Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
The main issue I could see in creating audio versions of side scrolling beat em ups like double dragon, golden axe, final fight or streets of rage is the view. Though the games are side scrollers, --- your characters have more than just movement forwards and backwards as they can also move up and down, sideways from the player's view, even though they do not actually change the direction they are facing other than forwards and backwards. To explain in more detail, imagine sitting and facing the top of a table, like a computer desk. Say your side scroller character was standing on that desk like a statue or an action figure. Now, imagine that the character is facing to the right, standing sideways on to you, so that their left foot is closest to the edge of the desk facing you. To simulate a side scroller, you would move the character to the right along the desk while stil side ways on to you. The character could move towards or away from you, ie, sideways along the desk, but, instead of turning and facing that way as in an fps game, must constantly face to the right, ie, forwards, or to the left, ie backwards, and thus all movements up and down would be side steps, same goes for the enemies. I'm not sure how you'd represent this in audio, sinse obviously your own character and an enemy could be on the same vertical plane, ie, standing side by side on the desk, but not able to attack each other, or facing a different way. Indeed, many of the tougher enemies in side scroller games like Mona and lisa from streets of rage, were able to change their vertical and horizontal position at once by attacking in diagonals. when you factor in hazards like pits or traps, which have not only a horizontal, but vertical positon, i'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU DO AT ALL. Perhaps you just throw all this to the winds and work on a full 3D beat em up such as are produced now, a game like mortal Combat Shaolin monks, the Lotr game or maximo ghosts to glory. You might also just create a standard mario style side scroller with only movement left and right or up and down in the air, but give your character and the enemies extensive amounts of moves to make the game a beat em up. Lion heart on the Amigar and indeed legend of cage followed this route, --- -and inumerable platform side scrollers have featured characters and enemies with complex Melee weaponry and attacks, Mega Man Zero and his trade mark Z saber, a light saber like weapon with many and complex techniques used in multiple games and game series, is a very famous example, though others such as Luke Skywalker in the Snes side scrolling starwars games, and even the nintendo mascot Kirby. Or perhaps you could use some factor like pitch to show the vertical position of objects and enemies relative to your character on the ground, the way games like troopanum or Q9 do for objects falling down through the air. Either way, it'd be an interesting proposition to explore, though one I think which would require a complex bit of game creating, - ad probably not something which could be done with a template. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi Al, Seeing as the games you mentioned are side-scrollers I would imagine that Phil's toolkit could create them, or at least something close to it.There are certain aspects you might have to script though. For example, In Double Dragon the way you typically got weapons is by taking it away from enemy thugs. A guy carrying a baseball bat might try and hit you with it, you, knock him out, take the bat and start wailing on someone else with it. I'm not sure if the toolkit will allow you to steel weapons or not, and if it does it probably needs to be scripted. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
Hi Philip, Yeah, I know. That's been my problem with Genesis 3D. I know what is easy for me, but what is easy for me isn't easy for the totally new game developer who doesn't know a whit about programming or how a game is made. Back when the AGM, (Audio Game Maker, project came out I found the tool fairly straight forward and easy to use. Lots of people were lost and confused. That taught me a lesson in the fact never assume that the end user can pick up things as easy or quickly as yourself. Especially, if you designed the thing, because you know everything about it and they don't. Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi Thomas, Yes it would certainly be possible by scripting, and it would not be hard to add it to my sidescroller template either. The hard part is really to come up with a nice enough designer interface that is easy to use for the absolute beginner. After all you do need to have a clear idea of most of the game logic in your mind, even if you don't script it yourself. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
Hi Philip, Not much of note to add yet, except to say that I've played all of the games Al mentioned above and can't see any reason why they couldn't be created with the setup you described. Just to reassure you. hth Scott On 12/2/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Philip. I think giving people some sort of interface with a template is a great idea! A really nice way on how people can get their feet wet at using the language without having to fall in at the deep end. it would also be a great way for those who wish to create mods, ie, games with similar enemy styles and content to existing ones but different sound and settings, to create games with different aspects to the original, - but similar rules. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:15 AM Subject: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi all, I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine that takes care of all the groundwork. However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them. Any thoughts on this? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
That would be good from my end. Tim - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:15 PM Subject: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi all, I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine that takes care of all the groundwork. However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them. Any thoughts on this? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.89/2539 - Release Date: 12/01/09 19:32:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
Sounds good to me, but, suppose doesn't help that am a bit of a developer/scripter already, but would definitely like to check something like this out a bit since unfortunately have never really gotten around to looking into things like DirectX and 3D sounds etc. myself too much. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:15 AM Subject: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi all, I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine that takes care of all the groundwork. However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them. Any thoughts on this? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4652 (20091201) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4652 (20091201) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
great idea, philip. It is very good to see that you are interested on enabling other people to develop their own workk, too. -Mensagem original- De: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Quarta, 2 de Dezembro de 2009 17:03 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Sounds good to me, but, suppose doesn't help that am a bit of a developer/scripter already, but would definitely like to check something like this out a bit since unfortunately have never really gotten around to looking into things like DirectX and 3D sounds etc. myself too much. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:15 AM Subject: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi all, I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine that takes care of all the groundwork. However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them. Any thoughts on this? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4652 (20091201) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4652 (20091201) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
Hi Mike, While it is true side-scrollers had their origins in the early to mid 1980's that doesn't mean the format can't be used in modern styles and genres of games. As Dark has so often pointed out many of the games of the 90's were side-scrollers too, but were far more advanced, challenging, and more feature packed than their 80's predecessors. Take my game, Mysteries of the Ancients, as an example here. Even though it is a side-scroller it has more in common with FPS type games than older classic side-scrollers. It has random enemies, random items, save and load game features, high quality music and sounds, is quite challenging on higher difficulty levels, and is far more complex and better than any80's side-scroller that came before it. So the idea that a side-scroller can't be modern is simply not true. They can be provided they are developed with a modern format and features in mind. Cheers! mike maslo wrote: Phillip: Well me personally although I do not programming at all, I would like to see more advanced games then the side scroller. I want to get out of the 80's or 70's and get to the 21st century. I want to see a tool that offers us the opportunity to make games that challenge us and the scripting language maybe some type of forum or new email group can be formed for those who are having problems with the program and can ask those who are more experienced in scripting when questions arise. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
Ok, thanks. I figured you wouldn't have played those games and sorry I couldn't explain them better. Thanks, al - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi Al, I don't know about the templates, but you can definitely make games like that if you write the code yourself in the Bgt language. I can always extend templates and add new possibilities to them, of course, but what I was mainly refering to when I said side scroller was a Q9 style game. The problem is that I have never played any of these games that you mention so I have nothing to really relate to. But in short, the functionality is there; it's just a matter of how much time one is willing to spend learning the language rather than using the templates. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi, When you say side scroller I think of super mario, or super liam and Monty's revenge and of course q9. Would the thing your making also be able to create more fighting type games? I am not sure what to call them, but examples would be double dragon, final fight, shinobi, streets of rage, golden axe...I hope you know what I mean. These are still mostly side scrollers, only they are usually in a three quarter view where they walk forward, usually from left to right, and encounter bad guys and beat them up, grab them and do various moves on them etc and so forth. Sorry I can't seem to define them much better then that. al - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:15 PM Subject: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi all, I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine that takes care of all the groundwork. However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them. Any thoughts on this? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.88/2537 - Release Date: 11/30/09 21:05:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
Hi Philip and all. I think this is an outstanding idea. I will be really interested to see what you come up with. I've had several game ideas over the years that I would not mind trying to implement, but quite frankly I am not willing to put the time and effort into learning a programming language just to try to do a game. I did some programming many years ago and I can do it if I want to, but it is just not something I am all that interested in doing anymore. I looked at the GMA engine as a possibility for starting to do this, don't remember now why I dropped it but I did. I suspect there are many others here like myself who would be willing to learn to do some scripting but are not willing to go out and get a programming degree just so they can see if their game idea pans out. The template builder is a very good idea to hopefully help people like myself get going with the scripting language. Hopefully your game engine will be or is capable of doing other types of games such as fps. I am also very interested in Thomas' game engine project because he has stated that it will be for doing all kinds of games. Best of luck with your project and I for one look forward to hearing about your progress. Tom -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:15 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi all, I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine that takes care of all the groundwork. However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them. Any thoughts on this? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
Hi Al, Seeing as the games you mentioned are side-scrollers I would imagine that Phil's toolkit could create them, or at least something close to it.There are certain aspects you might have to script though. For example, In Double Dragon the way you typically got weapons is by taking it away from enemy thugs. A guy carrying a baseball bat might try and hit you with it, you, knock him out, take the bat and start wailing on someone else with it. I'm not sure if the toolkit will allow you to steel weapons or not, and if it does it probably needs to be scripted. Allan Thompson wrote: Hi, When you say side scroller I think of super mario, or super liam and Monty's revenge and of course q9. Would the thing your making also be able to create more fighting type games? I am not sure what to call them, but examples would be double dragon, final fight, shinobi, streets of rage, golden axe...I hope you know what I mean. These are still mostly side scrollers, only they are usually in a three quarter view where they walk forward, usually from left to right, and encounter bad guys and beat them up, grab them and do various moves on them etc and so forth. Sorry I can't seem to define them much better then that. al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
Hi Thomas, Yes it would certainly be possible by scripting, and it would not be hard to add it to my sidescroller template either. The hard part is really to come up with a nice enough designer interface that is easy to use for the absolute beginner. After all you do need to have a clear idea of most of the game logic in your mind, even if you don't script it yourself. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi Al, Seeing as the games you mentioned are side-scrollers I would imagine that Phil's toolkit could create them, or at least something close to it.There are certain aspects you might have to script though. For example, In Double Dragon the way you typically got weapons is by taking it away from enemy thugs. A guy carrying a baseball bat might try and hit you with it, you, knock him out, take the bat and start wailing on someone else with it. I'm not sure if the toolkit will allow you to steel weapons or not, and if it does it probably needs to be scripted. Allan Thompson wrote: Hi, When you say side scroller I think of super mario, or super liam and Monty's revenge and of course q9. Would the thing your making also be able to create more fighting type games? I am not sure what to call them, but examples would be double dragon, final fight, shinobi, streets of rage, golden axe...I hope you know what I mean. These are still mostly side scrollers, only they are usually in a three quarter view where they walk forward, usually from left to right, and encounter bad guys and beat them up, grab them and do various moves on them etc and so forth. Sorry I can't seem to define them much better then that. al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.89/2539 - Release Date: 12/01/09 19:32:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] High level game creation tools
Hi all, I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine that takes care of all the groundwork. However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them. Any thoughts on this? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
Hi, When you say side scroller I think of super mario, or super liam and Monty's revenge and of course q9. Would the thing your making also be able to create more fighting type games? I am not sure what to call them, but examples would be double dragon, final fight, shinobi, streets of rage, golden axe...I hope you know what I mean. These are still mostly side scrollers, only they are usually in a three quarter view where they walk forward, usually from left to right, and encounter bad guys and beat them up, grab them and do various moves on them etc and so forth. Sorry I can't seem to define them much better then that. al - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:15 PM Subject: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi all, I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine that takes care of all the groundwork. However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them. Any thoughts on this? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
Hi Al, I don't know about the templates, but you can definitely make games like that if you write the code yourself in the Bgt language. I can always extend templates and add new possibilities to them, of course, but what I was mainly refering to when I said side scroller was a Q9 style game. The problem is that I have never played any of these games that you mention so I have nothing to really relate to. But in short, the functionality is there; it's just a matter of how much time one is willing to spend learning the language rather than using the templates. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi, When you say side scroller I think of super mario, or super liam and Monty's revenge and of course q9. Would the thing your making also be able to create more fighting type games? I am not sure what to call them, but examples would be double dragon, final fight, shinobi, streets of rage, golden axe...I hope you know what I mean. These are still mostly side scrollers, only they are usually in a three quarter view where they walk forward, usually from left to right, and encounter bad guys and beat them up, grab them and do various moves on them etc and so forth. Sorry I can't seem to define them much better then that. al - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:15 PM Subject: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi all, I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine that takes care of all the groundwork. However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them. Any thoughts on this? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.88/2537 - Release Date: 11/30/09 21:05:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
Phillip: Well me personally although I do not programming at all, I would like to see more advanced games then the side scroller. I want to get out of the 80's or 70's and get to the 21st century. I want to see a tool that offers us the opportunity to make games that challenge us and the scripting language maybe some type of forum or new email group can be formed for those who are having problems with the program and can ask those who are more experienced in scripting when questions arise. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:15 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi all, I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine that takes care of all the groundwork. However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them. Any thoughts on this? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
hmmm what about the advanced scripting for advanced users and a menu system like addrift, placing objects, moving round to place objects, etc. At 04:15 p.m. 2/12/2009, you wrote: Hi all, I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine that takes care of all the groundwork. However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them. Any thoughts on this? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
Hi Mike, Oh there will definitely be a help mailing list/forum for those who have problems with their code, and I will certainly be as active there responding to questions as I possibly can. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Phillip: Well me personally although I do not programming at all, I would like to see more advanced games then the side scroller. I want to get out of the 80's or 70's and get to the 21st century. I want to see a tool that offers us the opportunity to make games that challenge us and the scripting language maybe some type of forum or new email group can be formed for those who are having problems with the program and can ask those who are more experienced in scripting when questions arise. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:15 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi all, I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine that takes care of all the groundwork. However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them. Any thoughts on this? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.88/2537 - Release Date: 11/30/09 21:05:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
Hi Shaun, Yes, such high level tools are definitely on the sketchboard. However I have not finalized exactly how they are going to work yet as I am still working on the low level stuff, so any ideas are much appreciated at this point. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools hmmm what about the advanced scripting for advanced users and a menu system like addrift, placing objects, moving round to place objects, etc. At 04:15 p.m. 2/12/2009, you wrote: Hi all, I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine that takes care of all the groundwork. However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them. Any thoughts on this? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.88/2537 - Release Date: 11/30/09 21:05:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
aah. well if you find space for me to test I'll give it a shot I know you are full right now. At 05:55 p.m. 2/12/2009, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Yes, such high level tools are definitely on the sketchboard. However I have not finalized exactly how they are going to work yet as I am still working on the low level stuff, so any ideas are much appreciated at this point. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools hmmm what about the advanced scripting for advanced users and a menu system like addrift, placing objects, moving round to place objects, etc. At 04:15 p.m. 2/12/2009, you wrote: Hi all, I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine that takes care of all the groundwork. However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them. Any thoughts on this? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.88/2537 - Release Date: 11/30/09 21:05:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
i would personally like more advance games not just side scrowlers but that is my personal appinyon. ian --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools
Hi Philip. I think giving people some sort of interface with a template is a great idea! A really nice way on how people can get their feet wet at using the language without having to fall in at the deep end. it would also be a great way for those who wish to create mods, ie, games with similar enemy styles and content to existing ones but different sound and settings, to create games with different aspects to the original, - but similar rules. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:15 AM Subject: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools Hi all, I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine that takes care of all the groundwork. However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them. Any thoughts on this? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
