Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
I agree with everything save your last point, when your fighting zombies, and you get a new weapon, that ammo really helps. Also, having a loaded weapon from the field gives people an insentive to actually go loot hunting. - Original Message - From: Dakotah Rickard Ok, the first thing I speak on is the axe bug. I don't know how this works, but if you switch from the axe to something that needs reloading very quickly, say in the heat of battle, and you reload that thing, the axe becomes one ammo for that thing. That's how you lose your axe. Now for something different. Many who know the characters Slade and Liberty will know how hard I try to impress upon people that death, as a part of the game, should involve risk and loss. I firmly hold to that, and I only point out how much it means to me now, because I think that you should regain your starting supply of equipment each time you die. When you start, you get a pistol, eight rounds in your pistol, and a field kit with one medkit loaded. This really isn't much, but it's better than the pistol with eight rounds you get on death. Yeah, people could cheat a little harder and donate stuff and go die again, but if people are going to cheat, they will, and there's technically nothing to do about it in this case. Starting with a little something will prevent the ease of just dying again that many experience on death. Now for the next topic. it once was that Swamp was configured to allow only one weapon of a type to be carried. Before, that made sense, as you only ever needed one weapon, and others would turn into ammo. Now, with the exception of the pistol, which seems so rediculously common that it's worth ten reputation points to donate and everyone gets one no matter what, all the weapons are worth more than their respective ammo. Imagine you get a hunting rifle, or even better an assault rifle. Those are worth a pretty penny, as such things go, in the safe zone. Now, if you should stumble across another one, you won't get it. Instead, you get 40 rounds of 5.56 ammo. Useful, true, but honestly you'd get that anyway, as you find guns fully loaded. I suggest therefore that not only is it good for rep to be able to pick up seconds or thirds and beyond in a type of weapon, but that if your primary breaks, you have a secondary to fall back on. In fact, hitting the number key a number of times might switch to that weapon, so say you have three shotguns, all loaded but the third set to scattershot, you could hit the three key three times and get to your scattershot weapon. Yeah, donating is great, too, but having a backup might be nice. Fally, I suggest that guns you buy from the safe zone should be fully loaded, like the ones you find in the field. In the case of the m60 or minigun, this is a pretty hefty chunk of ammo and rep, but it's really worth it. Either guns in the SZ should be loaded or the guns you find in the field shouldn't be, just for parallel's sake if nothing else. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
but then, as it is, your able to carry all of the kinds of weapons. so in actual fact, in real life, you wouldn't be able to move, cause you couldn't possibly carry around an m60, a volcan, sniper, hunting, and all the others. not possible. so as it is, i think you have enough weapons. dallas On 14/12/2011 02:10, Dakotah Rickard wrote: Ok, the first thing I speak on is the axe bug. I don't know how this works, but if you switch from the axe to something that needs reloading very quickly, say in the heat of battle, and you reload that thing, the axe becomes one ammo for that thing. That's how you lose your axe. Now for something different. Many who know the characters Slade and Liberty will know how hard I try to impress upon people that death, as a part of the game, should involve risk and loss. I firmly hold to that, and I only point out how much it means to me now, because I think that you should regain your starting supply of equipment each time you die. When you start, you get a pistol, eight rounds in your pistol, and a field kit with one medkit loaded. This really isn't much, but it's better than the pistol with eight rounds you get on death. Yeah, people could cheat a little harder and donate stuff and go die again, but if people are going to cheat, they will, and there's technically nothing to do about it in this case. Starting with a little something will prevent the ease of just dying again that many experience on death. Now for the next topic. it once was that Swamp was configured to allow only one weapon of a type to be carried. Before, that made sense, as you only ever needed one weapon, and others would turn into ammo. Now, with the exception of the pistol, which seems so rediculously common that it's worth ten reputation points to donate and everyone gets one no matter what, all the weapons are worth more than their respective ammo. Imagine you get a hunting rifle, or even better an assault rifle. Those are worth a pretty penny, as such things go, in the safe zone. Now, if you should stumble across another one, you won't get it. Instead, you get 40 rounds of 5.56 ammo. Useful, true, but honestly you'd get that anyway, as you find guns fully loaded. I suggest therefore that not only is it good for rep to be able to pick up seconds or thirds and beyond in a type of weapon, but that if your primary breaks, you have a secondary to fall back on. In fact, hitting the number key a number of times might switch to that weapon, so say you have three shotguns, all loaded but the third set to scattershot, you could hit the three key three times and get to your scattershot weapon. Yeah, donating is great, too, but having a backup might be nice. Fally, I suggest that guns you buy from the safe zone should be fully loaded, like the ones you find in the field. In the case of the m60 or minigun, this is a pretty hefty chunk of ammo and rep, but it's really worth it. Either guns in the SZ should be loaded or the guns you find in the field shouldn't be, just for parallel's sake if nothing else. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
But we aren't talking about real life, or a simulation! We are talking about a game. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dallas O'Brien Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:53 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports but then, as it is, your able to carry all of the kinds of weapons. so in actual fact, in real life, you wouldn't be able to move, cause you couldn't possibly carry around an m60, a volcan, sniper, hunting, and all the others. not possible. so as it is, i think you have enough weapons. dallas On 14/12/2011 02:10, Dakotah Rickard wrote: > Ok, the first thing I speak on is the axe bug. I don't know how this > works, but if you switch from the axe to something that needs > reloading very quickly, say in the heat of battle, and you reload that > thing, the axe becomes one ammo for that thing. That's how you lose > your axe. > > Now for something different. Many who know the characters Slade and > Liberty will know how hard I try to impress upon people that death, as > a part of the game, should involve risk and loss. I firmly hold to > that, and I only point out how much it means to me now, because I > think that you should regain your starting supply of equipment each > time you die. When you start, you get a pistol, eight rounds in your > pistol, and a field kit with one medkit loaded. This really isn't > much, but it's better than the pistol with eight rounds you get on > death. Yeah, people could cheat a little harder and donate stuff and > go die again, but if people are going to cheat, they will, and there's > technically nothing to do about it in this case. Starting with a > little something will prevent the ease of just dying again that many > experience on death. > > Now for the next topic. it once was that Swamp was configured to allow > only one weapon of a type to be carried. Before, that made sense, as > you only ever needed one weapon, and others would turn into ammo. Now, > with the exception of the pistol, which seems so rediculously common > that it's worth ten reputation points to donate and everyone gets one > no matter what, all the weapons are worth more than their respective > ammo. Imagine you get a hunting rifle, or even better an assault > rifle. Those are worth a pretty penny, as such things go, in the safe > zone. Now, if you should stumble across another one, you won't get it. > Instead, you get 40 rounds of 5.56 ammo. Useful, true, but honestly > you'd get that anyway, as you find guns fully loaded. I suggest > therefore that not only is it good for rep to be able to pick up > seconds or thirds and beyond in a type of weapon, but that if your > primary breaks, you have a secondary to fall back on. In fact, hitting > the number key a number of times might switch to that weapon, so say > you have three shotguns, all loaded but the third set to scattershot, > you could hit the three key three times and get to your scattershot > weapon. Yeah, donating is great, too, but having a backup might be > nice. > > Fally, I suggest that guns you buy from the safe zone should be fully > loaded, like the ones you find in the field. In the case of the m60 or > minigun, this is a pretty hefty chunk of ammo and rep, but it's really > worth it. Either guns in the SZ should be loaded or the guns you find > in the field shouldn't be, just for parallel's sake if nothing else. > > Signed: > Dakotah Rickard > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the > list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 6709 (20111213) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6709 (20111213)
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
I believe a real minigun alone- the portable one, weighs about 90 LBs all on its lonesome heh- alot of weight even for a strong man. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
True Darren, but a good game enforces choices, each of which is significant. No choice should be inconsequential and no situation should occur that is not affected by a choice. I don't know about others, but I've now reached the point where death is rare unless I royally screw up or intentionally play a bit madly, and I'd like more challenge that the game presents, rather than artificial constraints I place on myself. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Darren Duff Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:25 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports But we aren't talking about real life, or a simulation! We are talking about a game. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dallas O'Brien Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:53 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports but then, as it is, your able to carry all of the kinds of weapons. so in actual fact, in real life, you wouldn't be able to move, cause you couldn't possibly carry around an m60, a volcan, sniper, hunting, and all the others. not possible. so as it is, i think you have enough weapons. dallas On 14/12/2011 02:10, Dakotah Rickard wrote: > Ok, the first thing I speak on is the axe bug. I don't know how this > works, but if you switch from the axe to something that needs > reloading very quickly, say in the heat of battle, and you reload that > thing, the axe becomes one ammo for that thing. That's how you lose > your axe. > > Now for something different. Many who know the characters Slade and > Liberty will know how hard I try to impress upon people that death, as > a part of the game, should involve risk and loss. I firmly hold to > that, and I only point out how much it means to me now, because I > think that you should regain your starting supply of equipment each > time you die. When you start, you get a pistol, eight rounds in your > pistol, and a field kit with one medkit loaded. This really isn't > much, but it's better than the pistol with eight rounds you get on > death. Yeah, people could cheat a little harder and donate stuff and > go die again, but if people are going to cheat, they will, and there's > technically nothing to do about it in this case. Starting with a > little something will prevent the ease of just dying again that many > experience on death. > > Now for the next topic. it once was that Swamp was configured to allow > only one weapon of a type to be carried. Before, that made sense, as > you only ever needed one weapon, and others would turn into ammo. Now, > with the exception of the pistol, which seems so rediculously common > that it's worth ten reputation points to donate and everyone gets one > no matter what, all the weapons are worth more than their respective > ammo. Imagine you get a hunting rifle, or even better an assault > rifle. Those are worth a pretty penny, as such things go, in the safe > zone. Now, if you should stumble across another one, you won't get it. > Instead, you get 40 rounds of 5.56 ammo. Useful, true, but honestly > you'd get that anyway, as you find guns fully loaded. I suggest > therefore that not only is it good for rep to be able to pick up > seconds or thirds and beyond in a type of weapon, but that if your > primary breaks, you have a secondary to fall back on. In fact, hitting > the number key a number of times might switch to that weapon, so say > you have three shotguns, all loaded but the third set to scattershot, > you could hit the three key three times and get to your scattershot > weapon. Yeah, donating is great, too, but having a backup might be > nice. > > Fally, I suggest that guns you buy from the safe zone should be fully > loaded, like the ones you find in the field. In the case of the m60 or > minigun, this is a pretty hefty chunk of ammo and rep, but it's really > worth it. Either guns in the SZ should be loaded or the guns you find > in the field shouldn't be, just for parallel's sake if nothing else. > > Signed: > Dakotah Rickard > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the > list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
yes, and you will tend to find, most games out there try to keep things as real as possible. thats why i bring it up. dallas On 14/12/2011 07:24, Darren Duff wrote: But we aren't talking about real life, or a simulation! We are talking about a game. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dallas O'Brien Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:53 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports but then, as it is, your able to carry all of the kinds of weapons. so in actual fact, in real life, you wouldn't be able to move, cause you couldn't possibly carry around an m60, a volcan, sniper, hunting, and all the others. not possible. so as it is, i think you have enough weapons. dallas On 14/12/2011 02:10, Dakotah Rickard wrote: Ok, the first thing I speak on is the axe bug. I don't know how this works, but if you switch from the axe to something that needs reloading very quickly, say in the heat of battle, and you reload that thing, the axe becomes one ammo for that thing. That's how you lose your axe. Now for something different. Many who know the characters Slade and Liberty will know how hard I try to impress upon people that death, as a part of the game, should involve risk and loss. I firmly hold to that, and I only point out how much it means to me now, because I think that you should regain your starting supply of equipment each time you die. When you start, you get a pistol, eight rounds in your pistol, and a field kit with one medkit loaded. This really isn't much, but it's better than the pistol with eight rounds you get on death. Yeah, people could cheat a little harder and donate stuff and go die again, but if people are going to cheat, they will, and there's technically nothing to do about it in this case. Starting with a little something will prevent the ease of just dying again that many experience on death. Now for the next topic. it once was that Swamp was configured to allow only one weapon of a type to be carried. Before, that made sense, as you only ever needed one weapon, and others would turn into ammo. Now, with the exception of the pistol, which seems so rediculously common that it's worth ten reputation points to donate and everyone gets one no matter what, all the weapons are worth more than their respective ammo. Imagine you get a hunting rifle, or even better an assault rifle. Those are worth a pretty penny, as such things go, in the safe zone. Now, if you should stumble across another one, you won't get it. Instead, you get 40 rounds of 5.56 ammo. Useful, true, but honestly you'd get that anyway, as you find guns fully loaded. I suggest therefore that not only is it good for rep to be able to pick up seconds or thirds and beyond in a type of weapon, but that if your primary breaks, you have a secondary to fall back on. In fact, hitting the number key a number of times might switch to that weapon, so say you have three shotguns, all loaded but the third set to scattershot, you could hit the three key three times and get to your scattershot weapon. Yeah, donating is great, too, but having a backup might be nice. Fally, I suggest that guns you buy from the safe zone should be fully loaded, like the ones you find in the field. In the case of the m60 or minigun, this is a pretty hefty chunk of ammo and rep, but it's really worth it. Either guns in the SZ should be loaded or the guns you find in the field shouldn't be, just for parallel's sake if nothing else. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 6709 (20111213) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6709 (20111213) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to l
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
ahah yeah. something like that. and the m60 is basicly a gpmg, if you know what that is. so again, even a strong man struggles to carry that, and 200 rouns for it. dallas On 14/12/2011 07:52, Johnny Tai wrote: I believe a real minigun alone- the portable one, weighs about 90 LBs all on its lonesome heh- alot of weight even for a strong man. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
this is true to. i to have gotten to the point where i can go for a lute run, and collect enough ammo to blow up half the game if i stockpiled it all. ahahaha. one man army? dallas On 14/12/2011 08:41, Christopher Bartlett wrote: True Darren, but a good game enforces choices, each of which is significant. No choice should be inconsequential and no situation should occur that is not affected by a choice. I don't know about others, but I've now reached the point where death is rare unless I royally screw up or intentionally play a bit madly, and I'd like more challenge that the game presents, rather than artificial constraints I place on myself. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Darren Duff Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:25 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports But we aren't talking about real life, or a simulation! We are talking about a game. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dallas O'Brien Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:53 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports but then, as it is, your able to carry all of the kinds of weapons. so in actual fact, in real life, you wouldn't be able to move, cause you couldn't possibly carry around an m60, a volcan, sniper, hunting, and all the others. not possible. so as it is, i think you have enough weapons. dallas On 14/12/2011 02:10, Dakotah Rickard wrote: Ok, the first thing I speak on is the axe bug. I don't know how this works, but if you switch from the axe to something that needs reloading very quickly, say in the heat of battle, and you reload that thing, the axe becomes one ammo for that thing. That's how you lose your axe. Now for something different. Many who know the characters Slade and Liberty will know how hard I try to impress upon people that death, as a part of the game, should involve risk and loss. I firmly hold to that, and I only point out how much it means to me now, because I think that you should regain your starting supply of equipment each time you die. When you start, you get a pistol, eight rounds in your pistol, and a field kit with one medkit loaded. This really isn't much, but it's better than the pistol with eight rounds you get on death. Yeah, people could cheat a little harder and donate stuff and go die again, but if people are going to cheat, they will, and there's technically nothing to do about it in this case. Starting with a little something will prevent the ease of just dying again that many experience on death. Now for the next topic. it once was that Swamp was configured to allow only one weapon of a type to be carried. Before, that made sense, as you only ever needed one weapon, and others would turn into ammo. Now, with the exception of the pistol, which seems so rediculously common that it's worth ten reputation points to donate and everyone gets one no matter what, all the weapons are worth more than their respective ammo. Imagine you get a hunting rifle, or even better an assault rifle. Those are worth a pretty penny, as such things go, in the safe zone. Now, if you should stumble across another one, you won't get it. Instead, you get 40 rounds of 5.56 ammo. Useful, true, but honestly you'd get that anyway, as you find guns fully loaded. I suggest therefore that not only is it good for rep to be able to pick up seconds or thirds and beyond in a type of weapon, but that if your primary breaks, you have a secondary to fall back on. In fact, hitting the number key a number of times might switch to that weapon, so say you have three shotguns, all loaded but the third set to scattershot, you could hit the three key three times and get to your scattershot weapon. Yeah, donating is great, too, but having a backup might be nice. Fally, I suggest that guns you buy from the safe zone should be fully loaded, like the ones you find in the field. In the case of the m60 or minigun, this is a pretty hefty chunk of ammo and rep, but it's really worth it. Either guns in the SZ should be loaded or the guns you find in the field shouldn't be, just for parallel's sake if nothing else. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
The axe bug is another one I intend to fix, but just haven't had the time yet. When it comes to finding duplicate guns, this was specifically designed as an incentive to adventure out with less than an armful of guns. If you had 1 of every gun, you have absolutely no chance to find another gun which would donate in to a good amount of reputation. If however you donate half of your guns then you have a chance of finding new versions of those guns that will be worth a lot. If you have a favorite gun that you want a backup of, you can always buy a second one at the Safe Zone. That should work in case it is broken by a zombie. > Ok, the first thing I speak on is > the axe bug. I don't know how this > works, but if you switch from the axe to something that > needs > reloading very quickly, say in the heat of battle, and you > reload that > thing, the axe becomes one ammo for that thing. That's how > you lose > your axe. > > Now for something different. Many who know the characters > Slade and > Liberty will know how hard I try to impress upon people > that death, as > a part of the game, should involve risk and loss. I firmly > hold to > that, and I only point out how much it means to me now, > because I > think that you should regain your starting supply of > equipment each > time you die. When you start, you get a pistol, eight > rounds in your > pistol, and a field kit with one medkit loaded. This really > isn't > much, but it's better than the pistol with eight rounds you > get on > death. Yeah, people could cheat a little harder and donate > stuff and > go die again, but if people are going to cheat, they will, > and there's > technically nothing to do about it in this case. Starting > with a > little something will prevent the ease of just dying again > that many > experience on death. > > Now for the next topic. it once was that Swamp was > configured to allow > only one weapon of a type to be carried. Before, that made > sense, as > you only ever needed one weapon, and others would turn into > ammo. Now, > with the exception of the pistol, which seems so > rediculously common > that it's worth ten reputation points to donate and > everyone gets one > no matter what, all the weapons are worth more than their > respective > ammo. Imagine you get a hunting rifle, or even better an > assault > rifle. Those are worth a pretty penny, as such things go, > in the safe > zone. Now, if you should stumble across another one, you > won't get it. > Instead, you get 40 rounds of 5.56 ammo. Useful, true, but > honestly > you'd get that anyway, as you find guns fully loaded. I > suggest > therefore that not only is it good for rep to be able to > pick up > seconds or thirds and beyond in a type of weapon, but that > if your > primary breaks, you have a secondary to fall back on. In > fact, hitting > the number key a number of times might switch to that > weapon, so say > you have three shotguns, all loaded but the third set to > scattershot, > you could hit the three key three times and get to your > scattershot > weapon. Yeah, donating is great, too, but having a backup > might be > nice. > > Fally, I suggest that guns you buy from the safe zone > should be fully > loaded, like the ones you find in the field. In the case of > the m60 or > minigun, this is a pretty hefty chunk of ammo and rep, but > it's really > worth it. Either guns in the SZ should be loaded or the > guns you find > in the field shouldn't be, just for parallel's sake if > nothing else. > > Signed: > Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
Then your lucky. I die quite often if I'm not extremely careful, which means having my scoped rifle out 24/7. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports True Darren, but a good game enforces choices, each of which is significant. No choice should be inconsequential and no situation should occur that is not affected by a choice. I don't know about others, but I've now reached the point where death is rare unless I royally screw up or intentionally play a bit madly, and I'd like more challenge that the game presents, rather than artificial constraints I place on myself. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Darren Duff Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:25 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports But we aren't talking about real life, or a simulation! We are talking about a game. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dallas O'Brien Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:53 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports but then, as it is, your able to carry all of the kinds of weapons. so in actual fact, in real life, you wouldn't be able to move, cause you couldn't possibly carry around an m60, a volcan, sniper, hunting, and all the others. not possible. so as it is, i think you have enough weapons. dallas On 14/12/2011 02:10, Dakotah Rickard wrote: Ok, the first thing I speak on is the axe bug. I don't know how this works, but if you switch from the axe to something that needs reloading very quickly, say in the heat of battle, and you reload that thing, the axe becomes one ammo for that thing. That's how you lose your axe. Now for something different. Many who know the characters Slade and Liberty will know how hard I try to impress upon people that death, as a part of the game, should involve risk and loss. I firmly hold to that, and I only point out how much it means to me now, because I think that you should regain your starting supply of equipment each time you die. When you start, you get a pistol, eight rounds in your pistol, and a field kit with one medkit loaded. This really isn't much, but it's better than the pistol with eight rounds you get on death. Yeah, people could cheat a little harder and donate stuff and go die again, but if people are going to cheat, they will, and there's technically nothing to do about it in this case. Starting with a little something will prevent the ease of just dying again that many experience on death. Now for the next topic. it once was that Swamp was configured to allow only one weapon of a type to be carried. Before, that made sense, as you only ever needed one weapon, and others would turn into ammo. Now, with the exception of the pistol, which seems so rediculously common that it's worth ten reputation points to donate and everyone gets one no matter what, all the weapons are worth more than their respective ammo. Imagine you get a hunting rifle, or even better an assault rifle. Those are worth a pretty penny, as such things go, in the safe zone. Now, if you should stumble across another one, you won't get it. Instead, you get 40 rounds of 5.56 ammo. Useful, true, but honestly you'd get that anyway, as you find guns fully loaded. I suggest therefore that not only is it good for rep to be able to pick up seconds or thirds and beyond in a type of weapon, but that if your primary breaks, you have a secondary to fall back on. In fact, hitting the number key a number of times might switch to that weapon, so say you have three shotguns, all loaded but the third set to scattershot, you could hit the three key three times and get to your scattershot weapon. Yeah, donating is great, too, but having a backup might be nice. Fally, I suggest that guns you buy from the safe zone should be fully loaded, like the ones you find in the field. In the case of the m60 or minigun, this is a pretty hefty chunk of ammo and rep, but it's really worth it. Either guns in the SZ should be loaded or the guns you find in the field shouldn't be, just for parallel's sake if nothing else. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, ple
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
Christopher, I'm hoping that the missions will bring about the much needed challenges our more experienced players are seeking. > True Darren, but a good game enforces > choices, each of which is significant. > No choice should be inconsequential and no situation should > occur that is > not affected by a choice. I don't know about others, > but I've now reached > the point where death is rare unless I royally screw up or > intentionally > play a bit madly, and I'd like more challenge that the game > presents, rather > than artificial constraints I place on myself. > > Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
John, I'm not sure if you're being funny here, or if that's a serious comment. But riffing on it for a moment, there really isn't much in the way of luck in this game. There are skills, direct physical skills aiming, and tactical skills, knowing where I am, evaluating the risks of current opposition v. my position and weapons load, and situational awareness, maintaining enough awareness to know when it's time to fight, which targets to select and when to run like hell. These are all skills that anyone can develop, at least in this format. That being the case, I find it strange when people complain the game is too hard, excepting actual limitations like hearing problems that I understand to place a genuine disadvantage on the player. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
When I say luck, I'm referring to the massive groups of ten or more zombies that I've come *very* close to running into, had it not been for my scope. I was lucky enough to find one early on, and if I hadn't, I would have died several times over. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports John, I'm not sure if you're being funny here, or if that's a serious comment. But riffing on it for a moment, there really isn't much in the way of luck in this game. There are skills, direct physical skills aiming, and tactical skills, knowing where I am, evaluating the risks of current opposition v. my position and weapons load, and situational awareness, maintaining enough awareness to know when it's time to fight, which targets to select and when to run like hell. These are all skills that anyone can develop, at least in this format. That being the case, I find it strange when people complain the game is too hard, excepting actual limitations like hearing problems that I understand to place a genuine disadvantage on the player. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
There is actually a bit of luck wherever random chance is in play, and with the movements of more than fifteen people, plus whatever algorithm controls the zombies when they're not chasing, it's as near to random as can be asked for. I've had runs to the east of the bridge where I literally run into ten zombies over the whole trip. Then I've had runs wherein I walk around a corner to find about thirty waiting for me. That is luck, the luck of the draw, and all the skill and all the guns won't help at all in that situation. As for the concept of sim versus game, I know that, especially lately, it's running into a sort of overlap. Look at games for mainstream audiences like Brink or the more popular Team Fortress 2. These games allow a very limited selection of weapons, usually a primary, maybe a secondary, and melee, all determined by character selection. Since Swamp isn't that type of game, we do run into a little bit of a difficulty making it a simulation, and I have had a hard-won victory over my own realistic nature before this, as I make games and I've had to sacrifice realism for playability and fun. I completely understand and agree with the gun thing, finding more and better guns because you don't carry around everything. It does make sense. The only thing that gets me about it is that you can't really adventure without at least three good firearms. I've gone out happily with pistol, shotgun of some type, and scoped hunting rifle, but it's really quite a challenge. It's easier with some sort of automatic weapon, so I guess it's a matter of choice, but I have to wonder if some of those cases of 7.62 ammo I've picked up were spare m60s. Finally, what about the idea of a gun coming from the safe zone fully loaded? It does kind of make sense. SIgned: Daktah Rickard On 12/14/11, john wrote: > When I say luck, I'm referring to the massive groups of ten or > more zombies that I've come *very* close to running into, had it > not been for my scope. I was lucky enough to find one early on, > and if I hadn't, I would have died several times over. > > - Original Message - > From: "Christopher Bartlett" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Date sent: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:57:34 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and > reports > > John, I'm not sure if you're being funny here, or if that's a > serious > comment. But riffing on it for a moment, there really isn't much > in the way > of luck in this game. There are skills, direct physical skills > aiming, and > tactical skills, knowing where I am, evaluating the risks of > current > opposition v. my position and weapons load, and situational > awareness, > maintaining enough awareness to know when it's time to fight, > which targets > to select and when to run like hell. These are all skills that > anyone can > develop, at least in this format. > > That being the case, I find it strange when people complain the > game is too > hard, excepting actual limitations like hearing problems that I > understand > to place a genuine disadvantage on the player. > > Chris Bartlett > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of > the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
Though not having them loaded is an incentive to get stuff in the field, rather than just accumulate rep until you can by the full weapon. - Original Message - From: Dakotah Rickard Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports There is actually a bit of luck wherever random chance is in play, and with the movements of more than fifteen people, plus whatever algorithm controls the zombies when they're not chasing, it's as near to random as can be asked for. I've had runs to the east of the bridge where I literally run into ten zombies over the whole trip. Then I've had runs wherein I walk around a corner to find about thirty waiting for me. That is luck, the luck of the draw, and all the skill and all the guns won't help at all in that situation. As for the concept of sim versus game, I know that, especially lately, it's running into a sort of overlap. Look at games for mainstream audiences like Brink or the more popular Team Fortress 2. These games allow a very limited selection of weapons, usually a primary, maybe a secondary, and melee, all determined by character selection. Since Swamp isn't that type of game, we do run into a little bit of a difficulty making it a simulation, and I have had a hard-won victory over my own realistic nature before this, as I make games and I've had to sacrifice realism for playability and fun. I completely understand and agree with the gun thing, finding more and better guns because you don't carry around everything. It does make sense. The only thing that gets me about it is that you can't really adventure without at least three good firearms. I've gone out happily with pistol, shotgun of some type, and scoped hunting rifle, but it's really quite a challenge. It's easier with some sort of automatic weapon, so I guess it's a matter of choice, but I have to wonder if some of those cases of 7.62 ammo I've picked up were spare m60s. Finally, what about the idea of a gun coming from the safe zone fully loaded? It does kind of make sense. SIgned: Daktah Rickard On 12/14/11, john wrote: When I say luck, I'm referring to the massive groups of ten or more zombies that I've come *very* close to running into, had it not been for my scope. I was lucky enough to find one early on, and if I hadn't, I would have died several times over. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" comment. But riffing on it for a moment, there really isn't much in the way of luck in this game. There are skills, direct physical skills aiming, and tactical skills, knowing where I am, evaluating the risks of current opposition v. my position and weapons load, and situational awareness, maintaining enough awareness to know when it's time to fight, which targets to select and when to run like hell. These are all skills that anyone can develop, at least in this format. That being the case, I find it strange when people complain the game is too hard, excepting actual limitations like hearing problems that I understand to place a genuine disadvantage on the player. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
Actually, there is a minor luck element to it... rofl I'm thinking of the occasional mouse acting up- keys sticking- like the time I couldn't stop walking- that was before I figured out how to stop it by hitting the key again, and it charged me right into a group with several tyrants in it lol. Also, there was the time I walked into Jennifer's living room and right on the other side of the entrance was a massive group of zombie- I didn't hear a sound from outside, and soon as I stepped through the door, it was like into a meat grinder- I was dead in 2 seconds. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
Worst place for that to happen is the factory, because zombies are confused by that staircase set, so they just kind of collect there, and you don't know if they're there until BANG! You're in the middle of a good truckload. I'm going to ask in this thread if Jeremy, you'll consider making weapons draw them a little more and footsteps a little less. I've literally taken a footstep a second, sneaking around, and they still come toweard me. There must surely be a point at which, if they're not smelling you out, which if they are I'll shut up, that you can sneak by them quietly. Again, that silent movement thing would be pretty awesome there, but that's dependent on putting up a skills tree. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 12/14/11, Johnny Tai wrote: > Actually, there is a minor luck element to it... rofl I'm thinking of the > occasional mouse acting up- keys sticking- like the time I couldn't stop > walking- that was before I figured out how to stop it by hitting the key > again, and it charged me right into a group with several tyrants in it lol. > > Also, there was the time I walked into Jennifer's living room and right on > the other side of the entrance was a massive group of zombie- I didn't hear > a sound from outside, and soon as I stepped through the door, it was like > into a meat grinder- I was dead in 2 seconds. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: a couple of suggestions and reports
Actually I am hoping to solve this problem with some improved zombie AI that's in the works. This will make them considerably more skilled at navigating through buildings so they will be less likely to get stuck in those types of places. Oh yeah, and this answer isn't meant to imply that the skill tree idea isn't being considered, because it is. :D > Worst place for that to happen is the > factory, because zombies are > confused by that staircase set, so they just kind of > collect there, > and you don't know if they're there until BANG! You're in > the middle > of a good truckload. > > I'm going to ask in this thread if Jeremy, you'll consider > making > weapons draw them a little more and footsteps a little > less. I've > literally taken a footstep a second, sneaking around, and > they still > come toweard me. There must surely be a point at which, if > they're not > smelling you out, which if they are I'll shut up, that you > can sneak > by them quietly. Again, that silent movement thing would be > pretty > awesome there, but that's dependent on putting up a skills > tree. > > Signed: > Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
