[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press]
"We let one slip by against Florida, but we've put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity," guard Vladimir Richard said. "If we would have just corrected a few things, we'd have won the game. So now we're like, 'Let's not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing." So what exactly is in that Tenn kool-aid? Original Message Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team thanFlorida [A.P. / Associated Press]From: Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.comDate: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:45 amTo: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida Doug Finger/Staff photographer Buy photo Vols coach Lane Kiffin said Alabama is a more complete team than Florida. The Associated Press Published: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. Last Modified: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin says the AP Top 25 has it right — Alabama, not Florida, is the No. 1 team in the nation. He’s practically an expert. By vaulting over the Gators into the top spot in The Associated Press poll, the Crimson Tide set up the Vols’ second game against the No. 1 team in the nation this season. “I think one poll got it right,” Kiffin said. “If you watch football and pay attention, I don’t think there’s any doubt who the No. 1 team is. Alabama has a great team — very well-coached, extremely talented, great special teams, great on offense, great on defense.” The Gators are ranked second in the AP Top 25 but first in the USA Today coaches’ poll and Bowl Championship Series standings. Kiffin said it’s hard to draw many comparisons between the two teams besides talent. Alabama favors size, Florida relies on speed. He said the Crimson Tide (7-0, 4-0 Southeastern Conference) is a more complete team and says the teams’ games against Arkansas reveals Alabama’s strength. The Tide beat the Razorbacks 35-7 on Sept. 26 and the Gators narrowly beat Arkansas 23-20 on Saturday. “While they’re both great teams, one team kind of beats you in all three phases: Alabama,” Kiffin said. “The other team will beat you at times but then a lot of times nobody’s open and the quarterback runs around, makes the play. These guys are much more balanced.” The Vols (3-3, 1-2) lost 23-13 at Florida Sept. 19, when the Gators were No. 1. The fact that Tennessee was competitive when much of the football world predicted a Florida blowout coupled with a big win over Georgia in its last game, gives some Vols players hope. “We let one slip by against Florida, but we’ve put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity,” guard Vladimir Richard said. “If we would have just corrected a few things, we’d have won the game. So now we’re like, ’Let’s not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing.” A win by the Vols could mean redemption on several levels. It would be Tennessee’s third all-time win over the top team and would snap a two-game losing skid against its biggest traditional rival. Tennessee is the first team to play No. 1 twice in the same season since Baylor in 2000, when the Bears lost to Nebraska 59-0 and Oklahoma 56-7. In 1992, Arizona beat No. 1 Washington 16-3 (Nov. 7) after losing to No. 1 Miami 8-7 (Sept. 26). For Alabama coach Nick Saban and the Crimson Tide, the ranking doesn’t really mean anything, though. “Nothing’s really changed for our guys. I mean, what does it matter? What’s changed? What’s changed from this week, from this Monday to last Monday?” Saban said. Before this season, the Vols hadn’t played a No. 1 team since losing at home to Miami 26-3 in their 2002 homecoming game. They’ve twice lost to Alabama when it was No. 1. Tennessee has upset only two of the nine top teams it’s faced. An unranked Vols squad beat Auburn 38-20 in 1985, and 13th-ranked Tennessee beat LSU 14-13 in 1959. It was the chance to add to that list of upsets that was among the reasons defensive tackle Wes Brown, an Athens, Ala., native chose to attend Tennessee. “This is what you want. This is what you come to Tennessee for. You want to play in the big games,” he said. “No offense to the smaller schools we’ve played, but you come to Tennessee to play a No. 1 team and with a great rivalry like this, you couldn’t ask for much more.” --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] SEC Reminds teams about artificial noise
No visor-throwing. Spurrier has been trying not to throw his visor, which he was famous for doing on occasion at Florida. But he was reminded that he did that after the Kentucky game. I did throw my headset and visor off one time, Spurrier said. I try not to do that. I don't like to act upset on the sideline. I tried to remain calm the last game. The way some of our players play, it's gonna happen. We live with it, and try to bounce back and go from there. I watched this game and it was obvious that the Spur was having trouble keeping it under control. He could see that all his players needed to do was execute a wide-open play and they could have won that game. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Helen Huntley hhsga...@gmail.com To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:04:12 AM Subject: [gatornews] SEC Reminds teams about artificial noise Crowd noise an issue for SEC League reminds teams about using 'artificial noise' after Alabama plays AC/DC Written by JOSEPH PERSON and SETH EMERSON jper...@thestate.com and semer...@thestate.com Posted on 10.21.09 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press]
Keith, this is Mr. Jack Daniels. Mr. Jack Daniels, this is Keith. Nice to meet you. ;_) From: ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com To: gatortalk googlegroups Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:50:30 AM Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] We let one slip by against Florida, but we've put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity, guard Vladimir Richard said. If we would have just corrected a few things, we'd have won the game. So now we're like, 'Let's not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing. So what exactly is in that Tenn kool-aid? Original Message Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:45 am To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida Doug Finger/Staff photographer Buy photo Vols coach Lane Kiffin said Alabama is a more complete team than Florida. The Associated Press Published: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. Last Modified: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin says the AP Top 25 has it right — Alabama, not Florida, is the No. 1 team in the nation. He’s practically an expert. By vaulting over the Gators into the top spot in The Associated Press poll, the Crimson Tide set up the Vols’ second game against the No. 1 team in the nation this season. “I think one poll got it right,” Kiffin said. “If you watch football and pay attention, I don’t think there’s any doubt who the No. 1 team is. Alabama has a great team — very well-coached, extremely talented, great special teams, great on offense, great on defense.” The Gators are ranked second in the AP Top 25 but first in the USA Today coaches’ poll and Bowl Championship Series standings. Kiffin said it’s hard to draw many comparisons between the two teams besides talent. Alabama favors size, Florida relies on speed. He said the Crimson Tide (7-0, 4-0 Southeastern Conference) is a more complete team and says the teams’ games against Arkansas reveals Alabama’s strength. The Tide beat the Razorbacks 35-7 on Sept. 26 and the Gators narrowly beat Arkansas 23-20 on Saturday. “While they’re both great teams, one team kind of beats you in all three phases: Alabama,” Kiffin said. “The other team will beat you at times but then a lot of times nobody’s open and the quarterback runs around, makes the play. These guys are much more balanced.” The Vols (3-3, 1-2) lost 23-13 at Florida Sept. 19, when the Gators were No. 1. The fact that Tennessee was competitive when much of the football world predicted a Florida blowout coupled with a big win over Georgia in its last game, gives some Vols players hope. “We let one slip by against Florida, but we’ve put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity,” guard Vladimir Richard said. “If we would have just corrected a few things, we’d have won the game. So now we’re like, ’Let’s not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing.” A win by the Vols could mean redemption on several levels. It would be Tennessee’s third all-time win over the top team and would snap a two-game losing skid against its biggest traditional rival. Tennessee is the first team to play No. 1 twice in the same season since Baylor in 2000, when the Bears lost to Nebraska 59-0 and Oklahoma 56-7. In 1992, Arizona beat No. 1 Washington 16-3 (Nov. 7) after losing to No. 1 Miami 8-7 (Sept. 26). For Alabama coach Nick Saban and the Crimson Tide, the ranking doesn’t really mean anything, though. “Nothing’s really changed for our guys. I mean, what does it matter? What’s changed? What’s changed from this week, from this Monday to last Monday?” Saban said. Before this season, the Vols hadn’t played a No. 1 team since losing at home to Miami 26-3 in their 2002 homecoming game. They’ve twice lost to Alabama when it was No. 1. Tennessee has upset only two of the nine top teams it’s faced. An unranked Vols squad beat Auburn 38-20 in 1985, and 13th-ranked Tennessee beat LSU 14-13 in 1959. It was the chance to add to that list of upsets that was among the reasons defensive tackle Wes Brown, an Athens, Ala., native chose to attend Tennessee. “This is what you want. This is what you come to Tennessee for. You want to play in the big games,” he said. “No offense to the smaller schools we’ve played, but you come to Tennessee to play a No. 1 team and with a great rivalry like this, you couldn’t ask for much more.” --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions |
[gatortalk] Just win
A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? As I drove back from Orlando yesterday... I thought about what that mindset really means and why Meyer would be pushing that... and perhaps I have thought too far into this but this is what I came up with... - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? - Do only what we have to to win.. stay healthy/injury free... and for the most part .. fresh - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... - just win because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive. Maybe he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up? He's obviously a power run OC... he's said it before... so does that mean we're not gonna see much of a passing attack that UF fans have become so accustomed too? If thats the case.. if he's also the OL guy... why hasnt Demps/Rainey/Moody/James, etc etc had a more productive year against our better opponents? I get what we were tryin to do against LSU... dive play dive play dive play run it right at em and control the clock. We saw a lil more passing in the first half vs Arky... but then we had a hard time holding on to the ball. Had it not been for the turnovers... I think that game would have easily been 30-10. Gotta give Arky credit though... they are much improved over the year. look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure thats the case at all... i think everyone of us would accept a win... but I do think this mentality of just go in and get out with a win may be the wrong mindset. I think it also shows that Meyer doesnt have that much confidence in this team or someone that is keeping them from being a dominant figure. Again.. maybe im thinking too far into it all... but right now.. Miss St game is scaring the hell outta me. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
The problem is - what we expect, what wesee versus the reality What we expect to see is the best team in the history of college football. Completely dominating at all times on offense, defense, and special teams. What we've seen on offense (in SEC play) is Tebow left, Tebow right, Tebow throw (half of them dropped), tebow up the middle, hand off to Rainey or Demps (great run if past linebackers or loss of yardage). Our defense has beendominating - minus a handful of plays I think our special teams has one blocked punt in SEC play - short of what most expected. Plus we are losing the turnover margin. Regarding the reality -if you never saw the Gators play, saw that UF was undefeated, believed that the SEC was the best conference in college football, and saw that the Gators were leading most team stats in teh SEC - you would think - wow - UF must be the best team in college football. Maybe old crutches - Tebow and Adazio running the ball - are too much to overcome. Once you learn to lean on them - you can't wean yourself off of them. We can probably win out regular season playing like we are. But can we win the SEC CG and BCS CG playing like this? I think they are likely to fix some of these problems over next summer. But is it likely to improve during the season? Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] "Just win"From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.comDate: Wed, October 21, 2009 10:01 amTo: Gatortalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.com A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? As I drove back from Orlando yesterday... I thought about what that mindset really means and why Meyer would be pushing that... and perhaps I have thought too far into this but this is what I came up with... - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? - Do only what we have to to win.. stay healthy/injury free... and for the most part .. fresh - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. - "just win" because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... - "just win" because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive. Maybe he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up? He's obviously a power run OC... he's said it before... so does that mean we're not gonna see much of a passing attack that UF fans have become so accustomed too? If thats the case.. if he's also the OL guy... why hasnt Demps/Rainey/Moody/James, etc etc had a more productive year against our better opponents? I get what we were tryin to do against LSU... dive play dive play dive play run it right at em and control the clock. We saw a lil more passing in the first half vs Arky... but then we had a hard time holding on to the ball. Had it not been for the turnovers... I think that game would have easily been 30-10. Gotta give Arky credit though... they are much improved over the year. look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure thats the case at all... i think everyone of us would accept a win... but I do think this mentality of "just go in and get out with a win" may be the wrong mindset. I think it also shows that Meyer doesnt have that much confidence in this team or someone that is keeping them from being a dominant figure. Again.. maybe im thinking too far into it all... but right now.. Miss St game is scaring the hell outta me. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
And...it should. It's an SEC game, it's at their house and we haven't won there in over 20 years. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com To: Gatortalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:01:15 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Just win clip look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure thats the case at all... i think everyone of us would accept a win... but I do think this mentality of just go in and get out with a win may be the wrong mindset. I think it also shows that Meyer doesnt have that much confidence in this team or someone that is keeping them from being a dominant figure. Again.. maybe im thinking too far into it all... but right now.. Miss St game is scaring the hell outta me. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
Of course it will. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:28:59 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win clip I think they are likely to fix some of these problems over next summer. But is it likely to improve during the season? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
--- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we just win out, we'll get to decide the BCS semi-final on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the as good of a team as we thought part means as good as those hyper inflated best team ever expectations. - just win because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive. Maybe he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up? While he's the OC, our plays are scripted called, and reviewed by committee and Meyer has the final say. Not saying the old OL coach doesn't like to give his hosses the opportunity to play smashmouth, but I think if anyone is reigning in the playcalling, it's probably Meyer. look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure thats the case at all... i think everyone of us would accept a win... but I do think this mentality of just go in and get out with a win may be the wrong mindset. I think it also shows that Meyer doesnt have that much confidence in this team or someone that is keeping them from being a dominant figure. Last year we were very good at not turing the ball over and also very good at taking it away. That gave our offense a lot of short fields (and in many cases defensive scores) that allowed our naturally conservative coaches to loosen up a bit. This year, so far at least, we are minus in the turnover column, and therefore are looking at longer fields in tighter games, so the conservative nature shines through. If we'll start getting some timely turnovers, or more importantly, stop giving them away I think you'll feel a lot better about the scoreboard. Again.. maybe im thinking too far into it allA long drive after a tight game will do that! ... but right now.. Miss St game is scaring the hell outta me. Until proven otherwise, the only game on our schedule that I don't think we can possibly lose is FIU. By the same token, despite all of our current watrs, we're capable of, and in fact, SHOULD be able to win all of them! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press]
Kiffin is ready for another moral victory...but this one, in his opinion is going to bring a bit more morale than the UF game :-))) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:09 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: Steve Spurrier and Bourbon whiskey are the only good things - I know of - to come out of Tenn. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.net Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:58 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Keith, this is Mr. Jack Daniels. Mr. Jack Daniels, this is Keith. Nice to meet you. ;_) -- *From:*ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com *To:*gatortalk googlegroups Gatortalk@googlegroups.com *Sent:*Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:50:30 AM *Subject:*[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] We let one slip by against Florida, but we've put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity, guard Vladimir Richard said. If we would have just corrected a few things, we'd have won the game. So now we're like, 'Let's not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing. So what exactly is in that Tenn kool-aid? Original Message Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:45 am To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida Doug Finger/Staff photographer *Buy photohttp://reprints.gainesville.com/cgi-bin/fotobroker.cgi?c=latest.htma=op_by_line=containsby_line=Fingerb=photo_dbs=t=show=3-4 * Vols coach Lane Kiffin said Alabama is a more complete team than Florida. The Associated Press Published: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. Last Modified: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin says the AP Top 25 has it right — Alabama, not Florida, is the No. 1 team in the nation. He’s practically an expert. By vaulting over the Gators into the top spot in The Associated Press poll, the Crimson Tide set up the Vols’ second game against the No. 1 team in the nation this season. “I think one poll got it right,” Kiffin said. “If you watch football and pay attention, I don’t think there’s any doubt who the No. 1 team is. Alabama has a great team — very well-coached, extremely talented, great special teams, great on offense, great on defense.” The Gators are ranked second in the AP Top 25 but first in the USA Today coaches’ poll and Bowl Championship Series standings. Kiffin said it’s hard to draw many comparisons between the two teams besides talent. Alabama favors size, Florida relies on speed. He said the Crimson Tide (7-0, 4-0 Southeastern Conference) is a more complete team and says the teams’ games against Arkansas reveals Alabama’s strength. The Tide beat the Razorbacks 35-7 on Sept. 26 and the Gators narrowly beat Arkansas 23-20 on Saturday. “While they’re both great teams, one team kind of beats you in all three phases: Alabama,” Kiffin said. “The other team will beat you at times but then a lot of times nobody’s open and the quarterback runs around, makes the play. These guys are much more balanced.” The Vols (3-3, 1-2) lost 23-13 at Florida Sept. 19, when the Gators were No. 1. The fact that Tennessee was competitive when much of the football world predicted a Florida blowout coupled with a big win over Georgia in its last game, gives some Vols players hope. “We let one slip by against Florida, but we’ve put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity,” guard Vladimir Richard said. “If we would have just corrected a few things, we’d have won the game. So now we’re like, ’Let’s not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing.” A win by the Vols could mean redemption on several levels. It would be Tennessee’s third all-time win over the top team and would snap a two-game losing skid against its biggest traditional rival. Tennessee is the first team to play No. 1 twice in the same season since Baylor in 2000, when the Bears lost to Nebraska 59-0 and Oklahoma 56-7. In 1992, Arizona beat No. 1 Washington 16-3 (Nov. 7) after losing to No. 1 Miami 8-7 (Sept. 26). For Alabama coach Nick Saban and the Crimson Tide, the ranking doesn’t really mean anything, though. “Nothing’s really changed for our guys. I mean, what does it matter? What’s changed? What’s changed from this week, from this Monday to last Monday?” Saban said. Before this season, the Vols hadn’t played a No. 1 team since losing at home to Miami 26-3 in their 2002 homecoming game. They’ve twice lost to Alabama when it was No. 1. Tennessee has upset only two of the nine top teams it’s faced. An unranked Vols squad beat Auburn 38-20 in 1985, and 13th-ranked Tennessee beat LSU 14-13 in 1959. It
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better teamthan Florida [A.P. / Associated Press]
He's just setting everyone up for the UT loss this week. The ut fans are really expecting them to beat Bammy. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Badrish Davanagere dbadr...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:50:17 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] Kiffin is ready for another moral victory...but this one, in his opinion is going to bring a bit more morale than the UF game :-))) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:09 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: Steve Spurrier and Bourbon whiskey are the only good things - I know of - to come out of Tenn. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.net Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:58 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Keith, this is Mr. Jack Daniels. Mr. Jack Daniels, this is Keith. Nice to meet you. ;_) -- *From:*ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com *To:*gatortalk googlegroups Gatortalk@googlegroups.com *Sent:*Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:50:30 AM *Subject:*[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] We let one slip by against Florida, but we've put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity, guard Vladimir Richard said. If we would have just corrected a few things, we'd have won the game. So now we're like, 'Let's not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing. So what exactly is in that Tenn kool-aid? Original Message Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:45 am To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida Doug Finger/Staff photographer *Buy photohttp://reprints.gainesville.com/cgi-bin/fotobroker.cgi?c=latest.htma=op_by_line=containsby_line=Fingerb=photo_dbs=t=show=3-4 * Vols coach Lane Kiffin said Alabama is a more complete team than Florida. The Associated Press Published: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. Last Modified: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin says the AP Top 25 has it right — Alabama, not Florida, is the No. 1 team in the nation. He’s practically an expert. By vaulting over the Gators into the top spot in The Associated Press poll, the Crimson Tide set up the Vols’ second game against the No. 1 team in the nation this season. “I think one poll got it right,” Kiffin said. “If you watch football and pay attention, I don’t think there’s any doubt who the No. 1 team is. Alabama has a great team — very well-coached, extremely talented, great special teams, great on offense, great on defense.” The Gators are ranked second in the AP Top 25 but first in the USA Today coaches’ poll and Bowl Championship Series standings. Kiffin said it’s hard to draw many comparisons between the two teams besides talent. Alabama favors size, Florida relies on speed. He said the Crimson Tide (7-0, 4-0 Southeastern Conference) is a more complete team and says the teams’ games against Arkansas reveals Alabama’s strength. The Tide beat the Razorbacks 35-7 on Sept. 26 and the Gators narrowly beat Arkansas 23-20 on Saturday. “While they’re both great teams, one team kind of beats you in all three phases: Alabama,” Kiffin said. “The other team will beat you at times but then a lot of times nobody’s open and the quarterback runs around, makes the play. These guys are much more balanced.” The Vols (3-3, 1-2) lost 23-13 at Florida Sept. 19, when the Gators were No. 1. The fact that Tennessee was competitive when much of the football world predicted a Florida blowout coupled with a big win over Georgia in its last game, gives some Vols players hope. “We let one slip by against Florida, but we’ve put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity,” guard Vladimir Richard said. “If we would have just corrected a few things, we’d have won the game. So now we’re like, ’Let’s not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing.” A win by the Vols could mean redemption on several levels. It would be Tennessee’s third all-time win over the top team and would snap a two-game losing skid against its biggest traditional rival. Tennessee is the first team to play No. 1 twice in the same season since Baylor in 2000, when the Bears lost to Nebraska 59-0 and Oklahoma 56-7. In 1992, Arizona beat No. 1 Washington 16-3 (Nov. 7) after losing to No. 1 Miami 8-7 (Sept. 26). For Alabama coach Nick Saban and the Crimson Tide, the ranking doesn’t really mean anything, though. “Nothing’s really changed for our guys. I mean, what does it matter? What’s changed? What’s
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better teamthan Florida [A.P. / Associated Press]
He's a punk and respect I have for tenn and the simokey faithful os waining...if my vol fans continue to gove me crap...I'm spraypainting their kids blue and orange and seeing in their gas tank...kiffin os a gutless punk...he's doing his little verbal jab to excire the fans...but he's digging a hole...one day he can lay in it...like uga is... Go Gators !!! Bill -Original Message- From: Badrish Davanagere dbadr...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:50:17 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] Kiffin is ready for another moral victory...but this one, in his opinion is going to bring a bit more morale than the UF game :-))) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:09 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: Steve Spurrier and Bourbon whiskey are the only good things - I know of - to come out of Tenn. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.net Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:58 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Keith, this is Mr. Jack Daniels. Mr. Jack Daniels, this is Keith. Nice to meet you. ;_) -- *From:*ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com *To:*gatortalk googlegroups Gatortalk@googlegroups.com *Sent:*Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:50:30 AM *Subject:*[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] We let one slip by against Florida, but we've put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity, guard Vladimir Richard said. If we would have just corrected a few things, we'd have won the game. So now we're like, 'Let's not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing. So what exactly is in that Tenn kool-aid? Original Message Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:45 am To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida Doug Finger/Staff photographer *Buy photohttp://reprints.gainesville.com/cgi-bin/fotobroker.cgi?c=latest.htma=op_by_line=containsby_line=Fingerb=photo_dbs=t=show=3-4 * Vols coach Lane Kiffin said Alabama is a more complete team than Florida. The Associated Press Published: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. Last Modified: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin says the AP Top 25 has it right — Alabama, not Florida, is the No. 1 team in the nation. He’s practically an expert. By vaulting over the Gators into the top spot in The Associated Press poll, the Crimson Tide set up the Vols’ second game against the No. 1 team in the nation this season. “I think one poll got it right,” Kiffin said. “If you watch football and pay attention, I don’t think there’s any doubt who the No. 1 team is. Alabama has a great team — very well-coached, extremely talented, great special teams, great on offense, great on defense.” The Gators are ranked second in the AP Top 25 but first in the USA Today coaches’ poll and Bowl Championship Series standings. Kiffin said it’s hard to draw many comparisons between the two teams besides talent. Alabama favors size, Florida relies on speed. He said the Crimson Tide (7-0, 4-0 Southeastern Conference) is a more complete team and says the teams’ games against Arkansas reveals Alabama’s strength. The Tide beat the Razorbacks 35-7 on Sept. 26 and the Gators narrowly beat Arkansas 23-20 on Saturday. “While they’re both great teams, one team kind of beats you in all three phases: Alabama,” Kiffin said. “The other team will beat you at times but then a lot of times nobody’s open and the quarterback runs around, makes the play. These guys are much more balanced.” The Vols (3-3, 1-2) lost 23-13 at Florida Sept. 19, when the Gators were No. 1. The fact that Tennessee was competitive when much of the football world predicted a Florida blowout coupled with a big win over Georgia in its last game, gives some Vols players hope. “We let one slip by against Florida, but we’ve put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity,” guard Vladimir Richard said. “If we would have just corrected a few things, we’d have won the game. So now we’re like, ’Let’s not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing.” A win by the Vols could mean redemption on several levels. It would be Tennessee’s third all-time win over the top team and would snap a two-game losing skid against its biggest traditional rival. Tennessee is the first team to play No. 1 twice in the same season since Baylor in 2000, when the Bears lost to Nebraska 59-0 and Oklahoma 56-7. In 1992, Arizona beat No. 1 Washington 16-3 (Nov. 7) after losing to No. 1 Miami 8-7
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better teamthan Florida [A.P. / Associated Press]
Bill...you're either having a stroke or need to get off the sauce. I agree, I think. Kiffin and UT sucketh. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Bill Hood mrgator...@tampabay.rr.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:09:54 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better teamthan Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] He's a punk and respect I have for tenn and the simokey faithful os waining...if my vol fans continue to gove me crap...I'm spraypainting their kids blue and orange and seeing in their gas tank...kiffin os a gutless punk...he's doing his little verbal jab to excire the fans...but he's digging a hole...one day he can lay in it...like uga is... Go Gators !!! Bill From: Badrish Davanagere dbadr...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:50:17 -0400 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] Kiffin is ready for another moral victory...but this one, in his opinion is going to bring a bit more morale than the UF game :-))) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:09 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: Steve Spurrier and Bourbon whiskey are the only good things - I know of - to come out of Tenn. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.net Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:58 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Keith, this is Mr. Jack Daniels. Mr. Jack Daniels, this is Keith. Nice to meet you. ;_) From:ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com To:gatortalk googlegroups Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent:Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:50:30 AM Subject:[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] We let one slip by against Florida, but we've put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity, guard Vladimir Richard said. If we would have just corrected a few things, we'd have won the game. So now we're like, 'Let's not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing. So what exactly is in that Tenn kool-aid? Original Message Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:45 am To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida Doug Finger/Staff photographer Buy photo Vols coach Lane Kiffin said Alabama is a more complete team than Florida. The Associated Press Published: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. Last Modified: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin says the AP Top 25 has it right — Alabama, not Florida, is the No. 1 team in the nation. He’s practically an expert. By vaulting over the Gators into the top spot in The Associated Press poll, the Crimson Tide set up the Vols’ second game against the No. 1 team in the nation this season. “I think one poll got it right,” Kiffin said. “If you watch football and pay attention, I don’t think there’s any doubt who the No. 1 team is. Alabama has a great team — very well-coached, extremely talented, great special teams, great on offense, great on defense.” The Gators are ranked second in the AP Top 25 but first in the USA Today coaches’ poll and Bowl Championship Series standings. Kiffin said it’s hard to draw many comparisons between the two teams besides talent. Alabama favors size, Florida relies on speed. He said the Crimson Tide (7-0, 4-0 Southeastern Conference) is a more complete team and says the teams’ games against Arkansas reveals Alabama’s strength. The Tide beat the Razorbacks 35-7 on Sept. 26 and the Gators narrowly beat Arkansas 23-20 on Saturday. “While they’re both great teams, one team kind of beats you in all three phases: Alabama,” Kiffin said. “The other team will beat you at times but then a lot of times nobody’s open and the quarterback runs around, makes the play. These guys are much more balanced.” The Vols (3-3, 1-2) lost 23-13 at Florida Sept. 19, when the Gators were No. 1. The fact that Tennessee was competitive when much of the football world predicted a Florida blowout coupled with a big win over Georgia in its last game, gives some Vols players hope. “We let one slip by against Florida, but we’ve put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity,” guard Vladimir Richard said. “If we would have just corrected a few things, we’d have won the game. So now we’re like, ’Let’s not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing.” A win by the Vols could mean redemption on several levels. It would be Tennessee’s third all-time win over the top team and
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And Corey Brewer... --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Wanda Barry g8...@comcast.net wrote: Hey Keith, Jack Daniels isn't Bourbon, it's actually labled as Tennessee Sour Mash Whiskey. Bourbon is from Kentucky!! But you're right...Steve Spurrier and Sour Mash whiskey (and my daughters Erin and Shannon) are the only good things to come out of Tennessee. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
Has the D had a TD this year? I would be surprised if they didnt... but I dont recall one. Woody On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net wrote: If Tebow doesn't fumble on the 2 against UT, we are up 31-6 and win going away. If Cooper doesn't drop a TD bomb last week and we don't fumble twice and miss a field goal, we win going away. We have to force teams to throw to force turnovers and right now they are staying close (or leading) by playing ball control. Stop making mistakes and start opening up the offense a bit and everyone will start talking about how we have finally gotten into our rhythm. *Ken K* *MNGator* -- *From:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *oli...@bobparks.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:57 AM *To:* Gator Talk *Subject:* [gatortalk] Re: Just win We're really playing pretty much like we have every season since Meyer has been at UF. Although we may be a bit more conservative than usual we're doing what we do in the beginning of the season. By the end, when we get to Alabama, I suspect the offense will gel into the machine it is capable of being. And the defense, there's no worry there. I know, they have a 1 quarter let down. Take that away and they've allowed 3 touchdowns for the season. As I mentioned earlier, let's let Bammy carry that AP albatross awhile. Maybe we'll loosen up a little more and have the big finish to the season we've come to expect. Steve is right. The big blowouts are fan generated expectations. Yes, a win is a win. Let's enjoy the ride. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From: *Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:31 -0700 (PDT) *To: *gatortalk@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[gatortalk] Re: Just win --- On *Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com* wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we just win out, we'll get to decide the BCS semi-final on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the as good of a team as we thought part means as good as those hyper inflated best team ever expectations. - just win because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive. Maybe he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up? While he's the OC, our plays are scripted called, and reviewed by committee and Meyer has the final say. Not saying the old OL coach doesn't like to give his hosses the opportunity to play smashmouth, but I think if anyone is reigning in the playcalling, it's probably Meyer. look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure thats the case at all... i think everyone of us would accept a win... but I do think this mentality of just go in and get out with a win may be the wrong mindset. I think it also shows that Meyer doesnt have that much confidence in this team or someone that is keeping them from being a dominant figure. Last year we were very good at not turing the ball over and also very good at taking it away. That gave our offense a lot of short fields (and in many cases defensive scores) that allowed our naturally conservative coaches to loosen up a bit. This year, so far at least, we are minus in the turnover column, and therefore
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press]
I was counting on the Tenn - Georgia game being another moral victory and Georgia blew that. I don't want Tenn to be bowl eligible. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is abetter team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press]From: Badrish Davanagere dbadr...@gmail.comDate: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:50 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comKiffin is ready for another moral victory...but this one, in his opinion is going to bring a bit more morale than the UF game :-))) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:09 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: Steve Spurrier and Bourbon whiskey are the only good things - I know of - to come out of Tenn. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is abetter team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.netDate: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:58 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Keith, this is Mr. Jack Daniels. Mr. Jack Daniels, this is Keith. Nice to meet you. ;_) From:"ke...@baldwinnc.com" ke...@baldwinnc.comTo:gatortalk googlegroups Gatortalk@googlegroups.comSent:Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:50:30 AMSubject:[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] "We let one slip by against Florida, but we've put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity," guard Vladimir Richard said. "If we would have just corrected a few things, we'd have won the game. So now we're like, 'Let's not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing." So what exactly is in that Tenn kool-aid? Original Message Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team thanFlorida [A.P. / Associated Press]From: Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.comDate: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:45 amTo: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida Doug Finger/Staff photographer Buy photo Vols coach Lane Kiffin said Alabama is a more complete team than Florida. The Associated Press Published: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. Last Modified: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin says the AP Top 25 has it right — Alabama, not Florida, is the No. 1 team in the nation. He’s practically an expert. By vaulting over the Gators into the top spot in The Associated Press poll, the Crimson Tide set up the Vols’ second game against the No. 1 team in the nation this season. “I think one poll got it right,” Kiffin said. “If you watch football and pay attention, I don’t think there’s any doubt who the No. 1 team is. Alabama has a great team — very well-coached, extremely talented, great special teams, great on offense, great on defense.” The Gators are ranked second in the AP Top 25 but first in the USA Today coaches’ poll and Bowl Championship Series standings. Kiffin said it’s hard to draw many comparisons between the two teams besides talent. Alabama favors size, Florida relies on speed. He said the Crimson Tide (7-0, 4-0 Southeastern Conference) is a more complete team and says the teams’ games against Arkansas reveals Alabama’s strength. The Tide beat the Razorbacks 35-7 on Sept. 26 and the Gators narrowly beat Arkansas 23-20 on Saturday. “While they’re both great teams, one team kind of beats you in all three phases: Alabama,” Kiffin said. “The other team will beat you at times but then a lot of times nobody’s open and the quarterback runs around, makes the play. These guys are much more balanced.” The Vols (3-3, 1-2) lost 23-13 at Florida Sept. 19, when the Gators were No. 1. The fact that Tennessee was competitive when much of the football world predicted a Florida blowout coupled with a big win over Georgia in its last game, gives some Vols players hope. “We let one slip by against Florida, but we’ve put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity,” guard Vladimir Richard said. “If we would have just corrected a few things, we’d have won the game. So now we’re like, ’Let’s not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing.” A win by the Vols could mean redemption on several levels. It would be Tennessee’s third all-time win over the top team and would snap a two-game losing skid against its biggest traditional rival. Tennessee is the first team to play No. 1 twice in the same season since Baylor in 2000, when the Bears lost to Nebraska 59-0 and Oklahoma 56-7. In 1992, Arizona beat No. 1 Washington 16-3 (Nov. 7) after losing to No. 1 Miami 8-7 (Sept. 26). For Alabama coach Nick Saban and the Crimson Tide, the ranking doesn’t really mean anything, though. “Nothing’s really changed for our guys. I mean, what does it matter? What’s changed? What’s changed from this week, from this Monday to last Monday?” Saban said. Before this season, the Vols hadn’t played a No. 1 team since losing at home to Miami 26-3 in their 2002 homecoming game. They’ve twice lost to Alabama when it was No. 1. Tennessee has upset only two of
FW: [gatortalk] Re: Just win
Couldn't agree more. Fewer mistakes on our part and both of those games are blowouts. When we get it together, Bama will have their hands full. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Kirkley Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:26 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win If Tebow doesn't fumble on the 2 against UT, we are up 31-6 and win going away. If Cooper doesn't drop a TD bomb last week and we don't fumble twice and miss a field goal, we win going away. We have to force teams to throw to force turnovers and right now they are staying close (or leading) by playing ball control. Stop making mistakes and start opening up the offense a bit and everyone will start talking about how we have finally gotten into our rhythm. Ken K MNGator From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:57 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win We're really playing pretty much like we have every season since Meyer has been at UF. Although we may be a bit more conservative than usual we're doing what we do in the beginning of the season. By the end, when we get to Alabama, I suspect the offense will gel into the machine it is capable of being. And the defense, there's no worry there. I know, they have a 1 quarter let down. Take that away and they've allowed 3 touchdowns for the season. As I mentioned earlier, let's let Bammy carry that AP albatross awhile. Maybe we'll loosen up a little more and have the big finish to the season we've come to expect. Steve is right. The big blowouts are fan generated expectations. Yes, a win is a win. Let's enjoy the ride. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:31 -0700 (PDT) To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we just win out, we'll get to decide the BCS semi-final on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the as good of a team as we thought part means as good as those hyper inflated best team ever expectations. - just win because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive. Maybe he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up? While he's the OC, our plays are scripted called, and reviewed by committee and Meyer has the final say. Not saying the old OL coach doesn't like to give his hosses the opportunity to play smashmouth, but I think if anyone is reigning in the playcalling, it's probably Meyer. look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure thats the case at all... i think everyone of us would accept a win... but I do think this mentality of just go in and get out with a win may be the wrong mindset. I think it also shows that Meyer doesnt have that much confidence in this team or someone that is keeping them from being a dominant figure. Last year we were very good at not turing the ball over and also very good at taking it away. That gave our offense a lot of short fields (and in many cases defensive scores) that
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
Not one that I can recall either. --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: Has the D had a TD this year? I would be surprised if they didnt... but I dont recall one. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
That's exactly right. And, it comes as we get further into the season. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:25:40 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win If Tebow doesn't fumble on the 2 against UT, we are up 31-6 and win going away. If Cooper doesn't drop a TD bomb last week and we don't fumble twice and miss a field goal, we win going away. We have to force teams to throw to force turnovers and right now they are staying close (or leading) by playing ball control. Stop making mistakes and start opening up the offense a bit and everyone will start talking about how we have finally gotten into our rhythm. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:57 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win We're really playing pretty much like we have every season since Meyer has been at UF. Although we may be a bit more conservative than usual we're doing what we do in the beginning of the season. By the end, when we get to Alabama, I suspect the offense will gel into the machine it is capable of being. And the defense, there's no worry there. I know, they have a 1 quarter let down. Take that away and they've allowed 3 touchdowns for the season. As I mentioned earlier, let's let Bammy carry that AP albatross awhile. Maybe we'll loosen up a little more and have the big finish to the season we've come to expect. Steve is right. The big blowouts are fan generated expectations. Yes, a win is a win. Let's enjoy the ride. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:31 -0700 (PDT) To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we just win out, we'll get to decide the BCS semi-final on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the as good of a team as we thought part means as good as those hyper inflated best team ever expectations. - just win because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive. Maybe he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up? While he's the OC, our plays are scripted called, and reviewed by committee and Meyer has the final say. Not saying the old OL coach doesn't like to give his hosses the opportunity to play smashmouth, but I think if anyone is reigning in the playcalling, it's probably Meyer. look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure thats the case at all... i think everyone of us would accept a win... but I do think this mentality of just go in and get out with a win may be the wrong mindset. I think it also shows that Meyer doesnt have that much confidence in this team or someone that is keeping them from being a dominant figure. Last year we were very good at not turing the ball over and also very good at taking it away. That gave our offense a lot of short fields (and in many cases defensive scores) that allowed our naturally conservative coaches to loosen up a bit. This year, so far at least, we are minus in the turnover column, and therefore are looking at longer fields
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press]
I think all you need is 6 wins against division 1 teams.Pretty sad that 6-6 teams can go to a bowl game - but I think that is the reality. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is abetter team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press]From: "Jay Cicone" jay.cic...@raymondjames.comDate: Wed, October 21, 2009 1:37 pmTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com They will be lucky to go 6-6. Will that get them in a bowl? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.comSent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:33 PMTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comSubject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] I was counting on the Tenn - Georgia game being another moral victory and Georgia blew that. I don't want Tenn to be bowl eligible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press]
Considering how well VAWL fans travel... they would easily get a bowl if they were 6-6 On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: I think all you need is 6 wins against division 1 teams. Pretty sad that 6-6 teams can go to a bowl game - but I think that is the reality. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Jay Cicone jay.cic...@raymondjames.com Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 1:37 pm To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com *They will be lucky to go 6-6. Will that get them in a bowl?* * * *From:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.comgatortalk@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *ke...@baldwinnc.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:33 PM *To:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] I was counting on the Tenn - Georgia game being another moral victory and Georgia blew that. I don't want Tenn to be bowl eligible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
I don't play the "coulda, woulda, shoulda" game. For example, Arkansas is going around now and saying - if that personal foul call had not been made - Arkansas would have won the game. From: "Ken Kirkley" k...@kirkley.net Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:25:40 -0500 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: "Just win" If Tebow doesn't fumble on the 2 against UT, we are up 31-6 and win going away. If Cooper doesn't drop a TD bomb last week and we don't fumble twice and miss a field goal, we win going away. We have to force teams to throw to force turnovers and right now they are staying close (or leading) by playing ball control. Stop making mistakes and start opening up the offense a bit and everyone will start talking about how we have finally gotten into our rhythm. KenK MNGator From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.comSent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:57 AMTo: Gator TalkSubject: [gatortalk] Re: "Just win" We're really playing pretty much like we have every season since Meyer has been at UF. Although we may be a bit more conservative than usual we're doing what we do in the beginning of the season. By the end, when we get to Alabama, I suspect the offense will gel into the machine it is capable of being. And the defense, there's no worry there. I know, they have a 1 quarter let down. Take that away and they've allowed 3 touchdowns for the season. As I mentioned earlier, let's let Bammy carry that AP albatross awhile. Maybe we'll loosen up a little more and have the big finish to the season we've come to expect. Steve is right. The big blowouts are fan generated expectations. Yes, a win is a win. Let's enjoy the ride. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:31 -0700 (PDT) To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: "Just win" --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we "just win" out, we'll get to decide the "BCS semi-final" on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - "just win" because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the "as good of a team as we thought" part means as good as those hyper inflated "best team ever" expectations. - "just win" because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive. Maybe he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up? While he's the OC, our plays are scripted called, and reviewed by committee and Meyer has the final say. Not saying the old OL coach doesn't like to give his hosses the opportunity to play smashmouth, but I think if anyone is reigning in the playcalling, it's probably Meyer. look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure thats the case at all... i think everyone of us would accept a win... but I do think this mentality of "just go in and get out with a win" may be the wrong mindset. I think it also shows that Meyer doesnt have that much confidence in this team or someone that is keeping them from being a dominant figure. Last year we were very good at not turing the ball over and also very good at taking it away. That gave our offense a lot of short fields (and in many cases defensive scores) that allowed our naturally conservative coaches to loosen up a bit. This year, so far at least, we are minus in the turnover column, and therefore are
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better teamthan Florida [A.P. / Associated Press]
LMAO. Or - perhaps a more likely scenario - his fingers are too big for the teeny tiny keyboard on his iPhone. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better teamthan Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] Bill...you're either having a stroke or need to get off the sauce. I agree, I think. Kiffin and UT sucketh. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. -- From: Bill Hood mrgator...@tampabay.rr.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:09:54 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better teamthan Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] He's a punk and respect I have for tenn and the simokey faithful os waining...if my vol fans continue to gove me crap...I'm spraypainting their kids blue and orange and seeing in their gas tank...kiffin os a gutless punk...he's doing his little verbal jab to excire the fans...but he's digging a hole...one day he can lay in it...like uga is... Go Gators !!! Bill -- From: Badrish Davanagere dbadr...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:50:17 -0400 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] Kiffin is ready for another moral victory...but this one, in his opinion is going to bring a bit more morale than the UF game :-))) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:09 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: Steve Spurrier and Bourbon whiskey are the only good things - I know of - to come out of Tenn. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.net Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:58 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Keith, this is Mr. Jack Daniels. Mr. Jack Daniels, this is Keith. Nice to meet you. ;_) -- From:ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com To:gatortalk googlegroups Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent:Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:50:30 AM Subject:[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] We let one slip by against Florida, but we've put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity, guard Vladimir Richard said. If we would have just corrected a few things, we'd have won the game. So now we're like, 'Let's not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing. So what exactly is in that Tenn kool-aid? Original Message Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:45 am To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida Doug Finger/Staff photographer Buy photo Vols coach Lane Kiffin said Alabama is a more complete team than Florida. The Associated Press Published: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. Last Modified: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin says the AP Top 25 has it right — Alabama, not Florida, is the No. 1 team in the nation. He’s practically an expert. By vaulting over the Gators into the top spot in The Associated Press poll, the Crimson Tide set up the Vols’ second game against the No. 1 team in the nation this season. “I think one poll got it right,” Kiffin said. “If you watch football and pay attention, I don’t think there’s any doubt who the No. 1 team is. Alabama has a great team — very well-coached, extremely talented, great special teams, great on offense, great on defense.” The Gators are ranked second in the AP Top 25 but first in the USA Today coaches’ poll and Bowl Championship Series standings. Kiffin said it’s hard to draw many comparisons between the two teams besides talent. Alabama favors size, Florida relies on speed. He said the Crimson Tide (7-0, 4-0 Southeastern Conference) is a more complete team and says the teams’ games against Arkansas reveals Alabama’s strength. The Tide beat the Razorbacks 35-7 on Sept. 26 and the Gators narrowly beat Arkansas 23-20 on Saturday. “While they’re both great teams, one team kind of beats you in all three phases: Alabama,” Kiffin said. “The other team will beat you at
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
I don't believe they have, and we keep begging for a defensive score every game. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Woody To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:27 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win Has the D had a TD this year? I would be surprised if they didnt... but I dont recall one. Woody On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net wrote: If Tebow doesn't fumble on the 2 against UT, we are up 31-6 and win going away. If Cooper doesn't drop a TD bomb last week and we don't fumble twice and miss a field goal, we win going away. We have to force teams to throw to force turnovers and right now they are staying close (or leading) by playing ball control. Stop making mistakes and start opening up the offense a bit and everyone will start talking about how we have finally gotten into our rhythm. Ken K MNGator From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:57 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win We're really playing pretty much like we have every season since Meyer has been at UF. Although we may be a bit more conservative than usual we're doing what we do in the beginning of the season. By the end, when we get to Alabama, I suspect the offense will gel into the machine it is capable of being. And the defense, there's no worry there. I know, they have a 1 quarter let down. Take that away and they've allowed 3 touchdowns for the season. As I mentioned earlier, let's let Bammy carry that AP albatross awhile. Maybe we'll loosen up a little more and have the big finish to the season we've come to expect. Steve is right. The big blowouts are fan generated expectations. Yes, a win is a win. Let's enjoy the ride. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:31 -0700 (PDT) To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we just win out, we'll get to decide the BCS semi-final on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the as good of a team as we thought part means as good as those hyper inflated best team ever expectations. - just win because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive. Maybe he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up? While he's the OC, our plays are scripted called, and reviewed by committee and Meyer has the final say. Not saying the old OL coach doesn't like to give his hosses the opportunity to play smashmouth, but I think if anyone is reigning in the playcalling, it's probably Meyer. look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure thats the case at all... i think everyone of us would accept a win... but I do think this mentality of just go in and get out
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better teamthan Florida [A.P. / Associated Press]
He gets a little excited while nutting up. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:59 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better teamthan Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] LMAO. Or - perhaps a more likely scenario - his fingers are too big for the teeny tiny keyboard on his iPhone. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill mailto:lpolh...@bellsouth.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better teamthan Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] Bill...you're either having a stroke or need to get off the sauce. I agree, I think. Kiffin and UT sucketh. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Bill Hood mrgator...@tampabay.rr.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:09:54 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better teamthan Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] He's a punk and respect I have for tenn and the simokey faithful os waining...if my vol fans continue to gove me crap...I'm spraypainting their kids blue and orange and seeing in their gas tank...kiffin os a gutless punk...he's doing his little verbal jab to excire the fans...but he's digging a hole...one day he can lay in it...like uga is... Go Gators !!! Bill From: Badrish Davanagere dbadr...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:50:17 -0400 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] Kiffin is ready for another moral victory...but this one, in his opinion is going to bring a bit more morale than the UF game :-))) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:09 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: Steve Spurrier and Bourbon whiskey are the only good things - I know of - to come out of Tenn. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.net Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:58 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Keith, this is Mr. Jack Daniels. Mr. Jack Daniels, this is Keith.Nice to meet you. ;_) From:ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com To:gatortalk googlegroups Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent:Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:50:30 AM Subject:[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] We let one slip by against Florida, but we've put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity, guard Vladimir Richard said. If we would have just corrected a few things, we'd have won the game. So now we're like, 'Let's not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing. So what exactly is in that Tenn kool-aid? Original Message Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:45 am To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida Doug Finger/Staff photographer Buy photo http://reprints.gainesville.com/cgi-bin/fotobroker.cgi?c=latest.htma=op_by_line=containsby_line=Fingerb=photo_dbs=t=show=3-4 Vols coach Lane Kiffin said Alabama is a more complete team than Florida. The Associated Press Published: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. Last Modified: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin says the AP Top 25 has it right — Alabama, not Florida, is the No. 1 team in the nation. He’s practically an expert. By vaulting over the Gators
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
On Oct 21, 2009, at 1:52 PM, ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: I don't play the coulda, woulda, shoulda game. For example, Arkansas is going around now and saying - if that personal foul call had not been made - Arkansas would have won the game. Given that we were inside the 20, the net effect was about 9 yards; not the typical 15. Given that it was 2nd down and we had been marching the ball down the field, it is a bit much to assume that we would not have scored on that drive. Did anyone see Demps's scoring run? Once he turned the corner, he would have scored from 30 yards out or 9 yards out. Unlike a pass interference all in the end zone on a third down incompletion, I have trouble seeing how the outcome of this game turned on that call. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
You shoulda seen me at the game Cee... Everytime our D was up... I would just repeat turnover turnover turnover turnover turnover. When the lady next to me didnt think I was having heart failure... she thought i was crazy Im sure. lol On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net wrote: I don't believe they have, and we keep begging for a defensive score every game. ;-) Cee - Original Message - *From:* Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com *To:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:27 PM *Subject:* [gatortalk] Re: Just win Has the D had a TD this year? I would be surprised if they didnt... but I dont recall one. Woody On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net wrote: If Tebow doesn't fumble on the 2 against UT, we are up 31-6 and win going away. If Cooper doesn't drop a TD bomb last week and we don't fumble twice and miss a field goal, we win going away. We have to force teams to throw to force turnovers and right now they are staying close (or leading) by playing ball control. Stop making mistakes and start opening up the offense a bit and everyone will start talking about how we have finally gotten into our rhythm. *Ken K* *MNGator* -- *From:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *oli...@bobparks.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:57 AM *To:* Gator Talk *Subject:* [gatortalk] Re: Just win We're really playing pretty much like we have every season since Meyer has been at UF. Although we may be a bit more conservative than usual we're doing what we do in the beginning of the season. By the end, when we get to Alabama, I suspect the offense will gel into the machine it is capable of being. And the defense, there's no worry there. I know, they have a 1 quarter let down. Take that away and they've allowed 3 touchdowns for the season. As I mentioned earlier, let's let Bammy carry that AP albatross awhile. Maybe we'll loosen up a little more and have the big finish to the season we've come to expect. Steve is right. The big blowouts are fan generated expectations. Yes, a win is a win. Let's enjoy the ride. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From: *Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:31 -0700 (PDT) *To: *gatortalk@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[gatortalk] Re: Just win --- On *Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com* wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we just win out, we'll get to decide the BCS semi-final on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the as good of a team as we thought part means as good as those hyper inflated best team ever expectations. - just win because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive. Maybe he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up? While he's the OC, our plays are scripted called, and reviewed by committee and Meyer has the final say. Not saying the old OL coach doesn't like to give his hosses the opportunity to play smashmouth, but I think if anyone is reigning in the playcalling, it's probably Meyer. look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure thats the case at all... i think everyone of
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
--- On Wed, 10/21/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: I don't play the coulda, woulda, shoulda game. Oh, but you do - we all do. Otherwise we'd only discuss what actually happened, and why. No more: I wish we coulda protected the ball better. I woulda played Moody in short yardage situations. Cooper shoulda caught that long pass. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: I thought you should see this story
I like it...a lot!!! On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Thomas Kelly tke...@scientiaglobal.comwrote: Terps, Gamecocks will wear camo to honor vets http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_16012/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=oN4hEpCs Sent from my iPhone --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better teamthan Florida [A.P. / Associated Press]
You're such a good mom; and, I'm such a good dad. :) A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:58:35 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better teamthan Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] LMAO. Or - perhaps a more likely scenario - his fingers are too big for the teeny tiny keyboard on his iPhone. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better teamthan Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] Bill...you're either having a stroke or need to get off the sauce. I agree, I think. Kiffin and UT sucketh. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Bill Hood mrgator...@tampabay.rr.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:09:54 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better teamthan Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] He's a punk and respect I have for tenn and the simokey faithful os waining...if my vol fans continue to gove me crap...I'm spraypainting their kids blue and orange and seeing in their gas tank...kiffin os a gutless punk...he's doing his little verbal jab to excire the fans...but he's digging a hole...one day he can lay in it...like uga is... Go Gators !!! Bill From: Badrish Davanagere dbadr...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:50:17 -0400 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] Kiffin is ready for another moral victory...but this one, in his opinion is going to bring a bit more morale than the UF game :-))) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:09 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: Steve Spurrier and Bourbon whiskey are the only good things - I know of - to come out of Tenn. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.net Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:58 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Keith, this is Mr. Jack Daniels. Mr. Jack Daniels, this is Keith. Nice to meet you. ;_) From:ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com To:gatortalk googlegroups Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent:Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:50:30 AM Subject:[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] We let one slip by against Florida, but we've put that behind us now, because we have another opportunity, guard Vladimir Richard said. If we would have just corrected a few things, we'd have won the game. So now we're like, 'Let's not come in Sunday ... and say the same thing. So what exactly is in that Tenn kool-aid? Original Message Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida [A.P. / Associated Press] From: Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com Date: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:45 am To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Kiffin says Bama is a better team than Florida Doug Finger/Staff photographer Buy photo Vols coach Lane Kiffin said Alabama is a more complete team than Florida. The Associated Press Published: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. Last Modified: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin says the AP Top 25 has it right — Alabama, not Florida, is the No. 1 team in the nation. He’s practically an expert. By vaulting over the Gators into the top spot in The Associated Press poll, the Crimson Tide set up the Vols’ second game against the No. 1 team in the nation this season. “I think one poll got it right,” Kiffin said. “If you watch football and pay attention, I don’t think there’s any doubt who the No. 1 team is. Alabama has a great team — very well-coached, extremely talented, great special teams, great on offense, great on defense.” The Gators are ranked second in the AP Top 25 but first in the USA Today coaches’ poll and Bowl Championship Series standings. Kiffin said it’s hard to draw many comparisons between the two teams besides talent. Alabama favors size, Florida relies on speed. He said the Crimson Tide (7-0, 4-0 Southeastern Conference) is a more complete team and says the teams’ games against Arkansas reveals Alabama’s strength. The Tide beat the Razorbacks 35-7 on Sept. 26 and the Gators narrowly beat Arkansas 23-20 on Saturday. “While they’re both great teams, one team kind of beats you in all three phases: Alabama,” Kiffin said. “The other team will beat you at times but then a lot of times
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
I agree - we all do. BUt we should not Kind of like- don't look at your neighbor's wife, no alcohol shall pass these lips, I'll never get drunk enough to date some women that goes to FSU, ... Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: "Just win"From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.comDate: Wed, October 21, 2009 2:18 pmTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com --- On Wed, 10/21/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: I don't play the "coulda, woulda, shoulda" game. Oh, but you do - we all do.Otherwise we'd only discuss what actually happened, and why.No more:"I wish we coulda protected the ball better.""I woulda played Moody in short yardage situations.""Cooper shoulda caught that long pass." --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
I shoulda been the coach. I woulda put Moody in more. Then we coulda lost. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:18:46 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win --- On Wed, 10/21/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: I don't play the coulda, woulda, shoulda game. Oh, but you do - we all do. Otherwise we'd only discuss what actually happened, and why. No more: I wish we coulda protected the ball better. I woulda played Moody in short yardage situations. Cooper shoulda caught that long pass. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: Robbie's Playbook --- Theyare what they are
Dawg-game is scary too...for me, that is!!! On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote: Oops, I forgot. That's another toughie. I predict a difficult victory there too. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From: * Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net *Date: *Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:12:47 -0500 *To: *gatortalk@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[gatortalk] Re: FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: Robbie's Playbook --- They are what they are Better not forget the Spurcocks... *Ken K* *MNGator* -- *From:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Oliver Barry *Sent:* Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:58 AM *To:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: Robbie's Playbook --- They are what they are Yes, they are what they are. So, this year we’re putting up better numbers against better teams. We’re also undefeated at this point. The 2008 team, as we all remember, was not at this point of the season. They had one bad game and still won. I think this team has the potential to do better than last year’s team, and the ’06 team and the ’08 team and even the ’96 team. They can still go undefeated through the regular season. They can still win the bowl game. If they do, they will have to be recognized as the best team in Gator history. That said, if you think Arkansas was a trap game, you’re going to see a bigger trap game in StarkVegas this Saturday. MSU has improved each week since the season began and… we’re playing there! I think we’ll win, but it’s going to be another difficult SEC game. I haven’t looked at the Pick’em yet (dumb game) but I’ll bet we’re favored by a lot less than 24 this week. So, we get by them and we’ve got the leg humpers, FIU, Vandy and the semis left. I see the potential to go into the SECCG looking pretty good. The WRs have to quit dropping those long bombs eventually. They’ll get better and that should open up the running game even more. I’m looking forward to a great rest-of-the-season. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 October 19th, 2009 04:29pm *They are what they arehttp://andreu.blogs.gatorsports.com/10239/they-are-what-they-are/ * by Robbie Andreu http://andreu.blogs.gatorsports.com/author/andreu/ (Gainesville SUN) At about the same time last season, a loss to Ole Miss seemed to unite the Gators and send them speeding off in the right direction after some early-season struggles. Will a near-loss to Arkansas on Saturday have a similar effect? Will the Gators start opening things up and turning things on like they did during their national championship run a year ago? It’s possible. But probably not likely. That’s not to say the Gators won’t run the table and reach the national title game. What I’m saying is don’t expect this UF team to become the offensive juggernaut that last year’s team did after the Ole Miss loss. Six games into the season, it’s obvious the Gators are what they are. They’re a very good defensive team that can shut down opponents when they don’t have breakdowns and mental lapses like a week ago. They’re a struggling offensive team that doesn’t have the playmakers (especially in the passing game) they had a year ago to roll up all kinds of points. Somehow the Gators won a game they probably should have lost Saturday. Like Tim Tebow said Monday, it took a lot of heart and character to somehow earn a victory with those four lost fumbles and six sacks. Maybe the near-loss will take off some of the pressure and UF will start making some of those plays they’ve been just missing on offensive. Maybe that will lead to more relaxing games and a wider margin of victory. But the thinking here is that was just the first of what could be several down-to-the-wire games for UF the rest of the way. The Gators know they can win those games, just like they did Saturday. To win the national championship, the Gators probably will have to do it the way they did in 2006, when they managed games so well offensively and found a way to win each week. Buckle your seatbelts, because it could be a thrilling (and scary) ride the rest of the way. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
Hmmm... I'm surprised we weren't able to make that happen with our simultaneous pleas from the stands, Woody. My mantra went more like get the ball, get the ball, get the ball. Cee - Original Message - From: Woody To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win You shoulda seen me at the game Cee... Everytime our D was up... I would just repeat turnover turnover turnover turnover turnover. When the lady next to me didnt think I was having heart failure... she thought i was crazy Im sure. lol On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net wrote: I don't believe they have, and we keep begging for a defensive score every game. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Woody To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:27 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win Has the D had a TD this year? I would be surprised if they didnt... but I dont recall one. Woody On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net wrote: If Tebow doesn't fumble on the 2 against UT, we are up 31-6 and win going away. If Cooper doesn't drop a TD bomb last week and we don't fumble twice and miss a field goal, we win going away. We have to force teams to throw to force turnovers and right now they are staying close (or leading) by playing ball control. Stop making mistakes and start opening up the offense a bit and everyone will start talking about how we have finally gotten into our rhythm. Ken K MNGator From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:57 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win We're really playing pretty much like we have every season since Meyer has been at UF. Although we may be a bit more conservative than usual we're doing what we do in the beginning of the season. By the end, when we get to Alabama, I suspect the offense will gel into the machine it is capable of being. And the defense, there's no worry there. I know, they have a 1 quarter let down. Take that away and they've allowed 3 touchdowns for the season. As I mentioned earlier, let's let Bammy carry that AP albatross awhile. Maybe we'll loosen up a little more and have the big finish to the season we've come to expect. Steve is right. The big blowouts are fan generated expectations. Yes, a win is a win. Let's enjoy the ride. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:31 -0700 (PDT) To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we just win out, we'll get to decide the BCS semi-final on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the as good of a team as we thought part means as good as those hyper inflated best team
[gatortalk] Re: I thought you should see this story
I think those are going to be some ugly uniforms. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:17 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] I thought you should see this story Terps, Gamecocks will wear camo to honor vets http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_16012/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=oN4hEpCs Sent from my iPhone --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
I agree, we shouldn't play the would have could have game. It is our opponents (fans) who are playing that to derive a Vol* victory out of their games with the Gators. I am simply pointing out that the games were close due to our mistakes, not theirs. And we still won. If we can clean up our game, we will be rolling. There are many theories (see GatorCountry for our many coaches plans...) as to how to solve our woes, but it essentially comes down to holding on to the football on offense and making tackles on defense. Ken K MNGator * Main Entry: vol Pronunciation: \ˌvä-l Function: noun Etymology: obsolete French Date: circa 1600 1 : a person who derives a loss as a win : one who has but few teeth: one who reveres as ones leader a complete buffoon : one who has a sense of entitlement without bearing 2 : a complete hillbilly _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:52 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win I don't play the coulda, woulda, shoulda game. For example, Arkansas is going around now and saying - if that personal foul call had not been made - Arkansas would have won the game. From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:25:40 -0500 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win If Tebow doesn't fumble on the 2 against UT, we are up 31-6 and win going away. If Cooper doesn't drop a TD bomb last week and we don't fumble twice and miss a field goal, we win going away. We have to force teams to throw to force turnovers and right now they are staying close (or leading) by playing ball control. Stop making mistakes and start opening up the offense a bit and everyone will start talking about how we have finally gotten into our rhythm. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:57 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win We're really playing pretty much like we have every season since Meyer has been at UF. Although we may be a bit more conservative than usual we're doing what we do in the beginning of the season. By the end, when we get to Alabama, I suspect the offense will gel into the machine it is capable of being. And the defense, there's no worry there. I know, they have a 1 quarter let down. Take that away and they've allowed 3 touchdowns for the season. As I mentioned earlier, let's let Bammy carry that AP albatross awhile. Maybe we'll loosen up a little more and have the big finish to the season we've come to expect. Steve is right. The big blowouts are fan generated expectations. Yes, a win is a win. Let's enjoy the ride. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:31 -0700 (PDT) To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we just win out, we'll get to decide the BCS semi-final on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the as good of a team as we thought part means as good as those hyper inflated best team ever expectations. - just win because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is going through a learning curve, hence why
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
Steve, I will go out on a limb and say that from what I have seen so far the biggest problem with our offense is Tim Tebow. Granted he is also the best thing about our offense, but I really don't think he has played as well in the first half of the season as he did last year. He has two fumbles because he is holding the ball down by his hip, his decision making, particularly on passing plays is shaky at best, he seems to look for Cooper or Hernandez and then run, he still holds on to the ball way to long. I just think TT is putting too much on himself to carry the team and not relying on the talent around him to help him out. I just think Meyer needs to have a little talk with TT and explain that he doesn't have to carry the offense on his back. JAFO Randy Platt aka PCGator aka The Armchair Quarterback aka The Other Randy Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest! From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:29 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we just win out, we'll get to decide the BCS semi-final on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the as good of a team as we thought part means as good as those hyper inflated best team ever expectations. - just win because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive. Maybe he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up? While he's the OC, our plays are scripted called, and reviewed by committee and Meyer has the final say. Not saying the old OL coach doesn't like to give his hosses the opportunity to play smashmouth, but I think if anyone is reigning in the playcalling, it's probably Meyer. look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure thats the case at all... i think everyone of us would accept a win... but I do think this mentality of just go in and get out with a win may be the wrong mindset. I think it also shows that Meyer doesnt have that much confidence in this team or someone that is keeping them from being a dominant figure. Last year we were very good at not turing the ball over and also very good at taking it away. That gave our offense a lot of short fields (and in many cases defensive scores) that allowed our naturally conservative coaches to loosen up a bit. This year, so far at least, we are minus in the turnover column, and therefore are looking at longer fields in tighter games, so the conservative nature shines through. If we'll start getting some timely turnovers, or more importantly, stop giving them away I think you'll feel a lot better about the scoreboard. Again.. maybe im thinking too far into it all A long drive after a tight game will do that! ... but right now.. Miss St game is scaring the hell outta me. Until proven otherwise, the only game on our schedule that I don't think we can possibly lose is FIU. By the same token, despite all of our current watrs, we're capable of, and in fact, SHOULD be able to win all of them!/table --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National
[gatortalk] Re: Just win
Im not sure Meyer would tell him that. His attitude is.. let Tebow be Tebow... but I see what you are saying and I mostly agree... except for the fact... he has tried to spread the ball around...and they let him down... I almost wonder if Tebow is the leader of this team in more ways than one. Woody On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Randy Platt pcga...@tampabay.rr.comwrote: Steve, I will go out on a limb and say that from what I have seen so far the biggest problem with our offense is Tim Tebow. Granted he is also the best thing about our offense, but I really don't think he has played as well in the first half of the season as he did last year. He has two fumbles because he is holding the ball down by his hip, his decision making, particularly on passing plays is shaky at best, he seems to look for Cooper or Hernandez and then run, he still holds on to the ball way to long. I just think TT is putting too much on himself to carry the team and not relying on the talent around him to help him out. I just think Meyer needs to have a little talk with TT and explain that he doesn't have to carry the offense on his back. JAFO Randy Platt aka PCGator aka The Armchair Quarterback aka The Other Randy Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest! From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:29 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we just win out, we'll get to decide the BCS semi-final on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the as good of a team as we thought part means as good as those hyper inflated best team ever expectations. - just win because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive. Maybe he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up? While he's the OC, our plays are scripted called, and reviewed by committee and Meyer has the final say. Not saying the old OL coach doesn't like to give his hosses the opportunity to play smashmouth, but I think if anyone is reigning in the playcalling, it's probably Meyer. look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure thats the case at all... i think everyone of us would accept a win... but I do think this mentality of just go in and get out with a win may be the wrong mindset. I think it also shows that Meyer doesnt have that much confidence in this team or someone that is keeping them from being a dominant figure. Last year we were very good at not turing the ball over and also very good at taking it away. That gave our offense a lot of short fields (and in many cases defensive scores) that allowed our naturally conservative coaches to loosen up a bit. This year, so far at least, we are minus in the turnover column, and therefore are looking at longer fields in tighter games, so the conservative nature shines through. If we'll start getting some timely turnovers, or more importantly, stop giving them away I think you'll feel a lot better about the scoreboard. Again.. maybe im thinking too far into it all A long drive after a tight game will do that! ... but right now.. Miss St game is scaring the
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Yeah, but... if they never get an opportunity to try, try again, they'll never get any better at NOT letting him down. It's a bit of a vicious cycle, ya know? Cee - Original Message - From: Woody To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:52 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win Im not sure Meyer would tell him that. His attitude is.. let Tebow be Tebow... but I see what you are saying and I mostly agree... except for the fact... he has tried to spread the ball around...and they let him down... I almost wonder if Tebow is the leader of this team in more ways than one. Woody On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Randy Platt pcga...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Steve, I will go out on a limb and say that from what I have seen so far the biggest problem with our offense is Tim Tebow. Granted he is also the best thing about our offense, but I really don't think he has played as well in the first half of the season as he did last year. He has two fumbles because he is holding the ball down by his hip, his decision making, particularly on passing plays is shaky at best, he seems to look for Cooper or Hernandez and then run, he still holds on to the ball way to long. I just think TT is putting too much on himself to carry the team and not relying on the talent around him to help him out. I just think Meyer needs to have a little talk with TT and explain that he doesn't have to carry the offense on his back. JAFO Randy Platt aka PCGator aka The Armchair Quarterback aka The Other Randy Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest! From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:29 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we just win out, we'll get to decide the BCS semi-final on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the as good of a team as we thought part means as good as those hyper inflated best team ever expectations. - just win because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive. Maybe he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up? While he's the OC, our plays are scripted called, and reviewed by committee and Meyer has the final say. Not saying the old OL coach doesn't like to give his hosses the opportunity to play smashmouth, but I think if anyone is reigning in the playcalling, it's probably Meyer. look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure thats the case at all... i think everyone of us would accept a win... but I do think this mentality of just go in and get out with a win may be the wrong mindset. I think it also shows that Meyer doesnt have that much confidence in this team or someone that is keeping them from being a dominant figure. Last year we were very good at not turing the ball over and also very good at taking it away. That gave our offense a lot of short fields (and in many cases
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i want a SAFETY!! -JNene- Original Message - From: Cecilia To:gatortalk@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent:Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:59:00 -0400 Subject:[gatortalk] Re: Just win I don't believe they have, and we keep begging for a defensive score every game. ;-) Cee -- Show Quoted Text -- [1] - ORIGINAL MESSAGE - FROM: Woody [2] TO: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [3] SENT: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:27 PM SUBJECT: [gatortalk] Re: Just win Has the D had a TD this year? I would be surprised if they didnt... but I dont recall one. Woody On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Ken Kirkley wrote: If Tebow doesn't fumble on the 2 against UT, we are up 31-6 and win going away. If Cooper doesn't drop a TD bomb last week and we don't fumble twice and miss a field goal, we win going away. We have to force teams to throw to force turnovers and right now they are staying close (or leading) by playing ball control.Stop making mistakes and start opening up the offense a bit and everyone will start talking about how we have finally gotten into our rhythm. _Ken K_ _MNGator_ - FROM: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [5] [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [6]] ON BEHALF OF oli...@bobparks.com [7] SENT: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:57 AM TO: Gator Talk SUBJECT: [gatortalk] Re: Just win We're really playing pretty much like we have every season since Meyer has been at UF. Although we may be a bit more conservative than usual we're doing what we do in the beginning of the season. By the end, when we get to Alabama, I suspect the offense will gel into the machine it is capable of being. And the defense, there's no worry there. I know, they have a 1 quarter let down. Take that away and they've allowed 3 touchdowns for the season. As I mentioned earlier, let's let Bammy carry that AP albatross awhile. Maybe we'll loosen up a little more and have the big finish to the season we've come to expect. Steve is right. The big blowouts are fan generated expectations. Yes, a win is a win. Let's enjoy the ride. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry - FROM: Steve McKibben DATE: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:31 -0700 (PDT) TO: SUBJECT: [gatortalk] Re: Just win --- On WED, 10/21/09, WOODY __ wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we just win out, we'll get to decide the BCS semi-final on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the as good of a team as we thought part means as good as those hyper inflated best team ever expectations.- just win because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive. Maybe he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up? While he's the OC, our plays are scripted called, and reviewed by committee and Meyer has the final say. Not saying the old OL coach doesn't like to give his hosses the opportunity to play smashmouth, but I think if anyone is reigning in the playcalling, it's probably Meyer. look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure thats the case at all... i think everyone of us would accept a win... but I do think this mentality of just go in and get out with a win may be the wrong mindset. I think it also shows that Meyer doesnt have that much confidence in this team or someone that is keeping them from being a dominant figure. Last year we were
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A safety would be nice. I'd like to see more punt blocks. The special teams weren't terrible against Arkansas, but they weren't good either. And, where was Brandon James on the run backs? Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of JNene Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:44 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Just win i want a SAFETY!! -JNene - Original Message - From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:59:00 -0400 Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win I don't believe they have, and we keep begging for a defensive score every game. ;-) Cee -- Show Quoted Text -- - Original Message - From: Woody mailto:gatorrr...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:27 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win Has the D had a TD this year? I would be surprised if they didnt... but I dont recall one. Woody On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net wrote: If Tebow doesn't fumble on the 2 against UT, we are up 31-6 and win going away. If Cooper doesn't drop a TD bomb last week and we don't fumble twice and miss a field goal, we win going away. We have to force teams to throw to force turnovers and right now they are staying close (or leading) by playing ball control. Stop making mistakes and start opening up the offense a bit and everyone will start talking about how we have finally gotten into our rhythm. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:57 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win We're really playing pretty much like we have every season since Meyer has been at UF. Although we may be a bit more conservative than usual we're doing what we do in the beginning of the season. By the end, when we get to Alabama, I suspect the offense will gel into the machine it is capable of being. And the defense, there's no worry there. I know, they have a 1 quarter let down. Take that away and they've allowed 3 touchdowns for the season. As I mentioned earlier, let's let Bammy carry that AP albatross awhile. Maybe we'll loosen up a little more and have the big finish to the season we've come to expect. Steve is right. The big blowouts are fan generated expectations. Yes, a win is a win. Let's enjoy the ride. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:31 -0700 (PDT) To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we just win out, we'll get to decide the BCS semi-final on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the as good of a team as we thought part means as good as those hyper inflated best team ever expectations. - just win because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive. Maybe he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up? While he's the OC, our plays are scripted called, and reviewed by
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I think that may be by design to put them in a position to control the clock/eat up time. I seriously believe that is a big part of their overall game plan. Woody On Oct 21, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Oliver Barry oli...@bobparks.com wrote: A safety would be nice. I’d like to see more punt blocks. The spec ial teams weren’t terrible against Arkansas, but they weren’t good either. And, where was Brandon James on the run backs? Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of JNene Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:44 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Just win i want a SAFETY!! -JNene - Original Message - From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:59:00 -0400 Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win I don't believe they have, and we keep begging for a defensive score every game. ;-) Cee -- Show Quoted Text -- - Original Message - From: Woody To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:27 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win Has the D had a TD this year? I would be surprised if they didnt... but I dont recall one. Woody On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net wrote: If Tebow doesn't fumble on the 2 against UT, we are up 31-6 and win going away. If Cooper doesn't drop a TD bomb last week and we don't fumble twice and miss a field goal, we win going away. We have to force teams to throw to force turnovers and right now they are staying close (or leading) by playing ball control. Stop making mistakes and start opening up the offense a bit and everyone will start talking about how we have finally gotten into our rhythm. Ken K MNGator From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:57 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win We're really playing pretty much like we have every season since Meyer has been at UF. Although we may be a bit more conservative than usual we're doing what we do in the beginning of the season. By the end, when we get to Alabama, I suspect the offense will gel into the machine it is capable of being. And the defense, there's no worry there. I know, they have a 1 quarter let down. Take that away and they've allowed 3 touchdowns for the season. As I mentioned earlier, let's let Bammy carry that AP albatross awhile. Maybe we'll loosen up a little more and have the big finish to the season we've come to expect. Steve is right. The big blowouts are fan generated expectations. Yes, a win is a win. Let's enjoy the ride. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:31 -0700 (PDT) To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we just win out, we'll get to decide the BCS semi-final on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the as good of a team as we thought part means as good as those hyper inflated best team ever expectations. - just win
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Sometimes they go for you and sometimes they go against you. It’s like blaming a kicker for missing the last minute field goal to lose a game. The field goal may be the kicker’s fault, but the game isn’t. If the entire team didn’t put you in a position for the game to hinge on a single moment, then it wouldn’t matter. It’s the same with a penalty like this. There were 60 minutes of football and neither team pulled away from the other and established a clear ‘right’ to the win. Such a call could have gone either way and neither team would have deserved to complain about it. If this player had caught that pass, or that player hadn’t tripped or another player had blocked better… There’s no end to the ‘coulda, woulda, shoulda’ game and there’s no point playing it. We got a break there – I totally didn’t see a foul – and I have no idea if it changed the outcome of the game. So I’ll take the win, feel lucky to have gotten it, and move on to the next game. Hog fans need to do the same (except for the feeling lucky part). Rob From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:52 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win I don't play the coulda, woulda, shoulda game. For example, Arkansas is going around now and saying - if that personal foul call had not been made - Arkansas would have won the game. From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:25:40 -0500 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win If Tebow doesn't fumble on the 2 against UT, we are up 31-6 and win going away. If Cooper doesn't drop a TD bomb last week and we don't fumble twice and miss a field goal, we win going away. We have to force teams to throw to force turnovers and right now they are staying close (or leading) by playing ball control. Stop making mistakes and start opening up the offense a bit and everyone will start talking about how we have finally gotten into our rhythm. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:57 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win We're really playing pretty much like we have every season since Meyer has been at UF. Although we may be a bit more conservative than usual we're doing what we do in the beginning of the season. By the end, when we get to Alabama, I suspect the offense will gel into the machine it is capable of being. And the defense, there's no worry there. I know, they have a 1 quarter let down. Take that away and they've allowed 3 touchdowns for the season. As I mentioned earlier, let's let Bammy carry that AP albatross awhile. Maybe we'll loosen up a little more and have the big finish to the season we've come to expect. Steve is right. The big blowouts are fan generated expectations. Yes, a win is a win. Let's enjoy the ride. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:31 -0700 (PDT) To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Just win --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the impression that that mentality may be setting us back? The fan base more than the team, IMO - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues? If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the participants in the title game), then, if we just win out, we'll get to decide the BCS semi-final on the field with them. To carry that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in. - these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his shoulders. I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we struggled on the ground against them for the most part. - just win because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true... And that could be true - especially if the as good of a team as
