Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Well, I'll let you know about the skill tree. emp resistance actually doesn't seem to work all that well, I've stil got emped (ha! I made up a word too!), the turn after using it. After I've done my mercinary/bounty hunter game (really, the professions are very similar), which as you say will probably have to wait for the next upgrade, if the trade thing is fixed with the minimize button so as to be less of a pain, i'd like to try a full blown pirate game, with a bit of trading thrown in, and yes, i'll be playing as the syndicate. skills wise, taunt saves my neck a lot! then I've found it handy to try and balance the high damage and high accuracy skills. Most turns in battles (when no missiles are involved), I tend to use diciplin and focus beam, but targit lock and ambush also help. My one worry with emp skills is accurcy, sinse as you have to have lots of criminal skills to be able to have emp and exploit, you can't have things like targit lock, so I wonder how often you miss. anyway, you can always get some pretty good emp effects with disrupters. Beware the Grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Yeah, I like thhose skills as well. I'm not really sure how much taunt reduces accuracy, but it does seem to help quite a bit. I've found that a lot of the mercenary skills help as well. Things like disciplin, maneuver and lock I use almost every battle. I never got a chance to go for emp since I didn't get high enough in the criminal skill tree, but one skill I am really curious about is cloaking. I wonder what it does? I know you have to have a target mark on the other person's ship to be able to hit them, but it seems like it'd be just a bit too cheap to make you completely invisible and not even grazable. Grazable? Is that a word? Anyway, once I get around to beating the game with my mercenary, which probably won't be till fleet combat is fully accessible, I'll have to start over, maybe as another faction and try out some of the other skills. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Oh, that's really irritating about the paladin, though I feel a fool for just not trying. then again, it's probably more lucrative earning the extra hundred and fifty thousand or so with a shadowcat than with an avenger, sinse the damage is so much increased. I've actually come to the conclusion that the best sskills in the game are those that actually stop you from being hit, so skills like evil taunt and emp strike deffinately have their uses. the one thing that confuses me is why bog standard taunt doesn't seem to be in the skill tree anywhere, and doesn't lead you to anyb more skills. well, its' off to buy a paladin for me! Beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > Hmm, that's an interesting strategy. Me personally, I'm an all or nothing > kind of guy, for some reason I go for the super upgrades. And actually you > can buy a paladin in about any system that I've seen, I really have no > idea > what the not available thing is unless there's other ships that don't show > up. I know I've seen some ships that aren't on the list, for example the > hellcat and the corsair, I think they're federation spacific ships, so > maybe > the not available thing is those ships and they don't show up because he > didn't bother to textualize the ships you couldn't buy. From basically the > corvette up though, I pretty much stole my way through the ships rather > than > buy them. It's a lot easier on the purse if you can find a ship with a > fairly weak crew. It can still be tough though. > > As for focus beam 2, it must be mark, since I don't have either double > speed > or emp resistance. For some silly reason I went over into the criminal > skill > tree after I got tractor beam, which I got way too late in the game for my > liking by the way, I like your idea better *grin*. So I'm now at rank > admiral and can't get any further mercenary skills, which sucks since I'd > really like to have emp resistance. Ah well, for another time I suppose. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Hmm, that's an interesting strategy. Me personally, I'm an all or nothing kind of guy, for some reason I go for the super upgrades. And actually you can buy a paladin in about any system that I've seen, I really have no idea what the not available thing is unless there's other ships that don't show up. I know I've seen some ships that aren't on the list, for example the hellcat and the corsair, I think they're federation spacific ships, so maybe the not available thing is those ships and they don't show up because he didn't bother to textualize the ships you couldn't buy. From basically the corvette up though, I pretty much stole my way through the ships rather than buy them. It's a lot easier on the purse if you can find a ship with a fairly weak crew. It can still be tough though. As for focus beam 2, it must be mark, since I don't have either double speed or emp resistance. For some silly reason I went over into the criminal skill tree after I got tractor beam, which I got way too late in the game for my liking by the way, I like your idea better *grin*. So I'm now at rank admiral and can't get any further mercenary skills, which sucks since I'd really like to have emp resistance. Ah well, for another time I suppose. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Hmmm, well I'm not sure on graphics, i'll just have to see when i get there. about earning money for a jump ship, the prices for fighters are going to stay the sme aparently, it's only from corvets and upwards that the prices will increase. i just managed to get a shadow cat (why the heck the you can't buy a paladin in the solar system i don't know!). I don't actually find it too much of a problem as a mercienary to earn the money for a jump ship, but that's because i mix the missions in with bounty hunting the sensor screen, and don't buy too many ship upgrades, sinse as you said the game is much more fun when you leave the first system. what i've just done, was buy only the mars works combat engine, AND DEFENDER mK iI ECM, then choose advanced tracking, fast recharge, and tractor beam for the first few upgrades, though if I've got space i usually get advanced rewards, which iis possible after fast recharge. even before you get the tractor beam, I've found pirates are rather stupid about remembering to flee, provided you keep them busy with missiles and use the focus beam. Traders flee rather quickly, so the tractor beam is absolutely necessary before you start on them, provided you only attack enemy traders, you won't have any criminal problemS, IN FACT SINSE THERE ARE SO MANY ENEMY TRADERS AROUND, i really don't see a point in the criminal stuff. I've found with just the ecm and mars works combat, i can take out an average shadowcat with the right stratogy, for example a mission targit or pirate, though usually those high bounty pirates have emp and are much nastier. what i do then is choose mainly patrol missions, with the odd ambush or particularly rewarding search and destroy thrown in, and use the sensor screen at every oppertunity. when my shields get depleated by taking out pirates or traders, or when nothing appears, i move on. that way I've managed to get a jump ship pretty qhickly as a mercenary. the one thing i don't know is whether it's worth buying cargo management or not, sinse on the one hand it does cost money, but on the other it can increase loot from traders. well, that's the way I do it. oh btw shadowdragon, if your that far on in the game, maybe you could answer me a question? which ability do you need in the skill tree to get focus beam II? I know it's either double speed, mark or emp resistance, but i'm not sure which, and I don't want to make the mistake of buying the wrong one. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
I'm not really sure what you mean about the graphics, since all graphics show up the same with jaws. I didn't see any graphics on the sensor screen before it got fixed though, so perhaps hal is a bit better at reading certain types of graphics. Anyway the ship graphics are kind of like the ones that show up as planet icons, or at the bottom of the screen with compatibility mode off. Hmm. I'm not sure if I'm happy about the price change or not. The game did seem to go a little fast, but it seemed to have about the right balance. If the prices go up, then it'll go into the problem smugglers3 had where earning money gets ridiculously tedius. I had a bit of trouble already earning the money I needed for my first jump ship, since mercenaries have a hard time earning money in fighting missions early on. I hope at least he doesn't change the prices too much, or only in the later ships. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Hi shaddow dragon. I'm not sure how that will work with hal, but sinse I abandoned my syndicate game as it was going rather slowly and want to make a restart, it'll be a while before i need that screen. Are the ship graphics the same as the ones in battle? or more like the ones on the sensor screen before it was labled. hal's always been able to get the ship graphics, but before the sensor screen was labled I couldn' click on any of the blips. then again though, by the time i get to the point of needing a battleship it's likely the screen will be labled, especially sinse apparently in the next upgrade equipment prices are going up so as to slow the game down and force you to try more equipment types, just see the nielsbauer forum for details. as reguards ground combat, i haven't heard anything about that, and there's certainly nothing like that mentioned in the manual. the closest thing i've seen are those missions where you have to pick up marines and then drop them off on an enemy planet, descriptively very nice, but for practical purposes just two nav point patrol missions. Beware the Grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Ok, going to reply to 3 different messages here. Not sure if you've gotten past all this che, but if you've got the latest version of the patch you should see just about everything on the screen to start with. I think the only thing you can see if your patch isn't working properly is some of the travel screen, aka planets and jump points, but you wouldn't be able to buy ships, upgrade equipment and such. The battle screen I think has been workable from the start, though I'm not entirely sure. Either way I believe the patches upgrade from any version to the latest version, so if you unzipped everything odds are you've got the latest version. As for the scan mode, that's mostly for finding pirates and getting into spy missions and abduction missions and such. The options are actually attack, communicate and back, and back's the one you want. Dark, as of right now fleet combat isn't very accessible. Basically it looks a bit like this. You have 3 options. Attack target yourself, selected escort attacks and emergency shield recharge. Well I guess you have retreat as well, but who in their right mind would ever use that option? *grin*. What you can do, with jaws at least, is click on the graphics that are across from eachother. In all the fleet missions I've seen, you get a fleet of 3 ships escorting you, 2 destroyers and a cruiser, and you go up against the same and 3 battleships, so you're actually pretty heavily outnumbered. Once you've beaten the two destroyers and the cruiser on the enemy side though, the 3 battleships don't show up as graphics, so your only real option is to run the mouse straight up from the attack buttonand hope for the best trying to click on the next ship symbol to select your target. The one thing I haven't tried yet is ground combat, I can't figure out how to engage it, but supposedly there's supposed to be missions or raids of some kind where you can take your crew to a planet and drop your marines planet side and kind of supress the planets army in that fashion. I'm not sure if he scrapped that idea or not. Either way, even without it, smugglers4 has tons of features and is probably the closest thing to a completely accessible RPG we'll get in a long time. I love it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
click back, that's what I do :p - Original Message - From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > Ok, I am working on some basic jaws scripts for this thing, but somehow I > got into the scanning mode and the only options I have are attack and > communicate back, how does one get out of this mode? > thanks, > che > > - Original Message - > From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > > >> Hi ShadowDragon, >> I did download and unzip the patch to the smugglers 4 directory, so I >> think I am up to date. >> Could you walk through a short sequence, for example attacking a ship so >> I >> know if mine is running properly with the new patch? any other sequence >> would work fine as well I think. >> also, have you created any jaws scripts for this, or know of anyone that >> has? >> thanks, >> che >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Shadow Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? >> >> >>> Have to say I'm a bit confused. I don't have the problems with having to >>> click around a lot and such. The tutorial is kind of a pain I admit. >>> I've >>> never made it through the tutorial, don't think its very accessible. But >>> the >>> developer is constantly working on the compatibility mode. Maybe he'd be >>> willing to fix up the tutorial so the icons would show up? Odds are >>> they're >>> highlighted oddly when the tutorial wants you to look for it, so it >>> doesn't >>> read as the text icon but instead as the graphic. Personally I think the >>> game is pretty awesome. Especially when you get up into the later >>> missions, >>> get yourself a battleship and can participate in fleet combat, crew >>> combat >>> and ground raids. Yeah you have to use the jaws cursor quite a bit, but >>> that's sort of what the jaws cursor was made for. *shrug* Are you guys >>> all >>> running the latest version? In the version I have almost everything is >>> accessible. There's a little guesswork, for example when you're required >>> to >>> go somewhere for a mission the textualized icon changes to a graphic >>> because >>> it gets highlighted differently, and fleet combat isn't very accessible >>> yet, >>> but I'm sure in the next update both issues will be either fixed or have >>> work started on them. I reported both this morning. Hope you all start >>> having better luck with the game. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Ok, I am working on some basic jaws scripts for this thing, but somehow I got into the scanning mode and the only options I have are attack and communicate back, how does one get out of this mode? thanks, che - Original Message - From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > Hi ShadowDragon, > I did download and unzip the patch to the smugglers 4 directory, so I > think I am up to date. > Could you walk through a short sequence, for example attacking a ship so > I > know if mine is running properly with the new patch? any other sequence > would work fine as well I think. > also, have you created any jaws scripts for this, or know of anyone that > has? > thanks, > che > > - Original Message - > From: "Shadow Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > > >> Have to say I'm a bit confused. I don't have the problems with having to >> click around a lot and such. The tutorial is kind of a pain I admit. I've >> never made it through the tutorial, don't think its very accessible. But >> the >> developer is constantly working on the compatibility mode. Maybe he'd be >> willing to fix up the tutorial so the icons would show up? Odds are >> they're >> highlighted oddly when the tutorial wants you to look for it, so it >> doesn't >> read as the text icon but instead as the graphic. Personally I think the >> game is pretty awesome. Especially when you get up into the later >> missions, >> get yourself a battleship and can participate in fleet combat, crew >> combat >> and ground raids. Yeah you have to use the jaws cursor quite a bit, but >> that's sort of what the jaws cursor was made for. *shrug* Are you guys >> all >> running the latest version? In the version I have almost everything is >> accessible. There's a little guesswork, for example when you're required >> to >> go somewhere for a mission the textualized icon changes to a graphic >> because >> it gets highlighted differently, and fleet combat isn't very accessible >> yet, >> but I'm sure in the next update both issues will be either fixed or have >> work started on them. I reported both this morning. Hope you all start >> having better luck with the game. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Hi ShadowDragon, I did download and unzip the patch to the smugglers 4 directory, so I think I am up to date. Could you walk through a short sequence, for example attacking a ship so I know if mine is running properly with the new patch? any other sequence would work fine as well I think. also, have you created any jaws scripts for this, or know of anyone that has? thanks, che - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > Have to say I'm a bit confused. I don't have the problems with having to > click around a lot and such. The tutorial is kind of a pain I admit. I've > never made it through the tutorial, don't think its very accessible. But > the > developer is constantly working on the compatibility mode. Maybe he'd be > willing to fix up the tutorial so the icons would show up? Odds are > they're > highlighted oddly when the tutorial wants you to look for it, so it > doesn't > read as the text icon but instead as the graphic. Personally I think the > game is pretty awesome. Especially when you get up into the later > missions, > get yourself a battleship and can participate in fleet combat, crew combat > and ground raids. Yeah you have to use the jaws cursor quite a bit, but > that's sort of what the jaws cursor was made for. *shrug* Are you guys all > running the latest version? In the version I have almost everything is > accessible. There's a little guesswork, for example when you're required > to > go somewhere for a mission the textualized icon changes to a graphic > because > it gets highlighted differently, and fleet combat isn't very accessible > yet, > but I'm sure in the next update both issues will be either fixed or have > work started on them. I reported both this morning. Hope you all start > having better luck with the game. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
hi shadow dragon. apparently fleet combat is next on the list, but sinse I haven't got a battleship yet, I'm not sure how accessible or not it is at the moment. my only problem with clicking around is that you have to muck about a bit to see all the trade prices for goods in the system, that's the main reason I think the tutorial is problematic. i actually did complete it, by altering the position of the trade window so that hal's vf would read the information on the planets at the top or bottom of the screen which were obscured by it, though as i said, i think niels is going to fix this. the tutorial marker itself didn't show up, but just look for the planet with the lowest price good of whatever good your told to buy and it'll be that one. for the mission in the tutorial, just read the text for the appropriate location. Even though the crew hyering is perfectly easy by counting down the columns, Niels is going to lable that screen as well so as to make things even easier. personally as I said, I absolutely love the game. Beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > Have to say I'm a bit confused. I don't have the problems with having to > click around a lot and such. The tutorial is kind of a pain I admit. I've > never made it through the tutorial, don't think its very accessible. But > the > developer is constantly working on the compatibility mode. Maybe he'd be > willing to fix up the tutorial so the icons would show up? Odds are > they're > highlighted oddly when the tutorial wants you to look for it, so it > doesn't > read as the text icon but instead as the graphic. Personally I think the > game is pretty awesome. Especially when you get up into the later > missions, > get yourself a battleship and can participate in fleet combat, crew combat > and ground raids. Yeah you have to use the jaws cursor quite a bit, but > that's sort of what the jaws cursor was made for. *shrug* Are you guys all > running the latest version? In the version I have almost everything is > accessible. There's a little guesswork, for example when you're required > to > go somewhere for a mission the textualized icon changes to a graphic > because > it gets highlighted differently, and fleet combat isn't very accessible > yet, > but I'm sure in the next update both issues will be either fixed or have > work started on them. I reported both this morning. Hope you all start > having better luck with the game. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Have to say I'm a bit confused. I don't have the problems with having to click around a lot and such. The tutorial is kind of a pain I admit. I've never made it through the tutorial, don't think its very accessible. But the developer is constantly working on the compatibility mode. Maybe he'd be willing to fix up the tutorial so the icons would show up? Odds are they're highlighted oddly when the tutorial wants you to look for it, so it doesn't read as the text icon but instead as the graphic. Personally I think the game is pretty awesome. Especially when you get up into the later missions, get yourself a battleship and can participate in fleet combat, crew combat and ground raids. Yeah you have to use the jaws cursor quite a bit, but that's sort of what the jaws cursor was made for. *shrug* Are you guys all running the latest version? In the version I have almost everything is accessible. There's a little guesswork, for example when you're required to go somewhere for a mission the textualized icon changes to a graphic because it gets highlighted differently, and fleet combat isn't very accessible yet, but I'm sure in the next update both issues will be either fixed or have work started on them. I reported both this morning. Hope you all start having better luck with the game. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
No temper tantroms I think, i'm already pleased with what niels bauer has done accessibility wise, remember he doesn't have to. as someone has already said, the compatibility mode is a work in progress, and already a lot more of the game is playable than when it first came out. i think when the trade window is fixed, and he's made the fleet combat screen accessible (though havn't quite got to the point where I need that as yet), the game will be one of the all time greats. beware the Grue! dark. - Original Message - From: "Tj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > Now that you mean peeps brought it up, I'm having that problem too1 > Jerks. > We should band together and have a temper tantrum and make the dev fix it! > > Ok, so, request nicely is what I'm really shooting for. Chea should lead > the way! I'll be the cheering man :) > > Tj > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Feir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list" > > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > > >> Hi Che. The accessible mode is still a work in progress. You should >> explain >> your troubles to the developer so he knows what to work on. I think >> you're >> having the same problem as I am where locations seem to disappear off the >> map just when you need to go to them. It certainly isn't as easy as >> Smugglers3. That's for certain. Still, when the accessible mode is all >> done, >> Smugglers4 is definitely going to be a far supperior game. We just have >> to >> be patient and vocal about what does and doesn't work for us. >> Michael Feir >> Author of Personal Power: >> How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People >> 2006-2008 >> www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power >> >> A Life of Word and Sound >> 2003-2007 >> http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound >> >> Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine >> 1996-2004 >> Check out my blog at: >> www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 7:25 PM >> Subject: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? >> >> >>> Hi all, >>> I purchased Smugglers 4 this afternoon, as I like to support any >>> mainstream developer that is willing to include features to make their >>> games more accessible. >>> But so far, this is a joke I must say. Either that, or I am seriously >>> missing something here. >>> I understand this game wasn't designed with the blind in mind, so I >>> figured I'd have to use the jaws cursor a good bit, I have no problem >>> with >>> that, but I haven't even done the first part of the tutorial and I am >>> showing signs of carpel tunnel syndrome here. >>> When the tutorial says the planet you need to go to has been marked for >>> you for example, I arrow all over the place trying to find said planet >>> to >>> no avail, so here I am stuck with no planet to go. >>> You folks that are playing this game, is this thing actually fairly >>> smooth to play with a screenreader, or should I just go back to playing >>> Madden 09 on my Wii and forget about it if I am not willing to arrow >>> around dozens of times to get one thing done? I had thoughts of creating >>> scripts for this if it turned out to be playable, but right now I don't >>> see that as a possibility. >>> Someone please tell me I am missing something here, because the game >>> sounds really cool. >>> and yes, I have turned on compatibility mode, (thanks ShadowDragon), >>> and >>> I have looked at the relevant parts of the manual, even though it is in >>> the dreaded .pdf format. >>> Signing out from near Alpha Centauri. >>> Che >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Hi Michael. as i said to che, the trade window does unfortunately obscure several planets, which makes trading a real pest. if locations are vanishing suggest making sure the trde window is closed before going somewhere else. this does make trading a lot slower than in smugglers 3, but I've suggested that nielsbauer include a minimize button, so that you can look over all the planets of the system and the prices of the various goods without the window in the way. Beware the Grue! Dark. beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: "Michael Feir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > Hi Che. The accessible mode is still a work in progress. You should > explain > your troubles to the developer so he knows what to work on. I think you're > having the same problem as I am where locations seem to disappear off the > map just when you need to go to them. It certainly isn't as easy as > Smugglers3. That's for certain. Still, when the accessible mode is all > done, > Smugglers4 is definitely going to be a far supperior game. We just have to > be patient and vocal about what does and doesn't work for us. > Michael Feir > Author of Personal Power: > How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People > 2006-2008 > www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power > > A Life of Word and Sound > 2003-2007 > http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound > > Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine > 1996-2004 > Check out my blog at: > www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 7:25 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > > >> Hi all, >> I purchased Smugglers 4 this afternoon, as I like to support any >> mainstream developer that is willing to include features to make their >> games more accessible. >> But so far, this is a joke I must say. Either that, or I am seriously >> missing something here. >> I understand this game wasn't designed with the blind in mind, so I >> figured I'd have to use the jaws cursor a good bit, I have no problem >> with >> that, but I haven't even done the first part of the tutorial and I am >> showing signs of carpel tunnel syndrome here. >> When the tutorial says the planet you need to go to has been marked for >> you for example, I arrow all over the place trying to find said planet to >> no avail, so here I am stuck with no planet to go. >> You folks that are playing this game, is this thing actually fairly >> smooth to play with a screenreader, or should I just go back to playing >> Madden 09 on my Wii and forget about it if I am not willing to arrow >> around dozens of times to get one thing done? I had thoughts of creating >> scripts for this if it turned out to be playable, but right now I don't >> see that as a possibility. >> Someone please tell me I am missing something here, because the game >> sounds really cool. >> and yes, I have turned on compatibility mode, (thanks ShadowDragon), and >> I have looked at the relevant parts of the manual, even though it is in >> the dreaded .pdf format. >> Signing out from near Alpha Centauri. >> Che >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Hi tj. As i said to che, if you download the most recent update, 1.0 H, the sensor screenis accessible, making it much easier to pick out good fat trader ships or pirates with high bounties on their heads, this makes getting out of your fighter a lot quicker, even without trading. I think it took me about an hour and a half, combining missions, bounties and piracy. hth. beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Tj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > I've had some luck, and can do it. I use hot spot clicker to simulate > some > of my clicks, however, I've never actually done the tutorial. > > Also, if you were to have created scripts, I'd help in any way I could! > Good game, a pain indeed to click around a lot. That and I'm tired of > killing over and over and over and over and over and over to try to get > the > next ship *grins* > > Tj > - Original Message - > From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 5:25 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > > >> Hi all, >> I purchased Smugglers 4 this afternoon, as I like to support any >> mainstream developer that is willing to include features to make their >> games more accessible. >> But so far, this is a joke I must say. Either that, or I am seriously >> missing something here. >> I understand this game wasn't designed with the blind in mind, so I >> figured I'd have to use the jaws cursor a good bit, I have no problem >> with >> that, but I haven't even done the first part of the tutorial and I am >> showing signs of carpel tunnel syndrome here. >> When the tutorial says the planet you need to go to has been marked for >> you for example, I arrow all over the place trying to find said planet to >> no avail, so here I am stuck with no planet to go. >> You folks that are playing this game, is this thing actually fairly >> smooth to play with a screenreader, or should I just go back to playing >> Madden 09 on my Wii and forget about it if I am not willing to arrow >> around dozens of times to get one thing done? I had thoughts of creating >> scripts for this if it turned out to be playable, but right now I don't >> see that as a possibility. >> Someone please tell me I am missing something here, because the game >> sounds really cool. >> and yes, I have turned on compatibility mode, (thanks ShadowDragon), and >> I have looked at the relevant parts of the manual, even though it is in >> the dreaded .pdf format. >> Signing out from near Alpha Centauri. >> Che >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Hi che. firstly, i'd suggest using the update patch. then, at the moment trading in the game is a bit of a pest, because the trade window covers up half the planets of a system, so to see the prices of goods it's necessary to keep closing the window, clicking a planet at the top or bottom of the screen, then opening the window again. this is what is necessary for the tutorial I'm afraid. i've had a chat with the developer about fixing this, but he hasn't inserted it into the game as yet. to be honest I don't bother with trading, sinse it's so long winded to keep opening and closing windows as is necessary at the moment, i just do missions and pirate other ships, especially good now that the most recent update has made the sensor screen accessible, and I currently have a patan destroyer, about a million dollars, and have stopped several invasions. if you really want to do the tutorial, you can do it by opening the trade window as described, but to be honest right clicking on anything in the game (i assume you can do this with the jaws curser), willgive you information. i think the developer would be very interested in discussing jaws scripting, and I know he's very good about taking suggestions on board. Of course sinse i use Hal i'm afraid i can't give any jaws specific suggestions though. the compatibility mode of the game is a bit of a work in progress at the moment, but I've stil been absolutely addicted to it for the last couple of days, and i'd recommend it to anyone. beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Now that you mean peeps brought it up, I'm having that problem too1 Jerks. We should band together and have a temper tantrum and make the dev fix it! Ok, so, request nicely is what I'm really shooting for. Chea should lead the way! I'll be the cheering man :) Tj - Original Message - From: "Michael Feir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > Hi Che. The accessible mode is still a work in progress. You should > explain > your troubles to the developer so he knows what to work on. I think you're > having the same problem as I am where locations seem to disappear off the > map just when you need to go to them. It certainly isn't as easy as > Smugglers3. That's for certain. Still, when the accessible mode is all > done, > Smugglers4 is definitely going to be a far supperior game. We just have to > be patient and vocal about what does and doesn't work for us. > Michael Feir > Author of Personal Power: > How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People > 2006-2008 > www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power > > A Life of Word and Sound > 2003-2007 > http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound > > Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine > 1996-2004 > Check out my blog at: > www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 7:25 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > > >> Hi all, >> I purchased Smugglers 4 this afternoon, as I like to support any >> mainstream developer that is willing to include features to make their >> games more accessible. >> But so far, this is a joke I must say. Either that, or I am seriously >> missing something here. >> I understand this game wasn't designed with the blind in mind, so I >> figured I'd have to use the jaws cursor a good bit, I have no problem >> with >> that, but I haven't even done the first part of the tutorial and I am >> showing signs of carpel tunnel syndrome here. >> When the tutorial says the planet you need to go to has been marked for >> you for example, I arrow all over the place trying to find said planet to >> no avail, so here I am stuck with no planet to go. >> You folks that are playing this game, is this thing actually fairly >> smooth to play with a screenreader, or should I just go back to playing >> Madden 09 on my Wii and forget about it if I am not willing to arrow >> around dozens of times to get one thing done? I had thoughts of creating >> scripts for this if it turned out to be playable, but right now I don't >> see that as a possibility. >> Someone please tell me I am missing something here, because the game >> sounds really cool. >> and yes, I have turned on compatibility mode, (thanks ShadowDragon), and >> I have looked at the relevant parts of the manual, even though it is in >> the dreaded .pdf format. >> Signing out from near Alpha Centauri. >> Che >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Hi Che. The accessible mode is still a work in progress. You should explain your troubles to the developer so he knows what to work on. I think you're having the same problem as I am where locations seem to disappear off the map just when you need to go to them. It certainly isn't as easy as Smugglers3. That's for certain. Still, when the accessible mode is all done, Smugglers4 is definitely going to be a far supperior game. We just have to be patient and vocal about what does and doesn't work for us. Michael Feir Author of Personal Power: How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People 2006-2008 www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power A Life of Word and Sound 2003-2007 http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 7:25 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > Hi all, > I purchased Smugglers 4 this afternoon, as I like to support any > mainstream developer that is willing to include features to make their > games more accessible. > But so far, this is a joke I must say. Either that, or I am seriously > missing something here. > I understand this game wasn't designed with the blind in mind, so I > figured I'd have to use the jaws cursor a good bit, I have no problem with > that, but I haven't even done the first part of the tutorial and I am > showing signs of carpel tunnel syndrome here. > When the tutorial says the planet you need to go to has been marked for > you for example, I arrow all over the place trying to find said planet to > no avail, so here I am stuck with no planet to go. > You folks that are playing this game, is this thing actually fairly > smooth to play with a screenreader, or should I just go back to playing > Madden 09 on my Wii and forget about it if I am not willing to arrow > around dozens of times to get one thing done? I had thoughts of creating > scripts for this if it turned out to be playable, but right now I don't > see that as a possibility. > Someone please tell me I am missing something here, because the game > sounds really cool. > and yes, I have turned on compatibility mode, (thanks ShadowDragon), and > I have looked at the relevant parts of the manual, even though it is in > the dreaded .pdf format. > Signing out from near Alpha Centauri. > Che > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
I went through the tutorial fine. I had a little problem at first finding out the buy all button but outside of that I was fine with the game. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tj Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:31 PM To: Che; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? I've had some luck, and can do it. I use hot spot clicker to simulate some of my clicks, however, I've never actually done the tutorial. Also, if you were to have created scripts, I'd help in any way I could! Good game, a pain indeed to click around a lot. That and I'm tired of killing over and over and over and over and over and over to try to get the next ship *grins* Tj - Original Message - From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 5:25 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > Hi all, > I purchased Smugglers 4 this afternoon, as I like to support any > mainstream developer that is willing to include features to make their > games more accessible. > But so far, this is a joke I must say. Either that, or I am seriously > missing something here. > I understand this game wasn't designed with the blind in mind, so I > figured I'd have to use the jaws cursor a good bit, I have no problem with > that, but I haven't even done the first part of the tutorial and I am > showing signs of carpel tunnel syndrome here. > When the tutorial says the planet you need to go to has been marked for > you for example, I arrow all over the place trying to find said planet to > no avail, so here I am stuck with no planet to go. > You folks that are playing this game, is this thing actually fairly > smooth to play with a screenreader, or should I just go back to playing > Madden 09 on my Wii and forget about it if I am not willing to arrow > around dozens of times to get one thing done? I had thoughts of creating > scripts for this if it turned out to be playable, but right now I don't > see that as a possibility. > Someone please tell me I am missing something here, because the game > sounds really cool. > and yes, I have turned on compatibility mode, (thanks ShadowDragon), and > I have looked at the relevant parts of the manual, even though it is in > the dreaded .pdf format. > Signing out from near Alpha Centauri. > Che > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Che: Although off topic or off subject is Madden 09 for the WII accessible? I have a wii and want to play it. How accessible is it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Che Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:25 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? Hi all, I purchased Smugglers 4 this afternoon, as I like to support any mainstream developer that is willing to include features to make their games more accessible. But so far, this is a joke I must say. Either that, or I am seriously missing something here. I understand this game wasn't designed with the blind in mind, so I figured I'd have to use the jaws cursor a good bit, I have no problem with that, but I haven't even done the first part of the tutorial and I am showing signs of carpel tunnel syndrome here. When the tutorial says the planet you need to go to has been marked for you for example, I arrow all over the place trying to find said planet to no avail, so here I am stuck with no planet to go. You folks that are playing this game, is this thing actually fairly smooth to play with a screenreader, or should I just go back to playing Madden 09 on my Wii and forget about it if I am not willing to arrow around dozens of times to get one thing done? I had thoughts of creating scripts for this if it turned out to be playable, but right now I don't see that as a possibility. Someone please tell me I am missing something here, because the game sounds really cool. and yes, I have turned on compatibility mode, (thanks ShadowDragon), and I have looked at the relevant parts of the manual, even though it is in the dreaded .pdf format. Signing out from near Alpha Centauri. Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Che: I am not sure if you got answered yet. You have to make sure you download all the updates. The updates make it very accessible. Please advise. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Che Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:25 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? Hi all, I purchased Smugglers 4 this afternoon, as I like to support any mainstream developer that is willing to include features to make their games more accessible. But so far, this is a joke I must say. Either that, or I am seriously missing something here. I understand this game wasn't designed with the blind in mind, so I figured I'd have to use the jaws cursor a good bit, I have no problem with that, but I haven't even done the first part of the tutorial and I am showing signs of carpel tunnel syndrome here. When the tutorial says the planet you need to go to has been marked for you for example, I arrow all over the place trying to find said planet to no avail, so here I am stuck with no planet to go. You folks that are playing this game, is this thing actually fairly smooth to play with a screenreader, or should I just go back to playing Madden 09 on my Wii and forget about it if I am not willing to arrow around dozens of times to get one thing done? I had thoughts of creating scripts for this if it turned out to be playable, but right now I don't see that as a possibility. Someone please tell me I am missing something here, because the game sounds really cool. and yes, I have turned on compatibility mode, (thanks ShadowDragon), and I have looked at the relevant parts of the manual, even though it is in the dreaded .pdf format. Signing out from near Alpha Centauri. Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
I've had some luck, and can do it. I use hot spot clicker to simulate some of my clicks, however, I've never actually done the tutorial. Also, if you were to have created scripts, I'd help in any way I could! Good game, a pain indeed to click around a lot. That and I'm tired of killing over and over and over and over and over and over to try to get the next ship *grins* Tj - Original Message - From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 5:25 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > Hi all, > I purchased Smugglers 4 this afternoon, as I like to support any > mainstream developer that is willing to include features to make their > games more accessible. > But so far, this is a joke I must say. Either that, or I am seriously > missing something here. > I understand this game wasn't designed with the blind in mind, so I > figured I'd have to use the jaws cursor a good bit, I have no problem with > that, but I haven't even done the first part of the tutorial and I am > showing signs of carpel tunnel syndrome here. > When the tutorial says the planet you need to go to has been marked for > you for example, I arrow all over the place trying to find said planet to > no avail, so here I am stuck with no planet to go. > You folks that are playing this game, is this thing actually fairly > smooth to play with a screenreader, or should I just go back to playing > Madden 09 on my Wii and forget about it if I am not willing to arrow > around dozens of times to get one thing done? I had thoughts of creating > scripts for this if it turned out to be playable, but right now I don't > see that as a possibility. > Someone please tell me I am missing something here, because the game > sounds really cool. > and yes, I have turned on compatibility mode, (thanks ShadowDragon), and > I have looked at the relevant parts of the manual, even though it is in > the dreaded .pdf format. > Signing out from near Alpha Centauri. > Che > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Hi all, I purchased Smugglers 4 this afternoon, as I like to support any mainstream developer that is willing to include features to make their games more accessible. But so far, this is a joke I must say. Either that, or I am seriously missing something here. I understand this game wasn't designed with the blind in mind, so I figured I'd have to use the jaws cursor a good bit, I have no problem with that, but I haven't even done the first part of the tutorial and I am showing signs of carpel tunnel syndrome here. When the tutorial says the planet you need to go to has been marked for you for example, I arrow all over the place trying to find said planet to no avail, so here I am stuck with no planet to go. You folks that are playing this game, is this thing actually fairly smooth to play with a screenreader, or should I just go back to playing Madden 09 on my Wii and forget about it if I am not willing to arrow around dozens of times to get one thing done? I had thoughts of creating scripts for this if it turned out to be playable, but right now I don't see that as a possibility. Someone please tell me I am missing something here, because the game sounds really cool. and yes, I have turned on compatibility mode, (thanks ShadowDragon), and I have looked at the relevant parts of the manual, even though it is in the dreaded .pdf format. Signing out from near Alpha Centauri. Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
