though I can't host on dropbox for all
> time really, I guess I could buy dropbox and pay a subscription per year
> for 1tb but to be honest someone needs to host it perminantly or several
> people, I don't think the archive is that big, but hmmm.

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Shaun,

Giving Jim's games a standard Windows installer would be no problem.
That would be a fairly simple solution to the Program Files folder
issue. It was something I wanted to do for a long time, but Jim was
apposed to the idea when he was a live. However, in light of the fact
someone else might be taking over the distribution and support for his
games now we might be able to introduce a different method of
installation..

Cheers!




On 8/7/15, Shaun Everiss  wrote:
> Well I suppose someone will have to host his stuff, its a good question
> though.
> I have most of his stuff, I plan to download it and archive it and back
> it up somewhere if that ever happens but it does need to be mirrored
> somewhere at least the stuff that can be mirrored.
> with win 10 at least unless uac is off, program files folder will be not
> usable so maybe if someone can get all the files, extract them, and then
> have an installer put them in the local user folder or maybe as a
> portable package or something I don't know but yeah we need to sort that
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[Audyssey] disabling uac on windows8 and above

[Josh K]

hey thanks for that. I just assumed that with windows8 and above i just 
went in and slid the slider to 0 hit ok and its all disabled. but since 
i disabled it further in security policy now it works like windows7 
where i can modify espeak settings and stuff. and in the future if i 
want to put in metro apps I can always go back in and turn it back on.


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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Shaun,

I suspect that it is too early to tell what will become of his stuff.
I do know that I'll be willing to host the latest versions of all of
his games on USA Games until some other arrangement can be made for
them. It would be a huge loss to the community if his games were to
become unavailable.



On 8/7/15, Shaun Everiss  wrote:
> wow he will be missed.
> I do wander what will happen to his site and games, I have his windows
> games, but yeah he was one of the major devs, I know he was working on
> loads of games and such.
> I still recommend his stuff and will continue to do so.

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[Lisa Hayes]

I'd also like to pass on my sympathies this is a real shock.

-Original Message- 
From: Appleman

Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 9:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

Hi Chris and Josh,
 I would also like to pass on my condolences. This has certainly come as a 
shock. I also enjoyed Jim’s games when I owned my former Windows machine. 
Puppy1, Simon, Battleship, Triple J Shooter and Spanker were my favourites.


Sent from my iMac



On 8 Aug 2015, at 4:45 am, Christopher Hallsworth 
 wrote:


May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My 
thoughts go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I 
played them in the past. May he rest in peace.

On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:

hi pass this on.
just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd 
2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you can 
look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. Cindy 
is trying to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's 
email is
psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and stuff. I 
would like to get the source for all his games.

thanks

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[Katie Epperson]

They are all in my prayers. I'm here if anyone  needs to talk



> On Aug 7, 2015, at 2:50 PM, brennenki...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Same gos for me to i still have his games and still play them every once in a 
> while
> I wish his family all the best
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2015, at 2:45 PM, christopher hallsworth  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My 
>> thoughts go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I played 
>> them in the past. May he rest in peace.
>>> On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi pass this on.
>>> just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd 
>>> 2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you can 
>>> look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. Cindy is 
>>> trying to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's email is
>>> psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and stuff. I 
>>> would like to get the source for all his games.
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> Josh
>>> 
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Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: Virtual Braille 'n Speak emulator with screen readers and SAPI 5

[Josh K]

get it from this website.

http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/


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On 7/27/2015 4:20 AM, mattias wrote:

But wich ftp?

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Ämne: [Audyssey] Fwd: Virtual Braille 'n Speak emulator with screen readers
and SAPI 5



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 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Virtual Braille 'n Speak emulator with screen readers and
SAPI 5
Date:   Mon, 27 Jul 2015 01:34:40 +0200
From:   'Sukil Etxenike' via Talking DOSbox

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To: talking-dos...@googlegroups.com



Hello,
After working for several days, I finally got the Virtual Bns Emulator
working with accessible_output2 (that is, most Windows screen readers and
SAPI5). I've uploaded it to the ftp with name "vbns-ao2.7z". Its source
code, in case anyone is interested, is available at
http://github.com/sukiletxe/vbns-ao2 . I am also working on minor
adjustments to the eSpeak version (probably nothing of interest to regular
users, I'm mostly correcting mistakes in the script to build the
executable). The source code of this version is available at
http://github.com/sukiletxe/vbns-espeak .

You'll notice the uploaded file is bigger and contains more than just the
executable. This was done to prevent possible problems, and because most
Python projects I've seen package them like this. So, extract it to an empty
folder, to prevent cluttering the talking-dosbox folder.

By the way, for those Spanish users like me who would like to use the Habla
screen reader: I'm affraid I have nothing new at the momment, the problem
discussed a while ago persists. The emulator (in both versions) doesn't
speak most of Habla's messages. Any help is appreciated, either here or via
pull requests.

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Sukil

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Shaun Everiss]

Well I suppose someone will have to host his stuff, its a good question 
though.
I have most of his stuff, I plan to download it and archive it and back 
it up somewhere if that ever happens but it does need to be mirrored 
somewhere at least the stuff that can be mirrored.
with win 10 at least unless uac is off, program files folder will be not 
usable so maybe if someone can get all the files, extract them, and then 
have an installer put them in the local user folder or maybe as a 
portable package or something I don't know but yeah we need to sort that 
out.




On 8/08/2015 8:17 a.m., Danielle Ledet wrote:

What happens to his website? I do hope he would have wanted it to stay up.

On 8/7/15, Danielle Ledet  wrote:

Wow this is NOT what I wished to see in my inbox and right up at the
top. I didn't know Jim was sick. thanks for the info.

On 8/7/15, Phil Vlasak  wrote:

Hi Josh,
Unfortunately Jim Kitchen wrote most of his Windows games in Visual Basic
6,

and I am only familiar with GW basic for DOS and the GMA game engine
formats.
I think Jeremy Kaldobsky, Aprone uses VB 6.
  Phil
- Original Message -
From: "Josh K" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary



hey phil are you gunna take over the development of sports games or any
unfinnished games jim may have had in mind?

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 3:27 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote:

James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at Tri
Point Medical Center in Concord.
He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen Sr.
and Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally
known.

He worked full time on his own website where he designed and programmed
computer
games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary person
who used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing similar
hardships. He
could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of humor,
random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice Chairman for
the Geauga
Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny Wagstaff;
his sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and numerous nieces,
nephews
and cousins.
He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing and
his beloved companion Marcie Brown.
A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later
date.
In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the Cleveland
Sight Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral Home
&

Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.
Offer condolences at
www.brunners.com


- Original Message - From: "Greg Wocher" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away



Hello,
I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/news-herald/obituary.aspx?n=james-h-kitchen&pid=175455371&fhid=5093



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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Shaun Everiss]

well he was sick but got better I didn't know he was sick of late though.
Devs come and go, they dissapear for a bit and come back.
Then you don't hear from em for ages till they release something or go 
to the blue yonder.




On 8/08/2015 8:16 a.m., Danielle Ledet wrote:

Wow this is NOT what I wished to see in my inbox and right up at the
top. I didn't know Jim was sick. thanks for the info.

On 8/7/15, Phil Vlasak  wrote:

Hi Josh,
Unfortunately Jim Kitchen wrote most of his Windows games in Visual Basic 6,

and I am only familiar with GW basic for DOS and the GMA game engine
formats.
I think Jeremy Kaldobsky, Aprone uses VB 6.
  Phil
- Original Message -
From: "Josh K" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary



hey phil are you gunna take over the development of sports games or any
unfinnished games jim may have had in mind?

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 3:27 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote:

James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at Tri
Point Medical Center in Concord.
He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen Sr.
and Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally known.

He worked full time on his own website where he designed and programmed
computer
games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary person
who used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing similar
hardships. He
could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of humor,
random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice Chairman for
the Geauga
Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny Wagstaff;
his sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and numerous nieces,
nephews
and cousins.
He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing and
his beloved companion Marcie Brown.
A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later date.
In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the Cleveland
Sight Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral Home &

Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.
Offer condolences at
www.brunners.com


- Original Message - From: "Greg Wocher" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away



Hello,
I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away:

[Shaun Everiss]

I am not sure but I do think someone will need to take his stuff from 
his site, I'll do that later on in the next few days, and then I will 
need a place to put it.
Tom could you host it in usa games, I can probably archive the entire 
thing and put it somewhere.
but you guys can sort out something for it, an atribution archive or 
something I don't know jim as much as a lot of you but I remember him in 
the old dos game days and later on, its a pitty he will no longer be 
updating things.




On 8/08/2015 8:35 a.m., Kenny wrote:

Thats sad that we lost some one that loved creating computer games that
are accessible for the blind, but I can try to help out with the NFL
football game if I can get a hold of the source code. I wonder how I can
get a hold of the source code?
Kenny Peyatt

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen

[Shaun Everiss]

aprone if you can handle his shoes well maybe you can look for us, I 
mean you made swamp, I don't want his site to die but right now I don't 
have the time to get it, maybe over the next 2 days I will put some time 
asside to get his site down.
I will need someone to host it though I can't host on dropbox for all 
time really, I guess I could buy dropbox and pay a subscription per year 
for 1tb but to be honest someone needs to host it perminantly or several 
people, I don't think the archive is that big, but hmmm.




On 8/08/2015 7:33 a.m., Jeremy Kaldobsky wrote:

I live about 3 hours away from there.  I have no idea if I can be of any help, 
but if you're looking for people who are nearby, you can keep me in mind.
- Aprone

   From: Josh K 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 2:46 PM
  Subject: [Audyssey] jim kitchen

Cindy would like someone in the local area to look at the stuff. He
lived in Chardon Ohio.



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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Shaun Everiss]

Well if someone hasn't done this allready later on today I will take 
down all the files from his site for backup, unless that is someone 
beats me to it.
We do need a place for his files to go, I don't want all of his site to 
go and us have no access to them.




On 8/08/2015 8:03 a.m., Phil Vlasak wrote:

Hi Josh,
Unfortunately Jim Kitchen wrote most of his Windows games in Visual
Basic 6, and I am only familiar with GW basic for DOS and the GMA game
engine formats.
I think Jeremy Kaldobsky, Aprone uses VB 6.
Phil
- Original Message - From: "Josh K" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary



hey phil are you gunna take over the development of sports games or
any unfinnished games jim may have had in mind?

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 3:27 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote:

James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at
Tri Point Medical Center in Concord.
He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen
Sr. and Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally
known. He worked full time on his own website where he designed and
programmed computer
games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary
person who used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing
similar hardships. He
could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of
humor, random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice
Chairman for the Geauga
Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny
Wagstaff; his sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and
numerous nieces, nephews
and cousins.
He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing
and his beloved companion Marcie Brown.
A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later date.
In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the
Cleveland Sight Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral
Home & Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.
Offer condolences at
www.brunners.com


- Original Message - From: "Greg Wocher" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away



Hello,
I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/news-herald/obituary.aspx?n=james-h-kitchen&pid=175455371&fhid=5093




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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Shaun Everiss]

wow he will be missed.
I do wander what will happen to his site and games, I have his windows 
games, but yeah he was one of the major devs, I know he was working on 
loads of games and such.

I still recommend his stuff and will continue to do so.



On 8/08/2015 7:27 a.m., Phil Vlasak wrote:

James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at Tri
Point Medical Center in Concord.
He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen Sr.
and Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally known.
He worked full time on his own website where he designed and programmed
computer
games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary person
who used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing similar
hardships. He
could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of humor,
random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice Chairman for
the Geauga
Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny Wagstaff;
his sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and numerous nieces,
nephews
and cousins.
He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing and
his beloved companion Marcie Brown.
A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later date.
In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the Cleveland
Sight Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral Home &
Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.
Offer condolences at
www.brunners.com


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Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away



Hello,
I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
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Re: [Audyssey] Spoken 21s?

[Shaun Everiss]

dark I still see the message about profiles on the front page off every 
forum page, topic and post have you managed to sort the profiles out? 
not that I need to change things mind you.




On 7/08/2015 6:06 p.m., dark wrote:

Hi.

I've been trying to add some more games to the audiogames.net database, in 
particular some of the Ios titles, especially the smaller, more traditional 
ones that got missed, sinse after all audiogames.net does exist for all! 
accessible games not ust the big monstrous complex ones.

I've just finished pages for Spoken slots and catch 52, so was looking at 
Norman Pettus' other game, spoken 21s.
I'm afraid being a stingy skinflint, I don't particularly want to buy the thing 
even for just 79 P (I did buy catch 52, but I really can't countenance bying a 
black jack game), and sinse there is no applevis podcast for that one the way 
there is for spoken slots I don't have much idea of the game.

Obviously the thing plays blackjack, but I'm wondering if it has any fun 
ambience or unusual options the way spoken slots does? After all while i'm not 
buying spoken slots I did think the ambience was nice from the podcast I heard, 
and I liked the voice control and ability to tilt the device to spin.

So, if anyone has played spoken 21s and could tell me if there is anything 
distinctive about the game I should note on a db entryy, that would be very 
helpful.

All the best,

Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] drakor?

[darren harris]

ok so am now on the quest to kill 5 creatures in the woods. it's telling me to 
click on the manual bar under trade skills but i can't seem to find this.  any 
ideas here?

Sent from my iPad

> On 5 Aug 2015, at 00:18, dark  wrote:
> 
> Yes I did, particularly considering that the dev was very nice about a couple 
> of access fixes such as showing durability, it'll be getting a page on 
> audiogames.net when I can get it done.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Dark.
> - Original Message - From: "Darren Harris" 
> 
> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] drakor?
> 
> 
>> Did you donate to it?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
>> Sent: 04 August 2015 21:20
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] drakor?
>> 
>> Hi Darren.
>> 
>> You can only use each ability in battle once, as I said they're like a hand
>> of cards you play. Once you've used all ten abilities, you just go into turn
>> based slug fest.
>> This is why it's a good idea to have a couple of abilities of each type in
>> your hand, especially healing and remove curse in case you need more than
>> one of them.
>> 
>> Also note each battle ability has a durability stat, and when that runs to
>> zero you ca't use it anymore until you repare it which costs gold, though
>> you can donate to get the "repare all" button which does exactly what it
>> says.
>> 
>> hth.
>> 
>> Dark.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Darren Harris" 
>> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] drakor?
>> 
>> 
>>> Ok I've found out what you need to do. But I can't seem to find out how
>>> far
>>> I've progressed through the quest. If I have to kill 15 creatures for
>>> example and I lose count how do I find out how many more left?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Darren
>>> Harris
>>> Sent: 04 August 2015 20:55
>>> To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] drakor?
>>> 
>>> Hi dark,
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Am now in battle if I want to use the same ability again without starting
>>> a
>>> battle again how do I do this?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
>>> Sent: 30 July 2015 13:07
>>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] drakor?
>>> 
>>> Hi Darren.
>>> 
>>> The inventory is a bit weerd mostly because a lot of the lower level items
>>> don't have useful names.
>>> For example an item to be equipped on the hands is just called "hands"
>>> When you click on any item, it will open a separate little panel. In
>>> supernova I always find these at the top of the screen. In that panel will
>>> be the item info and an "equip" or "use" button. I'll then be asked if I
>>> want to equip it and there is a message in the inventory section, also if
>>> it's a battle stratogy item I'll be asked which battle slot it should go
>>> in
>>> and there is a dropdown box.
>>> 
>>> The way battles work is a bit  odd but good when you get used to it,
>>> basically you have a hand of 10 battle stratogy items which are like cards
>>> in a ccg. You can choose items like damage, defend, poison, heal, curse
>>> etc,
>>> 
>>> and you stick them in each of the ten slots, then in each turn of the
>>> battle
>>> 
>>> you choose which one you use.
>>> 
>>> As I said the one slightly confusing thing is that a lot of items are just
>>> called very general things such as "damage" or "curse" or "arms" and you
>>> need to look at the info to say what they do.
>>> 
>>> The other thing about the inventory, is that it is split into two
>>> sections,
>>> trade materials and items. Each  slot you alocate to trade materials will
>>> let you carry one more resource type (You can carry as much of that
>>> resource
>>> 
>>> as you want, but you need the slots). You do this with the "inventory
>>> options" link which will give you a menu to choose how many slots to
>>> alocate
>>> 
>>> to resources.
>>> 
>>> hth.
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> 
>>> Dark.
>>> 
>>> Remember, lots of hot spot clicking is needed, on everything from
>>> locations
>>> to items.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Darren Harris" 
>>> 
>>> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] drakor?
>>> 
>>> 
 So how do I equip something dark? That is stumping me at the moment.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
 Sent: 30 July 2015 11:06
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] drakor?
 
 Hi Darren.
 
 The only major access issue used to be that  durability for   battle
 abilities only displayed graphically, but now that is fixed.
 The major thing about drakor is that it uses lots and lots and

Re: [Audyssey] drakor?

[darren harris]

that's great that the dev made those changes and quickly. i think i'm going to 
like this game. is it as large a game as altterion do you think? there's 
certainly a lot of player activity on there or there certainly seems to be.

are there any other access points that i need to know further into the game? i 
haven't tried playing it on my iPhone or iPad yet but i do want to give that a 
go to see how well it works or doesn't.



Sent from my iPad

> On 5 Aug 2015, at 00:18, dark  wrote:
> 
> Yes I did, particularly considering that the dev was very nice about a couple 
> of access fixes such as showing durability, it'll be getting a page on 
> audiogames.net when I can get it done.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Dark.
> - Original Message - From: "Darren Harris" 
> 
> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] drakor?
> 
> 
>> Did you donate to it?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
>> Sent: 04 August 2015 21:20
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] drakor?
>> 
>> Hi Darren.
>> 
>> You can only use each ability in battle once, as I said they're like a hand
>> of cards you play. Once you've used all ten abilities, you just go into turn
>> based slug fest.
>> This is why it's a good idea to have a couple of abilities of each type in
>> your hand, especially healing and remove curse in case you need more than
>> one of them.
>> 
>> Also note each battle ability has a durability stat, and when that runs to
>> zero you ca't use it anymore until you repare it which costs gold, though
>> you can donate to get the "repare all" button which does exactly what it
>> says.
>> 
>> hth.
>> 
>> Dark.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Darren Harris" 
>> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] drakor?
>> 
>> 
>>> Ok I've found out what you need to do. But I can't seem to find out how
>>> far
>>> I've progressed through the quest. If I have to kill 15 creatures for
>>> example and I lose count how do I find out how many more left?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Darren
>>> Harris
>>> Sent: 04 August 2015 20:55
>>> To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] drakor?
>>> 
>>> Hi dark,
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Am now in battle if I want to use the same ability again without starting
>>> a
>>> battle again how do I do this?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
>>> Sent: 30 July 2015 13:07
>>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] drakor?
>>> 
>>> Hi Darren.
>>> 
>>> The inventory is a bit weerd mostly because a lot of the lower level items
>>> don't have useful names.
>>> For example an item to be equipped on the hands is just called "hands"
>>> When you click on any item, it will open a separate little panel. In
>>> supernova I always find these at the top of the screen. In that panel will
>>> be the item info and an "equip" or "use" button. I'll then be asked if I
>>> want to equip it and there is a message in the inventory section, also if
>>> it's a battle stratogy item I'll be asked which battle slot it should go
>>> in
>>> and there is a dropdown box.
>>> 
>>> The way battles work is a bit  odd but good when you get used to it,
>>> basically you have a hand of 10 battle stratogy items which are like cards
>>> in a ccg. You can choose items like damage, defend, poison, heal, curse
>>> etc,
>>> 
>>> and you stick them in each of the ten slots, then in each turn of the
>>> battle
>>> 
>>> you choose which one you use.
>>> 
>>> As I said the one slightly confusing thing is that a lot of items are just
>>> called very general things such as "damage" or "curse" or "arms" and you
>>> need to look at the info to say what they do.
>>> 
>>> The other thing about the inventory, is that it is split into two
>>> sections,
>>> trade materials and items. Each  slot you alocate to trade materials will
>>> let you carry one more resource type (You can carry as much of that
>>> resource
>>> 
>>> as you want, but you need the slots). You do this with the "inventory
>>> options" link which will give you a menu to choose how many slots to
>>> alocate
>>> 
>>> to resources.
>>> 
>>> hth.
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> 
>>> Dark.
>>> 
>>> Remember, lots of hot spot clicking is needed, on everything from
>>> locations
>>> to items.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Darren Harris" 
>>> 
>>> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] drakor?
>>> 
>>> 
 So how do I equip something dark? That is stumping me at the moment.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
 Sent: 30 July 2015 11:06
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subjec

Re: [Audyssey] death match a new beginning

[Shaun Everiss]

I havn't had that issue yesterday, but I have not got a ship lately 
since something screwed.
teleports seem to beam you to the start deck of something like signus 
but thats a thought why that would happen.

Maybe something is not syncing right.
It appears though from private coms in the folder that a restructuring 
of rs is going on and I may or may not be a rep for much longer.




On 3/08/2015 3:14 a.m., ishan dhami wrote:

Hello friends!
I have a question regarding death match a new beginning.
Whenever I restart the game I am shown in my ship but in reality I am
in signus alfa.
How can I fix it?
Thanks
Ishan

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[Audyssey] (no subject)

[sm . everiss]

well if it was with this jaws system out I' buy the entire system but to 
be honest yeah a game for 150 not even a sighted game is like this.

Now if leasy had its own console with games on it and such maybe I'd buy it.



On 29/07/2015 1:37 p.m., Charles Rivard wrote:

A suggestion:  If the game is available as part of a package that really
isn't usable to nonJAWS users, let people know that the game is
available for, then list what it will cost people to get it.  If I can
get the game for $150, and I'm only using this as an example, I won't
buy it.  The game, which is all I am interested in, is not worth that
price.  The loss of sales is then Brian's problem and Brian's fault.

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- Original Message - From: "dark" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home



Hi Tom.

I've made a practice of not deleting games that were once available
but currently are not from the db, sinse it's surprising how often old
ones pop up, or in the cases of some games how people manage to
acquire them anyway even if audiogames.net won't help people to do so
unless the games are officially abandonware.
Hence why the pages for the bsc titles and bavisoft games are still up.
this is what the "unknown" license type is for, ie, we don't know what
has become of the game.

I will not therefore remove Q9's entry, but I won't advertise sleasy
either, I will put a note to the effect the rights have been sold but
the game is legally unavailable, sinse for most intents and purposes,
it is.

If this Brian Hartgen wants to contact me and discuss the problem,
well I'll be glad to tell him what I think.

Beware the grue!

Dark.

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[Audyssey] (no subject)

[sm . everiss]

true, I agree even though I think it unfair I agree it makes sence.



On 29/07/2015 1:08 p.m., Charles Rivard wrote:

I'll bet that it has just the opposite effect.  I, for one, would not
buy his package in order to get the game.  The game may be thought of as
a bonus for those who buy, but I don't think it is enough of an
incentive to boost package sales.

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- Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home



Hi Dark,

Not sure I'd go as far to call Brian Hartgen a moron since his reasons
for not selling Q9 separately makes sense from a certain business
point of view. As I understand it his entire purpose of acquiring the
game was not to sell the game but to use it to add onto his Leasey
product, to boost sales of Leasey, so seen from that perspective it
makes sense. There is a lot that could be said here greedy, scummy,
unfair, etc but the bottom line is he won't sell the game as a stand
alone product because it was never his intention to do it that way. He
is bundling it into his Leasey product and if you want it you have to
pay the big bucks for Leasey.

To be honest I don't think Brian Hartgen really thought about the
ramifications of what this would do and how angry this would make the
audio games community. He saw this as a simple business transaction,
one in which would boost sales of Leasey, and he didn't care if it
effectively took Q9 off the market. He is not a game developer per se,
and thus he has no ties to the community the way many long time audio
game developers do. So he just does not see it the same way we see it.
To him Q9 is just another piece of software to be sold or added to
Leasey rather than sold  as a separately existing product.

On 7/28/15, dark  wrote:

Well then he shal recieve my scorn for being a moron! Really, not
selling
something to people is a great way to run a business.

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Shaun Everiss]

I think everyone has shown themselves.
And I don't care to pirate either even though I was one a long time ago.
Fact is all other avenues were sorted and no one is shifting.
I won't publish my info on here or on the net or on the forum or put it 
out for everyone to use but if someone requests this off list as a gamer 
I will send it in protest because of things being unfair.


And look at what tom ward posted in the ag.net thread, unless mr ward 
has changed his stance on the issue.

I do understand both sides, however with no warning well.
it doesn't matter in the long run anyway.
We will just have to create something else based on this or whatever its 
not like clones havn't been done before we can do it again.




On 29/07/2015 12:55 p.m., Charles Rivard wrote:

I would show it as it is, honestly, pointing out the pitfalls, and let
him suffer the consequences.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home



Well Tom, in that case he can bugger off as well!

Ive got half a mind to change the license type to "unknown" for Q9 in
the audiogames.net db and put a note to the effect similar to those on
the bsc games that the developer, ie, philip is no longer selling the
game and it is legally unavailable, sinse hay if this prat won't
support the community, why should that community support him?

Then again, even if I just wrote the truth that the game is only now
available with a package software deal that requires a Jaws license
and even for someone with a Jaws license will cost $150, I doubt it'll
improve his sales figures anyway :D.



Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Shaun Everiss]

You know I don't think he actually gives a ducks ass.

On 29/07/2015 11:14 a.m., Devin Prater wrote:

Lol, you could, obviously, but Mister Hard Gin might sue you.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 28, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Josh K  wrote:

can I give my q9 standard version key to people who want q9 but who don't want 
to buy jaws and leesy?

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982


On 7/28/2015 11:01 AM, dark wrote:
It is true that "new games will come"
But with the number of audio games being so small, it's always a shame when 
something is lost, this is one reason why justin Dobemire got such a lot of 
deserved flack for what he did to bsc games, essentially making them legally 
unavailable forever more amen.

I hope as I said,  this twit who develops leasy will realize the value of what 
he owns and treat it with the respect it deserves.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home



Philip legally doesn't even own the product he created anymore. There is 
literally nothing he can do. He can't sell his own game, he can't reclaim it, 
its just not his anymore. But y'all don't worry. New games will come, with 
developers with new creativity and better sense, and Liesy and its Jaws fetish 
will rise and it'll fall.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 27, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Scott Chesworth  wrote:

Hi Philip,

I've read the AudioGames topic you linked to, and whilst I totally
understand your decision to transfer ownership as a means of being
paid for the time you've put into developing Q9, I can't help echoing
the thoughts of many in that discussion that JAWS being a requirement
for Q9 is a shame. A decade ago when JAWS was the biggest fish in the
pond, this would've made more sense, but nowadays...?

Is there no scope to offer an alternative sales channel through
Blastbay for people who don't use JAWS?

Scott


On 7/24/15, Philip Bennefall  wrote:
Hi again,

Just wanted to follow up briefly and point those who have questions as
to why I transferred the rights of Q9, to the audiogames.net topic under
general game discussion. Hopefully I have managed to answer all the
questions there.

http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=225202#p225202

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall

On 7/23/2015 4:17 PM, Philip Bennefall wrote:
Hi all,

I just wanted to post a quick announcement to let you all know that Q9
is moving. From today, the Q9 action game will no longer be sold from
Blastbay Studios but will instead be available as part of the Leasey
package (www.leaseycentral.com). Of course, all existing users can
continue to play the game normally; all issued keys remain valid and
can be reused if you format your PC or buy a new one.

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall

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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Shaun Everiss]

well I do think everything that can be said about this has been said 
neither side is budging and well the game was old.
We will just have to remake it and to be honest the plot was a bit 
simple, though it was good for its time.




On 29/07/2015 3:19 p.m., Josh K wrote:

yes good argument lets keep it at that otherwise this could start
something bad on list that I don't want started. if you want to share q9
do it in private i think.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 7/28/2015 11:03 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Josh,

The problem with your argument is this. Regardless if you take
something physical or not if you take something that belongs to a
person be it an idea, song, a story, or a piece of software it is
still considered steeling because according to the law you have an
obligation to pay for it. If someone takes something without paying
for it that is by definition steeling. In a case such as this a person
hasn't actually stolen the game or software itself, but have stolen
the opportunity to sell the software. Therefore that developer loses
out on the amount of money he or she was owed which effectively is the
same as taking it out of his or her wallet. In both cases the
developer does not have the money to spend because he/she never was
given the money for that use of the software.



On 7/28/15, Josh K  wrote:

how is it stealing? stealing is taking something from someone and once
you take it that person no longer has or owns it. example. i take your
wallet with money in it, therefore you no longer have the wallet or the
money I have it, I stole it from you.
now I buy a game. I get the unlock info and setup for the game. so now I
have that info and also the developer of the game also has that same
info. now I give my unlock code to you. so now you have my unlock code
too. should you have it? no. but you do. but wait, the developer of the
game still has his game, the source code, and the unlock code that he
gave to me. I did not steal anything from him. the only thing i did was
the developer lost money because i shared a game. this falls under the
category of dishonesty not really stealing. how will we prosecute
criminals when the day comes when lets say you have a nice car and I
want that car. well stealing is a thing of the past I pull out my
duplicator gun, point it at the car hit a button and voila! I have an
exact working copy of your vehicle built atom by atom. and I even have
your keys! oh but wait you still have your own car and your own keys. I
should have paid for the car most that happened was the car dealer lost
out on getting my money for something i should have baught rather than
coppied. same thing happens if i borrow a book from a friend, read it,
and i like it. technically i should have gone out and baught the book
for myself so the author lost money because my friend shared his book
with me. stealing is taking something so the original owner no longer
has that thing. its stolen. this is not stealing its well copying. I
think culturally we have to change our terms. pirates, they steal. that
is pirates who loot ships and stuff they steal. but could we really call
them pirates if they board your ship and duplicate the stuff they want
put the copies on their ship and go off? no you still have the
originals. and if that day comes even money will no longer have value.
in fact if you can just copy everything then nothing has value because
everything can be coppied. so we would then have to completely rethink
our whole entire world economic system. and this could go on forever so
I'll stop here.

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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Shaun Everiss]

well the game is old, to be honest it was fun while it lasted.
And to be honest the keys can just float round the net.
I sertainly have no issues with floating mine if someone asks for it.
As far as I care phil chose to quit the ag community and sold the game 
to someone that thought it good for business and thats it.
the current stand alone version is technically abandonware even if it 
legally isn't and especially now you can't get it anymore, blasttbay 
still has an installer and thats about it.
Leasy can't go to nvda because of licencing for opensource, though to be 
honest if it could use something like tolque which has all the 
interfaces in which some stuff I use like teamtalk does that could avoid 
the issue some what, and that is opensource library.

Ofcause thats opensource and not payed for, but even so.



On 29/07/2015 11:20 a.m., Josh K wrote:

but that's not fair! what if someone wants to buy the stand alone
version? now they cannot get it at all!

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 7/28/2015 4:43 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:

Legally, nope.

On 7/28/15, Josh K  wrote:

can I give my q9 standard version key to people who want q9 but who
don't want to buy jaws and leesy?

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 7/28/2015 11:01 AM, dark wrote:

It is true that "new games will come"
But with the number of audio games being so small, it's always a shame
when something is lost, this is one reason why justin Dobemire got
such a lot of deserved flack for what he did to bsc games, essentially
making them legally unavailable forever more amen.

I hope as I said,  this twit who develops leasy will realize the value
of what he owns and treat it with the respect it deserves.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "Devin Prater"

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home



Philip legally doesn't even own the product he created anymore. There
is literally nothing he can do. He can't sell his own game, he can't
reclaim it, its just not his anymore. But y'all don't worry. New
games will come, with developers with new creativity and better
sense, and Liesy and its Jaws fetish will rise and it'll fall.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 27, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Scott Chesworth
 wrote:

Hi Philip,

I've read the AudioGames topic you linked to, and whilst I totally
understand your decision to transfer ownership as a means of being
paid for the time you've put into developing Q9, I can't help echoing
the thoughts of many in that discussion that JAWS being a requirement
for Q9 is a shame. A decade ago when JAWS was the biggest fish in the
pond, this would've made more sense, but nowadays...?

Is there no scope to offer an alternative sales channel through
Blastbay for people who don't use JAWS?

Scott


On 7/24/15, Philip Bennefall  wrote:
Hi again,

Just wanted to follow up briefly and point those who have
questions as
to why I transferred the rights of Q9, to the audiogames.net topic
under
general game discussion. Hopefully I have managed to answer all the
questions there.

http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=225202#p225202

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall

On 7/23/2015 4:17 PM, Philip Bennefall wrote:
Hi all,

I just wanted to post a quick announcement to let you all know
that Q9
is moving. From today, the Q9 action game will no longer be sold
from
Blastbay Studios but will instead be available as part of the
Leasey
package (www.leaseycentral.com). Of course, all existing users can
continue to play the game normally; all issued keys remain valid
and
can be reused if you format your PC or buy a new one.

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall

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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Charles Rivard]

One of the problems with today's society is that because everyone does it, 
it's OK.  It's no big deal because, what the heck, everyone does it.  Make 
illegal drugs legal because everyone's using them anyway, so why bother? 
Just because theft is common practice, it should not be OK to steal.


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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home


well yes technically the dictionary definition is right. but really all 
this over a game? a $25 or $30 game? I can see pirating jaws its over 
$1000 and not many can afford it but pirating a $30 game or even $70 
eloquence really no need.


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 7/28/2015 10:31 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
If I am selling a game, and you get a copy of the game without paying me 
for that copy, you have stolen it from me. That's piracy.


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- Original Message - From: "Josh K" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home


how is it stealing? stealing is taking something from someone and once 
you take it that person no longer has or owns it. example. i take your 
wallet with money in it, therefore you no longer have the wallet or the 
money I have it, I stole it from you.
now I buy a game. I get the unlock info and setup for the game. so now I 
have that info and also the developer of the game also has that same 
info. now I give my unlock code to you. so now you have my unlock code 
too. should you have it? no. but you do. but wait, the developer of the 
game still has his game, the source code, and the unlock code that he 
gave to me. I did not steal anything from him. the only thing i did was 
the developer lost money because i shared a game. this falls under the 
category of dishonesty not really stealing. how will we prosecute 
criminals when the day comes when lets say you have a nice car and I 
want that car. well stealing is a thing of the past I pull out my 
duplicator gun, point it at the car hit a button and voila! I have an 
exact working copy of your vehicle built atom by atom. and I even have 
your keys! oh but wait you still have your own car and your own keys. I 
should have paid for the car most that happened was the car dealer lost 
out on getting my money for something i should have baught rather than 
coppied. same thing happens if i borrow a book from a friend, read it, 
and i like it. technically i should have gone out and baught the book 
for myself so the author lost money because my friend shared his book 
with me. stealing is taking something so the original owner no longer 
has that thing. its stolen. this is not stealing its well copying. I 
think culturally we have to change our terms. pirates, they steal. that 
is pirates who loot ships and stuff they steal. but could we really call 
them pirates if they board your ship and duplicate the stuff they want 
put the copies on their ship and go off? no you still have the 
originals. and if that day comes even money will no longer have value. 
in fact if you can just copy everything then nothing has value because 
everything can be coppied. so we would then have to completely rethink 
our whole entire world economic system. and this could go on forever so 
I'll stop here.


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 7/28/2015 8:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:

I would not pirate, because that is stealing.  Period.

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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home


I'm willing to bet that some cool hacker will make an add-on for NVDA 
to interface with that Jaws-fetish software that I can't spell. Then 
buying the thing wouldn't exactly be all that wasteful, although I'd 
rather pirate it to try it out for 30 minutes or so just to see how 
mind-numbingly restrictive and basic it is, than buy it, then throw it 
away.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Thomas Ward  
wrote:


Hi Dark,

Agreed. I wouldn't blame anyone for pirating the game in secret, and
no I can't feel sorry or any sympathy for Brian Hartgen if that
happens because its his own fault. Someone who clearly refuses to 
sell

single end user licenses to include it in a more expensive product,
something many people don't need, is just begging for disreputable
people to rip it off as fast as possible. Although, I don't 
personally

know of any such instances I wouldn't be surprised if this has not
already happened. People won't buy Leasey just to acquire a game that
use to sell for a fraction of the 

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Charles Rivard]

Just because they do so, that does not make it lawful to do so.  Stealing is 
stealing regardless of how many do it.


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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home



hmmm grand skeem of things friends will share books games and whatever
else they like.

On 7/28/15, Charles Rivard  wrote:
If I am selling a game, and you get a copy of the game without paying me 
for


that copy, you have stolen it from me.  That's piracy.

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From: "Josh K" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home


how is it stealing? stealing is taking something from someone and once 
you


take it that person no longer has or owns it. example. i take your 
wallet


with money in it, therefore you no longer have the wallet or the money I
have it, I stole it from you.
now I buy a game. I get the unlock info and setup for the game. so now I
have that info and also the developer of the game also has that same 
info.


now I give my unlock code to you. so now you have my unlock code too.
should you have it? no. but you do. but wait, the developer of the game
still has his game, the source code, and the unlock code that he gave to
me. I did not steal anything from him. the only thing i did was the
developer lost money because i shared a game. this falls under the
category of dishonesty not really stealing. how will we prosecute
criminals when the day comes when lets say you have a nice car and I 
want


that car. well stealing is a thing of the past I pull out my duplicator
gun, point it at the car hit a button and voila! I have an exact working
copy of your vehicle built atom by atom. and I even have your keys! oh 
but


wait you still have your own car and your own keys. I should have paid 
for


the car most that happened was the car dealer lost out on getting my 
money


for something i should have baught rather than coppied. same thing 
happens


if i borrow a book from a friend, read it, and i like it. technically i
should have gone out and baught the book for myself so the author lost
money because my friend shared his book with me. stealing is taking
something so the original owner no longer has that thing. its stolen. 
this


is not stealing its well copying. I think culturally we have to change 
our


terms. pirates, they steal. that is pirates who loot ships and stuff 
they


steal. but could we really call them pirates if they board your ship and
duplicate the stuff they want put the copies on their ship and go off? 
no


you still have the originals. and if that day comes even money will no
longer have value. in fact if you can just copy everything then nothing
has value because everything can be coppied. so we would then have to
completely rethink our whole entire world economic system. and this 
could


go on forever so I'll stop here.

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On 7/28/2015 8:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:

I would not pirate, because that is stealing.  Period.

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I'm willing to bet that some cool hacker will make an add-on for NVDA 
to


interface with that Jaws-fetish software that I can't spell. Then 
buying


the thing wouldn't exactly be all that wasteful, although I'd rather
pirate it to try it out for 30 minutes or so just to see how
mind-numbingly restrictive and basic it is, than buy it, then throw it
away.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 28, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Thomas Ward 
wrote:

Hi Dark,

Agreed. I wouldn't blame anyone for pirating the game in secret, and
no I can't feel sorry or any sympathy for Brian Hartgen if that
happens because its his own fault. Someone who clearly refuses to 
sell

single end user licenses to include it in a more expensive product,
something many people don't need, is just begging for disreputable
people to rip it off as fast as possible. Although, I don't 
personally

know of any such instances I wouldn't be surprised if this has not
already happened. People won't buy Leasey just to acquire a game that
use to sell for a fraction of the price. If they can they'll pirate 
it

instead, and that is a fact.




On 7/28/15, dark  wrote:
Well Tom It's a great shame Philip couldn't sell his game to a more
deserving party, not that I blaime him for this Brian fellow's
stupidity, a

very blind man indeed if he can't realize what he's got :D.

If this is truly the case I would not be sorry for someone to p

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Shaun Everiss]

I agree.
Leasy costs a lot then again its jaws I object to buying.
I'd buy leasy maybe.



On 29/07/2015 2:59 a.m., dark wrote:

As I sid in that topic, I don't feel any animocity towards Philip, he
deserves paying for his time, but I do think this is a bad consequence
for anyone who might want to play the game i the future and doesn't want
to either by jaws or leasy, (which itself is not cheap either).

I do think the leasy developers are being extremely narrow minded here
and just using the game as a bonus item on their sales of jaws specific
products, rather than treating philip's work with the respect it
deserves, or allowing it to be available to as wide an audience as
possible, and as I said, I do hope Philip will take steps to at least
see if the people be hind leasy will consider selling the game as a
stand alone version in the future. After all, such a decision can only
be of bennifit to them sinse if someone buys the game who would never
ordinarily buy Leasy or Jaws, say a Supernova or Window eyes or nvda
user, well they get a prophet they wouldn't have had normally, someone
else gets access to the game, and all are happy. It's not even as if Q9
needs to output to a screen reader specifically sinse it's entirely self
voicing.

The restriction as I said is disrespectful to Philip's work and the
community, and indeed yet another division of a minority, and as I said
while I am fully aware Philip is not responsable for this, I will say my
opinion of the developers of Leasy who are imposing this needless
restriction and turning a quite legitimate stand alone game into just an
extra for their existing jaws specific software is not high.

Hopefully, Philip will be able to convince them to give the game the
respect and availability it deserves and see sense.

Beware the grue!

Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Shaun Everiss]

Well strictly speaking probably not but read tward on the ag forum.
I don't think the mods will mind if people start sharing keys though I'd 
probably hasard a guess you would have to do it off list.




On 29/07/2015 5:53 a.m., Josh K wrote:

can I give my q9 standard version key to people who want q9 but who
don't want to buy jaws and leesy?

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On 7/28/2015 11:01 AM, dark wrote:

It is true that "new games will come"
But with the number of audio games being so small, it's always a shame
when something is lost, this is one reason why justin Dobemire got
such a lot of deserved flack for what he did to bsc games, essentially
making them legally unavailable forever more amen.

I hope as I said,  this twit who develops leasy will realize the value
of what he owns and treat it with the respect it deserves.

All the best,

Dark.
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Philip legally doesn't even own the product he created anymore. There
is literally nothing he can do. He can't sell his own game, he can't
reclaim it, its just not his anymore. But y'all don't worry. New
games will come, with developers with new creativity and better
sense, and Liesy and its Jaws fetish will rise and it'll fall.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 27, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Scott Chesworth
 wrote:

Hi Philip,

I've read the AudioGames topic you linked to, and whilst I totally
understand your decision to transfer ownership as a means of being
paid for the time you've put into developing Q9, I can't help echoing
the thoughts of many in that discussion that JAWS being a requirement
for Q9 is a shame. A decade ago when JAWS was the biggest fish in the
pond, this would've made more sense, but nowadays...?

Is there no scope to offer an alternative sales channel through
Blastbay for people who don't use JAWS?

Scott


On 7/24/15, Philip Bennefall  wrote:
Hi again,

Just wanted to follow up briefly and point those who have questions as
to why I transferred the rights of Q9, to the audiogames.net topic
under
general game discussion. Hopefully I have managed to answer all the
questions there.

http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=225202#p225202

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall

On 7/23/2015 4:17 PM, Philip Bennefall wrote:
Hi all,

I just wanted to post a quick announcement to let you all know
that Q9
is moving. From today, the Q9 action game will no longer be sold from
Blastbay Studios but will instead be available as part of the Leasey
package (www.leaseycentral.com). Of course, all existing users can
continue to play the game normally; all issued keys remain valid and
can be reused if you format your PC or buy a new one.

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall

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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Scott Chesworth]

Hi Ian,

Yep, I'd seen the first link, but Bryan's response was new to me so
thanks for that. I figured it was worth asking here because the outcry
wasn't overwhelming yet, but having just read that no further comments
will be forthcoming I guess I won't be getting a response direct from
the horses mouth. NO matter really, it's clear at this point that
however politely written they might be (and to be fair, most of them
weren't), individual protestations aren't going to change anything.

For what it's worth, I already own Q9. Have done since release day or
pretty close to it. I've got massive respect for Philip's development
chops and his taste in SFX. It's a big shame that the community wasn't
large enough to provide enough of an income to make it worth him
retaining the rights to his creation. I've had to pass along rights to
music I've sweated over before to make ends meet, and can sympathise
that it's not always an easy decision. However, my disappointment
stems from the business model of where the rights now reside. Philip
would've been aware of said model, and from a couple of brief
conversations over the years I had him pegged up as a pretty forward
thinking chap, hence his decision of who to sell to surprised me.
That's why I attempted to open a dialogue somewhere a little less
fraught.

In my mind, for a community as small as this one, games being tied to
specific screen readers is a terrible idea, which makes games being
tied to a paid product which is in turn tied to a paid screen reader a
*truly* terrible idea! Tbh, I'd question who Leasy's users even are,
given that funding for JAWS licenses isn't dished out willy-nilly
anymore. I mean, do you know many people with enough spare change to
invest in a JAWS license which costs more than an entry level
computer, then splash a bit more cash to change the user interface of
that expensive product they've just bought? I don't! Perhaps Bryan is
shooting for exclusive content such as Q9 making his platform more
appealing, but I would've thought it would've been clear from a bit of
research that a large - if not majority - portion of the younger
generation in this community (his potential long-term customers) are
going to turn their nose up at anyone who's willingly hopped into bed
with Freedom Scientific.

Of course, this is all just one chap's opinion. The decision was
Philip's to make, and he made it. I guess at this point I'm mostly
sounding off because if Leasy have any sort of buying power, this
might not be the only game to be acquired rather than developed
specifically for a platform which frankly, I would hope is short
lived. That's a strong statement, but it carries no animosity on a
personal level to anyone involved. I'm saying that it's the business
model that sucks for end users, not necessarily the people behind it.

Lastly, for anyone who made it this far and has me pegged as another
holier than thou armchair critic, I should probably point out that
I've been instrumental in finding funding for a couple of
accessibility products, so I feel pretty confident in stating that
Leasy's model isn't the only way. Funding is still out there for good
ideas. That funding can greatly reduce the cost for end users, and if
Leasy were screen reader agnostic, it could've been a product that
attracted more young, hungry gamers. But nope.

Anyway, just a splurge of my initial thoughts on the subject. Maybe
they'll reach a future developer who gets approached and give him or
her something to chew on...

Scott

On 7/27/15, Ian Reed  wrote:
> Hi Scott,
>
> In post 48 Philip said:
> The transfer of rights is already concluded, so at this point anyone who
> wants to obtain Q9 will have to contact the folks behind Leasey.
> *snip*
>
> To me this says that Philip can not continue to sell the game through
> Blast Bay.
>
> Someone also posted a link to Bryan Hartgen's response regarding Q9:
> http://www.hartgen.org/q9
>
> In which he says:
> Just to summarise, if anyone purchased a license for the game in the
> past, of course that is still going to function. However, no further
> standalone licenses will be issued.
> *snip*
>
> While I do understand people being frustrated that Q9 now requires Jaws
> and Leasy to play, the people who already purchased the standalone
> version can continue to play it as they have in the past.
> The game was available for 6 years, to me this says that anyone who was
> serious about purchasing it has already had ample opportunity to do so.
>
> Despite people's frustration, I would urge people to remember that
> Philip released several free games as well as the Blast Bay Game Studio.
> He contributed a lot of time and energy to this community and deserves
> our respect.
>
> Cheers,
> Ian Reed
> Try my free games at http://BlindAudioGames.com
>
>
> On 7/27/2015 1:30 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>> Chaps, we should probably keep this discussion specific to Q9 rather
>> than turning it into a FS bashfest, however tempting that might be.
>> 

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Shaun Everiss]

well you can still get a demo if you have a key allready.
or someone will probably give you a key.
Its probably what will happen on the forum  its been suggested that that 
may be the only way to play the game now.
On the otherside its an old game it was a good intro to bgt but I havn't 
played it in ages.




On 25/07/2015 4:50 a.m., Darren Duff wrote:

So what happendes if you don't have jfw or don't want the Leasey package
but you just want the game? Slitely confused here!

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On 7/23/2015 10:17 AM, Philip Bennefall wrote:

Hi all,

I just wanted to post a quick announcement to let you all know that Q9
is moving. From today, the Q9 action game will no longer be sold from
Blastbay Studios but will instead be available as part of the Leasey
package (www.leaseycentral.com). Of course, all existing users can
continue to play the game normally; all issued keys remain valid and
can be reused if you format your PC or buy a new one.

Kind regards,

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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Shaun Everiss]

according to the audiogames net forum the game is old and phill is not 
developing it anymore so decided to put it where it is now.
I personally don't aggree with people putting things to a jwas centric 
platform the cost is one thing and the other is it requires a sertain 
software package.
It would be like my favorite office program requiring the top of the 
line processer or thousand dollar video card or something like that.
I understand why it was done and if leasy supported more stuff I may 
even buy into the platform in a few years time.
as it is though bar q9 and a few stand alone free games nothing to see 
for the home user at least.




On 24/07/2015 7:00 a.m., john wrote:

Interesting change. Would you be willing to elaborate a bit on why you took
this rout?

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Hi all,

I just wanted to post a quick announcement to let you all know that Q9
is moving. From today, the Q9 action game will no longer be sold from
Blastbay Studios but will instead be available as part of the Leasey
package (www.leaseycentral.com). Of course, all existing users can
continue to play the game normally; all issued keys remain valid and can
be reused if you format your PC or buy a new one.

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall

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Re: [Audyssey] 3D Audio Using Multiple Files Per Sound

[Shaun Everiss]

well remember all your sounds that are not wav will need to be 
decompressed when used.

wav can be a bit big.
I would suggest you use pure basic with the free sl engine, that is how 
realitysoftware uses it and its been extremely popular.
pure basic costs cash, free sl, the crypt module we use and a few other 
things are free/opensource.

ofcause bgt is a script and is itself free so whatever.



On 21/07/2015 4:36 a.m., Gavin Grundlingh wrote:

Hi all,

I'm developing an audio game using BGT. Since it doesn't support 3D
audio, I'm splitting each sound up into 4 mono files (one left, one
right, one inverted left, and one inverted right). So, my questions
are:

1. Do any of you know the correct mathematical calculation for volume
and pan to make transitioning between these four files realistic?

2. Since code is only ever executed one line at a time, is there a way
to ensure that the files are perfectly in sync with one another when
starting playback on them?

3. Which is the better format to use for said sounds, as far as
synchronization issues are concerned? Wav or ogg?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Regards,

Gavin

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[brennenkinch]

Same gos for me to i still have his games and still play them every once in a 
while
I wish his family all the best

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> On Aug 7, 2015, at 2:45 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My thoughts 
> go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I played them in 
> the past. May he rest in peace.
>> On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:
>> 
>> hi pass this on.
>> just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd 2015. 
>> Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you can look up 
>> the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. Cindy is trying 
>> to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's email is
>> psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and stuff. I 
>> would like to get the source for all his games.
>> thanks
>> 
>> Josh
>> 
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen's games

[Gavin Grundlingh]

Hi Josh,

In Windows 8 and above, setting the User Account Control notification 
level slider to 0 does not automatically disable UAC entirely as it did 
in Windows 7. To fix this, you need to go into Local Security Policy.


1. Go to the Run dialog and type secpol.msc.

2. Navigate to Security Settings > Local Policies, > Security Opeions.

3. Look for the option that says, "User Account Control: Run all 
administrators in Admin Approval Mode". This setting will either be set 
to Not Configured or Enabled.


4. Press Enter on this setting, select the Disabled radio button, and 
hit OK..


Hipe this helps.

Regards,

Gavin

On 8/6/2015 20:43, Josh K wrote:

hi
in windows10 when I try installing a game into c:\program files 
x86\kitchensinc\ it says cannot write output files. this is because in 
windos10 and 8 and above it won't let even administrators write to 
those folders. well if i try copying files into those folders it lets 
me but only after i click the continue with automatic administrator 
rights button. so how do i make it like windows7 where i can freely 
install such games? also in regards to espeak this windows10 
restricting me from modding such files will also prevent me from 
modifying espeak variant files. is there a way to fix this?





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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[mattias]

Because philip love jaws to much

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Hi Josh,

Yeah, of course it isn't fair. From now on if someone wants the game they
have to pirate it. Sad but true. There is no longer a legal way to
affordably purchase the game.



On 7/28/15, Josh K  wrote:
> but that's not fair! what if someone wants to buy the stand alone 
> version? now they cannot get it at all!
>
> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

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[Audyssey] q9

[mattias]

Can people here stop to take philip in Defence

Or what the English word are

Developers should not force users to a specific screen reader

 

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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[mattias]

Can all people stop take Philip  in Defence
Or what the English word are
I meen wich developer force people to use a specific screen reader


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I would think that he's shooting himself in both feet with this practice. 
As for hoping that he goes bankrupt or anything like that, I hope not.  I
wouldn't wish that on anyone.  However, I feel that sensibly written
complaints are valid, and I hope that, eventually, he sees the light and
does what is appropriate.  If the game is made available as a stand alone
purchase, I hope he considers that a quick nickel always beats a slow dollar
when it comes to income.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home


> Hi Dark,
>
> I agree. Selling Q9 as a separate product might do him more good than 
> including it as an add-on for Leasey, but apparently he thinks 
> otherwise. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to care what we think and I 
> don't see that situation changing any time soon.
>
> As for your feelings on the matter I'm pretty certain a lot of others 
> are wishing him and his business ill will right now. He said in his 
> most recent blog post that he has been getting a lot of hate mail over 
> this, and I'm not surprised. As a recipient of some of that hate mail 
> myself I know how nasty this community can be when something gets them 
> upset over something. So I wouldn't be surprised if there are others 
> who think as you do that are hoping Leasey fails, that Brian goes 
> financially bankrupt,  or someone pirates his software into oblivion.
> None of which are a bit realistic, but I guess if it helps quell 
> someone's rage to dream about such things they will.
>
>
>
> On 7/28/15, dark  wrote:
>> Well tom, good business practice and moron hood are not mutually 
>> exclusive concepts :D.
>>
>> Ultimately Q9 would do him more good as a stand alone program than 
>> just as a
>>
>> little extra addon for his Leasy thing, sinse I suspect there are far 
>> more potential Nvda, window eyes and supernova users who would buy Q9 
>> as a game than there are Jaws users who would decide to buy Leasy 
>> based on the fact it
>>
>> comes with Q9.
>>
>> no, this chap isn't part of the community, but frankly if you just go 
>> acquiring random software and selling without a knolidge of your 
>> customer base or what good that software might do and think you can 
>> stuff it in a box
>>
>> as a job lot and sell to your usual customers, you are a Moron indeed!
>>
>> I hope he does see sense, or goes out of business, or that people 
>> pirate the
>>
>> game sinse I hate to see audiogames lost to posterity, especially for 
>> such a
>>
>> ridiculous reason as one man's short sighted greed.
>>
>> Of course as I said, none of this is Philip's fault, I just wish he'd 
>> sold the rights to someone less scummy, or more intelligent.
>> Beware the grue!
>>
>> Dark.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Brandon Keith Biggs]

Hello,
Yes it would have been way more advantageous to announce that the sales 
were going to end in 2 weeks so get your version of q9 before it sells 
out, but he didn't do that.

If you wish to play q9, find someone and play it on their computer.
I have never played it and it is only because of this topic that I have 
ever wanted to play it.

thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs 
On 7/27/2015 8:35 PM, Josh K wrote:
I have not used jaws in over 5 years and don't plan on going back to 
it. i use NVDA and window eyes.


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On 7/27/2015 2:31 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:

Hi Philip,

I've read the AudioGames topic you linked to, and whilst I totally
understand your decision to transfer ownership as a means of being
paid for the time you've put into developing Q9, I can't help echoing
the thoughts of many in that discussion that JAWS being a requirement
for Q9 is a shame. A decade ago when JAWS was the biggest fish in the
pond, this would've made more sense, but nowadays...?

Is there no scope to offer an alternative sales channel through
Blastbay for people who don't use JAWS?

Scott

On 7/24/15, Philip Bennefall  wrote:

Hi again,

Just wanted to follow up briefly and point those who have questions as
to why I transferred the rights of Q9, to the audiogames.net topic 
under

general game discussion. Hopefully I have managed to answer all the
questions there.

http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=225202#p225202

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall
On 7/23/2015 4:17 PM, Philip Bennefall wrote:

Hi all,

I just wanted to post a quick announcement to let you all know that Q9
is moving. From today, the Q9 action game will no longer be sold from
Blastbay Studios but will instead be available as part of the Leasey
package (www.leaseycentral.com). Of course, all existing users can
continue to play the game normally; all issued keys remain valid and
can be reused if you format your PC or buy a new one.

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall

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Re: [Audyssey] the wastes

[Brandon Keith Biggs]

Hello,
this is only on the prompt and the prompt pops up. So just click on the 
waists.exe and it will pop up. First, before anything press

3, 5
then press 3, 4, 5
That will turn down the music I believe.
To read the prompt with NVDA use object review. I use a laptop, so it is 
capslock up and down arrow.

thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs 
On 7/27/2015 8:36 PM, Dakotah Rickard wrote:

Hi.
First of all, should I be running this from the command prompt?
Second, I play it with NVDA, and the window doesn't let me look inside to 
scroll about and review text. Any advice?

Signed:
Dakotah Rickard


On Jul 18, 2015, at 19:18, john  wrote:

Dark:
I didn't see this anywhere, but you seem to know more about development than
me.
Do you know if mining's going to be fixed (right now it infinitely scrolls)?
The only way I could find to make it stop was to kill the program with ctrl
c, which really isn't what I want to do.


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the wastes

Hi Jeremy.

The town scrolling thing is a known problem and will e fixed, for now any
method of emulating mouse wheel movement should do, in supernova I just hit
w a few times,heck you might even be able to just use your mouse wheel
anyway.

The towns will be fixed, but right now Huw the developer is working on the
inventory and lots of fun extra objects like weapons and armour carried by
your enemies, trading resources, loot, food, plants books to read and lots
of other good stuff.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "Jeremy Brown" 
To: "gamers" 
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the wastes



I have to second Dark's comments about the game.  I had no problems
downloading the zip file, and it is a fun game.  I wish the town
information didn't scroll so much, in larger towns, I was reduced to
guessing about where shops were as most of the buildings I could see
were shacks:)

Still, it's a lot of fun, and I was glad to see a game like this still
being developed and supported.

Take care,

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Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: Virtual Braille 'n Speak emulator with screen readers and SAPI 5

[mattias]

But wich ftp?

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Ämne: [Audyssey] Fwd: Virtual Braille 'n Speak emulator with screen readers
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Subject:Virtual Braille 'n Speak emulator with screen readers and
SAPI 5
Date:   Mon, 27 Jul 2015 01:34:40 +0200
From:   'Sukil Etxenike' via Talking DOSbox 

Reply-To:   Sukil Etxenike 
To: talking-dos...@googlegroups.com



Hello,
After working for several days, I finally got the Virtual Bns Emulator
working with accessible_output2 (that is, most Windows screen readers and
SAPI5). I've uploaded it to the ftp with name "vbns-ao2.7z". Its source
code, in case anyone is interested, is available at
http://github.com/sukiletxe/vbns-ao2 . I am also working on minor
adjustments to the eSpeak version (probably nothing of interest to regular
users, I'm mostly correcting mistakes in the script to build the
executable). The source code of this version is available at
http://github.com/sukiletxe/vbns-espeak .

You'll notice the uploaded file is bigger and contains more than just the
executable. This was done to prevent possible problems, and because most
Python projects I've seen package them like this. So, extract it to an empty
folder, to prevent cluttering the talking-dosbox folder.

By the way, for those Spanish users like me who would like to use the Habla
screen reader: I'm affraid I have nothing new at the momment, the problem
discussed a while ago persists. The emulator (in both versions) doesn't
speak most of Habla's messages. Any help is appreciated, either here or via
pull requests.

Regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

[Brandon Keith Biggs]

Hello,
It seems as if Licy is just a ton of Jaws scripts combined in a massive 
package.
I've never used it, but from looking at the description, and reviews, 
that is what it sounds like.

Why would they want an audio game sold with it? XD
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs 
On 7/24/2015 3:29 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

I believe that because Q9 was a simple arcade game, it could be a very well 
intro to playing audio games, as Licy seems to mostly be for newer computer 
users.


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On Jul 23, 2015, at 2:00 PM, john  wrote:

Interesting change. Would you be willing to elaborate a bit on why you took
this rout?

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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

Hi all,

I just wanted to post a quick announcement to let you all know that Q9
is moving. From today, the Q9 action game will no longer be sold from
Blastbay Studios but will instead be available as part of the Leasey
package (www.leaseycentral.com). Of course, all existing users can
continue to play the game normally; all issued keys remain valid and can
be reused if you format your PC or buy a new one.

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall

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[Audyssey] my latest jim's baseball game championship

[Josh K]

Here is my latest 6 or so baseball games pasted below.

 Championship Baseball, version 5, By Jim Kitchen.

 this is game #1 of the best of 7   the pirates verses the Rays.

 in the pirates half of the  first inning,  the pirates scored, 1 run  
on, 3 hits,  there was  1 double  there was 1 strike out   and two 
runners were left on base.


 in the Rays half of the  first inning,  the Rays scored,  No runs on, 
No hits,   there were 2 strike outs   and there were no runners left on 
base.


 in the pirates half of the  second inning,  the pirates scored,  No 
runs  on, 1 hit,  there was  1 double  there was 1 strike out   and 
there was 1 runner left on base.


 in the Rays half of the  second inning,  the Rays scored,  No runs on, 
1 hit,   there were 2 strike outs 1 runner was caught stealing and there 
were no runners left on base.


 in the pirates half of the  third inning,  the pirates scored, 2 runs  
on, 2 hits,  there was  1 triple  there was 1 hit batter, there was A 
double play  and there were no runners left on base.


 in the Rays half of the  third inning,  the Rays scored,  No runs on, 
2 hits,   there was 1 strike out   and there was 1 runner left on base.


 in the pirates half of the  fourth inning,  the pirates scored,  No 
runs  on, 1 hit,there was A double play  and there were no runners 
left on base.


 in the Rays half of the  fourth inning,  the Rays scored,  No runs on, 
No hits,   there were 3 strike outs   and there were no runners left on 
base.


 in the pirates half of the  fifth inning,  the pirates scored,  No 
runs  on, 1 hit,and there was 1 runner left on base.


 in the Rays half of the  fifth inning,  the Rays scored,  No runs on, 
No hits,   there was 1 strike out   and there were no runners left on base.


 in the pirates half of the  sixth inning,  the pirates scored,  No 
runs  on, 1 hit,there was A double play  and there were no runners 
left on base.


 in the Rays half of the  sixth inning,  the Rays scored, 1 run  on, 2 
hits,  there was  1 double  there were 2 strike outs   and there was 1 
runner left on base.


 in the pirates half of the  seventh inning,  the pirates scored, No 
runs  on, 1 hit,  there was  1 triple   and there was 1 runner left on 
base.


 in the  Rays half of the  seventh inning,  the  Rays scored,  No runs  
on, 1 hit,   there were 3 strike outs   and there was 1 runner left on 
base.


 in the  pirates half of the  eighth inning,  the  pirates scored, No 
runs  on, 2 hits,there was A double play  and there was 1 runner 
left on base.


 in the  Rays half of the  eighth inning,  the  Rays scored,  No runs  
on, No hits,   there was 1 strike out   and there were no runners left 
on base.


 in the  pirates half of the  ninth inning,  the  pirates scored, 2 
runs  on, 4 hits,  there was  1 triple  there was 1 strike out there was 
A double play  and there was 1 runner left on base.


 in the  Rays half of the  ninth inning,  the  Rays scored,  No runs  
on, 1 hit,   there was 1 strike out   and there was 1 runner left on base.


 the  pirates have won the game by the score of 5 to 1.

 The  pirates scored  5 runs, on  16 hits, and they left 7runners on base.

 The  Rays scored 1run, on  7hits, and they left 4runners on base.

 this is game #2  the pirates verses the Rays.
 the pirates lead the series  1 game to  0.

 in the pirates half of the  first inning,  the pirates scored,  No 
runs  on, 1 hit,there was A double play  and there were no runners 
left on base.


 in the Rays half of the  first inning,  the Rays scored,  No runs on, 
2 hits,  there was  1 double   there was A double play  and there was 1 
runner left on base.


 in the pirates half of the  second inning,  the pirates scored, 1 run  
on, 2 hits,  there was  1 home run!   and there was 1 runner left on base.


 in the Rays half of the  second inning,  the Rays scored,  No runs on, 
1 hit,there was A double play  and there were no runners left on base.


 in the pirates half of the  third inning,  the pirates scored,  No 
runs  on, No hits,  there was 1 hit batter,  there were 3 strike outs   
and there was 1 runner left on base.


 in the Rays half of the  third inning,  the Rays scored, 2 runs on, 3 
hits,  there was  1 triple 1 runner was caught stealing   and there were 
no runners left on base.


 in the pirates half of the  fourth inning,  the pirates scored,  No 
runs  on, No hits,   there were 2 strike outs   and there were no 
runners left on base.


 in the Rays half of the  fourth inning,  the Rays scored, 1 run on, 3 
hits,  there was  1 double 1 runner was caught stealing   and there was 
1 runner left on base.


 in the pirates half of the  fifth inning,  the pirates scored,  No 
runs  on, 1 hit,  there was  1 double   and there was 1 runner left on 
base.


 in the Rays half of the  fifth inning,  the Rays scored, 2 runs on, 3 
hits,  there was  1 triple  1 double  there were 2 strike outs   and 
there was 1 runner left on base.


 

Re: [Audyssey] death match project alfa again

[mattias]

Ah yu are correct

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Skickat: den 23 juli 2015 15:40
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Ämne: Re: [Audyssey] death match project alfa again

Hi Mattias.

Death match project alpha is the side scroller and was produced first.
Death match a new beginning in the online game and is not a side scroller,
rather it's a third person game where you can move in four directions.
Nicol asked about project alpha, not new beginning, though if you check on
audiogames.net you'll see there is a separate entry for death match a new
beginning.

Hope this makes sense.

Dark.
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From: "mattias" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] death match project alfa again


> but the game are not a side scroller
> not the online one
> On 2015-07-23 10:07, dark wrote:
>> Well nicol, I thought that problem was fixed, but if that way doesn't 
>> work you can use the dropdown box on the front page, just select 
>> "deathmatch project alpha" tab to submit and hit enter.
>> If that doesn't work, you can use the "gamelist" link on the front page 
>> to display all the games in the audiogames.net database and find 
>> deathmatch project alpha, and that should work irrispective of anything 
>> else.
>>
>> Hth.
>>
>> Dark.
>> - Original Message - From: "nicol" 
>> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] death match project alfa again
>>
>>
>>> Hi Dark
>>> I'm unable to find the description of this game on audiogames.net.
>>> When clicking on the link you gave for the db entry I get a page saying:
>>> No description file available!
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
>>> Sent: 11 July 2015 12:49 PM
>>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] death match project alfa again
>>>
>>> Hi Rom.
>>>
>>> It's the scifi side scroller from Reality associates, a new developer, 
>>> Find
>>> more info on:
>>> http://audiogames.net/db.php?action=view&id=Deathmatch: project alpha
>>>
>>> Not a bad game, lots of exploring and a nice world and atmosphere
>>> particularly considdering it's free though combat is rather tricky.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Dark.
>>> There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is 
>>> vast
>>> and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than 
>>> even
>>> the archmaesters of the citadel can dream.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Ron Schamerhorn" 
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 11:43 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] death match project alfa again
>>>
>>>
 Hi Isham

   Not trying to sound dumb but I have absolutely no idea what game you
 are talking about.  Never even heard of it.  Further details would be
 excellent!

 Ron


 On 7/11/2015 3:36 AM, ishan dhami wrote:
> Hi I started a topic on this list which is death match project alfa.
> I get no answer at that time.
> so finally after level 1 I found an alien and my gun's energy is 6, I
> am not able to reload it.
> can somebody know how to reload the plazma rifal?
> Thanks
> Ishan
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Stephen]

No! it can't be!
At 06:34 AM 8/8/2015, you wrote:

This is very sad news.  He will be deeply missed.


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 3:27 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at Tri Point

Medical Center in Concord.
He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen Sr. and
Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally known. He
worked full time on his own website where he designed and programmed
computer
games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary person who
used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing similar hardships. He
could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of humor,
random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice Chairman for the
Geauga
Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny Wagstaff; his
sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and numerous nieces, nephews
and cousins.
He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing and his
beloved companion Marcie Brown.
A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later date.
In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the Cleveland Sight

Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral Home &
Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.
Offer condolences at
www.brunners.com


- Original Message -
From: "Greg Wocher" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


> Hello,
> I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
>
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/news-herald/obituary.aspx?n=james-h-kitchen
&pid=175455371&fhid=5093


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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Katie Epperson]

I have some emails I would be willing to share



> On Aug 7, 2015, at 7:30 PM, dark  wrote:
> 
> Yee Gods I can say I'm shocked.
> 
> Jim's games were also some of the first I played myself, I still recall 
> having great fun with game of life playing with two friends who visited 
> unexpectedly with me yelling instructions through my shower door and them 
> laughing at sapi.
> 
> Jim will indeed be sorely missed, for his enthusiasm, his humour, and yes, 
> his games as well. Audiogames.net will have a tribute in the news as soon as 
> I can write something even vaguely adequate.
> 
> I hope his family and those who knew him personally are coping at this time, 
> and I can say the legacy he left in the form of his games and work and humour 
> will not soon be forgotten.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Dark.
> - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 8:27 PM
> Subject: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary
> 
> 
>> James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at Tri Point 
>> Medical Center in Concord.
>> He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen Sr. and 
>> Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
>> Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally known. He 
>> worked full time on his own website where he designed and programmed computer
>> games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary person who 
>> used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing similar hardships. He
>> could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of humor, 
>> random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice Chairman for the 
>> Geauga
>> Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
>> Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny Wagstaff; his 
>> sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and numerous nieces, nephews
>> and cousins.
>> He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing and his 
>> beloved companion Marcie Brown.
>> A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later date.
>> In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the Cleveland Sight 
>> Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
>> Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral Home & 
>> Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.
>> Offer condolences at
>> www.brunners.com
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Greg Wocher" 
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
>>> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/news-herald/obituary.aspx?n=james-h-kitchen&pid=175455371&fhid=5093
>> 
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[dark]

Yee Gods I can say I'm shocked.

Jim's games were also some of the first I played myself, I still recall 
having great fun with game of life playing with two friends who visited 
unexpectedly with me yelling instructions through my shower door and them 
laughing at sapi.


Jim will indeed be sorely missed, for his enthusiasm, his humour, and yes, 
his games as well. Audiogames.net will have a tribute in the news as soon as 
I can write something even vaguely adequate.


I hope his family and those who knew him personally are coping at this time, 
and I can say the legacy he left in the form of his games and work and 
humour will not soon be forgotten.


All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Vlasak" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 8:27 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary


James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at Tri 
Point Medical Center in Concord.
He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen Sr. 
and Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally known. 
He worked full time on his own website where he designed and programmed 
computer
games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary person 
who used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing similar 
hardships. He
could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of humor, 
random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice Chairman for 
the Geauga

Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny Wagstaff; 
his sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and numerous nieces, 
nephews

and cousins.
He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing and his 
beloved companion Marcie Brown.

A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later date.
In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the Cleveland 
Sight Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral Home & 
Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.

Offer condolences at
www.brunners.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Wocher" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away



Hello,
I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/news-herald/obituary.aspx?n=james-h-kitchen&pid=175455371&fhid=5093



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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[Thomas Ward]

Hello Josh,

Thanks for letting us all know. It is truly some sad news to be sure.

Cheers!


On 8/7/15, Josh K  wrote:
> hi pass this on.
> just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd
> 2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you can
> look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. Cindy
> is trying to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's
> email is
> psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and stuff.
> I would like to get the source for all his games.
> thanks
>
> Josh
>
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[Appleman]

Hi Chris and Josh,
  I would also like to pass on my condolences. This has certainly come as a 
shock. I also enjoyed Jim’s games when I owned my former Windows machine. 
Puppy1, Simon, Battleship, Triple J Shooter and Spanker were my favourites.

Sent from my iMac



> On 8 Aug 2015, at 4:45 am, Christopher Hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My thoughts 
> go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I played them in 
> the past. May he rest in peace.
>> On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:
>> 
>> hi pass this on.
>> just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd 2015. 
>> Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you can look up 
>> the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. Cindy is trying 
>> to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's email is
>> psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and stuff. I 
>> would like to get the source for all his games.
>> thanks
>> 
>> Josh
>> 
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[Bryan Peterson]

No no, you misconstrued my message. I was agreeing with you about no need to 
apologize for something.




Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 4:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

Reread my first message.  I will send prayers for the family, and they do
have my support.  There is no need for me giving an expression of remorse or
regret for having said or done something that harmed another.  That would be
an apology.

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From: "Bryan Peterson" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


Sympathies would have been a more appropriate word I think. And at only 58 
to boot, not very oldat all. He was probably the first audio game 
developer I ever spoke to directly for any length of time.




Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:20 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

Because I have done nothing to apologize for having done.

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From: "Josh K" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


Why would you say your appologies don't go out to them when this is a sad 
time in their lives?


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 3:13 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
My apologies don't go out to them, but my prayers and support do.  He 
was a huge contributor to the blind computer gaming community, and his 
hobby and generosity game us, and will continue to give us, many hours 
of fun.


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- Original Message - From: "Josh K" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


yes my appologies go out to Jim's family friends and everyone who 
enjoyed and grew up with his games. We will miss you Jim!


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 2:45 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My 
thoughts go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I 
played them in the past. May he rest in peace.

On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:

hi pass this on.
just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 
2nd 2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so 
you can look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info 
there. Cindy is trying to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his 
website. Cindy's email is
psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and 
stuff. I would like to get the source for all his games.

thanks

Josh

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[Charles Rivard]

Reread my first message.  I will send prayers for the family, and they do 
have my support.  There is no need for me giving an expression of remorse or 
regret for having said or done something that harmed another.  That would be 
an apology.


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From: "Bryan Peterson" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


Sympathies would have been a more appropriate word I think. And at only 58 
to boot, not very oldat all. He was probably the first audio game 
developer I ever spoke to directly for any length of time.




Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:20 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

Because I have done nothing to apologize for having done.

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you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: "Josh K" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


Why would you say your appologies don't go out to them when this is a sad 
time in their lives?


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 3:13 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
My apologies don't go out to them, but my prayers and support do.  He 
was a huge contributor to the blind computer gaming community, and his 
hobby and generosity game us, and will continue to give us, many hours 
of fun.


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- Original Message - From: "Josh K" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


yes my appologies go out to Jim's family friends and everyone who 
enjoyed and grew up with his games. We will miss you Jim!


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 2:45 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My 
thoughts go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I 
played them in the past. May he rest in peace.

On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:

hi pass this on.
just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 
2nd 2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so 
you can look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info 
there. Cindy is trying to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his 
website. Cindy's email is
psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and 
stuff. I would like to get the source for all his games.

thanks

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[BlindLee55]

my prayers and thoughts goes out to the family of jim  kitchen.
 
your friend  lee  

 
In a message dated 8/7/2015 3:14:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wee1s...@fidnet.com writes:

My  apologies don't go out to them, but my prayers and support do.  He was 
a  
huge contributor to the blind computer gaming community, and his hobby and  
generosity game us, and will continue to give us, many hours of  fun.

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From: "Josh K" 
To: "Gamers  Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015  1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


> yes  my appologies go out to Jim's family friends and everyone who 
enjoyed 
>  and grew up with his games. We will miss you Jim!
>
> follow me on  twitter @joshknnd1982
>
> On 8/7/2015 2:45 PM, christopher  hallsworth wrote:
>> May I pass on my sincere apologies for the  passing of Mr Kitchen. My 
>> thoughts go out to his family and  friends. I enjoyed his games when I 
>> played them in the past. May  he rest in peace.
>>> On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K   wrote:
>>>
>>> hi pass  this on.
>>> just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away  Sunday August 2nd 
>>> 2015. Brunner funeral home his name is  James H Kitchen Junior so you 
can 
>>> look up the obituary. If  anyone wants to leave contact info there. 
Cindy 
>>> is trying to  find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's 
>>> email  is
>>> psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines  computers and 
stuff. 
>>> I would like to get the source for all  his games.
>>> thanks
>>>
>>>  Josh
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> follow me on twitter  @joshknnd1982
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[Katie Epperson]

We never actually got to talk but we did email back-and-forth several times



> On Aug 7, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Josh K  wrote:
> 
> yes my appologies go out to Jim's family friends and everyone who enjoyed and 
> grew up with his games. We will miss you Jim!
> 
> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
> 
>> On 8/7/2015 2:45 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
>> May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My 
>> thoughts go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I played 
>> them in the past. May he rest in peace.
>>> On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi pass this on.
>>> just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd 
>>> 2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you can 
>>> look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. Cindy is 
>>> trying to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's email is
>>> psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and stuff. I 
>>> would like to get the source for all his games.
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> Josh
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[Bryan Peterson]

Sympathies would have been a more appropriate word I think. And at only 58 
to boot, not very oldat all. He was probably the first audio game developer 
I ever spoke to directly for any length of time.




Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:20 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

Because I have done nothing to apologize for having done.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Josh K" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


Why would you say your appologies don't go out to them when this is a sad 
time in their lives?


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 3:13 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
My apologies don't go out to them, but my prayers and support do.  He was 
a huge contributor to the blind computer gaming community, and his hobby 
and generosity game us, and will continue to give us, many hours of fun.


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- Original Message - From: "Josh K" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


yes my appologies go out to Jim's family friends and everyone who 
enjoyed and grew up with his games. We will miss you Jim!


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 2:45 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My 
thoughts go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I 
played them in the past. May he rest in peace.

On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:

hi pass this on.
just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd 
2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you 
can look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. 
Cindy is trying to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. 
Cindy's email is
psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and 
stuff. I would like to get the source for all his games.

thanks

Josh

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[Jeremy Kaldobsky]

Please keep in mind that different phrases are taken differently in different 
parts of the world.  I am 100% positive Charles meant only positive things by 
what he said, so we should focus on that more than our own interpretation of 
the sentence.It is similar to how some people will wish to celebrate when 
someone dies, while others want to mourn.  It is more important to focus on the 
intent, rather than on the words.


> Why would you say your appologies don't go out to them when this is a sad 
> time in their lives?
>
> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
>
> On 8/7/2015 3:13 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
>> My apologies don't go out to them, but my prayers and support do.  He was 
>> a huge contributor to the blind computer gaming community, and his hobby 
>> and generosity game us, and will continue to give us, many hours of fun.

  
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[Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away:

[Kenny]

Thats sad that we lost some one that loved creating computer games that 
are accessible for the blind, but I can try to help out with the NFL 
football game if I can get a hold of the source code. I wonder how I can 
get a hold of the source code?

Kenny Peyatt

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Christina]

This is very sad news.  He will be deeply missed.


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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 3:27 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at Tri Point

Medical Center in Concord.
He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen Sr. and 
Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally known. He 
worked full time on his own website where he designed and programmed 
computer
games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary person who 
used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing similar hardships. He
could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of humor, 
random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice Chairman for the 
Geauga
Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny Wagstaff; his 
sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and numerous nieces, nephews
and cousins.
He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing and his 
beloved companion Marcie Brown.
A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later date.
In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the Cleveland Sight

Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral Home & 
Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.
Offer condolences at
www.brunners.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Wocher" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


> Hello,
> I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
>
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/news-herald/obituary.aspx?n=james-h-kitchen
&pid=175455371&fhid=5093


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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[Charles Rivard]

Because I have done nothing to apologize for having done.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Josh K" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


Why would you say your appologies don't go out to them when this is a sad 
time in their lives?


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 3:13 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
My apologies don't go out to them, but my prayers and support do.  He was 
a huge contributor to the blind computer gaming community, and his hobby 
and generosity game us, and will continue to give us, many hours of fun.


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- Original Message - From: "Josh K" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


yes my appologies go out to Jim's family friends and everyone who 
enjoyed and grew up with his games. We will miss you Jim!


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 2:45 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My 
thoughts go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I 
played them in the past. May he rest in peace.

On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:

hi pass this on.
just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd 
2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you 
can look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. 
Cindy is trying to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. 
Cindy's email is
psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and 
stuff. I would like to get the source for all his games.

thanks

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[christopher hallsworth]

None of us did to be honest. We've lost so many great people this year, him 
being the latest.
> On 7 Aug 2015, at 21:16, Danielle Ledet  wrote:
> 
> Wow this is NOT what I wished to see in my inbox and right up at the
> top. I didn't know Jim was sick. thanks for the info.
> 
> On 8/7/15, Phil Vlasak  wrote:
>> Hi Josh,
>> Unfortunately Jim Kitchen wrote most of his Windows games in Visual Basic 6,
>> 
>> and I am only familiar with GW basic for DOS and the GMA game engine
>> formats.
>> I think Jeremy Kaldobsky, Aprone uses VB 6.
>> Phil
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Josh K" 
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 3:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary
>> 
>> 
>>> hey phil are you gunna take over the development of sports games or any
>>> unfinnished games jim may have had in mind?
>>> 
>>> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
>>> 
>>> On 8/7/2015 3:27 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote:
 James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at Tri
 Point Medical Center in Concord.
 He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen Sr.
 and Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
 Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally known.
 
 He worked full time on his own website where he designed and programmed
 computer
 games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary person
 who used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing similar
 hardships. He
 could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of humor,
 random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice Chairman for
 the Geauga
 Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
 Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny Wagstaff;
 his sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and numerous nieces,
 nephews
 and cousins.
 He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing and
 his beloved companion Marcie Brown.
 A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later date.
 In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the Cleveland
 Sight Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
 Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral Home &
 
 Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.
 Offer condolences at
 www.brunners.com
 
 
 - Original Message - From: "Greg Wocher" 
 To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
 Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away
 
 
> Hello,
> I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/news-herald/obituary.aspx?n=james-h-kitchen&pid=175455371&fhid=5093
 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Danielle Ledet]

What happens to his website? I do hope he would have wanted it to stay up.

On 8/7/15, Danielle Ledet  wrote:
> Wow this is NOT what I wished to see in my inbox and right up at the
> top. I didn't know Jim was sick. thanks for the info.
>
> On 8/7/15, Phil Vlasak  wrote:
>> Hi Josh,
>> Unfortunately Jim Kitchen wrote most of his Windows games in Visual Basic
>> 6,
>>
>> and I am only familiar with GW basic for DOS and the GMA game engine
>> formats.
>> I think Jeremy Kaldobsky, Aprone uses VB 6.
>>  Phil
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Josh K" 
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 3:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary
>>
>>
>>> hey phil are you gunna take over the development of sports games or any
>>> unfinnished games jim may have had in mind?
>>>
>>> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
>>>
>>> On 8/7/2015 3:27 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote:
 James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at Tri
 Point Medical Center in Concord.
 He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen Sr.
 and Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
 Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally
 known.

 He worked full time on his own website where he designed and programmed
 computer
 games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary person
 who used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing similar
 hardships. He
 could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of humor,
 random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice Chairman for
 the Geauga
 Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
 Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny Wagstaff;
 his sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and numerous nieces,
 nephews
 and cousins.
 He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing and
 his beloved companion Marcie Brown.
 A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later
 date.
 In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the Cleveland
 Sight Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
 Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral Home
 &

 Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.
 Offer condolences at
 www.brunners.com


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 To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
 Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


> Hello,
> I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Danielle Ledet]

Wow this is NOT what I wished to see in my inbox and right up at the
top. I didn't know Jim was sick. thanks for the info.

On 8/7/15, Phil Vlasak  wrote:
> Hi Josh,
> Unfortunately Jim Kitchen wrote most of his Windows games in Visual Basic 6,
>
> and I am only familiar with GW basic for DOS and the GMA game engine
> formats.
> I think Jeremy Kaldobsky, Aprone uses VB 6.
>  Phil
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh K" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 3:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary
>
>
>> hey phil are you gunna take over the development of sports games or any
>> unfinnished games jim may have had in mind?
>>
>> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
>>
>> On 8/7/2015 3:27 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote:
>>> James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at Tri
>>> Point Medical Center in Concord.
>>> He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen Sr.
>>> and Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
>>> Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally known.
>>>
>>> He worked full time on his own website where he designed and programmed
>>> computer
>>> games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary person
>>> who used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing similar
>>> hardships. He
>>> could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of humor,
>>> random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice Chairman for
>>> the Geauga
>>> Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
>>> Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny Wagstaff;
>>> his sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and numerous nieces,
>>> nephews
>>> and cousins.
>>> He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing and
>>> his beloved companion Marcie Brown.
>>> A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later date.
>>> In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the Cleveland
>>> Sight Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
>>> Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral Home &
>>>
>>> Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.
>>> Offer condolences at
>>> www.brunners.com
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Greg Wocher" 
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>>> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away
>>>
>>>
 Hello,
 I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
 http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/news-herald/obituary.aspx?n=james-h-kitchen&pid=175455371&fhid=5093
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Jeremy Kaldobsky]

Yes I have many years of VB6 programming under my belt.  Jim and I were cut 
from the same cloth, or so the saying goes, haha.- Aprone
 
   Original message:
Hi Josh,
Unfortunately Jim Kitchen wrote most of his Windows games in Visual Basic 6, 
and I am only familiar with GW basic for DOS and the GMA game engine 
formats.
I think Jeremy Kaldobsky, Aprone uses VB 6.
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

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Hi Josh,
Unfortunately Jim Kitchen wrote most of his Windows games in Visual Basic 6, 
and I am only familiar with GW basic for DOS and the GMA game engine 
formats.

I think Jeremy Kaldobsky, Aprone uses VB 6.
Phil
- Original Message - 
From: "Josh K" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary


hey phil are you gunna take over the development of sports games or any 
unfinnished games jim may have had in mind?


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 3:27 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote:
James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at Tri 
Point Medical Center in Concord.
He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen Sr. 
and Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally known. 
He worked full time on his own website where he designed and programmed 
computer
games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary person 
who used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing similar 
hardships. He
could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of humor, 
random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice Chairman for 
the Geauga

Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny Wagstaff; 
his sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and numerous nieces, 
nephews

and cousins.
He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing and 
his beloved companion Marcie Brown.

A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later date.
In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the Cleveland 
Sight Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral Home & 
Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.

Offer condolences at
www.brunners.com


- Original Message - From: "Greg Wocher" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away



Hello,
I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[joseph weakland]

I know he'll be missed:(

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:27 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at Tri Point
Medical Center in Concord.
He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen Sr. and
Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally known. He
worked full time on his own website where he designed and programmed
computer games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary
person who used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing similar
hardships. He could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense
of humor, random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice
Chairman for the Geauga Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of
Commissioners for many years.
Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny Wagstaff; his
sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and numerous nieces, nephews
and cousins.
He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing and his
beloved companion Marcie Brown.
A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later date.
In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the Cleveland Sight
Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral Home &
Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.
Offer condolences at
www.brunners.com


- Original Message -
From: "Greg Wocher" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


> Hello,
> I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
>
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/news-herald/obituary.aspx?n=james-h-kitchen
&pid=175455371&fhid=5093


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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[christopher hallsworth]

I wonder the same.
> On 7 Aug 2015, at 20:48, Josh K  wrote:
> 
> Why would you say your appologies don't go out to them when this is a sad 
> time in their lives?
> 
> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
> 
> On 8/7/2015 3:13 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
>> My apologies don't go out to them, but my prayers and support do.  He was a 
>> huge contributor to the blind computer gaming community, and his hobby and 
>> generosity game us, and will continue to give us, many hours of fun.
>> 
>> ---
>> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, 
>> you! really! are! finished!
>> - Original Message - From: "Josh K" 
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 1:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away
>> 
>> 
>>> yes my appologies go out to Jim's family friends and everyone who enjoyed 
>>> and grew up with his games. We will miss you Jim!
>>> 
>>> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
>>> 
>>> On 8/7/2015 2:45 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
 May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My 
 thoughts go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I 
 played them in the past. May he rest in peace.
> On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:
> 
> hi pass this on.
> just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd 
> 2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you can 
> look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. Cindy 
> is trying to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's 
> email is
> psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and stuff. I 
> would like to get the source for all his games.
> thanks
> 
> Josh
> 
> -- 
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> 
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Josh K]

hey phil are you gunna take over the development of sports games or any 
unfinnished games jim may have had in mind?


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On 8/7/2015 3:27 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote:
James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at Tri 
Point Medical Center in Concord.
He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen 
Sr. and Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally 
known. He worked full time on his own website where he designed and 
programmed computer
games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary 
person who used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing 
similar hardships. He
could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of 
humor, random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice 
Chairman for the Geauga

Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny 
Wagstaff; his sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and 
numerous nieces, nephews

and cousins.
He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing and 
his beloved companion Marcie Brown.

A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later date.
In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the Cleveland 
Sight Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral Home 
& Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.

Offer condolences at
www.brunners.com


- Original Message - From: "Greg Wocher" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away



Hello,
I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[Josh K]

Why would you say your appologies don't go out to them when this is a 
sad time in their lives?


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 3:13 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
My apologies don't go out to them, but my prayers and support do.  He 
was a huge contributor to the blind computer gaming community, and his 
hobby and generosity game us, and will continue to give us, many hours 
of fun.


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- Original Message - From: "Josh K" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


yes my appologies go out to Jim's family friends and everyone who 
enjoyed and grew up with his games. We will miss you Jim!


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 2:45 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My 
thoughts go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when 
I played them in the past. May he rest in peace.

On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:

hi pass this on.
just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 
2nd 2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior 
so you can look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact 
info there. Cindy is trying to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains 
his website. Cindy's email is
psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and 
stuff. I would like to get the source for all his games.

thanks

Josh

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[Audyssey] jim kitchen

[Jeremy Kaldobsky]

Unfortunately I hit send before I meant to, so my last message was cut short 
(and contained unwanted stuff at the end).

I am very sorry to hear about Jim's passing.  I hope his family have many 
people around to help support them during this time of loss.

I am not sure who Cindy is in relation to Jim, but I may be able to help her 
with his equipment and code.  I am extremely familiar with the programming 
language Jim used to write his games, and I seem to be located about 3 hours 
away from Cindy.  I would send this to Cindy myself, but because I do not know 
her it might be more appropriate for you to pass this along.
- Aprone(Jeremy Kaldobsky)
  
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen

[Jeremy Kaldobsky]

I live about 3 hours away from there.  I have no idea if I can be of any help, 
but if you're looking for people who are nearby, you can keep me in mind.
- Aprone

  From: Josh K 
 To: Gamers Discussion list  
 Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 2:46 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] jim kitchen
   
Cindy would like someone in the local area to look at the stuff. He 
lived in Chardon Ohio.

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[Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

[Phil Vlasak]

James H. Kitchen Jr., 58, of Chardon passed away August 2, 2015 at Tri Point 
Medical Center in Concord.
He was born in East Cleveland, the son of the late James H. Kitchen Sr. and 
Martha (Booth) Kitchen of Kirtland.
Jim was a self taught computer programmer who was internationally known. He 
worked full time on his own website where he designed and programmed 
computer
games that were accessible to the blind. He was an extraordinary person who 
used his own disabilities to bring joy to those facing similar hardships. He
could always bring a smile to your face with his quirky sense of humor, 
random jokes and comical taglines. Jim also served as Vice Chairman for the 
Geauga

Metropolitan Housing Authority Board of Commissioners for many years.
Surviving in addition to his mother are his step mother Ginny Wagstaff; his 
sister Cynthia Kitchen; brother Glenn Kitchen; and numerous nieces, nephews

and cousins.
He was preceded in death by his father; his sister Katherine Ewing and his 
beloved companion Marcie Brown.

A memorial service to celebrate Jims' life will be held at a later date.
In lieu of flowers memorial contributions may be made to the Cleveland Sight 
Center 1909 East 101st St. Cleveland, OH 44106.
Arrangements are entrusted to the Brunner Sanden Deitrick Funeral Home & 
Cremation Center 8466 Mentor Ave., Mentor, OH 44060.

Offer condolences at
www.brunners.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Wocher" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away



Hello,
I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/news-herald/obituary.aspx?n=james-h-kitchen&pid=175455371&fhid=5093



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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[Bryan Peterson]

He will be sorely missed.



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: Greg Wocher

Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 12:52 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

Hello,
I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/news-herald/obituary.aspx?n=james-h-kitchen&pid=175455371&fhid=5093
My condolences go out to his Family and Friends.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 8/7/15, Josh K  wrote:

yes my appologies go out to Jim's family friends and everyone who
enjoyed and grew up with his games. We will miss you Jim!

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 2:45 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My
thoughts go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I
played them in the past. May he rest in peace.

On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:

hi pass this on.
just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd
2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you can
look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. Cindy
is trying to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's
email is
psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and stuff. 
I

would like to get the source for all his games.
thanks

Josh

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

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My apologies don't go out to them, but my prayers and support do.  He was a 
huge contributor to the blind computer gaming community, and his hobby and 
generosity game us, and will continue to give us, many hours of fun.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Josh K" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away


yes my appologies go out to Jim's family friends and everyone who enjoyed 
and grew up with his games. We will miss you Jim!


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/7/2015 2:45 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My 
thoughts go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I 
played them in the past. May he rest in peace.

On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:

hi pass this on.
just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd 
2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you can 
look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. Cindy 
is trying to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's 
email is
psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and stuff. 
I would like to get the source for all his games.

thanks

Josh

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[john]

I'd also like to offer my condolences. I'm quite sorry to hear this news, 
and know we'll all miss Jim; his sense of humor, entertaining games and 
audyssey babble reports. Rest in peace Jim.

--
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Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 14:45
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May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My 
thoughts go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I played 
them in the past. May he rest in peace.
> On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:
>
> hi pass this on.
> just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd 
> 2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you can 
> look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. Cindy 
> is trying to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's email 
> is
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

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Hello,
I went out and found a link for his obituary. Here is the link:
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/news-herald/obituary.aspx?n=james-h-kitchen&pid=175455371&fhid=5093
My condolences go out to his Family and Friends.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 8/7/15, Josh K  wrote:
> yes my appologies go out to Jim's family friends and everyone who
> enjoyed and grew up with his games. We will miss you Jim!
>
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> On 8/7/2015 2:45 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
>> May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My
>> thoughts go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I
>> played them in the past. May he rest in peace.
>>> On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:
>>>
>>> hi pass this on.
>>> just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd
>>> 2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you can
>>> look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. Cindy
>>> is trying to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's
>>> email is
>>> psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and stuff. I
>>> would like to get the source for all his games.
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

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yes my appologies go out to Jim's family friends and everyone who 
enjoyed and grew up with his games. We will miss you Jim!


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On 8/7/2015 2:45 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My thoughts 
go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I played them in the 
past. May he rest in peace.

On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:

hi pass this on.
just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd 2015. 
Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you can look up the 
obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. Cindy is trying to find 
Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's email is
psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and stuff. I would 
like to get the source for all his games.
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[Josh K]

I found out he passed away because me and Jason Milyo called to talk to 
him about his nfl football game. We got his sister on the phone and she 
informed us. We will se him again in heaven.


Josh

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On 8/7/2015 2:45 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My thoughts 
go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I played them in the 
past. May he rest in peace.

On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:

hi pass this on.
just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd 2015. 
Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you can look up the 
obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. Cindy is trying to find 
Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's email is
psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and stuff. I would 
like to get the source for all his games.
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[Audyssey] jim kitchen

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Cindy would like someone in the local area to look at the stuff. He 
lived in Chardon Ohio.


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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

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May I pass on my sincere apologies for the passing of Mr Kitchen. My thoughts 
go out to his family and friends. I enjoyed his games when I played them in the 
past. May he rest in peace.
> On 7 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Josh K  wrote:
> 
> hi pass this on.
> just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd 2015. 
> Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you can look up 
> the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. Cindy is trying to 
> find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's email is
> psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and stuff. I 
> would like to get the source for all his games.
> thanks
> 
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[Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away

[Josh K]

hi pass this on.
just to let you all know Jim Kitchen has passed away Sunday August 2nd 
2015. Brunner funeral home his name is James H Kitchen Junior so you can 
look up the obituary. If anyone wants to leave contact info there. Cindy 
is trying to find Joshua Gryffith who maintains his website. Cindy's 
email is
psynthia...@aol.com ... Cindy has all his machines computers and stuff. 
I would like to get the source for all his games.

thanks

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[Audyssey] to jim kitchen

[Josh K]

hi jim,

In your windows nfl football game could you add more plays like squib 
kick, quarterback sneak, qb kneel down, time out, hurry up offense sort 
of like the carl nipla any night football game? also could you add the 
ability to rename the teams so me and jason can put in our favorite high 
school or college teams?


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Re: [Audyssey] drakor help mining?

[dark]

Hi Darren.

With mining, or indeed with any other  resource collection node it should be 
easy to tell what the state is.
Just click where it says something like "mining node level 1-2" to start 
mining.
This will change the text of the area there will be a "Stop mining" button, 
under which it should say "mining" and give your amount of xp to next level.


Just under where it says "mining" and gives a timer, it should say something 
like "50 percent of node remaining"

And next to this is the actual log that shows what you've mined.
So there should be no problem telling  when a mining node is exhausted or 
how long to go.


As to the inventory, I do admint this one is a little weerd.
there is a link that says "inventory options" when you hit this the text 
under it will give a message about changing slots between your equipment 
inventory and crafting inventory and instruct you to change by hitting the 
"inventory options" below.


That second "inventory options" is a hotspot, not a link, owever when you 
click it you should be able to find a page where there are several  dropdown 
combo boxes to change things like number of items displayed per page, and 
one for reallocating number of slots from trading to equipment.


I admit this one is a bit loopy.

Hth.

Sorry if this has ended up a bit to supernova specific, but I'm not sure how 
other screen readers handle some of the information and DArkor is a it 
unique in it's interface, though all the text should be there to read.


Hth.

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Darren Harris" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 11:04 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] drakor help mining?



Hi all,



I'm a bit confused with this whole mining business.



Using a screen reader, how can I tell if a node is ready to be mined, if
it's empty or what? Also I'm trying to find in the manual about how to 
swap
my inventories around. I can't seem to find the page so could someone 
please

enlighten me on that?

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[Audyssey] A query:

[Mohsin Ali]

Hello Guys!

I hope that you all are doing fine. Guys, is it possible to get the
database for hellmoo from somewhere? I want to play it offline,
please if anybody can help then,   I'll be very grateful. thanks in
advance.

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[Audyssey] drakor help mining?

[Darren Harris]

Hi all,

 

I'm a bit confused with this whole mining business. 

 

Using a screen reader, how can I tell if a node is ready to be mined, if
it's empty or what? Also I'm trying to find in the manual about how to swap
my inventories around. I can't seem to find the page so could someone please
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